WEBVTT - It’s time for some cheerful climate news

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to AC N A podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes we all need a bit of positivity. If you

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<v Speaker 2>listened to our episode, last week, we learned about the

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<v Speaker 2>power of communicating solutions and optimism when it comes to

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<v Speaker 2>climate change and the state of our planet,

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<v Speaker 2>we've taken some inspiration from that discussion and this week

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<v Speaker 2>we bring you nothing but good news. Hi and welcome

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<v Speaker 2>to climate conversations. I'm Jack Boyd. Hello, Li Link Tan.

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<v Speaker 2>How are you? Feeling? Excited, feeling, positive, excited might be

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<v Speaker 2>overstating it. I, I actually struggle with this assignment. I

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<v Speaker 2>trawled the internet looking for positive climate news to cheer

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<v Speaker 2>me up and it wasn't a very,

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<v Speaker 2>pretty easy finding anything recent that really made me smile.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know about you whether you had the same issues.

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<v Speaker 2>I had to sift through a lot of doom and

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<v Speaker 2>gloom actually to get to these five happy news bits today. Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>there's silver linings in every little story. If you search

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<v Speaker 2>for it, the eternal optimist aren't you? Yeah, maybe that's me.

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<v Speaker 2>My career choice and focus on climate change.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. No, I didn't find it too bad. I think

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<v Speaker 2>what was very clear was that the solutions or the

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<v Speaker 2>positive aspects tend to be hidden at the end of

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<v Speaker 2>stories and stories tend to get written with the kind

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<v Speaker 2>of doom and gloom to start with. Yeah, that was interesting. Alright.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll get into all of that later, but it's our

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<v Speaker 2>beloved weekly quiz.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, last week, Li Ling, I asked you about the

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<v Speaker 2>populations of certain countries that believed that climate change was

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<v Speaker 2>a threat to their country and now you got them.

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<v Speaker 2>All right. It was quite amazing. Now, on a symbol

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<v Speaker 2>of vein, I want to know which populations have the

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<v Speaker 2>brightest outlooks rank these countries by respondents who are optimistic

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<v Speaker 2>about the future. All four options. A South Korea

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<v Speaker 2>B is China C Australia and D, Sweden. Oh man,

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<v Speaker 2>another ranking quiz. I feel like I've exhausted all my

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<v Speaker 2>brain cells for the last one already. Ok. So the

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<v Speaker 2>four countries South Korea, Australia, China and Sweden. Yep, that's it.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me have a think. Ok. Answers at the end.

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<v Speaker 2>Now this week we're going to skip right over news time.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry Le Ling. We won't be coming to you in

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<v Speaker 2>the newsroom because that is going to be the thrust

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<v Speaker 2>of our main segment this week. I'm not in my newsroom.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm in my living room actually. But same. Well, you're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna use the clip, right? And you see the home, obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm in my living room. And so are you ok? Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>my office is my newsroom. Yeah. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>it's an occupational hazard for all of us. Yeah, my

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<v Speaker 2>dog is literally lying behind me.

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<v Speaker 2>As famed climate change scientist, Katharine Hayhoe said to us

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<v Speaker 2>here on climate conversations last week, communicating solutions to the

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<v Speaker 2>existential crisis that is climate change is so important to

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<v Speaker 2>inspire action and to come up with collective solutions big

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<v Speaker 2>and small. Now we've taken that message to heart and

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<v Speaker 2>both of us have searched the globe for recent and

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<v Speaker 2>interesting and positive stories about how humanity is finding hope

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<v Speaker 2>in the gloom.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, some of these will be monumental. Some might seem

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<v Speaker 2>significant some less so, but we hope you'll hear them

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<v Speaker 2>and go, that's a reason to be optimistic. So the

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<v Speaker 2>format we're gonna take it in turns to chat briefly

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<v Speaker 2>about five stories. Each, we haven't divulged the stories to

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<v Speaker 2>each other beforehand. So we'll be coming in fresh like

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<v Speaker 2>you to hear about them and interesting to see both

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<v Speaker 2>of our responses to those stories.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm ready to smile for planet Earth. Are you ready

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<v Speaker 2>for that, Lili? Oh, yeah, let's do that. Cheer for

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<v Speaker 2>Planet Earth. Woohoo.

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<v Speaker 2>Ok. My story number one. Now, these are not in

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<v Speaker 2>any order. I'm gonna kick us off with this very

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<v Speaker 2>cool story. It was courtesy of Bloomberg.

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<v Speaker 2>It's about a trial that's been going on since last

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<v Speaker 2>month between Singapore Airlines, Qantas and New Zealand and Garuda, Indonesia.

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<v Speaker 2>And they're choosing the exact air routes that they fly. Basically,

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<v Speaker 2>they're taking shortcuts. In the sky. The aim is to

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<v Speaker 2>be more efficient, use less fuel and create fewer greenhouse

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<v Speaker 2>gas emissions. So basically, there are 38 different routes where

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<v Speaker 2>this is happening already.

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<v Speaker 2>And for Singapore Airlines that includes flying to Sydney to Perth,

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<v Speaker 2>to Christchurch among a bunch of other places.

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<v Speaker 2>And the Civil Aviation Authority of Singapore has already said

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<v Speaker 2>that airlines can potentially save up to 1.7 tons of

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<v Speaker 2>fuel for a flight between Singapore and Melbourne simply by

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<v Speaker 2>taking a faster path, a more efficient route.

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<v Speaker 2>And the idea is that this could actually be extended

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<v Speaker 2>to many other cities. Europe has been looking at this

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<v Speaker 2>for a long time. So for me, seems like a win, right.

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<v Speaker 2>We're flying faster to our destinations, fewer emissions and given

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<v Speaker 2>the struggles that seem to be persisting with sustainable fuels smart. Right. Yeah, this,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm kind of surprised because I had always just assumed

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<v Speaker 2>that planes would take the shortest route possible, right.

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<v Speaker 2>But there are dynamics, I guess in the sky they've

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<v Speaker 2>got wind, you've got the shape of the earth. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess it's a bit surprising. We're not doing this

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<v Speaker 2>already but better late than never. Yeah. Good, good. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm really happy about that start. I'll see your flying

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<v Speaker 2>shortcuts and raise your cargo for shortcuts. Alright. So Japan

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<v Speaker 2>has plans to build this giant 500 kilometer road and

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<v Speaker 2>tunnel conveyor belt system

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<v Speaker 2>to move cargo between two of its busiest cities Tokyo,

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<v Speaker 2>you've stolen my conveyor belt. Oh, did I sorry? Beat

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<v Speaker 2>you to the punch. So this conveyor belt system think

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<v Speaker 2>conveyor belt sushi, right? But just a bit bigger actually

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<v Speaker 2>a lot bigger and it solves two big issues for

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<v Speaker 2>the country. First, it addresses

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<v Speaker 2>a shortage of truck drivers that is becoming increasingly worse

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<v Speaker 2>as the population ages and then it also helps to

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<v Speaker 2>slash transport emissions. Now, freight transportation accounted for more than 7%

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<v Speaker 2>of Japan's total co two emissions. And this so called

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<v Speaker 2>auto flow road reportedly can carry the same amount of

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<v Speaker 2>cargo as 25,000

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<v Speaker 2>trucks a day. And it involves, I looked at the

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<v Speaker 2>pictures of this and it involves belts either in the

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<v Speaker 2>middle of the highway or on the road shoulders as

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<v Speaker 2>well as underground tunnels to transport the cargo. It all

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<v Speaker 2>goes according to plan, it will be ready in about

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<v Speaker 2>10 years. So I think it will be quite a

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<v Speaker 2>sight to see and really if anybody could pull this off,

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<v Speaker 2>Japan could,

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<v Speaker 2>yeah, this is Japan in my mind like coming up

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<v Speaker 2>with these like high tech ideas that we always associate

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<v Speaker 2>with the country. Yeah, I mean efficient logistics makes a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of sense, moving some goods I think would be

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<v Speaker 2>much faster, I think especially like fresh food, for example,

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<v Speaker 2>could be moved in a much more efficient manner. I

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<v Speaker 2>bet it's gonna be super expensive. But yeah, some blue

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<v Speaker 2>sky thinking for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>My story number two. This one's also from a few

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<v Speaker 2>weeks back. But I think it's worth mentioning because we

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<v Speaker 2>often talk about this issue about fossil fuel financing back

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<v Speaker 2>in my backyard. One of the major banks in Australia,

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<v Speaker 2>the country's largest lender, the Commonwealth Bank announced that it'll

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<v Speaker 2>be moving away from funding fossil fuel companies that don't

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<v Speaker 2>have proper emissions reduction plans.

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<v Speaker 2>Supposedly, it's ditching coal, it's ditching gas if those lenders

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<v Speaker 2>don't have policies that are in line with the Paris Agreement.

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<v Speaker 2>Good news, right. This has already been happening to a degree.

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<v Speaker 2>The CB A has dropped its fossil fuel loans already

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<v Speaker 2>by 92% over the past few years and halved its

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<v Speaker 2>exposure to oil and gas. And there are a number

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<v Speaker 2>of reasons why they're doing this. These are increasingly uncertain

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<v Speaker 2>investments that can add risk to a bank's portfolio.

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<v Speaker 2>It also increases their exposure to lawsuits and climate activism.

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<v Speaker 2>And we always talk about how climate financing is so

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<v Speaker 2>important and the lingering trails of fossil fuel investment is

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<v Speaker 2>a big complication to why we're not reaching our climate

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<v Speaker 2>goals and many banks are not moving very fast. If

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<v Speaker 2>you look around this region, the fossil fuel investments are

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<v Speaker 2>still happening. They're still in the pipeline of many of

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<v Speaker 2>our banks.

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<v Speaker 2>When banks do this, I think it's well worth celebrating. Absolutely. Ok.

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<v Speaker 2>Speaking of fossil fuels and the transition away from them,

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<v Speaker 2>I have something, some good news about the cost of renewables.

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<v Speaker 2>And of course, a lot of this has to do

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<v Speaker 2>with demand and supply. So new renewable power capacity set

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<v Speaker 2>a record in 2023 with over 470 gigawatts of new

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<v Speaker 2>installed capacity.

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<v Speaker 2>This is from a report issued this month by the

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<v Speaker 2>International Renewable Energy Agency and it loss. Yeah, the big

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<v Speaker 2>dogs and this is a 54% increase compared to 2022.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the largest annual growth since around 2000 I believe. Now.

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<v Speaker 2>Also encouraging is that it found that the cost of

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<v Speaker 2>electricity generated from renewable power is dropping rather significantly. Get

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<v Speaker 2>this of new or additional renewable power last year was

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<v Speaker 2>cheaper than fossil fuel. And the global weighted average cost

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<v Speaker 2>of electricity fell rapidly between 2010 and 2023.

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<v Speaker 2>So I know this is a lot of numbers but

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<v Speaker 2>try and keep up. Now this decline in cost includes

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<v Speaker 2>a 90% plunge in the cost of power from solar

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<v Speaker 2>photovoltaics and a 70% decline in onshore wind power cost.

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<v Speaker 2>So basically it means that utility or large scale renewable

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<v Speaker 2>power is getting cheaper at a very encouraging pace. Sit

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<v Speaker 2>there very good. Now we just need to

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<v Speaker 2>upgrade all of our grids and transmission lines to really

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<v Speaker 2>make the most of this increasingly cheap energy infrastructure.

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<v Speaker 2>Ok. Changing pace a little bit emojis. Are you a

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<v Speaker 2>big fan slash user leading of emojis? I don't see

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<v Speaker 2>you using them that much. No, not really. I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>even a fan of the exclamation mark. So emojis that

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<v Speaker 2>could be a bit aggressive, right? The exclamation. I just

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<v Speaker 2>realized that so many of my messages come across

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<v Speaker 2>as like, too serious and mean. So I have started

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<v Speaker 2>using emojis. Yes, I'm all about them. I use them

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<v Speaker 2>a bit too much. Even in professional emails I probably

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<v Speaker 2>should stop. There are going to be some new ones

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<v Speaker 2>coming up. Yay. Ok. That's not the full news because

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<v Speaker 2>of course, there are so many emojis already, but from

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<v Speaker 2>next year, there's going to be a new set released

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<v Speaker 2>with at least one of them having the environment in mind.

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<v Speaker 2>This might not sound positive, but this new emoji is

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<v Speaker 2>a leafless tree and it's dry and it's suffering from drought.

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<v Speaker 2>The idea is that having this little picture can help

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<v Speaker 2>people communicate about the changing planet and drought is like

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<v Speaker 2>a massive issue for many communities around the world. And

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<v Speaker 2>it seems that environmental groups are pretty happy about this,

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<v Speaker 2>like seemingly insignificant news. But as Catherine told us last week,

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<v Speaker 2>the best way to combat climate change is to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about it. So here's another way

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<v Speaker 2>that we can do it. There are other interesting emojis

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<v Speaker 2>not really related to the climate, but you'll soon be

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<v Speaker 2>able to have a fingerprint, a shovel. It's like a

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<v Speaker 2>purple splatter kind of thing. I don't know what that's

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<v Speaker 2>for and a yellow face that's looking completely exhausted with

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<v Speaker 2>bags under its eyes. So I reckon maybe that's one

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<v Speaker 2>you could start to use or on group chat. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I know you're working hard. So I think you're working.

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<v Speaker 2>Moving on. All right,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll take your emojis. I'll see your emojis and raise

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<v Speaker 2>you Royal British goats.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks to King Charles the third who in July bestowed

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<v Speaker 2>a royal title to a rare gold haired goat breed

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<v Speaker 2>that is seemingly at risk. And according to the associated press,

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<v Speaker 2>the breed now has the special title of Royal Golden

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<v Speaker 2>Guns Goat. And the title applies to the breed anywhere

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<v Speaker 2>in the world. It recognizes their value to biodiversity, the

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<v Speaker 2>environment

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<v Speaker 2>and sustainable food production and their milk is apparently quite

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<v Speaker 2>good chock a win for the goat royal milk. You'd

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<v Speaker 2>be drinking. I don't think milk is royal, but the

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<v Speaker 2>goat is, although I suppose the milk would be royal too,

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<v Speaker 2>then wouldn't it? So hang on. Why is it a

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<v Speaker 2>royal goat? Because King Charles the third likes it

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<v Speaker 2>and I think they wanted to preserve it because it's

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<v Speaker 2>a vulnerable breed. Yeah, we just need more species, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>a knighted sheep or something. Money flowing to these goats.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh Yeah. Yeah, it could be just symbolic. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>but hey, it grabs attention, right? A goat, royal goat

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<v Speaker 2>breed

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<v Speaker 2>story four is about a I your favorite topic and

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<v Speaker 2>we had an episode a few months back where we

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<v Speaker 2>talked about how A I is helping in the environmental space.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think they were really interesting examples in our region.

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<v Speaker 2>And now Google is teaming up with Griffith University and

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<v Speaker 2>they're gonna use A I technology to monitor humpback whale migrations.

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<v Speaker 2>So normally my understanding of tracking whales is really time

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<v Speaker 2>consuming and really logistically difficult. But now they're going to

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<v Speaker 2>deploy these underwater microphones and they'll use Google A I

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<v Speaker 2>to continuously detect whale sounds, track their location, classify species.

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<v Speaker 2>And it should give the researchers a clearer picture about

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<v Speaker 2>how whales are behaving and where they are moving. So

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<v Speaker 2>yeah, and in the end, it might help us to

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<v Speaker 2>conserve and protect the species. So A I once again

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<v Speaker 2>stepping in and doing the tasks that we don't like

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<v Speaker 2>or we're unable to in an efficient way. Absolutely. A

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<v Speaker 2>good news story undeniably. Yes. Yes. Fantastic news. Always happy

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<v Speaker 2>to hear good news about very scary A I OK.

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<v Speaker 2>What do I have? I've got plastic eating microbes. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>the French beauty brand

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<v Speaker 2>Loxy than has an almond oil shower gel bottled in

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<v Speaker 2>a plastic pe T flask made from plastic, recycled through

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<v Speaker 2>the digestion of used bottles by microbial enzymes. So basically

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<v Speaker 2>these microbes digest use plastics and then what they digest

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<v Speaker 2>is then made in

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<v Speaker 2>to new poly ethylene Terrel bottles. So it's a product

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<v Speaker 2>by French Biotech company, Carbs in partnership with Loxy. And

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<v Speaker 2>it's an example of what microbes can do to help

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<v Speaker 2>the environment and address this massive waste problem that we

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<v Speaker 2>are seeing around the world. Now, it's from the Nature

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<v Speaker 2>Journal and it says that research is underway to see

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<v Speaker 2>how they can

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<v Speaker 2>be harnessed these microbes, how they can be harnessed to

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<v Speaker 2>eat pollutants from what we call forever chemicals to cyanide,

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<v Speaker 2>as well as petroleum. It's a proven signs and the

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<v Speaker 2>market for this so called bio remediation is expected to

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<v Speaker 2>grow by more than $8 billion by 2028 compared to

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<v Speaker 2>last year. And part of the explanation is that bacteria,

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<v Speaker 2>our microbes can mutate and evolve quickly to adapt to

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<v Speaker 2>their environment and consume whatever carbon sources are available and

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<v Speaker 2>that includes plastic. So new discovery, new research potential A I,

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<v Speaker 2>are you afraid of? You know, I am I like

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<v Speaker 2>the microbes, not such a fan of A I but

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<v Speaker 2>I I recognize its value.

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<v Speaker 2>Alright. Last story going to Italy. Now my partner and

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<v Speaker 2>I were thinking about planning a trip recently to Sicily.

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<v Speaker 2>It's been on my list for quite a few years.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you been? No, I hear it's very dry now. Well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it is dry and that's one of the reasons why

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<v Speaker 2>we decided actually against it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd read news about the extreme drought situation that was

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<v Speaker 2>happening there over the past few months and I felt

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<v Speaker 2>like tourism during times of resource shortages is a bit irresponsible.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, I just felt like ah, maybe we

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<v Speaker 2>shouldn't go there when

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<v Speaker 2>people are struggling with having enough water and the farmers

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<v Speaker 2>don't have enough water and you're adding to the strain

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<v Speaker 2>of a community that's very thoughtful of you. It was

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<v Speaker 2>at least a factor. It was at least a factor now,

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<v Speaker 2>incredibly thoughtful of you. Jack. I've got my respect for you. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>So now though, they have found a huge underground water reserve,

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<v Speaker 2>17 billion cubic meters of water. Now, that's a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of water

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<v Speaker 2>and it dates back millions of years. And basically, it's

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<v Speaker 2>the equivalent of 6.8 million Olympic size swimming pools or

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<v Speaker 2>the equivalent of giving every single person in the world

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<v Speaker 2>a 2000 L tank of water. So

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<v Speaker 2>it's an immense discovery actually, they think it was discovered

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<v Speaker 2>about 20 years ago, but they've done some proper research

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<v Speaker 2>on it. Now, it's pretty far underground. Obviously, lots of

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<v Speaker 2>people want to utilize the water for drinking needs, for animals,

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<v Speaker 2>for farming and Sicily has been suffering. So undoubtedly, of course,

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<v Speaker 2>there will be some bureaucratic obstacles studies that need to

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<v Speaker 2>be done. But yeah, it could be a little lifeline

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<v Speaker 2>for the people there and

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<v Speaker 2>maybe I will get to go on that holiday without

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<v Speaker 2>the guilt of using up their precious resources. Ok. So

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<v Speaker 2>we've got the last one and I think this is

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<v Speaker 2>quite fitting. It's about climate therapy for those of us

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<v Speaker 2>who have had enough of the doom and gloom and

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<v Speaker 2>need a little bit of self care. There are resources

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<v Speaker 2>that you can tap into

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<v Speaker 2>so people with eco distress, so called eco distress can

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<v Speaker 2>get group therapy. Now, it's called the Good Grief Network.

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<v Speaker 2>And they started out from research at the University of Utah.

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<v Speaker 2>They now offer group climate therapy sessions across

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<v Speaker 2>the world. This is based from a report from insight,

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<v Speaker 2>climate news.org. It said in early September that this is

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<v Speaker 2>the brainchild of a psychiatrist who started up the therapy

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<v Speaker 2>support network a decade ago to help front line climate

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<v Speaker 2>workers overwhelmed by global warming. It involves a 10 step

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<v Speaker 2>program for resilience and empowerment in a chaotic climate.

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<v Speaker 2>And that begins with acceptance grieving over harm caused and

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<v Speaker 2>investing in meaningful effort. Sounds a bit like alcoholic anonymous.

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<v Speaker 2>If it's across the world, is it like an in

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<v Speaker 2>person thing or online or I'm not sure. But I

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<v Speaker 2>think they have like representation in different parts of the world.

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<v Speaker 2>And

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure that they have online courses. I didn't really

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<v Speaker 2>look into this, but I will because I'm quite interested

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<v Speaker 2>in signing up. I think we get a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>trauma from doing this podcast and having to sift through

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<v Speaker 2>all the doom and gloom, right? Maybe not you. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>let me know how it goes. It's pretty gloomy material.

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<v Speaker 2>Ok. Anyway, we hope that those stories were a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit uplifting in a way, at least showing some of

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<v Speaker 2>the solutions that are out there. Not everything is about

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<v Speaker 2>the end of the planet. All right. Shall we do

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<v Speaker 2>the quiz now? Oh, you're excited for the quiz. Ok.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll give you the question again. Rank these countries by

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<v Speaker 2>respondents who are optimistic about the future, South Korea, China,

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<v Speaker 2>Australia and Sweden. So I'm gonna go with Australia first

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<v Speaker 2>because you're Australian and you're really quite optimistic. So I'm

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<v Speaker 2>guessing it's kind of part of the national collective DNA.

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<v Speaker 2>So Australia tops the list for me.

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<v Speaker 2>Then I'm going to go with Sweden because Nordic countries

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<v Speaker 2>keep topping the World Happiness Index. So I think it

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<v Speaker 2>might translate into the optimism over climate change.

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<v Speaker 2>Then I'm going to go to South Korea, but only

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<v Speaker 2>because it's smaller than China, which has a massive surface area,

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<v Speaker 2>vulnerable to multiple effects of climate change and with its

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<v Speaker 2>population of over 1.4 billion people. So I imagine it's

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<v Speaker 2>harder for the country as a whole to be very

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<v Speaker 2>optimistic about climate change. How did I do? Interesting logic.

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<v Speaker 2>You've got one out of four. I love that. You

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<v Speaker 2>thought Australians are so optimistic. I think we generally are,

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<v Speaker 2>but we're also hit by a bunch of hard stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>So Australia comes in at 2nd, 55% of people are

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<v Speaker 2>optimistic about the future still pretty low. But second on

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<v Speaker 2>this list,

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<v Speaker 2>South Korea, you got correct in third place. Only 36%

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<v Speaker 2>of people are optimistic. There top is China, 71% are

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<v Speaker 2>optimistic and the bottom was Sweden, 35%. Despite all they've

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<v Speaker 2>got going on for them over there,

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<v Speaker 2>they still have this negative view of the world. They're

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<v Speaker 2>like constantly ranking top, you know, top five on in

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<v Speaker 2>and they're so difficult to please. Jeez. So there you go.

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<v Speaker 2>Not as good as last week, but good effort. That's ok.

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<v Speaker 2>We all learn something new and that's what matters indeed.

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<v Speaker 2>Alright. That's it for climate conversations. Thanks as always for

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<v Speaker 2>joining us. We'll be back next week and until then,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Li Ling Tan Ari Dei and I'm Jack Boyd.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks as always to the team that put together this podcast,

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<v Speaker 2>Tiffany Ang, Janani, Jahari, Kristina Robert and SA NC. Bye.