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Speaker 1: You're listening to The Resident Builder podcast with Peter wolf

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Speaker 1: Camp from US talks ed by doing up the house's

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Speaker 1: with Peter wolf Camp Call eight h eighty eight US

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Speaker 2: A house sizzle even when it's done, even when the

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Speaker 3: Sitting at the table trying not to starve.

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Speaker 2: even when you go around fund the ones you love,

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Speaker 3: Scream does broken pains, being in funnel locals West brom

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Speaker 2: House, even when we'll bend, even when.

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Speaker 3: You're in there alone.

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Speaker 4: All a very good morning and welcome along to the

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Speaker 4: Resident Builder on Sunday. You're with me people camp And

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Speaker 4: this is a program where we can talk about something

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Speaker 4: I love talking about. Basically, it's building, it's construction, it's

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Speaker 4: all things do I why do it yourself? Or for

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Speaker 4: those jobs that either you can't or don't want to

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Speaker 4: or aren't allowed to do yourself. Then we can talk

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Speaker 4: about engaging with contractors, choosing the right materials, getting the

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Speaker 4: right materials on site at the right time in order

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Speaker 4: to make jobs run efficiency efficiently. Rather, all of these

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Speaker 4: things we can discuss on the program this morning. So

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Speaker 4: really looking forward to your calls, your company, the conversation

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Speaker 4: and every now and then a good old fashioned robust

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Speaker 4: debate about which is the better approach to take. Certainly

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Speaker 4: there's plenty of It's been a year eighteen months really

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Speaker 4: of significant change in terms of the political landscape around

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Speaker 4: building and construction, with further announcements even this week with

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Speaker 4: I think it was both Chris Pink and David Seymour

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Speaker 4: going to a garden shed and freeing it of the

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Speaker 4: red tape that had been wrapped around it as a

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Speaker 4: way of graphically describing the removal of some of the

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Speaker 4: existing restrictions around where you can put sheds, minor dwellings

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Speaker 4: and so on and so forth. So how far from

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Speaker 4: requires a consent, et cetera, et cetera. Anyway, if you've

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Speaker 4: I mean, look in some ways, it's quite sensible, isn't it.

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Speaker 4: I would add a guess so that ninety percent of

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Speaker 4: the garden sheds in New Zealand are probably technically located

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Speaker 4: in the wrong position. Of that ninety percent, how many

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Speaker 4: of them might actually be a problem as a result

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Speaker 4: of their incorrect location, Probably very few. I've got a question.

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Speaker 4: The lines are open. The number to call is eight

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Speaker 4: hundred and eighty ten eighty. We can talk about that.

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Speaker 4: We can talk about all things painting and as well

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Speaker 4: because our painting expert, which is Bryce from Razine, will

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Speaker 4: be along at about seven twenty five this morning to

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Speaker 4: have a go at answering all of your painting questions.

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Speaker 4: So any text you can text through questions about painting

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Speaker 4: will put those to Bryce at around seven twenty five.

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Speaker 4: Of course, as always, went into the garden with through

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Speaker 4: climb passed from around eight thirty this morning, So plenty

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Speaker 4: eighty ten eighty is that number to call. Lots to

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Speaker 4: talk about. As always, we always get a little bit busy,

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Speaker 4: and also I'm going to I had an approach this

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Speaker 4: week from someone who said, hey, look, I've got some

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Speaker 4: friends who are involved in the charity and one of

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Speaker 4: the things that they're going to auction off at a

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Speaker 4: Gala bid auction so you can all of us, you,

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Speaker 4: me everybody can log on and bid for these items.

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Speaker 4: Is essentially a tiny home a minor dwelling, which is

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Speaker 4: pretty impressive sort of auction item to have. So this

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Speaker 4: is for a charity called to Kwi Meyer. It's set

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Speaker 4: you what there was the tiny and then of course

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Speaker 4: on the old Gala bid thing. And there's there's also

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Speaker 4: there's some pretty cool stuff up for auction, and it's

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Speaker 4: a very, very worthwhile charity. So we'll be talking with

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Speaker 4: that's up for auction that happens on Wednesday of this week.

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Speaker 4: get into it. Eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the

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Speaker 4: number to call Leroy. Good morning, good I'm well thanks.

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Speaker 5: I've got a sad garden shed.

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Speaker 6: I just bought.

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Speaker 5: And what sort of size timber can I use for

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Speaker 5: the floor inside it? It's a two point three by

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Speaker 4: Two point three by one point five okay, So if

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Speaker 4: to be about one point five meters. I mean, look

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Speaker 4: for a garden shed. Let's say you put how is

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Speaker 4: the ground that it's going on reasonably level?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm going to sit it on the one hundred

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Speaker 5: by one hundred.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you're going to conquer those in the ground.

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Speaker 5: Now, I'm not gonna sit on conquered. I'm just going

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Speaker 5: to sit on timber so they can.

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Speaker 4: Just you know, yeah, you can move it around. Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 4: So I would imagine no, typically we have a bearer

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Speaker 4: bring you bearers in maybe two or three hundred from

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Speaker 4: one fifty by fifty tennalized as you floor joists maybe

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Speaker 4: at four hundred centers. Do you want a solid floor

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Speaker 4: or a slattered floor? What will you use for flooring?

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Speaker 4: Like some plywood or something like that?

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Speaker 5: Well I was looking at like a hundred, like one

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Speaker 4: Ah okay, right, so you're going to it's going to

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Speaker 4: When you say you're going to use hundred bye hundred?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, because it's any authority, yes it see

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's quite a lot of timber though, you know,

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Speaker 4: like you're buying a lot of timber to floor, so

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Speaker 4: I think, you know, and if look, if it's going

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Speaker 4: some Maybe you use some like some four to three

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Speaker 4: so one hundred by seventy five as your choice. Frame

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Speaker 4: some fence pailings if you wanted to, which is generally

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Speaker 4: cheap as chips, right, so six x one fence paling

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Speaker 4: give you pretty cheap and robust floor, and then stand

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Speaker 4: the garden shed up on there. So the garden shed

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Speaker 4: itself is all metal, is it?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, look I just bought it from minor ten yep, yep. Whatever.

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Speaker 4: However long it tells you it's going to take to

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Speaker 4: a couple of garden sheds. And yeah, make sure you've

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Speaker 4: but and and just don't try and have a little

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Speaker 4: it sort of ideally at least one hundred and fifty

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Speaker 7: Yeah. Cool.

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Speaker 5: Last week a guy rang up about it liquid for

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Speaker 5: like an aluminium windows.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah. What what we were talking about was

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Speaker 4: like I struck down an old vice that's been on

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Speaker 4: all up, and then because it's it's cast metal, I

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Speaker 4: wanted to apply something to it, not a paint or

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Speaker 4: And so we had a number of different comments including

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Speaker 4: go and buy a tin of penetrol so p E

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Speaker 4: N E t R O L. I got it in

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Speaker 4: a spray can and then actually I've put that on

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Speaker 4: and I have to say I quite like the look

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Speaker 4: of it. I didn't quite get time to reassemble it

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yep, all right.

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Speaker 4: I'll tell you what, leroy. Someone's just text through as well.

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Speaker 4: What they've used is some old wooden palettes for the

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Speaker 4: shed floor. So and the palettes cost like five bucks each.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so that's.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not a bad option. I've seen that a

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Speaker 4: few times actually, So anyway, something to think about all

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Speaker 4: the best and I mean, look, if you can reuse

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Speaker 4: these things, I think that's fantastic. It's a tremendous amount

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Speaker 4: of way stay that comes out of pellets often. Oh right,

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Speaker 4: one hundred and eighteen eighty the number to call Liam

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Speaker 4: good morning, Good morning, Hey Liam. How are you doing?

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Speaker 8: Sorry?

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Speaker 4: How are you Liam?

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Speaker 9: I'm very well, very well.

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Speaker 4: How can I help?

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Speaker 9: I have I purchased in nineteen eighties traditional style townhouse

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Speaker 9: about two years ago. Three stories, garage on the bottom

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Speaker 9: and living on the middle and bedrooms up the top.

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Speaker 9: There's a heat pump on the middle. There's the heat

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Speaker 9: pump on the top level. I've noticed during the winters

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Speaker 9: a lot of condensation on the windows, so I ended

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Speaker 9: up kind of got a windows vacuum, window cleaners vacuuming

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Speaker 9: down not a huge amount of mold. I'm potentially looking

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Speaker 9: at banks are kind of offering the one percent healthy homes,

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Speaker 9: you know, so you can double laser windows yes, ventilation

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Speaker 9: systems things like this, and you can kind of top

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Speaker 9: up your morgic for three I think it's three years

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Speaker 9: at one percent, and I just wanted to I was

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Speaker 9: just wondering about the I suppose the benefits of that. Obviously,

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Speaker 9: it's going to add a lot of value to the house,

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Speaker 9: but in terms of the living conditions I've got two

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Speaker 9: young kids. Is that going to improve it dramatically by

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Speaker 9: getting those kind of systems?

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Speaker 4: Short answer is yes, But let me explain why. So

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Speaker 4: nineteen eighties house, the upside to that is that at

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Speaker 4: least you'll have some insulation in the walls. Right, So

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Speaker 4: you know, at that time we were starting to insulate,

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Speaker 4: not particularly well, but we were at least doing it.

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Speaker 4: Making it a crack at doing some insulation. So there'll

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Speaker 4: be some insulation in the walls. There'll be some insulation

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Speaker 4: even with relatively standard double glazing, the thermal effectiveness is

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Speaker 4: double glazing will make a difference. Having a decent ventilation

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Speaker 9: Fantastic, and just I know, it's very hard from a

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no, it's a little bit challenging. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 4: So what's the clouding on the outside of the house?

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Speaker 9: Under the ventilation system Sarry last question, system is that

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Speaker 4: But if you actually I'll tell you what, there's some

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Speaker 4: lovely to talk with you and all the best, Thank

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Speaker 4: you very much, take care of them all the best, mate.

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Speaker 1: A moment, whether you're painting the ceiling, fixing with fans,

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Speaker 4: News Talks B. It's just gone six almost six thirty

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Speaker 4: we're into it. Eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the

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Speaker 4: goes through so I never have to sweep the floor. Oh,

434
00:25:22,615 --> 00:25:25,015
Speaker 4: eight hundred eighty ten eighty. Tell me about what's going

435
00:25:25,015 --> 00:25:27,095
Speaker 4: on at your place if you've got a question. Eight

436
00:25:27,175 --> 00:25:30,535
Speaker 4: hundred eighty ten eighty is that number to call. And yes,

437
00:25:31,055 --> 00:25:35,575
Speaker 4: big changes coming for we can put garden sheds small

438
00:25:35,615 --> 00:25:38,895
Speaker 4: dwellings like up to ten square meters for example. That

439
00:25:38,975 --> 00:25:42,255
Speaker 4: whole thing about and it looks to be fair doing

440
00:25:42,255 --> 00:25:45,295
Speaker 4: the show now for eleven years or so. When we're

441
00:25:45,295 --> 00:25:49,175
Speaker 4: talking about garden sheds, we're talking about you know, sleepouts,

442
00:25:49,215 --> 00:25:52,655
Speaker 4: little workshops that people build. The rule has always been

443
00:25:52,775 --> 00:25:54,775
Speaker 4: it needed to be the height of the building away

444
00:25:54,815 --> 00:25:58,375
Speaker 4: from the boundary. Well, those rules are changing. I'll try

445
00:25:58,415 --> 00:26:01,695
Speaker 4: and get the updated information. Not yet, by the way,

446
00:26:01,735 --> 00:26:04,015
Speaker 4: but they will change in the future. So if you

447
00:26:04,015 --> 00:26:05,575
Speaker 4: want to have a chat about that, that's a great

448
00:26:05,575 --> 00:26:09,935
Speaker 4: idea as well. Someone's talking about dehumidifiers for removing moisture

449
00:26:10,375 --> 00:26:15,375
Speaker 4: from lions Lions Lim's comments a moment ago around you know,

450
00:26:15,455 --> 00:26:20,735
Speaker 4: a nineteen eighties house, aluminum jowinery, single glazed, probably no

451
00:26:21,135 --> 00:26:26,215
Speaker 4: great ventilation system in it, and constantly battling that condensation

452
00:26:26,415 --> 00:26:29,855
Speaker 4: on the inside of the glass. So we'll double glazing help. Yes,

453
00:26:30,655 --> 00:26:33,615
Speaker 4: we're changing the joinery help. Most definitely would putting a

454
00:26:33,695 --> 00:26:38,015
Speaker 4: ventilation system help one hundred percent it would, So a

455
00:26:38,055 --> 00:26:40,495
Speaker 4: combination of all of those things or some of all

456
00:26:40,535 --> 00:26:44,295
Speaker 4: of those things will make a difference. The other intriguing

457
00:26:44,335 --> 00:26:46,335
Speaker 4: thing it didn't get a chance to really talk with

458
00:26:46,415 --> 00:26:50,375
Speaker 4: them about it is people taking up the offer from

459
00:26:50,415 --> 00:26:55,855
Speaker 4: some of the banks for essentially loans to improve your

460
00:26:55,975 --> 00:27:00,455
Speaker 4: house in terms of energy efficiency. Right, so if you're

461
00:27:00,495 --> 00:27:02,775
Speaker 4: thinking about putting double glazing, and if you think about

462
00:27:02,775 --> 00:27:05,975
Speaker 4: putting solar panels in, or if you're thinking about some

463
00:27:06,375 --> 00:27:09,495
Speaker 4: energy retro fit to your existing house. Might even be

464
00:27:09,535 --> 00:27:12,695
Speaker 4: things like moving from let's say gas to a heat

465
00:27:12,775 --> 00:27:17,215
Speaker 4: pump hot water system. You can get one percent loans

466
00:27:17,255 --> 00:27:19,415
Speaker 4: from some banks. I don't think all of the banks

467
00:27:19,415 --> 00:27:21,695
Speaker 4: are doing it, but it's interesting to hear more and

468
00:27:21,775 --> 00:27:24,855
Speaker 4: more people talking about being able to do this work

469
00:27:25,335 --> 00:27:29,055
Speaker 4: because they can access that funding. And in fact, if

470
00:27:29,095 --> 00:27:31,215
Speaker 4: you've done that, i'd be interested to hear what the

471
00:27:31,255 --> 00:27:34,975
Speaker 4: process was, like, what the terms and conditions are. I

472
00:27:35,015 --> 00:27:36,615
Speaker 4: know a couple of people who have done it. It's

473
00:27:36,775 --> 00:27:39,575
Speaker 4: very specific. It's like, here's the quote for the work

474
00:27:39,575 --> 00:27:42,135
Speaker 4: that I'm going to do, maybe solar panels, for example.

475
00:27:42,455 --> 00:27:45,895
Speaker 4: It's twenty thousand dollars, and so there'll be an advance

476
00:27:46,055 --> 00:27:48,375
Speaker 4: on your mortgage of twenty thousand dollars, but that's set

477
00:27:48,415 --> 00:27:52,775
Speaker 4: at one percent interest rates. If you've done it, I'd

478
00:27:52,815 --> 00:27:54,695
Speaker 4: be interested in talking with you about it. If you've

479
00:27:54,695 --> 00:27:57,375
Speaker 4: got a question of a building nature of any description,

480
00:27:57,535 --> 00:27:59,655
Speaker 4: you should call us right down oh, eight hundred eighty

481
00:27:59,735 --> 00:28:02,175
Speaker 4: ten eighty squeaky door or.

482
00:28:02,255 --> 00:28:06,175
Speaker 1: Squeaky floor, get the right advice from Pedibulfcap the resident

483
00:28:06,855 --> 00:28:08,135
Speaker 1: on news Talk, sab.

484
00:28:09,295 --> 00:28:13,015
Speaker 4: Your news talk said B. And here's the actual press

485
00:28:13,055 --> 00:28:16,375
Speaker 4: release from mby this with regard to this announcement, which

486
00:28:16,495 --> 00:28:21,375
Speaker 4: was spectacularly displayed by David Seymour cutting through some red

487
00:28:21,415 --> 00:28:24,055
Speaker 4: tape on little garden shed I think somewhere at Epsom

488
00:28:24,135 --> 00:28:28,255
Speaker 4: or something like that just the other day. So by

489
00:28:28,295 --> 00:28:31,295
Speaker 4: the end of twenty twenty five, home owners will be

490
00:28:31,415 --> 00:28:36,175
Speaker 4: able to build a single story detached building between ten

491
00:28:36,295 --> 00:28:40,495
Speaker 4: and thirty square meters in floor area one meter away

492
00:28:40,575 --> 00:28:44,655
Speaker 4: from any boundary or any other building without a building consent,

493
00:28:47,575 --> 00:28:51,695
Speaker 4: so up to thirty between ten and thirty square meters

494
00:28:51,695 --> 00:28:55,055
Speaker 4: in floor area one meter away from any boundary or

495
00:28:55,095 --> 00:28:57,095
Speaker 4: another building. That was the other thing that was always

496
00:28:57,135 --> 00:28:59,815
Speaker 4: part of the current legislation that if you were doing

497
00:28:59,855 --> 00:29:02,895
Speaker 4: something in your backyard it had to be the height

498
00:29:02,935 --> 00:29:05,895
Speaker 4: of the building away from another building as well. Now

499
00:29:05,935 --> 00:29:08,295
Speaker 4: it can be much closer. Obviously, it can be a

500
00:29:08,335 --> 00:29:10,735
Speaker 4: meter away. And then the other part of the change

501
00:29:10,815 --> 00:29:15,135
Speaker 4: is build a single story detached building under ten square

502
00:29:15,175 --> 00:29:19,455
Speaker 4: meters up to the boundary or another building without building

503
00:29:19,495 --> 00:29:25,255
Speaker 4: consent until the law changes, Detached standalone buildings that don't

504
00:29:25,295 --> 00:29:29,815
Speaker 4: meet the current setback requirements may need a consent so.

505
00:29:30,535 --> 00:29:32,855
Speaker 4: According to the nb website, these changes aim to give

506
00:29:32,855 --> 00:29:35,855
Speaker 4: homeowners more choice about how they use their land, reducing

507
00:29:35,895 --> 00:29:41,295
Speaker 4: consenting costs and delays along the way. Here's a practical thing.

508
00:29:42,415 --> 00:29:46,855
Speaker 4: Let's say you put a ten square meter shed workshop.

509
00:29:48,095 --> 00:29:50,095
Speaker 4: It's not likely to be a minor dwelling, but it

510
00:29:50,135 --> 00:29:53,935
Speaker 4: could be a sleep out, a bedroom that someone might

511
00:29:54,055 --> 00:29:59,175
Speaker 4: sleep in on the boundary. And you build it and

512
00:29:59,175 --> 00:30:02,975
Speaker 4: you put it on the boundary. How do you maintain

513
00:30:03,175 --> 00:30:07,575
Speaker 4: that exterior of that building f it's against the boundary?

514
00:30:10,655 --> 00:30:14,695
Speaker 4: And if you don't maintain it, what happens to the

515
00:30:14,735 --> 00:30:23,735
Speaker 4: exterior cladding in that instance? So I think, yeah, I

516
00:30:23,735 --> 00:30:25,535
Speaker 4: mean you'd like to think that they've thought about this,

517
00:30:25,695 --> 00:30:28,855
Speaker 4: but there's a question that I haven't seen an answer for.

518
00:30:28,935 --> 00:30:30,855
Speaker 4: Oh eight, one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number?

519
00:30:30,895 --> 00:30:31,095
Speaker 9: Jack?

520
00:30:31,135 --> 00:30:33,255
Speaker 4: Good morning, Yeah, good morning.

521
00:30:34,335 --> 00:30:39,015
Speaker 6: Two points. I've got a neighbors who's put a ten

522
00:30:39,055 --> 00:30:42,615
Speaker 6: meters shed right on my boundary. So no, I can't

523
00:30:42,655 --> 00:30:44,855
Speaker 6: get to that. I've reclad in front of it. I

524
00:30:44,935 --> 00:30:49,295
Speaker 6: can't reclad the back of it or put me spouting on. Hence,

525
00:30:49,455 --> 00:30:57,175
Speaker 6: I've had water in my shed and there's stormwater if

526
00:30:57,175 --> 00:30:59,335
Speaker 6: you like this, rainwater is coming in the back of

527
00:30:59,375 --> 00:31:02,535
Speaker 6: my shed, and there I've lost two freezers for of

528
00:31:02,575 --> 00:31:05,655
Speaker 6: food as well as the freezers. So that just backs

529
00:31:05,735 --> 00:31:07,655
Speaker 6: up you your argument there well.

530
00:31:08,175 --> 00:31:11,575
Speaker 4: And bearing in mind that currently, you know, sheds need

531
00:31:11,615 --> 00:31:14,575
Speaker 4: to be where you're legally supposed to put them, right,

532
00:31:14,615 --> 00:31:18,335
Speaker 4: so it's technically supposed to be the height of the building,

533
00:31:18,375 --> 00:31:21,295
Speaker 4: the height of the shed away from the boundary. So

534
00:31:21,335 --> 00:31:24,295
Speaker 4: obviously the one that's there already, the one that's causing problems,

535
00:31:24,895 --> 00:31:30,975
Speaker 4: is non compliant. And you know, the other thing is

536
00:31:31,055 --> 00:31:33,135
Speaker 4: that I and I had this discussion of some people

537
00:31:33,175 --> 00:31:38,215
Speaker 4: this week about you know, stormwater discharge, right, so there's

538
00:31:38,335 --> 00:31:43,935
Speaker 4: responsibility for every homeowner to control stormwater discharge. And I

539
00:31:43,975 --> 00:31:46,175
Speaker 4: guess the other challenge with this, for example, is going

540
00:31:46,215 --> 00:31:48,815
Speaker 4: to be chances are, if you're doing a ten square

541
00:31:48,895 --> 00:31:52,055
Speaker 4: meter building and you're going to put it on the boundary,

542
00:31:52,375 --> 00:31:54,295
Speaker 4: chances are it's going to have a mono pitch roof,

543
00:31:54,695 --> 00:31:59,175
Speaker 4: and most people will slope that towards the boundary, which

544
00:31:59,215 --> 00:32:02,375
Speaker 4: means that's where the storm water is going, which means

545
00:32:03,015 --> 00:32:05,695
Speaker 4: that's where the spouting should be and some sort of

546
00:32:05,775 --> 00:32:11,055
Speaker 4: drainage end connection should be. But humans being what humans are,

547
00:32:12,055 --> 00:32:14,535
Speaker 4: I would imagine that many of these little structures don't

548
00:32:14,575 --> 00:32:17,135
Speaker 4: have any spouting, and if they do have some spouting,

549
00:32:17,135 --> 00:32:20,215
Speaker 4: they've got a downpipe that goes onto the ground. So effectively,

550
00:32:20,335 --> 00:32:24,255
Speaker 4: you're directing your storm water potentially to your neighbor's place,

551
00:32:24,255 --> 00:32:26,495
Speaker 4: which is not great.

552
00:32:27,255 --> 00:32:31,295
Speaker 6: No, that's exactly what's happened here in my place. So

553
00:32:31,415 --> 00:32:34,975
Speaker 6: now my back door, if you like, it's all swampy

554
00:32:35,015 --> 00:32:38,575
Speaker 6: and I get water, and I'm sort of raising the

555
00:32:38,655 --> 00:32:42,335
Speaker 6: back of the house up to try and negate what

556
00:32:42,815 --> 00:32:47,175
Speaker 6: they're doing. So yeah, so agree with here. But my

557
00:32:47,255 --> 00:32:51,095
Speaker 6: main question was talked about sheds on the boundary and

558
00:32:51,135 --> 00:32:53,695
Speaker 6: stuff like that. So we people put I say, a

559
00:32:53,695 --> 00:32:59,215
Speaker 6: two minute sensor. Then they planted with pits porums right

560
00:32:59,255 --> 00:33:01,375
Speaker 6: on the boundary, and those pis fororums getting up to

561
00:33:01,455 --> 00:33:09,455
Speaker 6: three to four meters. Is that, yeah, you've had to

562
00:33:09,455 --> 00:33:12,655
Speaker 6: do that because so effectually, because forms are becoming a fence.

563
00:33:12,455 --> 00:33:16,615
Speaker 4: As well, yes, except they're not considered fences in terms

564
00:33:16,655 --> 00:33:20,095
Speaker 4: of the Fencing Act, right, But I know what you're saying.

565
00:33:21,495 --> 00:33:24,655
Speaker 4: We've had a couple of property lawyers on the program,

566
00:33:24,695 --> 00:33:26,855
Speaker 4: and so the insight that I got from them, and

567
00:33:27,095 --> 00:33:29,135
Speaker 4: you would need to go and talk to a lawyer obviously,

568
00:33:29,655 --> 00:33:33,495
Speaker 4: is that there is a provision under the Property Act

569
00:33:33,815 --> 00:33:37,095
Speaker 4: right that allows you to approach a neighbor to say,

570
00:33:37,615 --> 00:33:40,495
Speaker 4: you know, particularly, let's say if you had a view

571
00:33:40,535 --> 00:33:43,375
Speaker 4: which is now blocked by some trees that are growing,

572
00:33:43,735 --> 00:33:46,895
Speaker 4: you can go to the neighbor and use the Property

573
00:33:46,895 --> 00:33:50,895
Speaker 4: Act to sort of request that they trim those trees

574
00:33:50,935 --> 00:33:55,455
Speaker 4: in some way. If they were already there maybe when

575
00:33:55,455 --> 00:33:58,615
Speaker 4: you bought the property, you possibly don't have a stronger case.

576
00:33:59,775 --> 00:34:02,335
Speaker 4: But you know, if it's something that's been planted and

577
00:34:02,375 --> 00:34:05,215
Speaker 4: then suddenly you know it wasn't there a couple of

578
00:34:05,255 --> 00:34:07,655
Speaker 4: years ago, and shivers. I know what it's like. You

579
00:34:07,775 --> 00:34:09,815
Speaker 4: put something in in New Zealand and a few years

580
00:34:09,855 --> 00:34:11,895
Speaker 4: later it's four meters high and it's right there on

581
00:34:11,975 --> 00:34:14,895
Speaker 4: the boundary, and the neighbor decides, criky, they're a bit

582
00:34:14,935 --> 00:34:17,335
Speaker 4: tall now. But I don't have the energy to go

583
00:34:17,375 --> 00:34:20,175
Speaker 4: and trim them, et cetera, et cetera. And then yeah,

584
00:34:20,255 --> 00:34:24,455
Speaker 4: it's an impulse on you. But that's where the Property

585
00:34:24,455 --> 00:34:27,095
Speaker 4: Act comes in as opposed to the Fencing Act.

586
00:34:28,215 --> 00:34:31,615
Speaker 6: Okay, so propery yeah, yeah, of course from now what

587
00:34:31,775 --> 00:34:34,615
Speaker 6: was lost was all day at morning, sun, lunch time.

588
00:34:34,695 --> 00:34:38,575
Speaker 6: So yeah, well i'm the Padriact. Yeah, it'll be.

589
00:34:38,575 --> 00:34:40,855
Speaker 4: Interesting to see, like just going back to the sheds,

590
00:34:40,895 --> 00:34:43,895
Speaker 4: you know, when this legislation actually gets drafted, you know,

591
00:34:43,975 --> 00:34:47,135
Speaker 4: will they say, look, there's a you know, like a shed.

592
00:34:48,655 --> 00:34:51,055
Speaker 4: Let's assume that most sheds are about two point four

593
00:34:51,815 --> 00:34:54,855
Speaker 4: stud height inside, maybe a little bit less on the

594
00:34:54,855 --> 00:34:58,335
Speaker 4: boundary side, plus some space for roofing, plus a little

595
00:34:58,335 --> 00:35:00,375
Speaker 4: bit of gap underneath to get it up off the ground.

596
00:35:00,655 --> 00:35:04,655
Speaker 4: You know, it might be two seven to eight. And

597
00:35:04,695 --> 00:35:06,735
Speaker 4: if you've got a one point eight meter high fence,

598
00:35:07,175 --> 00:35:12,055
Speaker 4: then that's one meter higher than your existing fence right now.

599
00:35:13,815 --> 00:35:17,015
Speaker 4: And you know, if it's ten square meters, then typically

600
00:35:17,095 --> 00:35:19,455
Speaker 4: if we're building ten square meters, it's going to be

601
00:35:19,535 --> 00:35:22,695
Speaker 4: something like four meters long two and a half meters deep.

602
00:35:23,015 --> 00:35:26,375
Speaker 4: Let's say, so that's four meters of your back boundary

603
00:35:26,455 --> 00:35:31,135
Speaker 4: or side boundary that will have a one meter high

604
00:35:32,855 --> 00:35:36,215
Speaker 4: structure potentially right on the boundary.

605
00:35:37,455 --> 00:35:40,455
Speaker 6: Yes, yeah, and then this is near there's the one

606
00:35:40,535 --> 00:35:45,495
Speaker 6: sort of going through at the moment. It's yeah, but

607
00:35:45,735 --> 00:35:47,735
Speaker 6: you one's going to retain their own sort of water

608
00:35:47,775 --> 00:35:49,055
Speaker 6: on their own probably rather than.

609
00:35:51,335 --> 00:35:54,135
Speaker 4: And you know, this is it's one of those real

610
00:35:54,215 --> 00:35:57,895
Speaker 4: nuisance things that that people you know, sometimes like it's

611
00:35:58,015 --> 00:36:00,215
Speaker 4: kind of like it's not my problem, but in reality,

612
00:36:00,655 --> 00:36:03,015
Speaker 4: as a homeowner or as a property owner, it is

613
00:36:03,055 --> 00:36:07,935
Speaker 4: absolutely your responsibility to control stormwater discharge from your own property.

614
00:36:08,895 --> 00:36:13,055
Speaker 4: And and it's it's like where where there is no

615
00:36:13,375 --> 00:36:18,495
Speaker 4: it's all about channeling or diverting storm water. So you know,

616
00:36:18,575 --> 00:36:22,295
Speaker 4: stormwater that falls on the ground, let's say, and it's

617
00:36:22,375 --> 00:36:26,335
Speaker 4: natural ground, there's no there's no requirement to control that.

618
00:36:26,775 --> 00:36:30,015
Speaker 4: As soon as you divert it. I put a concrete

619
00:36:30,135 --> 00:36:33,415
Speaker 4: driveway or an impermeable surface down, you've got to control that.

620
00:36:33,535 --> 00:36:35,015
Speaker 4: Soon as you put a shed on it, which has

621
00:36:35,055 --> 00:36:38,015
Speaker 4: got a roof, you're collecting that water. You're going to

622
00:36:38,095 --> 00:36:41,815
Speaker 4: direct it to some spouting, ideally into a downpipe that

623
00:36:41,935 --> 00:36:45,375
Speaker 4: needs to be controlled and needs to be directed to stormwater.

624
00:36:46,455 --> 00:36:49,055
Speaker 4: You know, it can't just go onto the ground anymore.

625
00:36:50,095 --> 00:36:53,455
Speaker 4: It hasn't ever actually, so no.

626
00:36:53,055 --> 00:36:55,895
Speaker 6: No, yeah, see I'm going to pat my surans come

627
00:36:55,935 --> 00:37:00,295
Speaker 6: there and see whether I got any come back or

628
00:37:00,335 --> 00:37:04,375
Speaker 6: whether then claim on my neighbor's insurance, you know, for

629
00:37:04,415 --> 00:37:07,295
Speaker 6: water coming on the back of probably now surface water,

630
00:37:07,975 --> 00:37:12,735
Speaker 6: and because it's an over the house eight years old,

631
00:37:12,775 --> 00:37:14,375
Speaker 6: I suppose yeah.

632
00:37:15,015 --> 00:37:17,375
Speaker 4: I mean this kind of comes into that whole gradual

633
00:37:17,455 --> 00:37:19,095
Speaker 4: damage thing with insurance companies.

634
00:37:19,215 --> 00:37:19,615
Speaker 7: You know.

635
00:37:21,095 --> 00:37:25,175
Speaker 4: Whether or not they would pay out a claim, but hey,

636
00:37:25,175 --> 00:37:27,015
Speaker 4: look they might be able to give you some advice

637
00:37:27,055 --> 00:37:30,335
Speaker 4: in terms of approaching the neighbor and saying, hey, look,

638
00:37:30,415 --> 00:37:34,415
Speaker 4: can we do something to control that stormwater run off?

639
00:37:34,495 --> 00:37:36,535
Speaker 4: Because you know, we tend to think about ten square

640
00:37:36,575 --> 00:37:39,335
Speaker 4: meters as not particularly large. I think I don't know

641
00:37:39,335 --> 00:37:40,975
Speaker 4: what size the shed is that I've got the side

642
00:37:40,975 --> 00:37:43,655
Speaker 4: of the house. It's probably less than ten square meters,

643
00:37:43,935 --> 00:37:47,415
Speaker 4: but it's a sufficient catchment area that I've put in

644
00:37:47,415 --> 00:37:51,775
Speaker 4: a slim gym tank next to it for irrigation with

645
00:37:51,855 --> 00:37:55,575
Speaker 4: an overflow. You know, that tank over winter will fill up.

646
00:37:55,655 --> 00:37:58,975
Speaker 4: That's two thousand liters, right, So that's two thousand liters

647
00:37:58,975 --> 00:38:01,415
Speaker 4: of water that maybe years ago used to just go

648
00:38:01,455 --> 00:38:03,735
Speaker 4: onto the ground. Now I've captured it in a water

649
00:38:03,815 --> 00:38:08,455
Speaker 4: tank and I can use that in the guard. There's

650
00:38:08,495 --> 00:38:10,735
Speaker 4: your other thought is to put a water tank there

651
00:38:10,815 --> 00:38:14,295
Speaker 4: as some goes some way to controlling that storm water.

652
00:38:14,855 --> 00:38:17,895
Speaker 4: Appreciate the call, Jack, you take care. Oh eight hundred

653
00:38:17,975 --> 00:38:19,575
Speaker 4: eighty ten eighty is the number to call. Will take

654
00:38:19,575 --> 00:38:21,335
Speaker 4: a break. We'll be back with Donna in just a moment.

655
00:38:21,895 --> 00:38:25,775
Speaker 1: Helping you get those DIY projects done right. The resident

656
00:38:25,815 --> 00:38:29,175
Speaker 1: builder with Beautia Wolf Care call, Oh eight hundred eighty eighty.

657
00:38:29,295 --> 00:38:33,695
Speaker 4: Youth talksb Year with News Talks. Heb coming up there.

658
00:38:33,695 --> 00:38:37,175
Speaker 4: We got six minutes away from seven o'clock, Philly, brisk

659
00:38:37,255 --> 00:38:40,335
Speaker 4: old morning out there. This morning four degrees or something

660
00:38:40,335 --> 00:38:43,095
Speaker 4: like that in Auckland. I think parts of the lower

661
00:38:43,135 --> 00:38:46,015
Speaker 4: South Island about minus three or so, but hopefully a

662
00:38:46,095 --> 00:38:48,415
Speaker 4: nice clear day. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty the

663
00:38:48,455 --> 00:38:51,535
Speaker 4: number to call. Donna. Good morning, Good.

664
00:38:51,295 --> 00:38:53,455
Speaker 11: Morning, Peter and Hamilton's.

665
00:38:53,615 --> 00:38:56,375
Speaker 4: Oh there you go. That'll be charming, that'd be beautiful.

666
00:38:57,215 --> 00:39:01,655
Speaker 11: It's a beautiful morning there, beautiful, beautiful morning. You're giving

667
00:39:01,695 --> 00:39:02,495
Speaker 11: excellent advice.

668
00:39:02,575 --> 00:39:03,175
Speaker 7: You're right.

669
00:39:03,255 --> 00:39:06,215
Speaker 11: The property Act. Your fellow with the drainage coming on too.

670
00:39:08,095 --> 00:39:08,455
Speaker 10: He can.

671
00:39:08,975 --> 00:39:10,895
Speaker 11: Unfortunately he's going to have to talk to a lawyer.

672
00:39:10,895 --> 00:39:13,135
Speaker 11: Talk to the neighbor first, say look, sort out your

673
00:39:13,215 --> 00:39:16,335
Speaker 11: drainage on your own shed. Otherwise the neighbor will need

674
00:39:16,375 --> 00:39:19,095
Speaker 11: a right to drain water over his neighbour's property. You

675
00:39:19,135 --> 00:39:21,575
Speaker 11: can't just call the nuisance like that and have water

676
00:39:21,695 --> 00:39:24,375
Speaker 11: coming off your property. So he definitely needs to do

677
00:39:24,415 --> 00:39:27,575
Speaker 11: that desert, and yeah, it's become a bigger problem.

678
00:39:27,615 --> 00:39:30,055
Speaker 4: Presume us there's a right to drain water over your

679
00:39:30,095 --> 00:39:32,615
Speaker 4: neighbor's property. The neighbor could then just go, I'm not

680
00:39:32,695 --> 00:39:34,935
Speaker 4: giving you that right, in which case it goes back

681
00:39:34,975 --> 00:39:38,375
Speaker 4: to the offending neighbor, who then has to control the

682
00:39:38,415 --> 00:39:38,895
Speaker 4: storm water.

683
00:39:39,295 --> 00:39:45,055
Speaker 11: Yes, yes, yes, absolutely, Yeah, so he'll need to do that,

684
00:39:45,135 --> 00:39:47,655
Speaker 11: and if he does go into it's going to become

685
00:39:47,695 --> 00:39:49,495
Speaker 11: a problem. I guess, I don't know. You get counseled

686
00:39:49,495 --> 00:39:52,575
Speaker 11: if you've got a bad neighbor. He might have and

687
00:39:52,655 --> 00:39:53,895
Speaker 11: he not even dood about it.

688
00:39:54,695 --> 00:39:57,415
Speaker 4: And look, often people don't, right, And most of the

689
00:39:57,455 --> 00:40:01,335
Speaker 4: time we don't go and stand outside when it's raining

690
00:40:01,455 --> 00:40:03,415
Speaker 4: and look at the amount of water that comes off

691
00:40:03,455 --> 00:40:06,935
Speaker 4: a small roof. But when you do do it, as

692
00:40:07,015 --> 00:40:09,375
Speaker 4: I've done it on a number of occasions for some

693
00:40:09,415 --> 00:40:13,975
Speaker 4: weird reason, it's actually quite it's quite a lot of

694
00:40:13,975 --> 00:40:16,455
Speaker 4: water even from a you know, what you think is

695
00:40:16,455 --> 00:40:21,175
Speaker 4: a relatively small roof. If you're bored and it's raining,

696
00:40:21,295 --> 00:40:24,095
Speaker 4: go outside and if there's no spouting or something like that,

697
00:40:24,215 --> 00:40:26,695
Speaker 4: just look at the amount, or just do a little

698
00:40:26,735 --> 00:40:29,375
Speaker 4: bit of calculation in the back of an envelope. It's

699
00:40:29,455 --> 00:40:32,855
Speaker 4: quite phenomenal the amount of rainwater that you can collect

700
00:40:33,015 --> 00:40:36,215
Speaker 4: off a relatively small roof. And I guess your point is,

701
00:40:36,335 --> 00:40:39,135
Speaker 4: if you're not collecting it, then it's ending up somewhere else.

702
00:40:39,175 --> 00:40:43,415
Speaker 4: And if it's ending up on the neighbour's property, you

703
00:40:43,455 --> 00:40:44,535
Speaker 4: should do something about that.

704
00:40:45,535 --> 00:40:49,055
Speaker 11: Yeah, I absolutely should, because he's obviously been really good

705
00:40:49,055 --> 00:40:49,495
Speaker 11: and patient.

706
00:40:49,575 --> 00:40:51,295
Speaker 5: But it's going to become a bigger problem.

707
00:40:51,775 --> 00:40:54,415
Speaker 4: Oh hey, and look it's I had a long conversation

708
00:40:54,455 --> 00:40:57,095
Speaker 4: with someone this week about sort of the intensity of rainfall.

709
00:40:57,495 --> 00:41:00,415
Speaker 4: So what we're getting now is these really heavy downpours.

710
00:41:00,855 --> 00:41:02,495
Speaker 4: It's just going to be even more of a problem,

711
00:41:02,575 --> 00:41:05,695
Speaker 4: isn't it that sort of flash flooding that occurs. Appreciate it.

712
00:41:05,815 --> 00:41:10,255
Speaker 4: You have a great day, Donna, take care yours. Used

713
00:41:10,295 --> 00:41:12,015
Speaker 4: talks said, begives a call. We'll get things set up

714
00:41:12,015 --> 00:41:13,775
Speaker 4: before we go to the new Sport where the top

715
00:41:13,775 --> 00:41:15,895
Speaker 4: of the are at seven. The number is eight hundred

716
00:41:15,895 --> 00:41:17,695
Speaker 4: and eighty ten eighty.

717
00:41:18,775 --> 00:41:22,615
Speaker 1: Measure twice God was but maybe call Pete first video

718
00:41:22,655 --> 00:41:25,335
Speaker 1: workcam the Resident Builder News talks the'd be.

719
00:41:27,255 --> 00:41:32,575
Speaker 4: I'm looking at some graphs about rainfall just to explain.

720
00:41:32,655 --> 00:41:34,695
Speaker 4: So good morning, welcome to the show. By the way,

721
00:41:34,735 --> 00:41:37,095
Speaker 4: why don I speak wofcamp Resident Builder and we're talking

722
00:41:37,135 --> 00:41:39,895
Speaker 4: all things building and construction on the show this morning.

723
00:41:39,895 --> 00:41:41,935
Speaker 4: We're going to be talking painting as well, so if

724
00:41:41,935 --> 00:41:47,455
Speaker 4: you've got any specific painting questions please text them through Bryce,

725
00:41:47,575 --> 00:41:50,615
Speaker 4: our painting expert from Razine will be available at around

726
00:41:50,655 --> 00:41:53,855
Speaker 4: seven twenty five this morning. Just prior to the news

727
00:41:53,855 --> 00:41:56,535
Speaker 4: we were talking about it's a bit of a perennial

728
00:41:56,575 --> 00:41:59,695
Speaker 4: topic on the show. You know sheds and we can

729
00:41:59,735 --> 00:42:02,895
Speaker 4: put them. It's topical at the moment because the government

730
00:42:02,935 --> 00:42:07,375
Speaker 4: have announced as a result of tips to the what

731
00:42:07,495 --> 00:42:11,975
Speaker 4: is it the red tape tip line that was established

732
00:42:12,015 --> 00:42:15,055
Speaker 4: as part of the Act policies, where people have come

733
00:42:15,095 --> 00:42:17,495
Speaker 4: through and said, look, you know, it's a crazy bit

734
00:42:17,495 --> 00:42:21,455
Speaker 4: of bureaucracy that the current legislation around where you can

735
00:42:21,455 --> 00:42:24,055
Speaker 4: put a garden shed is that it needs to be

736
00:42:25,175 --> 00:42:27,775
Speaker 4: the height of the building away from the boundary, etc. Etc.

737
00:42:28,655 --> 00:42:31,175
Speaker 4: So now that's going to change stuff. It's ten square

738
00:42:31,215 --> 00:42:34,455
Speaker 4: meters or less, it can actually go right on the boundary,

739
00:42:35,295 --> 00:42:39,055
Speaker 4: and if it's between ten and thirty square meters, it

740
00:42:39,095 --> 00:42:41,975
Speaker 4: can now be one meter away from the boundary without

741
00:42:42,015 --> 00:42:47,855
Speaker 4: requiring a specific building consent. Typically, if you went closer

742
00:42:47,935 --> 00:42:51,415
Speaker 4: than a meter, especially if it was a habitable space

743
00:42:51,535 --> 00:42:54,655
Speaker 4: like a sleepout, then you would need to do a firewall.

744
00:42:55,495 --> 00:42:57,735
Speaker 4: This is to prevent the spread of fire in the

745
00:42:57,775 --> 00:43:01,215
Speaker 4: event that that starts burning. Does it prevents the spread

746
00:43:01,255 --> 00:43:03,055
Speaker 4: of fire to the neighbor? So I guess it a

747
00:43:03,095 --> 00:43:06,655
Speaker 4: meter that's no longer required, nor does it need to

748
00:43:06,655 --> 00:43:09,055
Speaker 4: be a meter away from an existing building. So if

749
00:43:09,055 --> 00:43:12,095
Speaker 4: you're thinking about, you know, putting a shed in the backyard,

750
00:43:12,535 --> 00:43:14,575
Speaker 4: and you go to the back of your house, then

751
00:43:14,615 --> 00:43:16,495
Speaker 4: typically it would have had to have been the height

752
00:43:16,535 --> 00:43:20,375
Speaker 4: of the building away from your existing property or another structure,

753
00:43:20,535 --> 00:43:24,015
Speaker 4: so a garage maybe that's in the backyard. Now they

754
00:43:24,015 --> 00:43:28,095
Speaker 4: can be a meter apart. But it does raise some

755
00:43:28,775 --> 00:43:32,895
Speaker 4: genuine issues in terms of how responsible are people in

756
00:43:32,975 --> 00:43:36,935
Speaker 4: terms of managing the storm water. That got us on

757
00:43:36,935 --> 00:43:39,495
Speaker 4: to talk about stormwater, got us on talking about drainage,

758
00:43:39,495 --> 00:43:42,575
Speaker 4: got us on to talking about the surprising amount of

759
00:43:42,615 --> 00:43:44,815
Speaker 4: water that comes off a roof, even if it's a

760
00:43:44,855 --> 00:43:47,255
Speaker 4: relatively small one, And so someone's taxed through and said, hey,

761
00:43:47,255 --> 00:43:49,655
Speaker 4: good morning, Pete. You do only need turn a millimeters

762
00:43:49,655 --> 00:43:52,575
Speaker 4: of rain on that ten square meter roof to fill

763
00:43:52,935 --> 00:43:56,615
Speaker 4: like I've got a Bailey slim gen water tank attached

764
00:43:56,615 --> 00:43:59,575
Speaker 4: to the side of one of the garden sheds, so

765
00:44:00,335 --> 00:44:02,695
Speaker 4: I think it's probably actually a little bit less than

766
00:44:02,735 --> 00:44:04,535
Speaker 4: ten square meters. I'll go and measure it tonight when

767
00:44:04,575 --> 00:44:07,775
Speaker 4: I get home. But two hundred milimeters of rain on

768
00:44:07,815 --> 00:44:10,575
Speaker 4: a ten square meter roof to fill a two thousand

769
00:44:10,695 --> 00:44:15,935
Speaker 4: liter water tank, Now mine would fill up certainly this

770
00:44:16,015 --> 00:44:19,335
Speaker 4: time of year. And I don't know that we've had

771
00:44:19,415 --> 00:44:23,135
Speaker 4: two hundred millimeters of Oh maybe we have, so Auckland

772
00:44:23,175 --> 00:44:28,535
Speaker 4: gets about These are old figures. Auckland one thousand, one

773
00:44:28,575 --> 00:44:32,335
Speaker 4: hundred and eighteen millimeters of rain on average, or the

774
00:44:32,375 --> 00:44:39,975
Speaker 4: mean annual values between nineteen ninety one and twenty twenty one,

775
00:44:40,455 --> 00:44:43,375
Speaker 4: one hundred and eight. So five times, almost six times

776
00:44:43,375 --> 00:44:45,415
Speaker 4: I could fill up that two thousand meter water tank

777
00:44:45,895 --> 00:44:49,495
Speaker 4: just from the rain water that falls on that tiny

778
00:44:49,535 --> 00:44:53,175
Speaker 4: little shed that it's not quite on the boundary at

779
00:44:53,215 --> 00:44:55,615
Speaker 4: my place. If you've got a question about all of

780
00:44:55,655 --> 00:44:58,975
Speaker 4: these new regulations and rules, or putting together garden sheds

781
00:44:59,055 --> 00:45:01,175
Speaker 4: or what sort of garden shed you can have, and

782
00:45:01,255 --> 00:45:03,375
Speaker 4: what works we can talk about all of that. Oh,

783
00:45:03,375 --> 00:45:06,135
Speaker 4: eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call

784
00:45:06,295 --> 00:45:08,575
Speaker 4: a couple of texts as well. Someone would like to

785
00:45:08,615 --> 00:45:11,695
Speaker 4: build a pergole it with a roof, but need to

786
00:45:11,735 --> 00:45:13,975
Speaker 4: work out what to do with the runoff. Our house

787
00:45:14,095 --> 00:45:19,055
Speaker 4: is old, and the existing downpipes go into subs as

788
00:45:19,055 --> 00:45:24,855
Speaker 4: in soakage pits. If it's an older house, I would

789
00:45:27,535 --> 00:45:32,055
Speaker 4: not unreasonably conclude that the soakage pits that were built

790
00:45:32,215 --> 00:45:34,615
Speaker 4: or constructed at the time that the house was built

791
00:45:35,015 --> 00:45:41,095
Speaker 4: are probably useless right now. Basically, so, typically what would

792
00:45:41,135 --> 00:45:43,775
Speaker 4: have happened back in the day was they'd have maybe

793
00:45:43,775 --> 00:45:47,015
Speaker 4: a downpipe running into a couple of clay tiles that

794
00:45:47,055 --> 00:45:49,815
Speaker 4: would go out into the garden a little bit and

795
00:45:49,855 --> 00:45:52,815
Speaker 4: then into what would have been a soakage pit at

796
00:45:52,855 --> 00:45:54,615
Speaker 4: the time, they would have dug a hole in the ground.

797
00:45:54,895 --> 00:45:57,375
Speaker 4: They would have poured some scoria in there or some

798
00:45:57,415 --> 00:45:59,975
Speaker 4: sort of drainage material, and they would have covered it

799
00:46:00,015 --> 00:46:06,255
Speaker 4: over and over twenty years thirty forty fifty years the fine,

800
00:46:06,735 --> 00:46:10,335
Speaker 4: so just the soil would have infiltrated that and it

801
00:46:10,375 --> 00:46:14,015
Speaker 4: will be solid, in which case it offers no soakage

802
00:46:14,135 --> 00:46:18,335
Speaker 4: or dispersal at all anymore. So the stormwader will shoot

803
00:46:18,375 --> 00:46:22,095
Speaker 4: down the pipe into that, hit that and start flooding immediately.

804
00:46:23,495 --> 00:46:26,015
Speaker 4: So if you're adding on to your roof and you're

805
00:46:26,055 --> 00:46:30,535
Speaker 4: directing it into a system that already doesn't work, maybe

806
00:46:30,535 --> 00:46:33,575
Speaker 4: it's time to look at that changing that. Soakage pits

807
00:46:33,615 --> 00:46:38,455
Speaker 4: well designed and well built actually work in the right environment,

808
00:46:38,655 --> 00:46:40,095
Speaker 4: So you need to know a little bit about your

809
00:46:40,135 --> 00:46:44,375
Speaker 4: soil conditions, et cetera. Et cetera will work exceptionally well,

810
00:46:44,415 --> 00:46:47,215
Speaker 4: and I've done a couple of them that have been consented,

811
00:46:47,255 --> 00:46:52,495
Speaker 4: so they've been specifically designed during the design and build process.

812
00:46:54,215 --> 00:46:57,455
Speaker 4: But there's lots of detail around the geotextile cloth, the

813
00:46:57,575 --> 00:47:01,975
Speaker 4: type of material that you use inside it. I typically

814
00:47:02,055 --> 00:47:05,975
Speaker 4: will run drainage coil inside there to give it some

815
00:47:06,055 --> 00:47:08,735
Speaker 4: vol you because in these heavy downpaws, you've got this

816
00:47:08,935 --> 00:47:12,775
Speaker 4: rush of water. If it's heading the scoria, it kind

817
00:47:12,775 --> 00:47:15,455
Speaker 4: of stops and backs up, whereas if you've got as

818
00:47:15,455 --> 00:47:18,815
Speaker 4: I've done it a couple of times like that black Snake,

819
00:47:18,935 --> 00:47:21,935
Speaker 4: which is a drainage coil. You'd put ten or fifteen

820
00:47:21,975 --> 00:47:24,615
Speaker 4: meters of that into the air, which creates a volume,

821
00:47:24,935 --> 00:47:26,655
Speaker 4: and that's what the water goes into and then it

822
00:47:26,695 --> 00:47:31,695
Speaker 4: disperses out into the soakage pit from there. And that

823
00:47:31,895 --> 00:47:36,055
Speaker 4: been remarkably effective. Maybe not for all of your stormwater disposal,

824
00:47:36,815 --> 00:47:40,095
Speaker 4: but some of it. Absolutely So with considering oh, eight

825
00:47:40,215 --> 00:47:43,455
Speaker 4: hundred eighty ten eighty the number of call, and Margaret

826
00:47:43,775 --> 00:47:44,895
Speaker 4: a very good morning.

827
00:47:46,175 --> 00:47:51,255
Speaker 10: Oh huh, thank you, thank you taking my call. I

828
00:47:51,455 --> 00:47:56,695
Speaker 10: have a garden seat which we bought for my daughter

829
00:47:57,055 --> 00:48:02,015
Speaker 10: and I founded it and painted it with Danish.

830
00:48:01,535 --> 00:48:08,375
Speaker 12: Oil and it's got slapped back. It's very nice. They

831
00:48:08,535 --> 00:48:15,855
Speaker 12: curved flat, it went moldy, and so I bought some

832
00:48:16,135 --> 00:48:20,255
Speaker 12: prep Max and I've done it three times with prep

833
00:48:20,375 --> 00:48:26,295
Speaker 12: Max and I still have molds there. And I went

834
00:48:26,455 --> 00:48:32,975
Speaker 12: into Well mentioned and after advice on this and they said, look,

835
00:48:33,335 --> 00:48:38,015
Speaker 12: you can do it with an oil based or the

836
00:48:38,775 --> 00:48:44,335
Speaker 12: oil and I still get the mold through any advice,

837
00:48:44,535 --> 00:48:46,615
Speaker 12: How can I get rid of that mold because it

838
00:48:46,655 --> 00:48:47,415
Speaker 12: looks horrible.

839
00:48:47,975 --> 00:48:51,175
Speaker 4: Yeah, sure, I mean I like Danash oil. I'm not

840
00:48:51,215 --> 00:48:54,695
Speaker 4: sure that I would either use it on outdoor finture,

841
00:48:54,695 --> 00:48:58,375
Speaker 4: and I presume that that's what it is. Yes, And

842
00:48:58,535 --> 00:49:02,215
Speaker 4: is it a hardwood like a queiler or something like that. Yeah,

843
00:49:05,375 --> 00:49:08,055
Speaker 4: I suppose the other thing to when you're cleaning it,

844
00:49:08,775 --> 00:49:10,575
Speaker 4: you want to make sure you clean it like with

845
00:49:10,695 --> 00:49:14,175
Speaker 4: a proprietary outdoor cleaner. So something that's got a bit

846
00:49:14,175 --> 00:49:16,695
Speaker 4: of ammonia in it that will actually attack the mold

847
00:49:17,135 --> 00:49:19,935
Speaker 4: rather than just cleaning the surface and leaving the mold

848
00:49:19,975 --> 00:49:26,375
Speaker 4: in place. No I used mac Okay, all right, Okay,

849
00:49:27,935 --> 00:49:30,855
Speaker 4: then I think you know, some of the oils that

850
00:49:32,055 --> 00:49:35,975
Speaker 4: won't provide a barrier so they soak in will also

851
00:49:36,015 --> 00:49:39,775
Speaker 4: allow the mold to find somewhere to grow. So I'm

852
00:49:39,815 --> 00:49:43,575
Speaker 4: wondering whether something that actually gives you a coating on

853
00:49:43,695 --> 00:49:46,495
Speaker 4: the outside of the furniture is going to be a

854
00:49:46,535 --> 00:49:47,535
Speaker 4: better option for you.

855
00:49:48,775 --> 00:49:54,575
Speaker 12: Is that anything on the market that will suffocate the mold,

856
00:49:54,775 --> 00:49:56,975
Speaker 12: if you like, with a complete covering.

857
00:49:58,095 --> 00:50:00,655
Speaker 4: I think it's more it's not about suffocating the mold.

858
00:50:00,655 --> 00:50:03,415
Speaker 4: I suppose it's providing a barrier that means the mold

859
00:50:03,455 --> 00:50:08,535
Speaker 4: doesn't have somewhere to grow. Basically, so once it's thoroughly

860
00:50:08,575 --> 00:50:11,615
Speaker 4: cleaned and dried, and then you can give it a

861
00:50:11,655 --> 00:50:15,735
Speaker 4: coat that would I mean, nothing is going ultimately, nothing's

862
00:50:15,815 --> 00:50:16,855
Speaker 4: going to resist mold.

863
00:50:16,935 --> 00:50:17,135
Speaker 7: Right.

864
00:50:17,215 --> 00:50:21,455
Speaker 4: It's terribly effective, but it will give you a surface

865
00:50:21,495 --> 00:50:23,575
Speaker 4: that maybe you could clean. The other thing is that

866
00:50:25,135 --> 00:50:27,375
Speaker 4: you know, for outdoor furniture, is it the sort of

867
00:50:27,375 --> 00:50:29,895
Speaker 4: thing that you treat it once a year or you

868
00:50:29,975 --> 00:50:32,535
Speaker 4: bring it inside over winter so it's not sitting outside

869
00:50:32,535 --> 00:50:35,135
Speaker 4: in winter getting saturated and not getting a lot of

870
00:50:35,175 --> 00:50:38,015
Speaker 4: sun and not drying out, and then bring it out

871
00:50:38,015 --> 00:50:40,255
Speaker 4: again in the summertime, and then every now and then

872
00:50:40,295 --> 00:50:43,295
Speaker 4: give it a mold treatment. I would say that something

873
00:50:43,375 --> 00:50:46,295
Speaker 4: like the Razine Woodsman range, which is a range of

874
00:50:46,775 --> 00:50:51,175
Speaker 4: timber coatings, might work really well. I'm happy to put

875
00:50:51,215 --> 00:50:53,455
Speaker 4: that forward to Bryce, who's going to be with us

876
00:50:53,455 --> 00:50:56,495
Speaker 4: in about ten minutes, to see what his thoughts are.

877
00:50:56,615 --> 00:50:59,975
Speaker 4: So stay tuned for that. But I think you know,

878
00:51:00,535 --> 00:51:02,895
Speaker 4: like I said, I like Danish oil, I wouldn't. I

879
00:51:02,895 --> 00:51:04,895
Speaker 4: don't know if I'd use it on outdoor furniture.

880
00:51:05,575 --> 00:51:08,895
Speaker 12: No, I was. It was my mistake. I use it

881
00:51:08,975 --> 00:51:13,535
Speaker 12: on outdoor stuff, but it's getting rid of the molds.

882
00:51:13,655 --> 00:51:14,055
Speaker 7: I don't.

883
00:51:14,775 --> 00:51:18,295
Speaker 12: I said, I've used this prep max three times and

884
00:51:18,335 --> 00:51:22,775
Speaker 12: I've allowed it to dry three weeks after the first drive,

885
00:51:22,815 --> 00:51:26,535
Speaker 12: and then we've scrubbed it up again twice and it's

886
00:51:26,615 --> 00:51:30,375
Speaker 12: drying now and I've got rid of it, but it's

887
00:51:30,455 --> 00:51:33,695
Speaker 12: in between the slats. I had to buy special little

888
00:51:33,775 --> 00:51:37,055
Speaker 12: hard toothbrushes so that I could get in between.

889
00:51:37,615 --> 00:51:42,095
Speaker 4: Fat Oh right, yes, So I mean it's.

890
00:51:41,655 --> 00:51:44,975
Speaker 12: Been quite a job. It's taken us a long time

891
00:51:45,095 --> 00:51:48,095
Speaker 12: to clean and I I certainly don't want to be.

892
00:51:47,975 --> 00:51:48,775
Speaker 5: Having to do that.

893
00:51:52,495 --> 00:51:53,695
Speaker 12: Yeah, okay, but.

894
00:51:53,735 --> 00:51:56,295
Speaker 4: If you can, I'll put it to Bryce. You stay

895
00:51:56,335 --> 00:51:58,535
Speaker 4: listening for tea manutes. We'll we'll have a quick check

896
00:51:58,575 --> 00:52:02,415
Speaker 4: with Bryce about that. Nice of you to call. Thank you.

897
00:52:03,855 --> 00:52:05,975
Speaker 4: I've found the product, so it is. It's a timber

898
00:52:06,015 --> 00:52:11,935
Speaker 4: clean and prep product. That's okay. Well, anyway, we'll ask

899
00:52:11,935 --> 00:52:14,815
Speaker 4: Bryce about that as well. Hey, Roger, greetings to you, sir.

900
00:52:16,535 --> 00:52:26,175
Speaker 13: Yeah, very well, I said I've taken that electricians advice, yes,

901
00:52:26,255 --> 00:52:28,935
Speaker 13: and they've asked me to go to Disputure Trouble for

902
00:52:29,055 --> 00:52:32,615
Speaker 13: reasons you know why. Yes, I want to ask if

903
00:52:32,815 --> 00:52:36,055
Speaker 13: I take legal advice, which I just might, can I

904
00:52:36,175 --> 00:52:41,455
Speaker 13: pay that or at a dispute tribunal rulso over me?

905
00:52:42,095 --> 00:52:44,775
Speaker 13: Can I be reimbsed.

906
00:52:45,575 --> 00:52:48,535
Speaker 4: Uh, well, I guess you could make that part of

907
00:52:48,615 --> 00:52:52,135
Speaker 4: the costs that you're claiming against the electrician that did

908
00:52:52,175 --> 00:52:56,135
Speaker 4: the work, and so you know, you might say, well, look,

909
00:52:57,895 --> 00:52:59,695
Speaker 4: you know, I'm going to claim back the cost of

910
00:52:59,735 --> 00:53:01,935
Speaker 4: the work that you've done, and I'm going and it's

911
00:53:02,495 --> 00:53:04,775
Speaker 4: in order for me to get a resolution, I've had

912
00:53:04,815 --> 00:53:07,175
Speaker 4: to pay whatever you've had to pay to a lawyer,

913
00:53:07,575 --> 00:53:09,815
Speaker 4: and then it will be up to the referee at

914
00:53:09,855 --> 00:53:16,175
Speaker 4: the dispute stribunal to say whether or not they accept

915
00:53:16,215 --> 00:53:19,455
Speaker 4: that claim. And if they grant, you know, they make

916
00:53:19,455 --> 00:53:24,535
Speaker 4: a judgment in your favor, then that's enforceable. And I

917
00:53:24,535 --> 00:53:26,255
Speaker 4: guess this is the other thing about going to the

918
00:53:26,255 --> 00:53:30,495
Speaker 4: dispute tribunal is that if it's found in your favor,

919
00:53:30,535 --> 00:53:36,415
Speaker 4: if you're successful, then the judgment is enforceable by the courts.

920
00:53:36,455 --> 00:53:39,895
Speaker 4: And that's probably the biggest advantage of going to the

921
00:53:39,895 --> 00:53:42,575
Speaker 4: dispute tribunal is that you can then go to the

922
00:53:42,575 --> 00:53:47,175
Speaker 4: courts and have the court bailiff do the basically the

923
00:53:47,215 --> 00:53:51,615
Speaker 4: debt collecting. Yes, I would like to think that the

924
00:53:51,655 --> 00:53:55,095
Speaker 4: person would realize that they need to make this good

925
00:53:55,215 --> 00:53:58,375
Speaker 4: and act quickly to ensure that it doesn't get to

926
00:53:58,415 --> 00:53:59,535
Speaker 4: the dispute tribunal.

927
00:54:01,935 --> 00:54:03,375
Speaker 13: Well, you can take it to dispute.

928
00:54:07,375 --> 00:54:10,495
Speaker 4: Oh well, then then if that's his attitude, then I'd

929
00:54:10,495 --> 00:54:15,135
Speaker 4: be inclined to take him to the dispute tribunal. And

930
00:54:15,815 --> 00:54:19,095
Speaker 4: you know, well from the one experience I've had where

931
00:54:19,415 --> 00:54:23,455
Speaker 4: I went many many many years ago as a witness,

932
00:54:24,175 --> 00:54:26,855
Speaker 4: it was actually, I won't go into the details anyway,

933
00:54:27,975 --> 00:54:33,815
Speaker 4: the person who was kind of there to defend the claim,

934
00:54:33,895 --> 00:54:36,655
Speaker 4: let's say, didn't turn up, and so the judge or

935
00:54:36,695 --> 00:54:40,775
Speaker 4: the adjudicator simply awarded to the person that I was

936
00:54:40,895 --> 00:54:43,975
Speaker 4: going to be acting as a witness for awarded the

937
00:54:43,975 --> 00:54:47,615
Speaker 4: costs of them. So, look, it's terribly sad to hear

938
00:54:47,655 --> 00:54:50,095
Speaker 4: it get to this point, whereas it could have just

939
00:54:50,175 --> 00:54:52,975
Speaker 4: been resolved or it shouldn't have happened in the first place.

940
00:54:52,975 --> 00:54:56,575
Speaker 4: But I rarely do appreciate the updates. Roger, thank you

941
00:54:56,735 --> 00:54:58,615
Speaker 4: very much for that. Remember we're going to talk to

942
00:54:58,615 --> 00:55:01,655
Speaker 4: Bryce shortly, so if you've got any specific painting questions

943
00:55:01,935 --> 00:55:04,855
Speaker 4: text them through now. But right now, Lena, good morning

944
00:55:04,895 --> 00:55:05,175
Speaker 4: to you.

945
00:55:06,295 --> 00:55:10,295
Speaker 14: Good morning. I have a problem. At the back of

946
00:55:10,375 --> 00:55:13,935
Speaker 14: my shop. There is a fish shop and the chemists

947
00:55:13,975 --> 00:55:17,175
Speaker 14: shop next door to me. They have put new spouting

948
00:55:17,255 --> 00:55:23,415
Speaker 14: on their roofs, and they have attached their down pipes

949
00:55:23,575 --> 00:55:27,175
Speaker 14: onto my down pipes. They've actually put a connection in

950
00:55:27,215 --> 00:55:29,975
Speaker 14: the middle of my downpipe. Now, I've always had a

951
00:55:30,095 --> 00:55:34,375
Speaker 14: problem with the amount of water coming down at over

952
00:55:34,535 --> 00:55:36,575
Speaker 14: floats and it comes onto my back part of the

953
00:55:36,615 --> 00:55:38,695
Speaker 14: shop and I get wet feet every time I get

954
00:55:39,055 --> 00:55:42,015
Speaker 14: out of the car. Is it legal to put down

955
00:55:42,095 --> 00:55:44,335
Speaker 14: pipes onto somebody else's down pope?

956
00:55:45,255 --> 00:55:48,815
Speaker 4: It would depend on whether or not, Like do you

957
00:55:49,015 --> 00:55:49,975
Speaker 4: own the shop?

958
00:55:50,935 --> 00:55:55,695
Speaker 14: I own the shop, but I know the chemists shop

959
00:55:55,815 --> 00:55:59,655
Speaker 14: is rented. I'm not sure about the fish shop. But

960
00:56:00,535 --> 00:56:04,975
Speaker 14: the shop that you had a big roof, yes, So

961
00:56:05,015 --> 00:56:06,175
Speaker 14: there's a lot of water coming.

962
00:56:07,015 --> 00:56:09,175
Speaker 4: So the shop that you own, or that the shop

963
00:56:09,215 --> 00:56:11,415
Speaker 4: that you use or the building you use for your

964
00:56:11,455 --> 00:56:15,335
Speaker 4: shop is a building that you own, yes, yes, And

965
00:56:15,415 --> 00:56:21,615
Speaker 4: so the downpipe is your downpipe, yes, and the adjacent

966
00:56:21,655 --> 00:56:23,775
Speaker 4: building is somebody else's building.

967
00:56:24,615 --> 00:56:24,855
Speaker 7: Yes.

968
00:56:26,335 --> 00:56:27,375
Speaker 4: I don't think that.

969
00:56:27,335 --> 00:56:32,575
Speaker 14: They buildings two different buildings that they've joined there the

970
00:56:32,695 --> 00:56:36,095
Speaker 14: downpipe onto the middle of my downpipe. It hasn't even

971
00:56:36,095 --> 00:56:39,495
Speaker 14: gone down through to the boundary, and there is now

972
00:56:39,535 --> 00:56:41,535
Speaker 14: at this time of the year, there's amount of water

973
00:56:41,655 --> 00:56:43,455
Speaker 14: going down those roofs.

974
00:56:44,495 --> 00:56:49,335
Speaker 4: So I think that that's cheeky is probably the nicest

975
00:56:49,375 --> 00:56:53,615
Speaker 4: way to describe it. There are there are other more

976
00:56:53,775 --> 00:56:56,855
Speaker 4: colorful ways of describing it. But I think that what

977
00:56:56,895 --> 00:57:01,535
Speaker 4: they've done is not correct, right, So they've they've taken

978
00:57:01,575 --> 00:57:04,295
Speaker 4: an easy option. They've hoped that no one would spot it.

979
00:57:04,695 --> 00:57:07,575
Speaker 4: But you have spotted it, and good on you. I

980
00:57:07,615 --> 00:57:09,895
Speaker 4: would be going to the owner of the company.

981
00:57:10,055 --> 00:57:13,735
Speaker 14: So I, yeah, I think it's a wet feet that

982
00:57:13,895 --> 00:57:14,615
Speaker 14: made me notice.

983
00:57:14,775 --> 00:57:17,735
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, yeah, you know, I mean because there's all

984
00:57:17,735 --> 00:57:22,695
Speaker 4: sorts of calculations right around roof space, size of spouting,

985
00:57:22,855 --> 00:57:27,935
Speaker 4: size of downpipes, right, so you know, we know that

986
00:57:28,015 --> 00:57:32,255
Speaker 4: a downpipe of a certain diameter will accommodate x amount

987
00:57:32,335 --> 00:57:36,295
Speaker 4: of square meters of roof. So tripling that amount and

988
00:57:36,335 --> 00:57:39,415
Speaker 4: putting it into one downpipe is going to overload that

989
00:57:39,495 --> 00:57:44,095
Speaker 4: downpipe most likely. So I would suggest that a phone

990
00:57:44,095 --> 00:57:47,295
Speaker 4: call to the owner of the adjacent property because they've

991
00:57:47,295 --> 00:57:50,175
Speaker 4: paid the bill, right, probably right.

992
00:57:50,255 --> 00:57:53,215
Speaker 14: So I also want to know, is you I just

993
00:57:53,455 --> 00:57:57,655
Speaker 14: I thought that all these downpipes were into another underground

994
00:57:58,055 --> 00:58:01,295
Speaker 14: down pipe that went out onto the street connected with

995
00:58:01,415 --> 00:58:04,815
Speaker 14: the city council pipes. But am I wrong about that.

996
00:58:04,975 --> 00:58:06,975
Speaker 14: Is downpipes just going.

997
00:58:06,815 --> 00:58:08,975
Speaker 4: In Oh no, no, no, please, please don't get the

998
00:58:08,975 --> 00:58:11,775
Speaker 4: impression that all down pipes go you know, into a

999
00:58:11,815 --> 00:58:14,975
Speaker 4: sump or or into a some sort of soakage. But

1000
00:58:15,135 --> 00:58:18,815
Speaker 4: the majority would be connected to stormwater. So there's there's

1001
00:58:18,975 --> 00:58:22,735
Speaker 4: different ways of controlling stormwater. Somemers you directed into the

1002
00:58:22,775 --> 00:58:26,615
Speaker 4: council infrastructure. Somers you directed into the ground because you've

1003
00:58:26,615 --> 00:58:29,575
Speaker 4: got good drainage into the ground. Sometimes you use a

1004
00:58:29,615 --> 00:58:32,135
Speaker 4: tank and then you have a controlled discharge from there.

1005
00:58:32,655 --> 00:58:35,095
Speaker 4: Sometimes you can do soakage p It's his any number

1006
00:58:35,135 --> 00:58:41,375
Speaker 4: of ways of controlling stormwater. But certainly, and look, it's

1007
00:58:41,415 --> 00:58:44,295
Speaker 4: possible that the owner of the building doesn't even realize

1008
00:58:44,335 --> 00:58:47,655
Speaker 4: what their contractors have done. Right, So the contractors have

1009
00:58:47,735 --> 00:58:50,295
Speaker 4: come along, they've gone, we'll put some new spouting on

1010
00:58:50,415 --> 00:58:52,055
Speaker 4: and hey, what we'll do is we'll just cut a

1011
00:58:52,095 --> 00:58:54,815
Speaker 4: socket into here, whack a a junction, plug it into

1012
00:58:54,855 --> 00:58:55,895
Speaker 4: their job done.

1013
00:58:56,815 --> 00:58:57,015
Speaker 7: You know.

1014
00:58:58,055 --> 00:59:03,295
Speaker 14: Oh yeah, I'm afraid I'm bit innocent about drainages and things.

1015
00:59:03,335 --> 00:59:07,495
Speaker 14: The buildings have been up since nineteen sixty six, always doom.

1016
00:59:07,695 --> 00:59:09,855
Speaker 14: It's a you know, it's got a big yard back,

1017
00:59:10,215 --> 00:59:13,135
Speaker 14: you know which most shopping centers have where Man, they've

1018
00:59:13,135 --> 00:59:17,975
Speaker 14: got something in the middle. But I don't think it's okay.

1019
00:59:20,335 --> 00:59:21,655
Speaker 14: It could be interesting.

1020
00:59:22,015 --> 00:59:25,335
Speaker 4: Look, and I think the first you know this, you

1021
00:59:25,455 --> 00:59:27,415
Speaker 4: ring the owner of the building next door and just

1022
00:59:27,455 --> 00:59:28,975
Speaker 4: go hey, look, can we have a chat about this,

1023
00:59:29,015 --> 00:59:32,215
Speaker 4: because it's just been pointed out that when your guys,

1024
00:59:32,335 --> 00:59:35,255
Speaker 4: when your contractors came to do the work, what they've

1025
00:59:35,295 --> 00:59:37,695
Speaker 4: done is this, And I don't think they should have

1026
00:59:38,615 --> 00:59:42,135
Speaker 4: And I can pretty much guarantee that that's not what

1027
00:59:42,175 --> 00:59:47,255
Speaker 4: they should have done. There still water they collect.

1028
00:59:47,615 --> 00:59:53,455
Speaker 14: They not not politically correct. It's still legal to join

1029
00:59:53,575 --> 00:59:56,015
Speaker 14: us up to my downpipe, but not politically correct.

1030
00:59:56,095 --> 00:59:57,935
Speaker 4: No, no, no, I don't think it's even legal.

1031
00:59:58,335 --> 00:59:58,535
Speaker 6: Right.

1032
01:00:01,055 --> 01:00:04,815
Speaker 14: Yes, I am going to get and I'm going to

1033
01:00:04,895 --> 01:00:07,775
Speaker 14: talk to Thank you, go, thank you very much.

1034
01:00:07,815 --> 01:00:10,535
Speaker 4: All right, Lena, lovely to talk to you.

1035
01:00:10,095 --> 01:00:10,375
Speaker 7: Okay.

1036
01:00:12,775 --> 01:00:17,135
Speaker 4: Oh it's just so cheeky, isn't it. I'm going to

1037
01:00:17,135 --> 01:00:19,335
Speaker 4: wax some new spouting on and I'm just going to

1038
01:00:19,375 --> 01:00:25,855
Speaker 4: plug it into the neighbors storm water. Oh, that'll be

1039
01:00:25,855 --> 01:00:28,855
Speaker 4: a really interesting one to follow, ridy oh after the break,

1040
01:00:28,975 --> 01:00:31,895
Speaker 4: Bryce is here Text three ye questions, oh wait to

1041
01:00:32,135 --> 01:00:35,335
Speaker 4: nine to nine to two. Bryce from Razine along with

1042
01:00:35,415 --> 01:00:36,575
Speaker 4: us straight after.

1043
01:00:36,375 --> 01:00:38,695
Speaker 3: The break doing other house storting.

1044
01:00:38,735 --> 01:00:41,935
Speaker 1: The garden asked Pete for ahead the resident builder with

1045
01:00:42,095 --> 01:00:43,695
Speaker 1: Peter wolfkep call eight.

1046
01:00:45,295 --> 01:00:48,815
Speaker 4: Talks'd be your news talks. He'd be our painting expert.

1047
01:00:48,935 --> 01:00:51,615
Speaker 4: Bryce from Razine is with us in a very good

1048
01:00:51,615 --> 01:00:56,975
Speaker 4: morning to you. Bryce, Good morning greetings. Yeah, well, a

1049
01:00:57,015 --> 01:01:00,175
Speaker 4: little bit chilly this morning, and I guess that's a

1050
01:01:00,215 --> 01:01:02,815
Speaker 4: good segue into the fact that you know, in some

1051
01:01:02,895 --> 01:01:05,855
Speaker 4: cases we want to keep painting even in winter. So

1052
01:01:05,935 --> 01:01:07,375
Speaker 4: what are the tips and trucks there.

1053
01:01:08,695 --> 01:01:11,255
Speaker 7: Well, the first thing that brings to mind is that

1054
01:01:11,655 --> 01:01:16,015
Speaker 7: there might be, you know, a reasonably paintable day sort

1055
01:01:16,055 --> 01:01:19,335
Speaker 7: of things such a yes, there's no cloud at the moment,

1056
01:01:19,375 --> 01:01:22,775
Speaker 7: but it's very cold. But depending on the surface you're painting,

1057
01:01:22,815 --> 01:01:25,055
Speaker 7: you might find that the surface that you're painting is

1058
01:01:25,095 --> 01:01:28,495
Speaker 7: probably a lot colder than the surrounding atmosphere. So that's

1059
01:01:28,535 --> 01:01:31,255
Speaker 7: something to keep in mind when you when you're going

1060
01:01:31,335 --> 01:01:33,255
Speaker 7: to put some paint on something, you just have to

1061
01:01:33,295 --> 01:01:38,055
Speaker 7: think and yeah, because it's a lot colder, your paint

1062
01:01:38,135 --> 01:01:40,775
Speaker 7: system is not going to gure properly, might even might

1063
01:01:40,815 --> 01:01:42,575
Speaker 7: even run off if it gets hit by a dew

1064
01:01:42,735 --> 01:01:43,615
Speaker 7: or something like that.

1065
01:01:46,615 --> 01:01:50,175
Speaker 4: So are there like editives you can add to paint.

1066
01:01:50,495 --> 01:01:52,255
Speaker 4: You've got to be cautious with the additives.

1067
01:01:52,255 --> 01:01:55,455
Speaker 7: A yeah, you've got to follow the direction right carefully.

1068
01:01:56,375 --> 01:01:58,855
Speaker 7: We do have winter grade additive that you can put

1069
01:01:58,895 --> 01:02:04,175
Speaker 7: into water board paints. Yes, we also have one called

1070
01:02:04,295 --> 01:02:07,215
Speaker 7: umbrella additives that you can add if you suspecting that

1071
01:02:07,255 --> 01:02:10,615
Speaker 7: there might be a very light shower coming. But never

1072
01:02:10,775 --> 01:02:12,775
Speaker 7: mixed the two editors together.

1073
01:02:12,935 --> 01:02:14,615
Speaker 4: Right, Okay, one or the other.

1074
01:02:18,135 --> 01:02:22,215
Speaker 7: It was very sick, so a gooey mess. Right.

1075
01:02:23,335 --> 01:02:24,415
Speaker 4: I tell you what I was.

1076
01:02:24,575 --> 01:02:24,895
Speaker 9: I was.

1077
01:02:25,135 --> 01:02:27,055
Speaker 4: I've been doing some work at the back of my place,

1078
01:02:27,095 --> 01:02:30,215
Speaker 4: which is replacing balustrades. Right, So I did the bulk

1079
01:02:30,255 --> 01:02:34,135
Speaker 4: of the painting inside the workshop and then I installed

1080
01:02:34,175 --> 01:02:37,775
Speaker 4: the balustrades the other day, filled all of the holes

1081
01:02:37,815 --> 01:02:40,135
Speaker 4: where i'd fix them to the posts, and then I

1082
01:02:40,295 --> 01:02:43,495
Speaker 4: was painting the top rails. Now, this was on a Saturday,

1083
01:02:43,535 --> 01:02:45,535
Speaker 4: a couple a week or so ago. It was a

1084
01:02:45,575 --> 01:02:50,695
Speaker 4: really lovely day. I was amazed at like I was thinking, well,

1085
01:02:50,735 --> 01:02:53,695
Speaker 4: because it's winter and it's you know, it hasn't been

1086
01:02:53,735 --> 01:02:56,295
Speaker 4: fantastic weather, I'll be able to paint at like one

1087
01:02:56,335 --> 01:02:59,855
Speaker 4: o'clock in the afternoon, admittedly north facing, but it was

1088
01:02:59,935 --> 01:03:03,095
Speaker 4: amazing how quickly, you know, Like typically I'd always not

1089
01:03:03,215 --> 01:03:05,375
Speaker 4: paint in direct sunlight, and I thought, middle of winter,

1090
01:03:05,455 --> 01:03:09,135
Speaker 4: why not, But it was. It was going off so fast.

1091
01:03:10,655 --> 01:03:14,735
Speaker 4: It's quite amazing. Even in middle of winter, still goes

1092
01:03:14,775 --> 01:03:16,815
Speaker 4: off pretty quick if it's in direct sunlight.

1093
01:03:17,455 --> 01:03:21,095
Speaker 7: Yes, yeah, yeah, even then when you know, if it

1094
01:03:21,175 --> 01:03:24,855
Speaker 7: feels dry, yeah, on the surface, it's it's still doing

1095
01:03:24,895 --> 01:03:27,975
Speaker 7: its business underneath it, right, It takes a little while

1096
01:03:28,015 --> 01:03:31,935
Speaker 7: for the process to work. Yeah, so you know, that's

1097
01:03:31,975 --> 01:03:35,535
Speaker 7: why another reason that you should stop it around about

1098
01:03:35,535 --> 01:03:38,415
Speaker 7: one o'clock, two o'clock maybe the latest in the wintertime,

1099
01:03:39,015 --> 01:03:41,535
Speaker 7: because once the dew settles on it, you know, if

1100
01:03:41,535 --> 01:03:43,935
Speaker 7: it's not cured properly, that can affect it as well.

1101
01:03:44,335 --> 01:03:46,015
Speaker 4: Yeah, well that was the interesting thing sort of what

1102
01:03:46,215 --> 01:03:50,135
Speaker 4: you know, waiting in the morning for the jew to evaporate. Basically,

1103
01:03:50,175 --> 01:03:52,655
Speaker 4: it was probably about eleven o'clock before it looked like

1104
01:03:52,695 --> 01:03:55,295
Speaker 4: it was reasonably dry and a little bit warmer, and

1105
01:03:55,335 --> 01:03:57,255
Speaker 4: then by the time i'd prepped it and got some

1106
01:03:57,335 --> 01:04:00,375
Speaker 4: paint on it, it was it was well drying. So

1107
01:04:00,815 --> 01:04:03,935
Speaker 4: but yeah, I did stop. I hope early enough, but

1108
01:04:04,015 --> 01:04:06,175
Speaker 4: I'll do my top coat on a day where prepsic

1109
01:04:06,215 --> 01:04:07,975
Speaker 4: is not as much drig sunlight.

1110
01:04:08,735 --> 01:04:12,735
Speaker 7: And you know, maybe just a nice gentle breeze as well, or.

1111
01:04:14,415 --> 01:04:17,415
Speaker 4: Okay, well it might even be today. Right, let's get

1112
01:04:17,455 --> 01:04:19,575
Speaker 4: into a couple of texts. Morning. Can you tell me

1113
01:04:19,615 --> 01:04:22,895
Speaker 4: what is the best product for painting outdoor steps to

1114
01:04:23,015 --> 01:04:26,815
Speaker 4: prevent slipping? Is it as effective as buying those strips

1115
01:04:26,855 --> 01:04:29,215
Speaker 4: that you put down on each of the steps. So

1116
01:04:30,895 --> 01:04:34,935
Speaker 4: let's assume that these are timber steps. Let's say, what

1117
01:04:35,015 --> 01:04:38,415
Speaker 4: will you do to get some anti slip on there.

1118
01:04:40,695 --> 01:04:44,535
Speaker 7: Well, we do have a water borne paving paint called

1119
01:04:44,615 --> 01:04:49,575
Speaker 7: walk on, which is incredibly non slip. Wow, I've got

1120
01:04:49,575 --> 01:04:54,335
Speaker 7: more front concrete steps painted in it, and they're exposed

1121
01:04:54,375 --> 01:04:56,255
Speaker 7: to the weather and they get water settling on them.

1122
01:04:58,215 --> 01:05:01,255
Speaker 7: It remains pretty much non slip. But it's quite good

1123
01:05:02,575 --> 01:05:05,175
Speaker 7: with the timber steps. Obviously, you'll have to do the

1124
01:05:05,215 --> 01:05:08,815
Speaker 7: correct preparation to make sure the timber is nice and dry,

1125
01:05:08,895 --> 01:05:12,735
Speaker 7: of course, and you know any bossom mold checks for

1126
01:05:12,815 --> 01:05:16,055
Speaker 7: that and based wood private depending on the timber.

1127
01:05:17,535 --> 01:05:21,895
Speaker 4: And that's called walk on, yes, because this is one

1128
01:05:21,895 --> 01:05:25,095
Speaker 4: of the in fact, sometimes now with building consents and

1129
01:05:25,215 --> 01:05:28,575
Speaker 4: sign offs. Council. If you know, like it's an older

1130
01:05:28,615 --> 01:05:31,095
Speaker 4: style house and you've got some timber steps like I

1131
01:05:31,095 --> 01:05:33,055
Speaker 4: do at home, and it sounds like you do as well,

1132
01:05:33,695 --> 01:05:36,855
Speaker 4: council will actually ask what have you done to ensure

1133
01:05:37,215 --> 01:05:40,215
Speaker 4: that it's got some sort of slip resistance, so that

1134
01:05:40,295 --> 01:05:43,215
Speaker 4: walk on could be the solution there, I.

1135
01:05:43,175 --> 01:05:47,015
Speaker 7: Mean, you could. You can add more grit if you wish.

1136
01:05:48,135 --> 01:05:53,015
Speaker 7: You know, a lot of people will broadcast over the

1137
01:05:53,055 --> 01:05:55,655
Speaker 7: top of the coating while it's still wet so that

1138
01:05:55,735 --> 01:05:57,775
Speaker 7: it actually adheres to the coating, and then you can

1139
01:05:57,815 --> 01:06:00,215
Speaker 7: actually seal it in with another coat to give yourself

1140
01:06:00,615 --> 01:06:03,175
Speaker 7: a bit more slip resistance if you feel that you

1141
01:06:03,255 --> 01:06:03,535
Speaker 7: need to.

1142
01:06:03,695 --> 01:06:06,775
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've done that, but I tend to mark like

1143
01:06:06,815 --> 01:06:08,735
Speaker 4: a little strip. So I'll do a first coat, then

1144
01:06:08,735 --> 01:06:11,815
Speaker 4: I'll mask it. Then I'll broadcast some sand into that area.

1145
01:06:11,975 --> 01:06:14,895
Speaker 4: We'll mix up like a paint paste with the sand

1146
01:06:15,015 --> 01:06:17,175
Speaker 4: in some of the paint that I'm using, and then

1147
01:06:17,375 --> 01:06:19,735
Speaker 4: go over the top again. And you know, it's kind

1148
01:06:19,735 --> 01:06:21,055
Speaker 4: of neat that way as well.

1149
01:06:22,695 --> 01:06:22,855
Speaker 6: Now.

1150
01:06:22,935 --> 01:06:27,535
Speaker 4: Actually, just prior to this, we were talking with Margaret

1151
01:06:27,815 --> 01:06:33,095
Speaker 4: who had some quila outdoor furniture and actually they ended

1152
01:06:33,135 --> 01:06:35,575
Speaker 4: up using like a Danish oil to treat it. But

1153
01:06:35,655 --> 01:06:39,375
Speaker 4: of course that's not providing a barrier to mold. So

1154
01:06:39,535 --> 01:06:42,335
Speaker 4: if you were looking to clean and prep some outdoor

1155
01:06:42,375 --> 01:06:45,215
Speaker 4: furniture and then give it a coat that would prevent

1156
01:06:45,295 --> 01:06:46,575
Speaker 4: mold growth, what would you do?

1157
01:06:48,855 --> 01:06:51,055
Speaker 7: I would probably, you know, now that they've used an oil,

1158
01:06:51,775 --> 01:06:54,895
Speaker 7: you know, you're really sort of stuck with the using

1159
01:06:54,935 --> 01:06:58,415
Speaker 7: an oil, right, Yeah, you can't put normal stains or

1160
01:06:58,535 --> 01:07:00,415
Speaker 7: you know, like a film form and coating over the

1161
01:07:00,415 --> 01:07:02,695
Speaker 7: top of it. I would think depending on the properties

1162
01:07:02,735 --> 01:07:07,095
Speaker 7: of the oil, it may be that the mold regards

1163
01:07:07,255 --> 01:07:10,095
Speaker 7: the Danish oil as food to grow on it quite

1164
01:07:10,175 --> 01:07:13,455
Speaker 7: quite rapidly. You know. There's all sorts of things that

1165
01:07:13,495 --> 01:07:18,055
Speaker 7: can happen. I would probably, you know, just give it

1166
01:07:18,095 --> 01:07:20,575
Speaker 7: a gingle moss and mold treatment every so often, and

1167
01:07:20,615 --> 01:07:23,415
Speaker 7: give it a hose down, you know, and and a

1168
01:07:23,495 --> 01:07:27,695
Speaker 7: light brushing to remove all the dead mold and dust

1169
01:07:27,735 --> 01:07:30,055
Speaker 7: and dirt and stuff like that, and then re oil.

1170
01:07:30,815 --> 01:07:34,655
Speaker 7: It's it's with timber and oils and things like that.

1171
01:07:34,775 --> 01:07:36,415
Speaker 7: It's best to carry on with.

1172
01:07:36,415 --> 01:07:40,175
Speaker 4: What you started with, right, Okay, So that might be

1173
01:07:40,415 --> 01:07:43,335
Speaker 4: quite difficult to change. It's that whole systems thing, isn't it.

1174
01:07:43,335 --> 01:07:46,015
Speaker 4: Once you've started a system, particularly for outdoors, you need

1175
01:07:46,015 --> 01:07:47,935
Speaker 4: to stay with that system.

1176
01:07:48,015 --> 01:07:52,455
Speaker 7: Yes, exactly, okay, same with timber decks and yeah, and

1177
01:07:52,575 --> 01:07:56,015
Speaker 7: at a like a stained house or a mineral oiled

1178
01:07:56,015 --> 01:07:58,855
Speaker 7: house or you know, just stick with what you've got

1179
01:07:58,895 --> 01:08:01,335
Speaker 7: and you'll be you won't have any problems. Yeah.

1180
01:08:01,375 --> 01:08:06,015
Speaker 4: Sure, someone who has John has a textured plaster ceiling

1181
01:08:06,415 --> 01:08:09,375
Speaker 4: and has had a pot of oil fire in the kitchen,

1182
01:08:09,895 --> 01:08:12,215
Speaker 4: is there a paint that I can use to save

1183
01:08:12,415 --> 01:08:13,295
Speaker 4: me cleaning it?

1184
01:08:13,415 --> 01:08:13,535
Speaker 9: So?

1185
01:08:13,935 --> 01:08:17,295
Speaker 4: It sounds like the oil on the cook top has

1186
01:08:17,415 --> 01:08:19,455
Speaker 4: had or crowded a bit of a fire. There's probably

1187
01:08:19,495 --> 01:08:22,455
Speaker 4: a bit of smoke damage on the ceiling. What's the

1188
01:08:22,495 --> 01:08:23,575
Speaker 4: remediation there?

1189
01:08:24,815 --> 01:08:28,495
Speaker 7: Well, you'd have to if it's a texted ceiling, obviously

1190
01:08:28,575 --> 01:08:32,615
Speaker 7: it's going to be quite difficult to clean. Yes, you

1191
01:08:32,775 --> 01:08:38,935
Speaker 7: need some sort of material cleaning to remove the grease

1192
01:08:39,055 --> 01:08:43,495
Speaker 7: and soot then whatever the fire has created on the ceiling.

1193
01:08:46,015 --> 01:08:48,855
Speaker 7: We do have a product or HEAVGD paint prep and degreaser,

1194
01:08:49,175 --> 01:08:51,855
Speaker 7: which you know we'll probably do that for You Just

1195
01:08:51,935 --> 01:08:55,015
Speaker 7: need a soft bristle brush, mix it with water and

1196
01:08:55,415 --> 01:09:00,175
Speaker 7: scrub that away. Let it dry, and I would consider

1197
01:09:01,695 --> 01:09:05,455
Speaker 7: going to oil based sure seal once you've cleaned the

1198
01:09:05,495 --> 01:09:09,575
Speaker 7: ceiling to a point that it'll accept paint, yes, and

1199
01:09:09,615 --> 01:09:13,215
Speaker 7: then you know, a couple of coats of you know,

1200
01:09:14,655 --> 01:09:16,695
Speaker 7: you know, well, obviously it might not be a ceiling

1201
01:09:16,695 --> 01:09:18,655
Speaker 7: flat in the kitchen. It might be a semi gloss

1202
01:09:18,735 --> 01:09:21,535
Speaker 7: or something like that, and just recoat over the shoes sell.

1203
01:09:21,935 --> 01:09:25,895
Speaker 4: Okay, brilliant. He's an interesting one. And this is like

1204
01:09:25,975 --> 01:09:28,335
Speaker 4: most of us who have got some old paint left

1205
01:09:28,375 --> 01:09:30,855
Speaker 4: over in the shed and out the back and under

1206
01:09:30,855 --> 01:09:34,335
Speaker 4: the house. How long does unused paint in a plastic

1207
01:09:34,375 --> 01:09:36,455
Speaker 4: container last.

1208
01:09:36,615 --> 01:09:41,215
Speaker 7: Depends on how well it was sealed right, and if

1209
01:09:41,255 --> 01:09:44,215
Speaker 7: the you know, if it's you know, the half a

1210
01:09:44,255 --> 01:09:46,815
Speaker 7: bucket or something like that, you know, there's always a

1211
01:09:46,935 --> 01:09:50,695
Speaker 7: chance that you'll get a sort of creeping under the

1212
01:09:50,695 --> 01:09:54,335
Speaker 7: lid and stuff like that. So I've heard tell some

1213
01:09:54,375 --> 01:09:57,815
Speaker 7: people put a layer of greaseproof paper on top of

1214
01:09:57,855 --> 01:10:02,055
Speaker 7: the paint before they seal the bucket. Either that or

1215
01:10:02,135 --> 01:10:05,575
Speaker 7: once they've hammered the lid on, they turn it upside down, yes,

1216
01:10:05,735 --> 01:10:07,815
Speaker 7: which is which is a little bit dangerous, just in

1217
01:10:07,815 --> 01:10:10,575
Speaker 7: case you get a leak or something like that there.

1218
01:10:13,055 --> 01:10:13,095
Speaker 14: Is.

1219
01:10:13,295 --> 01:10:15,535
Speaker 7: There is obviously a cut off period that you know

1220
01:10:16,135 --> 01:10:19,175
Speaker 7: paint will last in a bucket. You know, if you

1221
01:10:19,255 --> 01:10:21,735
Speaker 7: take the lid off and it really starts to smell

1222
01:10:21,895 --> 01:10:25,375
Speaker 7: yes bad, then you know that's a very good indication.

1223
01:10:25,535 --> 01:10:29,815
Speaker 7: But it depends, you know, it's it really depends on

1224
01:10:29,855 --> 01:10:32,415
Speaker 7: how well it was stored and sealed in the first place.

1225
01:10:32,535 --> 01:10:37,215
Speaker 4: Right, But I think certainly if it smells bad, it's

1226
01:10:37,255 --> 01:10:40,015
Speaker 4: time to bring it in and take it in for recycling.

1227
01:10:40,655 --> 01:10:40,975
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1228
01:10:41,015 --> 01:10:44,855
Speaker 4: Absolutely, Yeah, someone who has an open fireplace with the

1229
01:10:44,895 --> 01:10:49,135
Speaker 4: bricks around, can the bricks be painted successfully? At the

1230
01:10:49,175 --> 01:10:51,575
Speaker 4: top the bricks do get a little bit hot? I

1231
01:10:51,615 --> 01:10:53,695
Speaker 4: suppose the other option is tiling. But if you did

1232
01:10:53,695 --> 01:10:56,535
Speaker 4: want to paint it, accepting the fact that you'll see

1233
01:10:56,535 --> 01:11:00,695
Speaker 4: smoke damage over time painting bricks inside, what would you do?

1234
01:11:02,135 --> 01:11:04,415
Speaker 7: It depends on the type of brick, but just a

1235
01:11:04,495 --> 01:11:09,255
Speaker 7: normal flat, unglazed brick, then you know out with the

1236
01:11:09,295 --> 01:11:13,055
Speaker 7: shore seal again to seal off the bricks, and that

1237
01:11:13,175 --> 01:11:15,615
Speaker 7: I would I would just use a standard of cuillock

1238
01:11:15,695 --> 01:11:18,735
Speaker 7: over the top, you know, like lumberside or something like that,

1239
01:11:18,855 --> 01:11:21,535
Speaker 7: something that's easy to recope and just keep things looking

1240
01:11:21,535 --> 01:11:25,215
Speaker 7: good and it's got a low gloss level, so you

1241
01:11:25,215 --> 01:11:27,455
Speaker 7: don't want you know, you don't want something too shiny

1242
01:11:27,535 --> 01:11:29,335
Speaker 7: or on a brick setter, so I wouldn't imagine.

1243
01:11:29,535 --> 01:11:34,175
Speaker 4: Right, that's fantastic, and i'll tell you what. We've actually

1244
01:11:34,175 --> 01:11:35,775
Speaker 4: got someone who's phoned through, so we'll see if we

1245
01:11:35,775 --> 01:11:38,935
Speaker 4: can get Allen on the line as well, which I

1246
01:11:38,975 --> 01:11:41,615
Speaker 4: can't do. Unfortunately, I haven't got the conference sorted out.

1247
01:11:42,015 --> 01:11:46,375
Speaker 4: Another quick question then, someone who's recoating native timber floors

1248
01:11:46,575 --> 01:11:50,775
Speaker 4: with razine polyurethane. It's been so cold we've been holding

1249
01:11:50,775 --> 01:11:53,895
Speaker 4: off doing the last couple of rooms. What are the

1250
01:11:53,975 --> 01:11:57,735
Speaker 4: rules around temperature when applying polyurethane paint?

1251
01:11:59,615 --> 01:12:02,415
Speaker 7: Well, again, it depends on the poly earthing, right, there

1252
01:12:03,135 --> 01:12:05,895
Speaker 7: are a number of I mean, there's moist cured poly

1253
01:12:05,935 --> 01:12:09,095
Speaker 7: eurythinge for instance, that we we sell, but we don't

1254
01:12:09,095 --> 01:12:12,615
Speaker 7: sell too much of it anymore. But we also have

1255
01:12:13,375 --> 01:12:20,135
Speaker 7: water bon one K and two K polyurothanes. I would

1256
01:12:20,295 --> 01:12:23,495
Speaker 7: consult the data sheets on those, you know too, for

1257
01:12:23,575 --> 01:12:27,295
Speaker 7: admittimum temperature and stuff like that. If it's a really

1258
01:12:27,335 --> 01:12:29,735
Speaker 7: cold room or something like that, Yes, you may get

1259
01:12:29,735 --> 01:12:35,415
Speaker 7: some affection, you know, some some areas affected, but you

1260
01:12:35,495 --> 01:12:38,895
Speaker 7: know inside it's you know, if you can introduce some

1261
01:12:38,895 --> 01:12:42,455
Speaker 7: some warmth from another room and just have a bit

1262
01:12:42,495 --> 01:12:46,975
Speaker 7: of you know, extraction and ventilation, it might be all right.

1263
01:12:47,055 --> 01:12:50,135
Speaker 7: But I would follow the instructions on the data sheet

1264
01:12:50,215 --> 01:12:51,575
Speaker 7: for each individual product.

1265
01:12:51,935 --> 01:12:54,015
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, and the.

1266
01:12:54,015 --> 01:12:56,575
Speaker 7: Data sheets are available on our website. You just have

1267
01:12:56,655 --> 01:12:59,695
Speaker 7: to step to look for them, and you can download

1268
01:12:59,695 --> 01:13:01,415
Speaker 7: them and print as many copies.

1269
01:13:01,095 --> 01:13:04,095
Speaker 4: As you want, or just save it to your phone

1270
01:13:04,095 --> 01:13:06,295
Speaker 4: and read it that way. Let's see if we can

1271
01:13:06,415 --> 01:13:08,575
Speaker 4: do this. Ellen, Hey, you've got a question for Bryce

1272
01:13:08,615 --> 01:13:09,935
Speaker 4: as well.

1273
01:13:09,895 --> 01:13:12,775
Speaker 15: A question with three parts go. First of all, I

1274
01:13:12,815 --> 01:13:17,135
Speaker 15: plan to repaint my house with a leastromeric paint. It's

1275
01:13:17,255 --> 01:13:21,295
Speaker 15: monolithic polystyrene, and I've got the calculations for the dimensions

1276
01:13:21,295 --> 01:13:24,695
Speaker 15: of the house. But how much you know, how much

1277
01:13:24,695 --> 01:13:28,095
Speaker 15: paint would I require to paint ninety three point one

1278
01:13:28,175 --> 01:13:29,735
Speaker 15: two meters squared.

1279
01:13:32,455 --> 01:13:38,135
Speaker 4: About seventeen square meters per liter as the coverage? A ah, Now,

1280
01:13:38,255 --> 01:13:40,655
Speaker 4: what's happened is that Bryce has now gone on hold,

1281
01:13:41,135 --> 01:13:46,295
Speaker 4: so which means that I'm answering the questure, which is terrible.

1282
01:13:47,215 --> 01:13:49,815
Speaker 4: Just just stay where you are there, we'll do this

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Speaker 4: Bryce coverage. Let's say yeah, well, inadvertently. To be fair,

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Speaker 4: I don't know why I haven't been able to conference this.

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Speaker 4: Let me see, I've tried. I've tried. Hey, it's coverage, right,

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Speaker 4: so something like x two hundred roughly seventeen square meters

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Speaker 4: elita or is that a bit too much?

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Speaker 7: It's a lot lower than that. It's two hundred.

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Speaker 12: Ye.

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Speaker 7: The first coat is five square meters e liter. Wow, okay,

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Speaker 7: and the second coat is seven and a half, so

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Speaker 7: a ten liter bucket. You know, first coat you'd get

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Speaker 7: fifty squares out of it, second coat another ten lead

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Speaker 7: seventy five squares. But if you're doing a true elastimeric,

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Speaker 7: which in our case is a product called Flexi cover, e, yes,

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Speaker 7: you'll probably only get one to two. Maybe you could

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Speaker 7: stretch it to five, but one to two square meters

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Speaker 7: a liter. Right, let's go on very very you know,

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Speaker 7: because it goes on very very very thick. It's you know,

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Speaker 7: you could stand a spade up in it if you

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01:14:54,815 --> 01:14:56,735
Speaker 7: put it, you know, put it into a bucket. It's

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Speaker 7: that thick.

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Speaker 4: For allen you know, for a let's say, relatively conventional

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01:15:01,735 --> 01:15:05,815
Speaker 4: monolithic clad house, would you go the Elasta America or

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01:15:05,815 --> 01:15:07,215
Speaker 4: would you just the X two hundred.

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Speaker 7: I would just go X two hundred. It's a lot

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Speaker 7: easier to use, and if there's no cracks and no movement,

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Speaker 7: you probably won't need the last of merit. Arlaster merricks

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Speaker 7: are quite different from X two hundred, But I would

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Speaker 7: you know, X two hundred is fantastic. Probably I would

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Speaker 7: go that way, all right.

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Speaker 4: Now. I know has other question because it's here on

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Speaker 4: the notes, was around mixing unused paint with new paint.

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Speaker 4: Would you ever do that? Like if you've got half

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01:15:36,495 --> 01:15:38,975
Speaker 4: a ton of something and then you buy a new

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01:15:39,015 --> 01:15:41,335
Speaker 4: turn of the same paint, would you box them together?

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Speaker 7: Well, I mean, if the exactly the same product, you

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01:15:46,295 --> 01:15:50,935
Speaker 7: probably could if it was in good condition. If it's

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01:15:50,975 --> 01:15:54,215
Speaker 7: a lumpy and horrible stuff like that, I wouldn't even bother.

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Speaker 7: But providing there exactly the same product, you should be

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01:16:00,375 --> 01:16:04,095
Speaker 7: able to mix the two together, because you know the well,

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01:16:04,135 --> 01:16:06,815
Speaker 7: it's it's the same product obviously so compedible.

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Speaker 4: But if you've got one ten that's ten years old

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Speaker 4: and it's been sitting in the garden shed. As much

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01:16:16,295 --> 01:16:18,535
Speaker 4: as I'm keen on recycling, that's not a wise thing

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Speaker 4: to do. And I'll tell you what Sorry to drop

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01:16:22,615 --> 01:16:25,295
Speaker 4: you in this, but the other day someone phoned through.

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01:16:25,895 --> 01:16:29,015
Speaker 4: They were wanting to get a contractor to come and

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01:16:29,055 --> 01:16:32,135
Speaker 4: do some work, and they accepted the fact that they

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01:16:32,175 --> 01:16:36,775
Speaker 4: didn't know a lot about exterior painting and were unsure

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01:16:36,815 --> 01:16:39,855
Speaker 4: about what products they should use and so on. So

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Speaker 4: you know, they were going to engage a contractor, but

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Speaker 4: they wanted to get some advice about the overall job.

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Speaker 4: And so what I said is go along and talk

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01:16:48,655 --> 01:16:50,735
Speaker 4: to someone at the color shop and they might even

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01:16:50,775 --> 01:16:51,815
Speaker 4: be able to come out and do a bit of

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01:16:51,855 --> 01:16:54,815
Speaker 4: consultancy to say, Okay, I've seen the house, this is

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01:16:54,895 --> 01:16:57,695
Speaker 4: the type of primer you need, or this is your

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01:16:57,695 --> 01:16:59,895
Speaker 4: prep this is your primer, this is your top coat,

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01:17:00,175 --> 01:17:04,655
Speaker 4: and then sort of help with creating a specification that

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01:17:04,695 --> 01:17:07,775
Speaker 4: you could give to a contractor. That is something that

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01:17:07,855 --> 01:17:09,575
Speaker 4: the Razine team would be able to do, isn't it.

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Speaker 7: Yeah. I write specifications for people in it all the time. Okay,

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01:17:15,575 --> 01:17:18,215
Speaker 7: it gives them, gives them a black and white document

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01:17:19,295 --> 01:17:23,975
Speaker 7: that explains, you know, the preferation process linked to the

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01:17:24,015 --> 01:17:27,255
Speaker 7: preparation pages and things like that. Yes, Plus it's something

1347
01:17:27,415 --> 01:17:30,615
Speaker 7: you can you can stick in the Concertenophile for the

1348
01:17:30,615 --> 01:17:32,895
Speaker 7: next time you paint, when you came exactly what you

1349
01:17:32,975 --> 01:17:35,975
Speaker 7: put on the house, I suppose good idea to write

1350
01:17:35,975 --> 01:17:37,135
Speaker 7: the colors down on the front.

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01:17:37,335 --> 01:17:40,495
Speaker 4: Yes, well absolutely. The other I guess the other benefit

1352
01:17:40,535 --> 01:17:42,495
Speaker 4: too is let's say you are going to do a

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01:17:42,495 --> 01:17:44,495
Speaker 4: repaint on the house, and that can be a significant

1354
01:17:44,535 --> 01:17:47,655
Speaker 4: investment that you could have that prepared by someone like

1355
01:17:47,695 --> 01:17:51,495
Speaker 4: yourself is essentially independent. And then that document goes out

1356
01:17:51,575 --> 01:17:53,615
Speaker 4: to the people who might be quoting for the work,

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01:17:53,735 --> 01:17:56,255
Speaker 4: so they're all they've all got the same spec sheet

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01:17:56,295 --> 01:17:58,175
Speaker 4: to work from. This is what I want you to do,

1359
01:17:58,615 --> 01:18:01,375
Speaker 4: and then when the quotes come in, they should all

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01:18:01,495 --> 01:18:03,855
Speaker 4: have covered off everything you've asked them to do.

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Speaker 7: Yep. It's easy enough to generally, if I prepare a specification,

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01:18:09,655 --> 01:18:12,495
Speaker 7: I will email it to the owner. Yep. If I

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01:18:12,535 --> 01:18:16,095
Speaker 7: haven't engaged any contractors, then we can you know, we

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01:18:16,135 --> 01:18:17,975
Speaker 7: can nominate some guys and email them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Brilliant, Yeah, brilliant. That's awesome. Hey, Bryce, thank you very

1367
01:18:22,935 --> 01:18:27,735
Speaker 4: much as always for your sage advice. Appreciate it. Take

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01:18:27,735 --> 01:18:30,895
Speaker 4: care your new STALKSZB that's Bryce from Razine And like

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01:18:30,935 --> 01:18:33,535
Speaker 4: I say that, that was a one of those conversations

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01:18:33,575 --> 01:18:34,975
Speaker 4: that kind of stuck in the back of my mind.

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01:18:35,055 --> 01:18:38,135
Speaker 4: So you know, if you are going to get contractors

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Speaker 4: come and do work. Let's say you've committed to I'm

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01:18:40,775 --> 01:18:43,895
Speaker 4: going to repaint the house, and you can go to

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Speaker 4: Razine get them to give you some assistance in terms

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01:18:47,535 --> 01:18:50,495
Speaker 4: of preparing a scope of works. Then you've got a

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01:18:50,535 --> 01:18:53,615
Speaker 4: document that you can send out to the contractors to

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01:18:53,775 --> 01:18:56,535
Speaker 4: ensure that all of them are quoting for the same thing.

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Speaker 4: I think that's that's tremendous assistance, right he seven forty six,

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01:19:01,135 --> 01:19:04,295
Speaker 4: seven forty seven. Rather here at new STALKSB a break

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01:19:04,335 --> 01:19:05,095
Speaker 4: and then we're back.

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Speaker 1: With Kirsty, whether you're fixing fens or wondering how to

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01:19:08,895 --> 01:19:11,535
Speaker 1: fix that hole in the wall. Give Peedo Wolf capicle

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01:19:11,735 --> 01:19:15,935
Speaker 1: on eight the resident builder on youth Dogs B.

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Speaker 4: Quick text as well, just on the similar sort of

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01:19:22,175 --> 01:19:25,295
Speaker 4: thing to the earlier questions about painting and sign So

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Speaker 4: a painted garage floor and in a section near an

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Speaker 4: internal wall external wall rather the paint has flaked and

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Speaker 4: there's this white cotton candy like growth appearing. Can this

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01:19:35,655 --> 01:19:36,855
Speaker 4: be sealed? What is it?

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01:19:37,135 --> 01:19:37,215
Speaker 7: So?

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01:19:37,255 --> 01:19:41,495
Speaker 4: That's effhorescence. That's essentially the salts that are in masonry

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01:19:42,415 --> 01:19:46,455
Speaker 4: being activated and pushed to that inside surface by moisture

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01:19:46,495 --> 01:19:50,975
Speaker 4: on the outside. So yeah, something you can remove it,

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01:19:51,015 --> 01:19:57,055
Speaker 4: typically with like an acid essentially or a specialist masonry cleaner.

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01:19:58,335 --> 01:20:00,535
Speaker 4: Often when you remove it, a little bit might come

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01:20:00,575 --> 01:20:03,575
Speaker 4: back and then a little bit less unless there's evidence

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01:20:03,615 --> 01:20:05,295
Speaker 4: of leaking on the outside, and then you've got to

1398
01:20:05,335 --> 01:20:07,895
Speaker 4: look at sealing it. But you can clean it and

1399
01:20:07,895 --> 01:20:11,255
Speaker 4: then you can paint that area, but there is a

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01:20:11,295 --> 01:20:13,815
Speaker 4: small chance it might come back as well. Right, we

1401
01:20:13,935 --> 01:20:15,815
Speaker 4: can take another short break and then we'll be back.

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01:20:15,655 --> 01:20:19,615
Speaker 1: With Kirsty squeaky door or it's squeakie floor. Get the

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01:20:19,735 --> 01:20:22,615
Speaker 1: right advice from Peter Wolfcare, the resident builder.

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01:20:22,855 --> 01:20:26,455
Speaker 4: On news Talks, AB Yeah, news talks. Remember we've got

1405
01:20:26,455 --> 01:20:28,335
Speaker 4: news top of the hour and then after the news.

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01:20:28,375 --> 01:20:30,455
Speaker 4: Actually we'd be talking to a couple of the people

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01:20:30,495 --> 01:20:34,575
Speaker 4: who are behind to Qui Meyer which is a charitable

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01:20:34,575 --> 01:20:40,495
Speaker 4: trust looking to support service personnel and first responders and

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01:20:40,615 --> 01:20:43,455
Speaker 4: they've got a fantastic action. But you can look it

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01:20:43,535 --> 01:20:47,655
Speaker 4: up now to Quimara dot co dot nz Meyer rather

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01:20:47,815 --> 01:20:51,295
Speaker 4: and we'll have more information about that after the news.

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01:20:51,815 --> 01:20:56,215
Speaker 4: Remember at eight thirty as well. Kirsty, good morning, good.

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Speaker 16: Morning, Hey, thanks for waiting that's all right. This is

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01:21:00,015 --> 01:21:03,215
Speaker 16: probably a really simple and obvious answer to this question.

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01:21:03,295 --> 01:21:08,255
Speaker 16: But my mother has a iron roof, lives in a

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01:21:08,295 --> 01:21:12,015
Speaker 16: coastal area to store house, and it's about eighteen years old.

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01:21:12,055 --> 01:21:15,335
Speaker 16: But the iron is looking good, but we can see

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01:21:15,335 --> 01:21:19,135
Speaker 16: that the nails, but there's rusty nails in the roof,

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01:21:19,375 --> 01:21:21,935
Speaker 16: and just what she has various ideas that he could

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01:21:21,975 --> 01:21:26,935
Speaker 16: do this is it it's best to get a roofing

1421
01:21:27,015 --> 01:21:29,375
Speaker 16: company to come in and do that. And is there

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01:21:29,415 --> 01:21:31,495
Speaker 16: anything specific they should be looking out for.

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01:21:33,055 --> 01:21:36,455
Speaker 4: I mean, look, the advantage of getting a roofing company

1424
01:21:36,495 --> 01:21:40,415
Speaker 4: or a roofing professional and is that you know they're

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01:21:40,455 --> 01:21:43,415
Speaker 4: familiar with it. They're familiar working at heights, which is important,

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01:21:44,335 --> 01:21:47,335
Speaker 4: and they would simply come along, hopefully they've got the

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01:21:47,375 --> 01:21:50,375
Speaker 4: right gear, pull those nails out as directly as you

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01:21:50,375 --> 01:21:52,455
Speaker 4: possibly can so you don't end up making a bigger

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01:21:52,495 --> 01:21:56,455
Speaker 4: hole through the roofing sheet and then replacing those nails

1430
01:21:56,535 --> 01:22:01,335
Speaker 4: with screws which will hold better and tend to and

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01:22:01,415 --> 01:22:04,655
Speaker 4: have a little near prem washer underneath them. So and

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01:22:04,735 --> 01:22:06,935
Speaker 4: if you needed to, you could all aways asked them

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01:22:06,975 --> 01:22:09,455
Speaker 4: to do a little bit of really modest rust treatment

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01:22:09,535 --> 01:22:13,535
Speaker 4: if they see some corrosion around the penetration. But pulling

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01:22:13,575 --> 01:22:16,495
Speaker 4: the nail out replacing with a screw is quite a

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01:22:16,535 --> 01:22:18,495
Speaker 4: good preventative maintenance thing to do.

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Speaker 16: I can that the main So the main thing is

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01:22:21,695 --> 01:22:22,935
Speaker 16: that they pull them out directly.

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01:22:23,495 --> 01:22:26,735
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the key. And if you're doing yourself, that's

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01:22:26,775 --> 01:22:28,055
Speaker 4: that's one of the real challenges.

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01:22:28,375 --> 01:22:31,935
Speaker 1: Good luck with that helping you get those DIY projects

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01:22:31,975 --> 01:22:35,615
Speaker 1: done right. The resident builder with Peta Wolfgant call oh

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01:22:35,655 --> 01:22:38,015
Speaker 1: eight eight youth Talk ZB.

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01:22:38,335 --> 01:22:40,575
Speaker 4: Yeah, News TALKSZB Welcome back to the show. Oh eight

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01:22:40,695 --> 01:22:44,255
Speaker 4: hundred eighty ten eighty is that number to call? It's

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01:22:44,295 --> 01:22:48,535
Speaker 4: been a real variety today, sheds, townhouses, boundaries, property law,

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01:22:48,695 --> 01:22:53,215
Speaker 4: garden sheds again, range hoods, downpipes. Cheeky Bugger is the

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01:22:53,535 --> 01:22:56,975
Speaker 4: day award? Maybe that could be an award going forward.

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01:22:57,495 --> 01:23:02,015
Speaker 4: Cheeky Bugger of the Day was not Leana herself, but

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01:23:02,055 --> 01:23:05,735
Speaker 4: the story that she had where she has a shop

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01:23:06,895 --> 01:23:09,775
Speaker 4: which is adjacent to a number of other shops and

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01:23:10,095 --> 01:23:13,335
Speaker 4: the contractors that came to maybe do some roofing and

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01:23:13,335 --> 01:23:17,255
Speaker 4: put some new spouting on the adjacent shops then took

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01:23:17,415 --> 01:23:20,255
Speaker 4: the down pipe from the new spouting that they'd installed

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01:23:20,775 --> 01:23:24,295
Speaker 4: and simply cut a tea into her downpipe and directed

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01:23:24,375 --> 01:23:29,375
Speaker 4: all of their water into her downpipe. That would be

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01:23:29,415 --> 01:23:34,015
Speaker 4: the inaugural Cheeky Bugger of the Day or the Week award.

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01:23:34,055 --> 01:23:38,935
Speaker 4: That could actually be a thing until someone objects about

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01:23:38,975 --> 01:23:43,295
Speaker 4: the terminology. But either way, that's not acceptable to be blunt.

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01:23:43,575 --> 01:23:45,735
Speaker 4: But we have talked a lot about storm water and

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01:23:45,775 --> 01:23:48,455
Speaker 4: so on. So if you've got a question that you'd

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01:23:48,535 --> 01:23:51,135
Speaker 4: like answered, oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is

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01:23:51,175 --> 01:23:53,175
Speaker 4: that number to call. My thanks to Bryce again from

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01:23:53,295 --> 01:23:56,935
Speaker 4: Razine for being part of the show. And before we

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01:23:57,015 --> 01:23:59,775
Speaker 4: go and chat with Rude at eight point thirty, I'm

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Speaker 4: going to be talking with Megan and Rebecca who are

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01:24:03,335 --> 01:24:09,615
Speaker 4: part of an organization called Tikiwi Maya so te Kewekiwi

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01:24:09,855 --> 01:24:14,095
Speaker 4: and then Maia. You can find them online. They're having

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01:24:14,135 --> 01:24:16,295
Speaker 4: an auction. The reason that I got to hear about

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01:24:16,295 --> 01:24:19,535
Speaker 4: this is someone rang me and said, look, there's an

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Speaker 4: auction coming up and there is a minor dwelling that's

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01:24:22,655 --> 01:24:25,935
Speaker 4: going to be auctioned off. Would you be interested in

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01:24:25,975 --> 01:24:28,375
Speaker 4: talking about that? And since we talk about minor dwellings

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01:24:28,415 --> 01:24:31,495
Speaker 4: quite a bit, I thought, yeah for sure, and then

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01:24:31,535 --> 01:24:33,695
Speaker 4: I realized what the charity is and thought, well, we'll

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01:24:33,775 --> 01:24:35,695
Speaker 4: have a bit of a chat with them. This is

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01:24:35,735 --> 01:24:38,055
Speaker 4: Garala bit so you can find all of this information

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01:24:38,175 --> 01:24:40,175
Speaker 4: find their website. Click on the link you can go

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01:24:40,215 --> 01:24:42,615
Speaker 4: through to the auction. There's actually quite a number of

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01:24:42,655 --> 01:24:45,895
Speaker 4: other really interesting things there as well. So but this

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01:24:45,935 --> 01:24:51,575
Speaker 4: little holly a charming one bedroom cottage is up for auction.

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01:24:51,815 --> 01:24:54,535
Speaker 4: It looks pretty cool. So we've talked to Rebecca and

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01:24:54,575 --> 01:24:57,455
Speaker 4: Meghan about that a little bit later on this morning

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01:24:57,535 --> 01:24:59,935
Speaker 4: before we go to If you've got a question, oh,

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01:24:59,975 --> 01:25:02,575
Speaker 4: eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty is that number

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01:25:02,615 --> 01:25:06,655
Speaker 4: to call? Also, just to be clear, because we're I

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01:25:06,695 --> 01:25:09,335
Speaker 4: was describing situation, and I actually I had a look

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01:25:09,335 --> 01:25:12,575
Speaker 4: at one of these a little while ago, where I'd

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01:25:12,615 --> 01:25:14,055
Speaker 4: been asked to go and look at a property that

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01:25:14,135 --> 01:25:17,415
Speaker 4: had persistent issues with leaking into a basement, which is

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01:25:17,415 --> 01:25:21,655
Speaker 4: not uncommon. As it happened adjacent where the leak was

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01:25:21,735 --> 01:25:25,335
Speaker 4: evident inside the building, there was a downpipe. The downpipe

1493
01:25:25,375 --> 01:25:28,735
Speaker 4: was connected to stormwater that went into the ground, but

1494
01:25:29,695 --> 01:25:32,375
Speaker 4: judging by the age of the building, I wasn't really

1495
01:25:32,575 --> 01:25:36,015
Speaker 4: convinced that the storm water was going somewhere, and so

1496
01:25:36,175 --> 01:25:38,935
Speaker 4: suggested to the homeowner that they get in someone like

1497
01:25:39,015 --> 01:25:41,655
Speaker 4: drain works who come and do a video survey, put

1498
01:25:41,695 --> 01:25:44,495
Speaker 4: the camera down there, follow it along. Find that there's

1499
01:25:44,575 --> 01:25:47,375
Speaker 4: you know, clay tiles, there's a little bit of root

1500
01:25:47,455 --> 01:25:50,495
Speaker 4: and gress, there's a few broken junctions, that sort of thing.

1501
01:25:50,735 --> 01:25:53,335
Speaker 4: But eventually, after about ten meters or so going out

1502
01:25:53,375 --> 01:25:57,655
Speaker 4: into the garden, it just stopped. And what I suspect is,

1503
01:25:57,695 --> 01:25:59,815
Speaker 4: given the age of the house, there used to be

1504
01:25:59,855 --> 01:26:02,735
Speaker 4: a soakage pit there, which it's a hole in the

1505
01:26:02,735 --> 01:26:05,295
Speaker 4: ground with some drainage material into it. That's what the

1506
01:26:05,335 --> 01:26:09,175
Speaker 4: stormwater was direct it into. But as happens with these things,

1507
01:26:09,855 --> 01:26:13,055
Speaker 4: they end up being just completely full of sediment, in

1508
01:26:13,095 --> 01:26:17,495
Speaker 4: which case they stop accepting any drainage. Right, So the

1509
01:26:18,135 --> 01:26:20,935
Speaker 4: stormwater from this would have gone down ten to twelve

1510
01:26:20,935 --> 01:26:23,855
Speaker 4: meters of pipe and then simply hit the mud basically,

1511
01:26:24,575 --> 01:26:27,295
Speaker 4: So that's not working. But that you know, that's not

1512
01:26:27,455 --> 01:26:31,295
Speaker 4: the only way people manage stormwater. So most stormwater goes

1513
01:26:31,375 --> 01:26:35,055
Speaker 4: to council lines to infrastructure that's out at the road.

1514
01:26:35,455 --> 01:26:37,935
Speaker 4: Might be a curb discharge, but councils are less and

1515
01:26:38,055 --> 01:26:42,615
Speaker 4: less accepting of those anymore. It might be a curb discharge,

1516
01:26:42,615 --> 01:26:44,815
Speaker 4: but via a water tank. So if you do a

1517
01:26:44,935 --> 01:26:48,415
Speaker 4: detention tank on the property which takes the volume of

1518
01:26:48,455 --> 01:26:52,055
Speaker 4: water from a downpour, holds it and then releases it

1519
01:26:52,135 --> 01:26:56,535
Speaker 4: slowly over time, that might go to the curb discharge.

1520
01:26:56,535 --> 01:26:59,375
Speaker 4: And if you drive along in an urban area, you know,

1521
01:26:59,415 --> 01:27:01,495
Speaker 4: and the rain might have stopped two or three hours ago,

1522
01:27:01,535 --> 01:27:04,855
Speaker 4: but you'll still see water exiting out into the curb.

1523
01:27:05,175 --> 01:27:08,495
Speaker 4: That's often from a rainwater tank, like a decent sized

1524
01:27:08,535 --> 01:27:11,655
Speaker 4: bailey one or something like that that will hold water

1525
01:27:11,855 --> 01:27:16,815
Speaker 4: and then discharge slowly through a smaller outlet into the

1526
01:27:16,855 --> 01:27:19,415
Speaker 4: stormwater line. And of course, if fact gets inundated, there's

1527
01:27:19,415 --> 01:27:21,495
Speaker 4: an overflow and it goes directly to the line. So

1528
01:27:21,935 --> 01:27:26,455
Speaker 4: multiple ways of controlling stormwater, all of which is important

1529
01:27:26,455 --> 01:27:30,935
Speaker 4: because as either homeowners or property owners, it's our responsibility

1530
01:27:30,975 --> 01:27:34,495
Speaker 4: to control the storm water that discharges from our property.

1531
01:27:35,575 --> 01:27:39,695
Speaker 4: That's increasingly relevant when we're now talking about, you know,

1532
01:27:39,775 --> 01:27:42,855
Speaker 4: garden sheds and the like from the end of this year,

1533
01:27:42,975 --> 01:27:45,615
Speaker 4: being able to build. If it's ten square meters or less,

1534
01:27:45,975 --> 01:27:49,055
Speaker 4: you can put it right on the boundary or adjacent

1535
01:27:49,095 --> 01:27:52,095
Speaker 4: to the boundary, which means if it's got a sloping

1536
01:27:52,175 --> 01:27:54,615
Speaker 4: roof and the water's heading to your neighbor and you

1537
01:27:54,655 --> 01:27:57,735
Speaker 4: don't have any spouting. It's going on too the neighbors,

1538
01:27:57,735 --> 01:28:01,215
Speaker 4: isn't it. It should have spouting, should be connected to

1539
01:28:01,215 --> 01:28:04,015
Speaker 4: stormwater or have some sort of management of it. But

1540
01:28:04,695 --> 01:28:07,335
Speaker 4: let's be realistic. How many do So if you go

1541
01:28:07,415 --> 01:28:12,015
Speaker 4: down you buy a eight square meter garden shed and

1542
01:28:13,015 --> 01:28:15,695
Speaker 4: assemble it, what are you doing with the storm water? Oh,

1543
01:28:15,735 --> 01:28:18,055
Speaker 4: eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call

1544
01:28:18,095 --> 01:28:24,255
Speaker 4: mark good morning to you, very well, thank you, good,

1545
01:28:24,295 --> 01:28:24,735
Speaker 4: good good.

1546
01:28:25,415 --> 01:28:26,495
Speaker 7: And I just got a question.

1547
01:28:27,095 --> 01:28:29,895
Speaker 8: We've got to we've raised our house up to one

1548
01:28:29,935 --> 01:28:36,495
Speaker 8: point five meters, all after Gabriel, and just obviously decks

1549
01:28:36,615 --> 01:28:38,015
Speaker 8: need balustrade.

1550
01:28:38,095 --> 01:28:40,455
Speaker 6: They do the steps?

1551
01:28:40,735 --> 01:28:43,015
Speaker 8: Can they just have a handrail or do they need

1552
01:28:43,095 --> 01:28:45,615
Speaker 8: to be bellustrated as well.

1553
01:28:46,175 --> 01:28:49,695
Speaker 4: Depending on the height of the stairs. So the whole

1554
01:28:49,855 --> 01:28:53,455
Speaker 4: rule around prevention from falling right, which is a section

1555
01:28:53,495 --> 01:28:56,895
Speaker 4: of the Building Code in the Building Act, is to

1556
01:28:56,935 --> 01:29:00,615
Speaker 4: prevent a fall from a height of a meter or more. So,

1557
01:29:00,815 --> 01:29:03,535
Speaker 4: if for example, your deck is at one point three

1558
01:29:03,575 --> 01:29:06,895
Speaker 4: meters and your stairs go to one point three at

1559
01:29:06,895 --> 01:29:09,695
Speaker 4: a certain point you'll get to a meter and you'll

1560
01:29:09,735 --> 01:29:12,495
Speaker 4: be able to fall off the stairs. So that section

1561
01:29:12,575 --> 01:29:15,895
Speaker 4: of the stairs would require a balustrade to prevent falling,

1562
01:29:16,535 --> 01:29:19,775
Speaker 4: the balance of it would just require a handrail, and

1563
01:29:19,815 --> 01:29:22,375
Speaker 4: the handrails required once you have more than two and

1564
01:29:22,375 --> 01:29:23,175
Speaker 4: a half rises.

1565
01:29:24,335 --> 01:29:26,055
Speaker 8: Yeah, okay, brilliant, thank you.

1566
01:29:26,215 --> 01:29:28,895
Speaker 4: Yeah, so that's that's kind of where the guidelines are.

1567
01:29:29,975 --> 01:29:32,215
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, as well, balustrade the whole thing.

1568
01:29:32,575 --> 01:29:34,375
Speaker 4: Yeah, pretty much. It's going to look a bit weird

1569
01:29:34,415 --> 01:29:38,375
Speaker 4: to have balustrades on just one part of your stairs. Yeah, absolutely, Yeah,

1570
01:29:38,415 --> 01:29:41,495
Speaker 4: good luck with that, Matt, thanks mate, all best. She

1571
01:29:41,495 --> 01:29:43,415
Speaker 4: would have been interesting to talk more about, you know,

1572
01:29:43,455 --> 01:29:46,335
Speaker 4: the practicalities of raising your house, because that if you're

1573
01:29:46,335 --> 01:29:50,015
Speaker 4: talking about storm water and stormwater management and resilience and

1574
01:29:50,015 --> 01:29:51,855
Speaker 4: so on. I reckon that's the sort of thing that

1575
01:29:51,895 --> 01:29:53,215
Speaker 4: more and more people are going to have to do.

1576
01:29:53,935 --> 01:29:56,895
Speaker 4: Interesting text from Lisa. What if your property is below

1577
01:29:56,975 --> 01:30:01,095
Speaker 4: the street for storm water? Look, in many cases, you

1578
01:30:01,175 --> 01:30:06,055
Speaker 4: know when subdivisions are developed, even older ones, we know

1579
01:30:06,495 --> 01:30:09,215
Speaker 4: that typically water likes to go downhill. So what you

1580
01:30:09,295 --> 01:30:13,295
Speaker 4: might find is that the council infrastructure is located at

1581
01:30:13,335 --> 01:30:16,095
Speaker 4: the lower part of the property. So you might have

1582
01:30:16,335 --> 01:30:19,175
Speaker 4: a row of houses alongside a road. The road is

1583
01:30:19,255 --> 01:30:23,815
Speaker 4: higher and when the development takes place, the council infrastructure

1584
01:30:24,215 --> 01:30:26,415
Speaker 4: or the storm order will be installed at the lower

1585
01:30:26,415 --> 01:30:28,455
Speaker 4: part so that there will be like a public line

1586
01:30:28,535 --> 01:30:31,695
Speaker 4: running across the backyard of multiple properties so that you

1587
01:30:31,735 --> 01:30:34,615
Speaker 4: can plug your stormwater into it. If that's not the case,

1588
01:30:35,735 --> 01:30:41,895
Speaker 4: then typically you need to discharge your stormwater into a chamber,

1589
01:30:42,255 --> 01:30:45,055
Speaker 4: and then the chamber needs a pump which pumps it

1590
01:30:45,095 --> 01:30:48,615
Speaker 4: out to a point where it gets gravity fed into

1591
01:30:48,655 --> 01:30:51,775
Speaker 4: the storm water line. As you can imagine, with more

1592
01:30:51,775 --> 01:30:55,615
Speaker 4: and more flooding and so on, council and have raised

1593
01:30:55,895 --> 01:30:59,735
Speaker 4: the requirements for that. So I remember doing it a

1594
01:30:59,775 --> 01:31:02,775
Speaker 4: couple of years ago. It was a smallest chamber with

1595
01:31:02,895 --> 01:31:05,535
Speaker 4: a pump in it and an alarm. If you did

1596
01:31:05,535 --> 01:31:07,695
Speaker 4: it today, it would probably need to be a bigger chamber.

1597
01:31:07,815 --> 01:31:10,575
Speaker 4: It probably has to have two pumps in it so

1598
01:31:10,615 --> 01:31:13,295
Speaker 4: that in the event that there's failure, the other one

1599
01:31:13,335 --> 01:31:16,815
Speaker 4: can take over and the alarm that sounds if the

1600
01:31:16,855 --> 01:31:19,855
Speaker 4: pump is not working for some reason. So that's interesting.

1601
01:31:20,135 --> 01:31:23,855
Speaker 4: Oh eight, one hundred and eighty ten eighty the number Keith, greetings.

1602
01:31:24,295 --> 01:31:25,175
Speaker 17: KDa, how are you?

1603
01:31:25,255 --> 01:31:25,415
Speaker 13: Yeah?

1604
01:31:25,535 --> 01:31:28,375
Speaker 4: Very well, thinks.

1605
01:31:27,655 --> 01:31:28,335
Speaker 6: I've got a question.

1606
01:31:28,375 --> 01:31:31,615
Speaker 17: I've got a house that's ninety five years old, and

1607
01:31:31,775 --> 01:31:34,815
Speaker 17: I say mink condition. And since we've painted all the outside,

1608
01:31:34,895 --> 01:31:37,975
Speaker 17: the roof, done, the jerb and everything else in the house,

1609
01:31:38,655 --> 01:31:41,575
Speaker 17: how do I do the spraying for bora when it's

1610
01:31:41,655 --> 01:31:44,855
Speaker 17: got insulation underneath the floor?

1611
01:31:46,695 --> 01:31:49,375
Speaker 4: Yeah, because you know the borer. If you spray a product,

1612
01:31:49,415 --> 01:31:51,655
Speaker 4: you're only going to get a limited amount of penetration

1613
01:31:51,855 --> 01:31:53,095
Speaker 4: where that insulation is.

1614
01:31:53,095 --> 01:31:54,975
Speaker 7: Isn't correct.

1615
01:31:56,135 --> 01:31:59,655
Speaker 17: I don't see a lot of borer evidence underneath their house.

1616
01:31:59,695 --> 01:32:03,895
Speaker 17: But I want to be proactors, not reactive. So that's why.

1617
01:32:04,375 --> 01:32:07,215
Speaker 17: How do I need to take all this insallation ops

1618
01:32:07,215 --> 01:32:10,535
Speaker 17: to spray underneath or so I spray the insulation that

1619
01:32:10,695 --> 01:32:13,415
Speaker 17: will kill the bor in a way?

1620
01:32:14,175 --> 01:32:16,935
Speaker 4: I wonder if as a first approach, you did some

1621
01:32:16,975 --> 01:32:20,895
Speaker 4: sort of treatment, leaving the insulation in place, seeing whether

1622
01:32:21,055 --> 01:32:23,215
Speaker 4: in the next season. And we're coming up to BORI

1623
01:32:23,335 --> 01:32:27,975
Speaker 4: season fairly soon, about a month's time or so, because

1624
01:32:27,975 --> 01:32:30,695
Speaker 4: that's the time to treat it, so it's a perfect timing, right,

1625
01:32:30,855 --> 01:32:33,655
Speaker 4: so you have a look and maybe I'll ask Rude

1626
01:32:33,655 --> 01:32:36,815
Speaker 4: about this as well. So ideally you'd want to treat

1627
01:32:38,055 --> 01:32:40,975
Speaker 4: soon and then have a look next to you to

1628
01:32:40,975 --> 01:32:43,255
Speaker 4: see whether there's any evidence and if you need to

1629
01:32:43,295 --> 01:32:46,775
Speaker 4: do more treatment, which might involve pulling out that insulation.

1630
01:32:48,135 --> 01:32:51,575
Speaker 17: So if I spray the insulation, let's say we really

1631
01:32:52,215 --> 01:32:54,935
Speaker 17: as a very narrow underneath the house, so I ever

1632
01:32:55,015 --> 01:32:57,215
Speaker 17: get something nice and skinny to get underneath the house,

1633
01:32:59,095 --> 01:33:02,375
Speaker 17: how well spray the insulation wouldn't rock the wood anyway,

1634
01:33:02,455 --> 01:33:05,575
Speaker 17: but it should suffocate the boro.

1635
01:33:05,655 --> 01:33:08,135
Speaker 4: If I'm career, Yeah, and I think it's all about timing.

1636
01:33:08,615 --> 01:33:10,975
Speaker 4: And I'll stay if you can stay listening for a bit,

1637
01:33:11,015 --> 01:33:13,695
Speaker 4: and I'll ask Rood about timing for bora treatment given

1638
01:33:13,735 --> 01:33:16,855
Speaker 4: that they're on the wing sometime in the next couple

1639
01:33:16,895 --> 01:33:17,375
Speaker 4: of months.

1640
01:33:18,775 --> 01:33:22,175
Speaker 17: Yeah, because I've done everything possible, Like we've sprayed inside

1641
01:33:22,175 --> 01:33:24,415
Speaker 17: the house, because you saw a little bit of war

1642
01:33:24,495 --> 01:33:28,295
Speaker 17: in the wardrobes. Underneath the house, we've seen a little

1643
01:33:28,335 --> 01:33:31,815
Speaker 17: bit of evidence. But underneath the insulation, I haven't pulled

1644
01:33:31,815 --> 01:33:35,055
Speaker 17: off all the insulation, and that would be a nightmare

1645
01:33:35,095 --> 01:33:35,335
Speaker 17: of it.

1646
01:33:35,335 --> 01:33:37,215
Speaker 4: It would be a big job. And then putting it

1647
01:33:37,255 --> 01:33:39,295
Speaker 4: back in properly and all the rest of it gets

1648
01:33:39,375 --> 01:33:43,015
Speaker 4: really really challenging. If you can stay listening, and I'll

1649
01:33:43,055 --> 01:33:45,375
Speaker 4: ask that question over it when we get to rid

1650
01:33:45,495 --> 01:33:46,455
Speaker 4: shortly back in a.

1651
01:33:46,455 --> 01:33:50,535
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1674
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1675
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1676
01:35:13,175 --> 01:35:16,495
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1677
01:35:16,495 --> 01:35:18,055
Speaker 4: that's fair enough. But then I had a look at

1678
01:35:18,135 --> 01:35:23,095
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1679
01:35:23,135 --> 01:35:26,135
Speaker 4: so this morning with me is Meghan and Rebecca, who

1680
01:35:26,215 --> 01:35:29,415
Speaker 4: are founders of this charity. Very good morning, and thanks

1681
01:35:29,455 --> 01:35:30,535
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1682
01:35:31,695 --> 01:35:33,415
Speaker 18: Hey you're winning, Pete. Thank you for having us.

1683
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Speaker 4: It's a pleasure. Hey, look, this is something that maybe

1684
01:35:36,655 --> 01:35:39,975
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1685
01:35:39,975 --> 01:35:42,055
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1686
01:35:42,135 --> 01:35:45,535
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1687
01:35:46,935 --> 01:35:48,335
Speaker 18: Yeah, hi, Pete, it's Rebecca here.

1688
01:35:49,895 --> 01:35:50,095
Speaker 7: Hi.

1689
01:35:50,295 --> 01:35:52,295
Speaker 19: So kiu We Maya is a charity set up for

1690
01:35:52,335 --> 01:35:56,455
Speaker 19: our first responders defense and their families were our Meghan

1691
01:35:56,495 --> 01:35:59,175
Speaker 19: and I are raw New Zillain maybe and we've been

1692
01:35:59,215 --> 01:36:03,215
Speaker 19: serving for over gosh over ten years now, both of us,

1693
01:36:03,695 --> 01:36:05,855
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1694
01:36:05,935 --> 01:36:08,735
Speaker 19: for how for wellbeing, for our people and for our

1695
01:36:08,735 --> 01:36:13,295
Speaker 19: first responders. So we created this charity and programs where

1696
01:36:13,335 --> 01:36:15,175
Speaker 19: we look after our people and we take them away.

1697
01:36:16,295 --> 01:36:19,055
Speaker 4: It sounds fantastic and I really encourage people to check

1698
01:36:19,055 --> 01:36:24,775
Speaker 4: it out online. So it's Quimya dot co dot m Z. Obviously,

1699
01:36:24,935 --> 01:36:29,735
Speaker 4: charities need money, and so you've put together a dinner

1700
01:36:29,735 --> 01:36:32,615
Speaker 4: which is on Wednesday night. Looks amazing out at the

1701
01:36:32,655 --> 01:36:36,975
Speaker 4: Mote Aviation Hall. But also running this auction, so it's

1702
01:36:37,175 --> 01:36:39,615
Speaker 4: via galibit. So you can go to the website then

1703
01:36:39,775 --> 01:36:42,135
Speaker 4: click on the auction and one of the things you've

1704
01:36:42,135 --> 01:36:46,655
Speaker 4: got there is this well basically little tiny house which

1705
01:36:46,735 --> 01:36:47,735
Speaker 4: is up for grabs.

1706
01:36:49,615 --> 01:36:53,135
Speaker 18: Yes, we have Holly, which is a little transportable cottage

1707
01:36:53,255 --> 01:36:56,135
Speaker 18: who has been donated to us by Craig Walker Building

1708
01:36:56,135 --> 01:36:59,135
Speaker 18: Removal to are out in QMU. They're really big supporters

1709
01:36:59,215 --> 01:37:02,415
Speaker 18: of Defense Force and also of what we are doing. Yeah,

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01:37:02,415 --> 01:37:04,695
Speaker 18: and they thought that Holly might be something fun and

1711
01:37:04,855 --> 01:37:06,095
Speaker 18: a bit different for an option.

1712
01:37:07,015 --> 01:37:10,375
Speaker 4: I mean it's it's a lot for what might be. Well,

1713
01:37:10,455 --> 01:37:12,335
Speaker 4: let's hope that it goes for a hell of a

1714
01:37:12,335 --> 01:37:14,695
Speaker 4: lot of money. But we're talking a bedroom, a bathroom,

1715
01:37:14,735 --> 01:37:17,295
Speaker 4: an open planned living area, a little compact kitchen in there.

1716
01:37:18,135 --> 01:37:23,495
Speaker 4: It's it's obviously transportable, it's ready to go. And I

1717
01:37:23,535 --> 01:37:25,615
Speaker 4: have to say I looked at that and then I

1718
01:37:25,735 --> 01:37:27,895
Speaker 4: kind of clicked on the all items and then I

1719
01:37:27,935 --> 01:37:31,175
Speaker 4: saw a whole bunch of other items, including you know,

1720
01:37:31,335 --> 01:37:33,855
Speaker 4: a electric truck. That's pretty impressive.

1721
01:37:35,015 --> 01:37:37,935
Speaker 18: Yeah, Keith Andrews have given us a Fuso eken to

1722
01:37:38,455 --> 01:37:41,655
Speaker 18: electric truck in that one at a dollar reserves. The

1723
01:37:41,975 --> 01:37:45,695
Speaker 18: tiny home in the truck can actually be bit on nationwide. Yes,

1724
01:37:45,735 --> 01:37:47,575
Speaker 18: but anyone around the country camp be on that and

1725
01:37:47,615 --> 01:37:50,575
Speaker 18: that closed at ten pm on Wednesday night.

1726
01:37:50,815 --> 01:37:55,175
Speaker 4: And Wednesday night is the night of the dinner yest. Yeah, fantastic.

1727
01:37:55,495 --> 01:37:59,575
Speaker 4: So again, people, there's all sorts of auction items, and

1728
01:38:00,335 --> 01:38:02,695
Speaker 4: given your contacts within the defense and the police and

1729
01:38:02,735 --> 01:38:05,575
Speaker 4: so on, there's some pretty cool stuff like this maritime

1730
01:38:05,655 --> 01:38:09,135
Speaker 4: patrol experience on the dead so you can go out

1731
01:38:09,175 --> 01:38:12,375
Speaker 4: on that for a five hundred dollar bid. You can

1732
01:38:12,415 --> 01:38:15,215
Speaker 4: practice driving a warship. That sounds pretty cool.

1733
01:38:16,295 --> 01:38:16,495
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1734
01:38:16,535 --> 01:38:19,215
Speaker 18: We've got a couple of simulator experiences and they're so one

1735
01:38:19,455 --> 01:38:22,695
Speaker 18: from the Navy. We've got a couple of helicopter simulators

1736
01:38:22,695 --> 01:38:24,975
Speaker 18: so the seat site which is the Naval helicopter but

1737
01:38:25,095 --> 01:38:29,175
Speaker 18: also the Westpac Rescue Helicopter base. There's a simulator there,

1738
01:38:29,335 --> 01:38:32,135
Speaker 18: there's an experience for that. If you want to be

1739
01:38:32,175 --> 01:38:34,775
Speaker 18: a grounde for a day in Hamilton at Centam Park

1740
01:38:34,935 --> 01:38:38,175
Speaker 18: or the main Rugby stadium, you can join kJ there

1741
01:38:38,855 --> 01:38:41,175
Speaker 18: and choose whatever game or event you want to go

1742
01:38:41,215 --> 01:38:44,415
Speaker 18: to and be a grundy with the team for a day. Yeah,

1743
01:38:44,415 --> 01:38:47,415
Speaker 18: we've got a lot of a wide variety of auction

1744
01:38:47,535 --> 01:38:49,575
Speaker 18: items up for grabs, but then we've got some live

1745
01:38:49,695 --> 01:38:54,495
Speaker 18: on the night there's an exclusive dining experience with Michael

1746
01:38:54,575 --> 01:38:57,855
Speaker 18: Dirth will be shipping and Joseph Parker will be hosting.

1747
01:38:59,055 --> 01:39:01,895
Speaker 18: You can ride in the Police Eagle helicopter and there's

1748
01:39:01,935 --> 01:39:04,975
Speaker 18: a really cool hunting experience actually as well, so.

1749
01:39:05,055 --> 01:39:09,415
Speaker 4: Really wide range and this allows the trust to and

1750
01:39:09,495 --> 01:39:11,935
Speaker 4: the charity to do the work that you do. So again,

1751
01:39:12,375 --> 01:39:14,615
Speaker 4: just you know what's the sort of classic example of

1752
01:39:14,655 --> 01:39:16,415
Speaker 4: the work that you're involved in, and again this is

1753
01:39:16,455 --> 01:39:20,815
Speaker 4: about supporting defense personnel and first responders who you know

1754
01:39:20,815 --> 01:39:22,335
Speaker 4: are given that you see a whole lot of stuff

1755
01:39:22,335 --> 01:39:24,775
Speaker 4: that most of us probably wouldn't see in our lives,

1756
01:39:25,015 --> 01:39:29,135
Speaker 4: and that takes a toll. What's the nature of the

1757
01:39:29,175 --> 01:39:30,775
Speaker 4: support that you're able to offer.

1758
01:39:32,415 --> 01:39:34,775
Speaker 19: Yeah, So we created a program here in New Zealand

1759
01:39:34,815 --> 01:39:38,295
Speaker 19: where we take away twelve first responders and defense personnel

1760
01:39:38,335 --> 01:39:40,935
Speaker 19: away for six days and we bring in all the

1761
01:39:40,935 --> 01:39:42,855
Speaker 19: specialists and wrap around them. So we bring in the

1762
01:39:42,895 --> 01:39:47,135
Speaker 19: clinical psychologists, the rural art practitioners, personal train and nutritionists,

1763
01:39:47,135 --> 01:39:50,655
Speaker 19: sleep specialist and also trauma based yoga. And what we're

1764
01:39:50,695 --> 01:39:55,855
Speaker 19: doing is helping them learn about themselves, start going through

1765
01:39:55,895 --> 01:39:59,055
Speaker 19: the process of what they've gone through, but also just

1766
01:39:59,135 --> 01:40:01,215
Speaker 19: helping them on their next part of their journey, and

1767
01:40:01,215 --> 01:40:03,655
Speaker 19: that's to live their booth lives that they can and

1768
01:40:03,815 --> 01:40:07,255
Speaker 19: heal together rather than it a silo. It's really important

1769
01:40:08,255 --> 01:40:11,335
Speaker 19: so that people realize that, you know, everyone in this

1770
01:40:11,735 --> 01:40:14,535
Speaker 19: field are going through the same thing. And I think

1771
01:40:14,575 --> 01:40:17,255
Speaker 19: what people don't understand is that our first responders and

1772
01:40:17,295 --> 01:40:20,775
Speaker 19: defense they see more trauma and a week than what

1773
01:40:21,095 --> 01:40:23,415
Speaker 19: an average person would see in their lifetime.

1774
01:40:23,615 --> 01:40:26,775
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you can be as tough as you like,

1775
01:40:26,815 --> 01:40:28,175
Speaker 4: but it's going to take a toll, isn't it.

1776
01:40:29,335 --> 01:40:29,495
Speaker 3: Oh.

1777
01:40:29,575 --> 01:40:31,895
Speaker 19: Absolutely, it'll catch up at some point. And I think

1778
01:40:31,935 --> 01:40:34,375
Speaker 19: the thing is what we are really really keen on

1779
01:40:34,495 --> 01:40:37,455
Speaker 19: is the preventative work. Sure our people do not need

1780
01:40:37,495 --> 01:40:39,975
Speaker 19: to get PTSD if we wrap around them and give

1781
01:40:39,975 --> 01:40:43,135
Speaker 19: them the tools and the knowledge and everything so that

1782
01:40:43,175 --> 01:40:45,775
Speaker 19: they can you know, learn and develop and take time

1783
01:40:45,815 --> 01:40:46,895
Speaker 19: out when they need to.

1784
01:40:46,695 --> 01:40:48,775
Speaker 16: To, as I said, live their best lives.

1785
01:40:48,855 --> 01:40:49,215
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1786
01:40:49,255 --> 01:40:51,855
Speaker 4: Absolutely, Hey, look check it out online. Have a look.

1787
01:40:51,935 --> 01:40:54,015
Speaker 4: So the best way to find your way to the

1788
01:40:54,055 --> 01:40:56,175
Speaker 4: auction if you want to bid on some of these items,

1789
01:40:56,215 --> 01:40:58,535
Speaker 4: I think is to go to your website, which is

1790
01:40:58,735 --> 01:41:04,095
Speaker 4: Qiwi Meyer. That's Kiwi Maia dot co dot Nz. Click

1791
01:41:04,135 --> 01:41:06,495
Speaker 4: on the link through to the auction. There's the min

1792
01:41:06,535 --> 01:41:09,535
Speaker 4: are dwelling, there's all of these other really fantastic things,

1793
01:41:09,855 --> 01:41:12,735
Speaker 4: and there's the dinner. I wish you every success and

1794
01:41:13,375 --> 01:41:14,295
Speaker 4: thanks for reaching out.

1795
01:41:15,415 --> 01:41:16,775
Speaker 18: Thank you so much for having us peak.

1796
01:41:16,975 --> 01:41:19,255
Speaker 4: It's a pleasure you take care all of us. Megan.

1797
01:41:19,335 --> 01:41:22,415
Speaker 4: Thank you. Have a look at it online, folks. So

1798
01:41:22,535 --> 01:41:27,615
Speaker 4: that's to Qui Meyer m Aia dot co dot Nz.

1799
01:41:28,375 --> 01:41:30,975
Speaker 4: And there are links through to the auction and I

1800
01:41:31,055 --> 01:41:33,655
Speaker 4: really hope that this goes incredibly well for them. And

1801
01:41:33,735 --> 01:41:36,335
Speaker 4: through Galabid you can bid from anywhere in the country

1802
01:41:36,335 --> 01:41:39,415
Speaker 4: for most of those auction items. It's very tempting. I

1803
01:41:39,455 --> 01:41:43,055
Speaker 4: have to say, Rdio, let's jump into the garden. I

1804
01:41:43,095 --> 01:41:45,615
Speaker 4: think let's go for RUD. Let's see what's happening, because

1805
01:41:45,615 --> 01:41:49,135
Speaker 4: apparently the gardens are waking up. This was RUD yesterday

1806
01:41:49,135 --> 01:41:51,855
Speaker 4: with Jack talking about things that we can start to

1807
01:41:51,895 --> 01:41:57,455
Speaker 4: do and based on Keith's comments a moment ago is

1808
01:41:57,575 --> 01:41:59,615
Speaker 4: if you think you've got a problem with Bora, is

1809
01:41:59,695 --> 01:42:03,015
Speaker 4: now the time to start planning given that Bora are

1810
01:42:03,095 --> 01:42:06,135
Speaker 4: on the wing fairly soon? I wait one hundred eighty

1811
01:42:06,655 --> 01:42:08,415
Speaker 4: if he'd like to talk to rout back in a moment.

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01:42:09,455 --> 01:42:11,975
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