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Speaker 1: You're trusted home for news, for entertainments, opinion and fighting.

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Speaker 1: Mike Hosking Breakfast with a Vida, Live the Age You

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Speaker 2: Blling and Welcome Today. Our relationship with China Front and

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Speaker 2: center of the Chinese Premier touches down the pms in

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Speaker 2: the studio on that, but also talk about protests and inquiries.

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Speaker 2: School attendance numbers look good until they don't and in

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Speaker 2: that of some of the trouble around too many statistics.

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Speaker 2: Chelsea Handler, Zimbra catch Up after eight, Catherine Field in

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Speaker 2: the middle of the EU vote fall out, and Rod

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Speaker 2: Little pops.

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Speaker 3: In from the UK Pasky.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the day, seven past six. What is most instructive,

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Speaker 2: if not unique, about these EU elections is that the

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Speaker 2: European Union is a collective of course countries and their mood.

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Speaker 2: They swing with the times, but the EU vote captured

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Speaker 2: twenty seven countries all at once. It's a massive snapshot,

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Speaker 2: and the snapshot of this round as big, big change

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Speaker 2: is coming as the continent moves very distinctly to the right.

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Speaker 2: A lot of the media call it the far right,

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Speaker 2: but that's the bit that makes it interesting. A lot

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Speaker 2: of it's driven by illegal immigration, of course, something it

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Speaker 2: as a small isolated country at the bottom of the world,

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Speaker 2: we don't really have, but it's close. Australia is grappling

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Speaker 2: with him and has done, and at fairly large political cost,

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Speaker 2: over many many years. If you go back in Australia,

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Speaker 2: they ride by boat, and John Howard many elections ago,

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Speaker 2: resurrected his entire career as well as his government's fortunes

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Speaker 2: by stopping the boats. And Europe some are ride by boat,

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Speaker 2: but a lot simply walking. Angler Merkel invited them in

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Speaker 2: several summers ago. You may remember one million of them.

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Speaker 2: It was the beginning of the end of her time

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Speaker 2: in charge. A legal immigration strikes fear in Britain. For

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Speaker 2: ashisnak knew how to actually stop the boats. He would

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Speaker 2: have because it's nail and as government's coffin in about

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Speaker 2: three weeks time. There are other factors, of course, like

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Speaker 2: the economy, but fear can be easily used to stoke

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Speaker 2: more fear, and so it has been replicated over and

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Speaker 2: over across the continent. But surely at some point when

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Speaker 2: the so called far right win and win well, they

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Speaker 2: become mainstream. Li Penn and France biggest vote thirty percent,

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Speaker 2: that's mainstream. Are you still far right or are you

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Speaker 2: simply popular? Maloney in Italy feared with no shortage of

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Speaker 2: far right headline and attached to a name, And yet

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Speaker 2: now dare we suggest popular terms like far right are

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Speaker 2: used with they disdain, and yet you dismiss increasingly large

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Speaker 2: groups of people in a democracy. The left are rarely

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Speaker 2: referred to as the far left or extreme left, Yet

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Speaker 2: the rules don't apply the other way.

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Speaker 4: Why not?

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Speaker 2: How much of that sort of dismissal do you think

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Speaker 2: played into the rise of the popularity of those who

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Speaker 2: now run the place.

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Speaker 3: News of the world in ninety seconds.

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Speaker 2: And they head to election central. The Belgian PM quit

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Speaker 2: so they need a new one. Of those are the

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Speaker 2: French thereafter the polls.

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Speaker 5: I think he's really cynical and he's playing a dangerous

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Speaker 5: game because I think he's risking to play out of

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Speaker 5: security and the stability of French democracy.

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Speaker 2: I think he spot on Catherine with more on that shortly.

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Speaker 2: In Britain, they're well down the track of their campaign

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Speaker 2: and the promises are getting silly as money is tossed

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Speaker 2: about the place. The Lib Dems have billions for the NHS.

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Speaker 6: I can give you many examples of libert Democrat fessors

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Speaker 6: where other parties didn't have those policies, but we change

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Speaker 6: them in the next parliament.

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Speaker 2: Rishie, he's been at the pub, not drinking his troubles away,

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Speaker 2: but trying to sound like he's got a plan.

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Speaker 7: I believe I've got the right plan for the country.

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Speaker 7: We're the only party willing to take bold action.

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Speaker 8: That's how we deliver It's the Key future and I'm

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Speaker 8: going to keep taking that message to as many people

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Speaker 8: as possible between now and polling day.

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Speaker 2: So the Key has got a plan too, with money.

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Speaker 2: This is a better plan, but of course we want

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Speaker 2: to complete on the government's plan, but actually do it

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Speaker 2: in a way that's planned and deliverable.

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Speaker 3: There's it's a good idea, but not deliverable.

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Speaker 2: So many plans other metaters and Britain. We are a

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Speaker 2: couple of twelve year old murderers.

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Speaker 9: When you look at the facts of this case and

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Speaker 9: see some of the decisions made by the suspects after

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Speaker 9: the offense, it does bring home to you the level

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Speaker 9: of immaturity that we're talking about.

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Speaker 2: And the Prince popped out to heavy word with the

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Speaker 8: I think the biggest thing I've known from coming and

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Speaker 8: seeing you guys over the years and every interesting I've

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Speaker 8: been into is the togetherness. And I get that you

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Speaker 8: know what characters are stilled in all of you over

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Speaker 8: the years. I really feel your unit.

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Speaker 2: Finally, it is the third time round for Sam book

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Speaker 2: at the Sicilia and their cheap home. So back in

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Speaker 2: twenty nineteen they made headlines when they sold homes for

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Speaker 2: a euro with a stipulation you had to renovate within

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Speaker 2: three years. He did the same thing in twenty twenty one,

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Speaker 2: but they doubled the price. You had to pay two

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Speaker 2: euros for a house. And now round three. Guess what

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Speaker 2: that's right, it'll start at three euros. Since all this began,

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Speaker 2: by the way, they've come from far and wide, all

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Speaker 2: over the world, a village of six thousand people and

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Speaker 2: they've seen an influx of more than forty two million

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Speaker 2: dollars into the local economy. So that is news of

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Speaker 2: the world in small villages in ninety seconds. Yeah, just quickly.

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Speaker 2: On the European results, it still washes through the greens

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Speaker 2: of the biggest losers or one of the biggest losers,

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Speaker 2: and there's great deal banks around climate change. They're calling

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Speaker 2: it the green lash. People are sick and tired of

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Speaker 2: the policies designed to tackle the climate crisis. Not that

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Speaker 2: broadly speaking of the climate crisis isn't the thing, but

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Speaker 2: it's the obsession that we've heard, the endless banging of

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Speaker 2: the drum and the headlines about it, and people are over.

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Speaker 2: So they're left landing Green's European Free Alliance. They will

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Speaker 2: end up with about fifty two seats. They did have

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Speaker 2: seventy one, and in that I would have thought is

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Speaker 2: a message twelve past.

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Speaker 3: Six costing breakfast.

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Speaker 2: And then we come to Germany. We're all of Schultz's

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Speaker 2: and serious years trouble because the AfD once again referred

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Speaker 2: but nevertheless, the AfD huge gains became the second strongest

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Speaker 2: Schultz's own party of SPD. So if Macron sees a

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Speaker 2: loss as a reason to trigger a snappole, if Belgium

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Speaker 2: Fifteen past six from JMI Wealth Andrew Kelleher, Good morning,

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Speaker 2: Very good morning, Mine, right crunch some numbers we're spending

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Speaker 2: or not not really.

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Speaker 10: Well, we are, but we're not keeping track with the

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Speaker 10: price increases.

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Speaker 11: So one of the data points we're keeping an eye

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Speaker 11: this week locally is the electronic car transaction data. Now

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Speaker 11: it's been very soft on an outright basis then in fact,

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Speaker 11: for inflation and population increase, the numbers are well, they're

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Speaker 11: actually awful, particularly if you're a retailer. That's due out

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Speaker 11: is looking at transactions on A and Z issued cards only.

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Speaker 11: But they are the biggest bank in New Zealand. So

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Speaker 11: it's a good read of what's going on. You get

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Speaker 11: very good granularity, Mike, very good detail. So they've seen

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Speaker 11: a two point three percent annual growth in spending. Critically,

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Speaker 11: though we all know that inflation has been increasing faster

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Speaker 11: than that, so inflation adjusted, their spending numbers are declining.

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Speaker 11: Now, the categories that have been soft that we've seen

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Speaker 11: So that's durables, discretionary spending, clothing retailers in those sections

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Speaker 11: I still think are in for a challenging time ahead.

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Speaker 11: Tourism spending is now a drag on spending growth. There's

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Speaker 11: one bright spot on that. It's called miscellaneous services. Now

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Speaker 11: I'm not completely sure what's in that category, but do

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Speaker 11: tells the strength is driven by finance services and we

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Speaker 11: so that's being driven by people borrowing to spend. Durables

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Speaker 11: That's all related to the housing market, so very much

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Speaker 11: a reflection of weaker residential property sector and just recently

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Speaker 11: this tourism and business goods and services.

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Speaker 10: They've fallen into negative territory.

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Speaker 11: You can see that weakness might You can see it

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Speaker 11: that everything was just starting.

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Speaker 10: To slow down.

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Speaker 11: Going back to sort of that housing related spending, some

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Speaker 11: categories here have really created my coming. Architect Engineering and

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Speaker 11: surveying down twenty one percent year on year.

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Speaker 10: That's a big number.

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Speaker 11: Roofing contract is down twenty percent, so significant pain in

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Speaker 11: on year. I'm picking that you're going to see quite

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Speaker 11: you know, so you're going to see some cafes and

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Speaker 11: ten percent, and I'm looking for positives in here making

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Speaker 11: All I can think of was that twenty twenty five,

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Speaker 11: as we get through into twenty five should be better.

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Speaker 2: It'll be better next year.

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Speaker 10: It'll be better next year.

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Speaker 2: I told on now the Fed this week, very big week.

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Speaker 2: We're going to be seeing the dot plots, aren't we.

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Speaker 11: We are, so not much in the way of local

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Speaker 11: data this week. I just said, we've got that Carddard.

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Speaker 11: You've got some migration numbers, selected price indexes later this week,

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Speaker 11: so things like food price index, but very important stuff

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Speaker 11: having in other jurisdictions. The big year, as you say,

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Speaker 11: is the Federal Open Market Committee will report this hot

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Speaker 10: This is the decision on the level of the Fed.

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Speaker 11: Funds rate US equivalent of the official cash rate so

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Speaker 11: far this year we've seen a significant recalibration of expectations

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Speaker 11: around how quickly the Fed will reduce that rate and

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Speaker 11: six cuts to the FED funds. Right now we're debating

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Speaker 11: get an update on the famous dot plots. This is

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Speaker 11: where the fo MC or the members actually dot you know,

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Speaker 11: put dots on the on the plot where they see

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Speaker 11: the FED funds right at the end of the year.

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Speaker 11: The attention is highlighted, of course by recent rate cuts

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Speaker 11: from Bank of Canada ECB. So the floodgates opening, I

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Speaker 11: think that probably will be. That's probably a little bit exciting.

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Speaker 11: Excitable also, Mike, in the last few weeks, US economic

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Speaker 11: dart has given us some support the soft landing scenario,

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Speaker 11: and there's an inflation number as well. This week's CPI

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Speaker 11: Thursday morning too, so SEAPI and FED market moving events

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Speaker 11: I'm not expecting to see I think radically out of

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Speaker 11: Japan up to the plate later this week as well.

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Speaker 2: Right, let's have some numbers.

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Speaker 10: The US markets are.

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Speaker 11: In positive territory, so the Dow Jones up around fifty

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Speaker 11: Then Nasdaq up thirteen points seventeen thousand, one hundred and

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Speaker 3: The Mic Hosking Breakfast.

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Speaker 7: You can tell people sneaking in through the airport the airport.

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Speaker 2: Meantime news is next. You're a news talk, said B.

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Speaker 1: The newsmakers and the personalities, the big names, talk to

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Speaker 2: Get it while it's going. Read a very interesting report yesterday.

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Speaker 2: The gold industry is struggling to actually sustained production. They

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Speaker 2: Gold Council. Mine production up only half of percent last year,

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Speaker 2: Right Macron, he's got a headachere of nightmare or probably

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Speaker 2: a bit about snap elections on. We'll go to Catherine

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Speaker 2: pretty budget, no shortage of noise about tax cuts, of course,

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Speaker 2: Now there's an idea, Henry CEO James Fuller willis, good morning,

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Speaker 2: Good morning. Questions I found very interesting and will work

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Speaker 14: So when we do this this survey quarterly, we as

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Speaker 2: And the reason I asked the question is because, of course,

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Speaker 14: Well, it's interesting. I don't think soul traders are looking

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Speaker 2: Does it get complicated? Seventy four percent support for a

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Speaker 14: Well, I think what's interesting is we've seen the government

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Speaker 14: So actually do it. Looking to do what they do

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Speaker 2: I'm glad you raise that because that's a lot of

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Speaker 14: Well it doesn't, it doesn't, I mean, id already stot

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Speaker 2: And you would argue they got the weirdwithal to do

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Speaker 14: Yeah, I think it's about recognizing soul traders and the

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Speaker 2: Very good, indeed, James, appreciate your time. James Fuller, who

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Speaker 2: It is nineteen away from seven fosking good and bad

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Speaker 2: news on the avocados for you. Bad news is the

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Speaker 2: three years that's dropped below fifty because the Australian's growing

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Speaker 2: a lot of their own. But we are back apparently

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Speaker 2: into Canada North America. So if the returns are good,

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Speaker 2: ultimately good for the country, but you might have to

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Speaker 2: pay a little bit more. Down at the Grengrosser eighteen

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Speaker 2: to two.

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Speaker 3: The Mike Costing breakfast quick question for you.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk more about it after seven o'clock. So we've

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Speaker 2: got the national MP for o Taki, North Wellington of course,

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Speaker 2: Tim costly some people getting exercised about this. He's another

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Speaker 2: one of these MP's expenses people. Right, So he claims

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Speaker 2: thirty six and a half thousand grand a year housing allowance,

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Speaker 2: but he lives in his own apartment despite living just

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Speaker 2: fifty eight k's from Parliament. Now it is fifty eight

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Speaker 2: k's from Parliament. Too close to Parliament, therefore you don't

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Speaker 2: need your own house. Therefore you don't need your expenses.

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Speaker 2: And that's before we get to Kim macinnaulting at the

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Speaker 2: other side of the Labor Party. He's claiming he's from Masterton.

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Speaker 2: He's claiming expenses for his place, which isn't his place.

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Speaker 2: The place he stays happens to be his wife's place.

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Speaker 2: So he's getting the allowance for staying at his wife's

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Speaker 2: place in Wellington. So this this is starting to exercise

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Speaker 2: the hand ringers again. So more shortly six forty.

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Speaker 15: Five International correspondence with ends in Eye Insurance, Peace of

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Speaker 15: Mind for New Zealand Business Right General of the World at.

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Speaker 2: The mind of teams in France, Captain feel very good

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Speaker 2: morning to you, Good morning mine. So the day after

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Speaker 2: do we have a hangover? As Macron going oh, my lord,

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Speaker 2: what did I do? Or are we full steam ahead here?

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Speaker 16: I'm not sure what the President of the Republic is thinking,

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Speaker 16: but I think the rest of France is thinking, what

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Speaker 16: a gamble?

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Speaker 17: What has he done? Yes, we spoke what just about

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Speaker 17: this time yesterday Mike, and no one could understand why.

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Speaker 7: He was doing it.

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Speaker 16: We're getting a clearer picture of why he decided to

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Speaker 16: do it. He felt as though he had been pushed

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Speaker 16: in for corner.

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Speaker 17: He doesn't like this.

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Speaker 16: He apparently been thinking about having an election, the parliamentary

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Speaker 16: elections in the autumn sort of September October period.

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Speaker 17: But decided at the end of the day. The country

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Speaker 17: is quite well off at the moment.

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Speaker 16: Everyone's feeling a bit up and try and catch the

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Speaker 16: opposition on the hop and get everyone out to vote.

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Speaker 16: You know, everyone's still wandering around thinking, well, is this

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Speaker 16: going to solve any of the problems. And we've just

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Speaker 16: had first projections in on how the parliament would work out,

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Speaker 16: and yes, okay.

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Speaker 17: This is the first poll.

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Speaker 16: But it's looking as though, yes, Mahine, the Pen's party

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Speaker 16: will get a majority of seats, but will fall short

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Speaker 16: of having a majority in parliament.

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Speaker 17: So we could be going through all this, Mike, and

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Speaker 17: then end up with a coalition minority government.

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Speaker 2: See what happens in this particular part of the world

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Speaker 2: has done throughout history is if you call a snap election,

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Speaker 2: you've got to have a really good reason for it,

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Speaker 2: or else generally at the polls you'll be punished. Is

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Speaker 2: that the Simon front, Well, the good reason that he

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Speaker 2: had was this whole.

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Speaker 16: Ever since he came to power for the second time

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Speaker 16: in twenty twenty two, we've had deadlock in the parliament.

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Speaker 16: The parliamentary elections were a couple of weeks later. He

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Speaker 16: hasn't had a majority in parliament, so he hasn't been

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Speaker 16: able to get any of his big legislation through. Every

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Speaker 16: time it's had to be trading this against this policy

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Speaker 16: against that. We've had things like the budget has had

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Speaker 16: to be pushed through by decree. Earlier this year, we

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Speaker 16: had the immigration Bill put through, and he put so

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Speaker 16: much of it through that in the end it went

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Speaker 16: to the Constitutional Council and they threw out a lot

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Speaker 16: of the clauses that Mahining la Pen's party put in there, so.

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Speaker 17: It couldn't go on.

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Speaker 16: He'd been facing a lot of censure motions in Parliament.

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Speaker 17: There was a question mark.

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Speaker 16: Remember we spoke about this last week when that downgrade

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Speaker 16: four the economy came in. He was going to have

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Speaker 16: trouble getting his budget through come November.

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Speaker 17: So it was a bad time. None of the none

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Speaker 17: of them. If you like, the.

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Speaker 16: Lights were flashing green, that's going to be okay. It

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Speaker 16: was all saying warning, warning ahead, okay.

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Speaker 2: What's the vibe generally, Catherine? The Greens got hit badly.

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Speaker 2: I know there's angst around the climate change policies of

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Speaker 2: the European Union. The Belgian Prime Minister's quit because of it.

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Speaker 2: Ol Of Schultz is under tremendous pression now because his

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Speaker 2: party got a trouncing as well. What's the vibe.

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Speaker 16: The vibe is thank goodness at least that this Center

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Speaker 16: for the European Parliament has held.

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Speaker 17: That was a big relief.

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Speaker 16: Yes, here in France it looks bad because the far

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Speaker 16: right did so well. But the vibers okay, they've kept

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Speaker 16: parliament to the European Parliament. The Greens aren't as strong

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Speaker 16: as they were. There is a question about the budget.

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Speaker 16: How's this going to work? But I think again we

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Speaker 16: come back to France, that major country right in Europe.

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Speaker 16: It is central to the European Union in turmoil at

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Speaker 16: the moment politically, and whatever happens in France will directly

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Speaker 16: effect whatever is going to happen the EU.

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Speaker 2: Ain't that the truth? Nice to catch up with you.

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Speaker 2: We'll see next Tuesday. Cats from field in France for

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Speaker 2: us this morning already ten to seven.

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Speaker 1: My cost Gil breakfairs with Bailey's real Estate News Talks EP.

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Speaker 2: Just why I ask the question? So this, first of all,

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Speaker 2: this is Tim Costley nationally mp O TAKEI thirty six

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Speaker 2: and a half grand for an allowance on his own place.

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Speaker 2: Prime Minister got into trouble mainly with the media. I

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Speaker 2: don't think anyone else really cared. He owns an apartment

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Speaker 2: in Wellington. He was claiming it because he's entitled to claim.

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Speaker 2: All of this is within the law. It's within the rules.

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Speaker 2: It's the rules set up. And we've been if you

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Speaker 2: go back to Bill English, the Bill English scenario, if

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Speaker 2: your memory goes back along and we've been here many

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Speaker 2: many times before, and we seem to I just don't

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Speaker 2: get why we're trying to make the same story over

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Speaker 2: and over again. So they write to stuff in their

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Speaker 2: angsty left leaning way o tacky. MP Tim Costley owns

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Speaker 2: a one point four million dollar riverside home and why

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Speaker 2: can I who cares two rental properties in Palmerston and

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Speaker 2: a Wellington flat, and so he's claiming for the Wellington flat.

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Speaker 2: Here's an argument is this. It works out about the

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Speaker 2: same if he stayed in the hotel. So what is

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Speaker 2: it we're whining about. Are we whining about the fact

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Speaker 2: that he's claiming the money or we're whining about the

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Speaker 2: fact that doesn't go to a hotel because the same

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Speaker 2: amount of money is being spent. The safest, most sustainable

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Speaker 2: way for me to function as an MP is to

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Speaker 2: stay at Wellington where the house is sitting. Seems perfectly

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Speaker 2: sensible to me. As a junior MP, I'm required to

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Speaker 2: stay on the precinct until at least ten o'clock at night,

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Speaker 2: often there later after midnight urgency. I'm required to be

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Speaker 2: back at the Parliamentary Precinct for really meetings starting between

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Speaker 2: seven thirty and eight thirty in the morning. So going

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Speaker 2: all the way back up the Capital case and all

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Speaker 2: the way back down is a waste of his time,

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Speaker 2: a waste of his energy. So he stays in the

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Speaker 2: place in town he's allowed to. Those are what the

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Speaker 2: rules say. Meantime, Kieren macnaughty, who's in wire rapper. I'm

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Speaker 2: assuming they're not inferring that he needs to drive all

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Speaker 2: the way back to the wire rapper and then all

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Speaker 2: the way back again. He stays at a place that

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Speaker 2: happens to be his wife. His wife bought the place

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Speaker 2: before they got married. He's not on the wall because

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Speaker 2: he doesn't you know, he's not on it. He just

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Speaker 2: happens to be his wife. So he's staying at a

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Speaker 2: place which he's entitled to do. So my question is,

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Speaker 2: what is it you want? Do you want these people

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Speaker 2: to work for nothing? Do you want these people to

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Speaker 2: trapes home every night, come back every morning, have no allowances,

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Speaker 2: no money, no nothing, and preferably turn up on the

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Speaker 2: public area of the Parliament so we can whip them

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Speaker 2: as well?

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Speaker 10: Is that what you want?

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Speaker 16: It?

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Speaker 2: Shall we throw apples and free it?

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Speaker 17: Well?

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Speaker 7: Why do they have a whip?

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Speaker 2: Goodness sake? Five minutes away from said.

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Speaker 1: All the ins are the outs. It's the fizz on

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Speaker 1: the Mike Husking breakfast on news Talk.

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Speaker 2: Said, but from global consumer insights company called Protocol Theory,

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Speaker 2: they've done some work with a company here called easy Crypto,

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Speaker 2: and what they found is that forty five percent of

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Speaker 2: us either own, have owned, or are considering owning future

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Speaker 2: investments in crypto. So there's most of it, of course

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Speaker 2: considering owning, because no way in the world forty five

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Speaker 2: percent of is either own or have owned. It's also

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Speaker 2: found the rise in crypto in some small part due

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Speaker 2: to the bank profits. Thirty three percent say crypto's appeal

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Speaker 2: is that banks and companies profit less, and they think

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Speaker 2: governments and banks are the top two things standing between

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Speaker 2: them and financial freedom. Really could I suggest hard work

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Speaker 2: might be in there as well. It's not really the gun.

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Speaker 2: If you work a bit harder, you might be closer

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Speaker 2: to financial freedom. They also said they were looking at

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Speaker 2: crypto as an alternative to the quarter acre dreams. Sixteen

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Speaker 2: percent said they could invest a small amount of real

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Speaker 2: estate over time, compared to sixty percent who believe they

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Speaker 2: could do the same with crypto. Twenty six percent said

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Speaker 2: crypto gives greater equality for everyone, compared to twenty three

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Speaker 2: percent who think the same with property investments. There are

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Speaker 2: barriers to it. Seventy two percent so they haven't invested

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Speaker 2: because it's all a bit confusing, No kidding, it's because

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Speaker 2: it's a ponzi scheme. Sixty seven percent say the information

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Speaker 2: is difficult to understand. No kidding, it's because it's a

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Speaker 2: ponzi scheme. It's also seen as a bit of a

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Speaker 2: get rich quick scheme. No is who told you that

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Speaker 2: crypto get rich?

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Speaker 10: No?

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Speaker 2: Forty percent say they will get high returns quickly. And

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Speaker 2: because you're often message me after Andrew Caller has bit

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Speaker 2: the the bitcoin price this morning is one fourteen, one

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Speaker 2: hundred and fourteen thousand, could potentially get a boost. Rumors

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Speaker 2: China's going to look at unbanning bitcoin and other virtual

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Speaker 2: currencies as well. So that's your update on the old bitcoin.

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Speaker 2: What do you reckon the number of people who actually

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Speaker 2: own right here, right now this morning as a percentage

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Speaker 2: of the New Zealand population who actually owned bitcoin? Irick,

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Speaker 2: it's five.

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Speaker 7: Percent according to social media. There's you, of course, I reckon.

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Speaker 2: This figure or social media. I'm big on bitcoin. I

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Speaker 2: move market spleen, I'm a market movement in the bitcoin now.

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Speaker 2: I reckon it's between five and ten percent. Anyway, news

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Speaker 2: for you in a couple of moments, then Christopher Luxen

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Speaker 2: this morning on the Chinese visit. He's in the studio

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Speaker 2: after seven thirty.

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Speaker 1: The Breakfast Show You Can Trust The Mic Hosking Breakfast

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Speaker 1: with Bailey's real Estate Altogether Better across residential, commercial and

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Speaker 1: rural on News Talks ed.

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Speaker 2: B seven past seven. The New Zealand China relationship front

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Speaker 2: and center this week as the Premier Lee Chiang hits

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Speaker 2: the country and has sweeped through the region. New Zealand

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Speaker 2: China Council head Alista Croziers with on all of this,

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Speaker 2: elus the morning, Good morning mate, so very much. He's

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Speaker 2: going through Australia as well, so very much. They're re

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Speaker 2: engaged in this particular part of the world.

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Speaker 16: Yeah.

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Speaker 18: I think it's a really positive sign. The premier has

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Speaker 18: been in office for just over a year now, hasn't

657
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Speaker 18: been down here before as premier, but our Prime Minister

658
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Speaker 18: obviously formed Prime Minister Hipkins went to China last year,

659
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Speaker 18: so yeah, as part of that regular tempo of high

660
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Speaker 18: level exchanges.

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Speaker 2: I read out of Australia that he's taking a big

662
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Speaker 2: business delegation there. I'm assuming he's bringing one here. Is

663
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Speaker 2: there much business still to do and continue to grow

664
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Speaker 2: or is it so big, we're kind of reached peak China.

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Speaker 18: Well, there's absolutely room for growth. China is still predicting

666
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Speaker 18: that its middle class is going to double in the

667
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Speaker 18: next fifteen years from four hundred million to eight hundred million.

668
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Speaker 18: So I think we need to look a little bit

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Speaker 18: beyond the speed wobbles coming out of COVID and focus

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Speaker 18: on the absolute size of the market. Even if if

671
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Speaker 18: annual GDP growth slows, the loot increase to Chinese economy

672
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Speaker 18: is going to be huge.

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Speaker 2: I'm also reading about the CPTPP and they want it,

674
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Speaker 2: and the Chinese want in and we can probably help

675
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Speaker 2: them do that. Is any of that realistical or not?

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Speaker 18: Do you think, oh, look, I mean New Zealand's approach

677
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Speaker 18: is that we welcome any country that can meet the

678
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Speaker 18: very high standards of the CPTPP. I think we'd be

679
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Speaker 18: naive to think it was not also about regional politics,

680
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Speaker 18: and so the other members of the agreement have to

681
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Speaker 18: want China as well. But you know that it's going

682
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Speaker 18: to be an extended discussion, but I think it's one

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Speaker 18: worth having because we need China in these key key

684
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Speaker 18: economic blocks.

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Speaker 2: And how long is the meeting going between him and

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Speaker 2: Luxel and before the word orcust comes up, do you reckon?

687
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Speaker 18: It may not come up at all.

688
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Speaker 19: It may be a little bit more diplomatic than that,

689
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Speaker 19: but certainly you know it's clear from the visits we've

690
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Speaker 19: already had this year by the Foreign Minister and the

691
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Speaker 19: head of the Communist Party International Department.

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Speaker 18: That's going to be an exchange and both sides have

693
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Speaker 18: read through their talking points twice this year to each other,

694
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Speaker 18: and so there'll be another open, honest exchange of views.

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Speaker 2: Good on, yellister Alistair Crazy, who's the executive director of

696
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Speaker 2: the New Zealand China Council, imagine making a living talking

697
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Speaker 2: through talking points nine minutes past seven pask getting Crystal

698
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Speaker 2: Luxen in the studio after seven thirty with more on that.

699
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Speaker 2: Of course, we've got new stats on our school attendance

700
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Speaker 2: and May it was eighty two to eighty four percent

701
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Speaker 2: for most days, down from a high of eighty nine

702
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 2: percent at the start of the term in April. Meantime,

703
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Speaker 2: a briefing paper to David Seymour, who's the Associate Education Minister,

704
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Speaker 2: says only fifteen percent of students are meeting the government's benchmark,

705
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Speaker 2: So what are we make of all of this. Darfield

706
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Speaker 2: High School Principal Andy England is with us on this Andy,

707
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Speaker 2: very good morning to you, Cure and Mike. We stand

708
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Speaker 2: a very good chance of being run over by too

709
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Speaker 2: many stats, don't we. I mean, what do we read

710
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Speaker 2: into this? Is it eighty nine? Is at eighty four?

711
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Speaker 2: Is too is at fifteen? What's going on?

712
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Speaker 20: Well, look, there are so many stats out there is

713
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Speaker 20: on the level. I'll just give you some from Darfield

714
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Speaker 20: High School. We were from last term. We were ninety

715
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Speaker 20: one one percent Tuesday to Thursday, eighty nine percent on

716
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Speaker 20: a Monday, and eighty seven percent on a Friday.

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Speaker 2: See, and then that is the cold hard reality of life.

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Speaker 2: If people can't be bothered turning up on a Friday

719
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Speaker 2: at work, why would you expect your kids to turn

720
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Speaker 2: up on a Friday at school?

721
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Speaker 21: Well?

722
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Speaker 20: You, yeah, I think there's a little bit more to

723
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Speaker 20: it than that. Actually, we're trying to dig into it.

724
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Speaker 20: So just in a survey, and here's another stat forty

725
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Speaker 20: seven percent of correspondents said that education is important. But

726
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Speaker 20: I am also I also value life skills with a family,

727
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Speaker 20: of course you do. So we've got a few people,

728
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Speaker 20: I think probably say the kids out for a long

729
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Speaker 20: weekend hunt or a ski something else on a Friday,

730
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Speaker 20: although to be sad, they weren't skiing in turn one

731
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Speaker 20: were they? It's interesting that trades academies that also operate

732
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Speaker 20: on a Friday have nearly one hundred percent attendance. Oh,

733
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Speaker 20: I think we have to dig behind the stats.

734
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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. Do you think any of it's achievable in

735
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Speaker 2: the sense that I wonder if they're a bit bogged

736
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Speaker 2: down with statistics and in reality, if you once you

737
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Speaker 2: take out illness genuine illness, do you know, for examp

738
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Speaker 2: ample with the illness is genuine or not? Who you

739
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 2: just accept the kids not there for a couple of

740
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Speaker 2: days and they said they're ill.

741
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Speaker 4: It is the letter.

742
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Speaker 20: Yeah, we can't really test anymore. It's only a way

743
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 20: for a long period of time. You might ask, But

744
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 20: the reality is we have so many it's like it's

745
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 20: a rotating doors, so many people coming and going, and

746
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Speaker 20: I think thickness. Yeah, we can't ask people for evidence exactly.

747
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Speaker 2: So how much preciative you place on them around a

748
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Speaker 2: Friday or a Monday.

749
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Speaker 20: Well, the way the trades academy is, it's very clear

750
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Speaker 20: you have to be there to pass the court. So

751
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Speaker 20: I think that's a great example where some of those

752
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 20: black and white rules can really help. There's one hundred

753
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Speaker 20: percent expectation of attendance on a Monday as well. The

754
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Speaker 20: sickness thing is interesting, isn't it, Because are you sick

755
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Speaker 20: on a Monday? Or why would we have more people

756
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Speaker 20: sick on a Monday than a Tuesday, for example. So

757
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Speaker 20: that's why I say, I think we've got to understand

758
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Speaker 20: it more. I think the clarity of the rules will help.

759
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Speaker 20: It's a base level. But I also think that we've

760
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Speaker 20: sort of got a look at our model of education

761
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Speaker 20: because ever since COVID parents have been a lot more

762
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Speaker 20: picky consumers than in every outpect of life. All are

763
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 20: still a sort of factory model that we've always had.

764
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Speaker 20: So I'm hearing more parents saying, well, we want to

765
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Speaker 20: homeschool one day two days a week, and at the

766
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Speaker 20: moment the models are not really there for that sort

767
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Speaker 20: of learning, but in some ways it.

768
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Speaker 4: Can be quite helpful.

769
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Speaker 20: It's not as easy for teachers, but it's actually not

770
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Speaker 20: a bad model for those families who are motivated and

771
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Speaker 20: do it their way.

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Speaker 2: Very good insight, Andy, well done, appreciated very much. Andy England,

773
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Speaker 2: who's the Darfield High School principal, and at the cut

774
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Speaker 2: of his jib. And that's before you get to the

775
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Speaker 2: year thirteen business. And you know, when you get to

776
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Speaker 2: year thirteen, you get a lot of kids who are

777
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,800
Speaker 2: sort of by July August, they've got their credits and

778
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 2: they sort of don't need to be there anymore, and

779
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Speaker 2: that will affect the overall stats. Thirteen minutes past seven, Husky,

780
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Speaker 2: What an interesting little reader I had yesterday afternoon about

781
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 2: the Ehamota. Remember Ehemota Ehomotel was the end of the world.

782
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 2: It was occupation time, it was protest time. It was

783
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Speaker 2: just Cinda adern I distinctly remember it. She remember she

784
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Speaker 2: went down there to talk to the people who are.

785
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Speaker 17: Oh, hello there, how are you.

786
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Speaker 2: Have you met my friend Willie will he's got the money. Well,

787
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Speaker 2: he's got thirty million dollars for you. Would you like

788
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,319
Speaker 2: us to give you thirty million dollars? And they did,

789
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 2: of course, and they bought the land and you were fantastic.

790
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 2: So what's happened to that in the ensuing years? And

791
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:14,320
Speaker 2: the answers I'm reading yesterday? Just let me go to

792
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Speaker 2: the Oh nothing, that's right, so all of that noise,

793
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,319
Speaker 2: all of that protest, all of the housing that were

794
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 2: so desperately desperately needed, all of the scandal that was unfolding,

795
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 2: the millions of dollars are nothing. So they've set up

796
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 2: a special group and the special group has been what's

797
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 2: made up of two Crown representatives, a representative from the

798
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Speaker 2: king e Tonguer, three representing the Ahika groups. And when

799
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 2: asked about what had been discussed, nothing to update. You

800
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:51,479
Speaker 2: would normally laugh if it wasn't so pathetic. Fourteen past

801
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Speaker 2: seven the my hosting breakfast and Chelsea Handler after eight

802
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 2: Rod Little on the campaign trail and Britain after eight

803
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Speaker 2: thirty This morning seventeen past seven are let's look at

804
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 2: the rise of the community patrol. So we've got one

805
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,439
Speaker 2: hundred and seventy of them across the country these days

806
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 2: police say they rely heavily on them when dealing with

807
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 2: the rise and crime. Ipsom, which is an Auckland suburb,

808
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 2: has a well established one and founder and leader Rod

809
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 2: gab is with this road. Very good morning, good waning Mike.

810
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 2: How long you've been going and how successful are you?

811
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Speaker 4: We started off in May twenty two and we started

812
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,240
Speaker 4: patrolling in December twenty two, so we'll be going patrolling

813
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 4: for the last six months.

814
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 2: And when you say patrolling, what literally do you do?

815
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:29,839
Speaker 4: Literally we do. We are with a minimum of two

816
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 4: of us on a shift on a patrol and we

817
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 4: head out anywhere between two to four hours and order

818
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:38,240
Speaker 4: to get two to three hours and we literally patrol

819
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 4: the suburbs and the streets, both businesses and residences around Ipsom, Renuar, Newmarket,

820
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 4: Parnell up to oural Oak and West East Mount Eden.

821
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 4: So we've got a large patch.

822
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 2: Well I was going to say you're on wheels, not

823
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 2: I thought I'd take it.

824
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 4: We've got a combination, so mainly wheels, but there's a

825
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:58,359
Speaker 4: number of areas that we do by foot as well, Mike.

826
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:02,360
Speaker 4: So taking around the business association areas, we tend to

827
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:04,360
Speaker 4: get on our feet and do that. And likewise in

828
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 4: some of the parks out in the suburbs, we'll walk

829
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 4: around the parks of an evening with a torch and

830
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 4: just make sure it's under control.

831
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 2: And what if it's not as well, what do you

832
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 2: do then?

833
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 4: What we do then is we get straight on. If

834
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:18,279
Speaker 4: it's serious enough, we will get straight into the police

835
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 4: we'll call one one one or in a recent case,

836
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 4: I action called them to the new Market stations says, hey, guys,

837
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 4: you need to get up here on the Broadway. We've

838
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 4: got an instid of unfolding that we need support and

839
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 4: we had we had four patrol cars and they're in

840
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 4: a matter of minutes, about ten minutes.

841
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:31,760
Speaker 2: Are you in danger?

842
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 15: No?

843
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 4: Not at this junction. No, because we are not. We're

844
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 4: not trained and we're not engaged with criminal activity. If

845
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 4: we said unfolding, we stay in our wagon and we

846
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 4: get onto the police.

847
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 2: Right, and so you don't you go wait or something

848
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:46,880
Speaker 2: like that.

849
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 4: We don't, We don't, we don't. We don't really will.

850
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 4: We prefer to observe and then report it and get

851
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 4: it sort of that way, because as I say, we don't,

852
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:59,359
Speaker 4: we're not trained to arrest or to confront people.

853
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:01,319
Speaker 2: And do you have a recruitment issues and people? I mean,

854
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,279
Speaker 2: two to three hours is a lot, and that's the

855
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 2: first question I would ask, you know, am I going

856
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 2: to get beaten up? Et cetera? And you need to

857
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 2: convince me that I'm not.

858
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:12,800
Speaker 4: It's very very safe. We have we do training. We

859
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 4: have an on learning training model model, We were well

860
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 4: trained by the trainers in the organization, And as I say,

861
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,399
Speaker 4: we've never been thus fund the six months that we've

862
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:28,720
Speaker 4: been patrolling. We've been in the uncompromising position of danger.

863
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:31,720
Speaker 4: So we've got a mixture of ages, guys and girls,

864
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 4: different cultures and you know it's going well, it's working well.

865
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:37,840
Speaker 4: We just need to reverse the numbers from sixteen to

866
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Speaker 4: sixty one.

867
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. Would you argue that crime is measurably down

868
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:45,279
Speaker 2: or different because you're there along with the police.

869
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:49,720
Speaker 4: Well, I certainly read an article last night by Constable

870
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 4: Don Allen out of the Only Hanger station who said

871
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 4: that crime is down ten percent month on month in

872
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 4: only Hunger and EPSOM, and I wouldn't say that it's

873
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Speaker 4: totally due to us, but i'd say we'd be a

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Speaker 2: Fantastic Rod go, Well, that's good community stuff.

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Speaker 16: I like it.

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Speaker 2: Rod Gab who's part of the EPSOM Community Patrol, talk

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Speaker 2: As seven twenty four, once again we asked the question,

904
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Speaker 2: among many questions around the matter, who is paying for

905
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Speaker 2: the Waitangi Tribunal and how much of it is what

906
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Speaker 2: you would loosely call value for money. There's a new

907
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Speaker 2: urgent hearing this week. It is to do with the

908
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Speaker 2: new government's promise to have non Mari government departments use

909
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Speaker 2: English for their name. I think the NZTA, the Ministry

910
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Speaker 2: of Education. Now, the argument brought forward by a tarong

911
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Speaker 2: a Ewe is this does harm the policy, this does

912
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Speaker 2: harm to terreo small irony. So far, for many people

913
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Speaker 2: it seems to contact this particular program. It doesn't seem

914
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Speaker 2: that the instruction has been sent out by the government

915
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Speaker 2: at all. The waters were somewhat muddied, I thought when

916
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Speaker 2: it was suggested that ol Ranger Tamariki might keep their

917
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Speaker 2: name as well as kayeg Aura, given they were the

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Speaker 2: names most of us knew the department by. How they

919
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Speaker 2: come up with that I don't know, although I assume

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Speaker 2: they meant that given those two departments in particular have

921
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Speaker 2: spent a lot of time in the news. The commonality

922
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Speaker 2: of the reference might well have stuck. Which of you

923
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Speaker 2: think about it was sort of the idea in the

924
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Speaker 2: first place, really, wasn't it. Having the vast majority of

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Speaker 2: us exposed to another language, especially an official language, may

926
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Speaker 2: help the language live, breathe, and expand. But what also

927
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Speaker 2: happened is Mari terms, names and phrases got tossed about

928
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Speaker 2: with mad abandoned and muddy the water's a comprehension. The

929
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Speaker 2: media have broadly speaking in a fit of wokeism and

930
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Speaker 2: embarrassed themselves, and in part for the damage they're already

931
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Speaker 2: damaged reputations by embracing the activity with an alacrity that's

932
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Speaker 2: been humiliating. Tokenism is not language, but tokenism is what

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Speaker 2: you get. A news bulletin's a peppering of Mari with

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Speaker 2: the English that leads to nothing more than a trendy

935
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Speaker 2: nod to a fad. But it's a national crisis, apparently

936
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Speaker 2: so much so that taxpayer money must once again be

937
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Speaker 2: dispersed to lawyers and full time agitators to once again

938
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Speaker 2: front the tribunal, who will write their usual report, which

939
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Speaker 2: will be treated in the usual way, which is what's

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Speaker 2: the marry word for bin asking like how much have

941
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Speaker 2: the ram raids dropped. Well, this is a very good

942
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Speaker 2: story that's not being widely covered. This morning, ram raids

943
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Speaker 2: are down eighty percent eight zero percent down eighty percent.

944
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Speaker 2: Couldn't cover ram raids enough when they were out of control.

945
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Speaker 2: Suddenly when they're not out of control, we don't want

946
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Speaker 2: to cover them at all. You will hear it on

947
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Speaker 2: our news. But asking yourself around the rest of the

948
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Speaker 2: country day, how many people are talking about the dropping

949
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Speaker 2: ram raids? I think, says the text to community Patrols help,

950
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Speaker 2: may well be the case, Mike. Did the statistics take

951
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Speaker 2: into account that Auckland High schools had a teacher only

952
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Speaker 2: day on Friday before King's birth? Then, now, funny you

953
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Speaker 2: should say that because I'm one of those critics as well.

954
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Speaker 2: How come all those teacher only days are just before

955
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Speaker 2: the long weekend, especially given all the holiday schools have. Anyway,

956
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Speaker 2: I didn't realize, But it's a Ministry of Education thing.

957
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Speaker 2: They're the ones who schedule the long weekend days or

958
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Speaker 2: the teacher only days. It's not the school, so the

959
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Speaker 2: school can do nothing about it. That's the Ministry of Education.

960
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Speaker 2: Go well, you'll have a long weekend, doesn't make it right.

961
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Speaker 2: I'm just saying that it's a ministry, not the school.

962
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Speaker 21: Mike.

963
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Speaker 2: School should be funded on actual attendance, not their total role.

964
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Speaker 2: That's not a bad idea. It would certainly provide an

965
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Speaker 2: impetus to get the kids into school morning. My daughter

966
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Speaker 2: got attention for ten minutes late to school while her

967
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Speaker 2: attended tociber ninety five percent. The very next day she

968
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Speaker 2: had no teacher for a first two periods. The double

969
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Speaker 2: standard is a blatant slap in the face, Stephen. Is

970
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Speaker 2: it because the teacher wasn't there where? If your daughter

971
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Speaker 2: was late, the teacher had been late, you might have

972
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Speaker 2: a point. But the teacher wasn't there, And why wasn't

973
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Speaker 2: the teacher there? Was the teacher not there because they

974
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Speaker 2: were sick or because they couldn't be bothered turning up.

975
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Speaker 2: But having said that, going you know, having lived through

976
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Speaker 2: it for the last decade, at least, the number of

977
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Speaker 2: relief I'll tell you what the the job to have

978
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Speaker 2: if you're into it, is relief teacher. If you're a

979
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Speaker 2: relief teacher, I can assure you you could work one

980
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Speaker 2: hundred and twenty hours a week every week for your

981
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Speaker 2: entire life. Because the demand for relief teachers is astonishing.

982
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Speaker 2: Prime Minister Christopher Luxen, he's got a Chinese guest coming

983
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Speaker 2: in before he takes off to Japan. This and the

984
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 2: Mari Party investigation will be covered off shortly.

985
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Speaker 1: THESLD opinions, the my Asking Breakfast with our Veda Live

986
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Speaker 1: the Age You Feel News talks Enby.

987
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Speaker 2: Three minutes away, promote Chelsea Handlers with us after eight

988
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Speaker 2: o'clock this morning, meantime time for the Prime Minister's Tuesday

989
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Speaker 2: Morning Good to see you to the Maori investigation, Mary

990
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Speaker 2: Parting investigation, the Public Service Commission, who runs it? And

991
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Speaker 2: when are we getting those details?

992
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Speaker 21: Yeah, so that'll be confirmed this week. The terms of reference,

993
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 21: who's the reviewer and actually the timing around that. Just

994
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 21: taking a step back. What we're trying to do is

995
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Speaker 21: make sure there's trust and confidence in the public institutions.

996
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Speaker 21: I want to make sure that we've actually got an

997
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Speaker 21: all of government sort of response to did the agencies

998
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Speaker 21: do the right thing managing conflicts, making sure they manage

999
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Speaker 21: the data appropriately. And there's a bunch of independent agency

1000
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Speaker 21: reviews going on, but I don't think it's appropriate that

1001
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Speaker 21: agencies do their own sort of review of themselves. So

1002
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Speaker 21: that's why I want to the.

1003
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Speaker 2: Ones that have started by the police, are they wasting

1004
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Speaker 2: their time or.

1005
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Speaker 21: That's important that have a very narrow scope about what

1006
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 21: they did or didn't do, but that all needs to

1007
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Speaker 21: be fed into and interrogated by the public service cons

1008
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Speaker 21: So are.

1009
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Speaker 2: You're looking at government departments and what they did or

1010
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:13,280
Speaker 2: didn't do or are you looking at the Mallori party

1011
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Speaker 2: and what they did or did.

1012
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Speaker 21: So the police and the Privacy Commissioner they have compelling

1013
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Speaker 21: powers and they'll be able to look at the third

1014
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Speaker 21: party actors in this case, the Party Maori, the Trust.

1015
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Speaker 2: The Right, all that stuff yesterday. It's got nothing to

1016
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Speaker 2: do with the Malory party.

1017
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Speaker 21: Correct, It's got to really look at the government agency

1018
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Speaker 21: response and its interaction with those agents with those parties,

1019
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Speaker 21: particularly did they fire the right process on data management,

1020
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Speaker 21: conflicts of unterst those sorts of things.

1021
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Speaker 2: Although you're never going to find anything out because if

1022
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Speaker 2: I go along to the Mariah and I'm filling in

1023
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Speaker 2: a sensus and they say, hey, there's your number, and

1024
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Speaker 2: I'm going to take that over there and then we'll

1025
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Speaker 2: ring you later on and send you a few texts

1026
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Speaker 2: and you can vote for the Malory Party, Your investigation

1027
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Speaker 2: doesn't get anywhere near.

1028
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Speaker 7: That does now.

1029
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Speaker 21: But what I'd say is the police investigation will and

1030
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Speaker 21: the Privacy Commissioner investigation will because they have compelling powers,

1031
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Speaker 21: coercive powers to be to look at all of that stuff,

1032
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Speaker 21: which they've already got investigations up and running and doing it.

1033
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Speaker 21: What I'm making sure is that actually New Zealanders know

1034
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Speaker 21: that there is trust and confidence in their institutions and

1035
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Speaker 21: in the agencies in particular. I don't want them essentially

1036
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Speaker 21: marking their own homework. I want to make sure that

1037
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Speaker 21: actually they've acted appropriately managing potential conflicts interest because the

1038
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Speaker 21: allegations are pretty serious. So they end up in a

1039
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Speaker 21: place where data roams from one organization through to another

1040
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Speaker 21: organization because someone's wearing multiple hats that stuff. I want

1041
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Speaker 21: to know, how has that been managed?

1042
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Speaker 2: Is that part the serious part? Or is it the

1043
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 2: serious part the Mailory Party who allegedly took information they

1044
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Speaker 2: weren't entitled to and used it in a way that's

1045
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Speaker 2: against the law.

1046
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Speaker 21: Yeah, Well, that's that's why these allegations are incredibly serious,

1047
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Speaker 21: and that's why they need to be properly investigated, and

1048
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Speaker 21: the police and the Privacy Commissioner have those powers to

1049
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Speaker 21: do that part of it. And then I want to

1050
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Speaker 21: make sure, rather than having a series of individual agencies

1051
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Speaker 21: investigations which are important, but actually that there's a whole

1052
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Speaker 21: of government response, that we understand what government. You know,

1053
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Speaker 21: I want to be reassured that government actually recorrected well

1054
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Speaker 21: to it.

1055
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Speaker 2: The Privacy Commissioner have the power to subpoena people.

1056
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Speaker 21: Because yeses I understand it. They and the police do because.

1057
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Speaker 2: That's the only way you're going to get to bottom of.

1058
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Speaker 21: Its compelling powers. And that's why they've got those powers

1059
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Speaker 21: and don't. I can't run an investigation that runs over

1060
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Speaker 21: the top of all of that. And that's why when

1061
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Speaker 21: I looked at all the options set that I had

1062
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Speaker 21: in front of me, I decided that that was the

1063
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Speaker 21: best way to go. And you know, they'll get an

1064
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Speaker 21: independent reviewer and they'll be able to get the terms

1065
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Speaker 21: of reference and actually engage with all those agencies and

1066
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Speaker 21: make sure that we've got that they've done everything right.

1067
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Speaker 2: Because you seem to me to have rules, and you

1068
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:33,759
Speaker 2: have laws. So the rules, for example, is should a

1069
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Speaker 2: Maria whose candidate is the CEO then turn out to

1070
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Speaker 2: be a polling booth. Yep, Well those that's your inquiry,

1071
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 2: isn't it.

1072
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Speaker 21: Well, that's a responsibility of the Electoral Commission, which will

1073
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Speaker 21: actually be you know, my inquiry will look at all

1074
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Speaker 21: the government agencies and Crown indies if we have to

1075
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Speaker 21: as well, and their response.

1076
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Speaker 2: But then you go to the government that sets the

1077
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Speaker 2: precedent by handing out lollies and warriors tickets to fill

1078
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Speaker 2: in forms, and that's part of it as well, isn't it.

1079
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Speaker 21: Yeah, Well, that's the point I'm trying to get to

1080
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 21: is like, well, you know, have have the government agencies

1081
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Speaker 21: behaved appropriately?

1082
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:09,760
Speaker 2: And well what's appropriate? Who decided?

1083
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Speaker 21: Well, that's what I want the independent reviewer to look at.

1084
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Speaker 21: So for example, there are real rules around you know,

1085
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Speaker 21: when you pass you know, third party information off or

1086
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Speaker 21: data off into different organizations, whether you're outsourcing that to

1087
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Speaker 21: other community organizations to do a bunch of work or not.

1088
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 21: I want to make sure that's all really tight, and

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Speaker 21: I want to make sure conflicts are managed. Now that's

1090
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Speaker 21: the other piece in this as well, is to make

1091
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Speaker 21: sure that conflicts of interest are properly, properly managed. You

1092
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:34,759
Speaker 21: can't have you know, data flowing through a series of

1093
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Speaker 21: organizations while someone's wearing multiple hats.

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Speaker 2: I mean, but it was there for everyone to see.

1095
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 2: I mean, the CEO is the candidate who runs the marah,

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Speaker 2: which is the polling booth, which is the scene for

1097
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Speaker 2: the census, which is the center for the COVID vaccine,

1098
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:48,440
Speaker 2: and the warriors tickets are being handed out and we

1099
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 2: might be swapping numbers and texting people. That's why the cluster.

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Speaker 21: Yeah, well, that's why I'm saying the allegations are very serious.

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Speaker 21: New Zealand prides itself on having really robust, quality public institutions.

1102
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Speaker 21: That's why I want sunlight put on it because actually,

1103
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Speaker 21: if if they're true, they're really serious. Yes they are,

1104
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Speaker 21: and if they're not true, they're equally The parties deserve

1105
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:06,839
Speaker 21: clarity on that too.

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Speaker 2: Without prejudging what the police might come up with. As

1107
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Speaker 2: regards David McLeod as the leader of the party, is

1108
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Speaker 2: your understanding he's administratively negligent, it's not criminal.

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Speaker 21: Yeah, look he's he's really made a big mistake. He's

1110
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Speaker 21: owned up to that. He's fully cooperating with the police.

1111
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Speaker 21: He's grateful it. Actually it has moved through to the

1112
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Speaker 21: police quickly.

1113
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Speaker 2: What should the police be I mean, I know rules

1114
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:28,880
Speaker 2: have been broken, because we all seem to admit the

1115
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 2: rules were broken. I mean, if they've got better things

1116
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 2: to do with their time, what are they going to do?

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00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:33,920
Speaker 21: I mean, we've got an electoral system, We've got an

1118
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Speaker 21: electoral commission, and you know, the resubmission of his return

1119
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Speaker 21: as you know, I got put back to electoral commission,

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Speaker 21: and then they determine whether it's a breach or not

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Speaker 21: that requires police or serious fraud investigation. I think those

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00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:46,839
Speaker 21: things are kind of important. You know, we don't want

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Speaker 21: to have our public institutions, our democratic processes sort of

1124
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Speaker 21: undermined in any form of way. So let's follow the process.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Chinese premier, he walks into the room and you go, hello, Premier,

1126
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Speaker 2: how are you? How long before there's a few translations?

1127
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 2: But how long before the word orcast comes up? Look,

1128
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 2: it'll be pretty.

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Speaker 21: The Chinese relationship is a long standing one. It's pretty complex.

1130
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 21: There's two parts to it. We cooperate where we can

1131
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 21: on common interest and that's trade and all that good stuff,

1132
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 21: but equally a lot let's be honest, we have different

1133
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:17,759
Speaker 21: political systems, we have different political cultures, histories and as

1134
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 21: a result, we have differences of opinion. That's no different

1135
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:22,800
Speaker 21: from any other relationship we have Frankly as well. But

1136
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:25,279
Speaker 21: we'll be talking about the issues that are important to us,

1137
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 21: and I'm sure he'll raise things with us.

1138
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:29,400
Speaker 2: He's only hearing in Australia because they're worried about the Americans.

1139
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 2: That's basically what it's about, isn't it. Well, there's a

1140
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 2: bit of trade on the side, but.

1141
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 21: Yeah, Actually in this case, his focus is he's very

1142
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:38,560
Speaker 21: much responsible for the economic agenda in China, and he's

1143
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:41,080
Speaker 21: concerned because China's obviously hitting head winds. They've got a

1144
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 21: declining population, they've got to slow down on their growth.

1145
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 21: I've got high levels of youth unemployment. So his interest

1146
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 21: is really about productivity and economic productivity. So there is

1147
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:51,600
Speaker 21: the trade piece of it will actually be a very

1148
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:54,279
Speaker 21: important part because from a New Zealand perspective, there is

1149
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:56,880
Speaker 21: still lots of opportunity there. There's also lots of opportunities

1150
00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:59,359
Speaker 21: Southeast Asia, Northeast Asia and India as well.

1151
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:01,880
Speaker 2: We'll talk about Japana just a couple of moments that

1152
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 2: they allegedly want into the CPTPP. Are we in a

1153
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:07,240
Speaker 2: position to help them? If they ask, have they asked?

1154
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:10,359
Speaker 21: They might likely ask, but our position is really clear.

1155
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:13,399
Speaker 21: We don't actually side with any particular aspirant that wants

1156
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:15,839
Speaker 21: to enter the CPTPP or deeper is the other one,

1157
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:20,359
Speaker 21: the digital grouping as well. We have a process which

1158
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:22,799
Speaker 21: is they've got to demonstrate that they've actually managed other

1159
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 21: trade obligations. Well, actually, well that's what they're This is

1160
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:28,840
Speaker 21: what we call the Auckland principless criteria. They've got to

1161
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:31,840
Speaker 21: go through and there's a process that they need to

1162
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:32,279
Speaker 21: go through.

1163
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:34,279
Speaker 2: Well, as one of the people who would agree or

1164
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 2: not agree to letting them in, they wouldn't pass mustard,

1165
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:37,440
Speaker 2: would they.

1166
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 21: Well, again, that's something that we don't pass judgment on

1167
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 21: individual cases. We do genuinely run it through the group

1168
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 21: and there has to be consensus within the group, so.

1169
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:46,239
Speaker 2: Everyone has to agree.

1170
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Speaker 21: Correct, You've got to make sure you've held up high standards. Well,

1171
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 21: it's a high sounds in your trading obligation.

1172
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Speaker 2: Would you tell them that to be asked?

1173
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:56,880
Speaker 21: Well, that's what we'll be laying out those criteria for sure.

1174
00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 2: Because they haven't have they I mean, they're not free traders,

1175
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:02,280
Speaker 2: they're not trade is there? Well, that's that's an assessment

1176
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:03,760
Speaker 2: the CPTPP.

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Speaker 16: You.

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Speaker 21: I'll be outlining the criteria when I get asked about that.

1179
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:09,759
Speaker 2: You know, the Europeans and the Americans seem to have

1180
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:11,440
Speaker 2: a few issues with the way they do trade and

1181
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 2: that would trip them up.

1182
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:14,800
Speaker 21: Surely, Well, it's them and many other aspirants that have

1183
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 21: actually got to meet that test. And so it's pretty clear.

1184
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 21: We've laid out three things that they've got to do.

1185
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 2: Okay, Direction one one O, which has come out since

1186
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 2: we've last talked. Is it worth making a phone call

1187
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 2: to anyone in Australia to express your upset at this

1188
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 2: or is it done well?

1189
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 21: I think it's actually I mean, the first thing I'd

1190
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:32,360
Speaker 21: say is like Australia is completely within its freedom to

1191
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:34,239
Speaker 21: set its own rules and laws as it sees fit.

1192
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 21: We have a major issue when people get deported here

1193
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:39,400
Speaker 21: they have no connections to the country. I've spoken to

1194
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:42,400
Speaker 21: Prome Minister Alban Easy, Foreign Minister Peters has spoken to

1195
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 21: the Immigration minister involved. We've raised our concerns very very strongly,

1196
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:48,880
Speaker 21: and he has reassured me that there will continue to

1197
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 21: be a common sense approach will apply. The devil will

1198
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 21: be in the detail and that's what we now need

1199
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Speaker 21: to monitor as it moves from words on a page

1200
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Speaker 21: to actually implementation of process. We want to see how

1201
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 21: that all shakes. I'll continue to raise that with him,

1202
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 21: and he's well aware of our concerns. He reassured me

1203
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:08,440
Speaker 21: that a common sense approach would continue to apply. And

1204
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:10,320
Speaker 21: let's see, and that's what I wanted to do.

1205
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Speaker 2: Is Japan just an extension of what you did the

1206
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 2: other day.

1207
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:15,720
Speaker 21: Well, Japan's quite important because one it's the fourth largest

1208
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:18,480
Speaker 21: economy in the world. It's our fourth biggest trading partner, actually,

1209
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 21: third biggest source of international students, fifth biggest source of tourists.

1210
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 21: And we need to do two things there. One is

1211
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 21: to go back and say, hey, listen on our core

1212
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:29,560
Speaker 21: businesses and horticulture and agriculture and tourism and education, we're

1213
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:31,759
Speaker 21: back open for business because we actually need to turn

1214
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:33,759
Speaker 21: the volume up in those markets and that's why I'm

1215
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 21: taking thirty one business delegation there. And the second thing

1216
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 21: is we have lots of things of interest to them

1217
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:42,480
Speaker 21: around renewable energy, geo thermal actually space that they are

1218
00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 21: very interested as well. So Sir Peter Beck's coming to

1219
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:47,279
Speaker 21: Rocket Lab with us on that as well. And then

1220
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:50,120
Speaker 21: the other bid is the political pieces that you promise

1221
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 21: to Ksheta is a key player in the region and

1222
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:53,799
Speaker 21: now I mean from a security sense as well as

1223
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 21: obviously from an economic sense. So it's important that again

1224
00:54:57,239 --> 00:54:59,880
Speaker 21: I want the intensity of our relationships lifted big time.

1225
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 21: That's why when I've got a recess break, I'm shooting

1226
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:04,720
Speaker 21: off very quickly, as I did last week to Pacific,

1227
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:07,400
Speaker 21: this week to China and having China visitors and then

1228
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:07,960
Speaker 21: into Japan.

1229
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:10,319
Speaker 2: Go well, you're on the seven five seven again, Yeah,

1230
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:11,680
Speaker 2: we will got us there.

1231
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:11,879
Speaker 10: Mic.

1232
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:15,560
Speaker 2: Last time one's further. It's a longer truck, yea.

1233
00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:17,400
Speaker 21: But I just tuned down on the takeoffs and the

1234
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:20,360
Speaker 21: landings and we go to Port Moresby for the refuel

1235
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:23,360
Speaker 21: and in order to Tokyo. So I've got every confidence.

1236
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:25,440
Speaker 21: I've got more building confidence every time I get on

1237
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:25,839
Speaker 21: that plane.

1238
00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:27,479
Speaker 2: All right, go well, nice to seek a prime Minister.

1239
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 2: Christaph lacksan thirteen to wait the costume breakfast where it

1240
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 2: is ten minutes away from Mike. Despite the fact to

1241
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 2: give lux in a relatively tough time, you must acknowledge

1242
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:41,000
Speaker 2: he at least answers the questions and of course Australia

1243
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:43,600
Speaker 2: can do what we like or what they like. Yeah, no,

1244
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:45,520
Speaker 2: you're one hundred percent correct. There's no way around it.

1245
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:47,880
Speaker 2: Common sense Mike from New Zealand is to a dentifying

1246
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:49,200
Speaker 2: the five zero ones that are still in prison. You

1247
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 2: can understand many of them aren't now they boot them

1248
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:54,239
Speaker 2: out for reasons less than prison sentences and rescind their

1249
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:57,360
Speaker 2: New Zealand citizenship. John, you can't rescind the person's citizenship

1250
00:55:57,400 --> 00:56:00,560
Speaker 2: because you've become a stateless person. And we've signed up

1251
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:04,720
Speaker 2: to United Nations declarations that say that you're not allowed

1252
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 2: to make a person stateless. The Began case in Britain

1253
00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:09,399
Speaker 2: is a very good example of that. Speaking of the UN,

1254
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 2: they've just voted the Security Council for a ceasefire. So

1255
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 2: that's the end of the war. Congratulations to the United Nations.

1256
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:16,839
Speaker 2: I'm surprised they didn't think, oh hold on, they did

1257
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:20,080
Speaker 2: think about that earlier. And as far as the jury

1258
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:23,239
Speaker 2: is concerned in the Hunter Biden case, didn't take long

1259
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:26,320
Speaker 2: in the Trump case. One suspects it's not going to

1260
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:28,239
Speaker 2: take very long in the Hunter Biden case because there

1261
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:31,240
Speaker 2: doesn't appear to be a tremendous amount of conflicting information.

1262
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:35,879
Speaker 2: He's on drugs, he had a gun, the form wasn't

1263
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:37,920
Speaker 2: correctly filled out, and that, as far as I can

1264
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:38,560
Speaker 2: work out.

1265
00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:38,640
Speaker 4: Is.

1266
00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:41,920
Speaker 2: Against the law. And I think they'll probably come to

1267
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:44,200
Speaker 2: that conclusion and we'll just see how long it takes them.

1268
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:46,759
Speaker 2: Having said that, excuse me, I don't subscribe to the

1269
00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:49,239
Speaker 2: argument this is in any way shape or form is

1270
00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:54,280
Speaker 2: going to play into the campaign. The dealings and trials

1271
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:57,680
Speaker 2: and tribulations of your children are not a vote swinger.

1272
00:56:57,760 --> 00:56:59,000
Speaker 2: As far as I can work out, if you're going

1273
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:00,279
Speaker 2: to vote for jo Biden, you're going to vote for

1274
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:02,120
Speaker 2: Joe Biden. You're not suddenly not going to vote for

1275
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:04,800
Speaker 2: Joe Biden because his son hunters a bit of a reprobate?

1276
00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:05,759
Speaker 2: Or am I wrong?

1277
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:10,640
Speaker 3: In that eight to eight mistle breakfast, Where's r News

1278
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:11,360
Speaker 3: talk said.

1279
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:13,600
Speaker 2: Farms away from it? Mike Granton to view with the

1280
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 2: EPSOM patroller. I'm a patroller in Howick and Pakerenger also

1281
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:19,439
Speaker 2: in Auckland. Thanks for promoting patrolling only four hours a month.

1282
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:21,960
Speaker 2: It's not bad, is it? And we make a difference. Well,

1283
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 2: I'm very pleased to hear it. Mike, where'd you get

1284
00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:26,000
Speaker 2: that info on the teacher only day set by the MOE.

1285
00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:28,480
Speaker 2: I'm not sure about that. Well, I am because a

1286
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:30,560
Speaker 2: lot of people at a recent one we all went, well,

1287
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:32,920
Speaker 2: what the hell, how come everyone's into a long weekend?

1288
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:34,800
Speaker 2: And the principle put out a note saying it is

1289
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:37,960
Speaker 2: not us, it is the Ministry of Education, and the

1290
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:39,800
Speaker 2: principle I know would not make that stuff up.

1291
00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:40,680
Speaker 3: Mike.

1292
00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:43,400
Speaker 2: Given all the challenges our schools and teachers are facing,

1293
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:45,600
Speaker 2: I'd like to shout up my son's rugby coach is

1294
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:48,440
Speaker 2: also the deputy principal of the college. His professionalism and

1295
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:50,680
Speaker 2: focus on teamwork and improving skills as an example to

1296
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:52,960
Speaker 2: everyone's a very good point you make. There's far too

1297
00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 2: much negativity in the media in general, and I cited

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Speaker 2: the RAM raids stats out this morning. Go on, look

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Speaker 2: around the media today, Go and look at look. Go

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Speaker 2: find me how much coverage is given to the eighty

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Speaker 2: percent drop in the RAM rates. Couldn't get on, couldn't

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Speaker 2: get into it enough when it was bad, But you

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Speaker 2: look at it today and said, tell me where the

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Speaker 2: good news is, Mike. I agree with you. Relief teaching

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Speaker 2: jobs are available everywhere across a wide range of schools. However,

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Speaker 2: this is the part I didn't know. However, your wages

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Speaker 2: are kepped at step seven, so a teacher with ten

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Speaker 2: years plus experience who should be on step ten receives

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Speaker 2: a lot less pader than they would normally.

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Speaker 21: Why is that?

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Speaker 2: Is that a union based thing? In my experience, the

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Speaker 2: more unionized you are in employment, the more problematic and

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Speaker 2: complicated it becomes. And if that is true, and good

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Speaker 2: people aren't doing relief work because they're not being paid properly,

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Speaker 2: then surely the answer is reasonably obvious, isn't it. Mike.

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00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:45,800
Speaker 2: These investigations are so late and so weak. It's almost

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Speaker 2: like no one wants to find the Mari Party did

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Speaker 2: something wrong where we don't know they did because they

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Speaker 2: deny it. Of course, I think we got a good

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Speaker 2: clarification to the Prime Minister. It was relayed certainly by

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Speaker 2: some people yesterday that what the Prime Minister was announcing

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Speaker 2: was an all encompassing sort of inquiry. It isn't. It's

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00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:02,480
Speaker 2: just plea into government departments, which is not the really

1324
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:05,360
Speaker 2: angsty edgy. But we need to get to the bottom

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Speaker 2: of is it. That's where the police come in.

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Speaker 1: Of course, your trusted source for News and Fuse, the

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Speaker 1: Mic Hosking Breakfast with Jaguar, the Art of Performance News Talks.

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Speaker 3: Head be.

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Speaker 2: It texted referring me to the ram Raids and the Herald,

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Speaker 2: and I'm looking at the Herald in thea justin section.

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Speaker 2: Ram Raids down eighty percent compared with the same time

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Speaker 2: last year, published seven four. Who's listening in Hey, it

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00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:40,960
Speaker 2: is seven minutes past seven. Chelsea Handler's on our way back.

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Speaker 2: Chelsea likely big news for her. Of course, They've been

1335
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Speaker 2: the Netflix shows over the years. The latest stand up

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Speaker 2: as a thing called Little Big Bitch Tour and Chelsea

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00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:50,600
Speaker 2: Handler is with us from New York. Good morning, Oh,

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Speaker 2: good morning to you.

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Speaker 13: So nice to speak with you again.

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00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:55,120
Speaker 2: And not at all and heading back our way looking

1341
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Speaker 2: forward to it. I'm assuming.

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Speaker 13: Yes, you're assuming correct. I wouldn't return if I didn't

1343
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Speaker 13: love it so much.

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01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:05,080
Speaker 2: No, that's true the tour itself. Funnily enough, I talked

1345
01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:08,120
Speaker 2: to Jerry Seinfeld the other day, and what I didn't

1346
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:10,960
Speaker 2: realize about his tour is it was already on the road,

1347
01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:12,560
Speaker 2: so I was trying to get a vibe about what

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01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:14,120
Speaker 2: sort of show he had and whether it was going

1349
01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:16,080
Speaker 2: to work, and whether he knew it. Your show's already

1350
01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:18,160
Speaker 2: on the road, so you'll have some feedback so far

1351
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:19,320
Speaker 2: as to what you're bringing here.

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01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:24,160
Speaker 13: Right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yes, I have a set that

1353
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Speaker 13: I do, so.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, how's it going.

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Speaker 13: How's it going? It's going pretty well. If I'm coming

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Speaker 13: to New Zealand.

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Speaker 22: I've been on tour for a while because I don't

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01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:38,240
Speaker 22: have to fill my Netflix special for this tour until

1359
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Speaker 22: the end of the year, and I was like, oh, well,

1360
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Speaker 22: let me take this on the road because it's I've

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Speaker 22: got this whole year, and you know, I love to

1362
01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:47,240
Speaker 22: visit these places and come back and see people and

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Speaker 22: meet people up close and personal. It's just a different,

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01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:54,760
Speaker 22: you know, different level of travel fun. So yeah, I'm

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01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:55,880
Speaker 22: looking forward to coming back.

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Speaker 2: Does it go down differently depending on where you are?

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Speaker 13: No, I mean a little bit, but not really.

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Speaker 22: I mean, we're all human beings and if you I mean,

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Speaker 22: if you're coming to see me, you probably know me,

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Speaker 22: so you know what to expect.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 13: It's not like I'm introducing myself to people all the time.

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Speaker 13: So it's kind of like I have a reputation.

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Speaker 2: What's your yes, you do, what's your vibe? In terms

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Speaker 2: of how easy, good fun it is to be a

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Speaker 2: comedian in a place like America at the moment, which

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Speaker 2: appears from the side of the world to be an

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Speaker 2: angsty old arrangement.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, America's pretty rough these days.

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Speaker 22: It's pretty hard pill to swallow being in this country

1381
01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:37,120
Speaker 22: thinking of all the you know, it's pretty ugly. So

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Speaker 22: I choose to smoke a lot of cannabis and travel

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Speaker 22: as much as I can out of the country. Tomorrow

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Speaker 22: I leave for Spain for one month. I'm coming to

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Speaker 22: New Zealand, I'm going to Australia. I'm doing a lot

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Speaker 22: of anything to get out of this country. So we'll

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Speaker 22: see what happens in November. But yeah, it's looking pretty grim.

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Speaker 22: I think this might it might be a wrap on America.

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01:01:58,200 --> 01:02:01,320
Speaker 22: Like I think the experiment is probably close to ending,

1390
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Speaker 22: you know, this democratic experiment.

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Speaker 13: It feels like that. I mean, I can tell you

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Speaker 13: it feels like that.

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Speaker 22: I have a house in Spain and Canada because I

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Speaker 22: think that's going to happen and I'm going to have

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Speaker 22: to become like a Canadian news anchor at some point.

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Speaker 13: In my career.

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Speaker 2: Would you choose Canada or Spine?

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Speaker 22: Great question, I mean my Spanish keeps getting better every year.

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Speaker 22: I'm going tomorrow for a month, so it's going to

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Speaker 22: get even better. If I could speak fluent Spanish, I

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Speaker 22: think I would be like, you know what the thing is,

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Speaker 22: I love to ski. I love to ski naked, and

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Speaker 22: you've probably seen that. And skiing is a real part

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Speaker 22: of who I am. So I love to be in Canada.

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Speaker 13: But Spain and the Spanish people like.

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Speaker 22: There's never going to be a war in Spain, Like

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Speaker 22: they don't fight with anyone, and everyone takes, you know,

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Speaker 22: naps in the middle of the daytime, they eat at

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Speaker 22: ten o'clock at night.

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Speaker 13: I just that's a vibe I can get down with.

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Speaker 7: I like it.

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Speaker 2: But you count ski niked and spine, can you?

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01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:55,400
Speaker 22: Oh no, I'd have to bring my own snow, and

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01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:57,800
Speaker 22: with global warming, that's getting more and more difficult to do.

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Speaker 2: Does it be able to lose it's through skiing naked.

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Speaker 22: No, it's invigorating for a female from a woman to

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01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:07,160
Speaker 22: have your Yeah, it feels awesome.

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Speaker 13: I feel like a badass when I do that. And

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Speaker 13: it's not that cold either. I think the adrenaline kind

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Speaker 13: of keeps you.

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Speaker 2: Warm, right, and so even when your face plant will

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01:03:14,760 --> 01:03:15,680
Speaker 2: fall over and stuff like that.

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01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:19,040
Speaker 13: It's you know, base plan fall over. Have you seen

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Speaker 13: me ski?

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Speaker 3: I'm not fine.

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Speaker 2: And every now and again you hit an icy patch

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Speaker 2: or whatever and you go for the snowplow and the

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Speaker 2: skis cross. You know how it goes. It doesn't matter

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Speaker 2: how good you are.

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Speaker 13: No one that could a snow plowing. So that's your

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Speaker 13: first mistake.

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Speaker 2: All right, listen, hold on there, We'll get just a moment.

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Speaker 2: Chelsea Handler out of New York eleven past eight.

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Speaker 3: The mic Hosking Breakfast sent me fourteen.

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Speaker 2: Past eight, Chelsea Handler on her way back to the

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Speaker 2: country with her new to A Little Big Bitch. I'll

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Speaker 2: give you the dates in just a couple of moments. Now, listen.

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Speaker 2: As far as I was watching looking at you on

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01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:51,560
Speaker 2: social media the other day, right, and you had some

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01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:55,440
Speaker 2: protests at one of your show, this whole Israel anti Palestine,

1441
01:03:55,480 --> 01:03:58,080
Speaker 2: pro Palestine thing going on. Is it an angsty old

1442
01:03:58,160 --> 01:03:59,760
Speaker 2: time at the moment to be a comedian.

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Speaker 13: I mean, it doesn't have an It won't never have

1444
01:04:01,720 --> 01:04:03,760
Speaker 13: an impact on me not performing.

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01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:06,840
Speaker 22: It happened one at one show and they were removed

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01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:09,560
Speaker 22: and it was disruptive, but the show went on. And

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01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:13,120
Speaker 22: I would always carry on because I'm a professional and

1448
01:04:14,120 --> 01:04:15,560
Speaker 22: you know that that's all you can do.

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01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:19,080
Speaker 13: And I understand people are upset. I'm upset too, everyone's upset.

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01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:21,280
Speaker 13: It's not a happy time about any of this.

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01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:25,560
Speaker 22: So it just doesn't feel like, uh, you know, it's

1452
01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:27,480
Speaker 22: just not an issue that you can even discuss.

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01:04:27,800 --> 01:04:27,840
Speaker 16: No.

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01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:33,000
Speaker 2: How does unhappiness though dovetail into being comedic? Does it help?

1455
01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:33,480
Speaker 3: Does it?

1456
01:04:33,560 --> 01:04:35,880
Speaker 2: Hinda, I'm not unhappy.

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01:04:36,040 --> 01:04:36,880
Speaker 13: I'm pretty happy.

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01:04:37,040 --> 01:04:39,360
Speaker 22: So you have to ask, like more male comedians seem

1459
01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:42,720
Speaker 22: more unhappy to me? I would ask them because I

1460
01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:46,120
Speaker 22: feel like female comedians aren't as nearly as lugubrious as

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01:04:46,200 --> 01:04:50,000
Speaker 22: male comedians. Good female comedians are like they're they're I mean,

1462
01:04:50,040 --> 01:04:52,280
Speaker 22: they can be depressed, but male comedians can be.

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01:04:52,520 --> 01:04:56,000
Speaker 13: Very very depressed. And then and then that's like a

1464
01:04:56,120 --> 01:04:59,000
Speaker 13: dark energy. I want to like pass high vibes around,

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01:04:59,080 --> 01:04:59,520
Speaker 13: you know what I mean.

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Speaker 22: I want peop want to come to my show, leave

1467
01:05:01,560 --> 01:05:03,440
Speaker 22: and having forgotten whatever the.

1468
01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:06,000
Speaker 13: Was annoying them that day in their life.

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Speaker 14: You know.

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01:05:07,720 --> 01:05:10,240
Speaker 22: I want to spread joy, laughter and sunshine, Like that's

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01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:11,120
Speaker 22: my vibe right now.

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01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:13,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And that's and that's good. But a lot

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01:05:13,120 --> 01:05:16,240
Speaker 2: of comedians say that same thing, but people can't get

1474
01:05:16,320 --> 01:05:18,600
Speaker 2: past that, you know, they it's like that Lon this look,

1475
01:05:18,680 --> 01:05:21,920
Speaker 2: it's it's just Ricky Devis. It's just humor. It's just

1476
01:05:22,080 --> 01:05:24,720
Speaker 2: a joke. Don't take it seriously. But the fact he's

1477
01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:26,600
Speaker 2: got to say that and you say it, it means

1478
01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:29,080
Speaker 2: that you, you know, people aren't like that, they can't

1479
01:05:29,120 --> 01:05:30,440
Speaker 2: get on board with your vibe.

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01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:35,920
Speaker 22: Well, I mean, I feel like enough people are on

1481
01:05:36,040 --> 01:05:38,240
Speaker 22: board with my vibe. I don't have to I'm not

1482
01:05:38,520 --> 01:05:40,720
Speaker 22: I'm not worried about the people who disagree with me.

1483
01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:45,080
Speaker 22: But I'm not against having people set parameters about what

1484
01:05:45,120 --> 01:05:47,360
Speaker 22: you're about to say, what you're allowed to say, or

1485
01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:47,919
Speaker 22: what's going.

1486
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Speaker 13: To be frowned upon.

1487
01:05:48,760 --> 01:05:51,360
Speaker 22: Like I know men are, and primarily a lot of

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01:05:51,440 --> 01:05:53,480
Speaker 22: men are, but I'm not like, if you want to say,

1489
01:05:53,560 --> 01:05:56,480
Speaker 22: I can't make fun of, you know, different cultures because

1490
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Speaker 22: that's insensitive.

1491
01:05:57,760 --> 01:06:01,360
Speaker 13: Okay, that's fair to judge what's.

1492
01:06:01,360 --> 01:06:04,200
Speaker 22: Sensitive to another person and based on their culture, Like

1493
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Speaker 22: I don't have an issue with that. And also, it's

1494
01:06:06,680 --> 01:06:09,360
Speaker 22: a good challenge as a comedian or as any artist

1495
01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:12,640
Speaker 22: to have to work within boundaries and challenge yourself to

1496
01:06:12,720 --> 01:06:16,040
Speaker 22: not think of the lowest common denominator, but perhaps focus,

1497
01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:18,600
Speaker 22: refocus that energy back on yourself and make a joke

1498
01:06:18,600 --> 01:06:22,720
Speaker 22: about yourself first, you know, start within, Like with everything,

1499
01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:23,360
Speaker 22: start within.

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Speaker 13: It's the same in comedy.

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Speaker 2: It very well said. It's a very good point too.

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01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:28,560
Speaker 2: You mentioned Netflix in Mima Ago. I saw you funnily

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01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:31,520
Speaker 2: enough on Netflix, the Kevin Hot the mock Twain thing,

1504
01:06:31,680 --> 01:06:34,880
Speaker 2: and you were in Bold And then his Netflix strikes me.

1505
01:06:34,960 --> 01:06:37,000
Speaker 2: And it's not just him, Streaming generally strikes me as

1506
01:06:37,040 --> 01:06:40,480
Speaker 2: having been fantastically good for the comedic community.

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01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:45,520
Speaker 13: Oh yeah, well, Ted Surrandos loves comedians. He loves comics.

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01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:47,520
Speaker 22: I mean, we just have the Netflix as a joke

1509
01:06:47,600 --> 01:06:50,040
Speaker 22: festival in la and I did a show for it.

1510
01:06:50,160 --> 01:06:51,240
Speaker 22: Everyone did a show for it.

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Speaker 13: They have like so many comedians, they buy out all

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Speaker 13: these venues.

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01:06:55,240 --> 01:06:58,000
Speaker 22: It was so over the top, but they created like

1514
01:06:58,080 --> 01:07:00,880
Speaker 22: a total festival vibe the end of the week, like

1515
01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:03,320
Speaker 22: you had been to like eighty different events. I mean

1516
01:07:03,360 --> 01:07:07,000
Speaker 22: it felt exhausting, but you know, also really like kind

1517
01:07:07,040 --> 01:07:09,360
Speaker 22: of electric. You're like, oh, this is a comedy festival,

1518
01:07:09,440 --> 01:07:13,160
Speaker 22: like created one in the last five years basically, and

1519
01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:14,280
Speaker 22: it allows.

1520
01:07:13,920 --> 01:07:15,640
Speaker 2: You to get to an audience you might not have

1521
01:07:15,720 --> 01:07:18,040
Speaker 2: been able to, and because it's streaming, you can say

1522
01:07:18,080 --> 01:07:20,520
Speaker 2: a bunch of stuff. Because I saw Dave Chappelle's piece

1523
01:07:20,520 --> 01:07:22,520
Speaker 2: the other day. Have you seen that his latest Netflix ling.

1524
01:07:24,080 --> 01:07:24,840
Speaker 13: No, I haven't.

1525
01:07:24,920 --> 01:07:27,000
Speaker 2: It's very good. I'm not a Dave Chappelle fan on

1526
01:07:27,080 --> 01:07:28,960
Speaker 2: They A Walls, but but I think I am now

1527
01:07:29,040 --> 01:07:30,840
Speaker 2: because it was very cleverly constructed. I thought it was

1528
01:07:30,920 --> 01:07:33,840
Speaker 2: very very funny. Anyway, the point being that in terms

1529
01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:36,920
Speaker 2: of streaming, you can say whatever you like and get

1530
01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:39,360
Speaker 2: your message out there and people get to understand who

1531
01:07:39,440 --> 01:07:41,240
Speaker 2: you are and what you're about. And that's no bad thing,

1532
01:07:41,360 --> 01:07:41,520
Speaker 2: is it.

1533
01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:43,000
Speaker 8: No?

1534
01:07:43,280 --> 01:07:43,880
Speaker 13: No, it's great.

1535
01:07:43,920 --> 01:07:47,160
Speaker 22: I mean Netflix gives all comedians anyone on that platform

1536
01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:47,960
Speaker 22: the platform.

1537
01:07:48,040 --> 01:07:49,360
Speaker 13: It's the biggest platform.

1538
01:07:49,040 --> 01:07:52,160
Speaker 22: There is, so it's really like they've competed, like they've

1539
01:07:52,240 --> 01:07:55,560
Speaker 22: created like almost a non compete zone. You know, that's

1540
01:07:55,600 --> 01:07:57,120
Speaker 22: where you want to be because that's why also where

1541
01:07:57,120 --> 01:07:58,200
Speaker 22: the audience is going to watch.

1542
01:07:58,240 --> 01:07:58,920
Speaker 13: They're specials.

1543
01:07:59,200 --> 01:08:02,200
Speaker 22: I did a special Max, my first special back to

1544
01:08:02,240 --> 01:08:04,120
Speaker 22: stand up like five years ago, and then I did

1545
01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:05,880
Speaker 22: a special on Netflix, and now I'm.

1546
01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:07,960
Speaker 13: Doing my second special on Netflix. Because you can see

1547
01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:09,400
Speaker 13: the difference, Well, the.

1548
01:08:09,680 --> 01:08:11,120
Speaker 2: Talk show thing that you've been involved in.

1549
01:08:11,320 --> 01:08:11,800
Speaker 3: Is that fun?

1550
01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:12,800
Speaker 2: Is that worth doing?

1551
01:08:14,360 --> 01:08:15,640
Speaker 13: I don't do one now, so I know.

1552
01:08:16,120 --> 01:08:18,240
Speaker 2: I mean you have as a thing as a stand

1553
01:08:18,320 --> 01:08:21,120
Speaker 2: up versus a talk shows, a book of whatever, it's

1554
01:08:21,120 --> 01:08:21,639
Speaker 2: a grind.

1555
01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:24,120
Speaker 13: It can be a grind. I mean, it's very exciting

1556
01:08:24,200 --> 01:08:26,719
Speaker 13: and it's very new. So every day you're talking about

1557
01:08:26,800 --> 01:08:30,559
Speaker 13: new things. That's exciting for me. That was a great

1558
01:08:30,600 --> 01:08:31,360
Speaker 13: time in my life.

1559
01:08:31,439 --> 01:08:34,519
Speaker 22: But like for now, like I like, like I don't

1560
01:08:34,640 --> 01:08:36,960
Speaker 22: like to be having to be in the same place

1561
01:08:37,160 --> 01:08:40,240
Speaker 22: every day. I like to be around the world, and like,

1562
01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:43,360
Speaker 22: you know, I do my podcast from my Orca. I

1563
01:08:43,400 --> 01:08:45,240
Speaker 22: can do my podcast in London. I could do my

1564
01:08:45,320 --> 01:08:48,439
Speaker 22: podcast wherever. I write my books. I just you know,

1565
01:08:48,840 --> 01:08:51,160
Speaker 22: finished my seventh book. I write my books wherever I

1566
01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:53,160
Speaker 22: am in the world, and I can do stand up

1567
01:08:53,200 --> 01:08:55,240
Speaker 22: anywhere in the world. It's like, I kind of feel

1568
01:08:55,320 --> 01:08:58,679
Speaker 22: like I found the best thing to live my life

1569
01:08:58,760 --> 01:08:59,400
Speaker 22: to the fullest.

1570
01:08:59,479 --> 01:08:59,600
Speaker 4: You know.

1571
01:08:59,680 --> 01:09:01,439
Speaker 13: I get to ski three months out of the year.

1572
01:09:02,040 --> 01:09:05,719
Speaker 13: I'm crushing it. Like you know, on a spiritual level,

1573
01:09:05,920 --> 01:09:09,080
Speaker 13: I'm like, is this faradic? I really hope this is

1574
01:09:09,160 --> 01:09:11,760
Speaker 13: my last life because I'm like, I'm so spoiled. I

1575
01:09:11,800 --> 01:09:12,720
Speaker 13: don't want to come back.

1576
01:09:12,880 --> 01:09:15,400
Speaker 2: Oh that's fantastic. I'm so glad you're enjoying that. The

1577
01:09:16,520 --> 01:09:18,640
Speaker 2: hard lemonade, the two things I didn't know about you

1578
01:09:19,080 --> 01:09:20,760
Speaker 2: is the hard lemonade story real.

1579
01:09:22,160 --> 01:09:24,760
Speaker 22: I started a hard lemonade stand when I was eight

1580
01:09:24,840 --> 01:09:26,639
Speaker 22: years old because I knew that was going to yield

1581
01:09:26,800 --> 01:09:27,719
Speaker 22: much better profits.

1582
01:09:27,840 --> 01:09:28,400
Speaker 2: That's brilliant.

1583
01:09:28,479 --> 01:09:31,760
Speaker 22: And I served gin whiskey and tequiola to not only

1584
01:09:31,840 --> 01:09:34,639
Speaker 22: the adults, but anyone over ten, because obviously I wasn't

1585
01:09:34,680 --> 01:09:35,880
Speaker 22: completely irresponsible.

1586
01:09:36,080 --> 01:09:38,519
Speaker 2: And the first class story, the first class ticket story,

1587
01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:39,080
Speaker 2: that's true too.

1588
01:09:40,080 --> 01:09:41,080
Speaker 13: Yeah, that's a true story.

1589
01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:42,640
Speaker 22: I bought my own first class ticket when I was

1590
01:09:42,680 --> 01:09:44,840
Speaker 22: thirteen years old, after I saved up money from my

1591
01:09:45,040 --> 01:09:48,160
Speaker 22: hardly hard lemonade stand and babysitting empire that I also

1592
01:09:48,240 --> 01:09:51,519
Speaker 22: started where I spent where I spent one summer as

1593
01:09:51,560 --> 01:09:54,000
Speaker 22: a ten year old posing as a fifteen year old

1594
01:09:54,240 --> 01:09:56,360
Speaker 22: babysitting for a fourteen year old boy.

1595
01:09:56,680 --> 01:09:57,400
Speaker 2: That's too cool.

1596
01:09:57,560 --> 01:09:57,920
Speaker 4: I love.

1597
01:09:58,000 --> 01:10:00,680
Speaker 2: That is The Vigas Residency arted yet or not?

1598
01:10:01,880 --> 01:10:05,080
Speaker 13: No Vegas Residency. I just announced we are starting.

1599
01:10:05,320 --> 01:10:08,599
Speaker 22: I did one show a month at the Cosmopolitan at

1600
01:10:08,640 --> 01:10:11,920
Speaker 22: the inside the Chelsea Theater, so again.

1601
01:10:11,800 --> 01:10:14,479
Speaker 13: I'm inside myself. I do it once a month and

1602
01:10:14,560 --> 01:10:17,840
Speaker 13: it starts September first on Labor Day weekend. So that's

1603
01:10:17,920 --> 01:10:18,439
Speaker 13: pretty fun.

1604
01:10:18,800 --> 01:10:22,080
Speaker 2: Explain to me the residency thing. So the once a

1605
01:10:22,160 --> 01:10:23,880
Speaker 2: month thing strikes me as good because there are some

1606
01:10:23,960 --> 01:10:26,240
Speaker 2: people in residency that do it like seven days a week,

1607
01:10:26,320 --> 01:10:27,920
Speaker 2: and you do a matine on a Saturday, and I

1608
01:10:27,960 --> 01:10:29,200
Speaker 2: think you've got to be kidding me. Yeah, I mean,

1609
01:10:29,240 --> 01:10:32,400
Speaker 2: how boring could this be? So the residency people want

1610
01:10:32,479 --> 01:10:35,000
Speaker 2: to come and see you as opposed to get drunk

1611
01:10:35,040 --> 01:10:38,400
Speaker 2: and they're just playing roulette and wander into the room

1612
01:10:38,439 --> 01:10:40,080
Speaker 2: and you happen to be there, and therefore they don't

1613
01:10:40,080 --> 01:10:41,360
Speaker 2: appreciate what you're delivering.

1614
01:10:43,400 --> 01:10:43,560
Speaker 4: Is that?

1615
01:10:43,800 --> 01:10:44,519
Speaker 13: What's the question?

1616
01:10:44,680 --> 01:10:46,639
Speaker 2: Well, the question is are they drunk and playing roulette

1617
01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:48,360
Speaker 2: and wandering in to see you or are they actually

1618
01:10:48,439 --> 01:10:51,280
Speaker 2: come out to see you because you're a Chelsea handler

1619
01:10:51,280 --> 01:10:52,439
Speaker 2: and you're a show worth watching.

1620
01:10:53,360 --> 01:10:55,080
Speaker 22: You have to buy the tickets, you know what I mean,

1621
01:10:55,120 --> 01:10:58,439
Speaker 22: and you wandering so you have to have some intention

1622
01:10:58,600 --> 01:10:59,000
Speaker 22: about it.

1623
01:11:00,200 --> 01:11:02,960
Speaker 2: Good on, you will listen when are you coming here?

1624
01:11:03,040 --> 01:11:04,840
Speaker 2: You might be able to get some skiing done here

1625
01:11:05,400 --> 01:11:07,320
Speaker 2: in the middle of the year because winter's just arriving.

1626
01:11:07,400 --> 01:11:09,280
Speaker 2: The snow's about to fall in the next month or so,

1627
01:11:09,640 --> 01:11:11,439
Speaker 2: and there are some serious slopes in this part of

1628
01:11:11,479 --> 01:11:11,760
Speaker 2: the world.

1629
01:11:12,960 --> 01:11:15,439
Speaker 13: July fo it I believe July fourth? Shall I fifth?

1630
01:11:15,640 --> 01:11:18,120
Speaker 13: I think somewhere that sounds right?

1631
01:11:18,479 --> 01:11:20,040
Speaker 2: It could be good. And you you have a squ

1632
01:11:20,560 --> 01:11:22,280
Speaker 2: skid Queenstown, Wonica.

1633
01:11:22,760 --> 01:11:24,320
Speaker 13: No, I've never skied there.

1634
01:11:24,760 --> 01:11:28,200
Speaker 2: Yep, you haven't lived. You might be crushing it, but

1635
01:11:28,280 --> 01:11:30,599
Speaker 2: you haven't lived until you've skied queens Down or Wanaka.

1636
01:11:31,720 --> 01:11:33,000
Speaker 13: Then I'll have to get that done.

1637
01:11:33,280 --> 01:11:35,439
Speaker 2: Fantastic, lovely to see you look forward to catching up

1638
01:11:35,439 --> 01:11:37,760
Speaker 2: when you're in the country and go, well, okay, you

1639
01:11:37,880 --> 01:11:39,880
Speaker 2: go well too. All right, there we go, Chelsea Handler.

1640
01:11:39,920 --> 01:11:42,280
Speaker 2: I'll give you the official dates in just a couple

1641
01:11:42,320 --> 01:11:43,400
Speaker 2: of months, say twenty two.

1642
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Speaker 2: Handler July five, July six, Wellington and Auckland, if you

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Speaker 2: wanted to go Mike at the allegations against the party

1663
01:12:53,760 --> 01:12:56,559
Speaker 2: Mari turn out to be true? Is there any comeback

1664
01:12:56,600 --> 01:12:58,680
Speaker 2: on the elected member or does she just become a

1665
01:12:58,760 --> 01:13:02,840
Speaker 2: Clayton's MP. Well, it's a multifaceted answer to the question.

1666
01:13:03,080 --> 01:13:06,360
Speaker 2: It depends on what anybody finds, whether or not the

1667
01:13:06,479 --> 01:13:09,120
Speaker 2: rules have been broken or the law's been broken. If

1668
01:13:09,160 --> 01:13:12,280
Speaker 2: the police find law's been broken, then potential charges are laid.

1669
01:13:12,720 --> 01:13:16,360
Speaker 2: Potential charges are laid, not necessarily against the MP themselves.

1670
01:13:16,439 --> 01:13:18,840
Speaker 2: It could well be against a party member who may

1671
01:13:18,960 --> 01:13:21,600
Speaker 2: or may not be an MP. It then depends if

1672
01:13:21,640 --> 01:13:24,560
Speaker 2: it's against the MP, what the whether you get a

1673
01:13:24,600 --> 01:13:27,479
Speaker 2: guilty or not guilty, of course, and what the sentence is.

1674
01:13:27,600 --> 01:13:29,120
Speaker 2: And there are rules around whether or not you can

1675
01:13:29,160 --> 01:13:31,240
Speaker 2: be an MP on certain sentences and length of time

1676
01:13:31,280 --> 01:13:33,080
Speaker 2: in jail, et cetera. Not that I think that it's

1677
01:13:33,120 --> 01:13:36,280
Speaker 2: going to get anywhere near this, but nevertheless, that's what

1678
01:13:36,360 --> 01:13:40,360
Speaker 2: happens on rules. I suspect, Unfortunately, nothing really happens that

1679
01:13:40,400 --> 01:13:42,040
Speaker 2: we are a bit of a well we didn't realize this,

1680
01:13:42,280 --> 01:13:43,920
Speaker 2: or this didn't work very well, or there's a bit

1681
01:13:43,920 --> 01:13:46,639
Speaker 2: of systemic failure over here, and I'll promise to tidy

1682
01:13:46,760 --> 01:13:49,080
Speaker 2: up and it will never happen again until it happens

1683
01:13:49,080 --> 01:13:51,519
Speaker 2: again next time. So you've got a number of strands there.

1684
01:13:51,520 --> 01:13:53,800
Speaker 2: You've got the rules versus the laws. The police are

1685
01:13:53,880 --> 01:13:55,839
Speaker 2: in charge of the laws, and the various government departments,

1686
01:13:55,880 --> 01:13:58,880
Speaker 2: including the Privacy Commissioner, they're in charge of the rules,

1687
01:13:59,000 --> 01:14:02,120
Speaker 2: so a lot of to go under that particular bridge.

1688
01:14:02,320 --> 01:14:03,719
Speaker 2: Stand by for Rod Liddle.

1689
01:14:05,160 --> 01:14:08,479
Speaker 3: Setting the news agenda and digging into the issues. The

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Speaker 3: Mic Hosking.

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Speaker 1: Breakfast with Bailey's real estate altogether better across residential, commercial,

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Speaker 1: and rural.

1693
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Speaker 3: On news talks, ed be well.

1694
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Speaker 2: He might. Do you think these Chinese meetings coming up

1695
01:14:18,880 --> 01:14:20,920
Speaker 2: for Luckxnce time to shine? He's a little clunky with

1696
01:14:20,960 --> 01:14:23,280
Speaker 2: the political games that go on, but he's a businessman.

1697
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Speaker 2: I'm a first year fifty to fifty sheer milker, so

1698
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Speaker 2: if he could get some Chinese deals done, I'd be

1699
01:14:28,320 --> 01:14:30,439
Speaker 2: more than happy. Thank you, Dan, and good luck with

1700
01:14:30,479 --> 01:14:33,000
Speaker 2: all of that. And China's on the way back, not

1701
01:14:33,040 --> 01:14:34,840
Speaker 2: in the big way yet, but they're on the way back.

1702
01:14:34,880 --> 01:14:38,800
Speaker 2: The latest economic numbers I see look to show some

1703
01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:42,320
Speaker 2: sort of growth this year. Just back from California, might

1704
01:14:42,360 --> 01:14:44,680
Speaker 2: we're my nine year old grandson and has mate had

1705
01:14:44,680 --> 01:14:47,840
Speaker 2: a prime slushy stand on the street. They sold them

1706
01:14:47,880 --> 01:14:52,040
Speaker 2: for four bucks, and oriols and rice crackers bars for

1707
01:14:52,120 --> 01:14:54,320
Speaker 2: a buck each. They ended up with about four hundred

1708
01:14:54,320 --> 01:14:56,360
Speaker 2: dollars after cost, got one hundred and forty five each.

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Speaker 2: Not bad for four hours work. I'd take that work

1710
01:14:58,920 --> 01:15:00,040
Speaker 2: twenty two minutes away from.

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Speaker 15: On international correspondence with ins andn Eye Insurance Peace of

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Speaker 15: Mind for New Zealand.

1713
01:15:05,280 --> 01:15:07,920
Speaker 2: Business campaign time in the UK, Rob Little morning mate.

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01:15:08,120 --> 01:15:09,400
Speaker 23: Good morning to you mate.

1715
01:15:09,360 --> 01:15:12,400
Speaker 2: Since we last talk. And I'll get your explanation on

1716
01:15:12,439 --> 01:15:15,080
Speaker 2: this because no one else can seemingly explain it. Rishi's

1717
01:15:15,680 --> 01:15:18,680
Speaker 2: in one country for a reasonably important event until he

1718
01:15:18,760 --> 01:15:24,000
Speaker 2: decides to scarper off early. And what brain explosion can

1719
01:15:24,280 --> 01:15:25,760
Speaker 2: lead to something that disastrous.

1720
01:15:26,520 --> 01:15:29,600
Speaker 23: I think he's for it. I think he's not a politician.

1721
01:15:30,280 --> 01:15:34,320
Speaker 23: I think he was caught between wondering whether he should

1722
01:15:34,360 --> 01:15:36,360
Speaker 23: do the right thing or whether he should do what

1723
01:15:36,520 --> 01:15:39,599
Speaker 23: he was being advised by his team, and he ended

1724
01:15:39,680 --> 01:15:43,080
Speaker 23: up coming home and for a period, Mike, I've got

1725
01:15:43,160 --> 01:15:49,200
Speaker 23: to say, over Saturday morning into Sunday afternoon, it looked

1726
01:15:49,360 --> 01:15:52,600
Speaker 23: very much as if you might be standing down. It

1727
01:15:52,800 --> 01:15:57,480
Speaker 23: was a terrible, terrible misjudgment. It's still a terrible misjudgment.

1728
01:15:57,600 --> 01:16:01,360
Speaker 23: It still hangs over him and it's very difficult to

1729
01:16:01,360 --> 01:16:02,640
Speaker 23: see how it can recover from it.

1730
01:16:03,000 --> 01:16:06,400
Speaker 2: No exactly the campaign itself, I'm seeing a lot of

1731
01:16:06,479 --> 01:16:08,599
Speaker 2: money being tossed about the place, or at least promise

1732
01:16:08,640 --> 01:16:11,000
Speaker 2: to be tossed about. Do people pay a great deal

1733
01:16:11,080 --> 01:16:13,200
Speaker 2: attention to that at the moment and add the numbers

1734
01:16:13,240 --> 01:16:15,200
Speaker 2: up to see whether they're real or they just it's

1735
01:16:15,200 --> 01:16:16,320
Speaker 2: a bearrage of promises.

1736
01:16:17,640 --> 01:16:19,639
Speaker 23: What do you think, mate? I don't think they take

1737
01:16:19,760 --> 01:16:23,040
Speaker 23: very much notice of it at all. The latest stuff

1738
01:16:23,040 --> 01:16:25,759
Speaker 23: we've got that the touring manifesto will include tax cuts,

1739
01:16:26,200 --> 01:16:27,880
Speaker 23: but they've been saying that for so long and then

1740
01:16:27,880 --> 01:16:31,040
Speaker 23: I'll time they tried tax cuts under this trust it

1741
01:16:31,160 --> 01:16:35,920
Speaker 23: crashed the economy labor Meanwhile, is the Libdems rather are

1742
01:16:35,960 --> 01:16:38,519
Speaker 23: saying they're going to pour eight billion pounds into the

1743
01:16:38,680 --> 01:16:42,800
Speaker 23: advocating mouth of the NHS. I don't think that will

1744
01:16:42,840 --> 01:16:48,040
Speaker 23: cut much eyes either. So no, I don't think the

1745
01:16:48,160 --> 01:16:52,080
Speaker 23: promises of spending really cut through to the electorate at all.

1746
01:16:52,479 --> 01:16:55,920
Speaker 2: What about Farage and has comments about Rishi This goes

1747
01:16:55,960 --> 01:16:58,240
Speaker 2: back to d Day, But he doesn't understand our culture

1748
01:16:58,360 --> 01:17:00,960
Speaker 2: is this dog whistle? And if it is, is it

1749
01:17:01,120 --> 01:17:02,559
Speaker 2: working a.

1750
01:17:02,760 --> 01:17:06,040
Speaker 23: Little bit of dog whistle? We could give him the

1751
01:17:06,080 --> 01:17:09,839
Speaker 23: benefit of the doubt and suggest that he was genuinely

1752
01:17:09,920 --> 01:17:14,040
Speaker 23: referring to class. But I have never previously heard Nigel,

1753
01:17:15,000 --> 01:17:18,439
Speaker 23: who I know very well, attack people on account of

1754
01:17:18,479 --> 01:17:22,040
Speaker 23: their class. I've never heard that. I have heard him

1755
01:17:22,800 --> 01:17:27,320
Speaker 23: attack people on the basis of their excuse me, of

1756
01:17:27,439 --> 01:17:31,519
Speaker 23: their race. So I think that's what was happening there.

1757
01:17:31,760 --> 01:17:35,120
Speaker 23: That being said, I think it will have fallen on

1758
01:17:35,240 --> 01:17:40,880
Speaker 23: the years of a generally receptive public. You know, whether

1759
01:17:40,960 --> 01:17:43,960
Speaker 23: they get a nuance of it or not, it's another matter.

1760
01:17:44,600 --> 01:17:50,400
Speaker 23: But clearly Richie somehow has a cloth here when it

1761
01:17:50,479 --> 01:17:53,280
Speaker 23: comes to what you ought to do in a certain situation.

1762
01:17:53,880 --> 01:17:56,479
Speaker 23: And Ferras was probably right to call it out the

1763
01:17:56,560 --> 01:17:58,960
Speaker 23: way he called it out, I thought a little bit crass.

1764
01:17:59,120 --> 01:18:01,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, Richie was in a parb and he was busy

1765
01:18:01,840 --> 01:18:03,680
Speaker 2: yet again saying now I'm a leader and I've got

1766
01:18:03,720 --> 01:18:05,240
Speaker 2: a plan and we're going to do all that sort

1767
01:18:05,240 --> 01:18:09,000
Speaker 2: of thing. Have we ruled out a resignation slash coup?

1768
01:18:09,240 --> 01:18:10,920
Speaker 2: Has it got so? Because I've seen some of the

1769
01:18:11,000 --> 01:18:13,679
Speaker 2: polls since we last talked, and even if you even

1770
01:18:13,680 --> 01:18:16,000
Speaker 2: if you give them just a shred of credence, I mean,

1771
01:18:16,040 --> 01:18:18,880
Speaker 2: it looks horrific for the Tories. Have we ruled that

1772
01:18:19,880 --> 01:18:22,600
Speaker 2: for the exactly? Have we ruled out a coup or

1773
01:18:22,680 --> 01:18:24,639
Speaker 2: a rolling or a resignation or something?

1774
01:18:24,920 --> 01:18:27,880
Speaker 23: I don't think we should entirely rule out a coup.

1775
01:18:30,800 --> 01:18:33,360
Speaker 23: I think we should kind of ninety seven percent ruled

1776
01:18:33,400 --> 01:18:36,320
Speaker 23: it out. It's terribly late in the day, and I

1777
01:18:36,520 --> 01:18:39,720
Speaker 23: don't know. I think I think the public knows that

1778
01:18:40,120 --> 01:18:43,840
Speaker 23: they've had too many Conservative Party leaders who they haven't

1779
01:18:43,880 --> 01:18:47,120
Speaker 23: elected themselves, you know, So I think that's in there

1780
01:18:47,160 --> 01:18:51,920
Speaker 23: as well. I think Suela Bravaman talking up Nigel Farage.

1781
01:18:52,640 --> 01:18:56,600
Speaker 23: I think that there are people tilting of this that

1782
01:18:56,880 --> 01:19:00,320
Speaker 23: Richie should go now. But I don't think it's free. Well,

1783
01:19:00,360 --> 01:19:02,479
Speaker 23: we've got three and a half, three and a half

1784
01:19:02,520 --> 01:19:05,320
Speaker 23: weeks ago before the poll. It's just not going to happen.

1785
01:19:05,640 --> 01:19:08,320
Speaker 2: No, do you believe many of the polls, I mean

1786
01:19:08,400 --> 01:19:10,680
Speaker 2: one of them hit them down somewhere between forty and

1787
01:19:10,760 --> 01:19:14,639
Speaker 2: sixty something seats. I mean, just just a ridiculous swin.

1788
01:19:15,600 --> 01:19:17,320
Speaker 23: Well, the problem is we have a first pass of

1789
01:19:17,400 --> 01:19:21,719
Speaker 23: post system, which is why sadly, Mike I am probably

1790
01:19:21,800 --> 01:19:24,840
Speaker 23: not going to be the next Foreign secretary. We have

1791
01:19:24,920 --> 01:19:28,000
Speaker 23: a first pass of post system which does throw up

1792
01:19:28,840 --> 01:19:33,519
Speaker 23: terribly weird results of times. So you remember back in

1793
01:19:33,800 --> 01:19:36,320
Speaker 23: were you probably may not remember, back in nineteen eighty

1794
01:19:36,400 --> 01:19:38,920
Speaker 23: three and eighty seven, you know, the Social Democratic Party,

1795
01:19:39,040 --> 01:19:43,439
Speaker 23: Liberal Democratic Party Alliance got some of about twenty seven

1796
01:19:43,479 --> 01:19:46,040
Speaker 23: percent of the vote, only one percent below Labor, but

1797
01:19:46,120 --> 01:19:49,519
Speaker 23: only got about eight for eight seats, whereas a Labor

1798
01:19:49,560 --> 01:19:53,200
Speaker 23: party got two hundred. You know, we have a very

1799
01:19:53,280 --> 01:19:59,960
Speaker 23: bizarre electoral system which really doesn't work. I think it's

1800
01:20:00,400 --> 01:20:04,479
Speaker 23: not impossible that the Tories could face a wipeout the

1801
01:20:04,560 --> 01:20:07,040
Speaker 23: way that going, the way this campaign is being run,

1802
01:20:07,960 --> 01:20:11,799
Speaker 23: and the advent of Nigel Ferras which has changed everything,

1803
01:20:12,680 --> 01:20:16,360
Speaker 23: really does suggest that they are under the kosh in

1804
01:20:16,479 --> 01:20:20,000
Speaker 23: a really big way, a way which I have never envisaged.

1805
01:20:20,240 --> 01:20:22,479
Speaker 23: When the poll was called get you.

1806
01:20:22,560 --> 01:20:24,439
Speaker 2: Up on Thursday, I appreciate it rod a little out

1807
01:20:24,439 --> 01:20:26,960
Speaker 2: of Britain for you. This morning they produced a map

1808
01:20:27,040 --> 01:20:29,559
Speaker 2: also the police the big crime thing if you're going

1809
01:20:29,600 --> 01:20:32,240
Speaker 2: to Europe for summer. Read another piece and seeing what

1810
01:20:32,320 --> 01:20:35,160
Speaker 2: I think was seeing in yesterday. It said, with hotel

1811
01:20:35,240 --> 01:20:37,840
Speaker 2: prices and the weather and the falling dollar, the dollar

1812
01:20:37,880 --> 01:20:40,519
Speaker 2: they referred to as the American good luck in Europe

1813
01:20:40,560 --> 01:20:43,519
Speaker 2: this summer. Anyway, the police in London have published a

1814
01:20:43,640 --> 01:20:45,960
Speaker 2: map or where you're most likely to get your phone

1815
01:20:46,040 --> 01:20:48,680
Speaker 2: nicked and we know all about it at our house, son,

1816
01:20:48,720 --> 01:20:50,120
Speaker 2: who's in that part of the world. The other day

1817
01:20:50,200 --> 01:20:51,800
Speaker 2: was coming out of the place and guy comes past

1818
01:20:51,840 --> 01:20:55,600
Speaker 2: and a bite gone, And there's fifty two thousand. So

1819
01:20:55,800 --> 01:20:59,800
Speaker 2: far this year, fifty two thousand phones have been nicked

1820
01:21:00,320 --> 01:21:02,479
Speaker 2: in the capital city of Westminster is where you don't

1821
01:21:02,479 --> 01:21:04,320
Speaker 2: want to be, and of course that's where you will

1822
01:21:04,360 --> 01:21:06,160
Speaker 2: be if you're a tourist, because that's you know, the

1823
01:21:07,240 --> 01:21:10,000
Speaker 2: houses of Parliament and all the flash neighborhoods and all

1824
01:21:10,040 --> 01:21:13,040
Speaker 2: the shops and stuff like that. Eight hundred and sixty

1825
01:21:13,080 --> 01:21:16,559
Speaker 2: three reported incidents alone in the city of Westminster, up

1826
01:21:16,560 --> 01:21:19,439
Speaker 2: forty seven percent on last year. Camden not good, Second

1827
01:21:19,840 --> 01:21:25,200
Speaker 2: southwn Hackney, Newham, Lambeth, Islington not good, not good, not good,

1828
01:21:25,320 --> 01:21:27,479
Speaker 2: not good, not good. So if you've got a phone

1829
01:21:27,520 --> 01:21:31,920
Speaker 2: and you're going on holiday to London, be careful. Sixteen

1830
01:21:31,960 --> 01:21:36,200
Speaker 2: two the Mike hosting breakfast where it is thirteen away

1831
01:21:36,240 --> 01:21:38,360
Speaker 2: from nine Mike, Can you please look into what happened

1832
01:21:38,400 --> 01:21:40,720
Speaker 2: to Scott Watson. He is going through court again this week,

1833
01:21:40,760 --> 01:21:42,479
Speaker 2: but after twenty six years in prison for a crime

1834
01:21:42,520 --> 01:21:48,439
Speaker 2: he didn't do with no evidence. I'm not sure there's

1835
01:21:48,479 --> 01:21:50,600
Speaker 2: a long line of people who would necessarily agree with

1836
01:21:50,680 --> 01:21:52,920
Speaker 2: all of that. Now, what happened with Darlene Tanner? Mike,

1837
01:21:54,000 --> 01:21:56,280
Speaker 2: how long can this take? There's a good question, how

1838
01:21:56,760 --> 01:22:02,720
Speaker 2: long can this take? How long's an inquiry? There's your question.

1839
01:22:03,560 --> 01:22:06,000
Speaker 2: We've rung, we'll ring again because Sam. Sam's got a

1840
01:22:06,040 --> 01:22:09,519
Speaker 2: quiet day to day, so he'll ring again and they'll

1841
01:22:09,560 --> 01:22:09,920
Speaker 2: tell us.

1842
01:22:09,960 --> 01:22:12,080
Speaker 7: Some I mean, this is not the UK post Office

1843
01:22:12,120 --> 01:22:14,280
Speaker 7: we're talking about here, is it. No, it's not one

1844
01:22:14,320 --> 01:22:14,760
Speaker 7: we'd hope.

1845
01:22:15,040 --> 01:22:15,519
Speaker 4: No it's not.

1846
01:22:16,640 --> 01:22:19,120
Speaker 2: So we're just racking up the hours. What was it

1847
01:22:19,240 --> 01:22:21,559
Speaker 2: was a forty eight thousand? Am I making that number

1848
01:22:21,560 --> 01:22:23,640
Speaker 2: of forty three thousand? What it would be forty eight?

1849
01:22:23,760 --> 01:22:24,479
Speaker 7: Don't exaggerate?

1850
01:22:25,479 --> 01:22:27,280
Speaker 2: Well that's three weeks ago, so be forty eight now.

1851
01:22:27,360 --> 01:22:29,799
Speaker 2: I'm just doing it by the hour. sEH oh, Rachel'll

1852
01:22:29,800 --> 01:22:31,439
Speaker 2: be charging by the hour. Be up to forty eight

1853
01:22:31,479 --> 01:22:34,120
Speaker 2: by now. And there's got to be something there, doesn't it?

1854
01:22:34,200 --> 01:22:37,120
Speaker 2: You cannot? I mean if she comes up with going hello, everybody,

1855
01:22:37,200 --> 01:22:39,960
Speaker 2: I've been investigating thoroughly, there's nothing to see. Everyone's going

1856
01:22:40,000 --> 01:22:40,160
Speaker 2: to go.

1857
01:22:40,280 --> 01:22:40,680
Speaker 3: What I have?

1858
01:22:41,479 --> 01:22:45,040
Speaker 2: Come on? Now, here's the sad business of yesterday. You

1859
01:22:45,120 --> 01:22:47,920
Speaker 2: might have seen that the White Island people, the White

1860
01:22:47,960 --> 01:22:51,559
Speaker 2: Island two people. They were ordered to pay five million

1861
01:22:51,600 --> 01:22:55,200
Speaker 2: dollars in reparations out of the White Island disaster. They've

1862
01:22:55,240 --> 01:22:59,080
Speaker 2: gone under, liquidators have been appointed. A company had few assets.

1863
01:22:59,280 --> 01:23:01,960
Speaker 2: Reparations would be paid by insurance, so that's the good thing.

1864
01:23:02,520 --> 01:23:04,360
Speaker 2: The company was not in a position to pay a fine.

1865
01:23:04,400 --> 01:23:06,240
Speaker 2: The fine was five hundred and seventy ten thousand dollars.

1866
01:23:06,520 --> 01:23:08,160
Speaker 2: And so goes the story of so many of these

1867
01:23:08,200 --> 01:23:10,360
Speaker 2: companies involved in this. And each time I read one

1868
01:23:10,400 --> 01:23:14,000
Speaker 2: of these stories, I think to myself, what was achieved here? Ultimately,

1869
01:23:14,560 --> 01:23:17,559
Speaker 2: in the sense that you had a dreadful, dreadful situation

1870
01:23:17,760 --> 01:23:21,880
Speaker 2: beyond anybody's comprehension. And I refuse still to believe that

1871
01:23:22,000 --> 01:23:24,439
Speaker 2: anybody goes to an island, takes a tour to an island,

1872
01:23:24,560 --> 01:23:28,800
Speaker 2: is involving themselves in a natural setting in any way,

1873
01:23:28,880 --> 01:23:32,160
Speaker 2: shape or form without being cognizant of the inherent danger.

1874
01:23:33,280 --> 01:23:36,080
Speaker 2: In other words, they're not idiots. And so you got

1875
01:23:36,080 --> 01:23:39,240
Speaker 2: a lot of people who were sprayed with charges, and

1876
01:23:39,479 --> 01:23:41,640
Speaker 2: some of them pled guilty very early on, and I

1877
01:23:41,680 --> 01:23:43,519
Speaker 2: would love to meet up with them in just a

1878
01:23:43,600 --> 01:23:46,200
Speaker 2: quiet moment, asked them whether they really pled guilty because

1879
01:23:46,200 --> 01:23:48,320
Speaker 2: they thought they were guilty, or whether they pled guilty

1880
01:23:48,320 --> 01:23:51,360
Speaker 2: because the lawyer said, probably better to say guilty and

1881
01:23:51,400 --> 01:23:54,360
Speaker 2: get on with life. There are a number of charges

1882
01:23:54,400 --> 01:23:57,800
Speaker 2: that were dropped. Why were they dropped because presumably the

1883
01:23:57,800 --> 01:23:59,559
Speaker 2: people who laid them didn't think they would stand up,

1884
01:24:00,200 --> 01:24:02,800
Speaker 2: which then brings back to the question should people in

1885
01:24:02,880 --> 01:24:05,160
Speaker 2: government departments and agencies and those sort of people simply

1886
01:24:05,240 --> 01:24:07,360
Speaker 2: spray charges all over the place? Any of the people

1887
01:24:07,360 --> 01:24:09,400
Speaker 2: who got charged and went to court and were found guilty.

1888
01:24:10,280 --> 01:24:14,680
Speaker 2: Now accepting that this wasn't a crime in the traditional

1889
01:24:14,800 --> 01:24:18,240
Speaker 2: sense that somebody sets out to commit a crime, what

1890
01:24:18,680 --> 01:24:21,360
Speaker 2: has been achieved by a number of companies going under

1891
01:24:21,479 --> 01:24:24,240
Speaker 2: These weren't wealthy companies who had nothing better to do

1892
01:24:24,360 --> 01:24:25,800
Speaker 2: with their time, and they were just milking to at

1893
01:24:25,840 --> 01:24:27,439
Speaker 2: slept right and center and laughing all the way to

1894
01:24:27,520 --> 01:24:30,120
Speaker 2: the bank. So, in the case of White Island Tours,

1895
01:24:30,160 --> 01:24:32,479
Speaker 2: in amNY money. So they had insurance, and that was good,

1896
01:24:32,520 --> 01:24:34,360
Speaker 2: and all companies should have insurance just in case. So

1897
01:24:34,400 --> 01:24:37,400
Speaker 2: insurance pays out. But they didn't have any money for

1898
01:24:37,439 --> 01:24:38,680
Speaker 2: the fine. What was the point of a fine? What

1899
01:24:38,720 --> 01:24:40,240
Speaker 2: would they have learned from a fine? If they had

1900
01:24:40,280 --> 01:24:41,840
Speaker 2: the five hundred thousand dollars, what would they have learned

1901
01:24:41,840 --> 01:24:46,120
Speaker 2: would they have learned not to be cognizant of a volcano? Again?

1902
01:24:46,200 --> 01:24:48,680
Speaker 2: I mean, see what and the whole industry, as far

1903
01:24:48,720 --> 01:24:51,679
Speaker 2: as I can tell, that we've made so much money

1904
01:24:51,720 --> 01:24:54,320
Speaker 2: on over the years in our reputation, this adventure tourism.

1905
01:24:54,680 --> 01:24:56,560
Speaker 2: What's happened to that as a result of this? And

1906
01:24:56,680 --> 01:24:58,400
Speaker 2: are we happy with all of this? In other words,

1907
01:24:58,520 --> 01:25:00,760
Speaker 2: in totality, when you look at when you wash it

1908
01:25:00,800 --> 01:25:03,000
Speaker 2: all up at the end of the day, have we

1909
01:25:03,120 --> 01:25:08,200
Speaker 2: achieved anything productive or proactive? In other words? Has can

1910
01:25:08,280 --> 01:25:11,040
Speaker 2: you say we learned these lessons? And as a result

1911
01:25:11,080 --> 01:25:13,320
Speaker 2: of this, all of these companies went under, All these

1912
01:25:13,360 --> 01:25:16,479
Speaker 2: people lost their jobs and we are better off for

1913
01:25:16,640 --> 01:25:18,920
Speaker 2: having gone through that particular process. And I'm not sure

1914
01:25:19,000 --> 01:25:21,320
Speaker 2: we can say that. Nine minutes away from nine.

1915
01:25:22,600 --> 01:25:26,639
Speaker 3: Call the Mike hosting Breakfast with these Dogs.

1916
01:25:27,200 --> 01:25:28,880
Speaker 2: My Earlier on, we were talking about the MPs who

1917
01:25:28,920 --> 01:25:33,240
Speaker 2: were claiming perfectly legally their allowances for living in homes

1918
01:25:33,240 --> 01:25:36,439
Speaker 2: they happen to owner and Kerry mcinnaughty's case, the home

1919
01:25:36,520 --> 01:25:39,680
Speaker 2: of his wife that's just recently married. And it's these

1920
01:25:39,680 --> 01:25:41,439
Speaker 2: stories just go round and around. The new cycle just

1921
01:25:41,479 --> 01:25:43,960
Speaker 2: goes round and around. There's nothing even new. I read

1922
01:25:44,040 --> 01:25:47,000
Speaker 2: also yesterday that demand for practical driver licensed in tests

1923
01:25:47,040 --> 01:25:50,200
Speaker 2: of skyrocketed and the headliners. It's impossible. You can't get

1924
01:25:50,240 --> 01:25:52,200
Speaker 2: a place. I mean, how many times? How many years

1925
01:25:52,240 --> 01:25:54,679
Speaker 2: have we gone through that particular story. Eh, my advice,

1926
01:25:54,800 --> 01:25:57,800
Speaker 2: we went through it very recently. Get on the waiting list,

1927
01:25:58,080 --> 01:26:00,639
Speaker 2: because what happens is wring them up and go I'm ready,

1928
01:26:00,760 --> 01:26:02,879
Speaker 2: I'm ready, tell me now, tell me now. They refresh

1929
01:26:03,000 --> 01:26:06,160
Speaker 2: every hour, who's not turned up, who doesn't turn up?

1930
01:26:06,200 --> 01:26:08,519
Speaker 2: Et cetera. And if you go on the hour and

1931
01:26:08,640 --> 01:26:10,639
Speaker 2: just go hi, I'm here right now, let's go where

1932
01:26:10,640 --> 01:26:11,040
Speaker 2: are we going?

1933
01:26:11,120 --> 01:26:11,880
Speaker 3: All go rural?

1934
01:26:12,520 --> 01:26:16,400
Speaker 2: And we got in the next day? Are you gonna

1935
01:26:16,400 --> 01:26:16,840
Speaker 2: blame me for?

1936
01:26:17,160 --> 01:26:17,200
Speaker 6: Like?

1937
01:26:17,439 --> 01:26:17,560
Speaker 4: Was I?

1938
01:26:18,280 --> 01:26:18,600
Speaker 2: What's that?

1939
01:26:18,840 --> 01:26:19,240
Speaker 8: Was that? Like?

1940
01:26:19,400 --> 01:26:20,120
Speaker 2: Hacking the system?

1941
01:26:21,640 --> 01:26:25,840
Speaker 7: Could be a new daily sign hosks hacks hos hosks.

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Speaker 2: Dumb idea five away from night.

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Speaker 3: Trending now the home of big brand skincare.

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Speaker 2: Right, what did Apple come up with? A capputino captina,

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Speaker 2: a capputinoy a cappetino. What they came up with was

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Speaker 2: a lot of iOS, iPad os, mac os, watch os,

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Speaker 2: tv os, a lot of os. All the os is

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Speaker 2: all the time. Cook he was standing on the Cappatino

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Speaker 2: headquarters on the roof next to the solar panels, because

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Speaker 2: he's a cool guy and he was really excited.

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Speaker 24: Today we're going to have some incredible updates to our players,

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Speaker 24: and I'm excited that we'll introduce profound new intelligence capabilities

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Speaker 24: that we hope will inspire developers, delight users, and make

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Speaker 24: our platforms even smarter and more useful than ever.

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Speaker 2: So intelligence not AI, So he's not using the word AI.

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Speaker 2: No mention of AI, even though you can now talk

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Speaker 2: to apparently Suri without actually talking to Siri.

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Speaker 25: For those instances when you may not want to speak

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Speaker 25: out loud in response to Sery, like on the bus

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Speaker 25: to work or in those places that are a little

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Speaker 25: too crowded, we've created the ability to simply nige your

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Speaker 25: head yes or gently shake your head no to interact whatever.

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Speaker 2: Keynote ran for more than and now before Tim returned

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Speaker 2: to use the term AI for the first time, except

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Speaker 2: today it stands for Apple Intelligence, not artificial intelligence. You've

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Speaker 2: got all that wrong, so we'll need to correct that.

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Speaker 2: Apple intelligence. So if you've got anything Apple updates are

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Speaker 2: on the way. They might have something to do with AI,

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Speaker 2: then they might not big shows returning to Apple TV.

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Speaker 2: Severances back, shrinkings, back, Silo's back. What happened in the

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Speaker 2: morning shows that Apple or is a Disney No.

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Speaker 7: That's also Apple. I think that's coming back as well.

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Speaker 2: When you put that down, Stam, Well, there's a lot

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Speaker 2: of shows. Well what about the morning show?

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Speaker 7: I can't list all the shows? Okay, Martha, I probably

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Speaker 7: could have. Now that we've had this argument.

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Speaker 2: Exactly, stock sink. They see Apple for what they are,

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Speaker 2: losers and lines at stores.

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Speaker 7: Only the third biggest company.

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Speaker 4: In the world.

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Speaker 2: Exactly used to be second, but they're only third. Now

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Speaker 2: they're bronze.

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Speaker 4: That is us.

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Speaker 2: Back tomorrow morning for the mic Asking Breakfast. It starts

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Speaker 2: at six Happy Days.

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