Speaker 1: Hey, what's up with Sonia here with you. Welcome to
Speaker 1: another episode of Men explain. It's gonna be a really
Speaker 1: exciting topic here. Today. We're talking about friendships and marriage.
Speaker 1: I know it's gonna be a juicy one.
Speaker 1: Today, I have a very special guest here with me
Speaker 1: because the last time we met we were both hot
Speaker 1: and sweaty. It's Jason Godfrey,
Speaker 2: That's right. Super hot and sweaty. It was disgusting. I'm
Speaker 2: Jason Godfrey. I'm an actor and writer.
Speaker 1: So Jason today we're talking about friendships,
Speaker 1: marriage, all of which, you know, we've experienced. You've experienced
Speaker 1: especially
Speaker 2: I have I am married and I have had friends
Speaker 2: in my life. Great
Speaker 1: to know. I thought we were your only friends here.
Speaker 2: I thought so too. Actually,
Speaker 1: something so good. So do fill us in. When did
Speaker 1: you meet your wife And when did you get married?
Speaker 1: It was quite recent. Right.
Speaker 2: Yeah. We got married quite recently. We've been together for
Speaker 2: a long time. So we were together for I think
Speaker 2: eight years before.
Speaker 2: I hope my wife doesn't watch this. But I get
Speaker 2: these numbers wrong.
Speaker 1: She's definitely gonna
Speaker 2: watch it. Don't watch it. Turn it off. Going to
Speaker 2: watch it. You know, we were together like I think
Speaker 2: eight years before we got married, we had the big
Speaker 2: marriage right before. Right before, but about six months before
Speaker 2: Covid went back to her home country of Romania and
Speaker 2: got married Communist style. Because that's what you do.
Speaker 1: Okay, so on that note, what do you think is
Speaker 1: the main difference between a bond that friends have a
Speaker 1: bond that you share with your partner? I
Speaker 2: think you have less sex with your friends
Speaker 2: or none at all
Speaker 1: preference. Sometimes
Speaker 2: not for your partner, more times you have sex with
Speaker 2: your partner. I think that's a different. That's great. That's
Speaker 2: that's
Speaker 1: the difference. I really hope that your wife isn't tuning
Speaker 1: in right now. That's that's a good one too.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes. Don't have sex with your friends.
Speaker 1: Cut this one out and send it
Speaker 2: to her. Okay, see there you go, baby.
Speaker 2: I don't know. What what do you what do you think?
Speaker 1: Um You know, my friends have been there for me
Speaker 1: through all kinds of like shitty relationships, breakups. They've seen
Speaker 1: me through the worst shit ever there. My lifetime partners
Speaker 1: in a way, you know? Yeah, that's how I feel
Speaker 1: about my girlfriends at least.
Speaker 2: Right. Right. So that's than any guy that you date
Speaker 2: is immediately like behind the eight ball, because you've got
Speaker 2: so much experience with these
Speaker 2: girlfriend is probably much loyalty. These girlfriends that like, the
Speaker 2: guy can't really, it's going to take time for the
Speaker 2: guy to displace that this
Speaker 1: is actually interesting that you bring it up because it
Speaker 1: was one of the important lessons that I learned from
Speaker 1: one of my ex relationships as well. It's so important
Speaker 1: that your partner
Speaker 1: assimilates with your friends. Do you guys all hang out?
Speaker 2: Especially in your case, like, so with me, you know,
Speaker 2: I have a close group of friends in university and
Speaker 2: then I left the country right? So I still have
Speaker 2: my friends but my wife and I she doesn't, you
Speaker 2: know my friends in Canada so it's less about her
Speaker 2: like them assimilating now with my wife because now our
Speaker 2: friends here are kind of our friends, right? So I
Speaker 2: don't really have that issue. Do
Speaker 1: you miss having your support system like your friends to
Speaker 1: share like these life experiences with? Because
Speaker 1: for me, I don't know if it's a girl guy thing,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure this is why it's men explained right?
Speaker 1: Because we want to know from the men what's the
Speaker 1: big difference for me and my girlfriends? We want to
Speaker 1: share like big experiences in life together. We move in
Speaker 1: through different phases of life and we try and try
Speaker 1: our best to spend it together and share that. Do
Speaker 1: you miss having that support system?
Speaker 2: I don't miss it because I
Speaker 2: I've never experienced it right? Because it's been so long now,
Speaker 2: I've been gone for 20 years. But to tell the
Speaker 2: truth when I see singaporeans and I see like in
Speaker 2: their social media feeds like my friend will be like
Speaker 2: me and my boys from whatever high school and they're
Speaker 2: still hanging out right, you know most important just say
Speaker 2: in Singapore. So your your friendship network doesn't move doesn't
Speaker 2: go so you guys are all here. So actually it's
Speaker 2: really nice because you guys are all like you're talking
Speaker 2: about all your girlfriends from years ago. Yeah, and you're
Speaker 2: all still together. Like actually I see that I'm like, wow,
Speaker 2: I'm jealous. Like that's really cool that you guys are
Speaker 2: all still like good friends and you're watching each other
Speaker 2: get older and get married and have kids and you're
Speaker 2: still part of each other's lives, like, like a meaningful
Speaker 2: part of each other's lives
Speaker 1: for sure. And sometimes when my girlfriends and I go
Speaker 1: out and we see like moms with babies and stuff
Speaker 1: and they're enjoying wine and stuff were like, yeah, that's
Speaker 1: us and we're like, we better do that together in
Speaker 1: like a few years and you will
Speaker 2: you're absolutely right
Speaker 1: for like a bottle of champagne or something
Speaker 2: responsibly. Of course, like my wife when she was pregnant,
Speaker 2: she bonded with some people from like a prenatal class
Speaker 2: or whatever. But I mean how much, how much better
Speaker 2: would that be if that was you and your friends
Speaker 2: like could be cooler right? And I know from my
Speaker 2: wife she'd rather have done that with their childhood friends
Speaker 2: or something, but you know, that wasn't
Speaker 2: we're not we're not there right? But you could do
Speaker 1: that, but she definitely misses her group of friends in
Speaker 1: her
Speaker 2: social status, but she's the same as me. We traveled
Speaker 2: for a long time. So you know, the old group
Speaker 2: of friends is like now they're like you're
Speaker 2: messenger friends, you just text him every once in a while.
Speaker 1: So when she needs to be about you? She bitches
Speaker 1: to her to me usually about you two.
Speaker 2: You Yeah. Which I've told her maybe don't ditch to
Speaker 2: me about me,
Speaker 1: right? Because she has no one else to
Speaker 2: beach to beach to the beach to the baby, he
Speaker 2: doesn't understand english,
Speaker 1: absorb everything. Oh
Speaker 2: no he will observe everything. Oh my
Speaker 1: gosh, daddy asshole, daddy asshole. Gosh, is he saying that now?
Speaker 2: He will, he will and if he does, I know
Speaker 2: where he got it from A few weeks. You got
Speaker 2: it from my wife, you know
Speaker 1: on that note as well, do you necessarily think like
Speaker 1: your soul mate has to be the person that you're
Speaker 1: in a romantic relationship
Speaker 2: with and I think the soulmate thing happens with your
Speaker 2: partner because you tend to spend more time, right? And
Speaker 2: they they see you all the time, right? So they
Speaker 2: know who you are and I guess you you either
Speaker 2: hate each other and kill each other or you become
Speaker 2: soul mates and you're like,
Speaker 2: you know this is my soulmate. Now
Speaker 1: I personally don't feel like there is
Speaker 1: an ideal way of thinking of
Speaker 2: the one soul mate. You never you never believe in
Speaker 2: a soul mate. I feel like I feel like you
Speaker 2: believe in a soul mate when I
Speaker 1: got together my first boyfriend, I thought he was the
Speaker 1: one I got together my second, I thought he was
Speaker 1: the one, the third one. I thought he was the
Speaker 1: one to the first one is the one, so, but
Speaker 1: but what,
Speaker 2: what should you think? Like, shouldn't you be thinking that? Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like you should be thinking that otherwise,
Speaker 2: why you're dating people?
Speaker 1: I would shift it, shift the perspective too. I can
Speaker 1: see myself spending my life with this person. I don't
Speaker 1: know whether this person is my forever soul mate. I
Speaker 1: feel like different phases in your life, the, you know,
Speaker 1: the definition of a soulmate or what you look for
Speaker 1: in a soul mate or partner changes along the way. Anyway,
Speaker 1: okay, so we're talking about soul mates and friends and
Speaker 1: lovers and all that.
Speaker 1: Have you ever watched Sex in the City before? Yes,
Speaker 2: you have actually really enjoyed the show. You do
Speaker 1: God, who's your favorite character?
Speaker 2: Samantha's cliche to say carry, no, no, no, no, you don't.
Speaker 2: Maybe charlotte
Speaker 1: charlotte interesting choice. Okay,
Speaker 2: because I think because she was cute, so, I think
Speaker 2: I was like, that's why when you
Speaker 1: watch the show was it because of a partner, Of course.
Speaker 2: Okay, that was my my ex girlfriend, we used to
Speaker 2: watch it and I was like, ah Sex in the
Speaker 2: City with these
Speaker 2: four ladies and there's no sex or there is, but
Speaker 2: when you mean when it came out, I was young,
Speaker 2: I was like, I want to see the more Sex
Speaker 2: in the City, There's very little Sex in the City. Yeah.
Speaker 2: More City than sex. And I'm like,
Speaker 2: but then I was watching it and like, you know, begrudgingly.
Speaker 2: I'm like, that's kind of funny.
Speaker 1: I'm honestly pretty surprised that you watched the series. Pleasantly surprised.
Speaker 1: I think every guy should watch it. My boyfriend just
Speaker 1: won't watch it with me. Really? Why not?
Speaker 1: I don't know. He's just like, oh man, it's a
Speaker 1: lot of girls talking and I just can't deal with it.
Speaker 1: Just like, yeah, that was really fun. Yeah, I think
Speaker 2: the old episodes hold up pretty well. Yeah, they really do.
Speaker 1: They really do. So I'm excited for the new chapter
Speaker 1: it's called. And just like that on HBO go. So
Speaker 1: we're really excited for that. Stay tuned because we have
Speaker 1: a little surprise for you
Speaker 1: coming up at the end of the episode.
Speaker 1: So Jason, even though your friends are not physically here
Speaker 1: in Singapore, the ones that you grew up with and
Speaker 1: all that, can you share an example with us of
Speaker 1: how they helped you get through like a difficult time
Speaker 1: if any off the top of your head, can you
Speaker 1: think of any,
Speaker 2: you know, I had a bad breakup, my, my best friend,
Speaker 2: I was like, do do you you free? And he
Speaker 2: flew out to Hong kong and then we went to,
Speaker 2: went to Thailand together and
Speaker 2: and I was just nice to have him around and like,
Speaker 2: so that was nice of him.
Speaker 2: Um Yeah, I had another friend one time when I
Speaker 2: was
Speaker 2: and university I I cut my finger
Speaker 2: cleaning a wine glass. The thing just popped and so
Speaker 2: then I pulled my hand out of the, out of
Speaker 2: the sink. All this blood sprayed on the wall and
Speaker 2: so I rushed to the hospital to get stitches right
Speaker 2: and when I came back my friend like cleaned up
Speaker 2: all the blood and he was sitting in the chair
Speaker 2: and I came
Speaker 1: back here
Speaker 2: is everything okay?
Speaker 2: And I said yeah yeah
Speaker 2: I just cut myself because oh
Speaker 2: I thought you killed somebody so I cleaned up all
Speaker 2: the cleaned up all the blood is still expected you
Speaker 1: know that this is a
Speaker 2: friend and I know yeah except when you got together
Speaker 2: with my ex girlfriends. Oh God what a plot twist.
Speaker 2: You didn't I didn't see
Speaker 1: that one coming. Neither did I. Oh my God you
Speaker 1: guys still friends. No. Oh
Speaker 1: but he cleaned up your blood. I know he would
Speaker 1: have cleaned up a murder scene.
Speaker 2: Well he cleaned up my ex. Oh
Speaker 1: my gosh I am there wow that is a plot twist,
Speaker 2: plot twist. There you go.
Speaker 1: I've never really I am shocked because you know he
Speaker 1: was so calm about this
Speaker 2: whole story. Yeah he was like I was calm. You
Speaker 2: will calm. I
Speaker 1: really didn't care. He sprayed blood all over my wall
Speaker 1: and then my friend cleaning up and by the way
Speaker 1: he also slept with my ex
Speaker 2: and I don't mean to be fair at that point
Speaker 2: I didn't care.
Speaker 1: So. Yeah. I mean you already access and are they
Speaker 1: still together? I think I think he got married
Speaker 2: had a kid. They got
Speaker 2: yeah.
Speaker 1: Damn. That's a great story man. Is it a great story?
Speaker 1: Doesn't seem like a great hindsight in hindsight. Maybe
Speaker 2: it's a great story for
Speaker 1: you. What a story.
Speaker 2: Rather entertaining. What a happy story at that time. I'll
Speaker 2: admit that that friend of yours but with your ex
Speaker 2: and had Children, wow.
Speaker 1: But I mean he didn't, she wasn't cheating on you with.
Speaker 1: It
Speaker 2: sounds worse than it is. So you're not old enough
Speaker 2: for maybe maybe once you get a little older than
Speaker 2: one of your exes will have gotten with
Speaker 2: somebody you know and then have Children.
Speaker 1: Most of my XS are older than me. So that's
Speaker 1: why they you know also went into the whole marriage
Speaker 1: thing faster. I guess they just saw everything they didn't
Speaker 1: want and settle down quickly with the next person that
Speaker 1: they saw no friends guys. Not at all. We still
Speaker 1: remain cordial for most of it. But you know my friends,
Speaker 1: especially my girlfriend's they've been through all kinds of ship
Speaker 1: with me man. Like I think they've seen me like
Speaker 1: at my worst. You know whether or not it's relationship
Speaker 1: troubles or just shift. I got myself into
Speaker 2: what's your worst? Like what's the specific
Speaker 1: okay so I had I'm not gonna yeah I hope
Speaker 1: he's not watching. So one of my, okay, then it's
Speaker 1: my first boyfriend.
Speaker 2: Say it.
Speaker 1: The first guy that I ever dated okay, was in
Speaker 1: school and I was like, oh man, like, you know,
Speaker 1: I really think that this is it, you know, as
Speaker 1: we always do.
Speaker 1: So we broke up unfortunately when I was still in
Speaker 1: taking my diploma at the time and then he carried
Speaker 1: on to date several other girls, but we kind of
Speaker 1: reappeared in each other's lives along the way.
Speaker 1: So then he goes, you know, I think this time like,
Speaker 1: I really wanted to work between us and I was like,
Speaker 1: I was so happy at the time, wasn't dating anyone.
Speaker 1: I told my mom about it actually. I was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, mom, like we're really close. So I
Speaker 1: told her like, oh my god, remember this guy, like
Speaker 1: he's kind of interested to get back and you know,
Speaker 1: I think I'm interested to like we just met for
Speaker 1: dinner and it went really well
Speaker 1: and stuff and obviously I didn't tell her that we
Speaker 1: made out and stuff on, you know, catch up dinner.
Speaker 1: You don't you don't tell him, but now she's going
Speaker 1: to find out. So then basically I was so excited
Speaker 1: about it. I was like, oh my God, you know, like, yes,
Speaker 1: this is my chance gonna go for it, right? So
Speaker 1: he goes, I have to sort some personal things out
Speaker 1: because he was still dating someone at the
Speaker 2: time,
Speaker 1: and I was like, okay, I didn't tell you that
Speaker 1: he didn't tell me. They
Speaker 2: didn't tell you that as part of his pitch, like, hey, listen,
Speaker 2: I really think we can make this work. No, I'm
Speaker 2: dating someone.
Speaker 1: Wait a second. I don't think so, because at the time,
Speaker 1: like we I mean he wasn't really on instagram or
Speaker 1: social media wasn't that bad at that point in
Speaker 2: time. I think he was he just didn't tell you.
Speaker 1: Yes. So basically what happened was, he said, just give
Speaker 1: me some time to work things out and then we'll
Speaker 1: work it out together. So I said, okay, I waited
Speaker 1: and waited for like a day, two days, you know,
Speaker 1: I gave him a week outside, I think to myself, okay,
Speaker 1: I'll give him a week. I think that's a fair
Speaker 1: time for you to sort your stuff out and then
Speaker 1: get back to me at least send me a text right?
Speaker 1: Um a week went by and like no sound from him.
Speaker 1: So I sent him like a WhatsApp and I was like, hey,
Speaker 1: what's going on man? Like you want to chat someday?
Speaker 1: No response. And I realized that he blocked me, like, yeah.
Speaker 1: And so, and I'm not even like a psychotic person, okay,
Speaker 1: like I'm not crazy, I don't act out. I called
Speaker 1: him and realized that I was blocked off to Yeah.
Speaker 1: And so I was like, what the heck is going
Speaker 1: on right
Speaker 2: ex girlfriend find your number or something. So
Speaker 1: I'm getting there. I'm getting there.
Speaker 1: I managed to send him an S. M. S. Okay?
Speaker 1: Nobody sent sms already at
Speaker 2: that's for old people. I'll tell you
Speaker 1: that you're an S. M. S. Aren't you?
Speaker 2: I sent for this morning.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 1: Anyway um Sms him.
Speaker 1: He finally replied after a few days, he said hey
Speaker 1: I did some thinking
Speaker 1: and unfortunately I'm going to stick it out with this
Speaker 1: girl that I what are you telling
Speaker 2: you? At least he
Speaker 1: didn't even know he could have
Speaker 2: just the boss would be like, hey listen, you know
Speaker 2: it's great the other night
Speaker 1: but not crazy. Okay so so then I was so disappointed.
Speaker 1: I think that was the most distraught I've ever been.
Speaker 1: Like any sort of relationship breakup situation,
Speaker 2: whatever it is you should be because that guy was
Speaker 2: a dick. He's a dick for saying coming up to
Speaker 2: you and say let's go to dinner, we can work
Speaker 2: this out, I have a girlfriend. Yeah and then he's
Speaker 2: another he's a dick for for not just telling you
Speaker 2: he could have taken a couple of days,
Speaker 1: count how many times Jason said dick, you win a price.
Speaker 1: But yeah that was the most distraught I've ever been.
Speaker 1: So they've seen me through that I was bawling every day.
Speaker 1: Didn't eat much like for like two weeks almost they
Speaker 1: came around to my place pretty often at the time.
Speaker 1: I think they had to coordinate with like my folks
Speaker 1: because I was still living with them at the time
Speaker 1: and they had to coordinate, come down, make sure I
Speaker 1: was okay and you know, not doing crazy things like
Speaker 1: calling him 60 times or stuff like that.
Speaker 2: That guy is playing with you. He's like, did your friends?
Speaker 2: So did you like get revenge with your friends? Like
Speaker 2: because the sex and the city girls would have gotten revenge.
Speaker 2: They probably would have, it would have, it would have
Speaker 2: been sophisticated. They wouldn't like hit him or something. They
Speaker 2: would like, they would like wreck his, his like his
Speaker 2: book contract or something or like
Speaker 1: spike his drink with like laxatives. So during the pandemic,
Speaker 1: you obviously spent extra amount of time with your wife.
Speaker 1: You guys already live together. But did you guys learn
Speaker 1: anything new about each other over the pandemic?
Speaker 2: We learned we're this close to killing each other. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Because I think the lockdown period was when our son
Speaker 2: was born. So I think combined being a new parent,
Speaker 2: which is, I'll be straight. I love my boy. He's awesome.
Speaker 2: But when you first have a kid, I think for parent,
Speaker 2: I think her dad's might be different. I think, I
Speaker 2: think mothers instantly bond for like, but like honestly like
Speaker 2: you have a kid and you're like,
Speaker 2: it's the best thing that ever happened to me. No,
Speaker 2: it's not.
Speaker 2: It's like a fucking train just like ran into your
Speaker 2: house and destroyed your life because now you're like, I
Speaker 2: only sleep five hours at a time. Like we like,
Speaker 2: you know, you're on six hour shifts the whole time. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So it's a big shock to the system. And especially,
Speaker 2: I think, I think my theory is that people who
Speaker 2: live like us artists,
Speaker 2: No, but people who people who don't have any responsibility.
Speaker 2: Like not not you don't have any responsibility but you're
Speaker 2: not working 9-5. Right? Right. Yeah. Yeah. And the thing
Speaker 2: is you're used to this kind of life, right? Like
Speaker 2: I'm used to that kind of life. So now suddenly
Speaker 2: like this thing, this little crying meatball is like
Speaker 1: demanding you need
Speaker 2: to take care of me and there's no way. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I'm like that's the least of it. I'll clean your
Speaker 2: poop but just sleep. Please go to bed. Yeah. So
Speaker 2: I think, I think when that was happening for Covid,
Speaker 2: we were all locked down. So like, we're never leaving.
Speaker 2: So my entire first lockdown was like, it was just
Speaker 2: two months that bled into each other where like, I
Speaker 2: don't even know what day it was anymore because it's
Speaker 2: just
Speaker 1: and you didn't keep in contact with like your friends
Speaker 1: via zoom or whatever
Speaker 2: we did actually did actually a little bit. Yeah, but
Speaker 2: there was just wasn't that much time.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I was gonna say about the pandemic, which
Speaker 2: was nice, was that because I've been away from my
Speaker 2: friends for a long time, but for some reason the pandemic,
Speaker 2: it really made me,
Speaker 2: I want to contact people more and I think zoom
Speaker 2: became more of a way to do it. So then
Speaker 2: you're like a little zoom chat, right? And then, you know,
Speaker 2: I started having like beers with my buddy, like virtual
Speaker 2: dream virtual drinks and hanging out like we didn't do
Speaker 2: it before. Right? Exactly. How about yourself?
Speaker 1: What would you do? My core group of friends that
Speaker 1: I grew up with like in my more teenage years,
Speaker 1: they are living in like various places, Japan,
Speaker 1: New Zealand Mexico like all over the world. So we've
Speaker 1: got all these different time zones, but at least once
Speaker 1: a month we try to get on a zoom call,
Speaker 1: do virtual drinks together and I want to give a
Speaker 1: big shout out to my friend Natasha as well. She
Speaker 1: is moving permanently to New Zealand with her partner with
Speaker 1: her boyfriend because he's from, he's from there and she's
Speaker 1: had like
Speaker 1: a tough time adjusting because you got no friends, there
Speaker 1: was no one there, You don't even know where to
Speaker 2: begin and depending where she lives, she might be like
Speaker 2: in a totally like there's nothing around like Singapore is
Speaker 2: very different than living in a
Speaker 1: cosmopolitan here, right? Which is also Carrie Bradshaw's favorite drink.
Speaker 1: So she has been, you know, depending a lot on
Speaker 1: these zoom calls and virtual drinks just for your sanity
Speaker 1: just to make sure I don't forget who I am
Speaker 1: or like my friends who are back home and she
Speaker 1: knows that whatever happens whether or not new Zealand is
Speaker 1: going to be her. You know, her ending points
Speaker 1: whether she's going to live there forever, she will still
Speaker 1: have us to guide her along or just make her
Speaker 1: feel better.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. It's a good catalyst for you guys because
Speaker 2: it gets you guys to get together. It gives you
Speaker 2: an excuse to be like, oh we have to help her.
Speaker 2: So
Speaker 1: let's fly to new Zealand now. That's also let's travel
Speaker 1: now on the topic of that as well. You know,
Speaker 1: you still learn new things about your partner every day
Speaker 1: even though you've known each other for so many years.
Speaker 2: Yes, you do. You learn a lot of them are
Speaker 2: bad
Speaker 2: ship, but I'm sure she learned a lot of bad
Speaker 2: things about me to
Speaker 1: what is one thing that she hates about you,
Speaker 2: my footsteps, my breathing mostly everything that I do, right? Yeah.
Speaker 2: That's just how marriages you'll you'll understand once you get
Speaker 2: there really?
Speaker 1: I don't know, I feel like so many people sound
Speaker 1: so jaded sometimes when they talk about marriage. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know why why?
Speaker 2: Because it's hard to
Speaker 1: know.
Speaker 1: I mean please give us some advice to those of
Speaker 1: us who are in relationships, hoping to get married, I
Speaker 1: don't know anything, I
Speaker 2: need to know if you're gonna, if you're going to
Speaker 2: get married and have kids. I used to think that
Speaker 2: you know you should date for a long time and really,
Speaker 2: really be sure and I still think you should be
Speaker 2: a little sure, but I think that it's very important
Speaker 2: if you're going to get married, have kids, do it
Speaker 2: in the honeymoon period,
Speaker 2: you know that honeymoon period where all you want to
Speaker 2: do is just put their genitals on your face the
Speaker 2: whole time. Yeah, you need to do it in that
Speaker 2: period because then when you have the kids and you
Speaker 2: get married and all that stuff, you're still like, oh
Speaker 2: my God, honey baby. Yeah. Yeah. You're still in that mode.
Speaker 2: Milk
Speaker 1: that mode
Speaker 2: melt that.
Speaker 1: Yes. Yes,
Speaker 2: Yes. Because then once you get past that and then
Speaker 2: it becomes like, you know, a little bit less magical
Speaker 2: then having a kid is going to be very less magical.
Speaker 2: Sage advice. Yes, sage advice. Get married and have kids
Speaker 2: when you're in the honeymoon period when you're in Vegas? Yes. Well,
Speaker 2: I don't know about the Vegas part. Sure. Do it
Speaker 2: in Vegas. Okay,
Speaker 2: okay,
Speaker 1: thank you for your very lovely advice. I think it
Speaker 1: has not scared people off at all from the concept
Speaker 1: of marriage.
Speaker 2: People are scared of marriage already, people are getting married.
Speaker 2: That is true and global global birth rates are down
Speaker 2: because everyone is like, you know what too expensive to
Speaker 2: have Children.
Speaker 1: Know it's true, It's true. Do you think that's selfish
Speaker 1: or that's totally fine.
Speaker 2: I mean it's not fine for the human race because
Speaker 2: we're basically saying that we'd rather just watch netflix than
Speaker 2: raise our offspring in the future of the, of you know,
Speaker 2: of our, of our species. But
Speaker 2: I understand it from a financial point of view, from
Speaker 2: financial or just like a time point of view. Exactly.
Speaker 1: And what if you don't meet the person that you
Speaker 1: want to have kids with? You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Do you still have friends who are not married or
Speaker 1: still single?
Speaker 2: Only only freaks are not married and single when they
Speaker 2: get older
Speaker 2: at your age. I'm just joking. Of course I have friends.
Speaker 2: All my friends that I know that are there now,
Speaker 2: they call them that to their face. But you know
Speaker 2: obviously it's normal like if you don't, if you don't
Speaker 2: meet the right person or whatever or whatever, even if
Speaker 2: you just choose not to whatever.
Speaker 1: I mean sometimes it's difficult to meet the person that
Speaker 1: you want to spend the rest of your life with.
Speaker 1: Sometimes we go through things like divorce
Speaker 1: so many people, you know have certain troubles that you
Speaker 1: know just not widely publicized
Speaker 2: life is life is hard enough without trying to adhere
Speaker 2: to what everyone else is supposed to do. So just
Speaker 2: do whatever you need to do. Do you have
Speaker 1: friends who are also divorced on that note?
Speaker 2: Yes, Yeah, I do have a friend who got divorced. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it blew up terribly and they had like a beautiful
Speaker 2: marriage and we're so happy. They used to like, they
Speaker 2: used to like, we'd go over to their place for
Speaker 2: dinner and then they would start playing piano together. Oh
Speaker 2: my God, that's
Speaker 1: so sweet.
Speaker 2: Oh, okay.
Speaker 2: The divorce was like, I'm going to take you for everything,
Speaker 2: you're worth it and it went super, super bad. Do
Speaker 2: you have any divorced friends? This is a fun topic.
Speaker 1: Yes, Yes, Actually my current boyfriend is divorced. What's so? Yeah, yeah, he,
Speaker 1: he also has kids from his previous marriage, so it
Speaker 1: was a bit of a shock to me. I mean
Speaker 1: he's been on this show before and he's been very
Speaker 1: open about it, so it's all chill and and all,
Speaker 1: but I learned so much from him as well, like
Speaker 1: I never expected it. I mean, and I never saw
Speaker 1: like that there was an issue or there was a
Speaker 1: problem with with that and my family is also pretty
Speaker 1: open minded, they're like, okay, you know, sure, and in
Speaker 1: this day and age, I think, you know, you meet
Speaker 1: your person at different phases of your life, like I
Speaker 1: mentioned right, it may not have been the person that
Speaker 1: he was with, I'm not sure.
Speaker 1: Um but at the end of the day, I'm glad
Speaker 1: we kind of found each other and I learned a
Speaker 1: lot from his experiences that he shares with Me too.
Speaker 1: And I think being with somebody who's been through that
Speaker 1: motion and it's also much more mature than a lot
Speaker 1: of people around my age.
Speaker 1: I think that's helpful.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you should definitely listen to him. The
Speaker 2: other thing. You should, you should take that should make
Speaker 2: you feel good. Is that after he's gone through all
Speaker 2: this shit, he's chosen you right? He's seen a lot
Speaker 2: of flaws and he's like, no, Sonja's got what I want.
Speaker 1: And on that note, thank you so much for joining
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Speaker 1: we talked about so much. Like I think we caught up,
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Speaker 1: between your partners as well. And honestly, I think that
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Speaker 2: Yes, I will. Yeah, I really like the show. So yeah,
Speaker 2: I'll check it
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