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Speaker 1: Hi hazel Hazara and

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Speaker 2: welcome back to another episode of cavities.

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Speaker 2: Mhm

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Speaker 2: merry christmas today

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Speaker 1: we're gonna be touching on. It's something that I have

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Speaker 1: been waiting for for a long time, will it be

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Speaker 1: a christmas

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Speaker 2: Present? That's right. So we have a Christmas gift for

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Speaker 2: me just for her only 19567. All I want for

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Speaker 2: Christmas is to be proposed to.

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Speaker 2: I

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Speaker 1: love the festive mood here today. Check out our Youtube.

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Speaker 1: The set looks amazing, amazing. Get out. I honestly, why

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Speaker 1: are we so cute?

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Speaker 2: I just can't think we cannot see other people sick

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Speaker 2: even though we ask ourselves this question every single

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Speaker 1: day, we keep it actually why I so cute, nobody

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Speaker 1: proposed to me. That is the question right, Calling itself

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Speaker 1: right now. Hello,

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Speaker 2: I

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Speaker 1: anyway today we are going to be discussing something that

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Speaker 1: I think every girl would have thought about once in

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Speaker 1: their life marriage proposals. It is something that

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Speaker 1: some people think it's the most important thing in the world.

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Speaker 1: Some people think it's overly performative where you do it

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Speaker 1: for the sake of doing it.

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Speaker 1: So we kind of want to break it down a

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Speaker 1: little bit. We'll get into a couple of real life

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Speaker 1: stories from the only merit person here which I'm excited

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Speaker 1: about this. I'll tell you that I'm

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Speaker 2: you guys got to listen to the story. It's

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Speaker 1: A really good one. So let's kind of unpack this

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Speaker 1: today but very briefly. Alright,

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Speaker 1: do we all wish to be proposed to? Sorry, can

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Speaker 1: I just say I cried for half a year.

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Speaker 2: I can't for half

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Speaker 1: a year, maybe a young stay tuned for the full

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Speaker 1: story coming up with a podcast.

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Speaker 2: So I think I know the answer to that question.

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Speaker 2: Very yes for you. Yes,

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Speaker 1: yes, I do actually. I think it's romantic. Uh

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Speaker 2: we the only single member in harsh

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Speaker 2: now for now. Hopefully yes. My answer is yes. I mean,

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Speaker 2: which girl wouldn't want to be proposed to once in

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Speaker 2: a lifetime kind of thing. I think we have to

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Speaker 2: make it special and memorable,

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Speaker 1: understand, understand.

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Speaker 1: So before we dive deep into the importance of marriage

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Speaker 1: proposals or maybe how superfluous it is. Let's understand a

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Speaker 1: bit more because when someone proposes, right, you know, the

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Speaker 1: guy gets down on one knee, have we ever considered

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Speaker 1: why he does that?

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Speaker 1: Why do you all think

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Speaker 2: actually wire

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Speaker 1: she's not wrong actually. Why diamond ring? Why not like

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Speaker 1: sapphire ring or a ring pop? You know the candy candy? No,

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Speaker 2: wouldn't say yes to a ring pop. Okay, if it's

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Speaker 2: a proposal, a ring pop, would you say yes, that's

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Speaker 1: very tough. Right, is that diamond in the ring pop?

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Speaker 1: can go by myself, I can buy the whole box

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Speaker 1: get proposed to me with. Exactly.

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Speaker 2: But I think it's the notion of how expensive a

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Speaker 2: diamond ring is. So when a guy gets it for you,

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Speaker 1: there are so many alternatives these days, and I think

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Speaker 1: we're not so hot and fast on it. But the

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Speaker 1: set things right, is that modern marriage proposals? Um, basically

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Speaker 1: a marketing scheme by advertisers. It is, yeah. Let me

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Speaker 1: tell you about the most common marriage proposal in Singapore, uh,

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Speaker 1: wannabe deal.

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Speaker 1: there we go. With the ring or no ring, no

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Speaker 1: ring wannabe deal, because you have to wait that long, right?

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Speaker 1: All of them just go,

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Speaker 1: I

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Speaker 2: want to meet you.

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Speaker 2: So, imagine five years video only five years later you

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Speaker 2: get on one knee. You know, you show a ring,

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Speaker 2: it doesn't even have to be a diamond ring to

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Speaker 2: She would say yes, because you already got a house

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Speaker 2: sometimes, but I know what people do that because they

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Speaker 1: right? It's very true. Well, when it comes to how

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Speaker 1: did this even come about? You know, a whole diamond

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Speaker 1: ring kneeling on one knee. It was actually introduced in

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Speaker 1: the 19 forties, it was cooked up by advertisers, right?

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Speaker 1: People started to get engaged with the diamond ring because

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Speaker 1: of this 20th century advertising campaign Casey. What about why

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Speaker 1: men

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Speaker 2: kneel?

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Speaker 2: I have no idea. Okay, until I read this article.

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Speaker 2: So the idea of kneeling on one knee

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Speaker 2: as essential to the standard proposal is not really enshrined

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Speaker 2: in history. It appears to be a largely modern invention,

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Speaker 2: but it's not clear how it originated. So one possible

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Speaker 2: origin can be traced back to a long, long time

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Speaker 2: ago when knights dropped to one knee pushing out of

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Speaker 2: respect for royalty.

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Speaker 2: It's all right.

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Speaker 1: So we're royalty.

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Speaker 2: Maybe how it came about that could be interpreted as

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Speaker 2: loyalty and respect for the future life.

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Speaker 1: No, but okay, let's look at it and the more

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Speaker 1: if you don't look at it this way, right. Let's

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Speaker 1: just say you see

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Speaker 1: Guys are on TV all your handsome opus Huh? Get

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Speaker 2: shouldn't mela wheeler Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Uh you know what I mean? Right visually.

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Speaker 2: It just looks like, but would you wish your mother

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Speaker 2: have to be to go on one knee when they

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Speaker 2: proposed to you? Yeah, of course. Right. For sure. It's

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Speaker 2: like they're presenting themselves to you know, I feel like

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Speaker 2: the whole idea is so sweet because we are the queens. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: exactly. Thank you. Respect and loyalty.

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Speaker 1: No, but okay getting down on one knee. I think

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Speaker 1: what helicopter, right? Live rent out a whole movie theater

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Speaker 2: I've seen one strong here by this man traveled all

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Speaker 2: where he went and the words actually form marry me.

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Speaker 2: So he proposed to his girlfriend. I think there was

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Speaker 2: Is that flashy in your opinion? It is damn effort.

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Speaker 2: Oh my God. It took six months. You know, so

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Speaker 2: travel all the places you know, just on the map.

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Speaker 1: effort. Really effort. I'm sorry. I don't think this episode

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Speaker 1: more about the history of marriage proposals, in your opinion,

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Speaker 1: do you think marriage proposals are important?

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Speaker 1: We actually asked our listeners on Instagram about this topic. Right?

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Speaker 1: And about 83% of them said that proposals are romantic

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Speaker 1: The other 17% for what? Yeah.

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Speaker 1: they think it's an outdated tradition. Like why spend so

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Speaker 2: Okay, I actually asked my ex radio co host, how

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Speaker 2: My ex radio co host. So he says he thinks

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Speaker 2: we call it issue gun. So he yeah, he's only

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Speaker 2: for that sense of ritual to happen. So marriage proposals

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Speaker 1: Okay, well, one of, one of our listeners serene actually

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Speaker 1: we're a soapy stuff because it's a once in a

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Speaker 2: Also, many people say that this is a milestone that

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Speaker 2: this demonstration can be carried out in many different forms,

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of people think that it's very,

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Speaker 2: But importantly, I have to agree with that. There's a

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Speaker 1: correct, correct for me, right? It really is more like

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Speaker 1: um it's once in a lifetime plus this is the

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Speaker 2: who can do this for you. Exactly. There's only one

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Speaker 1: can do this for you if you don't get divorced

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Speaker 1: Ayala, you know you, Sorry, sorry. Injun General General Genero,

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Speaker 1: but you, you know, you come into something like this,

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Speaker 1: you want it to be

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Speaker 1: once in your life, right? Like, you know, like getting

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Speaker 2: right? So

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Speaker 1: once in a lifetime and this is the only person

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Speaker 1: what hazel has said, I think it's nice to happen,

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Speaker 1: you know, Okay, so question here, do you guys think

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Speaker 1: it's weird if a girl proposes to a guy.

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Speaker 2: just, I would love to be proposed to for sure

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Speaker 2: if my friends, my girlfriend's proposed to the other half.

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Speaker 2: Well, nothing. I'm sorry

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Speaker 2: the buck, right? But

457
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Speaker 1: I knew like he was very excited.

458
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Speaker 2: So I

459
00:20:51,750 --> 00:20:52,830
Speaker 1: played along,

460
00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:53,740
Speaker 2: which I don't

461
00:20:53,740 --> 00:20:55,350
Speaker 1: know that I should have not.

462
00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:59,129
Speaker 2: I, I wish I had done it. I think it's

463
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Speaker 2: out of love and respect. They take along

464
00:21:00,780 --> 00:21:01,590
Speaker 1: as well.

465
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Speaker 2: It was nice of you and I think right of

466
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Speaker 2: you to do so,

467
00:21:06,350 --> 00:21:10,679
Speaker 1: okay. And then I just tried to like deal with it, right?

468
00:21:10,690 --> 00:21:13,560
Speaker 1: I couldn't, I was so angry

469
00:21:13,940 --> 00:21:15,670
Speaker 1: and I got so the fact that honestly,

470
00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:18,590
Speaker 1: I was going nuts every time I saw a proposal

471
00:21:18,590 --> 00:21:19,460
Speaker 1: on my timeline,

472
00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:22,560
Speaker 1: I want to kill myself. No, but I'll be like,

473
00:21:23,140 --> 00:21:24,060
Speaker 1: I would tell him,

474
00:21:24,540 --> 00:21:26,899
Speaker 1: but I would not be able to control myself, right?

475
00:21:26,910 --> 00:21:29,400
Speaker 1: How we go on and on and on. And this

476
00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:32,890
Speaker 1: went on for like a long time. Like, okay. So basically, right?

477
00:21:32,890 --> 00:21:35,090
Speaker 1: I was engaged for maybe a year and a half

478
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Speaker 1: a buck on

479
00:21:35,500 --> 00:21:36,859
Speaker 2: it. Okay, okay.

480
00:21:37,540 --> 00:21:38,550
Speaker 2: It went on for a long time. I

481
00:21:38,550 --> 00:21:40,240
Speaker 1: think the whole want to have your

482
00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:43,219
Speaker 1: time and again, I would have this like bust of

483
00:21:43,220 --> 00:21:47,939
Speaker 1: like anger and I'm just like, no, I just didn't understand.

484
00:21:47,950 --> 00:21:51,050
Speaker 1: My main issue was I cannot understand

485
00:21:51,540 --> 00:21:52,460
Speaker 1: why

486
00:21:53,740 --> 00:21:55,360
Speaker 1: you will not just

487
00:21:55,940 --> 00:21:58,730
Speaker 1: do something that is important to me. I think what

488
00:21:58,730 --> 00:22:00,580
Speaker 1: Sf says is really true as well. It's about what

489
00:22:00,580 --> 00:22:04,530
Speaker 1: the girl wants, right? And if, yeah, if you're this

490
00:22:04,530 --> 00:22:07,600
Speaker 1: kind of person, like do something a bit more your style,

491
00:22:07,609 --> 00:22:10,070
Speaker 1: if you're someone that really doesn't care, okay at home

492
00:22:10,070 --> 00:22:13,240
Speaker 1: with the mother, I think that's fine. So here's the kicker, right?

493
00:22:13,250 --> 00:22:15,169
Speaker 1: So I went back and forth and I'm

494
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Speaker 1: on and on and on about it and I'm just

495
00:22:17,020 --> 00:22:19,180
Speaker 1: trying to get an answer. Like why? Like why? I

496
00:22:19,180 --> 00:22:20,060
Speaker 1: don't understand? Like

497
00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:22,420
Speaker 1: I know that's not due to the story and then

498
00:22:22,430 --> 00:22:25,580
Speaker 1: let's get to the truth of this story. Like, you know,

499
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Speaker 1: I just couldn't understand why why. So, I was trying

500
00:22:27,310 --> 00:22:29,879
Speaker 1: to get those answers right? At that point, what made

501
00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:32,370
Speaker 1: it was for me was that he said I thought

502
00:22:32,369 --> 00:22:33,560
Speaker 1: you were just being extravagant.

503
00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:34,670
Speaker 2: Mhm

504
00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:38,710
Speaker 2: mm. Even if you thought that it's not right to

505
00:22:38,710 --> 00:22:39,510
Speaker 2: say it. We want

506
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Speaker 1: to help you. We really we love you at this

507
00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:46,210
Speaker 1: point I pull him ready. The only way out of

508
00:22:46,210 --> 00:22:47,240
Speaker 1: this is a bargain.

509
00:22:47,250 --> 00:22:48,400
Speaker 2: You get me about

510
00:22:48,780 --> 00:22:51,090
Speaker 1: this, right? We have promised you

511
00:22:51,170 --> 00:22:52,520
Speaker 2: money,

512
00:22:52,530 --> 00:22:55,619
Speaker 1: drop in on my money. Okay. Did you get that?

513
00:22:55,630 --> 00:22:56,160
Speaker 1: I don't know yet.

514
00:22:56,340 --> 00:22:57,560
Speaker 1: Oh, not yet.

515
00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:01,220
Speaker 1: Okay. Yeah. So there was this kind of like thing

516
00:23:01,220 --> 00:23:03,070
Speaker 1: right that made me very angry and it was just

517
00:23:03,070 --> 00:23:05,770
Speaker 1: like it went on for months and honestly, so he

518
00:23:05,770 --> 00:23:07,670
Speaker 1: thought that I was being extravagant

519
00:23:08,340 --> 00:23:10,720
Speaker 1: and I was questioning like why am I so hard

520
00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:14,369
Speaker 1: up about this? Am I being demanding? Like what's going on? Right?

521
00:23:14,369 --> 00:23:17,180
Speaker 1: I couldn't find an answer as well and he just

522
00:23:17,180 --> 00:23:18,660
Speaker 1: kept going on about,

523
00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:22,879
Speaker 1: he thought it was okay. First of all, I was like,

524
00:23:22,890 --> 00:23:25,810
Speaker 1: I don't understand, I've said these things right? And he

525
00:23:25,810 --> 00:23:28,260
Speaker 1: just thought that I don't know. He just thought I

526
00:23:28,260 --> 00:23:29,020
Speaker 1: was just just

527
00:23:29,020 --> 00:23:30,629
Speaker 2: saying, saying, just

528
00:23:30,630 --> 00:23:35,330
Speaker 1: saying, which I find a bit weird. Okay, so boys,

529
00:23:35,340 --> 00:23:40,580
Speaker 1: men guys, please listen, listen and take your girl seriously

530
00:23:40,590 --> 00:23:42,500
Speaker 1: when they voice out their feelings. So

531
00:23:42,500 --> 00:23:44,139
Speaker 2: you thought you'd end up buying a Macbook,

532
00:23:44,150 --> 00:23:48,160
Speaker 1: correct, correct? But I never took it any way you can. Exactly.

533
00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:48,369
Speaker 1: And I

534
00:23:48,369 --> 00:23:49,270
Speaker 2: think that investment

535
00:23:49,340 --> 00:23:51,280
Speaker 2: to help myself get over this because this is not

536
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,290
Speaker 2: a healthy thing in a relationship if you keep thinking

537
00:23:53,290 --> 00:23:57,050
Speaker 2: about it. And clearly that's not what you do

538
00:23:57,540 --> 00:24:00,210
Speaker 2: make him by the back and move on really. It's

539
00:24:00,210 --> 00:24:02,810
Speaker 2: a coping mechanism do it. You have to find you

540
00:24:02,810 --> 00:24:05,129
Speaker 2: have to find a point to get

541
00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:10,100
Speaker 1: that's how you

542
00:24:10,109 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 2: yeah, so you lay down to him what you need

543
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:14,920
Speaker 2: to get over this. If he doesn't you really have

544
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:16,859
Speaker 2: to move on. If not you'll be in.

545
00:24:17,340 --> 00:24:18,450
Speaker 2: But he

546
00:24:18,460 --> 00:24:21,770
Speaker 1: tried. He tried because because it's a part two

547
00:24:22,340 --> 00:24:24,510
Speaker 2: to this story. Okay. Okay. The second

548
00:24:24,510 --> 00:24:28,550
Speaker 1: proposal? Yes. Okay. Which to me,

549
00:24:28,940 --> 00:24:30,670
Speaker 1: came way too late.

550
00:24:31,140 --> 00:24:33,880
Speaker 1: Okay. I think. Okay, at that point he still could

551
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,469
Speaker 1: not understand now. He understands what he I know he

552
00:24:36,470 --> 00:24:39,060
Speaker 1: feels very bad about it, but it took him

553
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:40,859
Speaker 1: four years to understand.

554
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:43,490
Speaker 1: So, I feel so bad for laughing. I'm so sorry

555
00:24:43,500 --> 00:24:47,490
Speaker 1: about patience. Is about you everybody. Honestly, I feel like

556
00:24:47,490 --> 00:24:49,490
Speaker 1: I was saying, damn,

557
00:24:51,740 --> 00:24:53,990
Speaker 2: okay, tell us about a second. All right, So

558
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:57,260
Speaker 1: two or 3 weeks before the wedding. Okay.

559
00:24:57,940 --> 00:24:59,830
Speaker 1: This way he never kneel properly. Honestly, I was in

560
00:24:59,830 --> 00:25:01,910
Speaker 1: trash talks again, I can't be well, you know, sometimes

561
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:03,790
Speaker 1: I

562
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:04,850
Speaker 2: wanna scream

563
00:25:04,850 --> 00:25:08,690
Speaker 1: and I had no makeup on. I

564
00:25:08,700 --> 00:25:09,060
Speaker 2: don't know

565
00:25:09,060 --> 00:25:10,359
Speaker 1: why,

566
00:25:11,540 --> 00:25:11,960
Speaker 1: but

567
00:25:12,540 --> 00:25:14,550
Speaker 1: Okay, so I was at work,

568
00:25:14,940 --> 00:25:15,450
Speaker 1: okay.

569
00:25:16,140 --> 00:25:18,859
Speaker 1: Maybe at the time I finished at 10 from not wrong. Okay.

570
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,270
Speaker 1: And then I was it was a friend of mine,

571
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:25,510
Speaker 1: very good friends. And then she said she was downstairs, okay?

572
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:27,900
Speaker 1: So I came out and I was like, sorry, where

573
00:25:27,900 --> 00:25:30,570
Speaker 1: are you? And she was like, oh, you I'm

574
00:25:30,570 --> 00:25:35,409
Speaker 2: on the floor. Okay, so the grass uh floor, there's

575
00:25:35,410 --> 00:25:39,470
Speaker 2: a grass patch that's a huge, very suitable for proposals. Yes,

576
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,010
Speaker 1: Honestly, I cannot ever leave me the common.

577
00:25:42,210 --> 00:25:44,460
Speaker 2: Uh,

578
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:48,190
Speaker 1: so she said, oh, you just come upstairs. I'm

579
00:25:48,190 --> 00:25:49,160
Speaker 2: like, okay.

580
00:25:49,540 --> 00:25:52,000
Speaker 1: And then after a while, I'm sorry. Where you were bitch.

581
00:25:52,010 --> 00:25:54,949
Speaker 1: She's just like, you got your music or not. You

582
00:25:54,950 --> 00:25:55,770
Speaker 1: follow the music.

583
00:25:56,740 --> 00:25:59,400
Speaker 1: He flew the music. So there was one guy standing

584
00:25:59,400 --> 00:25:59,860
Speaker 1: there

585
00:26:00,340 --> 00:26:03,990
Speaker 1: playing the guitar. Oh, no, no, no, no. Not for

586
00:26:04,109 --> 00:26:08,929
Speaker 1: heaven's love cannot. So he did the right thing. It

587
00:26:08,930 --> 00:26:13,650
Speaker 2: outsourced a

588
00:26:13,660 --> 00:26:17,500
Speaker 1: guy, a guy, one guy, I played the guitar and

589
00:26:17,500 --> 00:26:21,060
Speaker 1: then there's a little picnic set up like a

590
00:26:21,540 --> 00:26:24,440
Speaker 1: like at night. Yes. I mean a

591
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:25,770
Speaker 2: cop.

592
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:27,770
Speaker 2: Yes.

593
00:26:28,740 --> 00:26:29,960
Speaker 2: Okay.

594
00:26:29,970 --> 00:26:30,240
Speaker 1: Okay.

595
00:26:30,250 --> 00:26:32,669
Speaker 2: Lamping thing. Okay.

596
00:26:36,540 --> 00:26:37,700
Speaker 2: My friend is,

597
00:26:41,140 --> 00:26:41,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

598
00:26:42,740 --> 00:26:43,960
Speaker 1: It's so funny.

599
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:45,270
Speaker 1: Uh huh.

600
00:26:46,340 --> 00:26:46,540
Speaker 2: Yeah.

601
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 2: Okay.

602
00:26:48,140 --> 00:26:48,860
Speaker 2: Okay.

603
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:50,859
Speaker 2: And then flipping

604
00:26:51,340 --> 00:26:53,350
Speaker 1: my friend is bush,

605
00:26:53,350 --> 00:26:58,560
Speaker 2: is your friend is in the bushes.

606
00:26:59,040 --> 00:26:59,850
Speaker 1: Oh, Lord.

607
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:07,270
Speaker 2: Doing what?

608
00:27:07,990 --> 00:27:09,270
Speaker 2: You know the dire?

609
00:27:10,020 --> 00:27:14,770
Speaker 2: Did you see her in the bushes?

610
00:27:16,140 --> 00:27:16,350
Speaker 2: Okay.

611
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:21,850
Speaker 2: Okay.

612
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 1: Everyone is in a suit. Oh, you got cleaned up.

613
00:27:26,850 --> 00:27:28,510
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, clean. And then came

614
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:29,899
Speaker 2: out and I

615
00:27:29,900 --> 00:27:32,660
Speaker 1: proposed, okay. He gave a speech.

616
00:27:33,140 --> 00:27:34,780
Speaker 2: Uh,

617
00:27:34,790 --> 00:27:39,310
Speaker 1: yes, yes, a better life because they don't have it all.

618
00:27:39,310 --> 00:27:49,150
Speaker 1: I got music music, guitar, guitar. And uh, great. Already,

619
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:50,270
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay.

620
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,770
Speaker 1: I think this has taught us all an important lesson.

621
00:27:53,780 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 1: This is really, I think the real side of things left.

622
00:27:59,540 --> 00:28:01,100
Speaker 2: I agree. And I think we have to give it

623
00:28:01,100 --> 00:28:05,070
Speaker 2: to everyone for not understanding you, but he tries to

624
00:28:05,070 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 2: make up for it by giving you a second proposal

625
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,510
Speaker 2: and the booking correct?

626
00:28:09,510 --> 00:28:13,050
Speaker 1: Still to come, still to come stay tuned. Yes. So

627
00:28:13,050 --> 00:28:16,330
Speaker 1: I know he's trying actually quite recently we had a

628
00:28:16,330 --> 00:28:17,169
Speaker 1: conversation

629
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,670
Speaker 1: um I don't know how it came about but basically

630
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:21,360
Speaker 1: it came

631
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:22,159
Speaker 2: out

632
00:28:22,540 --> 00:28:24,399
Speaker 2: and then he was like, yeah, honestly,

633
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,060
Speaker 1: now that I think about it, I just don't know why.

634
00:28:27,740 --> 00:28:31,370
Speaker 1: And I was like, yeah, honestly the issue is that

635
00:28:31,380 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 1: you're the

636
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,640
Speaker 2: only person who can do this for me. So for

637
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:36,260
Speaker 2: me it felt like

638
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:41,870
Speaker 1: I am baby. Oh what now what now myself a

639
00:28:41,870 --> 00:28:44,590
Speaker 1: long time. I just felt like wow you

640
00:28:44,590 --> 00:28:45,990
Speaker 2: cannot just suck it

641
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:51,060
Speaker 1: up and just you know, so I feel like if

642
00:28:51,540 --> 00:28:54,860
Speaker 1: your partner wants something or um

643
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,820
Speaker 1: I think the issue is or the thing is that

644
00:28:57,820 --> 00:29:00,370
Speaker 1: in this case you're the only person who can do

645
00:29:00,370 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 1: a lot. So just do it if she doesn't want

646
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,300
Speaker 1: a proposal. Okay if you want a proposal, make it

647
00:29:05,300 --> 00:29:08,350
Speaker 1: known my friends. These are real tears her please. Her

648
00:29:08,350 --> 00:29:12,140
Speaker 1: tears are appealing to you from the bottom of her broken.

649
00:29:12,150 --> 00:29:13,940
Speaker 2: Huh?

650
00:29:15,140 --> 00:29:18,070
Speaker 2: But by sharing this story, I think you're saving the

651
00:29:18,070 --> 00:29:21,420
Speaker 2: potential proposals of many couples out there listening to a podcast.

652
00:29:21,420 --> 00:29:26,860
Speaker 2: So thank you Sarah,

653
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,900
Speaker 2: you're getting a Birkin And I think the most important

654
00:29:29,900 --> 00:29:32,660
Speaker 2: thing is a one tries to pick you up after

655
00:29:32,660 --> 00:29:34,690
Speaker 2: work and this we've got to give it to him.

656
00:29:34,690 --> 00:29:35,340
Speaker 2: This is comment.

657
00:29:35,350 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 1: Thank you. Thank you. I love you nonetheless.

658
00:29:38,850 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 2: Okay.

659
00:29:43,140 --> 00:29:44,270
Speaker 1: Okay. So I think

660
00:29:44,740 --> 00:29:47,710
Speaker 1: there are still people that, you know are not like

661
00:29:47,710 --> 00:29:51,100
Speaker 1: us where we think that marriage proposals are really, really important.

662
00:29:51,110 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 1: There are some people and I think one of our

663
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:57,510
Speaker 1: producer as well seize like saying, oh, uh IBT oh

664
00:29:57,510 --> 00:30:00,100
Speaker 1: my you want a video. She sees that as a

665
00:30:00,100 --> 00:30:04,170
Speaker 1: legit marriage proposal. And another of our listeners actually sit.

666
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 1: Well, this is not very important. I prefer to put

667
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,270
Speaker 1: all my time and effort into the actual wedding day.

668
00:30:09,340 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 1: Okay, more people are going to be there and stuff

669
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:12,940
Speaker 1: like that. Okay,

670
00:30:12,940 --> 00:30:15,010
Speaker 2: we need to reach its older, correct Oh

671
00:30:15,020 --> 00:30:21,260
Speaker 1: Yeah, producer L has actually had her ideal proposal planned

672
00:30:21,260 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 1: out since she was 14 years old. That's your yeah.

673
00:30:24,610 --> 00:30:26,460
Speaker 2: Okay. McDonald's when I was 14 men

674
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:27,670
Speaker 2: tell me about it.

675
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:30,650
Speaker 1: Did you dream of your proposal? Were frightened the price

676
00:30:30,660 --> 00:30:33,410
Speaker 1: no matter what you do when you're trying

677
00:30:33,410 --> 00:30:36,810
Speaker 2: to how to get into the entertainment that honey

678
00:30:36,810 --> 00:30:40,620
Speaker 1: you manifested, you did it, you did it. If you're

679
00:30:40,620 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 1: working at Mcdonald's now be like hazel manifest your future

680
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:47,890
Speaker 1: dream big. So for producer L she did not want

681
00:30:47,890 --> 00:30:50,810
Speaker 1: to have conversations about Houses BQ and all that. Okay

682
00:30:50,810 --> 00:30:51,460
Speaker 1: for

683
00:30:51,540 --> 00:30:54,750
Speaker 1: the proposal because she felt that that's really like, you know,

684
00:30:54,750 --> 00:30:57,450
Speaker 1: breaking things that you already know, it's gonna happen and

685
00:30:57,450 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 1: all that, right. Um it's not about the, cause it's

686
00:30:59,920 --> 00:31:02,510
Speaker 1: not about instagram or whatever, right? It's not even about

687
00:31:02,510 --> 00:31:05,310
Speaker 1: the ring, but she just can't get herself to see

688
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:09,260
Speaker 1: getting her house as a type of actual proposal because

689
00:31:09,260 --> 00:31:11,750
Speaker 1: you skipped that whole moment of like, oh, are we

690
00:31:11,750 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 1: going to spend the rest of our lives together? Uh

691
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:19,500
Speaker 1: but in Singapore, right? Like, let's say you wanna move

692
00:31:19,500 --> 00:31:22,730
Speaker 1: out right after you get married, so

693
00:31:22,730 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 2: you get Bto, but you have to wait five years.

694
00:31:25,810 --> 00:31:26,540
Speaker 2: So

695
00:31:26,540 --> 00:31:30,810
Speaker 1: how so that is the situation? Producer Ellis in right now,

696
00:31:30,820 --> 00:31:34,860
Speaker 1: um they bought a house. Her finger is still empty.

697
00:31:35,940 --> 00:31:38,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, correct. But what changed your mind though?

698
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:47,700
Speaker 2: Oh my God, she's broken. Uh Producer girls in the

699
00:31:47,700 --> 00:31:48,070
Speaker 2: house

700
00:31:48,070 --> 00:31:50,690
Speaker 1: boyfriend, please Rome.

701
00:31:50,700 --> 00:31:54,510
Speaker 2: Yes, please give her the proposal that she wants,

702
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,330
Speaker 1: calling them out. Oh my gosh, you have to call

703
00:31:57,330 --> 00:32:01,460
Speaker 1: your husband boyfriend out. Just yes, we'll do it. Shot up. Okay.

704
00:32:01,460 --> 00:32:04,370
Speaker 1: Was shot. But then, right. But then, right, if let's

705
00:32:04,370 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 1: say you go into a marriage proposal and you haven't

706
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 1: really discussed at length because some couples like maybe haven't

707
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:12,390
Speaker 1: communicated

708
00:32:12,450 --> 00:32:16,130
Speaker 2: what if the girl says no, I think all guys

709
00:32:16,130 --> 00:32:20,980
Speaker 2: should go through this face. You know that feeling when

710
00:32:20,980 --> 00:32:23,530
Speaker 2: the girl will say yes or no. So, if you

711
00:32:23,530 --> 00:32:26,350
Speaker 2: already have a Bto said there's no. You know what

712
00:32:26,350 --> 00:32:30,270
Speaker 2: I mean? That's true. It's comfortable. What's the fun in that.

713
00:32:30,300 --> 00:32:31,060
Speaker 2: But you would go

714
00:32:31,060 --> 00:32:33,340
Speaker 1: into a proposal knowing the girl would say yes. What?

715
00:32:33,350 --> 00:32:34,030
Speaker 1: But there have been

716
00:32:34,030 --> 00:32:36,709
Speaker 2: people know it's not true. Yes. There have been people

717
00:32:36,710 --> 00:32:38,770
Speaker 2: who have gone into the proposal and then the girl,

718
00:32:38,770 --> 00:32:40,100
Speaker 2: the jacks, then you

719
00:32:40,100 --> 00:32:43,610
Speaker 1: have a story, a pretty close friend of mine. So

720
00:32:43,610 --> 00:32:47,060
Speaker 1: she was proposed you by her boyfriend, right?

721
00:32:47,540 --> 00:32:52,090
Speaker 1: And she didn't know what to do. I think she

722
00:32:52,090 --> 00:32:55,630
Speaker 2: she hadn't made up her mind, I guess she was unsure,

723
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:56,330
Speaker 2: but obviously

724
00:32:56,330 --> 00:32:58,270
Speaker 1: he didn't pick up on this, right? So he proposed,

725
00:32:58,270 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 1: it was very excited to propose and she hesitated for

726
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:05,300
Speaker 1: a bit and she was thinking like what to say,

727
00:33:05,300 --> 00:33:07,460
Speaker 1: what to do, you know? So she was like,

728
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 1: and he kept going. So, so, so, so and that

729
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 1: pressured her and to say yes.

730
00:33:14,540 --> 00:33:16,610
Speaker 1: So she said yes,

731
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 1: because

732
00:33:18,940 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 1: this guy was just

733
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:21,660
Speaker 1: on it, right? So

734
00:33:21,660 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 2: enthusiastic, correct. It went

735
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:25,250
Speaker 1: on for a while. It because she was, I think

736
00:33:25,250 --> 00:33:28,020
Speaker 1: she had said like, hold on. Like this really took

737
00:33:28,020 --> 00:33:29,770
Speaker 1: me by surprise, give me some time

738
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 1: For maybe like the next 15 or 20 minutes. He

739
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 1: was just going around the house, following her everywhere. So,

740
00:33:38,540 --> 00:33:41,750
Speaker 2: oh, not the wisest move did

741
00:33:41,750 --> 00:33:44,860
Speaker 1: say yes. In the end they were engaged

742
00:33:45,350 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 2: and then she broke it off. I have a very

743
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,590
Speaker 2: close girlfriend, she made it known that she wanted her

744
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 2: proposal to be intimate, cozy. Someone must be there documenting

745
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:56,060
Speaker 2: the entire thing.

746
00:33:56,440 --> 00:34:00,550
Speaker 2: Um what happened was the guy.

747
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,740
Speaker 2: So what happened was this guy proposed to her with

748
00:34:03,750 --> 00:34:06,260
Speaker 2: all friends and family in the room to

749
00:34:06,940 --> 00:34:10,900
Speaker 2: no, no personal intimacy, intimate, kind of like proposal. The

750
00:34:10,900 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 2: complete opposite of what she would have wanted, but because

751
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,649
Speaker 2: so many people were there, she really didn't want to

752
00:34:16,650 --> 00:34:20,780
Speaker 2: embarrass the guy. She said yes, but she called it off,

753
00:34:20,790 --> 00:34:22,660
Speaker 2: she called it off, I could it.

754
00:34:23,140 --> 00:34:26,750
Speaker 2: So everyone was like, congratulating her, everyone's so happy, but

755
00:34:26,750 --> 00:34:27,550
Speaker 2: she knows that

756
00:34:27,940 --> 00:34:30,340
Speaker 2: this isn't the guy for her because she couldn't even

757
00:34:30,350 --> 00:34:33,340
Speaker 2: he couldn't even like, understand what she wants, not just

758
00:34:33,340 --> 00:34:36,710
Speaker 2: in terms of this proposal, like in many daily things

759
00:34:36,710 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 2: in life as well.

760
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 2: Yeah,

761
00:34:39,290 --> 00:34:42,140
Speaker 1: I feel like even though some people think okay proposals

762
00:34:42,140 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 1: are not important, but it does signal a big part

763
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:45,650
Speaker 1: of the relationship

764
00:34:45,650 --> 00:34:49,420
Speaker 2: as well. Exactly. So I asked Velvet about his thoughts

765
00:34:49,420 --> 00:34:51,880
Speaker 2: as well, and he said that he thinks that is

766
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:55,100
Speaker 2: the sign of significance and gesture, especially coming from a

767
00:34:55,100 --> 00:34:56,550
Speaker 2: male's point of view is like

768
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 2: I've confirmed made up my mind that this girl is

769
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:01,350
Speaker 2: the one. So yes, he must do something

770
00:35:01,540 --> 00:35:04,790
Speaker 2: to make the girl feel special and make himself feel

771
00:35:04,790 --> 00:35:07,330
Speaker 2: special as well, because this is the event right there

772
00:35:07,330 --> 00:35:08,860
Speaker 2: special day, the big day. So

773
00:35:09,340 --> 00:35:12,310
Speaker 2: yeah, it's sweet that some guys think this way as well. Yeah,

774
00:35:12,310 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 2: I think

775
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 1: that's a very good point because it's much as, you know,

776
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:16,980
Speaker 1: we've said a lot about it depends on what the

777
00:35:16,980 --> 00:35:19,010
Speaker 1: girl wants, you know, to listen to what the girl

778
00:35:19,010 --> 00:35:20,950
Speaker 1: wants and give her what she wants because you're the

779
00:35:20,950 --> 00:35:24,370
Speaker 1: only person can do it, but it's a match of

780
00:35:24,370 --> 00:35:28,220
Speaker 1: the both of you. Like it's actually for you to,

781
00:35:28,219 --> 00:35:31,060
Speaker 1: you know, it's not just her getting something out of it.

782
00:35:31,340 --> 00:35:33,280
Speaker 1: Um as much as, you know, you have to plan

783
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:34,969
Speaker 1: it and you know, go through all the,

784
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:38,470
Speaker 1: you know, just thoughts and effort everything. But I think

785
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,650
Speaker 1: if the guy can look at it from a standpoint

786
00:35:41,650 --> 00:35:44,910
Speaker 1: where it's for them to like, it's

787
00:35:45,540 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 2: how to say uh, get the proposal right in your life.

788
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:50,760
Speaker 2: So it would really be much easier.

789
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:54,370
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not just for the girl, you know, it's

790
00:35:54,370 --> 00:35:57,630
Speaker 1: for the relationship, it takes two hands to clap and

791
00:35:57,630 --> 00:36:00,650
Speaker 1: we actually asked in an instagram poll, its clarity dot

792
00:36:00,650 --> 00:36:04,969
Speaker 1: co if the proposals that our, you know, clarity, what

793
00:36:04,969 --> 00:36:05,660
Speaker 1: do we call them,

794
00:36:06,030 --> 00:36:06,700
Speaker 2: clarity,

795
00:36:06,710 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 1: Clarity, clarity actually received? Well, more than expected or something regretful, 65%

796
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 1: of them said that the proposals were more than they expected. 35%

797
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:21,170
Speaker 1: said that it was may

798
00:36:21,180 --> 00:36:23,339
Speaker 2: also it actually goes to show that

799
00:36:23,530 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 2: guys or girls put in extra thought into their proposals.

800
00:36:27,230 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 2: They

801
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:31,219
Speaker 1: do a majority of the public's expectations right? Yeah. One

802
00:36:31,219 --> 00:36:35,049
Speaker 1: of them said it was so failed. I nearly walked off,

803
00:36:35,630 --> 00:36:38,880
Speaker 1: call me, we can form a club together produce, they'll

804
00:36:38,890 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 1: hold each other. Someone else said it was a staycation

805
00:36:44,170 --> 00:36:48,060
Speaker 1: private lokey. He asked for my parents formal approval beforehand.

806
00:36:48,060 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 1: Very sweet, very good.

807
00:36:49,730 --> 00:36:52,510
Speaker 2: Okay. Somebody said that she didn't have a dream proposal

808
00:36:52,510 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 2: in mind, only knew that she wanted pixie, which is

809
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:57,250
Speaker 2: her partners dot present

810
00:36:57,430 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 2: and no big big group.

811
00:36:59,530 --> 00:37:03,110
Speaker 2: But the guy brought her on the dark cruz. One

812
00:37:03,110 --> 00:37:07,890
Speaker 2: of her best experiences ever. So sweet. No one present

813
00:37:07,890 --> 00:37:10,410
Speaker 2: but all dogs. She loves dogs. Right. So dot cruise

814
00:37:10,410 --> 00:37:11,629
Speaker 2: is the best thing.

815
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 1: I never Yeah, sounds

816
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:14,310
Speaker 2: fun.

817
00:37:15,130 --> 00:37:18,819
Speaker 2: This person says got pregnant so didn't propose. He said

818
00:37:18,820 --> 00:37:20,969
Speaker 2: he would in the future but it's been three years

819
00:37:20,980 --> 00:37:24,740
Speaker 2: still waiting. So I don't know what to feel about this.

820
00:37:24,750 --> 00:37:26,570
Speaker 2: Are you okay with it? Most importantly,

821
00:37:26,580 --> 00:37:30,090
Speaker 1: doesn't she still waiting is actually still waiting

822
00:37:30,090 --> 00:37:32,010
Speaker 2: but she put an exclamation might be high. So it

823
00:37:32,010 --> 00:37:32,550
Speaker 2: sounds like

824
00:37:32,630 --> 00:37:34,460
Speaker 2: it's been three years still waiting.

825
00:37:35,230 --> 00:37:38,590
Speaker 2: It sounds like she's okay with it. I hope, I

826
00:37:38,590 --> 00:37:40,129
Speaker 2: hope you find your marriage

827
00:37:40,130 --> 00:37:42,180
Speaker 1: proposals have changed so much in the last two years

828
00:37:42,180 --> 00:37:45,270
Speaker 1: because honestly you're not Nokia. Oh yeah,

829
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 2: like a shotgun. A

830
00:37:46,130 --> 00:37:48,750
Speaker 1: lot of people getting into shotgun marriages, which I think

831
00:37:48,750 --> 00:37:50,900
Speaker 1: is completely fine. Like I have no issue with it

832
00:37:50,900 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 1: at all. But it changes the nature of like

833
00:37:54,230 --> 00:37:56,010
Speaker 1: it's like saying we get a house first but if

834
00:37:56,010 --> 00:37:58,670
Speaker 1: you have a kid already, you know that perhaps you

835
00:37:58,670 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 1: want to get married or you have this commitment to

836
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:03,500
Speaker 1: each other. Yeah, I think things are changing a lot.

837
00:38:03,510 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 1: Let's not put so much pressure on ourselves and just

838
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:07,550
Speaker 1: listen to what your partner wants.

839
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:09,649
Speaker 2: Exactly. So speaking of which

840
00:38:10,219 --> 00:38:13,489
Speaker 2: jimmy, how would you like to be proposed to?

841
00:38:13,500 --> 00:38:15,950
Speaker 1: I suppose, I don't care. He said that he's not

842
00:38:15,950 --> 00:38:17,420
Speaker 1: going to change his mind and it's

843
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,779
Speaker 2: up to you share with us. How would you like

844
00:38:20,780 --> 00:38:21,739
Speaker 2: to be? I don't know what he

845
00:38:21,739 --> 00:38:24,740
Speaker 1: has in mind, but like he likes, I don't know

846
00:38:24,739 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 1: if he plans big things for him or for me

847
00:38:27,250 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 1: because when we were in J. C. He planned this

848
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:34,100
Speaker 1: like scavenger hunt for valentine's dealer, like it was very

849
00:38:34,110 --> 00:38:37,060
Speaker 1: over the top for like 17 18 years old me,

850
00:38:37,070 --> 00:38:41,890
Speaker 1: but I enjoyed it drinks and he gave me a

851
00:38:41,890 --> 00:38:44,220
Speaker 1: couple of the asked me to go to the choir room.

852
00:38:44,219 --> 00:38:47,620
Speaker 1: He played piano, sing for me, okay then he owns

853
00:38:47,620 --> 00:38:50,650
Speaker 1: up crying. You're crying?

854
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:51,319
Speaker 1: Yeah.

855
00:38:52,020 --> 00:38:55,650
Speaker 2: Okay.

856
00:38:56,320 --> 00:39:05,719
Speaker 2: Uh oh uh oh uh oh it's this

857
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 1: guy was Maryland, I'm waiting, I got that door my

858
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:11,609
Speaker 1: ring finger with a heart. I'm just waiting for the

859
00:39:11,610 --> 00:39:16,330
Speaker 1: ring and producer elbow if we think where is it?

860
00:39:17,020 --> 00:39:18,890
Speaker 1: I know that I really am not pressuring him at

861
00:39:18,890 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 1: all because of Covid and all that. I know he

862
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:23,500
Speaker 1: wants to do something that's a bit more right. Um

863
00:39:23,510 --> 00:39:26,009
Speaker 1: I know that he has certain requirements. He wants my

864
00:39:26,010 --> 00:39:27,840
Speaker 1: parents and his parents to be there because they're very

865
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:30,420
Speaker 1: important to our relationship. So they have to be there.

866
00:39:30,430 --> 00:39:31,750
Speaker 1: But I did tell him that

867
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:34,350
Speaker 1: I know that you want, you know, more people to

868
00:39:34,350 --> 00:39:36,220
Speaker 1: be there like yo he would want you all to

869
00:39:36,219 --> 00:39:37,770
Speaker 1: be there, you know, I mean, we

870
00:39:37,770 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 2: don't want to be there, we would be there. Even

871
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:44,029
Speaker 2: if you didn't ask us courage. Okay,

872
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 2: our horror brian's camera. Hi there.

873
00:39:48,820 --> 00:39:52,899
Speaker 1: Uh but I told him, okay, there can be people there,

874
00:39:52,900 --> 00:39:56,770
Speaker 1: I'm fine. Like our close tight group. But when you

875
00:39:56,770 --> 00:40:00,380
Speaker 1: do the actual proposal apart from videographer photographer, they're like

876
00:40:00,380 --> 00:40:01,240
Speaker 1: proper ones

877
00:40:01,410 --> 00:40:03,850
Speaker 1: that we need to have a bit more privacy, like

878
00:40:03,850 --> 00:40:06,070
Speaker 1: it can't be like, oh my mother can hear what

879
00:40:06,070 --> 00:40:09,270
Speaker 1: you're saying to me that question. They can watch it

880
00:40:09,270 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 1: in the video, but can there be sort of like

881
00:40:11,910 --> 00:40:13,380
Speaker 1: a bit more of a separation?

882
00:40:13,390 --> 00:40:16,660
Speaker 2: Okay, so maybe the proposal comes first and then everyone

883
00:40:16,660 --> 00:40:21,070
Speaker 2: comes in to congratulate, you know, a bad idea. So

884
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:25,650
Speaker 2: everyone's in the bushes. Hey, hello,

885
00:40:25,660 --> 00:40:28,830
Speaker 1: whatever Jason has discussed the proposal with these two people

886
00:40:28,830 --> 00:40:30,950
Speaker 1: to think here or like said something, but they're just

887
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:31,830
Speaker 1: acting right now.

888
00:40:32,410 --> 00:40:34,710
Speaker 1: Then we Hello Academy of what?

889
00:40:35,070 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, no. So hazy,

890
00:40:40,010 --> 00:40:42,839
Speaker 2: hey, how

891
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:44,630
Speaker 1: would you like to be proposed to

892
00:40:45,410 --> 00:40:46,570
Speaker 1: or how did you dream

893
00:40:46,570 --> 00:40:50,140
Speaker 2: that you be proposed to? Honestly, it's so hot

894
00:40:50,610 --> 00:40:53,790
Speaker 2: to picture a partner in my life at this point.

895
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:55,910
Speaker 2: But if you ask me that question, I think my

896
00:40:55,910 --> 00:40:57,879
Speaker 2: idea kind of proposal would be something a bit more

897
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:00,450
Speaker 2: private because our lives are so public, like I said,

898
00:41:00,460 --> 00:41:03,030
Speaker 2: I get a lot there, I suppose is the real story.

899
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:06,170
Speaker 2: Of course I want this special event to just be

900
00:41:06,170 --> 00:41:08,720
Speaker 2: kept to myself before. You know, I publicize it and

901
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:09,930
Speaker 2: I share with my followers.

902
00:41:10,110 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 2: I think it's very important. The speech is one I

903
00:41:13,969 --> 00:41:17,170
Speaker 2: think a ring is important for me as a diamond ring.

904
00:41:17,180 --> 00:41:18,900
Speaker 2: It does not have to be a diamond ring, but

905
00:41:18,910 --> 00:41:22,350
Speaker 2: it has to be shiny because I love shiny things.

906
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 2: So that's important. I think it's a very sweet form

907
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 2: of appreciation gesture, maybe just

908
00:41:31,510 --> 00:41:33,129
Speaker 2: a small bouquet of flowers.

909
00:41:33,510 --> 00:41:36,259
Speaker 2: Him and I of course I want the whole thing

910
00:41:36,260 --> 00:41:44,940
Speaker 2: to be documented. I think a nice setup like brian,

911
00:41:45,580 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 2: can you imagine that?

912
00:41:46,810 --> 00:41:49,720
Speaker 2: But yeah, I think like a romantic kind of setting

913
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:52,980
Speaker 2: like something you expect a k drama a lot to

914
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Speaker 2: ask for a

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Speaker 1: quite extravagant

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Speaker 2: note. It is very nice podcast that he wanted to

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Speaker 2: be the second

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Speaker 1: one.

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Speaker 1: So season 12 0 will be pregnant and hazel will

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Speaker 1: be people

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Speaker 2: On the # Podcast. nine more seasons to go. Everybody

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Speaker 2: we can do it private intimate is very, very important

923
00:42:18,469 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 2: for me and I think I don't ask for something extravagant.

924
00:42:21,650 --> 00:42:23,819
Speaker 2: I ask for something cozy, comfortable and

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00:42:23,900 --> 00:42:24,839
Speaker 2: since you would

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Speaker 1: you want your parents to be there.

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Speaker 1: Uh

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Speaker 2: huh

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Speaker 2: it's not a mast is not a master, he's not

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00:42:30,350 --> 00:42:32,009
Speaker 2: a mask for me but you would

931
00:42:32,010 --> 00:42:33,739
Speaker 1: want him to have asked them beforehand.

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00:42:33,750 --> 00:42:36,620
Speaker 2: Yes, that is a mass. But I think what he

933
00:42:36,620 --> 00:42:39,410
Speaker 2: says to me is very, very important because this is

934
00:42:39,420 --> 00:42:42,220
Speaker 2: between the both of us. I think not so much

935
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Speaker 2: of our parents because this is his promise to me,

936
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Speaker 2: but of course have to be in the know.

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00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:47,870
Speaker 2: Mm I

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Speaker 1: think what we've heard as well from our listeners is

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00:42:50,030 --> 00:42:51,820
Speaker 1: that one important thing,

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00:42:52,100 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 1: no matter small. Big or whatever, it has to be

941
00:42:55,050 --> 00:42:58,839
Speaker 1: a surprise. That is very important for them. One listener

942
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:02,240
Speaker 1: said that she wants to be proposed to with a puppy,

943
00:43:02,300 --> 00:43:04,890
Speaker 1: a cutie with the puppy the puppy and the

944
00:43:04,890 --> 00:43:11,339
Speaker 2: ring. So cute. The ring degree from the puppy's collar leash, understand. Sorry,

945
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Speaker 2: I thought the puppy

946
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Speaker 2: maybe that's what

947
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 1: she meant.

948
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Speaker 1: But I think as well, let's consider why are men

949
00:43:18,060 --> 00:43:21,730
Speaker 1: the ones expected to plan the proposal and not women,

950
00:43:22,300 --> 00:43:24,209
Speaker 1: We have to try to put ourselves in their shoes

951
00:43:24,210 --> 00:43:27,070
Speaker 1: as well because they haven't been dreaming of their dream

952
00:43:27,070 --> 00:43:28,930
Speaker 1: proposal since they were 14.

953
00:43:28,940 --> 00:43:31,290
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. Yeah. If you will,

954
00:43:31,290 --> 00:43:34,350
Speaker 1: we will do it for you. Really just say Honey. Oh,

955
00:43:34,350 --> 00:43:36,739
Speaker 1: by the way, men explain with our very dear sonya

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00:43:36,739 --> 00:43:38,750
Speaker 1: to is going to be something a little bit more

957
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 1: on this topic reversal why men plan?

958
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:45,049
Speaker 1: But I think when it comes to, you know, uh

959
00:43:45,060 --> 00:43:47,589
Speaker 1: same sex couples for example, I think proposals are very

960
00:43:47,590 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 1: different as well. Like we see a cam and mitch

961
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 1: in modern family where they were both trying to propose

962
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:55,530
Speaker 1: at the same time. Yeah. I think at the end

963
00:43:55,530 --> 00:43:57,209
Speaker 1: of the day, as long as it works for you

964
00:43:57,210 --> 00:44:00,189
Speaker 1: and your relationship don't care about what other people say. Yeah,

965
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:02,590
Speaker 1: both of you must be happy. Yeah.

966
00:44:02,790 --> 00:44:04,770
Speaker 1: It's not that Azura cares about what other people say

967
00:44:04,780 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 1: is that she was not happy.

968
00:44:06,290 --> 00:44:07,009
Speaker 1: That's the problem.

969
00:44:07,690 --> 00:44:11,070
Speaker 1: But now, um, a lot of time has passed. That's right.

970
00:44:11,070 --> 00:44:14,580
Speaker 1: And we'll be waiting for a parking. That's right. We're

971
00:44:14,580 --> 00:44:17,620
Speaker 1: all of its smarter now. Everyone feels smart and now

972
00:44:17,630 --> 00:44:20,750
Speaker 1: he feels regret were

973
00:44:20,750 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 2: okay. And I'm sure he's been doing many things in

974
00:44:23,730 --> 00:44:26,800
Speaker 2: your daily lives to try to make up for it. Right.

975
00:44:27,489 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 2: A good quality in the men.

976
00:44:30,489 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 1: Okay ladies, any last words today for audio hash listeners

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Speaker 1: on marriage proposals in today's society.

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Speaker 1: I

979
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Speaker 2: think

980
00:44:40,390 --> 00:44:43,700
Speaker 2: we need to listen to another story and learn and

981
00:44:43,700 --> 00:44:47,330
Speaker 2: grow from there. Always listen to what your partner needs

982
00:44:47,330 --> 00:44:49,190
Speaker 2: and what your partner wants and try to just give

983
00:44:49,190 --> 00:44:51,710
Speaker 2: her or him that kind of experience because it just

984
00:44:51,710 --> 00:44:54,070
Speaker 2: once in a lifetime it's okay to take a step

985
00:44:54,070 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 2: back and just put in more effort and thought for

986
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:59,610
Speaker 2: this one special proposal I think goes a long, long way.

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00:44:59,690 --> 00:45:00,500
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

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00:45:00,790 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 1: Mm correct. And I think,

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00:45:04,989 --> 00:45:08,340
Speaker 1: yeah, whether or not you're on the camp that it's

990
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Speaker 1: important or not important. I think to which its own.

991
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:13,110
Speaker 1: I think the other day it's between the two of you.

992
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:15,170
Speaker 1: So I think you should listen to your partner make

993
00:45:15,170 --> 00:45:18,420
Speaker 1: the right decisions, you know, and just, mm

994
00:45:18,890 --> 00:45:19,460
Speaker 2: move forward

995
00:45:19,460 --> 00:45:22,290
Speaker 1: together. Move forward together, correct? Because at the end of

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00:45:22,290 --> 00:45:24,799
Speaker 1: the day, I know that there are many more things

997
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:26,500
Speaker 1: that are more important. Maybe you know, some of them

998
00:45:26,500 --> 00:45:29,180
Speaker 1: think that Yeah, this kind of thing is just a gesture.

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00:45:29,180 --> 00:45:31,350
Speaker 1: You know, it's just a bit why young and then

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00:45:31,350 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 1: like what's more important is the marriage or you know,

1001
00:45:33,530 --> 00:45:35,420
Speaker 1: um you got like maybe

1002
00:45:36,090 --> 00:45:38,589
Speaker 1: yes I hate together. Right? So maybe that sort of

1003
00:45:38,590 --> 00:45:42,170
Speaker 1: thinking or maybe like just more practical reasons like house

1004
00:45:42,170 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 1: and stuff. Let me deal with things like that. But

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00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:47,930
Speaker 1: I think um yeah the root of it is probably

1006
00:45:47,930 --> 00:45:50,100
Speaker 1: that it's going to happen once your life

1007
00:45:50,290 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 1: and that you're the only person who can make it

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Speaker 1: happen for the other person. So whether by sea bus

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Speaker 1: it doesn't matter which gender. Very true. Yeah. I think

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Speaker 1: you have to come to a compromise. If the both

1011
00:46:00,550 --> 00:46:04,070
Speaker 1: of you have very different ideas of marriage proposals, just

1012
00:46:04,070 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 1: try to compromise. Like if 11 super flashy won one

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Speaker 1: super intimate me in the middle. That's what a

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Speaker 2: relationship is. I fully agree. And if our harsh listeners

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Speaker 2: out there has any stories to share. We love to

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