1 00:00:02,970 --> 00:00:07,949 Speaker 1: I abandoned the dream of getting married and having Children. 2 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:08,460 Speaker 1: Why 3 00:00:08,699 --> 00:00:09,029 Speaker 2: my 4 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:12,069 Speaker 2: dream was also to be a mother. But after marriage 5 00:00:12,079 --> 00:00:13,989 Speaker 2: then I've started to reconsider. 6 00:00:14,829 --> 00:00:17,059 Speaker 1: Can you don't act like it's the first time hearing 7 00:00:17,379 --> 00:00:19,110 Speaker 1: she got it before. I always thought that you still 8 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:19,909 Speaker 1: like confirm. 9 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:20,870 Speaker 2: I do want to 10 00:00:20,879 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 2: but I just, no, no, no, no, no, no. 11 00:00:30,799 --> 00:00:32,759 Speaker 2: Hello, everyone. Welcome to the hot pot where we hop 12 00:00:32,770 --> 00:00:35,339 Speaker 2: into different parts of spaces. People find themselves in during 13 00:00:35,348 --> 00:00:36,939 Speaker 2: life transitions. I'm Joey, 14 00:00:36,950 --> 00:00:39,869 Speaker 1: I'm Nick. I'm Q. How have you guys been? It's 15 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:43,319 Speaker 1: been a while. Ok. Well, it's ok. No good. 16 00:00:44,549 --> 00:00:46,470 Speaker 2: I wish I'd been doing as good as you. Look today. 17 00:00:47,540 --> 00:00:49,869 Speaker 1: You were looking at me when you were like sentence. 18 00:00:49,900 --> 00:00:51,930 Speaker 1: You want a compliment. I was ready for like I 19 00:00:52,330 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 1: was 20 00:00:52,740 --> 00:00:54,299 Speaker 2: ready for him to say like, oh my God, I 21 00:00:54,310 --> 00:00:55,650 Speaker 2: totally agree. 22 00:00:56,020 --> 00:00:58,650 Speaker 1: Like I can get my linkedin picture taken today. No, 23 00:00:58,790 --> 00:00:59,380 Speaker 1: I wouldn't like you 24 00:00:59,409 --> 00:01:00,349 Speaker 2: ready for a sneaky 25 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:00,900 Speaker 2: link, 26 00:01:01,009 --> 00:01:08,900 Speaker 1: like sneak in this outfit. You don't understand that. 27 00:01:10,139 --> 00:01:14,628 Speaker 2: Oh, anyway, speaking of guys, we hit the nail on 28 00:01:14,639 --> 00:01:17,110 Speaker 2: the head with the topic. You guys guess. Exactly. Right. 29 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:21,269 Speaker 2: We are talking about adulting and why is adulting so hard? 30 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:24,150 Speaker 1: Very hard. Adulting is my favorite thing to do. Don't 31 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:27,110 Speaker 1: pretend to be perfect in front of the audience. All 32 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:30,169 Speaker 1: you do is cry over telegram to us. It is true. Yeah. 33 00:01:30,860 --> 00:01:31,699 Speaker 1: All the time. Yeah. 34 00:01:32,709 --> 00:01:35,809 Speaker 1: He hates adult thing. He just pretends I just pretend 35 00:01:35,930 --> 00:01:41,949 Speaker 1: it's all a f it's linger. Linger 36 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:46,550 Speaker 1: as an adult thing is truly hard. I feel like 37 00:01:46,559 --> 00:01:49,569 Speaker 1: I'm going through a phase where I'm, what about adopting? 38 00:01:50,029 --> 00:01:52,769 Speaker 1: Can you let me finish when people interrupt me when 39 00:01:52,779 --> 00:01:55,599 Speaker 1: I'm talking? Yeah. You say you say TD I know 40 00:01:55,610 --> 00:01:58,750 Speaker 1: you didn't ask me how I am. No things happen 41 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:02,269 Speaker 1: at home. One of my parents is a little bit 42 00:02:02,279 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: injured now. So like it was a recent thing that 43 00:02:05,129 --> 00:02:07,339 Speaker 1: happened and then I'm just so stressed out 44 00:02:07,839 --> 00:02:11,698 Speaker 1: before the incident, right? I didn't have to worry about 45 00:02:11,710 --> 00:02:14,419 Speaker 1: my parents' health like it was never a major thing 46 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 1: and then suddenly I'm like activated to be a bit 47 00:02:18,610 --> 00:02:21,750 Speaker 1: of a caretaker for a while. Yeah. Yeah. What is 48 00:02:21,758 --> 00:02:22,910 Speaker 1: adulting to you 49 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:27,300 Speaker 1: just live your life? I think 50 00:02:27,309 --> 00:02:30,809 Speaker 2: we are living very, we play very different ma this game, 51 00:02:30,820 --> 00:02:34,109 Speaker 2: but I do feel like adulting is like we are 52 00:02:34,119 --> 00:02:36,710 Speaker 2: having a good life but it's tiring because we are 53 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:39,500 Speaker 2: making a good life. You know, I mean, like we 54 00:02:39,508 --> 00:02:42,029 Speaker 2: are doing all the things that we need to do 55 00:02:42,220 --> 00:02:44,478 Speaker 2: to ensure that we have a balance and striking a 56 00:02:44,490 --> 00:02:47,929 Speaker 2: balance in itself is so tiring. Let's start off with 57 00:02:47,940 --> 00:02:49,889 Speaker 2: this thing that has been going around. I don't know, 58 00:02:49,899 --> 00:02:50,869 Speaker 2: it's been making round 59 00:02:50,979 --> 00:02:53,579 Speaker 2: on your social media, but I've been seeing it's called 60 00:02:53,589 --> 00:02:54,918 Speaker 2: the Adopting Checklist. 61 00:02:55,460 --> 00:02:57,710 Speaker 1: Oh, I saw it yesterday night. Is it the fridge, 62 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:02,630 Speaker 1: set the washing machine, setting the washing machine setting, I guess. 63 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 2: Knowing your washing machine settings, blah, blah, blah. Yeah, there's 64 00:03:05,330 --> 00:03:08,710 Speaker 2: all these things. So, ok, you're excited when plans are canceled. 65 00:03:09,199 --> 00:03:12,220 Speaker 1: True. It depends on who I'm not excited 66 00:03:12,429 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 2: because you plan 67 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:15,809 Speaker 1: because I won't say yes to unless I'm excited like 68 00:03:15,820 --> 00:03:17,660 Speaker 1: really truly excited about a plan. 69 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:19,750 Speaker 2: Ok, you're excited to go to bed. 70 00:03:20,139 --> 00:03:24,149 Speaker 1: Yes. Yeah, my goodness. I love my skin care routine 71 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:26,309 Speaker 1: and then under the sheets. 72 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:27,679 Speaker 2: Oh my God. Do the happy dance. You got. 73 00:03:29,410 --> 00:03:32,770 Speaker 2: You love the smell of your laundry powder. A bit indifferent. 74 00:03:32,779 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 2: I buy. What cheap? 75 00:03:33,770 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, same. 76 00:03:34,300 --> 00:03:34,529 Speaker 2: Do you 77 00:03:34,538 --> 00:03:34,649 Speaker 1: use 78 00:03:34,660 --> 00:03:35,940 Speaker 2: the pots on that melts 79 00:03:35,949 --> 00:03:38,929 Speaker 1: in the sorry, my my mom is still in charge 80 00:03:39,050 --> 00:03:43,639 Speaker 2: of honestly adulting to me, right? Is having 20 pairs 81 00:03:43,649 --> 00:03:43,889 Speaker 2: of 82 00:03:44,244 --> 00:03:47,354 Speaker 2: or like none. Anyway, back pain when you sneeze. 83 00:03:47,554 --> 00:03:48,934 Speaker 1: No, no, no. 84 00:03:48,985 --> 00:03:49,945 Speaker 2: A bit 85 00:03:50,005 --> 00:03:53,134 Speaker 1: of the one I think like you just general wellness. 86 00:03:53,145 --> 00:03:55,505 Speaker 1: Not so good when I'm at a cafe or food court, right? 87 00:03:55,514 --> 00:03:58,845 Speaker 1: I must go to a seat that has a backing. 88 00:03:59,604 --> 00:04:02,854 Speaker 1: I cannot see without a begging to life. No. And 89 00:04:03,035 --> 00:04:04,925 Speaker 1: then you go to you go to a bar then 90 00:04:04,934 --> 00:04:05,654 Speaker 1: you can see high chair 91 00:04:07,220 --> 00:04:09,339 Speaker 2: because you have the bar to rest your elbow 92 00:04:09,350 --> 00:04:09,869 Speaker 2: on. 93 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:13,550 Speaker 1: But usually I will opt for like the low seats backing. 94 00:04:14,369 --> 00:04:18,049 Speaker 2: Getting excited when cleaning products or furnitures go on sale. 95 00:04:18,059 --> 00:04:18,290 Speaker 2: Not 96 00:04:18,299 --> 00:04:18,690 Speaker 1: really. 97 00:04:20,269 --> 00:04:22,039 Speaker 2: No. As in like I see something like a container 98 00:04:22,049 --> 00:04:23,419 Speaker 2: and say, oh my God love. 99 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:28,469 Speaker 1: But I relate to the whole 1111 and then feel like, 100 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:30,789 Speaker 1: oh my God, faster, faster. Cut up, cut out. Yeah. Ok. 101 00:04:30,799 --> 00:04:32,868 Speaker 1: I will take the opportunity. Like if I go to JB, 102 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:35,220 Speaker 1: I will buy cleaning products. I, a lot of, oh 103 00:04:35,230 --> 00:04:37,209 Speaker 1: my God. I know a lot of friends who do that. 104 00:04:37,220 --> 00:04:40,089 Speaker 1: You see or they would drive the JB and then 105 00:04:40,100 --> 00:04:46,690 Speaker 1: stock up their entire boo with like su like that 106 00:04:48,119 --> 00:04:51,558 Speaker 1: on the attack. So 107 00:04:52,488 --> 00:04:55,279 Speaker 2: I found a new better one called is stronger than 108 00:04:55,309 --> 00:04:58,790 Speaker 2: the Yeah. Yeah. Anyway. Ok. You miss your bed when 109 00:04:58,799 --> 00:05:00,970 Speaker 2: you're on a holiday or you're excited to be home 110 00:05:00,980 --> 00:05:01,959 Speaker 2: after a holiday? 111 00:05:02,220 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 1: Yes. Right. This year, especially there for me. I feel 112 00:05:05,890 --> 00:05:08,739 Speaker 1: like I travel be too much like for work, for 113 00:05:08,750 --> 00:05:10,980 Speaker 1: work or then really like I just want to see 114 00:05:10,988 --> 00:05:11,368 Speaker 1: my bit. 115 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:14,019 Speaker 2: There's also abandoning your dreams, 116 00:05:16,649 --> 00:05:19,510 Speaker 1: dreams. What kind of dreams? I wanted to be a singer. 117 00:05:22,079 --> 00:05:24,309 Speaker 1: This was when I was very young but you can, 118 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:24,489 Speaker 1: I 119 00:05:24,928 --> 00:05:26,459 Speaker 2: think, I think you can hold a tune 120 00:05:26,910 --> 00:05:30,390 Speaker 1: but I just, I just the espresso don't know. What's that? 121 00:05:31,488 --> 00:05:32,868 Speaker 1: This example example, 122 00:05:33,170 --> 00:05:33,829 Speaker 2: I'm not doing it, 123 00:05:34,260 --> 00:05:37,209 Speaker 1: please. Say example one. Do you, do you, do you do? 124 00:05:37,519 --> 00:05:40,779 Speaker 1: I cannot, I never dreamed to be OK. OK. But 125 00:05:41,089 --> 00:05:45,940 Speaker 1: I have had other, I got, I got a question 126 00:05:45,950 --> 00:05:46,399 Speaker 1: for you. 127 00:05:47,225 --> 00:05:50,433 Speaker 1: Do you dream to be 30? Under 30? No, you 128 00:05:50,445 --> 00:05:55,075 Speaker 1: never aim for that. I did joke about it. Nick 129 00:05:55,084 --> 00:05:58,575 Speaker 1: was on Forbes. 30 under 30. Yeah. Yeah. But it 130 00:05:58,584 --> 00:06:02,144 Speaker 1: was quite funny because like, I think four years ago then, 131 00:06:02,154 --> 00:06:04,454 Speaker 1: like just, and I always had an inside joke where 132 00:06:04,464 --> 00:06:07,494 Speaker 1: whenever like I had a career milestone or I hear 133 00:06:07,505 --> 00:06:11,294 Speaker 1: a career milestone then like, she'll be very happy for me. 134 00:06:11,345 --> 00:06:12,515 Speaker 1: Then I always be like, yeah, 135 00:06:13,350 --> 00:06:15,910 Speaker 1: 3430 under 30 then she always laugh. So when you 136 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:18,130 Speaker 1: actually did, what did she say? She like be mind 137 00:06:18,140 --> 00:06:18,630 Speaker 1: blown off. 138 00:06:20,170 --> 00:06:21,500 Speaker 1: Now, I also be my, I was like, can you 139 00:06:21,559 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: believe it because he was like always an inside joke? 140 00:06:25,428 --> 00:06:28,559 Speaker 1: But do you have other dreams that you gave up on? 141 00:06:28,709 --> 00:06:32,279 Speaker 1: I wanted to be a full time badminton player. 142 00:06:32,769 --> 00:06:37,099 Speaker 1: Why you laugh? Really? You have to be locate you? 143 00:06:37,109 --> 00:06:39,510 Speaker 1: Is it? I think you don't understand like I'm really 144 00:06:39,519 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 1: quite good. 145 00:06:40,010 --> 00:06:40,349 Speaker 2: No, 146 00:06:40,359 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: as in it's not really really, you know, I found 147 00:06:43,769 --> 00:06:46,609 Speaker 1: out that he recently has been playing badminton. I think 148 00:06:46,630 --> 00:06:46,829 Speaker 1: I saw 149 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:47,829 Speaker 2: a video. I'm so 150 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:48,399 Speaker 2: surprised 151 00:06:48,410 --> 00:06:53,500 Speaker 1: that like this man go take one, he takes a 152 00:06:53,519 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 1: badminton record to go play for leisure. Ok. My parents 153 00:06:57,010 --> 00:06:59,809 Speaker 1: were quite involved in my dreams. They never outright, like, 154 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:01,950 Speaker 1: you know, like sometimes you watch show then they're like 155 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:05,410 Speaker 1: you do this no future. And they were never like that. 156 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:07,329 Speaker 1: It was always just very like, why don't you just 157 00:07:07,339 --> 00:07:09,089 Speaker 1: let it? Then they made me go one big round 158 00:07:09,100 --> 00:07:12,239 Speaker 1: until I forget about it. Oh, distraction. They distract me 159 00:07:12,250 --> 00:07:15,190 Speaker 1: until I'm old enough to realize that that was a 160 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:16,309 Speaker 2: distraction. 161 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:19,119 Speaker 1: Yeah. But the window for me to be a program 162 00:07:20,540 --> 00:07:21,500 Speaker 1: when come and gone, 163 00:07:21,510 --> 00:07:24,380 Speaker 2: you never know. Maybe when you're 5060 can now a 164 00:07:24,390 --> 00:07:25,279 Speaker 2: bit too young 165 00:07:25,410 --> 00:07:28,299 Speaker 1: internationally. They have like a masters tournament. 166 00:07:28,839 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 1: So you can represent Singapore and play in the masters. 167 00:07:31,170 --> 00:07:34,059 Speaker 1: Like above 60. That kind. So you just, and then 168 00:07:34,070 --> 00:07:36,119 Speaker 1: I went to see the standard, right? Because everybody cannot 169 00:07:36,130 --> 00:07:39,549 Speaker 1: run anymore. So you just need to maintain the physical fitness. Right? 170 00:07:39,739 --> 00:07:40,230 Speaker 1: To wait. 171 00:07:41,019 --> 00:07:41,119 Speaker 1: Yeah. 172 00:07:41,359 --> 00:07:44,410 Speaker 2: Ok. Next time when you're 60 we will hop out 173 00:07:44,420 --> 00:07:47,420 Speaker 2: reunion and then he's doing he badminton. 174 00:07:47,619 --> 00:07:47,700 Speaker 1: I 175 00:07:47,709 --> 00:07:50,380 Speaker 1: don't think I had a career dream that, like, I 176 00:07:50,390 --> 00:07:53,339 Speaker 1: really wanted it. But I think 177 00:07:54,260 --> 00:07:58,450 Speaker 1: the dream of being a wife and a mother. No. 178 00:07:58,459 --> 00:08:04,869 Speaker 1: Is it like for real? Right. Being a wife? I, ok. Marriage. Marriage. Yeah. Ok. 179 00:08:05,149 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 1: I abandoned the dream of 180 00:08:07,420 --> 00:08:12,739 Speaker 1: getting married and having Children. Why you need to abandon 181 00:08:12,779 --> 00:08:16,190 Speaker 1: for what? No. No, I don't think I've abandoned it totally. 182 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:16,869 Speaker 1: The 183 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:18,100 Speaker 2: great, 184 00:08:18,269 --> 00:08:22,630 Speaker 1: correct. Correct. I think that vision is getting further and 185 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:23,390 Speaker 1: further away, 186 00:08:23,820 --> 00:08:25,940 Speaker 1: but I don't, I don't pity myself. I feel like 187 00:08:25,950 --> 00:08:28,339 Speaker 1: I'm actually glad that I did not marry early and 188 00:08:28,350 --> 00:08:31,049 Speaker 1: I did not settle for someone that I was not 189 00:08:31,059 --> 00:08:34,340 Speaker 1: even in love with. I'm very happy with my life. 190 00:08:34,349 --> 00:08:40,010 Speaker 1: It's just that I think what my child version of myself, imagine. Right. 191 00:08:40,020 --> 00:08:42,909 Speaker 1: Is not there anymore. I might, I might get married 192 00:08:42,919 --> 00:08:45,510 Speaker 1: quite late and I'm ok with that. Yeah, I'm ok 193 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:48,608 Speaker 1: with that. But I think I've abandoned the dream of 194 00:08:48,619 --> 00:08:49,229 Speaker 1: having Children. 195 00:08:49,570 --> 00:08:51,369 Speaker 1: That one is give up. Really? 196 00:08:51,380 --> 00:08:51,710 Speaker 2: My 197 00:08:51,719 --> 00:08:55,010 Speaker 2: dream was also to be a mother specifically. I want 198 00:08:55,020 --> 00:08:55,559 Speaker 2: to be a mother but 199 00:08:55,570 --> 00:08:56,179 Speaker 1: then you abandon 200 00:08:56,609 --> 00:08:56,729 Speaker 1: it. 201 00:08:57,380 --> 00:09:01,390 Speaker 2: But I have been, I'm surprised but after marriage then 202 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:03,030 Speaker 2: I've started to reconsider. 203 00:09:03,950 --> 00:09:06,450 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Can you don't act like it's the first 204 00:09:06,460 --> 00:09:07,979 Speaker 1: time hearing she was before? No, 205 00:09:07,989 --> 00:09:11,409 Speaker 2: I see before. I just think that it's very complicated 206 00:09:11,419 --> 00:09:11,929 Speaker 2: and 207 00:09:12,059 --> 00:09:14,390 Speaker 1: as much as I always thought that you still like 208 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:15,010 Speaker 1: confirm I do 209 00:09:15,020 --> 00:09:15,919 Speaker 2: want to but 210 00:09:15,929 --> 00:09:19,030 Speaker 2: I just, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I, 211 00:09:19,039 --> 00:09:23,299 Speaker 2: I'm still leaning towards. Yes, but I have one eye 212 00:09:23,309 --> 00:09:24,539 Speaker 2: open when I'm sleeping. 213 00:09:27,150 --> 00:09:30,190 Speaker 2: But ok dream right. Growing up, I wanted to be 214 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:33,140 Speaker 2: a NTC Casher. I thought it was so cool. Right. 215 00:09:33,270 --> 00:09:35,968 Speaker 2: When they got no more coins, then they go and 216 00:09:35,979 --> 00:09:37,159 Speaker 2: open the paper on the 217 00:09:37,169 --> 00:09:39,598 Speaker 1: new cos oh, 218 00:09:40,359 --> 00:09:43,130 Speaker 2: coins that come like in one long role like that 219 00:09:43,140 --> 00:09:43,590 Speaker 2: is the, 220 00:09:44,010 --> 00:09:45,679 Speaker 1: is like I understand, you know, like I think I 221 00:09:45,690 --> 00:09:46,819 Speaker 1: feel like there was a point where I want to 222 00:09:46,830 --> 00:09:49,289 Speaker 1: be a cashier. So, but then no, you know, you 223 00:09:49,299 --> 00:09:51,099 Speaker 1: know what turned me off? There was a very specific thing. 224 00:09:51,109 --> 00:09:53,500 Speaker 1: Is it? The paper is the, the? 225 00:09:54,362 --> 00:09:54,762 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 226 00:09:56,052 --> 00:09:58,473 Speaker 2: No, some is sponge. Some is the roller ball. There's 227 00:09:58,482 --> 00:09:59,453 Speaker 2: something they just like 228 00:09:59,463 --> 00:10:02,102 Speaker 1: that. Is it to take the plastic bag? Yeah. Then 229 00:10:02,112 --> 00:10:04,143 Speaker 1: they always touch the sponge, then it just looks like 230 00:10:04,442 --> 00:10:07,862 Speaker 1: a yellow but look like that. So you abandon your 231 00:10:07,872 --> 00:10:09,343 Speaker 1: dream because of the sponge 232 00:10:09,352 --> 00:10:11,903 Speaker 2: 100%. The sponge is absolutely not. No, there's ways you 233 00:10:11,913 --> 00:10:13,392 Speaker 2: can either. You can either that one. I thought they 234 00:10:13,403 --> 00:10:14,381 Speaker 1: damn like powerful, 235 00:10:14,635 --> 00:10:17,226 Speaker 1: like sometimes like I queue for very long. Right? Then 236 00:10:17,236 --> 00:10:18,955 Speaker 1: I'm the next person right. Then they just close the 237 00:10:18,966 --> 00:10:21,906 Speaker 1: queue like you can say earlier, but they never, I 238 00:10:21,916 --> 00:10:24,986 Speaker 1: was like, wow, you have so much authority 239 00:10:25,315 --> 00:10:29,625 Speaker 2: like next one on the checklist, settling your own meals. 240 00:10:29,695 --> 00:10:31,375 Speaker 1: I think I am like crushing it. 241 00:10:31,535 --> 00:10:33,536 Speaker 2: I think like, no doubt, no doubt, no doubt. 242 00:10:33,934 --> 00:10:34,625 Speaker 1: I cook 243 00:10:35,010 --> 00:10:36,330 Speaker 1: 90% of my meals. 244 00:10:36,340 --> 00:10:36,799 Speaker 2: He said that a 245 00:10:36,809 --> 00:10:39,859 Speaker 2: lot of I cook, like go out air, come out. 246 00:10:39,869 --> 00:10:43,299 Speaker 1: He is looking like it's not any. Yeah. Yeah, I 247 00:10:43,309 --> 00:10:46,150 Speaker 1: heard good things about it. I mean, I tried it before. Not. 248 00:10:46,530 --> 00:10:49,718 Speaker 1: Does it take a lot of time to cook, to cook, 249 00:10:49,729 --> 00:10:52,079 Speaker 1: to clean, wash the dishes? 250 00:10:52,159 --> 00:10:56,299 Speaker 2: Yes. But there are ways to make it more efficient 251 00:10:56,309 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 2: by ingredient. 252 00:10:56,969 --> 00:10:57,479 Speaker 2: Prepping. 253 00:10:57,729 --> 00:10:59,369 Speaker 1: I mean, for me a bit different, I feel like 254 00:10:59,380 --> 00:11:01,460 Speaker 1: I am quite efficient because 255 00:11:02,099 --> 00:11:04,969 Speaker 1: I have worked in a professional kitchen before that I 256 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:07,770 Speaker 1: work for your face like that. That's why I work 257 00:11:08,409 --> 00:11:11,020 Speaker 1: like but not, not, oh, wait, you mentioned this before. 258 00:11:11,109 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 1: Why I work, I worked in a Chinese restaurant like 259 00:11:13,530 --> 00:11:15,780 Speaker 1: a restaurant. How old were you? How many lives have 260 00:11:15,789 --> 00:11:17,469 Speaker 1: you led? This is when I was in poly and 261 00:11:17,479 --> 00:11:20,659 Speaker 1: then actually I have be cheated because I signed up 262 00:11:20,669 --> 00:11:24,309 Speaker 1: to be a waiter. Then suddenly they say like inside, 263 00:11:24,940 --> 00:11:26,750 Speaker 1: how come the waiter must go inside? I will 264 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:28,359 Speaker 2: want to watch you. Like if you got your own 265 00:11:28,369 --> 00:11:29,780 Speaker 2: Gordon Ramsey House kitchen, I want 266 00:11:29,789 --> 00:11:29,809 Speaker 2: to 267 00:11:29,820 --> 00:11:32,939 Speaker 1: watch for those who are adulting and struggling because you're 268 00:11:32,950 --> 00:11:36,770 Speaker 1: not a good cook. Air fryer. Air fryer really is 269 00:11:36,780 --> 00:11:38,650 Speaker 1: the question everything put inside 270 00:11:38,830 --> 00:11:41,090 Speaker 2: next, getting your driver's license. 271 00:11:41,109 --> 00:11:41,599 Speaker 1: Actually you don't 272 00:11:41,609 --> 00:11:43,579 Speaker 1: have right. No. Well, you call her out 273 00:11:43,770 --> 00:11:44,619 Speaker 1: so, 274 00:11:45,049 --> 00:11:48,710 Speaker 2: so fast. Ok? No, I'm not scared. 275 00:11:48,719 --> 00:11:49,729 Speaker 1: Passenger Princess, 276 00:11:49,739 --> 00:11:52,409 Speaker 2: I'm waiting to go to America and take it because 277 00:11:52,419 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 2: I'll be on the other side of the true, that true. 278 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:56,239 Speaker 2: That true as in, I have thought about getting in 279 00:11:56,250 --> 00:11:59,460 Speaker 2: Singapore also because then I can drive globally. Whereas in 280 00:11:59,469 --> 00:12:02,390 Speaker 2: America they come to Singapore to convert bla bla bla bla, 281 00:12:03,049 --> 00:12:05,789 Speaker 2: I've heard so many horror stories about learning in Singapore 282 00:12:05,799 --> 00:12:06,709 Speaker 2: that I'm a bit scared. Ok, 283 00:12:07,659 --> 00:12:10,130 Speaker 1: so the uncle a bit aggressive. You 284 00:12:10,859 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 2: sh 285 00:12:12,479 --> 00:12:14,989 Speaker 1: you. Yes. Yeah. I tell you the first time I 286 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:18,099 Speaker 1: feel my, my driver's license test, right? Is because the 287 00:12:18,109 --> 00:12:20,830 Speaker 1: uncle very aggresive you feel I feel twice so you 288 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:24,209 Speaker 1: pass on the third time. Yes, because auto, yes. 289 00:12:25,210 --> 00:12:28,488 Speaker 1: No. Can I just tell you why? First immediate failure? 290 00:12:28,500 --> 00:12:32,679 Speaker 1: Because I'm on because the uncle stress me out so 291 00:12:32,739 --> 00:12:33,369 Speaker 1: aggressive. 292 00:12:33,380 --> 00:12:35,579 Speaker 2: I've heard a lot of horror stories of them just 293 00:12:35,590 --> 00:12:36,679 Speaker 2: being very verbally 294 00:12:36,690 --> 00:12:37,150 Speaker 2: abusive. 295 00:12:37,159 --> 00:12:38,890 Speaker 1: Can you take, let's 296 00:12:38,900 --> 00:12:41,069 Speaker 2: make it a series. Comment down below. If you want 297 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:43,530 Speaker 2: to see a series of me from start to finish 298 00:12:43,539 --> 00:12:45,109 Speaker 2: getting my driver's license, how many times 299 00:12:45,215 --> 00:12:46,314 Speaker 2: we can get it covered? 300 00:12:46,335 --> 00:12:48,054 Speaker 1: I think she'll fail two times. So 301 00:12:48,065 --> 00:12:53,174 Speaker 2: um my Daytona, right. I'm pretty, I'm pretty damn great 302 00:12:53,224 --> 00:12:58,294 Speaker 2: sometimes when I got the right. It's just for theatrics. No. 303 00:12:58,304 --> 00:12:59,164 Speaker 1: Will you do auto manal 304 00:12:59,424 --> 00:13:02,434 Speaker 2: guys? I don't care what I do or you gotta decide, 305 00:13:02,445 --> 00:13:04,015 Speaker 2: let me show you what I want to do. Ok, 306 00:13:04,025 --> 00:13:05,424 Speaker 2: let me show you. I just want to do this 307 00:13:06,940 --> 00:13:09,109 Speaker 2: and then then that the thing we, 308 00:13:10,140 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 1: we have a new upcoming series which is all about 309 00:13:12,770 --> 00:13:17,450 Speaker 1: adulting challenges and task relevant. I know, right? It's all 310 00:13:17,460 --> 00:13:20,669 Speaker 1: linked Multiverse. OK. And I and I picked up Joey 311 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 1: and Joe was like, can you like look back? She 312 00:13:22,530 --> 00:13:26,210 Speaker 1: wanted me to do this? I want to do that. Right. Yeah, 313 00:13:26,289 --> 00:13:29,409 Speaker 1: I look for, you know, the mirror, I just want 314 00:13:29,419 --> 00:13:32,039 Speaker 1: her to do. No, literally I got the camera the screen. 315 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:34,799 Speaker 1: I just said that, reverse that. Then she want me to, 316 00:13:35,619 --> 00:13:38,530 Speaker 2: I want to put a hand behind my back. And 317 00:13:38,539 --> 00:13:39,940 Speaker 1: when I did that, then she like, oh my God, 318 00:13:42,500 --> 00:13:44,539 Speaker 1: I think you will feel three times. Then you pass 319 00:13:44,549 --> 00:13:45,469 Speaker 1: on the fourth. I 320 00:13:45,479 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 1: think 321 00:13:46,409 --> 00:13:48,919 Speaker 2: I will pass on the first try. How about that? 322 00:13:49,090 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 2: So guys, what are some adulting woes that no one 323 00:13:52,409 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 2: prepare you for? 324 00:13:55,409 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 1: I think recently, right? It's a very small thing. I 325 00:13:58,409 --> 00:14:02,340 Speaker 1: texted my uncles, I asked them guys what's a good 326 00:14:02,349 --> 00:14:08,349 Speaker 1: cut for miles? Because I've never really actively you telling 327 00:14:08,500 --> 00:14:10,340 Speaker 1: me up? Ok. So I have never really like 328 00:14:11,070 --> 00:14:15,210 Speaker 1: research much about a good cut that to earn miles. 329 00:14:15,630 --> 00:14:18,460 Speaker 1: And I realized through Nick, right? That is so important 330 00:14:18,469 --> 00:14:21,150 Speaker 1: because he has told me like, I, I got a 331 00:14:21,159 --> 00:14:24,429 Speaker 1: free ticket to don't know where to, don't know where 332 00:14:24,450 --> 00:14:27,419 Speaker 1: I'm like, wow, I want that kind of life for me, right? 333 00:14:27,429 --> 00:14:30,380 Speaker 1: Is nobody teach me how to retire or plan for retirement? 334 00:14:31,190 --> 00:14:33,169 Speaker 1: Like the financial planning, you know, like, what must you 335 00:14:33,179 --> 00:14:35,179 Speaker 1: have in place before you can retire 336 00:14:35,890 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 1: about retirement very far? What about the people for the 337 00:14:38,210 --> 00:14:41,919 Speaker 1: people who just graduated? If you just graduated, you should 338 00:14:41,929 --> 00:14:43,299 Speaker 1: be planning for retirement? Ok. 339 00:14:43,309 --> 00:14:45,500 Speaker 2: Ok. Ok. Ok. This is if you come from a 340 00:14:45,510 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 2: very financially and like, like secure in your career and 341 00:14:50,210 --> 00:14:51,130 Speaker 2: you know what you want for your 342 00:14:51,140 --> 00:14:51,559 Speaker 2: life, 343 00:14:51,570 --> 00:14:53,260 Speaker 1: if you are not secure in your career all the 344 00:14:53,270 --> 00:14:55,359 Speaker 1: more you need to plan properly to know what it takes. 345 00:14:55,369 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 2: I do think that retirement is something that comes with 346 00:14:58,849 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 2: privilege 347 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:00,299 Speaker 2: to think about. 348 00:15:00,770 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 1: I think that's quite a dangerous mindset because then you 349 00:15:03,849 --> 00:15:05,690 Speaker 1: are just stuck in a hole. I agree 350 00:15:05,700 --> 00:15:08,979 Speaker 2: that it's something that we needed to be taught about 351 00:15:08,989 --> 00:15:10,950 Speaker 2: because then at least you have that in your head 352 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:14,849 Speaker 2: retirement is definitely something that I have only started to 353 00:15:14,859 --> 00:15:18,460 Speaker 2: think about now. Yeah, because sometimes you really don't know, 354 00:15:18,469 --> 00:15:21,270 Speaker 2: like COVID was the one thing that really shifted and rock. 355 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:23,650 Speaker 2: I think a lot of people's worlds in that, like, wow, 356 00:15:24,539 --> 00:15:27,940 Speaker 2: nothing is permanent. Your job is not secure the job 357 00:15:27,950 --> 00:15:30,609 Speaker 2: we thought that was secure. A lot of switch career 358 00:15:30,619 --> 00:15:31,539 Speaker 2: path also, right? 359 00:15:31,940 --> 00:15:34,799 Speaker 1: Like financial planning and financial independence is something that we 360 00:15:34,809 --> 00:15:37,549 Speaker 1: were not taught to think about when we were young. 361 00:15:37,669 --> 00:15:39,359 Speaker 1: And then a lot of people just think that like, 362 00:15:39,369 --> 00:15:43,950 Speaker 1: the retirement age is like 6062 or 63 then I'm 363 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:47,159 Speaker 1: just gonna work until I'm 62 or 63. But like 364 00:15:48,130 --> 00:15:50,650 Speaker 1: what you end up with a 62 or 63 right? 365 00:15:50,659 --> 00:15:53,770 Speaker 1: Can be very different depending on how you plan for, for, 366 00:15:53,780 --> 00:15:55,390 Speaker 1: you know, how you spend your money and things like that. 367 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:56,070 Speaker 2: Actually, I think 368 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:59,750 Speaker 2: the one thing that I noticed in adulthood was that 369 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:02,630 Speaker 2: you need to create your own time table. But in 370 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:06,299 Speaker 2: school you had a balance of music or hobbies that 371 00:16:06,309 --> 00:16:10,479 Speaker 2: you can do. Pe there's physical activity, there's time to eat, 372 00:16:10,489 --> 00:16:11,380 Speaker 2: take a break. 373 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:15,510 Speaker 2: There's always food available. So like you don't have to 374 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:18,830 Speaker 2: remember to eat because all these things are scheduled, these 375 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:20,159 Speaker 2: things are planned out. 376 00:16:20,739 --> 00:16:24,049 Speaker 1: Wait, actually, when you mentioned pe Right. I just know this. 377 00:16:24,059 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 1: Oh my God. Pe is then forcing us to exercise 378 00:16:26,289 --> 00:16:28,109 Speaker 1: on a regular basis. I thought it was just all 379 00:16:28,119 --> 00:16:29,929 Speaker 1: fun and games and I think that's why a lot 380 00:16:29,940 --> 00:16:30,109 Speaker 1: of people 381 00:16:30,325 --> 00:16:33,364 Speaker 1: that come out of school, right? Then they end up 382 00:16:33,375 --> 00:16:36,344 Speaker 1: like they gain weight because they never exercise they terribly 383 00:16:36,585 --> 00:16:39,375 Speaker 1: or they eat regularly, that kind of thing. And also, 384 00:16:39,385 --> 00:16:42,354 Speaker 1: right was CC is in place for us to find 385 00:16:42,364 --> 00:16:45,385 Speaker 1: fulfillment and purpose in other means. They're pushing for us 386 00:16:45,395 --> 00:16:48,474 Speaker 1: to have hobbies. But then after you graduate, 387 00:16:48,909 --> 00:16:50,770 Speaker 1: you kind of need to find your own hobbies. 388 00:16:50,780 --> 00:16:56,909 Speaker 2: It's true because it honestly didn't add value to your educational. Like, 389 00:16:56,919 --> 00:17:00,169 Speaker 2: so you had, you were graded on it, but yet 390 00:17:00,179 --> 00:17:03,570 Speaker 2: they expected so much of you in commitments like SYF 391 00:17:03,590 --> 00:17:05,010 Speaker 2: and then as adults, we end up 392 00:17:05,170 --> 00:17:08,270 Speaker 2: finding Facebook groups like for Nick, for example, your plant, 393 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:11,989 Speaker 2: good people or they, they join a class and then 394 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:13,609 Speaker 2: they make new friends out there. Like this is our 395 00:17:13,619 --> 00:17:14,109 Speaker 2: CC 396 00:17:14,369 --> 00:17:17,109 Speaker 1: and when you mentioned groups, right? The hardest part for 397 00:17:17,290 --> 00:17:20,669 Speaker 1: me when it comes to adulting sometimes is finding time 398 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:21,300 Speaker 1: to meet 399 00:17:21,699 --> 00:17:24,979 Speaker 1: like everyone's schedule, don't align, you end up meeting two 400 00:17:24,989 --> 00:17:27,699 Speaker 1: months later. What the hell like, when did this happen? 401 00:17:27,839 --> 00:17:29,959 Speaker 1: Like when you plan a gathering, you need to plan 402 00:17:29,969 --> 00:17:32,810 Speaker 1: like months, you need to do a poll with 10 403 00:17:32,819 --> 00:17:35,790 Speaker 1: dates or 15 dates. Yeah. Oh, my goodness. 404 00:17:37,790 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 1: Question. What job would you be terrible at? I think 405 00:17:42,810 --> 00:17:47,069 Speaker 1: I cannot be a childcare teacher. You cannot, please do not. 406 00:17:47,079 --> 00:17:49,438 Speaker 1: That will be a crime. They'll grow up with trauma. 407 00:17:49,859 --> 00:17:52,349 Speaker 1: I think. Actually, I think they will grow up quite 408 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 1: like solid but it's just at the expense. They will 409 00:17:54,569 --> 00:18:01,270 Speaker 1: just be marching like super soldiers. Would you rather eat 410 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:03,780 Speaker 1: a dead cockroach or kiss a live frog? 411 00:18:05,030 --> 00:18:08,160 Speaker 1: Can I just say that my father a big cockroach before? Why? 412 00:18:08,170 --> 00:18:10,369 Speaker 1: As in sorry, I think it might be a live cockroach. 413 00:18:10,380 --> 00:18:10,719 Speaker 1: I think 414 00:18:10,729 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 2: size them important if it's like small is ok. But 415 00:18:13,290 --> 00:18:14,869 Speaker 2: big is damn scary. Yeah. Yeah. 416 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:20,540 Speaker 1: So right. Kiss a frog. No. Finish your story. No, 417 00:18:20,550 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter how big is the cockroach. Oh, you 418 00:18:22,530 --> 00:18:26,069 Speaker 1: want to know my father's? Oh, sorry, sorry. I thought 419 00:18:26,079 --> 00:18:29,300 Speaker 1: like I said it. No, I think it was like 420 00:18:29,310 --> 00:18:32,729 Speaker 1: a medium size cockroach and then it crawled inside and 421 00:18:32,739 --> 00:18:33,339 Speaker 1: then he said, 422 00:18:34,430 --> 00:18:37,540 Speaker 1: he said he crunched it with his teeth and then 423 00:18:37,550 --> 00:18:40,069 Speaker 1: it so, so I don't know why you ask my 424 00:18:40,079 --> 00:18:40,209 Speaker 1: father 425 00:18:40,449 --> 00:18:43,819 Speaker 2: in your sleep. Like you just go into like we 426 00:18:46,380 --> 00:18:48,319 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Then he like he woke up. Then he realized, 427 00:18:48,329 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 1: oh my God, it's a cockroach. Like what? I don't know. 428 00:18:50,569 --> 00:18:50,750 Speaker 2: He 429 00:18:51,385 --> 00:18:52,614 Speaker 2: is a bit nutty. How 430 00:18:52,625 --> 00:18:53,025 Speaker 1: you know, 431 00:18:53,324 --> 00:18:53,484 Speaker 2: you 432 00:18:54,305 --> 00:18:55,165 Speaker 1: never, what 433 00:18:55,175 --> 00:18:59,305 Speaker 2: the describe the most recent photo in your photo album. 434 00:18:59,405 --> 00:19:01,515 Speaker 1: I hope it's not something kinky is Nick 435 00:19:01,525 --> 00:19:02,375 Speaker 2: and the fan 436 00:19:02,385 --> 00:19:03,135 Speaker 2: like blowing at 437 00:19:03,145 --> 00:19:03,675 Speaker 2: him. 438 00:19:03,685 --> 00:19:06,614 Speaker 1: I took, I took public transport here today. Then they 439 00:19:06,645 --> 00:19:07,775 Speaker 1: just like ridiculous, 440 00:19:08,300 --> 00:19:08,849 Speaker 1: ridiculous. 441 00:19:08,859 --> 00:19:09,250 Speaker 2: 15 442 00:19:09,260 --> 00:19:09,660 Speaker 1: minutes. 443 00:19:09,670 --> 00:19:10,250 Speaker 2: I was standing and 444 00:19:10,260 --> 00:19:10,640 Speaker 2: people 445 00:19:10,650 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 1: in a coffee. No, my Google Maps brought me to 446 00:19:13,770 --> 00:19:15,400 Speaker 1: the wrong, give me the wrong direction. So I had 447 00:19:15,410 --> 00:19:17,550 Speaker 1: to walk a lot. Then I was sweating when I 448 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:22,630 Speaker 1: got here then cannot shoot cause and and stuff. So 449 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:24,089 Speaker 1: then I had to sit in front of a fan 450 00:19:24,099 --> 00:19:25,290 Speaker 1: to dry off poor 451 00:19:25,390 --> 00:19:28,879 Speaker 2: Nick, the only Singaporean man to suffer from humidity. 452 00:19:30,670 --> 00:19:32,619 Speaker 1: And then right, I think sometimes it's a bit sad 453 00:19:32,630 --> 00:19:36,969 Speaker 1: when someone says I might want to go for another gathering. 454 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:41,780 Speaker 1: Have they were like, I might have something else then 455 00:19:41,790 --> 00:19:42,930 Speaker 1: it makes you feel like OK, that 456 00:19:42,939 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 2: means 457 00:19:43,469 --> 00:19:45,880 Speaker 2: we are not the top choice anymore. 458 00:19:45,890 --> 00:19:47,829 Speaker 1: I always thought that it's just cause like something planned 459 00:19:47,839 --> 00:19:52,670 Speaker 1: already like for example, Christmas OK, Christmas situation or like 460 00:19:52,709 --> 00:19:53,579 Speaker 1: Chinese New Year, 461 00:19:53,589 --> 00:19:54,379 Speaker 2: right? Which I think is 462 00:19:54,390 --> 00:19:58,938 Speaker 2: fair. But then it is a very distinct marker 463 00:19:59,036 --> 00:20:04,295 Speaker 2: of things have changed. Yeah. And things like bringing some block, 464 00:20:04,306 --> 00:20:08,816 Speaker 2: bringing wet wipes, bringing sanitizer or you know, this space 465 00:20:08,826 --> 00:20:10,754 Speaker 2: only takes cash. You need to make sure you go 466 00:20:10,765 --> 00:20:13,326 Speaker 2: and withdraw cash or things like that, that you never 467 00:20:13,336 --> 00:20:16,456 Speaker 2: had to think about because your parents thought of it. Like, parking, 468 00:20:16,465 --> 00:20:19,576 Speaker 2: where's the best place to park? Like I remember there 469 00:20:19,586 --> 00:20:22,426 Speaker 2: was one period where I would look to my friends 470 00:20:22,436 --> 00:20:25,365 Speaker 2: who maybe drove as like a while. They are adulting 471 00:20:25,375 --> 00:20:27,456 Speaker 2: at a faster rate because they have to adapt to more, 472 00:20:27,552 --> 00:20:30,251 Speaker 2: more and learn more. And I felt that I wasn't 473 00:20:30,541 --> 00:20:32,911 Speaker 2: progressing fast enough or like my friends who got full 474 00:20:32,921 --> 00:20:35,482 Speaker 2: time jobs now they have a better understanding of the 475 00:20:35,491 --> 00:20:39,891 Speaker 2: working world, like the commute, even going to get lunch 476 00:20:39,901 --> 00:20:41,932 Speaker 2: and like knowing how to do your own thing, finding 477 00:20:42,121 --> 00:20:44,491 Speaker 2: more independence because when you're at your job, then you 478 00:20:44,501 --> 00:20:47,602 Speaker 2: really need to plan your own time properly, right? So 479 00:20:47,612 --> 00:20:51,302 Speaker 2: then I really noticed the difference in people who have 480 00:20:51,311 --> 00:20:53,631 Speaker 2: gone out to do like bigger adulting 481 00:20:53,641 --> 00:20:54,052 Speaker 2: things. 482 00:20:54,061 --> 00:20:55,962 Speaker 1: Actually, the scary thing also is that like 483 00:20:56,599 --> 00:21:00,708 Speaker 1: the generational shift like in responsibilities to you from your 484 00:21:00,719 --> 00:21:04,890 Speaker 1: parents because like, I think something as simple as when 485 00:21:04,900 --> 00:21:07,030 Speaker 1: you go on a holiday with your family, right? You 486 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:09,469 Speaker 1: become the one that need to make decisions and plan 487 00:21:09,790 --> 00:21:13,150 Speaker 1: you cannot passenger princess anymore. So then last time when 488 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:17,669 Speaker 1: you're young is like, you can like you autopilot go. 489 00:21:17,770 --> 00:21:20,319 Speaker 1: But then now whenever there's an issue, like the answer 490 00:21:20,329 --> 00:21:22,660 Speaker 1: is here, like it needs to be from me. Well, 491 00:21:22,670 --> 00:21:25,390 Speaker 1: I can relate to this so much because recently 492 00:21:25,859 --> 00:21:28,569 Speaker 1: I've been planning for a Japan trip with my mom 493 00:21:28,579 --> 00:21:32,129 Speaker 1: and my sister. And then there's this consideration that my 494 00:21:32,140 --> 00:21:34,729 Speaker 1: mom is older now and she probably doesn't want to 495 00:21:34,739 --> 00:21:36,719 Speaker 1: walk too much. So then I cannot go to certain 496 00:21:36,729 --> 00:21:38,849 Speaker 1: areas like OK, we want to go to Takayama, which 497 00:21:38,859 --> 00:21:40,379 Speaker 1: is a bit further from Tokyo. 498 00:21:41,609 --> 00:21:41,728 Speaker 1: I 499 00:21:42,689 --> 00:21:46,599 Speaker 1: but I had to choose another location because I feel 500 00:21:46,609 --> 00:21:49,270 Speaker 1: like she will be exhausted. And then there are so 501 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:51,650 Speaker 1: many factors to think about and to please everyone is 502 00:21:51,660 --> 00:21:54,719 Speaker 1: so tiring. You know, sometimes I see my friends like 503 00:21:54,729 --> 00:21:55,369 Speaker 1: our age, right? 504 00:21:55,630 --> 00:21:58,510 Speaker 1: Then the parents then to me like I cannot, 505 00:21:59,319 --> 00:22:01,448 Speaker 2: right? Like how are you? I know the things you say, 506 00:22:01,459 --> 00:22:03,510 Speaker 2: I know what you're like, the fact that you are 507 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:05,890 Speaker 2: someone's role model and whole world is crazy. 508 00:22:06,550 --> 00:22:09,170 Speaker 1: Like you were clubbing seven years ago or like you 509 00:22:09,180 --> 00:22:13,140 Speaker 1: like a bit like unhinged then you like parents. 510 00:22:13,479 --> 00:22:15,979 Speaker 2: But some people are different as parents. It's very 511 00:22:15,989 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 2: funny. 512 00:22:16,530 --> 00:22:19,250 Speaker 1: And I think the hard thing is that no child 513 00:22:19,260 --> 00:22:22,069 Speaker 1: is the same. So you cannot follow a book, but 514 00:22:22,079 --> 00:22:24,750 Speaker 1: no one is able to teach you how to raise 515 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:28,688 Speaker 1: a child in the way you want them to turn out. Actually, 516 00:22:28,699 --> 00:22:30,709 Speaker 1: for you. What's the hardest part of adulting so far? 517 00:22:31,079 --> 00:22:34,010 Speaker 1: There's just 24 hours in the day. Too many things 518 00:22:34,020 --> 00:22:37,579 Speaker 1: to do. Too many responsibilities, too many things to do. 519 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:41,020 Speaker 1: The moment you start o then you neglect your friends 520 00:22:41,300 --> 00:22:43,410 Speaker 1: and then let's just say you put your friends first 521 00:22:43,420 --> 00:22:45,698 Speaker 1: and you neglect your family now that you mentioned it 522 00:22:45,709 --> 00:22:48,260 Speaker 1: where I'm trying to think back to, when was the 523 00:22:48,270 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 1: last time? Right. I felt like 524 00:22:50,339 --> 00:22:52,339 Speaker 1: I'm done. I have nothing to do. This is probably 525 00:22:52,349 --> 00:22:57,319 Speaker 1: like secondary school ns No, you probably had nothing to do. 526 00:22:57,329 --> 00:23:00,500 Speaker 1: But then I feel like your brain, right? Feels like 527 00:23:00,510 --> 00:23:03,010 Speaker 1: you need to do something else. For example, if you're 528 00:23:03,020 --> 00:23:05,500 Speaker 1: done with work, you probably want to go exercise. Right. Yeah. 529 00:23:05,989 --> 00:23:09,219 Speaker 1: Because to you it's like you need to be productive. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 530 00:23:09,229 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 1: But actually you can, don't do anything. 531 00:23:11,079 --> 00:23:13,099 Speaker 1: You can. It's your choice. I think the thing I 532 00:23:13,109 --> 00:23:18,010 Speaker 1: struggle with the most is my mortality you want. So 533 00:23:18,020 --> 00:23:20,530 Speaker 1: it's actually related to that like where I realized that 534 00:23:20,540 --> 00:23:22,599 Speaker 1: I there's this issue with my health that I need 535 00:23:22,609 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 1: to be more mindful of, I need to be more 536 00:23:24,770 --> 00:23:26,500 Speaker 1: mindful of why I eat and things like that. 537 00:23:26,930 --> 00:23:29,449 Speaker 1: So like I think two years ago went for health checkup. 538 00:23:29,459 --> 00:23:32,589 Speaker 1: Then my cholesterol quite high. My dad also got high cholesterol. 539 00:23:32,599 --> 00:23:36,979 Speaker 1: He's my grandfather's got higher. So it's like genetic, you know, 540 00:23:36,989 --> 00:23:40,390 Speaker 1: so then like I need to like actually think about this. 541 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:40,839 Speaker 1: I think 542 00:23:40,849 --> 00:23:43,949 Speaker 2: adulting is so different now, like so different. We cannot 543 00:23:43,959 --> 00:23:47,709 Speaker 2: compare to the models that we have seen 544 00:23:48,050 --> 00:23:49,979 Speaker 2: and then it's even harder, right? Because now we can't 545 00:23:49,989 --> 00:23:53,089 Speaker 2: really reference, reference what like to our parents, like how 546 00:23:53,099 --> 00:23:56,339 Speaker 2: they went through their adulthood. We can't really follow, 547 00:23:56,349 --> 00:23:58,310 Speaker 1: we're setting our new rules. Yeah, 548 00:23:58,319 --> 00:23:58,938 Speaker 2: that's 549 00:23:58,949 --> 00:23:59,130 Speaker 1: kind 550 00:23:59,140 --> 00:23:59,869 Speaker 2: of exciting. 551 00:23:59,969 --> 00:24:02,430 Speaker 1: I think it's fun and exciting and like we get 552 00:24:02,439 --> 00:24:05,060 Speaker 1: to plan our own future. 553 00:24:06,290 --> 00:24:09,050 Speaker 1: But at the same time, do you think that we 554 00:24:09,060 --> 00:24:13,400 Speaker 1: also are a generation that complains a lot, 555 00:24:14,300 --> 00:24:17,949 Speaker 1: the complaints about our privilege that we got hobbies, we 556 00:24:17,959 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 1: got traveling to do, we got friends. 557 00:24:20,250 --> 00:24:22,899 Speaker 2: I know it's very cringe, but I always like to 558 00:24:22,910 --> 00:24:25,880 Speaker 2: remind myself I get to do these things like you 559 00:24:25,890 --> 00:24:28,910 Speaker 2: don't have to, you can, don't do. But if you 560 00:24:29,270 --> 00:24:30,079 Speaker 2: don't want to live in the 561 00:24:30,165 --> 00:24:33,935 Speaker 2: consequences, so you choose to do it this way for 562 00:24:33,944 --> 00:24:36,155 Speaker 2: the ease of your life. So technically, we get to 563 00:24:36,165 --> 00:24:36,935 Speaker 2: live life this 564 00:24:36,944 --> 00:24:37,415 Speaker 2: way. 565 00:24:37,425 --> 00:24:40,104 Speaker 1: What is one thing that you enjoy most about adulting 566 00:24:40,155 --> 00:24:42,614 Speaker 1: aside from the money? No, I think it's just like 567 00:24:42,625 --> 00:24:44,714 Speaker 1: the freedom to make decisions. I thought about this in 568 00:24:44,724 --> 00:24:47,854 Speaker 1: another episode before where it's like last time, right? When 569 00:24:47,964 --> 00:24:49,104 Speaker 1: I go and ask permission, 570 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:53,139 Speaker 1: there's a blocker not just like I cannot ever sneakily 571 00:24:53,150 --> 00:24:55,708 Speaker 1: go and yes, I got the money. But now it's 572 00:24:55,719 --> 00:24:56,010 Speaker 1: like 573 00:24:56,790 --> 00:24:58,640 Speaker 1: if I want to eat ice cream, I will go 574 00:24:58,650 --> 00:25:00,599 Speaker 1: and buy ice cream and ice cream. Yeah, if I 575 00:25:00,609 --> 00:25:02,829 Speaker 1: want to shower at 3 a.m. no one's gonna stop 576 00:25:02,839 --> 00:25:05,530 Speaker 1: me last time. My mother and my father say showering 577 00:25:05,540 --> 00:25:06,500 Speaker 1: after midnight. Not good. 578 00:25:06,510 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 2: I 579 00:25:06,569 --> 00:25:08,449 Speaker 2: genuinely think it is the 580 00:25:09,079 --> 00:25:12,438 Speaker 2: agency to choose. Like now I feel like I can 581 00:25:12,449 --> 00:25:14,729 Speaker 2: make decisions and no one is gonna second guess it. 582 00:25:14,819 --> 00:25:17,500 Speaker 2: When I was younger, there were some decisions you can 583 00:25:17,510 --> 00:25:21,458 Speaker 2: make but then you will get questioned like you will 584 00:25:21,469 --> 00:25:25,109 Speaker 2: have people chiming in as a teen maybe. But now 585 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,060 Speaker 2: it is really like you're an adult, you full 586 00:25:27,069 --> 00:25:27,599 Speaker 2: fledged adult. 587 00:25:27,609 --> 00:25:29,099 Speaker 1: I feel like now when I have 588 00:25:29,189 --> 00:25:30,969 Speaker 1: family gatherings, right, then I talk to my aunties and 589 00:25:30,979 --> 00:25:34,060 Speaker 1: my uncles, they talk to me and respect me like 590 00:25:34,069 --> 00:25:36,698 Speaker 1: an adult. Yeah, they don't talk down to you anymore. 591 00:25:36,709 --> 00:25:37,609 Speaker 2: Also 592 00:25:37,619 --> 00:25:42,290 Speaker 2: when you have a contradicting statement to make, they don't 593 00:25:42,300 --> 00:25:45,989 Speaker 2: treat it as you being rude anymore. They almost are like, 594 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,569 Speaker 2: oh true, LA, ok, LA, whatever makes you happy where 595 00:25:48,729 --> 00:25:49,209 Speaker 2: time is like 596 00:25:49,569 --> 00:25:51,459 Speaker 2: it's very rude to talk back. Like that's how, you know, 597 00:25:51,469 --> 00:25:53,250 Speaker 2: you want the argument but then they still want to 598 00:25:53,260 --> 00:25:55,780 Speaker 2: say things like that. Right? Obviously there are moments where 599 00:25:55,790 --> 00:25:59,219 Speaker 2: I'm like, man, this is really tiring, but I'm so 600 00:25:59,229 --> 00:26:01,819 Speaker 2: happy to be an adult. I'm so happy to be 601 00:26:01,829 --> 00:26:04,500 Speaker 2: where I am with the people that I'm experiencing adulthood 602 00:26:04,510 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 2: with the way we are doing it. 603 00:26:06,050 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 1: I don't want 604 00:26:06,530 --> 00:26:09,989 Speaker 1: to say that the friends that you have at this point, right? 605 00:26:10,239 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 1: Are your, 606 00:26:11,939 --> 00:26:13,109 Speaker 1: are your forever friends? I 607 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:13,880 Speaker 2: think they are the 608 00:26:13,890 --> 00:26:18,140 Speaker 2: friends that you will take with you until you die. 609 00:26:18,150 --> 00:26:18,369 Speaker 1: Yeah. 610 00:26:18,530 --> 00:26:20,890 Speaker 2: Do you agree that he like 611 00:26:22,989 --> 00:26:24,060 Speaker 1: friends quite important 612 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,938 Speaker 1: because I don't plan to have Children? So, oh my God. Yeah, 613 00:26:28,949 --> 00:26:30,500 Speaker 1: I need to make more friends Yeah. 614 00:26:30,510 --> 00:26:33,819 Speaker 2: So I think we can all agree. Adulting is really tough, 615 00:26:34,060 --> 00:26:36,540 Speaker 2: but I don't think anyone has it all figured out, 616 00:26:36,550 --> 00:26:39,409 Speaker 2: even if it looks like it, we are all just 617 00:26:39,420 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 2: figuring it out as we go. So, if you're struggling 618 00:26:42,010 --> 00:26:45,599 Speaker 2: with adulting know that you're not alone, even Nick struggles too, 619 00:26:45,739 --> 00:26:46,649 Speaker 1: he just doesn't 620 00:26:46,660 --> 00:26:47,819 Speaker 1: show it pretend. 621 00:26:48,069 --> 00:26:48,899 Speaker 2: Yeah. Everyday 622 00:26:48,910 --> 00:26:50,219 Speaker 1: knee pain, back pain. 623 00:26:51,689 --> 00:26:53,670 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for watching this episode of the Hot Pot. 624 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,020 Speaker 1: You can listen to us on Spotify Apple podcast and 625 00:26:56,030 --> 00:26:56,640 Speaker 1: me listen 626 00:26:56,650 --> 00:26:58,670 Speaker 2: and subscribe to us if you haven't already 627 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:00,589 Speaker 1: and let us know as well down in the comments, 628 00:27:00,599 --> 00:27:04,030 Speaker 1: you adulting woes. Also, if we missed anything out 629 00:27:04,380 --> 00:27:08,929 Speaker 1: and we will see you on the next episode. Bye. Ok. Wait, wait, 630 00:27:09,239 --> 00:27:10,359 Speaker 1: your stupid. And 631 00:27:11,130 --> 00:27:13,270 Speaker 2: when you young at time the ends comment that 632 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:16,229 Speaker 1: I did, right? I got here. Just one 633 00:27:16,430 --> 00:27:19,030 Speaker 2: small, medium big. The size all got different taste on. 634 00:27:19,089 --> 00:27:20,780 Speaker 2: That's why for school bus, I always find a rock 635 00:27:21,510 --> 00:27:21,540 Speaker 1: man. 636 00:27:22,420 --> 00:27:24,920 Speaker 1: I got a tissue paper before I got 637 00:27:25,709 --> 00:27:27,359 Speaker 2: news paper paper all different days. 638 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 1: No. Last time the game that I used to play 639 00:27:29,050 --> 00:27:32,180 Speaker 1: in secondary school with my boys, right? Was we throw 640 00:27:32,189 --> 00:27:35,099 Speaker 1: tissue paper at each other's pocket, right? If I manage 641 00:27:35,109 --> 00:27:36,229 Speaker 1: to throw in your pocket, you must eat.