1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:01,150 Speaker 1: Hi hazel 2 00:00:01,990 --> 00:00:02,800 Speaker 2: and I'm Jermaine 3 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:05,090 Speaker 1: and for the last time this isn't thank you so 4 00:00:05,090 --> 00:00:08,549 Speaker 1: much for tuning into clarity's. 5 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 2: Yes, 6 00:00:11,690 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 2: okay. 7 00:00:12,740 --> 00:00:15,470 Speaker 2: It's such a bittersweet feeling, you know, but we really 8 00:00:15,470 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 2: hope that you guys had an excellent new Year. I 9 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:20,460 Speaker 2: hope we had an excellent New Year because it's actually 10 00:00:20,460 --> 00:00:22,060 Speaker 2: november now when we're filming this 11 00:00:22,540 --> 00:00:24,849 Speaker 1: Singles Their 11 November. 12 00:00:24,850 --> 00:00:27,940 Speaker 2: Alright, 11, 11, happy new year, everybody 13 00:00:27,950 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: Happy New Year to you all. Thank you so much 14 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:31,510 Speaker 1: for your support thus far. 15 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:32,980 Speaker 2: Yeah, and thank you for being with us for the 16 00:00:32,979 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 2: last one year. You know, I can't believe we've recorded 17 00:00:35,450 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 2: more than 30 episodes since we started. This 18 00:00:38,450 --> 00:00:42,550 Speaker 1: Is 12 episodes per season on our 36 plus our 19 00:00:42,550 --> 00:00:46,420 Speaker 1: harsh harsh episodes on YouTube. That's true than 40 episodes already. 20 00:00:46,430 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, so if you haven't caught up, make sure you 21 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:50,510 Speaker 2: go catch up on all the old episodes. But I 22 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 2: always think back, you know, to the very first time 23 00:00:53,050 --> 00:00:56,170 Speaker 2: we met each other, Do you remember that meeting with 24 00:00:56,180 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 2: our producer? And that's right at the one off you 25 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 2: all think of like what do we think of each 26 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 2: other at that time we were a little shy, reserved, 27 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:08,040 Speaker 2: you know, we didn't really know what we're getting ourselves into. 28 00:01:08,050 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: So this is really 29 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:12,709 Speaker 1: a huge leap of faith, the entire harsh podcast and 30 00:01:12,709 --> 00:01:12,850 Speaker 1: it's 31 00:01:12,850 --> 00:01:15,040 Speaker 2: all because of everyone that listens in like you engage 32 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:16,990 Speaker 2: with us and we hope we can do more for 33 00:01:16,990 --> 00:01:19,810 Speaker 2: you in the future. But for now let's look back 34 00:01:19,819 --> 00:01:23,230 Speaker 2: at some of the good memories and maybe bad memories. Okay, 35 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:26,270 Speaker 1: 21, it's important to reflect like what Rachel one of 36 00:01:26,270 --> 00:01:27,660 Speaker 1: our guests have mentioned. 37 00:01:27,780 --> 00:01:30,050 Speaker 2: Exactly. I mean, so many things have happened. 38 00:01:30,140 --> 00:01:35,860 Speaker 2: Um, breakup road accidents, award nominations. All crazy butter 39 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:40,950 Speaker 2: your year went like up down. That's why she's also 40 00:01:40,950 --> 00:01:43,260 Speaker 2: the only one amongst us who takes the roller coasters. 41 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:44,890 Speaker 1: Oh, okay, Okay. 42 00:01:46,580 --> 00:01:49,910 Speaker 2: Really do. And by this time when this episode is out, 43 00:01:49,910 --> 00:01:53,660 Speaker 2: we would have gone on our first besties trip together. 44 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:55,660 Speaker 2: We hope that it went well. 45 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:59,810 Speaker 2: Yeah. Apart from looking at our own, you know, 2021, 46 00:01:59,810 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 2: we're also going to look at how different, you know, 47 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:06,050 Speaker 2: women were impacted in Singapore in the whole year as well, 48 00:02:06,060 --> 00:02:08,710 Speaker 2: but the pandemic, that's right. And so let's just start, 49 00:02:08,710 --> 00:02:11,860 Speaker 2: with I think how our own year went first in 50 00:02:11,860 --> 00:02:12,060 Speaker 2: full 51 00:02:12,060 --> 00:02:15,450 Speaker 1: Honesty in full and see how did 2021 52 00:02:15,740 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 1: pause by. 53 00:02:16,940 --> 00:02:20,830 Speaker 1: How was it for us? For me? Like we mentioned 54 00:02:20,830 --> 00:02:23,150 Speaker 1: just now, it's a full roller coaster. Right, right. Break 55 00:02:23,150 --> 00:02:23,450 Speaker 1: up 56 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 1: Road accidents, more than one award nominations. Yeah, but I 57 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: think the biggest takeaway for me is really the break 58 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 1: up with Jourdan. Like it happened at the start of 2021. 59 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:35,740 Speaker 1: It taught me so much open new doors. I never 60 00:02:35,740 --> 00:02:36,950 Speaker 1: thought that I could be 61 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:41,010 Speaker 1: pursuing my own apartment. If not for the breakup. Like 62 00:02:41,010 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 1: this never ever crossed my mind. And the breakup taught 63 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:46,730 Speaker 1: me to be a bit more digit lint, a bit 64 00:02:46,730 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 1: more disciplined when it comes to my career 65 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:53,630 Speaker 1: road accidents. Oh gosh, that 66 00:02:53,630 --> 00:02:57,260 Speaker 2: is a sorry, I cannot laugh. Well, 67 00:02:57,260 --> 00:02:58,910 Speaker 1: why are they laughing? Okay. I have to tell the story. 68 00:02:58,910 --> 00:03:00,630 Speaker 1: I've never told this in the harsh podcast, but since 69 00:03:00,630 --> 00:03:02,650 Speaker 1: we had the last episode, right, you know 70 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:07,679 Speaker 1: this happened on the highway, I was in the middle lane, okay. 71 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:10,010 Speaker 1: And then I didn't really go to the right muslim 72 00:03:10,010 --> 00:03:12,660 Speaker 1: where the traffic was the fastest, right 73 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:14,810 Speaker 1: to the right of me, right there was this car. 74 00:03:14,810 --> 00:03:16,810 Speaker 1: I don't know what the driver was high on. I 75 00:03:16,810 --> 00:03:18,459 Speaker 2: want to give the punchline can. 76 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:25,460 Speaker 2: So she got hit, but she run 77 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:29,750 Speaker 1: guys. I was, I was so overwhelmed when the car 78 00:03:29,750 --> 00:03:31,970 Speaker 1: hit me right, I lost control of my steering wheel. 79 00:03:31,980 --> 00:03:33,700 Speaker 1: I felt like I was in the Channel eight drama. 80 00:03:33,700 --> 00:03:36,100 Speaker 1: You know, I was just like doing this. Oh gosh, 81 00:03:36,100 --> 00:03:38,420 Speaker 1: so these things, they're doing the drama unreal. I thought 82 00:03:38,420 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: just for sure, but that was me, you know? And 83 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:41,950 Speaker 1: when I finally got my control back, 84 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:44,500 Speaker 1: I went back into my middle lane thankfully there were 85 00:03:44,500 --> 00:03:46,270 Speaker 1: no cars on the left and I didn't hit into 86 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:47,050 Speaker 1: any other cars 87 00:03:47,140 --> 00:03:50,089 Speaker 1: when I found that, okay, the controls back or should 88 00:03:50,090 --> 00:03:51,750 Speaker 1: I stop? Should I go? Should I stop? Should I 89 00:03:51,750 --> 00:03:54,450 Speaker 1: go By the time I realized I was really out 90 00:03:54,450 --> 00:03:55,180 Speaker 1: of the highway because 91 00:03:55,180 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 2: traffic was just going along and you felt so much 92 00:03:57,640 --> 00:03:59,540 Speaker 2: pressure and overwhelmed at the time. Exactly. 93 00:03:59,540 --> 00:04:01,830 Speaker 1: And so the traffic police got involved right? Because I 94 00:04:01,830 --> 00:04:03,860 Speaker 1: ran I didn't stop to see who hit me. But 95 00:04:03,860 --> 00:04:04,450 Speaker 1: you got hit, 96 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:06,690 Speaker 1: I got hit. I know I'm supposed to be able 97 00:04:06,690 --> 00:04:10,350 Speaker 1: to claim some damages from the other party. I think 98 00:04:10,350 --> 00:04:12,270 Speaker 1: the other party ran away as well. Like I think 99 00:04:12,270 --> 00:04:14,340 Speaker 1: we were both just so shocked because it wasn't his 100 00:04:14,340 --> 00:04:17,470 Speaker 1: fault right that the accident happened and we both just overwhelmed. 101 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:20,130 Speaker 1: So we got a teepee involved and guess what? I 102 00:04:20,130 --> 00:04:22,910 Speaker 1: got a letter just last night, the letter got delivered 103 00:04:22,910 --> 00:04:25,940 Speaker 1: to my place. The T. P. Actually said that they 104 00:04:25,940 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 1: have done their research and they couldn't find 105 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:33,340 Speaker 1: that vehicle. So I got hit Iran I'm not getting 106 00:04:33,339 --> 00:04:37,130 Speaker 1: any compensation but you know what lesson learned lesson learned 107 00:04:37,130 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 2: and it's important to forgive yourself. Right, correct. If you 108 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,180 Speaker 2: are listening right now and you have any information on 109 00:04:42,180 --> 00:04:45,140 Speaker 2: the situation, please give us a call. You know who 110 00:04:45,140 --> 00:04:45,370 Speaker 2: it 111 00:04:45,370 --> 00:04:48,140 Speaker 1: Is. Isen't the highlight of my year long. I think 112 00:04:48,150 --> 00:04:51,460 Speaker 1: apart from the breakup, the biggest takeaway from 2021 is 113 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:52,930 Speaker 1: zero and jimmy. 114 00:04:52,940 --> 00:04:55,390 Speaker 2: Oh I was like why are you pointing to? 115 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:59,099 Speaker 1: It's my two girls for sure. I think I think 116 00:04:59,100 --> 00:05:01,839 Speaker 1: this year has been oh it's so different for all 117 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:04,980 Speaker 1: of us harsh really brought us together. Like we meet 118 00:05:04,990 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 1: every single day. How are you guys not sick of me? 119 00:05:08,089 --> 00:05:11,190 Speaker 1: I'm not sick of you girls. Like I wish we 120 00:05:11,190 --> 00:05:11,350 Speaker 1: could 121 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:16,060 Speaker 2: do exactly what's going on. 122 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:19,700 Speaker 2: But you know what? I think there are bigger and 123 00:05:19,700 --> 00:05:21,860 Speaker 2: better things in our future as well and even when 124 00:05:21,860 --> 00:05:23,950 Speaker 2: it comes to hush and we can't wait to share 125 00:05:23,950 --> 00:05:26,780 Speaker 2: more with you in due time. Zira, how is your 126 00:05:26,779 --> 00:05:29,780 Speaker 2: 2021 was a turbulent now that I have to think 127 00:05:29,779 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 2: about it. It feels like a blur. I know I 128 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:33,350 Speaker 2: had a good time. 129 00:05:33,740 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 2: Yes, it's always a good time when I'm in the house. 130 00:05:40,140 --> 00:05:43,779 Speaker 2: I know I had many good moments, you can say 131 00:05:43,779 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 2: I had a good year. I had a great year. 132 00:05:46,250 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 2: I love that. I got to see the spaces every 133 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 2: day and they really, honestly right, they contributed to this 134 00:05:53,690 --> 00:05:55,860 Speaker 2: great year so greatly 135 00:05:56,040 --> 00:06:00,180 Speaker 2: really, because when we first started season one, we were 136 00:06:00,180 --> 00:06:02,470 Speaker 2: not that close to be honest, like, you know, we 137 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 2: were in this project together, we worked together, 138 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:08,510 Speaker 2: But somehow in 2021 we've become attached at the hip 139 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:12,410 Speaker 1: and jimmy and I even got like, matching tattoos. Oh, 140 00:06:12,410 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 1: that's 141 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:17,730 Speaker 2: True. yeah, let's talk to me for life, sorry for 142 00:06:17,730 --> 00:06:20,300 Speaker 2: life for life and honestly, we know so much about 143 00:06:20,300 --> 00:06:21,660 Speaker 2: each other that we really 144 00:06:21,740 --> 00:06:26,540 Speaker 2: cannot never be friends. We will be all harsh ladies. Yes, 145 00:06:26,550 --> 00:06:29,530 Speaker 2: but I think because of harsh and because of a 146 00:06:29,529 --> 00:06:31,550 Speaker 2: lot of things that happen career wise, I, 147 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:34,570 Speaker 2: I found a new lease of life, like I feel 148 00:06:34,570 --> 00:06:37,790 Speaker 2: so excited to be living life and thanks to these 149 00:06:37,790 --> 00:06:39,650 Speaker 2: two girls as well. I mean zura is someone who 150 00:06:39,650 --> 00:06:42,430 Speaker 2: is very chill, very calm. I learned so much from her. 151 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:44,050 Speaker 2: Like why you so angry all the time. Don't have 152 00:06:44,050 --> 00:06:46,890 Speaker 2: to be right. And Hazy is always pushing me every 153 00:06:46,890 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 2: day with my career and all that. So yeah, I 154 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 2: think even itself is very glad that I have these 155 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:53,810 Speaker 2: two friends now and he's like okay then I don't 156 00:06:53,820 --> 00:06:55,660 Speaker 2: spend so much time with you 157 00:06:55,940 --> 00:06:58,370 Speaker 2: Actually I always feel very bad. I always feel like, 158 00:06:58,370 --> 00:07:00,210 Speaker 2: oh my God is going to score us one day 159 00:07:00,210 --> 00:07:04,070 Speaker 2: for like always keeping her occupied. I always feel like 160 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:05,729 Speaker 2: it's going to be sick of our faces. I think 161 00:07:05,730 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 2: he's happy about it. 162 00:07:07,490 --> 00:07:10,270 Speaker 1: He even like helped us with this christmas song that 163 00:07:10,270 --> 00:07:12,950 Speaker 1: we made when we were in L. A. Yes. 164 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:13,690 Speaker 1: Amazing. 165 00:07:13,690 --> 00:07:16,580 Speaker 2: Amazing time. But also I think 2021 came with a 166 00:07:16,580 --> 00:07:20,110 Speaker 2: lot of challenges. But I think they were necessary challenges 167 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:22,630 Speaker 2: in the sense that um a lot of things happened 168 00:07:22,630 --> 00:07:26,050 Speaker 2: family wise. But this was the year where we kind 169 00:07:26,050 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 2: of had a conclusion to it. And everyone got closer. 170 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:31,830 Speaker 2: Everyone bonded better and we're just looking forward to a 171 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:32,750 Speaker 2: good 2022. 172 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:34,950 Speaker 1: Okay. So if we were to say one of the 173 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: greatest challenge that um 174 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 1: 2021 presented us with, what would your answer be? 175 00:07:41,540 --> 00:07:44,060 Speaker 2: Mm hmm me? Mm hmm 176 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:48,490 Speaker 2: I think this year while I had very high highs, 177 00:07:48,500 --> 00:07:50,610 Speaker 2: they weren't very low low is allowed to be honest. 178 00:07:50,610 --> 00:07:52,590 Speaker 2: They were okay. Maybe they are very low lowest, but 179 00:07:52,590 --> 00:07:54,690 Speaker 2: maybe it's just me. And to me it's like, okay, 180 00:07:54,700 --> 00:07:56,850 Speaker 2: all right. But 181 00:07:57,340 --> 00:08:00,620 Speaker 2: Actually in 2021 I went through a very rough time. Very, 182 00:08:00,620 --> 00:08:04,150 Speaker 2: very tough time in my marriage and it was very hot. 183 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:07,060 Speaker 2: It was very tough. It was 184 00:08:07,540 --> 00:08:10,820 Speaker 2: a difficult couple of weeks or maybe months I would 185 00:08:10,820 --> 00:08:11,260 Speaker 2: say 186 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 2: um that I kept myself for a long time. I 187 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 2: only shared with them. Maybe like, you know, weeks 188 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: after it passed as well. Because 189 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:23,100 Speaker 2: for me it was just very hard to reiterate and 190 00:08:23,100 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 2: just tell that story because it was a lot of questions. 191 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:29,970 Speaker 2: It was a lot of where do we go? Um 192 00:08:29,980 --> 00:08:30,660 Speaker 2: but 193 00:08:30,740 --> 00:08:32,559 Speaker 2: happy to report that everything is good. 194 00:08:32,740 --> 00:08:33,660 Speaker 2: Yes, 195 00:08:34,340 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 2: yes. 196 00:08:35,940 --> 00:08:37,449 Speaker 1: And thank you for sharing in the past. 197 00:08:37,460 --> 00:08:43,010 Speaker 2: Beautiful. Beautiful. You need to have a ritual, correct? Yeah. 198 00:08:43,020 --> 00:08:46,790 Speaker 2: But I think that you know, I'm so proud of you. Honestly, 199 00:08:46,790 --> 00:08:49,510 Speaker 2: I'm so proud of you for confronting your fears confronting 200 00:08:49,510 --> 00:08:52,070 Speaker 2: you know what was there and coming out the other side. 201 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:55,209 Speaker 1: Right. And it takes two hands to clap. Also very 202 00:08:55,210 --> 00:08:57,270 Speaker 1: lucky you have a strong partner in this with you. 203 00:08:57,280 --> 00:08:58,740 Speaker 1: Hazy is his number one fan. 204 00:08:58,750 --> 00:09:01,390 Speaker 2: It's true. Absolutely. 205 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: Alright. Jimmy. What about you? Greatest Challenge of 2021. 206 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:09,380 Speaker 2: Honestly, this year has been a lot easier than the 207 00:09:09,380 --> 00:09:13,030 Speaker 2: two years before that 2019, was so shitty that even 208 00:09:13,030 --> 00:09:16,069 Speaker 2: though shitty things happened in 2021, it was still brighter 209 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:19,010 Speaker 2: in general, but I think one of the biggest challenges 210 00:09:19,010 --> 00:09:19,450 Speaker 2: was 211 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 2: honestly, 212 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:24,260 Speaker 2: it was working on myself, like it's very difficult to 213 00:09:24,260 --> 00:09:27,100 Speaker 2: see yourself and say like, I don't like that about myself, 214 00:09:27,110 --> 00:09:29,030 Speaker 2: you know, how can I change that? And I'm talking 215 00:09:29,030 --> 00:09:31,699 Speaker 2: about fillers or Botox or whatever, right? I'm talking about 216 00:09:31,700 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 2: personality wise, so I had to figure out how to 217 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 2: be a better sister, a better, you know, daughter as 218 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:39,130 Speaker 2: well to my parents. I feel like I might have 219 00:09:39,130 --> 00:09:41,150 Speaker 2: let them down in the years passed before. 220 00:09:41,340 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 2: Um and 221 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:43,719 Speaker 2: yeah, I just want to be a better partner, a 222 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:46,660 Speaker 2: better person overall. So it was hard to confront that 223 00:09:46,660 --> 00:09:49,380 Speaker 2: part of myself and I was very embarrassed as well, 224 00:09:49,390 --> 00:09:51,110 Speaker 2: but I think it was necessary. 225 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:51,860 Speaker 1: What about you? 226 00:09:52,340 --> 00:09:53,449 Speaker 1: For me? I think 227 00:09:54,140 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 1: zero. And Jeremy knows that after the break up that 228 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:59,349 Speaker 1: it's this void in my heart that I've been trying 229 00:09:59,350 --> 00:10:03,260 Speaker 1: very hard to fail because previously maybe I've been relationship hopping. 230 00:10:03,270 --> 00:10:06,660 Speaker 1: Like I've never really been alone alone. I know that 231 00:10:06,660 --> 00:10:08,870 Speaker 1: this is important, but it takes some time for me 232 00:10:08,870 --> 00:10:10,860 Speaker 1: to really get used to it. Get used to going 233 00:10:10,860 --> 00:10:11,660 Speaker 1: home too. 234 00:10:11,940 --> 00:10:14,359 Speaker 1: An empty room. It's just me, myself and my thoughts 235 00:10:14,540 --> 00:10:17,770 Speaker 1: that really was very tough for me and there were 236 00:10:17,770 --> 00:10:20,559 Speaker 1: many sleepless nights. I'm not gonna lie. It's a tough 237 00:10:20,570 --> 00:10:22,850 Speaker 1: barrier to cross, I would say. And I don't think 238 00:10:22,860 --> 00:10:25,950 Speaker 1: I can do that very well now actually, but it's 239 00:10:25,950 --> 00:10:29,380 Speaker 1: getting better and I'm getting used to this like independence 240 00:10:29,390 --> 00:10:32,110 Speaker 1: and I think it's very important to first love and 241 00:10:32,110 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 1: care for myself before I can 242 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 1: progress in all aspects of my life, 243 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:40,270 Speaker 1: so I don't know how single people do it, but 244 00:10:40,270 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 1: I'm learning, I really am learning, you're not a single 245 00:10:43,730 --> 00:10:47,490 Speaker 2: in a relationship with us, you're in a menage with 246 00:10:47,500 --> 00:10:49,339 Speaker 2: the two of us, you know, but I mean look 247 00:10:49,340 --> 00:10:51,660 Speaker 2: at how much, you know your life changed from the 248 00:10:51,660 --> 00:10:54,849 Speaker 2: start of last year to the end of last year, 249 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:58,660 Speaker 2: I think you gain so much more confidence being alone. 250 00:10:58,740 --> 00:11:01,810 Speaker 2: Um you even moved out, living by yourself and all 251 00:11:01,809 --> 00:11:03,990 Speaker 2: that and like having the time of your life. Honestly 252 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:04,530 Speaker 2: I 253 00:11:04,540 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 1: quite enjoy that, but I also find that they also 254 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:09,370 Speaker 1: keep telling me like I have to take a chill pill, 255 00:11:09,380 --> 00:11:11,090 Speaker 1: I had to stop working so hard and this is 256 00:11:11,090 --> 00:11:14,099 Speaker 1: something I struggle with. Like honestly, I think I have issues, 257 00:11:14,110 --> 00:11:16,910 Speaker 1: I am a workaholic, I think I need to stop, 258 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:18,670 Speaker 1: but I'm still working on that we are all a 259 00:11:18,670 --> 00:11:20,050 Speaker 1: work in progress right? 260 00:11:20,059 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 2: Exactly, it's very easy for us to turn to work 261 00:11:23,809 --> 00:11:26,229 Speaker 2: so that you know we don't look at other aspects 262 00:11:26,230 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 2: of our lives 263 00:11:27,170 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 1: so just very quickly. I'm just curious when all of 264 00:11:30,490 --> 00:11:33,609 Speaker 1: those things were happening in your marriage and you didn't 265 00:11:33,620 --> 00:11:35,959 Speaker 1: really confide in us, How did you cope with it? 266 00:11:37,340 --> 00:11:38,860 Speaker 2: Um 267 00:11:40,140 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 2: honestly, I feel like it was a very strange time. 268 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:45,610 Speaker 2: And it wasn't just the marriage because a lot of 269 00:11:45,610 --> 00:11:47,250 Speaker 2: it I had to look inwards. 270 00:11:47,740 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. And a lot of it was within myself. There 271 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:52,429 Speaker 2: was a lot of questioning and there was a lot 272 00:11:52,429 --> 00:11:55,270 Speaker 2: of things that, you know, we're not addressed maybe for 273 00:11:55,270 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 2: 20 years of my life that was coming back. And 274 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:02,140 Speaker 2: it was showing up in my marriage. So it was 275 00:12:02,140 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 2: really a time where, you know, very, very honestly, we 276 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:05,560 Speaker 2: took some time apart. 277 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:07,050 Speaker 2: Mm hmm. 278 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:08,450 Speaker 2: Last year. 279 00:12:09,340 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 2: And 280 00:12:10,140 --> 00:12:11,900 Speaker 2: and I'll tell you there was one day, right? I 281 00:12:11,900 --> 00:12:15,440 Speaker 2: think maybe probably one of my lowest days. Um I 282 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:18,790 Speaker 2: had a lot of work to do that day. And 283 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:21,450 Speaker 2: I was also at this point where I just felt like, 284 00:12:21,450 --> 00:12:24,620 Speaker 2: you know what? I need help. Like I need help 285 00:12:24,620 --> 00:12:28,630 Speaker 2: beyond talking to people. Um I don't know what to do. 286 00:12:28,630 --> 00:12:29,660 Speaker 2: I don't know where to go. 287 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 2: And so I had quite urgently arranged for 288 00:12:33,940 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 2: um a meeting with with enterprise. 289 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:40,300 Speaker 2: And because I had so much work to do that day. 290 00:12:40,300 --> 00:12:43,170 Speaker 2: I had almost no time to take this call. And 291 00:12:43,170 --> 00:12:45,140 Speaker 2: it was just this one hour that I had while 292 00:12:45,140 --> 00:12:47,719 Speaker 2: in medical. And I took the call at Melbourne. 293 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:49,059 Speaker 2: Mm hmm. 294 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 2: In between what like in between the world I was 295 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:54,140 Speaker 2: just like, you know what I need this one hour. 296 00:12:54,150 --> 00:12:56,210 Speaker 2: And I that was the first time I spoke with 297 00:12:56,210 --> 00:12:59,729 Speaker 2: a therapist and it was nothing to do with. Well, 298 00:12:59,730 --> 00:13:01,620 Speaker 2: it was a little bit of the marriage, but it 299 00:13:01,620 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 2: really was just about me. And it was a time 300 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 2: where I felt like, you know, um 301 00:13:07,540 --> 00:13:10,790 Speaker 2: well both parties obviously have faults and you know, we 302 00:13:10,790 --> 00:13:13,170 Speaker 2: we are in this thing that we don't really know 303 00:13:13,170 --> 00:13:14,650 Speaker 2: where to go. But 304 00:13:15,740 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 2: I felt like I need to figure who I am 305 00:13:18,970 --> 00:13:22,530 Speaker 2: and you know, solved these unsolved issues, right? That I 306 00:13:22,530 --> 00:13:24,510 Speaker 2: never thought were issues because we just, you know, sweep 307 00:13:24,510 --> 00:13:26,809 Speaker 2: it away or we just find ways to deal with it. 308 00:13:26,820 --> 00:13:29,990 Speaker 2: But it really comes out like in in other forms. 309 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:33,330 Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Maybe because you had compartmentalized it for so 310 00:13:33,330 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 2: much of your life that 311 00:13:34,540 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 2: you know, it's it's sort of like coming back to 312 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:38,140 Speaker 2: bite you in the right 313 00:13:38,150 --> 00:13:39,959 Speaker 1: and you don't know what to do about it. 314 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:43,980 Speaker 1: Alright. So negative things aside was the best thing that's 315 00:13:43,980 --> 00:13:47,460 Speaker 1: happened to you in 2021. Shall we all shout out 316 00:13:47,460 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 1: our answers on the count of three? 317 00:13:49,540 --> 00:13:52,450 Speaker 2: Wait, what is it? The same answer? Okay. It's the 318 00:13:52,450 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 2: same answer that hasn't happened. 319 00:13:54,140 --> 00:13:55,670 Speaker 1: No, 320 00:13:55,670 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 2: no, that's not the one that's not the one. Not 321 00:13:58,280 --> 00:13:59,340 Speaker 1: for me. You 322 00:13:59,340 --> 00:14:01,209 Speaker 2: say it's okay for 323 00:14:01,210 --> 00:14:04,910 Speaker 1: me? Yes. It's moving out of having my own space 324 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 1: even though it's just a rented room for now. But 325 00:14:07,809 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 1: well I'm happy I go home. I get to do 326 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:11,230 Speaker 1: whatever I want to get to walk around naked in 327 00:14:11,230 --> 00:14:12,069 Speaker 1: my own room. 328 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:17,540 Speaker 2: It's liberating, liberating. 329 00:14:17,550 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 1: Yes, that's the word is liberating and I enjoy this freedom. 330 00:14:21,410 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 2: I think the best thing to come out of my 331 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 2: 2021 was hazel's haircut when she cut her bank shot. 332 00:14:27,410 --> 00:14:30,630 Speaker 2: It's iconic. And honestly I look at her, I just, 333 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:34,150 Speaker 2: I'm full of love. Yeah. 334 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:36,979 Speaker 2: The best thing to come out of 2021, I would 335 00:14:36,980 --> 00:14:38,050 Speaker 2: have to say 336 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:43,010 Speaker 2: Progression in Korea because at the end of 2020 I 337 00:14:43,010 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 2: had just started on my own show. I was still 338 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:49,260 Speaker 2: finding my footing and all that right now. Okay, and 339 00:14:49,260 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 2: this year I feel like a lot of things, you know, 340 00:14:52,090 --> 00:14:54,700 Speaker 2: came by that I never thought would come by this early. 341 00:14:54,710 --> 00:14:56,580 Speaker 2: I thought I would have to wait a lot more 342 00:14:56,580 --> 00:14:58,660 Speaker 2: for these opportunities and 343 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:01,050 Speaker 2: I'm very happy. I'm proud of you baby. 344 00:15:01,050 --> 00:15:03,700 Speaker 1: I'm proud, I'm proud of you. I'm proud of you. 345 00:15:03,710 --> 00:15:05,950 Speaker 1: I'm proud of you for suggesting. 346 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 2: I think the best thing that came out of it 347 00:15:09,970 --> 00:15:14,980 Speaker 2: is that I'm happy. I'm happy at work. I'm happy 348 00:15:14,980 --> 00:15:17,650 Speaker 2: at home. I'm happy with my friends. 349 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 2: I 350 00:15:19,140 --> 00:15:19,650 Speaker 2: oh, 351 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 2: I take every day as it comes, 352 00:15:24,540 --> 00:15:26,890 Speaker 2: I'm happy every day. She 353 00:15:26,890 --> 00:15:28,390 Speaker 1: really easy, She's not lying. 354 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:32,610 Speaker 2: We can feel it. You know what another great thing 355 00:15:32,610 --> 00:15:36,750 Speaker 2: that happened for hush specifically if you guys remember at 356 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:40,410 Speaker 2: our peak, right? We were number 14 on Spotify Singapore's 357 00:15:40,410 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 2: podcast charts 358 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:47,530 Speaker 2: and # five Apple podcast relationships. We 359 00:15:47,530 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 1: really put in so much hard work and effort into 360 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:51,550 Speaker 1: every episode. The team takes two hours to set up 361 00:15:51,550 --> 00:15:53,150 Speaker 1: this setup that you see here 362 00:15:53,150 --> 00:15:56,060 Speaker 2: every time every single and we even had like hush hush, 363 00:15:56,060 --> 00:15:58,180 Speaker 2: which you know, we did a couple of things, We 364 00:15:58,180 --> 00:16:01,020 Speaker 2: tried things. I even went for a pap smear. Okay, 365 00:16:01,020 --> 00:16:02,500 Speaker 2: let me just say I didn't I didn't say this 366 00:16:02,500 --> 00:16:04,810 Speaker 2: on harsh before because I didn't know if I should, 367 00:16:04,820 --> 00:16:06,930 Speaker 2: I went for the pap smear test and I actually 368 00:16:06,930 --> 00:16:11,380 Speaker 2: tested positive for HPV. Okay, alright, so please go and 369 00:16:11,380 --> 00:16:13,700 Speaker 2: take your pap smear test because if I didn't go 370 00:16:13,700 --> 00:16:17,350 Speaker 2: for hush hush, I wouldn't even have known. Yeah, so yeah, 371 00:16:17,350 --> 00:16:19,140 Speaker 2: but it's nothing serious. But yeah, please go and get 372 00:16:19,140 --> 00:16:19,989 Speaker 2: your pap smears. 373 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 1: Um Alright, so having shared so much, I think many 374 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:26,690 Speaker 1: people out there, women men listening to a harsh podcast, 375 00:16:26,700 --> 00:16:30,420 Speaker 1: you also have had your time during 2021. Be good 376 00:16:30,420 --> 00:16:31,660 Speaker 1: or bad times. So 377 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:35,330 Speaker 1: I think the pandemic really affected many people, women especially 378 00:16:35,330 --> 00:16:37,150 Speaker 1: being work from home or like if you're working from 379 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:40,220 Speaker 1: office as well, it must have taken a toll on you. Yeah, 380 00:16:40,220 --> 00:16:40,290 Speaker 1: I 381 00:16:40,290 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 2: think for women, especially because a lot of things depend 382 00:16:44,730 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 2: on women still in this day and age being the 383 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:50,070 Speaker 2: caregiver and all that, A lot of stress, you know, 384 00:16:50,070 --> 00:16:52,729 Speaker 2: mental stress and all that and I think there were 385 00:16:52,730 --> 00:16:54,350 Speaker 2: really some people that struggled a lot. 386 00:16:54,540 --> 00:16:58,580 Speaker 2: Even our own President Madam Halimah Yako actually said and 387 00:16:58,590 --> 00:17:02,270 Speaker 2: acknowledged that 2021 was very difficult for women. I think 388 00:17:02,270 --> 00:17:05,050 Speaker 2: it was just, you know, having to confront everything in 389 00:17:05,050 --> 00:17:08,649 Speaker 2: one space. Yeah. Which put a lot of pressure on 390 00:17:08,650 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 2: women and you know, like Jimmy said, even 391 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:14,150 Speaker 2: our president Salam Ayako, she said that, you know, while 392 00:17:14,150 --> 00:17:16,409 Speaker 2: they are, you know, as we do more stuff, you know, 393 00:17:16,410 --> 00:17:20,160 Speaker 2: caregiving everything has moved online. You know, that women find themselves, 394 00:17:20,170 --> 00:17:23,830 Speaker 2: it's a struggle to juggle work home and everything when 395 00:17:23,830 --> 00:17:24,270 Speaker 2: you know, the 396 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:29,030 Speaker 2: the lines are blood and boundaries are crossed. And she 397 00:17:29,030 --> 00:17:32,170 Speaker 2: even said that women are more likely to become victims 398 00:17:32,180 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 2: of domestic violence because a lot of this is unreported 399 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:37,250 Speaker 2: and if you're not going out and you're staying home 400 00:17:37,250 --> 00:17:39,399 Speaker 2: all day, you might not have anyone to turn to. 401 00:17:39,410 --> 00:17:41,650 Speaker 2: And I just wanted to bring up like this story 402 00:17:41,660 --> 00:17:45,310 Speaker 2: came up, you know, a couple of weeks ago in 403 00:17:45,310 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 2: the US, there was this girl right, who was in 404 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:49,970 Speaker 2: a car and people were driving past her on the highway. 405 00:17:49,970 --> 00:17:52,140 Speaker 2: She was in the backseat and she kept doing this 406 00:17:52,140 --> 00:17:55,630 Speaker 2: hand signal. She tucked her thumb into a palm and 407 00:17:55,630 --> 00:17:57,270 Speaker 2: closed all four fingers over it. 408 00:17:57,340 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 2: So it's like she was waving to people. But she wasn't, 409 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:03,540 Speaker 2: this is actually a hand sign that was popularized by 410 00:18:03,540 --> 00:18:07,350 Speaker 2: Tiktok for domestic abuse to call for help. And someone 411 00:18:07,350 --> 00:18:10,570 Speaker 2: had seen someone saw her do this and remembered it 412 00:18:10,570 --> 00:18:13,360 Speaker 2: from Tiktok called the police. They found her 413 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:16,210 Speaker 2: and apparently her parents had reported her missing two days 414 00:18:16,210 --> 00:18:17,669 Speaker 2: before that. And this guy had 415 00:18:17,740 --> 00:18:18,850 Speaker 2: essentially kidnapped her. 416 00:18:19,540 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. Who is this guy who can 417 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 2: just Randall like a Randall older man who? Yeah, 418 00:18:25,540 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 2: wow, unlawfully imprisoned her. That's what they said. So, yeah, 419 00:18:29,210 --> 00:18:32,820 Speaker 2: very interesting. I think with technology these days, right. Even 420 00:18:32,820 --> 00:18:34,850 Speaker 2: something simple like Tiktok could save lives and who would 421 00:18:34,850 --> 00:18:34,949 Speaker 2: have 422 00:18:34,950 --> 00:18:38,930 Speaker 1: Thought and you know what? According to a study, it 423 00:18:38,930 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 1: actually found that COVID-19 has led to a sharp increase 424 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:43,650 Speaker 1: in anxiety and depression. 425 00:18:43,660 --> 00:18:45,270 Speaker 2: Circuit breaker. 426 00:18:45,540 --> 00:18:48,510 Speaker 2: It was kind of like we had multiple, we have 427 00:18:48,510 --> 00:18:53,380 Speaker 2: multiple circuit breakers, multiple multiple versions, heightened, heightened alert. Yes. Yes, yes. 428 00:18:53,390 --> 00:18:56,060 Speaker 2: So different variations of it. Right. But I think 429 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:59,169 Speaker 2: because of all that and sort of being locked at home, 430 00:18:59,180 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 2: a lot of people had to confront their issues. For example, 431 00:19:02,609 --> 00:19:05,170 Speaker 2: Zura in her marriage. Right. And I think 432 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:07,469 Speaker 2: you are probably one of the lucky ones where you 433 00:19:07,470 --> 00:19:09,420 Speaker 2: put in the work and you came out the other side. 434 00:19:09,430 --> 00:19:12,629 Speaker 2: But I've seen so many marriages sort of crumble over 435 00:19:12,630 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 2: the last two years 436 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:17,650 Speaker 1: or so. And actually, even my parents at home, they 437 00:19:17,650 --> 00:19:19,860 Speaker 1: both had to be working from home. Right? Sometimes my 438 00:19:19,859 --> 00:19:21,429 Speaker 1: father has no work and he has to be at 439 00:19:21,430 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 1: home as well. 440 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:25,580 Speaker 1: I do see them argue a lot more. But thankfully 441 00:19:25,580 --> 00:19:27,300 Speaker 1: for them as well, they came out the other side, 442 00:19:27,310 --> 00:19:29,660 Speaker 1: they managed to go through the differences and 443 00:19:29,740 --> 00:19:33,670 Speaker 1: they managed to emerge stronger hopefully. Yeah, I think, you know, 444 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:35,680 Speaker 1: a pandemic is always a test of our limits, but 445 00:19:35,690 --> 00:19:38,610 Speaker 1: it's always how we handle the situations and circumstances. 446 00:19:38,619 --> 00:19:41,690 Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean we don't know what's to come in life. Honestly, 447 00:19:41,690 --> 00:19:44,140 Speaker 2: we now we're hoping it will become endemic and all that. 448 00:19:44,140 --> 00:19:45,850 Speaker 2: But yeah, we just hope that, 449 00:19:46,340 --> 00:19:48,590 Speaker 2: You know, through this pandemic, you have learned some things 450 00:19:48,590 --> 00:19:51,710 Speaker 2: about yourself and you can apply that to good use. Yeah. 451 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:53,879 Speaker 2: And you know, the entire pandemic was just very hard 452 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:56,050 Speaker 2: on everybody. I feel like maybe it was a little 453 00:19:56,050 --> 00:19:59,640 Speaker 2: bit harder for everyone in 2020 because it was new. 454 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:02,490 Speaker 2: Everybody was adjusting 2021. I think we got a little 455 00:20:02,490 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 2: bit more used to it, which sort of knew how 456 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:07,830 Speaker 2: to navigate our way around it. So it was slightly 457 00:20:07,830 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 2: easier I feel for everybody 458 00:20:09,740 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 2: but it was still a lot because I think for 459 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:16,310 Speaker 2: the first time everybody sort of have to confront reality. 460 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:20,050 Speaker 2: There was no running away. There was no avenues for 461 00:20:20,050 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 2: you to run to. And yeah, it was just a 462 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:23,450 Speaker 2: time where 463 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:28,510 Speaker 2: people had to face it. Exactly. And the sad thing 464 00:20:28,510 --> 00:20:31,540 Speaker 2: is that there were sort of like disappointing things to 465 00:20:31,540 --> 00:20:33,160 Speaker 2: come out of last year as well. I think towards 466 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:34,159 Speaker 2: the end of last year 467 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:38,950 Speaker 2: there was a politician in Singapore who actually came out 468 00:20:38,950 --> 00:20:43,770 Speaker 2: and admitted that she had lied about a sexual assault case, basically, 469 00:20:43,770 --> 00:20:47,150 Speaker 2: she had said in Parliament in itself, she had said that, 470 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:50,300 Speaker 2: oh she accompanied, you know, a sexual assault survivor, like 471 00:20:50,300 --> 00:20:52,830 Speaker 2: to the police station and all that, but it was 472 00:20:52,830 --> 00:20:54,850 Speaker 2: apparently just a story that she read in one of 473 00:20:54,850 --> 00:20:56,659 Speaker 2: these groups shared confidently. 474 00:20:56,740 --> 00:20:59,220 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then she just said she was there, but 475 00:20:59,220 --> 00:21:01,399 Speaker 2: she wasn't. So I think a lot of people lost 476 00:21:01,410 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 2: confidence because of that, which was such a pity because 477 00:21:05,330 --> 00:21:08,639 Speaker 2: it does not discount the story, but I think with 478 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:11,389 Speaker 2: doing that and with people, you know, just slamming you left, 479 00:21:11,390 --> 00:21:14,980 Speaker 2: right center right now, it's sort of discounts the story, 480 00:21:14,980 --> 00:21:16,360 Speaker 2: but the story still 481 00:21:16,820 --> 00:21:20,630 Speaker 2: holds true. Right? Aware, actually said that such behavior only 482 00:21:20,630 --> 00:21:23,859 Speaker 2: sits back advocacy around sexual violence in Singapore. 483 00:21:24,140 --> 00:21:27,429 Speaker 2: Yeah. You're not actually really helping the situation at the 484 00:21:27,430 --> 00:21:30,130 Speaker 2: end of the day, it does not undermine the original matter, 485 00:21:30,130 --> 00:21:33,929 Speaker 2: aware also said, but I think, you know, lying is 486 00:21:33,930 --> 00:21:34,460 Speaker 2: never 487 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:36,730 Speaker 2: something that we should do, right? 488 00:21:36,740 --> 00:21:39,780 Speaker 1: Yeah. So these are some of the negative or disappointing 489 00:21:39,780 --> 00:21:42,490 Speaker 1: things that came out of 2021, but there are also 490 00:21:42,490 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 1: a lot of things that have been good have went well, 491 00:21:46,290 --> 00:21:50,200 Speaker 1: like 2021 was declared the year of celebrating women. 492 00:21:50,210 --> 00:21:52,470 Speaker 2: So this 493 00:21:52,470 --> 00:21:52,770 Speaker 1: is 494 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:57,410 Speaker 1: somewhat helped to create more conversations surrounding women on what 495 00:21:57,410 --> 00:21:59,770 Speaker 1: can be done more collectively, to support 496 00:21:59,940 --> 00:22:01,709 Speaker 1: women. Exactly done more for 497 00:22:01,710 --> 00:22:03,310 Speaker 2: them. I believe there's going to be a white paper 498 00:22:03,310 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 2: coming out this year, early this year, I think our 499 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:09,230 Speaker 2: Prime Minister Lee Hsien loong actually mentioned on how we 500 00:22:09,230 --> 00:22:13,670 Speaker 2: can actually help women more in terms of workplace opportunities, 501 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:16,669 Speaker 2: having more flexibility at work. Well, you know, also taking 502 00:22:16,670 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 2: care of the kids on caregiver support, let's say if 503 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 2: you have to take care of your elderly parents and 504 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:25,020 Speaker 2: it's on you or protection for women and family violence 505 00:22:25,020 --> 00:22:26,459 Speaker 2: as well. So I'm very glad that 506 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:29,820 Speaker 2: we are putting a spotlight on these things, right? 507 00:22:29,820 --> 00:22:31,270 Speaker 1: And you remember that you don't 508 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:34,479 Speaker 1: the total news to talk about the muslim nurses, they 509 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:36,910 Speaker 1: are now allowed to wear pajamas to work. That is great. 510 00:22:36,910 --> 00:22:37,790 Speaker 1: That is such a good step 511 00:22:37,790 --> 00:22:41,190 Speaker 2: forward. Absolutely. And I think, you know, things will continue 512 00:22:41,190 --> 00:22:43,050 Speaker 2: to change for the better. We might also see some 513 00:22:43,050 --> 00:22:45,429 Speaker 2: progress on the egg freezing conversation that we 514 00:22:45,430 --> 00:22:47,460 Speaker 1: have. Yes, freezing of your 515 00:22:47,460 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 2: eggs, right? 516 00:22:48,770 --> 00:22:52,350 Speaker 1: What do we hope for women in general in Singapore? 517 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:54,420 Speaker 2: Actually, there's something that I really hope for, you know, 518 00:22:54,420 --> 00:22:55,550 Speaker 2: and it's that 519 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:59,050 Speaker 2: women would build each other up rather than tear each 520 00:22:59,050 --> 00:23:01,669 Speaker 2: other down, because I think we grew up 521 00:23:02,140 --> 00:23:06,210 Speaker 2: internalizing that women are always in competition right, in like 522 00:23:06,210 --> 00:23:10,170 Speaker 2: a business setting or professional setting, Like we're always competing, 523 00:23:10,180 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 2: but actually, why do we have to, you know? Yeah, 524 00:23:13,369 --> 00:23:17,030 Speaker 2: I think even we think about our radio seniors back 525 00:23:17,030 --> 00:23:20,850 Speaker 2: in the day. I think things were really brutal about that. Yeah, 526 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:25,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. Actually, um one of them shared with me quite 527 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 2: recently that you know, she she had mentioned, it was 528 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,119 Speaker 2: so nice for her to see our friendship as in 529 00:23:31,130 --> 00:23:34,160 Speaker 2: our friendship as in our friendship. So she had said that, 530 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:35,900 Speaker 2: you know, it makes us so happy every time she 531 00:23:35,900 --> 00:23:38,270 Speaker 2: looked at us because she said when she was our 532 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 2: age there was no such thing. She didn't have girlfriends 533 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 2: in radio, 534 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:44,920 Speaker 2: it was almost impossible for them to be friends because 535 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,689 Speaker 2: they were all like, you know, at each other's Necati. 536 00:23:47,690 --> 00:23:51,350 Speaker 2: They were yeah, they were tearing each other up and 537 00:23:51,350 --> 00:23:53,639 Speaker 2: she said it was just terrible. It was a terrible environment. 538 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 2: And she said, you know, it just makes us so 539 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 2: happy to see that that has changed 540 00:23:57,330 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 1: and that this this really hard has really brought us together. 541 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:05,460 Speaker 2: Honestly, every day I walk in the building every day 542 00:24:05,460 --> 00:24:09,169 Speaker 2: the security guard tells me he's like, I'm ready. I'm 543 00:24:09,170 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 2: like I know they'll be like, today you want person 544 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:16,460 Speaker 2: the other two, I'm like coming, 545 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:21,930 Speaker 2: they will take attendance. Hazel is here, Jermaine is here 546 00:24:21,940 --> 00:24:25,300 Speaker 1: So cute. They really, really are so cute. Well I 547 00:24:25,300 --> 00:24:28,590 Speaker 1: hope that, you know, for women to be strong and independent, 548 00:24:28,590 --> 00:24:31,830 Speaker 1: we first have to fix ourselves. So if 2021 was 549 00:24:31,830 --> 00:24:34,670 Speaker 1: a challenge, I hope we grow, we evolved, we learned 550 00:24:34,670 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 1: many things out of it and become a stronger version 551 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:40,090 Speaker 1: of ourselves in 2022 and continue like Jimmy mentioned to 552 00:24:40,090 --> 00:24:42,810 Speaker 1: build the community up to be there for each other. 553 00:24:42,820 --> 00:24:43,450 Speaker 1: Um 554 00:24:44,340 --> 00:24:45,879 Speaker 2: What do you think you're a what do you hope 555 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 2: for our kind? 556 00:24:48,940 --> 00:24:51,390 Speaker 2: I think it's a work in progress no matter what 557 00:24:51,390 --> 00:24:54,050 Speaker 2: year it is, right? I think um something that I 558 00:24:54,060 --> 00:24:57,149 Speaker 2: always share on as well is that I always say, 559 00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 2: you know, as long as you're a better version of 560 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,880 Speaker 2: yourself tomorrow than you are today, you know, that's what 561 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,890 Speaker 2: we want, just like baby steps every single day, right? 562 00:25:04,900 --> 00:25:07,770 Speaker 2: So I just hope that, you know, people would 563 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 2: realized that 564 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:13,810 Speaker 2: there's so much more to life than whatever they're facing 565 00:25:13,820 --> 00:25:16,540 Speaker 2: and I just want everybody to be happy. You know, 566 00:25:16,550 --> 00:25:19,939 Speaker 2: you know, if it's not going to matter in five years, 567 00:25:19,950 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 2: don't let it affect you now. 568 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,940 Speaker 2: If you can't do anything about it right now, don't 569 00:25:24,940 --> 00:25:30,379 Speaker 2: think about it. Go party Party. Yeah, I it makes 570 00:25:30,380 --> 00:25:32,570 Speaker 2: you feel better. I 571 00:25:32,580 --> 00:25:35,020 Speaker 1: always learn so much from her. I kid you not 572 00:25:35,030 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 2: honestly, I don't know whether she's learning the right stuff 573 00:25:38,970 --> 00:25:40,060 Speaker 2: but 574 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:43,419 Speaker 2: it's too late. But yeah, if there's anything you can 575 00:25:43,420 --> 00:25:46,350 Speaker 2: do for yourself in 2022 I think it's go easy 576 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:52,690 Speaker 2: on yourself, Go easy on me baby. Sorry, we're not Adele. 577 00:25:52,700 --> 00:25:55,090 Speaker 2: But yeah, I think it's go easy on yourself, forgive 578 00:25:55,090 --> 00:25:57,419 Speaker 2: yourself and I've had, you know, a lot of young 579 00:25:57,420 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 2: people calling on my show and all that to tell me, 580 00:25:59,940 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 2: you know, they have depression, like they are very sad 581 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:04,050 Speaker 2: about their lives and all that. 582 00:26:04,740 --> 00:26:07,450 Speaker 2: I really hope that that can change, right? Don't put 583 00:26:07,450 --> 00:26:09,869 Speaker 2: so much pressure on yourself, find things that make you 584 00:26:09,869 --> 00:26:12,940 Speaker 2: happy every single day and yeah, bad days are part 585 00:26:12,940 --> 00:26:14,010 Speaker 2: of a good life. 586 00:26:14,020 --> 00:26:17,330 Speaker 1: I agree. So coming from a personal point of view, 587 00:26:17,340 --> 00:26:19,050 Speaker 1: what do you hope for yourself in the coming year? 588 00:26:19,940 --> 00:26:23,649 Speaker 1: You know, every year we set like some resolutions for ourselves. 589 00:26:23,650 --> 00:26:26,199 Speaker 1: I write them down my notebook because if not forget 590 00:26:26,210 --> 00:26:28,460 Speaker 1: and I will check every quarter of the year. Have 591 00:26:28,460 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 1: I hit this resolution? Yeah, there has been one on 592 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 1: my list for a long, long time and that is 593 00:26:35,290 --> 00:26:36,260 Speaker 1: to be punctual. 594 00:26:36,340 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 1: I tell you I have issues waking up in the morning, 595 00:26:38,850 --> 00:26:40,450 Speaker 1: I really have issues if 596 00:26:40,450 --> 00:26:43,330 Speaker 2: you know issues then we have what, when it comes 597 00:26:43,330 --> 00:26:45,890 Speaker 2: to the most punctual because 598 00:26:45,890 --> 00:26:47,990 Speaker 1: I put so much stress on myself, you know, sometimes 599 00:26:47,990 --> 00:26:50,200 Speaker 1: in my call time is early, say like 6 37 600 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:52,970 Speaker 1: am I get so exasperated to the extent that I 601 00:26:52,970 --> 00:26:55,859 Speaker 1: don't sleep well for fear of waking up late and 602 00:26:55,859 --> 00:26:58,540 Speaker 1: being late to my show and I really don't like that, 603 00:26:58,550 --> 00:27:00,719 Speaker 1: but now I think things are better because I've shifted 604 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:02,510 Speaker 1: from the night bell to the evening belt so I 605 00:27:02,510 --> 00:27:04,270 Speaker 1: can get an earlier night in 606 00:27:04,540 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 1: So well for me if there's one thing I hope 607 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:11,109 Speaker 1: for myself in 2020 to um work aside punctuality aside. 608 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,290 Speaker 1: I just hope that I can learn to take things 609 00:27:13,290 --> 00:27:16,530 Speaker 1: a bit easier. Don't lose sleep because of an early 610 00:27:16,530 --> 00:27:18,369 Speaker 1: call time. That's the last thing I want to do 611 00:27:18,369 --> 00:27:18,469 Speaker 1: to 612 00:27:18,470 --> 00:27:20,170 Speaker 2: myself. 613 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 2: Um, 614 00:27:21,940 --> 00:27:24,160 Speaker 2: In 2022, I hope that 615 00:27:24,540 --> 00:27:26,159 Speaker 2: there's a ring on this finger. 616 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:28,420 Speaker 2: I really hope so. 617 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,360 Speaker 2: Actually, who knows? It's november now by the time this 618 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:36,620 Speaker 2: episode comes out. No, no, no, no, but it's not 619 00:27:36,619 --> 00:27:39,550 Speaker 2: that that's what I'm hoping for my 2022. It's just 620 00:27:39,550 --> 00:27:42,149 Speaker 2: that that would be a really nice milestone to have. 621 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:45,170 Speaker 2: You know, like after so many years, would you tattoo 622 00:27:45,170 --> 00:27:46,770 Speaker 2: the date that Asa proposes? 623 00:27:46,940 --> 00:27:49,850 Speaker 2: No, I firmly believe in not getting any tattoos related 624 00:27:49,850 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 2: to your partner, your kid, can your dog, can your 625 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:53,270 Speaker 2: partner know why? 626 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:55,670 Speaker 2: Because you never know 627 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:58,379 Speaker 2: if something might happen to 628 00:27:58,380 --> 00:28:00,460 Speaker 1: touch wood, but he's been such an important part of 629 00:28:00,460 --> 00:28:01,060 Speaker 1: his life. 630 00:28:01,540 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 2: That's right. That's right. Yeah, but you never know. You 631 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 2: never know. Yeah, I'm just a firm believer in that 632 00:28:06,530 --> 00:28:09,650 Speaker 2: if you do, like, that's your prerogative. But I mean, 633 00:28:09,660 --> 00:28:13,180 Speaker 2: apart from that, I think this year, yeah, I just 634 00:28:13,180 --> 00:28:13,770 Speaker 2: hope that 635 00:28:14,540 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 2: I will achieve full mental stability. My God, that's so 636 00:28:19,250 --> 00:28:23,130 Speaker 2: sad to say no. But yeah, full mental stability and 637 00:28:23,130 --> 00:28:29,350 Speaker 2: like more confidence in myself. Fantastic. I hope in 2022 638 00:28:29,350 --> 00:28:32,770 Speaker 2: that I would continue to roll with the punches, 639 00:28:32,940 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 2: okay, that I will continue to have as much fun 640 00:28:38,490 --> 00:28:42,270 Speaker 2: as I'm having. No, it's so important to me. I don't, 641 00:28:42,540 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 2: I know it makes me sound like 642 00:28:44,740 --> 00:28:48,130 Speaker 2: nothing matters or it sounds it makes me sound crazy. 643 00:28:48,130 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 2: You know, it makes you sound like I'm not serious. 644 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:54,130 Speaker 2: You know, I feel like people might misread this. She's 645 00:28:54,130 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 2: very serious. I am rather serious. Yeah, 646 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:02,410 Speaker 2: can be, yeah. Yeah, but I just like to have 647 00:29:02,420 --> 00:29:05,550 Speaker 2: as much fun as possible with whatever I'm doing because 648 00:29:05,550 --> 00:29:06,670 Speaker 2: I feel like you know, 649 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,670 Speaker 2: life is so short, right? I cannot get 650 00:29:10,140 --> 00:29:12,260 Speaker 2: I cannot I don't want to be that person where 651 00:29:12,260 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 2: I do something because I have to get it done. 652 00:29:14,330 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 2: So no matter what it is, I really try to 653 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,180 Speaker 2: have fun with it and I hope to continue to 654 00:29:18,180 --> 00:29:22,370 Speaker 2: do that. I hope to do a lot more exciting 655 00:29:22,370 --> 00:29:23,550 Speaker 2: stuff at work as well. 656 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 2: Um um and to have a lot of fun now 657 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,780 Speaker 2: that travel is opening up, let's travel more everybody. 658 00:29:29,780 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, yes. Let's go on another besties trip 659 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 1: in 2022. For sure. 660 00:29:34,820 --> 00:29:37,190 Speaker 2: Leave resets because honestly now we've got zero, we have 661 00:29:37,270 --> 00:29:38,860 Speaker 2: already wiped it out. 662 00:29:39,340 --> 00:29:43,820 Speaker 2: So any final thoughts or final words for people that 663 00:29:43,820 --> 00:29:47,370 Speaker 2: listen to harsh podcasts, you, the people that have been 664 00:29:47,370 --> 00:29:49,450 Speaker 2: with us for over a year. 665 00:29:50,140 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 1: I can't believe this is coming to an end. I 666 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 1: mean season three, I cannot believe season three is coming 667 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 1: to an end, but I just want to say a 668 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 1: huge thank you to all listeners out there. You know, 669 00:29:58,170 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 1: every time you drop us a DM on our personal 670 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,620 Speaker 1: instagram or like its clarity dot co we will always 671 00:30:03,620 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 1: take screenshots and send it to our WhatsApp group chat. 672 00:30:05,930 --> 00:30:07,660 Speaker 1: So all of us get to read it. 673 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 1: Thank you for loving our poorly done song covers our 674 00:30:12,650 --> 00:30:16,770 Speaker 1: all our conversations or topics, you know, there even will 675 00:30:16,770 --> 00:30:19,290 Speaker 1: be some listeners who sends me a personal message thing 676 00:30:19,300 --> 00:30:21,230 Speaker 1: and you know what, you should talk about this topic, 677 00:30:21,230 --> 00:30:24,730 Speaker 1: being friends with your access, that was already in planner actually. 678 00:30:24,740 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 1: So when the topic came out, the one that came 679 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:29,770 Speaker 1: out like a few months ago, 680 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 1: she replied excitedly saying OMG you guys really did this topic, 681 00:30:33,850 --> 00:30:36,260 Speaker 1: I can see how much our content 682 00:30:36,340 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 1: it's important to her and that is important to me 683 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,930 Speaker 1: because we are doing relatable content that you enjoy, that 684 00:30:42,930 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 1: you find helps you in your life makes you happier then. 685 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:47,500 Speaker 1: I think we have served our purpose as host of 686 00:30:47,500 --> 00:30:48,240 Speaker 1: harsh podcast. 687 00:30:48,250 --> 00:30:51,330 Speaker 2: Absolutely. And I think it's crazy because you would think 688 00:30:51,330 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 2: right that people recognize us more for a radio show. 689 00:30:54,490 --> 00:30:56,709 Speaker 2: But these days when I meet people, the first thing 690 00:30:56,710 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 2: they tell me is I love hash podcast. Yeah, no, 691 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:01,770 Speaker 2: I love your radio, 692 00:31:02,340 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 2: but you know what, like I'm just so glad that 693 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:08,480 Speaker 2: we had an amazing team behind us, supporting us and 694 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,650 Speaker 2: doing all this, they work so hard, honestly, just show 695 00:31:11,650 --> 00:31:12,410 Speaker 2: up like 696 00:31:12,420 --> 00:31:17,140 Speaker 1: yeah, the scripts are lovingly prepared by them, so much 697 00:31:17,140 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 1: of research done, you know, 698 00:31:18,650 --> 00:31:19,950 Speaker 2: correct, correct. You know, 699 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,090 Speaker 2: they make it so fast free for us that you know, 700 00:31:22,090 --> 00:31:23,959 Speaker 2: all we think about is what to wear. 701 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:24,750 Speaker 2: And then we show 702 00:31:24,750 --> 00:31:27,180 Speaker 1: up. Yeah. Like yeah, we only have to buy our 703 00:31:27,180 --> 00:31:28,370 Speaker 1: clothes online 704 00:31:28,380 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 2: and we only go shopping. That sounds 705 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:31,950 Speaker 1: terrible turnout. Like similar 706 00:31:31,950 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 2: clothes. Exactly. And you know, they do everything so well 707 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,860 Speaker 2: for us. So that's been amazing. And I'm sure, you know, 708 00:31:37,870 --> 00:31:39,960 Speaker 2: if you're listening right now, you might be wondering 709 00:31:40,140 --> 00:31:41,650 Speaker 2: what's going to happen to hash, Why does it sound 710 00:31:41,650 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 2: like we're saying goodbye? 711 00:31:43,210 --> 00:31:45,190 Speaker 1: Of course not. Of course, this is not the end. 712 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 1: We will be working to develop the harsh branding a 713 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,950 Speaker 1: bit more. Maybe in different ways. But definitely you can 714 00:31:50,950 --> 00:31:52,700 Speaker 1: still expect more content 715 00:31:52,780 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 2: And clarity themselves are going to be doing so much 716 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:57,950 Speaker 2: in 2022. Of course you can look forward to. Men 717 00:31:57,950 --> 00:32:02,250 Speaker 2: explain with our very dear sonic. Yes. Um there's already 718 00:32:02,250 --> 00:32:04,510 Speaker 2: a couple episodes from season two out. So make sure 719 00:32:04,510 --> 00:32:06,580 Speaker 2: you can check it out. And also clarity is working 720 00:32:06,580 --> 00:32:09,860 Speaker 2: on another podcast featuring women from different backgrounds 721 00:32:09,940 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 2: sharing secrets of their success is, wow, I need to 722 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 2: listen incredible 723 00:32:14,450 --> 00:32:15,180 Speaker 1: to hear that. 724 00:32:15,190 --> 00:32:16,250 Speaker 2: Amazing. 725 00:32:16,260 --> 00:32:19,460 Speaker 1: So for those of you who love watching videos on youtube, 726 00:32:19,470 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 1: you can also find us on youtube. Okay, Just key 727 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,229 Speaker 1: in harsh, harsh. There are also other series available to 728 00:32:24,230 --> 00:32:25,770 Speaker 1: watch on clarity's channel. 729 00:32:25,780 --> 00:32:27,250 Speaker 2: Mm hmm that's right. And you know, I just want 730 00:32:27,250 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 2: to say 731 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:29,480 Speaker 2: thank you so much for listening to us. You know, 732 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:31,850 Speaker 2: we're not experts and whatever we discuss about some of 733 00:32:31,850 --> 00:32:33,540 Speaker 2: the things we had to do a little bit more 734 00:32:33,540 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 2: research now. And but you know for just hearing us 735 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,850 Speaker 2: out and for you know respecting our opinions even though 736 00:32:38,850 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 2: it might be our opinion. But you know, for taking 737 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:42,890 Speaker 2: the time to listen to us. I think that is 738 00:32:42,890 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 2: just so nice. 739 00:32:43,890 --> 00:32:45,300 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Thank you 740 00:32:45,300 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 2: so much. Oh and Hazy is also going to be 741 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:51,270 Speaker 2: on a new series with clarity. 742 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:56,620 Speaker 1: This is going to be exciting episode about blind dating. 743 00:32:56,630 --> 00:32:58,350 Speaker 2: I 744 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:01,630 Speaker 1: have never gone on any like dating apps. Okay. I 745 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:05,490 Speaker 1: don't know. Not even on a blind date. So this 746 00:33:05,500 --> 00:33:09,080 Speaker 1: new challenge is going to be very exciting. And I 747 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,680 Speaker 1: honestly cannot wait to see who I'll meet. What if 748 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 1: you 749 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:13,510 Speaker 2: end up getting married to that person and 750 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:15,530 Speaker 1: then I will treat all of you to a very, 751 00:33:15,530 --> 00:33:17,340 Speaker 1: very good banquet dinner. 752 00:33:17,350 --> 00:33:23,300 Speaker 2: Okay, can we have a look at the profile of 753 00:33:23,300 --> 00:33:24,940 Speaker 2: this person? Just can't go 754 00:33:24,940 --> 00:33:25,930 Speaker 1: through the profile of 755 00:33:25,930 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 2: the bank. 756 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,900 Speaker 2: But yes, thank you very much for letting us share 757 00:33:30,910 --> 00:33:33,940 Speaker 2: in this safe space. Sometimes. Were very scared also to share. 758 00:33:33,940 --> 00:33:35,890 Speaker 2: I think like our full honest opinions. I 759 00:33:35,890 --> 00:33:40,050 Speaker 1: think we've been very, very honest. It's very harsh. It 760 00:33:40,050 --> 00:33:43,060 Speaker 1: scares me sometimes. Actually I go back home. I think, 761 00:33:43,070 --> 00:33:45,540 Speaker 1: oh my God, should I not have said this on? Hashtag. 762 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,960 Speaker 2: Yes, but because it's so safe here. Right? 763 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,420 Speaker 2: I think in the moment we should we really share 764 00:33:51,430 --> 00:33:53,959 Speaker 2: a lot with you guys. Yeah, it's only when we 765 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,530 Speaker 2: step up we're like, oh my God, hold on. It's 766 00:33:56,530 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 2: not just these three people who are listening to me, 767 00:33:58,610 --> 00:34:00,970 Speaker 2: it's going to be thousands of you as well on 768 00:34:00,970 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 1: Spotify apple podcasts and listen, oh gosh, 769 00:34:03,850 --> 00:34:05,860 Speaker 2: yeah, but if you want to listen to us, um, 770 00:34:05,860 --> 00:34:09,549 Speaker 2: not talk about our vaginas life. I'm sorry, radio cannot. 771 00:34:09,550 --> 00:34:09,860 Speaker 2: But 772 00:34:09,940 --> 00:34:14,580 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, daily happenings. Yes. Daily helps. You can 773 00:34:14,580 --> 00:34:19,219 Speaker 2: tune into three different stations no matter your son son. Alright. 774 00:34:19,219 --> 00:34:20,540 Speaker 2: What time? five 775 00:34:20,540 --> 00:34:22,730 Speaker 1: to eight. Okay, what's my show name? I 776 00:34:22,739 --> 00:34:26,969 Speaker 2: notice, hold on, hold on, hold on, Shawn in chinese. Yes, 777 00:34:26,980 --> 00:34:27,790 Speaker 2: that's correct. 778 00:34:31,340 --> 00:34:33,310 Speaker 2: I know, I know, I know. Okay. I don't say that. Okay. 779 00:34:33,310 --> 00:34:35,300 Speaker 1: You said the second word. Okay, 780 00:34:36,540 --> 00:34:41,350 Speaker 2: good. There we go. 781 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:45,210 Speaker 1: Okay. Okay, so you can also listen to Germany on 987. 782 00:34:45,219 --> 00:34:48,759 Speaker 1: The knockout with jermaine. That's right, weekdays eight PM to 783 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:49,610 Speaker 1: 12 midnight. 784 00:34:49,610 --> 00:34:53,210 Speaker 2: That's right. And you can listen to our dear Zura on, 785 00:34:53,219 --> 00:34:54,259 Speaker 2: how does it at 97. 786 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:00,430 Speaker 2: Reapproved 787 00:35:01,090 --> 00:35:04,920 Speaker 1: weekdays five p.m. To nine p.m. You can catch us 788 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:06,620 Speaker 1: on our various shows and texas 789 00:35:06,620 --> 00:35:08,610 Speaker 2: like say that, you know, I came from harsh broadcast. 790 00:35:08,620 --> 00:35:11,320 Speaker 2: It will make me so happy. I have 791 00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:12,630 Speaker 1: received word that I 792 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:14,660 Speaker 2: have, I have makes me so happy 793 00:35:15,250 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 1: though. That person commented on the sweaty vagina. That sweaty 794 00:35:19,530 --> 00:35:23,250 Speaker 1: armpits sweaty piece episode. I was so embarrassed. Someone come 795 00:35:23,250 --> 00:35:26,860 Speaker 1: and leave a comment on my facebook life livestream. Okay. 796 00:35:26,870 --> 00:35:29,910 Speaker 2: Hello, your armpit never went before 797 00:35:31,140 --> 00:35:33,890 Speaker 2: but that proves they listen to us 798 00:35:33,900 --> 00:35:37,410 Speaker 1: all in all. I'm really, really very, very happy. Thank 799 00:35:37,410 --> 00:35:39,100 Speaker 1: you so much for all of the support 800 00:35:39,110 --> 00:35:40,910 Speaker 2: and I just feel like you know harsh has opened 801 00:35:40,910 --> 00:35:44,870 Speaker 2: so many doors for all three of us. It's very nice. 802 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:45,470 Speaker 1: Mm mm mm mm mm 803 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,380 Speaker 1: So I have my goals to tank as well. Thank 804 00:35:48,380 --> 00:35:49,230 Speaker 1: you so much. Our 805 00:35:49,230 --> 00:35:52,609 Speaker 2: goal is to host a major national event together. Our 806 00:35:52,610 --> 00:35:52,980 Speaker 2: goal is to 807 00:35:52,980 --> 00:35:54,750 Speaker 1: host the ndp together. 808 00:35:54,760 --> 00:36:00,670 Speaker 2: Ndp call us, call us waiting. We are very versatile. Harry. 809 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,110 Speaker 2: We can, we have a lot to offer dance. They 810 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:04,460 Speaker 2: can 811 00:36:04,830 --> 00:36:08,060 Speaker 1: violence. She can, she can. That's right alright with that. 812 00:36:08,060 --> 00:36:10,080 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for tuning in to us. Thank 813 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:12,010 Speaker 1: you so much for spending your year with us. We 814 00:36:12,020 --> 00:36:13,420 Speaker 1: appreciate you so so much. That's 815 00:36:13,420 --> 00:36:15,810 Speaker 2: right. And follow us on instagram, it's clarity dot co 816 00:36:15,810 --> 00:36:18,160 Speaker 2: if you want to find out when hush might be back, 817 00:36:18,170 --> 00:36:20,850 Speaker 2: That's right. And even though this is the last episode 818 00:36:20,850 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 2: of this season, you can still listen to the rest 819 00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:27,070 Speaker 2: of the episodes on me. Listen. Apple podcast. Spotify wherever 820 00:36:27,070 --> 00:36:28,740 Speaker 2: you consume your podcasts 821 00:36:28,830 --> 00:36:30,590 Speaker 2: as well as in visuals 822 00:36:30,590 --> 00:36:34,629 Speaker 1: on youtube and for the very last time, once again 823 00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:34,859 Speaker 1: I'm 824 00:36:34,860 --> 00:36:37,160 Speaker 2: hazel. I'm a zero in on Germany 825 00:36:37,170 --> 00:36:39,670 Speaker 1: and thank you for tuning into this episode of 826 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:48,660 Speaker 2: Clarity's a 2022 will be back in a 827 00:36:48,670 --> 00:36:52,709 Speaker 1: though that person commented on the sweaty vagina that sweaty 828 00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:56,450 Speaker 1: armpits sweaty pete's episode. I was so embarrassed, someone come 829 00:36:56,450 --> 00:36:59,580 Speaker 1: and leave a comment on my facebook Life live stream. 830 00:36:59,580 --> 00:37:01,080 Speaker 2: Okay.