WEBVTT - Should I Only Date People In My League?

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to another episode of Men explained today. Oh, boy.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, invested in this topic. We're talking about dating

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<v Speaker 1>in or out of your league. Does that even exist?

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<v Speaker 1>I've got two very special guests with me. It's already chaos.

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<v Speaker 1>The moment I stepped in, say hi to Shawn and Nadia. Hi.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi, I am

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<v Speaker 1>Sean and I'm Nadia and I'm the better half of

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<v Speaker 1>why would you

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<v Speaker 2>start off with this?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to lie. I was waiting to see

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<v Speaker 1>that in person. It's part of the topic, Sean you

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<v Speaker 1>must get with it. Come on, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>assuming you are already above my leg. Yes, I'm,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm setting the stage first. Yeah. So you know where

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<v Speaker 1>this flows?

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't put her on a pedestal.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got time to unpack this. Ok. We've got time

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<v Speaker 1>to really discuss delve in and get into the nitty

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<v Speaker 1>gritty details. Let's go. Yeah, let's go. Ok, so we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about dating Les here today. I'm sure that this

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<v Speaker 1>has come up before. Subconsciously. Yeah. Sometimes we don't even

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<v Speaker 1>realize it right when you talk amongst your friends, sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>you go like, oh no, he's so you're so out

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<v Speaker 1>of his league or like,

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<v Speaker 1>now he's way below your league. Have you guys ever

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<v Speaker 1>heard of these phrases being thrown around? I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>a guy has, has told me that before. Like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I like you but I think you are out of

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<v Speaker 1>my league. I'm just like, I feel like you're better. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I was just like, why do you ever think that?

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<v Speaker 1>That's so weird.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. A girl has never said I'm out of the

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<v Speaker 2>league before. By the way, just putting out there,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to expand on that. Er, when this guy

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<v Speaker 1>told you that, how did that make you feel? I

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<v Speaker 1>just felt very weird because like, we are like classmates. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>back then, like way back and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I, I mean, it makes me feel good obviously. Like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, 00, you think I'm great? But I just like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to feel that way even like, it's

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<v Speaker 1>something that I want, I don't feel proud of because

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<v Speaker 1>it feels like a, like a wall, right? Ok. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>why would you,

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<v Speaker 2>which is weird that the guy said up front said that, right?

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<v Speaker 2>Would

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<v Speaker 1>you ever say that even if you felt that way?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>among guys when you discuss, like we discussed,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't

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<v Speaker 2>hear this. We were like, hey, you don't go for

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<v Speaker 2>this girl and then we say like she a bit

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<v Speaker 2>too up there for you. We will say some things

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<v Speaker 2>among ourselves but it's a bit weird to tell the

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<v Speaker 2>girl directly. Like, oh, I think you both.

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<v Speaker 1>So I want to break it down when you say, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>she is way too ups for you or two or two, whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>however you face it.

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<v Speaker 1>What is your definition of that? Is it looks, is

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<v Speaker 1>it intellect? Is it education? Is it what, or is

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<v Speaker 1>it a combination disclaimer

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<v Speaker 2>here? Um,

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<v Speaker 2>looks are not the only thing, it's the first impression, right? Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So sometimes if let's say we see someone that, that,

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<v Speaker 2>that looks like an influencer or a model immediately, most

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<v Speaker 2>guys will go like, you know, a lot of guys

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<v Speaker 2>chasing her. She, you know, I can, I can go

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<v Speaker 2>for 11.

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<v Speaker 1>Really? Ok. So that is, that is your immediate thought?

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<v Speaker 1>That is

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<v Speaker 2>what I hope most average guys feel

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<v Speaker 2>that I feel as well. I hope I speak for

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<v Speaker 2>every Singaporean out there.

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<v Speaker 1>But what about like getting to know the person better?

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<v Speaker 1>Like what if you really click intellectually

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<v Speaker 1>and on a different level, Sean is very good at

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<v Speaker 1>like getting girls. Like he knows how to, he knows

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<v Speaker 1>how to slip into, slide into the D MS and like,

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<v Speaker 1>like chat them up. Ok? I would like to continue,

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<v Speaker 1>continue like stuff I've heard, you know, like in the past,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, always like very like short. I'm like, wow,

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<v Speaker 1>a good man. Like he finished an opening line. May

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<v Speaker 1>I

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<v Speaker 2>ask who I can I can give you one that, that,

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<v Speaker 2>that she hates a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Ok. Ok. I'm ready. I think I

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<v Speaker 2>know this already. So, uh, so, yeah. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>no, I'm scared you should be, you should be.

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<v Speaker 2>What, what is the, the number of love, the

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<v Speaker 1>number of love?

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<v Speaker 2>What's, if love I would have a number. Right. What,

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<v Speaker 2>what's the number of love

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<v Speaker 1>or you can't put a number to it? It's infinite.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a good answer. But, but I scientifically, I have

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<v Speaker 2>a correct answer for you. OK. Right. Right. Right. So

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<v Speaker 2>the number is actually 55. Yeah, because you show me

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<v Speaker 2>number five,

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<v Speaker 1>you know how many times he has done on me?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my God. So then for you Nadia, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he's already shared what they talk about in their, their

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<v Speaker 1>men chat. So in girl chat, for example, girl guys that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you meet and like maybe potentially did all

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<v Speaker 1>has this ever come up and have you shared this

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<v Speaker 1>with your friends before? So like, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, well, this is a bit tough because maybe

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<v Speaker 1>it might make me sound a bit elitist somehow. OK? Like, OK,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the open space. So you can also ask

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<v Speaker 1>me about my thoughts. OK? I'm sure that I say

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<v Speaker 1>some unsavory things. I don't know. Go ahead. OK. Why

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<v Speaker 1>I think I might be a bit elitist is because

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<v Speaker 1>I want to find someone who is

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<v Speaker 1>smarter than I am smarter than you Yeah, because I

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<v Speaker 1>want to be inspired, you know, I want to be

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<v Speaker 1>inspired by whoever I'm with like

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<v Speaker 2>how many, how many score?

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<v Speaker 1>Say no.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. How much was yours?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So that's why I, I would like kind of

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<v Speaker 1>look at the school sometimes. Fish, fish. OK. Kind of

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<v Speaker 1>I said kind of, but it's not the be all

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<v Speaker 1>and all it subconscious thing is it sometimes you just, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a subconscious thing like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>because I know of some schools and I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>of some schools. So if I sometimes I don't hear

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<v Speaker 1>of some schools, I'm like, oh, like it just makes

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<v Speaker 1>me look elitist but actually I'm just not aware sometimes. Ok,

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<v Speaker 1>I get what you mean. I get it's not the

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<v Speaker 1>be all and every school is a good school. I know.

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<v Speaker 1>I know. But I don't know, it was more like

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<v Speaker 1>the education of the education I think also because

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<v Speaker 1>grew up in Singapore. Yeah, it always like fit into

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<v Speaker 1>our brains. Like no, you know, because everything enough on

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<v Speaker 1>that note since, since you mentioned it, um one of

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<v Speaker 1>my close friends, we were just having a chat, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>um typical girls chat, an average of six hours. And we,

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<v Speaker 1>and we were talking about this and she brought up

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<v Speaker 1>um this guy that she dated a couple of years

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<v Speaker 1>back

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<v Speaker 1>and she said, you know, like I never realized this,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't actually know which school he came from because

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<v Speaker 1>I never talked about it because he never brought it

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<v Speaker 1>up and he, she just found out recently that he

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<v Speaker 1>actually didn't complete, er, I think he didn't go to

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<v Speaker 1>JC or POLY or something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>And to her that made her feel quite shocked because

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<v Speaker 1>I think in a society like Singapore we are so

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<v Speaker 1>used to. Oh, you got to, you got to Chung

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<v Speaker 1>all the way you finish your diploma, you get your degree.

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<v Speaker 1>So to her, she was like, oh, I was shocked

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<v Speaker 1>but then maybe that's why it explains that I couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>get along with him to some extent because certain things

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<v Speaker 1>that I wanted to talk about him, he could never

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<v Speaker 1>really like continue the conversation. So I was like, oh really?

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<v Speaker 1>Like I didn't think I didn't think of that

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<v Speaker 1>because I would not, that is not the first question

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<v Speaker 1>that comes to my mind like what school are you from?

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<v Speaker 1>But

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<v Speaker 2>they were together for

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<v Speaker 1>years. She never a year or so I think it

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<v Speaker 1>just never came up for some reason, like they just

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<v Speaker 1>never talked about

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<v Speaker 2>it. So let's say you were to, let's say you

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<v Speaker 2>are on the market now and somebody hit you. But

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<v Speaker 2>I'm from, I'm from secondary school.

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<v Speaker 1>What's up

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<v Speaker 2>like the most neighborhood school

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<v Speaker 2>then? Would you automatically think neighborhood school? OK. You need

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<v Speaker 2>to work harder to chase

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<v Speaker 1>me. Not necessarily that way, not from an elite school.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm also just, you know, from a regular school, Anthony's

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<v Speaker 1>whatsapp and, and you know, the thing, the thing about

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<v Speaker 1>it is back then I met all kinds of people. Right. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you meet people from boy school, from mix school, whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think, like, everyone comes together in a setting

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<v Speaker 1>like poly where you don't, you would have never thought

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<v Speaker 1>you meet, like, wow, such a wide variety of people.

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<v Speaker 1>And it strikes me that everyone is intellectual in their

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<v Speaker 1>own way or, you know, they communicate in their own way.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe it's just not what you're used to. But if

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<v Speaker 1>you're a bit more open minded, yeah, it's ok. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Can be more open mind. No. Ok. So that's why

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to continue and say, like, because of, ok, so,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I talked to my girlfriend before

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<v Speaker 1>about like, oh, like, oh, then they'll be like, where did,

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<v Speaker 1>where did he come from? Like, oh, what school and all?

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<v Speaker 1>So when I, when I tell it to them and

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<v Speaker 1>then they are like, uh, like, really? I'm just like, huh?

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<v Speaker 1>But it's ok, like I'm ok with it. I'm just like, saying, like,

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<v Speaker 1>this is what gets brought up sometimes but it's not

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<v Speaker 1>all the time. Yeah, for sure. Especially in our country.

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<v Speaker 1>I think

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<v Speaker 2>if you're watching this don't be so judgy. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>are they dating or single or, um, dating? Dating? Yeah. Ok. Ok. So,

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<v Speaker 1>aside from the education aspect, I mean, there are other

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<v Speaker 1>things that we look at, you know, for example, financial

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<v Speaker 1>status age, um, do these things pop up as well?

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<v Speaker 1>Like when you look at a potential partner,

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<v Speaker 2>not when I say this right to me, I'm ok with, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>if my partner earns more than me. Right. And like,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, in this day and age it's not, it's

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<v Speaker 2>not a fast anymore. Right. I, I thought I told her, like,

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<v Speaker 2>if my partner earns a lot, right? I will be

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<v Speaker 2>the best stay at home dad for, for, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going, when you're home, I'm going to make sure

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<v Speaker 2>the food is, food is cold, the house is clean, everything.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, you just earn the money. I do anything else?

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<v Speaker 2>That's

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<v Speaker 1>great. And why he says I hate it is because

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<v Speaker 1>like what I said, I like someone with ambition. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want someone who, who desires to stay at home

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<v Speaker 1>and calling me lazy and we all make I know,

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<v Speaker 1>say you say yourself ok. So are you more of

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<v Speaker 1>like a go getter?

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<v Speaker 1>I feel I'm more of a go getter and more

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<v Speaker 1>of a I would say I'm more alpha than the

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<v Speaker 1>usual girl. And that's why I feel I need someone

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<v Speaker 1>more alpha than I am, which is who's going out alpha.

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<v Speaker 1>You ok? I am also not sure. So don't you

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<v Speaker 1>think sometimes you need, do you need a balance? You

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<v Speaker 1>feel like, do you think? Yeah, you need a in

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<v Speaker 1>your

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<v Speaker 2>life.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually I am. Although I, I think I'm a bit

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<v Speaker 1>more alpha,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very simp. Like I am a simp. Ok. So

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<v Speaker 1>I can be like the simp in the relationship. But

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<v Speaker 1>I would really like someone who, who is driven, who

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<v Speaker 1>knows what they want, at least, you know, like you

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to be like a CEO, you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>just need to know what you want to do with

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<v Speaker 1>your life and like

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<v Speaker 1>too lazy. Like no, not

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<v Speaker 2>for me, you can ask you both this question. So

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<v Speaker 2>you're dating this guy, right? So this guy is just

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<v Speaker 2>working at, let's say a random part time job. But

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<v Speaker 2>he says his dream is to one day make it

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<v Speaker 2>big as a musician. He's working on it but financially

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<v Speaker 2>8 50 an hour, but he's very driven. Would you

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<v Speaker 2>consider at this stage? Now?

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<v Speaker 1>Actually, you, you, you interesting that you brought up at

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<v Speaker 1>this stage because I think a different face calls for

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<v Speaker 1>a different mindset.

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<v Speaker 1>I think for me in this head space right now,

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<v Speaker 1>I do need someone to like match up to my

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<v Speaker 1>current ambition and phase of life and it, it, that's

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<v Speaker 1>why it's always difficult for me to date people of

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<v Speaker 1>the same age. I'm not saying that people of my

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<v Speaker 1>age are not, don't have it together. But I think

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<v Speaker 1>in general cause guys enter the workforce a little later.

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<v Speaker 1>So maybe they take some time as well and it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't help that I entered the workforce super early, like

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<v Speaker 1>I entered when I was in school still.

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<v Speaker 1>So, technically, it seems like I have a lifetime of

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<v Speaker 1>work experience, but I was just working through my school

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<v Speaker 1>days and then the early twenties and all that. Right. So,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, unfortunately in this phase of my life I

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<v Speaker 1>need to date someone who is a bit more stable. Yeah. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's why my current partner is 14 years older. Ok.

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<v Speaker 1>That is why I don't like dating apps because I

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<v Speaker 1>don't like looking at it like it's a resume, you know? Ok.

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<v Speaker 1>So I've never been on a dating app. Tell me

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<v Speaker 1>why

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<v Speaker 1>it's, it's horrible because I feel like at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the day I'm just swiping everyone away and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm such a horrible person. I'm just looking at everything

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<v Speaker 1>at face value and just seeing what job they have,

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<v Speaker 1>what school they are in, like, how old they are.

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<v Speaker 1>They do the same to you. Yeah. I know. But

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like, it gets too technical. Like you just like, oh, ok.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just looking at your, your CV or something. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't like that, that feeling. Yeah. So, in

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<v Speaker 1>the end I just used it, like, twice and I, like,

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<v Speaker 1>buy because I,

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<v Speaker 1>I just feel horrible. Like, I'm judging based on their

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<v Speaker 1>looks and, like, just very superficial things. Yeah. But if

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<v Speaker 1>I meet someone face to face, like, organically, I can

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<v Speaker 1>even fall in love with someone who is, like, like

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<v Speaker 1>way younger than I am or like, you know, like, er,

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<v Speaker 1>not even financially stable as I am. Yeah. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>why it's very different. I agree because when you look

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<v Speaker 1>at the, the stats

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<v Speaker 1>on the dating app, for example, you are already seeing

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<v Speaker 1>out what you think you don't want right before you

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<v Speaker 1>even get to know a person. Yeah. And of course

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<v Speaker 1>you just want the best, right? So, if you are searching,

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<v Speaker 1>then I will search for the best. It's like normal, like, jobs.

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<v Speaker 2>So your partner, let, say you studying poly, you go

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<v Speaker 2>pick him up, you. Ok,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm ok. Ok. If the chemistry, if I love him

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<v Speaker 1>that much, I will just do it.

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<v Speaker 2>You go pick up your boyfriend.

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<v Speaker 1>Ok. My boyfriend used to pick me from school. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like, it's just perception, right? Like society's perception, like,

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<v Speaker 1>if you were sidetracked a little, but if you were

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<v Speaker 1>30 year old guy dating a 40 year old woman,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not so bad.

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<v Speaker 1>But then suddenly if you are like a 30 year

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<v Speaker 1>old woman dating a 20 year old guy, then people

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<v Speaker 1>are like, oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just the stage of life stage of life. Exactly. Ok. Maybe,

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<v Speaker 1>probably a bit too extreme. Like, if you put it

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<v Speaker 1>in uni, it's like, not so bad, you know, like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's getting out soon. It's true. And I just judge

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<v Speaker 1>the nu pageant I'm saying, what's up, what is up,

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<v Speaker 1>show you some video later?

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<v Speaker 1>So Sean in a hypothetical situation, hypothetical, ok, would you

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<v Speaker 1>rather date up or date down if the dating leaks

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<v Speaker 1>do exist?

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<v Speaker 2>So, to me, I, I absolutely believe the dating links

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<v Speaker 2>exist and to answer your question, right. Most guys, you

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<v Speaker 2>guys will you date up, right? But I think for

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<v Speaker 2>me in actuality, right?

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<v Speaker 2>I won't have the confidence to get out. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think

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<v Speaker 1>so.

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<v Speaker 2>II I don't think I will dare to even strike

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<v Speaker 2>up a with a girl you

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<v Speaker 1>have. Do you feel OK, this might be a bit

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<v Speaker 1>of a personal question and I hope it's not too sensitive.

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<v Speaker 1>But do you think you said that you are not

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<v Speaker 1>confident enough? Do you think that you mask that with

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<v Speaker 1>like trying to be funny or like dropping one liners

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<v Speaker 2>100% all

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<v Speaker 1>the time? Is it really? OK? I wasn't sure that

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<v Speaker 1>was like a sensitive question to ask. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>everyone's insecure to a certain extent. Right. Right. And, and

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<v Speaker 2>11 thing that, that my, my company always makes me

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<v Speaker 2>feel insecure about my height. So

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<v Speaker 1>no, but we always say that you are funny and

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<v Speaker 1>and witty,

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<v Speaker 2>hence why I compensate,

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<v Speaker 1>we can give us a witty line and he will

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<v Speaker 1>be like, OK, OK.

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<v Speaker 2>So for me, right? Like if I see someone who

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<v Speaker 2>I perceive as as a bit. Right. I will have

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<v Speaker 2>more confidence to, to approach

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<v Speaker 1>it a bit lower.

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<v Speaker 2>Um,

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<v Speaker 2>oh, it is a bit lower. Ok, let's say, er,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe someone socially is a bit more shy. My safest

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<v Speaker 2>answer I can tell

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<v Speaker 1>you or maybe at a different stage of life, like

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<v Speaker 1>maybe still figuring career out or, I don't know, in

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<v Speaker 1>a place where you kind of figured it

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<v Speaker 2>out, but at my age, if I did someone who

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<v Speaker 2>was still in school, it is a bit questionable. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean, hold on you. Are you OK. When I was

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<v Speaker 1>in uni,

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<v Speaker 1>I did a 30 year old.

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<v Speaker 2>You were like 2021? Ok. Ok. Ok. Ok.

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<v Speaker 1>Ok. Ok. Ok. OK. Don't come at me, comment section.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very scared of you guys. Sometimes I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like if I'm chasing someone who I perceive to be higher, I,

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<v Speaker 2>I over think a lot of things like, ok, guys

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<v Speaker 2>are sending her home already, then I don't drive, then

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<v Speaker 2>guys are buying her things. We, I can afford it.

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<v Speaker 2>I only have my, my personal to, to win you

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<v Speaker 2>over there, but

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<v Speaker 1>personality is the most important. Yeah. Honestly I tell you,

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<v Speaker 1>I would rather date a guy with good personality and

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<v Speaker 1>character than a guy with a Lamborghini like 100% right?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, sometimes they put them in front of the car,

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<v Speaker 1>in front of the car, like such a huge turn

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<v Speaker 1>off and I'm like a

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<v Speaker 2>personality is not,

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<v Speaker 2>is it a first impression thing to you guys or

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<v Speaker 2>looks first? And if you drive a car, you think? Ok,

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<v Speaker 2>this guy?

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<v Speaker 1>No. Ok. The funny thing is actually I'll tell you

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<v Speaker 1>what happened when I first went out with my current partner. Ok.

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<v Speaker 1>So firstly I, OK, I wasn't immediately like, oh, ok,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna, I'm gonna date you or like, it wasn't immediate,

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<v Speaker 1>we, we got to know each other like slowly. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, oh, I really like, I, I'm a, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a personality person so I really like if you make

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<v Speaker 1>me laugh or like, we get along really well, we

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<v Speaker 1>can banter and stuff, you know, banter on love. I

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<v Speaker 1>learn what's going on. Ok. No, but the is important,

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<v Speaker 1>like fun. It is important. Yeah, you keep the conversation going,

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<v Speaker 1>you can talk for hours, you can do all kinds

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<v Speaker 1>of things together. Then, er, m, I didn't ask about

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<v Speaker 1>his background or anything. Like, I didn't know much about

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<v Speaker 1>him at all. We went out on a date

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<v Speaker 1>and we went for dinner. So we sat down, we

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<v Speaker 1>ate and then there's a valley service outside because it's

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<v Speaker 1>like one of those parallel parking areas with no parking space.

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<v Speaker 1>So this like, quite ratchet car rolls by. That looks

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<v Speaker 1>like it just got banged up in an accident and

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<v Speaker 1>they patched up the door with like something else, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like that kind of. So, and then we are sitting

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<v Speaker 1>right at the road near the roadside and he goes, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's my car.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I turned around and I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, it was so cute and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a cute car and he goes, no, I'm kidding.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not, I'm just, I'm just joking. Just testing you.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh, ok. Was that a test? I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, did I pass? I don't know. But it

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<v Speaker 1>also shows that he is funny. Exactly. I did get

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<v Speaker 1>a good laugh out of it because how he was

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<v Speaker 1>dressed did not match that car at all. And I

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<v Speaker 1>thought it would be hilarious if that was.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And to me that doesn't matter because my whole life, um, even,

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<v Speaker 1>like growing up with my family and I, we've been

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<v Speaker 1>driving like, second-hand cars, like, not branded cars. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think that's important. I don't think it's important.

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<v Speaker 2>So, what made you agree to give him a chance

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<v Speaker 2>or go on a first date in the first

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<v Speaker 1>place? Um, we, we had so much laughter. We, we

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<v Speaker 1>had so much fun because anyway, this is a long

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<v Speaker 1>story about how we met but

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<v Speaker 1>we, we just really got on very well. So I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, ok, let's, let's, let's try.

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<v Speaker 2>But if he had complete strangers just let us, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>would you like to get dinner sometime? Probably not.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm, I'm kind of more of the, I need

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<v Speaker 1>to get to know you a little bit first. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, conversation is very important to me. So,

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<v Speaker 1>for you, Nadia, you were saying earlier, um, or, or

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<v Speaker 1>rather you haven't answered this, would you rather date up

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<v Speaker 1>or down? Ok. So for me I would rather date up,

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<v Speaker 1>of course.

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<v Speaker 1>Ok. I think it's quite obvious from what I've been saying. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really that I want to be inspired and I

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<v Speaker 1>want to really look up to someone I want to

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<v Speaker 1>improve as a person.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And I feel like I will only listen to

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<v Speaker 1>a guy more if I really think highly of him. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So I cannot judging you right now. Hey, no, there

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<v Speaker 1>is no right or wrong in this, right? There's no

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<v Speaker 1>right or wrong. So, have you ever dated someone that

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<v Speaker 1>you felt didn't quite inspire you? I think the inspiration

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<v Speaker 1>part is quite hard

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<v Speaker 1>but at least like for the people I've dated so far,

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<v Speaker 1>I am comfortable with them. Yeah. Like I like talking

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<v Speaker 1>to them. Yeah. But that's why being inspired by someone

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<v Speaker 1>maybe takes,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a whole, it's a, it's a person that you

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<v Speaker 1>can't really find, but I think in the slow day

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<v Speaker 1>to day things then you can be inspired by them

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<v Speaker 1>in the future. I mean, of course there are pros

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<v Speaker 1>and cons of dating, like what is perceived as a

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<v Speaker 1>superior partner. Right. Right. And one of it you mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>is admiration, er, m you know, being mentally, like stimulating

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<v Speaker 1>as well for, I guess the intellectual part of things,

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<v Speaker 1>but the cons, do you feel like there could be

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<v Speaker 1>differing values in some way or you might knock kids

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit? The partner that is not as, not

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<v Speaker 1>at the same level might feel a bit of inequality.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you guys feel like that might be the case?

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<v Speaker 1>I think generally

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<v Speaker 1>for guys, they would rather be the superior or the

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<v Speaker 1>more dominating partner in a relationship. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to say for all guys, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>a bit about the ego.

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<v Speaker 2>So if I'm dating someone who lets say looks wise, right?

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<v Speaker 2>It's way above me, right? I insecure every day everywhere

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<v Speaker 2>I walk, right, guys confirm I look her up. Then

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<v Speaker 2>I be like what you guys are into the DM

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<v Speaker 2>and all

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<v Speaker 1>confident like, wow, look this girl, this is my girl

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<v Speaker 1>she chose me

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<v Speaker 2>can break up on, you know, with someone else.

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<v Speaker 1>No. OK. So you, you tend to think that way.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm quite, quite pessimistic and now that I think

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<v Speaker 2>about it. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>man. OK. I wonder what kind of trauma let you

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<v Speaker 1>hear though? Like, oh no, but

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<v Speaker 2>yellow

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<v Speaker 1>rather other than her looks.

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<v Speaker 2>So to me,

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<v Speaker 2>to me, personality, I, I believe in myself enough of

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<v Speaker 2>a personality. It's just that 1st 1st impression it's a

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<v Speaker 2>bit harder for me perhaps

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<v Speaker 2>because you see the way I dress at work. It's

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<v Speaker 2>not the best that

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<v Speaker 1>can be changed. I mean, that's not difficult. Ok. But

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<v Speaker 1>because our workplace setting is more like a relax, more relaxed. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So we don't we wear when I go to the office? Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, like exercise clothes almost like every day, like,

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<v Speaker 1>and shorts. Yeah, similar to, like, superficial thing can be changed.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you

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<v Speaker 2>put guys on the pedestals?

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<v Speaker 1>What do you mean? Yeah. In what sense,

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<v Speaker 2>er, let's say in terms of like,

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<v Speaker 1>who's a good catch,

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<v Speaker 2>is it? Yeah. Like he's so much better than me.

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<v Speaker 2>I need to constantly do more, I need to be

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<v Speaker 2>the one that put in more effort in the relationship

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<v Speaker 2>or to chase,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, depends from guy to guy. Ok. If I

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<v Speaker 1>really like a guy, of course, I will put in

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<v Speaker 1>more effort. Ok. But the chasing aspect of it, I

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<v Speaker 1>usually go about doing my own things day to day

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<v Speaker 1>and then I will wait for someone to

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<v Speaker 1>come to me instead. So I try not to think

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<v Speaker 1>too much about it and, uh, maybe just to cite

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<v Speaker 1>a few examples back then because, and I was sharing

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<v Speaker 1>this with my friends too, you know, we don't choose

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<v Speaker 1>what kind of family we are born into or what, um,

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<v Speaker 1>socioeconomic status you are born into. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>So, naturally if you're born into like a higher ses, er, m,

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<v Speaker 1>you might meet people of the same pedigree. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if that's the right word to use, but for me. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I am not familiar with a lot of these, these people, ok,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just a normal person. Go to normal school and

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<v Speaker 1>then as I kind of went into the industry or

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<v Speaker 1>even just like, grew up and met more people through

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<v Speaker 1>friends and all

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<v Speaker 1>this guy asked me out and, uh, I, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know who he is. Like, he was just like, oh, no.

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<v Speaker 1>Met him at a club. You just asked me out?

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, OK, so I decided to go and

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<v Speaker 1>then my friend was like, oh, who's this person that

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<v Speaker 1>you met at, at that asked you out? I said, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's this guy and she's like, oh my God, this

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<v Speaker 1>guy is the son of like some, I don't know, billionaire.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what, like some family, some like big family,

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<v Speaker 1>they own some big group and company and all that.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, oh, I had no, I had

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<v Speaker 1>no idea. He seemed like just a regular guy. But

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<v Speaker 1>after she put that in my mind and after I

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<v Speaker 1>knew that he was from like a certain family, I

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<v Speaker 1>started to like, feel a little nervous because usually I

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<v Speaker 1>don't really care and I'm comfortable and confident in like

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<v Speaker 1>who I am and my family background. And yeah, we

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<v Speaker 1>grew up in H DB flat, like I'm fine with it.

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<v Speaker 1>But I started to feel subconscious like when he would

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<v Speaker 1>drive his like fancy sports car to drop me off, like,

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<v Speaker 1>at H DB flat. Like I'm wondering like, what is

0:24:01.500 --> 0:24:05.718
<v Speaker 1>he thinking? Is he conscious that I stay? Not in

0:24:05.729 --> 0:24:08.520
<v Speaker 1>a fancy house, like not in a GCB condo. So

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<v Speaker 1>I was just like, you know what I think I

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<v Speaker 1>can't deal and it just didn't really quite work out also.

0:24:12.760 --> 0:24:13.989
<v Speaker 1>I was a bit young and I was just dating

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<v Speaker 1>for fun. So, yeah. But yeah, I don't know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of got into my head and I was also

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<v Speaker 1>younger and more immature at that time.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's why I rather not know. That's why

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<v Speaker 1>it's good to not know all these things.

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<v Speaker 2>But so dating both league. Sorry to drop you. But

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<v Speaker 2>it's absolutely, you believe it's a thing, I

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<v Speaker 1>believe it's a thing. Subconscious or not. I think it exists.

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<v Speaker 1>I think also when you like, meet their family. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you subconsciously like, ok, I have to sit like this.

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<v Speaker 1>Did they eat like this? Yeah, I had another, I see,

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<v Speaker 1>I dated a lot of people, another,

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<v Speaker 1>er, m whose whole family is like doctors and they

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<v Speaker 1>didn't approve of me because I was studying media. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So that made me feel like a lower, a lower rung.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean? Even though I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>that it is necessary but I just felt like smaller suddenly. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that the case.

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<v Speaker 2>So, so what do you think then? Like, like, let's

0:25:10.290 --> 0:25:12.560
<v Speaker 2>say a couple is dating Right. And clearly one is

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<v Speaker 2>way above the girl. I leave it up to you.

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<v Speaker 2>How can the couple successfully make it work? Because so

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<v Speaker 2>far everything is about all not working. Right. So,

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<v Speaker 1>I know of a couple and her mom didn't approve

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<v Speaker 1>of their relationship because of their education level. So she's from, like, like,

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<v Speaker 1>school ever. Yeah. She didn't want to listen to her mom.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, oh, wow. Because, like, you are really, really,

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<v Speaker 1>like, smart and like, maybe, like, intellectually he won't be

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<v Speaker 1>on your level. But when I saw how they interact

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<v Speaker 1>and how loving he is and how he's always thinking

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<v Speaker 1>of her and that love that you see in the couple,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, like, no matter the education level or whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>financial background or whatever, like, I think all those things

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<v Speaker 1>can be, like, thrown out the window, like, it's really

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<v Speaker 1>personality and

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<v Speaker 1>that, that loving heart, the heart is the most important.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's very important to find someone that makes

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<v Speaker 1>you laugh and cares for you and loves you. Yeah. Right. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you agree? You were going to chime in? Sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>I also asked

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<v Speaker 2>whether the guy is a bum or not. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>No, he's not, he's not a bum but he's not

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<v Speaker 1>like a super, like, financially savvy. Yeah. Actually, likewise, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>just to draw a reference to my own current relationship

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<v Speaker 1>as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Er, he's very successful in finance funny enough and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>so shit at, I just cannot creative people to count

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<v Speaker 1>to paper and like, I don't know, your account is

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<v Speaker 1>a thing. OK. Um He's also from like ac you know,

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<v Speaker 1>different background, different background. Grew up in a very nice neighborhood,

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<v Speaker 1>total opposite, you know, of me. Not that my neighborhood

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<v Speaker 1>was a nice, it was great, it was great.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think it's also about upbringing because he wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>the typical kind of guy that I think in my

0:27:02.560 --> 0:27:06.239
<v Speaker 1>mind like, oh, ac a, you know, that kind of

0:27:06.339 --> 0:27:09.569
<v Speaker 1>you have the stereotype, right? But he busted that stereotype.

0:27:09.579 --> 0:27:11.889
<v Speaker 1>He was like, totally different. And I really think that

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes it comes down to also how the family taught

0:27:15.890 --> 0:27:18.810
<v Speaker 1>their kids, I guess growing up, you know, um, how

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<v Speaker 1>you should treat people, get to know people, not judge

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<v Speaker 1>people based on just face back.

0:27:23.885 --> 0:27:24.906
<v Speaker 1>True. True. Yeah. Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>So, actually, have you ever asked him when, when he,

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<v Speaker 2>when you started dating? Right? Did he think of you as,

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<v Speaker 2>as above his league or below?

0:27:32.416 --> 0:27:35.635
<v Speaker 1>Good question. I've never actually asked if he thought I

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<v Speaker 1>was above his. He wouldn't ask me out, right? Or

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<v Speaker 1>would he based based

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<v Speaker 2>on my logic as a guy? I won't, but I

0:27:41.046 --> 0:27:41.895
<v Speaker 2>don't know whether for him.

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<v Speaker 1>Ok. You know what, let me ask him now.

0:27:44.291 --> 0:27:46.831
<v Speaker 1>That is a very good question. Should I call him

0:27:46.842 --> 0:27:51.781
<v Speaker 1>now and ask him? Oh, do it. Oh my God. Ok. Ok.

0:27:52.031 --> 0:27:55.342
<v Speaker 1>Please be free. It should be lunch time. Is it? Ok.

0:27:55.352 --> 0:27:57.271
<v Speaker 1>Let's try. Let's try, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,

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<v Speaker 2>wait, if you want to find out whether so is

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<v Speaker 2>above or below, right. Subscribe to find out now.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, no.

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<v Speaker 1>Come on, come on, come on, come on, come on.

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<v Speaker 1>Ok. Wow, that's ringing. Let me message him.

0:28:19.790 --> 0:28:23.319
<v Speaker 1>I'm not like, 000, hey, are you free?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm having a lunch, lunch. Ok. I have one minute,

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<v Speaker 1>just one minute of your time. So the question is

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<v Speaker 1>when you first asked me out, do you think that

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<v Speaker 1>I was above or below your league? Maybe,

0:28:46.989 --> 0:28:49.510
<v Speaker 1>maybe highly above

0:28:52.060 --> 0:28:53.859
<v Speaker 1>why? In what way?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you are like a celebrity, right? And I'm

0:28:57.900 --> 0:28:59.109
<v Speaker 1>just a normal guy.

0:28:59.719 --> 0:29:02.300
<v Speaker 1>Ok. But, but, but background wise, you know, you are

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<v Speaker 1>more financially stable, you're more like experienced, right? So it

0:29:07.270 --> 0:29:09.300
<v Speaker 1>was just because of that that you felt I was

0:29:09.310 --> 0:29:10.369
<v Speaker 1>above your league.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh Yeah, and you are, you know, pretty hot.

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<v Speaker 1>Ok, by the way, there's like 20 people sitting in

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<v Speaker 1>front of me and you're on speaker. Thanks for answering.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me know.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you. Thank you. You always make our episode. Great. Thanks. Ok,

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<v Speaker 1>go back to your lunch for my. Ok, so now

0:29:40.770 --> 0:29:43.380
<v Speaker 1>thank you for asking that question. I never actually asked him.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, so there, there you go. Ok, so even

0:29:46.209 --> 0:29:47.920
<v Speaker 1>if you think that someone is above your need, you

0:29:47.930 --> 0:29:50.550
<v Speaker 1>can still ask them out because their perspective might be otherwise. Right. Yeah.

0:29:50.560 --> 0:29:52.989
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes guys are, like, just go for it like a

0:29:53.109 --> 0:29:54.630
<v Speaker 1>one time, you know,

0:29:54.810 --> 0:29:59.939
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't, it's ok. At least I tried. Yeah. Exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Rather regret. Regret. Not.

0:30:02.020 --> 0:30:05.079
<v Speaker 1>Exactly. Right. Yeah, we should end on that note. That's

0:30:05.300 --> 0:30:07.439
<v Speaker 1>a great thing to print on a t-shirt or something.

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<v Speaker 2>You learned more today. Yeah, we

0:30:09.819 --> 0:30:13.109
<v Speaker 1>are. You too. You too. Hopefully everyone learn a little

0:30:13.119 --> 0:30:16.380
<v Speaker 1>bit more. Ok. So to end off does being in

0:30:16.390 --> 0:30:19.310
<v Speaker 1>the same league even matter at the end of the

0:30:19.319 --> 0:30:22.699
<v Speaker 1>day after all this discussion, does it even matter?

0:30:23.000 --> 0:30:24.380
<v Speaker 2>Not after the phone call?

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for giving us the confidence for giving men

0:30:29.819 --> 0:30:32.500
<v Speaker 1>the confidence. So now Sean, you can go all out,

0:30:32.510 --> 0:30:33.290
<v Speaker 1>go all out

0:30:33.770 --> 0:30:36.599
<v Speaker 2>inspiration. He inspires me like how not expect guys to

0:30:36.609 --> 0:30:37.410
<v Speaker 2>inspire her, right?

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<v Speaker 2>Ok. Yeah, I believe, I believe it doesn't matter as

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<v Speaker 2>much a bit more. Now,

0:30:45.800 --> 0:30:47.790
<v Speaker 1>I think she's got to get, get your head out

0:30:47.800 --> 0:30:50.920
<v Speaker 1>of it sometimes and not overthink it maybe. So all

0:30:50.930 --> 0:30:53.040
<v Speaker 1>the best. Let me know. I will love, I'm very invested.

0:30:53.050 --> 0:30:55.160
<v Speaker 1>I want to keep updated with your dating life or,

0:30:55.170 --> 0:30:56.290
<v Speaker 1>you know, I

0:30:56.300 --> 0:30:58.670
<v Speaker 2>have one final question for you before we end things.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, no. Is this,

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<v Speaker 2>do you think that is above or below my data?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my God.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>do that

0:31:10.050 --> 0:31:14.250
<v Speaker 1>actually, I think, I think that you are very compatible. Yeah,

0:31:14.260 --> 0:31:15.810
<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of people, I think that you

0:31:15.819 --> 0:31:21.520
<v Speaker 1>balance each other out. Yeah. And you obviously make her laugh. Oh, no, no,

0:31:21.589 --> 0:31:21.770
<v Speaker 1>I know.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it true? He does sometimes, but I would say

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<v Speaker 1>he's very funny. He's funny to get more than every Singaporean.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not driven enough for you. LA

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Driving her crazy. That's it. That's the only way. Thank

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<v Speaker 2>you.