WEBVTT - Are friends more important than lovers? 0:00:00.000 --> 0:00:01.730 Hey, what's up with Sonia here with you. Welcome to 0:00:01.730 --> 0:00:04.680 another episode of Men explain. It's gonna be a really 0:00:04.680 --> 0:00:09.889 exciting topic here. Today. We're talking about friendships and marriage. 0:00:09.900 --> 0:00:13.350 I know it's gonna be a juicy one. 0:00:18.340 --> 0:00:20.549 Today, I have a very special guest here with me 0:00:20.560 --> 0:00:22.860 because the last time we met we were both hot 0:00:22.860 --> 0:00:24.669 and sweaty. It's Jason Godfrey, 0:00:24.680 --> 0:00:27.900 That's right. Super hot and sweaty. It was disgusting. I'm 0:00:27.900 --> 0:00:29.680 Jason Godfrey. I'm an actor and writer. 0:00:29.690 --> 0:00:32.560 So Jason today we're talking about friendships, 0:00:32.640 --> 0:00:36.099 marriage, all of which, you know, we've experienced. You've experienced 0:00:36.100 --> 0:00:36.650 especially 0:00:36.659 --> 0:00:38.519 I have I am married and I have had friends 0:00:38.520 --> 0:00:39.490 in my life. Great 0:00:39.490 --> 0:00:41.850 to know. I thought we were your only friends here. 0:00:42.140 --> 0:00:43.150 I thought so too. Actually, 0:00:43.150 --> 0:00:46.330 something so good. So do fill us in. When did 0:00:46.330 --> 0:00:48.310 you meet your wife And when did you get married? 0:00:48.310 --> 0:00:49.240 It was quite recent. Right. 0:00:49.250 --> 0:00:51.690 Yeah. We got married quite recently. We've been together for 0:00:51.690 --> 0:00:54.660 a long time. So we were together for I think 0:00:54.670 --> 0:00:55.959 eight years before. 0:00:56.140 --> 0:00:57.570 I hope my wife doesn't watch this. But I get 0:00:57.570 --> 0:00:58.180 these numbers wrong. 0:00:58.190 --> 0:00:58.910 She's definitely gonna 0:00:58.910 --> 0:01:01.270 watch it. Don't watch it. Turn it off. Going to 0:01:01.270 --> 0:01:03.200 watch it. You know, we were together like I think 0:01:03.210 --> 0:01:05.530 eight years before we got married, we had the big 0:01:05.530 --> 0:01:08.009 marriage right before. Right before, but about six months before 0:01:08.010 --> 0:01:11.690 Covid went back to her home country of Romania and 0:01:11.690 --> 0:01:14.569 got married Communist style. Because that's what you do. 0:01:14.580 --> 0:01:16.890 Okay, so on that note, what do you think is 0:01:16.890 --> 0:01:19.890 the main difference between a bond that friends have a 0:01:19.890 --> 0:01:21.520 bond that you share with your partner? I 0:01:21.520 --> 0:01:23.050 think you have less sex with your friends 0:01:23.540 --> 0:01:24.500 or none at all 0:01:24.500 --> 0:01:25.410 preference. Sometimes 0:01:25.410 --> 0:01:29.320 not for your partner, more times you have sex with 0:01:29.319 --> 0:01:31.620 your partner. I think that's a different. That's great. That's 0:01:31.630 --> 0:01:31.810 that's 0:01:31.810 --> 0:01:33.960 the difference. I really hope that your wife isn't tuning 0:01:33.959 --> 0:01:36.500 in right now. That's that's a good one too. 0:01:36.680 --> 0:01:38.690 Yes, yes. Don't have sex with your friends. 0:01:38.700 --> 0:01:39.560 Cut this one out and send it 0:01:39.560 --> 0:01:41.920 to her. Okay, see there you go, baby. 0:01:42.440 --> 0:01:43.760 I don't know. What what do you what do you think? 0:01:44.040 --> 0:01:46.990 Um You know, my friends have been there for me 0:01:46.990 --> 0:01:50.590 through all kinds of like shitty relationships, breakups. They've seen 0:01:50.590 --> 0:01:53.920 me through the worst shit ever there. My lifetime partners 0:01:53.930 --> 0:01:55.910 in a way, you know? Yeah, that's how I feel 0:01:55.910 --> 0:01:57.540 about my girlfriends at least. 0:01:57.550 --> 0:02:00.730 Right. Right. So that's than any guy that you date 0:02:00.740 --> 0:02:03.960 is immediately like behind the eight ball, because you've got 0:02:04.240 --> 0:02:05.470 so much experience with these 0:02:05.740 --> 0:02:08.470 girlfriend is probably much loyalty. These girlfriends that like, the 0:02:08.470 --> 0:02:10.710 guy can't really, it's going to take time for the 0:02:10.710 --> 0:02:11.780 guy to displace that this 0:02:11.780 --> 0:02:13.400 is actually interesting that you bring it up because it 0:02:13.400 --> 0:02:15.680 was one of the important lessons that I learned from 0:02:15.680 --> 0:02:18.139 one of my ex relationships as well. It's so important 0:02:18.139 --> 0:02:19.260 that your partner 0:02:19.340 --> 0:02:22.170 assimilates with your friends. Do you guys all hang out? 0:02:22.180 --> 0:02:24.730 Especially in your case, like, so with me, you know, 0:02:24.730 --> 0:02:27.370 I have a close group of friends in university and 0:02:27.370 --> 0:02:29.550 then I left the country right? So I still have 0:02:29.550 --> 0:02:31.790 my friends but my wife and I she doesn't, you 0:02:31.790 --> 0:02:34.480 know my friends in Canada so it's less about her 0:02:34.490 --> 0:02:37.760 like them assimilating now with my wife because now our 0:02:37.760 --> 0:02:40.000 friends here are kind of our friends, right? So I 0:02:40.000 --> 0:02:41.100 don't really have that issue. Do 0:02:41.100 --> 0:02:44.760 you miss having your support system like your friends to 0:02:44.760 --> 0:02:47.360 share like these life experiences with? Because 0:02:47.440 --> 0:02:49.250 for me, I don't know if it's a girl guy thing, 0:02:49.250 --> 0:02:50.720 I'm not sure this is why it's men explained right? 0:02:50.720 --> 0:02:52.600 Because we want to know from the men what's the 0:02:52.600 --> 0:02:55.310 big difference for me and my girlfriends? We want to 0:02:55.310 --> 0:02:58.280 share like big experiences in life together. We move in 0:02:58.280 --> 0:03:00.980 through different phases of life and we try and try 0:03:00.980 --> 0:03:03.190 our best to spend it together and share that. Do 0:03:03.190 --> 0:03:05.040 you miss having that support system? 0:03:05.050 --> 0:03:06.359 I don't miss it because I 0:03:06.639 --> 0:03:08.859 I've never experienced it right? Because it's been so long now, 0:03:08.870 --> 0:03:10.720 I've been gone for 20 years. But to tell the 0:03:10.720 --> 0:03:12.710 truth when I see singaporeans and I see like in 0:03:12.710 --> 0:03:15.750 their social media feeds like my friend will be like 0:03:15.760 --> 0:03:18.270 me and my boys from whatever high school and they're 0:03:18.270 --> 0:03:21.490 still hanging out right, you know most important just say 0:03:21.490 --> 0:03:24.600 in Singapore. So your your friendship network doesn't move doesn't 0:03:24.600 --> 0:03:26.850 go so you guys are all here. So actually it's 0:03:26.850 --> 0:03:29.310 really nice because you guys are all like you're talking 0:03:29.310 --> 0:03:32.990 about all your girlfriends from years ago. Yeah, and you're 0:03:32.990 --> 0:03:35.860 all still together. Like actually I see that I'm like, wow, 0:03:35.870 --> 0:03:37.890 I'm jealous. Like that's really cool that you guys are 0:03:37.890 --> 0:03:40.180 all still like good friends and you're watching each other 0:03:40.200 --> 0:03:42.640 get older and get married and have kids and you're 0:03:42.640 --> 0:03:44.360 still part of each other's lives, like, like a meaningful 0:03:44.360 --> 0:03:45.100 part of each other's lives 0:03:45.110 --> 0:03:47.510 for sure. And sometimes when my girlfriends and I go 0:03:47.510 --> 0:03:51.280 out and we see like moms with babies and stuff 0:03:51.280 --> 0:03:53.330 and they're enjoying wine and stuff were like, yeah, that's 0:03:53.340 --> 0:03:55.930 us and we're like, we better do that together in 0:03:55.930 --> 0:03:57.460 like a few years and you will 0:03:57.470 --> 0:03:58.870 you're absolutely right 0:03:58.870 --> 0:04:01.160 for like a bottle of champagne or something 0:04:01.540 --> 0:04:04.130 responsibly. Of course, like my wife when she was pregnant, 0:04:04.130 --> 0:04:07.300 she bonded with some people from like a prenatal class 0:04:07.300 --> 0:04:08.970 or whatever. But I mean how much, how much better 0:04:08.970 --> 0:04:11.020 would that be if that was you and your friends 0:04:11.030 --> 0:04:12.850 like could be cooler right? And I know from my 0:04:12.850 --> 0:04:14.620 wife she'd rather have done that with their childhood friends 0:04:14.620 --> 0:04:16.159 or something, but you know, that wasn't 0:04:16.640 --> 0:04:18.610 we're not we're not there right? But you could do 0:04:18.610 --> 0:04:21.250 that, but she definitely misses her group of friends in 0:04:21.250 --> 0:04:21.350 her 0:04:21.350 --> 0:04:23.710 social status, but she's the same as me. We traveled 0:04:23.710 --> 0:04:26.669 for a long time. So you know, the old group 0:04:26.670 --> 0:04:28.250 of friends is like now they're like you're 0:04:28.839 --> 0:04:31.270 messenger friends, you just text him every once in a while. 0:04:31.279 --> 0:04:32.970 So when she needs to be about you? She bitches 0:04:32.970 --> 0:04:35.180 to her to me usually about you two. 0:04:35.180 --> 0:04:37.890 You Yeah. Which I've told her maybe don't ditch to 0:04:37.890 --> 0:04:38.740 me about me, 0:04:38.750 --> 0:04:40.230 right? Because she has no one else to 0:04:40.230 --> 0:04:42.790 beach to beach to the beach to the baby, he 0:04:42.790 --> 0:04:43.770 doesn't understand english, 0:04:43.779 --> 0:04:45.900 absorb everything. Oh 0:04:45.900 --> 0:04:47.210 no he will observe everything. Oh my 0:04:47.210 --> 0:04:51.660 gosh, daddy asshole, daddy asshole. Gosh, is he saying that now? 0:04:51.740 --> 0:04:53.870 He will, he will and if he does, I know 0:04:53.870 --> 0:04:55.670 where he got it from A few weeks. You got 0:04:55.670 --> 0:04:56.690 it from my wife, you know 0:04:56.690 --> 0:04:59.510 on that note as well, do you necessarily think like 0:04:59.520 --> 0:05:02.610 your soul mate has to be the person that you're 0:05:02.610 --> 0:05:04.040 in a romantic relationship 0:05:04.040 --> 0:05:07.380 with and I think the soulmate thing happens with your 0:05:07.390 --> 0:05:10.460 partner because you tend to spend more time, right? And 0:05:10.460 --> 0:05:12.590 they they see you all the time, right? So they 0:05:12.589 --> 0:05:14.299 know who you are and I guess you you either 0:05:14.300 --> 0:05:16.220 hate each other and kill each other or you become 0:05:16.220 --> 0:05:17.360 soul mates and you're like, 0:05:17.540 --> 0:05:18.720 you know this is my soulmate. Now 0:05:18.730 --> 0:05:21.350 I personally don't feel like there is 0:05:21.740 --> 0:05:23.560 an ideal way of thinking of 0:05:23.560 --> 0:05:25.300 the one soul mate. You never you never believe in 0:05:25.300 --> 0:05:26.740 a soul mate. I feel like I feel like you 0:05:26.740 --> 0:05:27.729 believe in a soul mate when I 0:05:27.730 --> 0:05:29.849 got together my first boyfriend, I thought he was the 0:05:29.850 --> 0:05:31.750 one I got together my second, I thought he was 0:05:31.750 --> 0:05:33.229 the one, the third one. I thought he was the 0:05:33.230 --> 0:05:35.060 one to the first one is the one, so, but 0:05:35.070 --> 0:05:35.940 but what, 0:05:35.950 --> 0:05:39.320 what should you think? Like, shouldn't you be thinking that? Yeah, 0:05:39.320 --> 0:05:40.700 I mean, I feel like you should be thinking that otherwise, 0:05:40.700 --> 0:05:41.390 why you're dating people? 0:05:41.390 --> 0:05:44.120 I would shift it, shift the perspective too. I can 0:05:44.120 --> 0:05:46.869 see myself spending my life with this person. I don't 0:05:46.870 --> 0:05:49.409 know whether this person is my forever soul mate. I 0:05:49.410 --> 0:05:53.480 feel like different phases in your life, the, you know, 0:05:53.480 --> 0:05:55.670 the definition of a soulmate or what you look for 0:05:55.680 --> 0:05:58.760 in a soul mate or partner changes along the way. Anyway, 0:05:58.839 --> 0:06:01.710 okay, so we're talking about soul mates and friends and 0:06:01.710 --> 0:06:02.760 lovers and all that. 0:06:02.839 --> 0:06:05.120 Have you ever watched Sex in the City before? Yes, 0:06:05.130 --> 0:06:07.909 you have actually really enjoyed the show. You do 0:06:07.920 --> 0:06:09.310 God, who's your favorite character? 0:06:09.360 --> 0:06:12.990 Samantha's cliche to say carry, no, no, no, no, you don't. 0:06:13.080 --> 0:06:14.790 Maybe charlotte 0:06:14.800 --> 0:06:17.120 charlotte interesting choice. Okay, 0:06:17.339 --> 0:06:19.089 because I think because she was cute, so, I think 0:06:19.089 --> 0:06:20.969 I was like, that's why when you 0:06:20.970 --> 0:06:23.690 watch the show was it because of a partner, Of course. 0:06:23.700 --> 0:06:25.980 Okay, that was my my ex girlfriend, we used to 0:06:25.980 --> 0:06:27.890 watch it and I was like, ah Sex in the 0:06:27.890 --> 0:06:28.760 City with these 0:06:29.040 --> 0:06:34.130 four ladies and there's no sex or there is, but 0:06:34.140 --> 0:06:35.849 when you mean when it came out, I was young, 0:06:36.390 --> 0:06:39.349 I was like, I want to see the more Sex 0:06:39.360 --> 0:06:42.840 in the City, There's very little Sex in the City. Yeah. 0:06:42.850 --> 0:06:45.150 More City than sex. And I'm like, 0:06:45.240 --> 0:06:47.370 but then I was watching it and like, you know, begrudgingly. 0:06:47.370 --> 0:06:48.570 I'm like, that's kind of funny. 0:06:48.580 --> 0:06:52.729 I'm honestly pretty surprised that you watched the series. Pleasantly surprised. 0:06:52.730 --> 0:06:55.270 I think every guy should watch it. My boyfriend just 0:06:55.270 --> 0:06:56.960 won't watch it with me. Really? Why not? 0:06:57.040 --> 0:06:58.880 I don't know. He's just like, oh man, it's a 0:06:58.880 --> 0:07:01.190 lot of girls talking and I just can't deal with it. 0:07:01.200 --> 0:07:04.969 Just like, yeah, that was really fun. Yeah, I think 0:07:04.970 --> 0:07:07.420 the old episodes hold up pretty well. Yeah, they really do. 0:07:07.420 --> 0:07:09.630 They really do. So I'm excited for the new chapter 0:07:09.640 --> 0:07:12.440 it's called. And just like that on HBO go. So 0:07:12.440 --> 0:07:14.740 we're really excited for that. Stay tuned because we have 0:07:14.740 --> 0:07:16.060 a little surprise for you 0:07:16.240 --> 0:07:18.550 coming up at the end of the episode. 0:07:18.640 --> 0:07:21.340 So Jason, even though your friends are not physically here 0:07:21.340 --> 0:07:22.730 in Singapore, the ones that you grew up with and 0:07:22.730 --> 0:07:25.410 all that, can you share an example with us of 0:07:25.410 --> 0:07:27.980 how they helped you get through like a difficult time 0:07:27.990 --> 0:07:29.590 if any off the top of your head, can you 0:07:29.590 --> 0:07:30.150 think of any, 0:07:30.160 --> 0:07:32.390 you know, I had a bad breakup, my, my best friend, 0:07:32.390 --> 0:07:34.500 I was like, do do you you free? And he 0:07:34.500 --> 0:07:36.810 flew out to Hong kong and then we went to, 0:07:36.820 --> 0:07:38.350 went to Thailand together and 0:07:38.730 --> 0:07:40.580 and I was just nice to have him around and like, 0:07:40.590 --> 0:07:41.400 so that was nice of him. 0:07:41.640 --> 0:07:44.500 Um Yeah, I had another friend one time when I 0:07:44.500 --> 0:07:45.060 was 0:07:45.440 --> 0:07:48.760 and university I I cut my finger 0:07:49.240 --> 0:07:52.070 cleaning a wine glass. The thing just popped and so 0:07:52.070 --> 0:07:54.210 then I pulled my hand out of the, out of 0:07:54.210 --> 0:07:57.290 the sink. All this blood sprayed on the wall and 0:07:57.290 --> 0:07:59.120 so I rushed to the hospital to get stitches right 0:07:59.130 --> 0:08:01.570 and when I came back my friend like cleaned up 0:08:01.570 --> 0:08:03.050 all the blood and he was sitting in the chair 0:08:03.220 --> 0:08:03.670 and I came 0:08:03.670 --> 0:08:04.920 back here 0:08:05.590 --> 0:08:06.760 is everything okay? 0:08:07.390 --> 0:08:08.350 And I said yeah yeah 0:08:08.740 --> 0:08:10.860 I just cut myself because oh 0:08:11.440 --> 0:08:13.060 I thought you killed somebody so I cleaned up all 0:08:13.060 --> 0:08:15.900 the cleaned up all the blood is still expected you 0:08:15.900 --> 0:08:16.750 know that this is a 0:08:16.750 --> 0:08:18.950 friend and I know yeah except when you got together 0:08:18.950 --> 0:08:21.810 with my ex girlfriends. Oh God what a plot twist. 0:08:21.810 --> 0:08:22.760 You didn't I didn't see 0:08:22.760 --> 0:08:25.160 that one coming. Neither did I. Oh my God you 0:08:25.160 --> 0:08:27.060 guys still friends. No. Oh 0:08:27.540 --> 0:08:29.900 but he cleaned up your blood. I know he would 0:08:29.900 --> 0:08:31.190 have cleaned up a murder scene. 0:08:31.200 --> 0:08:33.610 Well he cleaned up my ex. Oh 0:08:33.620 --> 0:08:38.360 my gosh I am there wow that is a plot twist, 0:08:38.360 --> 0:08:39.680 plot twist. There you go. 0:08:39.690 --> 0:08:42.340 I've never really I am shocked because you know he 0:08:42.340 --> 0:08:43.280 was so calm about this 0:08:43.280 --> 0:08:45.760 whole story. Yeah he was like I was calm. You 0:08:45.760 --> 0:08:46.990 will calm. I 0:08:47.000 --> 0:08:49.040 really didn't care. He sprayed blood all over my wall 0:08:49.040 --> 0:08:50.900 and then my friend cleaning up and by the way 0:08:50.900 --> 0:08:52.059 he also slept with my ex 0:08:52.059 --> 0:08:54.010 and I don't mean to be fair at that point 0:08:54.010 --> 0:08:54.590 I didn't care. 0:08:54.710 --> 0:08:56.750 So. Yeah. I mean you already access and are they 0:08:56.750 --> 0:08:58.260 still together? I think I think he got married 0:08:58.260 --> 0:08:59.160 had a kid. They got 0:08:59.340 --> 0:09:00.230 yeah. 0:09:00.240 --> 0:09:04.090 Damn. That's a great story man. Is it a great story? 0:09:04.679 --> 0:09:07.330 Doesn't seem like a great hindsight in hindsight. Maybe 0:09:07.330 --> 0:09:08.280 it's a great story for 0:09:08.280 --> 0:09:09.459 you. What a story. 0:09:09.650 --> 0:09:13.719 Rather entertaining. What a happy story at that time. I'll 0:09:13.720 --> 0:09:16.510 admit that that friend of yours but with your ex 0:09:16.510 --> 0:09:18.179 and had Children, wow. 0:09:18.190 --> 0:09:21.000 But I mean he didn't, she wasn't cheating on you with. 0:09:21.010 --> 0:09:23.390 It 0:09:23.390 --> 0:09:24.960 sounds worse than it is. So you're not old enough 0:09:24.960 --> 0:09:26.990 for maybe maybe once you get a little older than 0:09:27.000 --> 0:09:29.060 one of your exes will have gotten with 0:09:29.140 --> 0:09:31.179 somebody you know and then have Children. 0:09:31.190 --> 0:09:33.070 Most of my XS are older than me. So that's 0:09:33.070 --> 0:09:35.939 why they you know also went into the whole marriage 0:09:35.940 --> 0:09:38.620 thing faster. I guess they just saw everything they didn't 0:09:38.620 --> 0:09:40.780 want and settle down quickly with the next person that 0:09:40.790 --> 0:09:43.420 they saw no friends guys. Not at all. We still 0:09:43.420 --> 0:09:45.880 remain cordial for most of it. But you know my friends, 0:09:45.880 --> 0:09:48.920 especially my girlfriend's they've been through all kinds of ship 0:09:48.920 --> 0:09:51.110 with me man. Like I think they've seen me like 0:09:51.110 --> 0:09:54.179 at my worst. You know whether or not it's relationship 0:09:54.179 --> 0:09:56.679 troubles or just shift. I got myself into 0:09:56.690 --> 0:09:58.560 what's your worst? Like what's the specific 0:09:58.570 --> 0:10:01.550 okay so I had I'm not gonna yeah I hope 0:10:01.550 --> 0:10:04.830 he's not watching. So one of my, okay, then it's 0:10:04.830 --> 0:10:06.240 my first boyfriend. 0:10:06.250 --> 0:10:06.980 Say it. 0:10:06.990 --> 0:10:09.770 The first guy that I ever dated okay, was in 0:10:09.770 --> 0:10:11.920 school and I was like, oh man, like, you know, 0:10:11.920 --> 0:10:14.840 I really think that this is it, you know, as 0:10:14.840 --> 0:10:15.550 we always do. 0:10:15.840 --> 0:10:20.300 So we broke up unfortunately when I was still in 0:10:20.300 --> 0:10:24.120 taking my diploma at the time and then he carried 0:10:24.120 --> 0:10:26.680 on to date several other girls, but we kind of 0:10:26.679 --> 0:10:29.360 reappeared in each other's lives along the way. 0:10:29.840 --> 0:10:32.369 So then he goes, you know, I think this time like, 0:10:32.380 --> 0:10:35.579 I really wanted to work between us and I was like, 0:10:35.590 --> 0:10:37.980 I was so happy at the time, wasn't dating anyone. 0:10:37.990 --> 0:10:40.600 I told my mom about it actually. I was like, 0:10:40.600 --> 0:10:43.429 oh my god, mom, like we're really close. So I 0:10:43.429 --> 0:10:45.309 told her like, oh my god, remember this guy, like 0:10:45.320 --> 0:10:47.690 he's kind of interested to get back and you know, 0:10:47.690 --> 0:10:49.590 I think I'm interested to like we just met for 0:10:49.590 --> 0:10:51.260 dinner and it went really well 0:10:51.340 --> 0:10:52.930 and stuff and obviously I didn't tell her that we 0:10:52.929 --> 0:10:55.079 made out and stuff on, you know, catch up dinner. 0:10:55.090 --> 0:10:57.710 You don't you don't tell him, but now she's going 0:10:57.710 --> 0:11:00.970 to find out. So then basically I was so excited 0:11:00.970 --> 0:11:02.670 about it. I was like, oh my God, you know, like, yes, 0:11:02.670 --> 0:11:05.469 this is my chance gonna go for it, right? So 0:11:05.470 --> 0:11:08.350 he goes, I have to sort some personal things out 0:11:08.360 --> 0:11:09.900 because he was still dating someone at the 0:11:09.900 --> 0:11:12.459 time, 0:11:12.540 --> 0:11:15.250 and I was like, okay, I didn't tell you that 0:11:15.260 --> 0:11:16.180 he didn't tell me. They 0:11:16.179 --> 0:11:18.240 didn't tell you that as part of his pitch, like, hey, listen, 0:11:18.240 --> 0:11:20.449 I really think we can make this work. No, I'm 0:11:20.450 --> 0:11:20.970 dating someone. 0:11:20.970 --> 0:11:23.570 Wait a second. I don't think so, because at the time, 0:11:23.570 --> 0:11:26.510 like we I mean he wasn't really on instagram or 0:11:26.559 --> 0:11:28.600 social media wasn't that bad at that point in 0:11:28.610 --> 0:11:31.160 time. I think he was he just didn't tell you. 0:11:31.540 --> 0:11:35.580 Yes. So basically what happened was, he said, just give 0:11:35.580 --> 0:11:38.650 me some time to work things out and then we'll 0:11:38.660 --> 0:11:41.260 work it out together. So I said, okay, I waited 0:11:41.840 --> 0:11:45.330 and waited for like a day, two days, you know, 0:11:45.330 --> 0:11:47.250 I gave him a week outside, I think to myself, okay, 0:11:47.250 --> 0:11:48.530 I'll give him a week. I think that's a fair 0:11:48.530 --> 0:11:50.979 time for you to sort your stuff out and then 0:11:50.980 --> 0:11:52.959 get back to me at least send me a text right? 0:11:53.540 --> 0:11:56.450 Um a week went by and like no sound from him. 0:11:56.460 --> 0:11:59.150 So I sent him like a WhatsApp and I was like, hey, 0:11:59.160 --> 0:12:01.550 what's going on man? Like you want to chat someday? 0:12:01.940 --> 0:12:07.000 No response. And I realized that he blocked me, like, yeah. 0:12:07.010 --> 0:12:10.380 And so, and I'm not even like a psychotic person, okay, 0:12:10.380 --> 0:12:13.209 like I'm not crazy, I don't act out. I called 0:12:13.210 --> 0:12:17.090 him and realized that I was blocked off to Yeah. 0:12:17.100 --> 0:12:18.800 And so I was like, what the heck is going 0:12:18.800 --> 0:12:19.250 on right 0:12:19.900 --> 0:12:22.380 ex girlfriend find your number or something. So 0:12:22.380 --> 0:12:23.550 I'm getting there. I'm getting there. 0:12:23.640 --> 0:12:26.010 I managed to send him an S. M. S. Okay? 0:12:26.010 --> 0:12:28.350 Nobody sent sms already at 0:12:28.350 --> 0:12:30.250 that's for old people. I'll tell you 0:12:30.250 --> 0:12:32.960 that you're an S. M. S. Aren't you? 0:12:33.530 --> 0:12:34.640 I sent for this morning. 0:12:35.540 --> 0:12:36.050 Yes. 0:12:36.740 --> 0:12:38.660 Anyway um Sms him. 0:12:39.040 --> 0:12:42.010 He finally replied after a few days, he said hey 0:12:42.020 --> 0:12:43.260 I did some thinking 0:12:43.840 --> 0:12:47.150 and unfortunately I'm going to stick it out with this 0:12:47.150 --> 0:12:49.699 girl that I what are you telling 0:12:49.700 --> 0:12:50.780 you? At least he 0:12:50.780 --> 0:12:51.780 didn't even know he could have 0:12:51.790 --> 0:12:53.970 just the boss would be like, hey listen, you know 0:12:53.980 --> 0:12:54.840 it's great the other night 0:12:54.850 --> 0:12:58.440 but not crazy. Okay so so then I was so disappointed. 0:12:58.440 --> 0:13:00.660 I think that was the most distraught I've ever been. 0:13:00.670 --> 0:13:03.980 Like any sort of relationship breakup situation, 0:13:03.980 --> 0:13:05.310 whatever it is you should be because that guy was 0:13:05.309 --> 0:13:07.030 a dick. He's a dick for saying coming up to 0:13:07.030 --> 0:13:08.860 you and say let's go to dinner, we can work 0:13:08.860 --> 0:13:11.300 this out, I have a girlfriend. Yeah and then he's 0:13:11.300 --> 0:13:13.370 another he's a dick for for not just telling you 0:13:13.370 --> 0:13:15.080 he could have taken a couple of days, 0:13:15.090 --> 0:13:18.619 count how many times Jason said dick, you win a price. 0:13:18.840 --> 0:13:20.670 But yeah that was the most distraught I've ever been. 0:13:20.670 --> 0:13:23.940 So they've seen me through that I was bawling every day. 0:13:23.940 --> 0:13:26.689 Didn't eat much like for like two weeks almost they 0:13:26.700 --> 0:13:29.050 came around to my place pretty often at the time. 0:13:29.050 --> 0:13:30.800 I think they had to coordinate with like my folks 0:13:30.800 --> 0:13:32.520 because I was still living with them at the time 0:13:32.520 --> 0:13:34.369 and they had to coordinate, come down, make sure I 0:13:34.370 --> 0:13:37.219 was okay and you know, not doing crazy things like 0:13:37.230 --> 0:13:39.780 calling him 60 times or stuff like that. 0:13:39.790 --> 0:13:41.740 That guy is playing with you. He's like, did your friends? 0:13:41.740 --> 0:13:43.750 So did you like get revenge with your friends? Like 0:13:43.940 --> 0:13:46.050 because the sex and the city girls would have gotten revenge. 0:13:46.059 --> 0:13:47.360 They probably would have, it would have, it would have 0:13:47.360 --> 0:13:49.340 been sophisticated. They wouldn't like hit him or something. They 0:13:49.340 --> 0:13:52.219 would like, they would like wreck his, his like his 0:13:52.220 --> 0:13:54.100 book contract or something or like 0:13:54.110 --> 0:13:58.410 spike his drink with like laxatives. So during the pandemic, 0:13:58.420 --> 0:14:01.670 you obviously spent extra amount of time with your wife. 0:14:01.679 --> 0:14:03.790 You guys already live together. But did you guys learn 0:14:03.790 --> 0:14:06.160 anything new about each other over the pandemic? 0:14:06.340 --> 0:14:10.560 We learned we're this close to killing each other. Yeah. 0:14:10.570 --> 0:14:12.910 Because I think the lockdown period was when our son 0:14:12.910 --> 0:14:16.849 was born. So I think combined being a new parent, 0:14:16.860 --> 0:14:21.270 which is, I'll be straight. I love my boy. He's awesome. 0:14:21.280 --> 0:14:23.630 But when you first have a kid, I think for parent, 0:14:23.630 --> 0:14:24.979 I think her dad's might be different. I think, I 0:14:24.980 --> 0:14:27.940 think mothers instantly bond for like, but like honestly like 0:14:27.940 --> 0:14:28.750 you have a kid and you're like, 0:14:28.940 --> 0:14:30.390 it's the best thing that ever happened to me. No, 0:14:30.390 --> 0:14:30.860 it's not. 0:14:31.240 --> 0:14:34.470 It's like a fucking train just like ran into your 0:14:34.470 --> 0:14:37.150 house and destroyed your life because now you're like, I 0:14:37.150 --> 0:14:39.510 only sleep five hours at a time. Like we like, 0:14:39.520 --> 0:14:41.410 you know, you're on six hour shifts the whole time. Yeah. Yeah. 0:14:41.420 --> 0:14:44.380 So it's a big shock to the system. And especially, 0:14:44.390 --> 0:14:46.810 I think, I think my theory is that people who 0:14:46.820 --> 0:14:48.360 live like us artists, 0:14:48.840 --> 0:14:51.210 No, but people who people who don't have any responsibility. 0:14:51.220 --> 0:14:53.040 Like not not you don't have any responsibility but you're 0:14:53.040 --> 0:14:56.510 not working 9-5. Right? Right. Yeah. Yeah. And the thing 0:14:56.510 --> 0:14:57.950 is you're used to this kind of life, right? Like 0:14:57.960 --> 0:14:59.450 I'm used to that kind of life. So now suddenly 0:14:59.450 --> 0:15:02.260 like this thing, this little crying meatball is like 0:15:02.280 --> 0:15:03.200 demanding you need 0:15:03.200 --> 0:15:07.150 to take care of me and there's no way. Yeah. Yeah. 0:15:07.150 --> 0:15:08.710 I'm like that's the least of it. I'll clean your 0:15:08.710 --> 0:15:12.630 poop but just sleep. Please go to bed. Yeah. So 0:15:12.630 --> 0:15:15.050 I think, I think when that was happening for Covid, 0:15:15.050 --> 0:15:17.400