1 00:00:00,009 --> 00:00:02,200 Speaker 1: When you walk, I got a boom, boom, boom. You know, 2 00:00:02,210 --> 00:00:03,920 Speaker 1: like why they say that you 3 00:00:04,150 --> 00:00:06,099 Speaker 2: do that and then straight away it will be like, oh, 4 00:00:06,110 --> 00:00:08,140 Speaker 2: how come I so skinny now? Um 5 00:00:09,659 --> 00:00:12,148 Speaker 1: Can I give you PTSD if my mom has to 6 00:00:12,159 --> 00:00:15,770 Speaker 1: feel so sad or so apologetic for me? Right? I would, 7 00:00:15,779 --> 00:00:17,889 Speaker 1: I don't want to ever let someone make me feel 8 00:00:17,899 --> 00:00:18,459 Speaker 1: this way again. 9 00:00:24,989 --> 00:00:27,989 Speaker 1: Hello, everyone. Welcome back to the hotpot where we hop 10 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 1: into different parts of spaces, people find themselves in during 11 00:00:31,010 --> 00:00:33,060 Speaker 1: life transitions. I'm Joey, 12 00:00:33,069 --> 00:00:35,709 Speaker 2: I'm Nick and I'm Q. And before we jump into 13 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:38,250 Speaker 2: today's topic, if you've been watching and listening to the 14 00:00:38,259 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 2: hotpot and been enjoying it so far, please remember to 15 00:00:41,369 --> 00:00:42,860 Speaker 2: subscribe to our channel and 16 00:00:42,869 --> 00:00:47,449 Speaker 1: subscribe. And today's episode is about body image, our fitness 17 00:00:47,459 --> 00:00:50,470 Speaker 1: journey and how we have progressed over the years. And 18 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:51,180 Speaker 1: before we begin, 19 00:00:51,244 --> 00:00:53,615 Speaker 1: we would just like to issue a little trigger warning. 20 00:00:53,625 --> 00:00:57,275 Speaker 1: Uh Today's topic is a little difficult for some people, 21 00:00:57,284 --> 00:01:00,595 Speaker 1: some viewers and even ourselves, we are discussing topics like 22 00:01:00,604 --> 00:01:04,565 Speaker 1: body dysmorphia, eating disorders and body image can be very 23 00:01:04,574 --> 00:01:07,714 Speaker 1: tricky for some. So please approach this episode with caution 24 00:01:08,069 --> 00:01:11,319 Speaker 1: and know that we are all sharing our own experiences 25 00:01:11,330 --> 00:01:13,199 Speaker 1: and what has worked or not for us. 26 00:01:13,209 --> 00:01:15,809 Speaker 2: Ok. So guys, do you all currently work out? What's 27 00:01:15,819 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 2: your regime? Oh, 28 00:01:17,169 --> 00:01:20,250 Speaker 1: wow. Wow. Wow, we're going ok. I think we start 29 00:01:20,269 --> 00:01:24,489 Speaker 1: with this, this gym but I'm not really a gym. I, 30 00:01:24,500 --> 00:01:28,819 Speaker 1: it's been one year in, since I started my gym journey. 31 00:01:29,069 --> 00:01:31,779 Speaker 1: Er, but as of now I try to work out 32 00:01:31,790 --> 00:01:36,759 Speaker 1: 3 to 4 times a week. So three gym sessions Saturday, 33 00:01:36,769 --> 00:01:40,510 Speaker 1: I'll go for like a hit boxing class. Sometimes I 34 00:01:40,519 --> 00:01:44,059 Speaker 1: run but not very often. I hate running. I hate 35 00:01:44,069 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 1: running though, like, so much. 36 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:49,690 Speaker 1: But the fun thing is that I recently completed a 37 00:01:49,699 --> 00:01:53,650 Speaker 1: half marathon. So that was like my biggest achievement this year. 38 00:01:53,660 --> 00:01:56,610 Speaker 1: So much for hating running. No, I really hate running. 39 00:01:56,620 --> 00:01:59,769 Speaker 1: How did you willingly sign up? So, what happened was my, 40 00:01:59,779 --> 00:02:01,849 Speaker 1: one of my friends wanted to do it for fun 41 00:02:01,860 --> 00:02:03,029 Speaker 1: and then she in a group, right? 42 00:02:03,514 --> 00:02:05,964 Speaker 1: And stupid me. I was like, hey, everybody, let's just 43 00:02:05,974 --> 00:02:09,494 Speaker 1: do it before we turn 30. Then all the girls 44 00:02:09,505 --> 00:02:11,714 Speaker 1: in my group said, ok, so I have to go 45 00:02:11,764 --> 00:02:12,145 Speaker 1: through with 46 00:02:12,154 --> 00:02:13,184 Speaker 2: it. So 47 00:02:13,195 --> 00:02:16,975 Speaker 1: nice. I work out my brain a lot. I run 48 00:02:16,985 --> 00:02:19,654 Speaker 1: from a lot of my problems. I, 49 00:02:20,580 --> 00:02:22,770 Speaker 1: yeah. So right now in the phase of my life 50 00:02:22,779 --> 00:02:26,389 Speaker 1: I am not exercising regularly. I'm working to it. I'm 51 00:02:26,399 --> 00:02:28,690 Speaker 1: going to find a balance because previously I kind of 52 00:02:28,699 --> 00:02:30,859 Speaker 1: forced myself to and I didn't like it. Like I 53 00:02:30,869 --> 00:02:33,149 Speaker 1: felt like if I didn't, I felt very like shitty 54 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:36,110 Speaker 1: about myself, but it was very unhealthy, like a not 55 00:02:36,119 --> 00:02:39,179 Speaker 1: sustainable approach. You know what I mean? And plus in 56 00:02:39,190 --> 00:02:41,339 Speaker 1: one of our previous episodes, you mentioned about how you 57 00:02:41,350 --> 00:02:45,050 Speaker 1: are a yoga instructor and I, because I had to teach, right? 58 00:02:45,059 --> 00:02:48,389 Speaker 1: I actually fell out of love of the practice. So 59 00:02:48,399 --> 00:02:50,410 Speaker 1: I'm waiting to like, 60 00:02:50,850 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 1: you know, absence makes the heart grow fonder, 61 00:02:52,970 --> 00:02:57,059 Speaker 2: right? Currently, I work out daily three days a week. 62 00:02:57,070 --> 00:02:59,630 Speaker 2: I will do a circuit or like some form of 63 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:05,389 Speaker 2: cardio and then the remaining four days will be weight training. Wow. Yeah. No. 64 00:03:05,410 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 2: Rest days, it will be active, rest. So one of 65 00:03:07,889 --> 00:03:11,460 Speaker 2: the cardio days will be chill like a walk or 66 00:03:12,309 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 1: you're moving around. But then ok, ok, I will say 67 00:03:15,449 --> 00:03:17,429 Speaker 1: my goal is 10-K steps a day and I hit 68 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:20,119 Speaker 1: my 10-K. So it's actually a very good goal. I 69 00:03:20,130 --> 00:03:23,410 Speaker 1: clock my 10-K. It's actually enough in terms of cardio. 70 00:03:23,419 --> 00:03:25,500 Speaker 1: If you do that every day, I found that too. 71 00:03:25,508 --> 00:03:28,789 Speaker 1: But wow, every day. So we have really like the extreme, 72 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:32,559 Speaker 1: the middle and the zero. This is your scale. Welcome 73 00:03:32,570 --> 00:03:33,679 Speaker 1: to our space. 74 00:03:34,869 --> 00:03:38,529 Speaker 1: Who do you relate to? More? Comment down below and 75 00:03:38,539 --> 00:03:41,699 Speaker 1: down below. Are you zero? Are you mid? Are you extreme? 76 00:03:41,710 --> 00:03:44,100 Speaker 1: But I do have to say that I used to 77 00:03:44,110 --> 00:03:47,139 Speaker 1: not work out at all, I mean, the last time 78 00:03:47,149 --> 00:03:51,539 Speaker 1: I probably worked out before my late twenties was my 79 00:03:51,550 --> 00:03:55,100 Speaker 1: OCC in poly, which is cheerleading. Then ever since then I, 80 00:03:55,789 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 1: like, let go because all along my metabolism was quite high. Skinny. 81 00:04:01,089 --> 00:04:01,839 Speaker 2: I 82 00:04:01,850 --> 00:04:04,690 Speaker 1: was lucky or fortunate enough that I didn't need to 83 00:04:04,699 --> 00:04:08,809 Speaker 1: worry about my weight gain. But only last year or 84 00:04:08,820 --> 00:04:13,119 Speaker 1: two years ago I started realizing age a bit different already. Yeah. 85 00:04:13,130 --> 00:04:15,539 Speaker 1: It really slows down and I feel it, the weight 86 00:04:15,550 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: gain is just more obvious. And then I was the heaviest. 87 00:04:19,209 --> 00:04:19,859 Speaker 1: I was 88 00:04:20,024 --> 00:04:22,904 Speaker 1: last year. So at that point of time, I realized 89 00:04:22,915 --> 00:04:25,045 Speaker 1: I needed to do something about it. I mean, even 90 00:04:25,053 --> 00:04:27,433 Speaker 1: though I went to a hit gym previously, I didn't 91 00:04:27,445 --> 00:04:29,734 Speaker 1: really care so much about my diet or what I 92 00:04:29,744 --> 00:04:31,834 Speaker 1: was eating, I was just eating like fried food every day. 93 00:04:31,845 --> 00:04:34,625 Speaker 1: I don't really care. Yeah, I also consume quite a 94 00:04:34,635 --> 00:04:37,315 Speaker 1: lot of alcohol back then. So things have changed. I 95 00:04:37,325 --> 00:04:41,613 Speaker 1: think COVID also changed a lot for everyone. Yeah. You 96 00:04:41,625 --> 00:04:43,594 Speaker 1: hear the music like what you do. 97 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: But like, I remember working out a lot at the 98 00:04:48,010 --> 00:04:50,420 Speaker 1: initial part of COVID where we were all like, you know, 99 00:04:50,428 --> 00:04:52,260 Speaker 1: trying to on house party, my friends and I will 100 00:04:52,269 --> 00:04:55,220 Speaker 1: work out, we do the dance workouts and stuff. And 101 00:04:55,230 --> 00:04:58,959 Speaker 1: then towards the end, I just kept eating more and 102 00:04:58,970 --> 00:05:00,159 Speaker 1: more and more and more and more. And I was 103 00:05:00,170 --> 00:05:04,488 Speaker 1: also the heaviest I was during COVID. It's actually quite scary. 104 00:05:04,500 --> 00:05:04,529 Speaker 1: I 105 00:05:04,540 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 2: find that when you have these sort of big life changes. Right. 106 00:05:07,850 --> 00:05:08,829 Speaker 2: That's when you, 107 00:05:09,079 --> 00:05:10,980 Speaker 2: when your fitness takes a back seat. So there was 108 00:05:10,988 --> 00:05:13,170 Speaker 2: a period, I think for about two years or so 109 00:05:13,369 --> 00:05:15,730 Speaker 2: where I was just super unhealthy. I didn't exercise at all, 110 00:05:15,738 --> 00:05:18,928 Speaker 2: even though I had the, the knowledge of like, what 111 00:05:18,940 --> 00:05:20,979 Speaker 2: I should be doing. I was just ignoring that, not 112 00:05:20,988 --> 00:05:22,019 Speaker 2: prioritizing it. So, 113 00:05:22,029 --> 00:05:24,130 Speaker 1: what made you take your fitness more seriously this 114 00:05:24,140 --> 00:05:26,579 Speaker 2: year? I'm getting married. So we so I need to 115 00:05:26,589 --> 00:05:28,928 Speaker 2: look nice on wedding day. So that was one motivation. 116 00:05:28,940 --> 00:05:30,959 Speaker 2: But the other thing was like last year I had 117 00:05:30,970 --> 00:05:32,899 Speaker 2: a few health scares. There was one day I thought 118 00:05:32,910 --> 00:05:35,029 Speaker 2: I had a heart attack but actually it is indigestion. 119 00:05:36,140 --> 00:05:40,859 Speaker 2: Do you all know that indigestion can manifest in chest pains? Yes. Yeah. 120 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:44,238 Speaker 2: So you scared? Yeah. So after that, I cannot, cannot 121 00:05:44,250 --> 00:05:45,868 Speaker 2: be unhealthy. Sometimes it 122 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:49,099 Speaker 1: does take a health scare to get you back into it. 123 00:05:49,109 --> 00:05:50,589 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? I feel like even if 124 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:53,140 Speaker 1: you are doing it for aesthetic reasons, right? Like there's 125 00:05:53,149 --> 00:05:56,339 Speaker 1: nothing wrong with, it's a form of self care. I 126 00:05:56,510 --> 00:05:56,539 Speaker 1: feel 127 00:05:57,178 --> 00:05:59,488 Speaker 2: as long as you don't like overdo la because there 128 00:05:59,500 --> 00:06:02,510 Speaker 2: are some people that really like OK, so aesthetics wise 129 00:06:02,519 --> 00:06:04,549 Speaker 2: past a certain point, you know, you really, you are 130 00:06:04,559 --> 00:06:08,079 Speaker 2: entering the realm of like it's never enough, how, how 131 00:06:08,089 --> 00:06:10,690 Speaker 2: good you look is never enough then then it becomes 132 00:06:10,700 --> 00:06:12,420 Speaker 2: a bit dangerous. So as long as you have a 133 00:06:12,428 --> 00:06:13,910 Speaker 2: healthy relationship with, 134 00:06:14,649 --> 00:06:17,500 Speaker 2: you know, working out towards a certain aesthetic, then there's 135 00:06:17,510 --> 00:06:19,769 Speaker 2: a proper balance. And I think that's ok. 136 00:06:19,779 --> 00:06:22,309 Speaker 1: I think the key is healthy because it's fine if 137 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:25,149 Speaker 1: your goal keeps changing because as humans, we are always 138 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 1: striving to improve. As long as it's not harming them. 139 00:06:28,329 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 1: I think it's fine like that's their passion. Like for us, 140 00:06:31,209 --> 00:06:34,859 Speaker 1: we get less extension as a form of self-care. You know, 141 00:06:34,869 --> 00:06:37,619 Speaker 1: maybe we get our nails done, maybe we, some people 142 00:06:37,630 --> 00:06:41,829 Speaker 1: get filer, like people can argue that that is unhealthy also, 143 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: but it is to keep up an outer 144 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:46,519 Speaker 1: appearance. And I see the same to me, I see 145 00:06:46,529 --> 00:06:49,070 Speaker 1: the same as fitness just that there is a health 146 00:06:49,079 --> 00:06:52,239 Speaker 1: benefit as well. So, have you guys always been happy 147 00:06:52,250 --> 00:06:53,100 Speaker 1: with your body? 148 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 2: Wow. No, I think I got some deep rooted like 149 00:06:55,928 --> 00:07:00,959 Speaker 2: body image issues. So I think it stems from being 150 00:07:00,970 --> 00:07:05,079 Speaker 2: a chubby kid, age 5 to 10. I was quite chubby. Er, 151 00:07:05,660 --> 00:07:09,899 Speaker 2: then there was like prime age to get bullied and stuff. Yeah. Yeah. 152 00:07:10,010 --> 00:07:12,929 Speaker 2: And then from ages 11 to 153 00:07:13,410 --> 00:07:16,739 Speaker 2: 17, I was like, I was super skinny because I, 154 00:07:17,329 --> 00:07:20,350 Speaker 2: every day and then like puberty and things like that, right? 155 00:07:20,359 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 2: And then at that point of time I had a 156 00:07:21,489 --> 00:07:24,649 Speaker 2: growth spurt. So then like the weight just stretched out. 157 00:07:24,660 --> 00:07:27,750 Speaker 2: But then after that in Poli, when I wasn't, I 158 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:29,529 Speaker 2: was still playing but not playing as much. Then like 159 00:07:29,540 --> 00:07:33,059 Speaker 2: stress eat and then you, like, you drink and things 160 00:07:33,070 --> 00:07:35,940 Speaker 2: like that, right? Then put on weight again. Yeah, until 161 00:07:35,950 --> 00:07:38,519 Speaker 2: like n si was quite happy with body again. 162 00:07:38,730 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 2: And then when I first entered the workforce again, put 163 00:07:40,929 --> 00:07:44,739 Speaker 2: on weight and had like, had to lose that weight again. So, well, 164 00:07:44,750 --> 00:07:46,549 Speaker 2: it's hard to find the time to say like I 165 00:07:46,559 --> 00:07:48,950 Speaker 2: was truly like, happy with my body. There were points 166 00:07:48,959 --> 00:07:49,339 Speaker 2: where 167 00:07:49,739 --> 00:07:52,529 Speaker 2: it was like four or six pack and things like that, right? 168 00:07:52,540 --> 00:07:56,989 Speaker 2: Conventional male beauty standards by right should be satisfied but 169 00:07:57,059 --> 00:07:59,070 Speaker 2: still will be like actually, I think can be a 170 00:07:59,079 --> 00:08:01,170 Speaker 2: bit like arm can be a bit bigger. That kind 171 00:08:01,190 --> 00:08:03,859 Speaker 2: of shoulders can be a bit broader. Well, now a 172 00:08:03,869 --> 00:08:06,709 Speaker 2: bit skinny, that kind of. Yeah. Yeah. But I think 173 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:10,029 Speaker 2: as I grow older now, I'm a bit more contented 174 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:11,970 Speaker 2: and those things are less important. 175 00:08:12,239 --> 00:08:15,399 Speaker 1: Why do you think you're more contented now? Maybe 176 00:08:15,410 --> 00:08:20,220 Speaker 2: because I attached, is it the reason? Yeah. Or maybe 177 00:08:20,230 --> 00:08:23,850 Speaker 2: because with age, I feel like being physically and conventionally attractive, 178 00:08:23,859 --> 00:08:24,859 Speaker 2: not as important. I 179 00:08:25,019 --> 00:08:29,250 Speaker 1: think it's not important because you've already found someone 180 00:08:29,515 --> 00:08:31,135 Speaker 1: you the impressing has been 181 00:08:31,144 --> 00:08:34,244 Speaker 2: done when you're not in the dating pool. I think 182 00:08:34,255 --> 00:08:35,414 Speaker 2: maybe it will be easier for 183 00:08:35,424 --> 00:08:39,625 Speaker 1: me. I think that growing up, I was always quite 184 00:08:39,635 --> 00:08:42,234 Speaker 1: ok with my body because I mentioned before that my 185 00:08:42,244 --> 00:08:45,645 Speaker 1: metabolism was in my favor. So I never had to 186 00:08:45,655 --> 00:08:46,385 Speaker 1: worry about weight 187 00:08:46,659 --> 00:08:49,599 Speaker 1: but there were other things, other insecurities that I had 188 00:08:49,919 --> 00:08:53,830 Speaker 1: that it's like characteristics or traits that I have, er, 189 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:57,669 Speaker 1: that cannot be changed. You know, I'm not a curvy girl. Right. 190 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:01,130 Speaker 1: I'm not blessed in the chest area. Right. So I 191 00:09:01,140 --> 00:09:04,010 Speaker 1: think when I was younger in secondary school I was 192 00:09:04,190 --> 00:09:07,929 Speaker 1: always teased at by boys and they always say things like, oh, 193 00:09:08,979 --> 00:09:10,349 Speaker 1: airport runway. 194 00:09:10,590 --> 00:09:13,869 Speaker 2: Is that a thing in secondary school? My school 195 00:09:15,409 --> 00:09:18,069 Speaker 1: people say like when you got a boo boo boo, 196 00:09:18,909 --> 00:09:21,859 Speaker 1: you like why would they say that there are guys 197 00:09:22,049 --> 00:09:24,709 Speaker 1: in secondary school? They do that like when girls, right? 198 00:09:25,469 --> 00:09:26,709 Speaker 2: No, no girl in 199 00:09:28,770 --> 00:09:30,679 Speaker 1: my school, when some girl 200 00:09:32,900 --> 00:09:36,270 Speaker 1: I feel like would have participated in this if he 201 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:38,650 Speaker 1: was in a mix school. So you will touch your heart, 202 00:09:38,820 --> 00:09:42,950 Speaker 2: you're speculating, there's no way to confirm this. But 203 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:44,710 Speaker 1: last time the boys in my secondary school, they were 204 00:09:44,719 --> 00:09:48,679 Speaker 1: very brutal. If girls walk by that they thought were 205 00:09:48,690 --> 00:09:49,869 Speaker 1: big and they're not even big. 206 00:09:50,150 --> 00:09:52,609 Speaker 1: They were like boom, boom, boom, they will make this 207 00:09:52,619 --> 00:09:56,569 Speaker 1: sound and it's very sad like being on the receiving 208 00:09:56,580 --> 00:09:57,039 Speaker 1: end of that, 209 00:09:57,049 --> 00:10:01,270 Speaker 2: right? So if you are then you if you're not curvy, 210 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:02,179 Speaker 2: then you apple around 211 00:10:02,190 --> 00:10:05,270 Speaker 1: with Yeah, yeah, I was always labeled as that and 212 00:10:05,739 --> 00:10:09,929 Speaker 1: um even in like my early twenties or like some 213 00:10:09,940 --> 00:10:13,179 Speaker 1: colleagues would say like, oh you like as in they 214 00:10:13,190 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 1: teased me about it and thinking that, oh because she's like, 215 00:10:17,330 --> 00:10:20,489 Speaker 1: I'm very broke girl. I always laughed it off. But 216 00:10:20,849 --> 00:10:25,219 Speaker 1: I've always felt that that was my biggest insecurity. Um 217 00:10:25,229 --> 00:10:28,049 Speaker 1: And even when I was dating people, 218 00:10:28,609 --> 00:10:31,858 Speaker 1: I would feel a bit guilty or apologetic that I'm 219 00:10:31,869 --> 00:10:34,770 Speaker 1: like this. Yeah. So there was this one time a 220 00:10:34,780 --> 00:10:37,450 Speaker 1: guy asked me like, what's your biggest insecurity? And I 221 00:10:37,460 --> 00:10:40,119 Speaker 1: decided to be vulnerable. I told him about it 222 00:10:40,469 --> 00:10:42,659 Speaker 1: and then he said, oh, yeah, that's what I never mentioned. 223 00:10:44,090 --> 00:10:45,679 Speaker 1: It was a very passing comment. I didn't really think 224 00:10:45,690 --> 00:10:48,449 Speaker 1: much about it, but I felt a bit sad at 225 00:10:48,460 --> 00:10:51,890 Speaker 1: the moment and I realized that he was indirectly agreeing 226 00:10:51,900 --> 00:10:53,218 Speaker 1: that this is a flaw. 227 00:10:54,099 --> 00:10:54,479 Speaker 2: It's 228 00:10:54,489 --> 00:10:58,270 Speaker 1: an agreement, right? So over the years, I have always 229 00:10:58,280 --> 00:10:58,780 Speaker 1: told my mom 230 00:10:58,844 --> 00:11:00,635 Speaker 1: things like, oh, I don't like this about myself. I 231 00:11:00,645 --> 00:11:03,184 Speaker 1: don't like that about myself. So my mom was a 232 00:11:03,195 --> 00:11:06,375 Speaker 1: bit guilty and she said, ah, sorry, you look like 233 00:11:06,385 --> 00:11:09,984 Speaker 1: this because of me. She was like, ok, if my 234 00:11:09,994 --> 00:11:13,895 Speaker 1: mom has to feel so sad or so apologetic for me, right? 235 00:11:13,905 --> 00:11:16,244 Speaker 1: I don't want to ever let someone make me feel 236 00:11:16,255 --> 00:11:17,005 Speaker 1: this way again. 237 00:11:17,479 --> 00:11:19,979 Speaker 1: Yeah. So in the past, I would never dare to 238 00:11:19,989 --> 00:11:22,570 Speaker 1: wear tip tops. I've been wearing tip tops on this show. 239 00:11:22,580 --> 00:11:24,469 Speaker 1: I think they look so good on you. Ok? And 240 00:11:24,479 --> 00:11:26,419 Speaker 1: I think you look great. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. But 241 00:11:26,429 --> 00:11:30,369 Speaker 1: I've come to a point where I'm very accepting of that. 242 00:11:30,380 --> 00:11:32,329 Speaker 1: If it's something that I can't change it, I'm just 243 00:11:32,340 --> 00:11:33,109 Speaker 1: gonna accept it man. 244 00:11:36,690 --> 00:11:40,309 Speaker 1: Like no strap one, just one tube inside because it 245 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:42,450 Speaker 1: emphasizes that you know, I have no 246 00:11:42,460 --> 00:11:46,329 Speaker 2: assets. Wow, I did not realize so. Ok. Nothing to 247 00:11:46,340 --> 00:11:46,939 Speaker 2: worry about. 248 00:11:47,650 --> 00:11:50,739 Speaker 1: Yeah. Thank you. Yeah, so that's, that's my biggest insecurity. 249 00:11:50,750 --> 00:11:53,789 Speaker 1: Thank you for sharing that. No worries. Ok. My body 250 00:11:53,799 --> 00:11:57,630 Speaker 1: has always changed. So I think for me like body 251 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:01,608 Speaker 1: dysmorphia only really kicked in when I was older because 252 00:12:01,619 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 1: I realized that my body is always changing. 253 00:12:04,669 --> 00:12:07,080 Speaker 1: When I was a kid, I was almost, I almost 254 00:12:07,090 --> 00:12:10,090 Speaker 1: had to be put on milk, like special milk formula 255 00:12:10,099 --> 00:12:13,679 Speaker 1: to fatten up. So that I'm healthy because I was underweight. 256 00:12:13,700 --> 00:12:16,689 Speaker 1: And then as I got older, I mean, I love food. 257 00:12:16,700 --> 00:12:19,119 Speaker 1: I love eating. I was always fine. I was very active. 258 00:12:19,130 --> 00:12:20,580 Speaker 1: So however much I ate, 259 00:12:21,030 --> 00:12:23,130 Speaker 1: I would work it off when I'm active, right? And 260 00:12:23,140 --> 00:12:27,109 Speaker 1: also when you're young, your metabolism is like pretty high. Again, 261 00:12:27,119 --> 00:12:29,969 Speaker 1: preference numbers don't mean like anything. You can be the 262 00:12:29,979 --> 00:12:32,359 Speaker 1: same way and look very different. But for me as 263 00:12:32,369 --> 00:12:35,590 Speaker 1: a marker, I was 58 kg and when I had 264 00:12:35,599 --> 00:12:39,859 Speaker 1: my first break up, right, I dropped to 54. So 265 00:12:39,869 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 1: there's like 4 kg break up in two 266 00:12:41,969 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 2: months. Of course, you exercise a lot. 267 00:12:43,890 --> 00:12:45,599 Speaker 1: I eat normally 268 00:12:46,479 --> 00:12:48,940 Speaker 1: did not change anything. I think it was dead weight. 269 00:12:48,950 --> 00:12:51,159 Speaker 1: I mean, that relationship, if you watch our video, it 270 00:12:51,169 --> 00:12:55,890 Speaker 1: was terrible. It was terrible dead weight. But so after that, 271 00:12:55,900 --> 00:12:58,079 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, ok. So now I can fit 272 00:12:58,090 --> 00:13:01,020 Speaker 1: into extra small, small and extra small, right? Like, oh, 273 00:13:01,030 --> 00:13:04,199 Speaker 1: this is different. And I, I think because of how 274 00:13:04,210 --> 00:13:06,978 Speaker 1: society has programmed you to think that like smaller is better. 275 00:13:06,989 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 1: I was like, ok, this is a good thing I'm 276 00:13:08,650 --> 00:13:09,659 Speaker 1: blowing up and 277 00:13:09,755 --> 00:13:12,565 Speaker 1: should continue being on this path. Right. So I continued 278 00:13:12,575 --> 00:13:16,724 Speaker 1: to and fast forward. I started being very conscious of my, 279 00:13:16,734 --> 00:13:19,705 Speaker 1: my belly and I was about to meet my now husband. 280 00:13:19,715 --> 00:13:21,655 Speaker 1: But then because we met online, right? I was going 281 00:13:21,664 --> 00:13:23,794 Speaker 1: to fly over to me and I'm like, now I'm 282 00:13:23,804 --> 00:13:27,604 Speaker 1: super conscious of my body. So I decided to lose weight. 283 00:13:27,765 --> 00:13:30,473 Speaker 1: I remember saying to him, oh, I'm so nervous about 284 00:13:30,484 --> 00:13:33,195 Speaker 1: meeting you. You know, I'm very insecure about my belly 285 00:13:33,565 --> 00:13:34,164 Speaker 1: and 286 00:13:34,739 --> 00:13:37,030 Speaker 1: ok, so he didn't mean anything by it but you know, 287 00:13:37,039 --> 00:13:38,419 Speaker 1: like sometimes harmless, right? 288 00:13:39,059 --> 00:13:40,820 Speaker 2: Yeah, sometimes we don't know, but he's 289 00:13:40,830 --> 00:13:43,179 Speaker 1: also very healthy. So to him, he didn't understand why 290 00:13:43,190 --> 00:13:45,429 Speaker 1: because I said I'm quite small but I have a belly. 291 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:46,869 Speaker 1: So he said why I said, I don't know, 292 00:13:48,409 --> 00:13:51,348 Speaker 1: but he was a more innocent, innocent 293 00:13:53,369 --> 00:13:54,119 Speaker 2: diagnose you 294 00:13:55,039 --> 00:13:58,780 Speaker 1: typically. So then I was like, OK, I cut out 295 00:13:58,789 --> 00:14:01,669 Speaker 1: sugar and I dropped to 50 kg. So I became 296 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:05,030 Speaker 1: a 24 waist. I went from 26 27 to 24. 297 00:14:05,059 --> 00:14:07,179 Speaker 1: But at that time, I was still living in my 298 00:14:07,190 --> 00:14:10,510 Speaker 1: 26 waist era to the point I go Boogie Street. Right. 299 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:13,429 Speaker 1: Then I always asked whether I got size and usually 300 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:16,140 Speaker 1: don't have because I'm quite curvy, heavy, 301 00:14:16,364 --> 00:14:18,784 Speaker 1: quite heavy on the bottom. Ok. I got a blue 302 00:14:18,934 --> 00:14:24,094 Speaker 1: there and then they will always tell me they will 303 00:14:24,114 --> 00:14:28,044 Speaker 1: always let it, then they will give me L or X. 304 00:14:28,065 --> 00:14:33,184 Speaker 1: Then it's a bit like to your heart. I'm reminding 305 00:14:33,195 --> 00:14:35,655 Speaker 1: myself like there's nothing wrong with being a large. It's 306 00:14:35,664 --> 00:14:38,075 Speaker 1: just the way they say it also is a bit 307 00:14:38,085 --> 00:14:44,854 Speaker 1: like harmful, right? They always turn around. Yeah. So, so 308 00:14:44,864 --> 00:14:45,455 Speaker 1: I was like, 309 00:14:45,719 --> 00:14:47,719 Speaker 1: I went, I remember going to Bugis Street right. Then 310 00:14:47,729 --> 00:14:49,700 Speaker 1: I asked her but my size don't have one. She said, 311 00:14:50,799 --> 00:14:52,659 Speaker 1: and then she gave me a s and it fit 312 00:14:55,250 --> 00:14:55,590 Speaker 1: part. 313 00:14:58,359 --> 00:15:03,750 Speaker 1: Let's go. What would be your last meal on earth? Wow. Ok. 314 00:15:04,469 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 1: KFC Coleslaw, mashed potatoes, cheese, fries, corn on the cob 315 00:15:09,530 --> 00:15:11,809 Speaker 1: onion rings. Dr pepper 316 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:16,859 Speaker 1: blast from Taco Bell fries your last meal. I want 317 00:15:16,869 --> 00:15:19,669 Speaker 1: to make it counter. What is your first impression of 318 00:15:19,679 --> 00:15:24,380 Speaker 1: the person on your left? Joey. Joey was a very 319 00:15:24,390 --> 00:15:27,820 Speaker 1: warm and kind and welcoming person. I met her through 320 00:15:27,830 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 1: work and she had a voice like an angel. 321 00:15:31,289 --> 00:15:31,979 Speaker 2: Boring. Yeah. 322 00:15:35,359 --> 00:15:35,979 Speaker 2: Disgusting. 323 00:15:36,590 --> 00:15:38,530 Speaker 1: Disgusting. Not in sync. 324 00:15:39,119 --> 00:15:41,890 Speaker 2: What is your morning routine? Oh, ok. I will drink 325 00:15:41,900 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 2: 500 ml of water. I will have a cup of coffee. 326 00:15:45,989 --> 00:15:50,650 Speaker 2: Uh Half a banana with a scoop. Of protein powder 327 00:15:50,679 --> 00:15:53,359 Speaker 2: in a shape. Ok. Um And then I will go 328 00:15:53,369 --> 00:15:53,890 Speaker 2: and work out. 329 00:15:54,989 --> 00:15:57,919 Speaker 1: But how did that make you feel? I felt good 330 00:15:57,929 --> 00:16:03,309 Speaker 1: because I don't want to blame society but witnessing like 331 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:07,179 Speaker 1: all the, the, the societal standards, right? We grew up 332 00:16:07,190 --> 00:16:09,859 Speaker 1: with it. You see as a good thing, people always 333 00:16:09,869 --> 00:16:12,549 Speaker 1: compliment you when you lose weight. You know, every time 334 00:16:12,559 --> 00:16:13,869 Speaker 1: you lose weight, people are like, oh my God, you 335 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 1: look so good. What do you change? But it got 336 00:16:15,890 --> 00:16:18,719 Speaker 1: to a point where people were asking my best friend 337 00:16:18,729 --> 00:16:22,630 Speaker 1: like is joy, right? She looks sickly, you know, because 338 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:24,359 Speaker 1: I dropped from 58 to 50 339 00:16:24,789 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 1: in a span of like four months. That's a lot. 340 00:16:26,969 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 1: So you can see my older photos. I was very bony. 341 00:16:29,530 --> 00:16:32,409 Speaker 1: I was very small and then I started to feel 342 00:16:32,419 --> 00:16:35,869 Speaker 1: like I was neglecting my my curves, you know, being 343 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:38,349 Speaker 1: thick was suddenly in, right? And I'm like, hey, I've 344 00:16:38,359 --> 00:16:40,929 Speaker 1: been thick all my life, but I've been shamed for 345 00:16:40,940 --> 00:16:43,500 Speaker 1: it like this is so crazy. Like why are we 346 00:16:43,510 --> 00:16:46,830 Speaker 1: following trends suddenly being thick is in? So I kid 347 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:48,979 Speaker 1: you not, right. This is when now I recognize I 348 00:16:48,989 --> 00:16:51,719 Speaker 1: was very unhealthy actually. Then I recognized I was unhealthy. 349 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:54,289 Speaker 1: I wanted to put on the weight because I felt 350 00:16:54,299 --> 00:16:54,590 Speaker 1: like 351 00:16:55,020 --> 00:16:57,369 Speaker 1: I am skinny, but I've never identified as skinny. I 352 00:16:57,380 --> 00:17:00,330 Speaker 1: don't feel like I am me anymore. So I would 353 00:17:00,340 --> 00:17:04,500 Speaker 1: force two portions of food every meal. So, like, instead 354 00:17:04,510 --> 00:17:06,698 Speaker 1: of one bowl, I eat two bowls of white rice 355 00:17:06,709 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 1: and even though I was full I would force. Yes, 356 00:17:08,810 --> 00:17:11,369 Speaker 1: I got bigger but because it's so fast it's a 357 00:17:11,380 --> 00:17:16,130 Speaker 1: bit unhealthy also. Yeah. And, er, yeah, so body dysmorphia 358 00:17:16,140 --> 00:17:16,810 Speaker 1: is really like, 359 00:17:17,540 --> 00:17:20,060 Speaker 1: it still blows my mind till today. I've never been 360 00:17:20,069 --> 00:17:24,430 Speaker 1: diagnosed with body dysmorphia, but I feel like I definitely 361 00:17:24,439 --> 00:17:27,989 Speaker 1: had symptoms, you know, because I would use my clothes 362 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:30,300 Speaker 1: as a gauge. And then I'm like, I thought I 363 00:17:30,310 --> 00:17:32,180 Speaker 1: was extra small, but actually my extra small is like 364 00:17:32,189 --> 00:17:34,969 Speaker 1: last year. So when I put on the weight, right? 365 00:17:35,390 --> 00:17:38,859 Speaker 1: And I tried my 24 I felt so fat because 366 00:17:38,869 --> 00:17:40,540 Speaker 1: I was like, wait, I can't fit 24 anymore. What 367 00:17:40,550 --> 00:17:43,199 Speaker 1: have I done? But I'm like, I was never meant 368 00:17:43,209 --> 00:17:45,430 Speaker 1: to fit the 24. The 24 was when I dropped 369 00:17:45,439 --> 00:17:48,829 Speaker 1: drastically and it wasn't a healthy change either. So now 370 00:17:48,839 --> 00:17:51,770 Speaker 1: I am in the sixties, you know, but I have 371 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:53,750 Speaker 1: never felt happier 372 00:17:53,810 --> 00:17:58,399 Speaker 2: aside from the mental and emotional struggle, right? Actually, like 373 00:17:58,410 --> 00:18:01,410 Speaker 2: physical discomfort is the other one as well because I 374 00:18:01,420 --> 00:18:03,300 Speaker 2: remember there was a point where I was like, ok, 375 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:07,369 Speaker 2: let's see how far I can like push this fitness journey, right? 376 00:18:07,430 --> 00:18:10,939 Speaker 2: So then I was very fixated on like getting to 377 00:18:10,949 --> 00:18:12,270 Speaker 2: a single digit body fat 378 00:18:12,750 --> 00:18:16,680 Speaker 2: like percentage. So in N SI was 8% body fat. 379 00:18:16,790 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 2: So at the point of time, really full, like six 380 00:18:19,010 --> 00:18:22,689 Speaker 2: pack like that then, like the face really, like, was 381 00:18:22,699 --> 00:18:27,079 Speaker 2: a bit. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Just like bones. So when 382 00:18:27,089 --> 00:18:28,229 Speaker 2: I look at m, I was like, wow, ok. I 383 00:18:28,250 --> 00:18:31,349 Speaker 2: pop in and things like that. Right. But what I 384 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:36,339 Speaker 2: felt terrible physically so I couldn't lift as heavy. I 385 00:18:36,349 --> 00:18:38,400 Speaker 2: couldn't run as fast. Like, 386 00:18:39,050 --> 00:18:41,300 Speaker 2: I just felt tired all the time. I was, like, 387 00:18:41,310 --> 00:18:44,448 Speaker 2: constantly grumpy and then you just very like, yeah, you 388 00:18:44,459 --> 00:18:46,900 Speaker 2: just don't feel great after reading up a bit more, 389 00:18:46,910 --> 00:18:49,020 Speaker 2: then you realize that, you know, even body builders, they 390 00:18:49,030 --> 00:18:52,589 Speaker 2: don't carry that, that single digit body fat all year 391 00:18:52,599 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 2: round but not made to 392 00:18:55,650 --> 00:18:59,790 Speaker 1: it. Yeah. And especially as women too, we have many 393 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:03,109 Speaker 1: phases in our menstrual cycle that affect the way we 394 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:06,729 Speaker 1: eat the foods we crave the Yeah, and the way 395 00:19:06,739 --> 00:19:10,119 Speaker 1: we process food like we bloat certain days, right? And 396 00:19:10,130 --> 00:19:13,180 Speaker 1: I think it's so important to realize that your best 397 00:19:13,189 --> 00:19:16,369 Speaker 1: looks different every day. You know, like maybe your best 398 00:19:16,380 --> 00:19:21,439 Speaker 1: yesterday was you run like nine seconds today. Maybe meters. 399 00:19:23,489 --> 00:19:28,900 Speaker 1: Don't worry. I'm watching, I'm watching more record. So I remember, ok, 400 00:19:28,910 --> 00:19:31,010 Speaker 1: maybe like what 15, 401 00:19:33,270 --> 00:19:33,660 Speaker 2: maybe 402 00:19:33,670 --> 00:19:38,869 Speaker 1: your 2.4 is like, you know, usually 11, then maybe 403 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:43,290 Speaker 1: today 15 is fine. Ok. Bible question. Have your 404 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 1: gotten fat shamed by family members or friends? Yeah. 405 00:19:46,810 --> 00:19:49,459 Speaker 2: Every, every, every year Chinese New Year you put on 406 00:19:49,469 --> 00:19:51,469 Speaker 2: weight or lose weight, you will get shamed. Like if 407 00:19:51,479 --> 00:19:54,250 Speaker 2: I'm training for something ibbd is coming. Then I will 408 00:19:54,260 --> 00:19:57,569 Speaker 2: be a bit fitter and then it will be like, oh, 409 00:19:57,579 --> 00:19:58,889 Speaker 2: how come so skinny? Now 410 00:20:01,630 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 1: give you 411 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:07,369 Speaker 2: PD then after that, like, if I meet them when 412 00:20:07,380 --> 00:20:09,069 Speaker 2: I'm not training for, like, 413 00:20:09,699 --> 00:20:10,989 Speaker 2: when you put on the weight, right. 414 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:17,810 Speaker 1: Why do people feel the need to call out your 415 00:20:17,819 --> 00:20:19,010 Speaker 1: weight immediately? Because 416 00:20:21,199 --> 00:20:21,530 Speaker 2: you think 417 00:20:21,540 --> 00:20:24,869 Speaker 1: it's, I don't think it's, I just think it's convenient 418 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:28,250 Speaker 1: to just start a conversation. And it's 419 00:20:28,344 --> 00:20:30,415 Speaker 1: first thing that they see and one thing 420 00:20:30,425 --> 00:20:33,604 Speaker 2: is also carried, carried over from when you were very young, 421 00:20:33,614 --> 00:20:35,704 Speaker 2: like when you are a baby and a toddler and 422 00:20:35,714 --> 00:20:38,614 Speaker 2: you literally cannot talk and no, no, like you're not 423 00:20:38,625 --> 00:20:41,194 Speaker 2: even aware, right? Then they will make that kind of comments. 424 00:20:41,204 --> 00:20:43,054 Speaker 2: It was so cute, so fat, that kind of thing. 425 00:20:43,324 --> 00:20:45,864 Speaker 2: And then it just carries that dynamic carries on into 426 00:20:45,875 --> 00:20:48,974 Speaker 2: adulthood where, oh Q is someone that I can comment 427 00:20:48,984 --> 00:20:50,555 Speaker 2: about her way on because I said it when she 428 00:20:50,564 --> 00:20:52,435 Speaker 2: was a baby. So she never thought about 429 00:20:52,444 --> 00:20:57,295 Speaker 1: it that way. Actually, I am guilty for like in 430 00:20:57,305 --> 00:20:57,974 Speaker 1: the past 431 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:01,349 Speaker 1: when my male friends gain weight, I will just jokingly 432 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:04,579 Speaker 1: say it but ok, I'm so sorry, sorry for my 433 00:21:04,589 --> 00:21:06,969 Speaker 1: younger self. But I feel like everyone had that like 434 00:21:06,979 --> 00:21:10,890 Speaker 1: we all probably mentioned about someone's weight before, but now 435 00:21:10,900 --> 00:21:13,770 Speaker 1: I tend to be more careful like it might not 436 00:21:13,780 --> 00:21:16,339 Speaker 1: be a compliment either if you're talking about someone who's 437 00:21:16,349 --> 00:21:19,920 Speaker 1: losing weight because they could be doing it 438 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:23,739 Speaker 1: unhealthily with a disorder and then you are, you are 439 00:21:23,750 --> 00:21:26,839 Speaker 1: triggering them. They feel like shit doing it, but then 440 00:21:26,849 --> 00:21:28,890 Speaker 1: someone is complimenting they like, I must keep doing it 441 00:21:28,900 --> 00:21:30,969 Speaker 1: and maybe their goal is not to be skinny or 442 00:21:30,979 --> 00:21:34,300 Speaker 1: like to be that, that version of themselves. Yeah. So 443 00:21:34,310 --> 00:21:36,729 Speaker 1: I think we just need to be careful about pointing, 444 00:21:36,739 --> 00:21:39,688 Speaker 1: just commenting on people's bodies. For example, there are some 445 00:21:39,699 --> 00:21:41,349 Speaker 1: people who just cannot put on weight, 446 00:21:42,079 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 1: you keep calling someone. Are you too skinny already? 447 00:21:44,050 --> 00:21:47,050 Speaker 2: On that note, right? I think for guys, the hidden 448 00:21:47,060 --> 00:21:49,669 Speaker 2: struggle is that there's a lot of body shaming also. 449 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:51,670 Speaker 2: So I was just thinking about it because like even 450 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,369 Speaker 2: in a boys school, right, the dudes that were chubbier 451 00:21:54,579 --> 00:21:57,609 Speaker 2: and the dudes that were like super skinny, they will 452 00:21:57,619 --> 00:22:00,199 Speaker 2: also get made fun of because like when you are skinny, 453 00:22:00,209 --> 00:22:02,369 Speaker 2: then you are being perceived as like you cannot live 454 00:22:02,380 --> 00:22:03,530 Speaker 2: as much or like, 455 00:22:03,849 --> 00:22:05,899 Speaker 2: yeah, you have no muscles and things like that. And 456 00:22:05,910 --> 00:22:10,169 Speaker 2: then obviously when you're chubby then yeah, it's the traditional 457 00:22:10,180 --> 00:22:14,290 Speaker 2: body shaming but then even skinny dudes or skinny people 458 00:22:14,300 --> 00:22:17,948 Speaker 2: also get made fun of. So it's true, quite vicious actually. 459 00:22:17,959 --> 00:22:20,409 Speaker 1: Isn't it rough? Right? Like in primary school, there was 460 00:22:20,420 --> 00:22:23,959 Speaker 1: this thing called Tough Club to Club. This 461 00:22:24,010 --> 00:22:30,250 Speaker 2: was the branding for Tough Club. It's literally like, you know, 462 00:22:31,135 --> 00:22:33,244 Speaker 2: it spelled backwards. That's why people always make fun last 463 00:22:33,255 --> 00:22:34,045 Speaker 2: time it's trim 464 00:22:34,055 --> 00:22:36,004 Speaker 1: and fit, but it's just fat spelled backwards. 465 00:22:36,314 --> 00:22:39,204 Speaker 2: So then you segregate these kids and then it's like 466 00:22:39,214 --> 00:22:41,805 Speaker 2: everybody knows that you are a big show of like, 467 00:22:41,814 --> 00:22:43,905 Speaker 2: you know, them being separated out from the rest. Oh, 468 00:22:43,915 --> 00:22:48,145 Speaker 1: it's so harmful to their psyche. And it's just teaching 469 00:22:48,155 --> 00:22:50,795 Speaker 1: them that like you have to work to eat because 470 00:22:50,805 --> 00:22:53,744 Speaker 1: if you don't run you cannot eat. Recess. Oh my God. Wait, 471 00:22:55,454 --> 00:22:57,244 Speaker 1: doing recess. So you must run first, then you can 472 00:22:57,255 --> 00:22:58,364 Speaker 1: go and eat. And I'm like, 473 00:22:59,430 --> 00:23:01,609 Speaker 1: oh, this is so harmful and I'm so glad that 474 00:23:01,619 --> 00:23:02,599 Speaker 1: schools have removed 475 00:23:02,609 --> 00:23:05,239 Speaker 2: it. They rebranded it to some other name. Then after 476 00:23:05,250 --> 00:23:06,150 Speaker 2: that now it's like 477 00:23:06,550 --> 00:23:10,479 Speaker 2: removed completely and absorbed into P I think. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 478 00:23:10,489 --> 00:23:13,409 Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh my goodness. What a nightmare. So how is 479 00:23:13,420 --> 00:23:16,449 Speaker 1: your relationship with food? Actually, I think in the we 480 00:23:16,459 --> 00:23:20,619 Speaker 1: always have this misconception that carbs are bad or like, oh, 481 00:23:20,630 --> 00:23:22,300 Speaker 1: if you want to get leaner, then you must protein, 482 00:23:22,310 --> 00:23:25,839 Speaker 1: protein like this, this, this drink of protein, this everything 483 00:23:25,849 --> 00:23:28,290 Speaker 1: of protein. Like I feel like everything needs to be 484 00:23:28,300 --> 00:23:31,329 Speaker 1: taken in moderation. That that's what the pyramid is for, right? 485 00:23:31,339 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 1: That's the health health pyramid. But 486 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:38,329 Speaker 1: one thing I learned through tiktok is a don't restrict. 487 00:23:38,650 --> 00:23:41,869 Speaker 1: So if you want something sweet, then OK, you add 488 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,790 Speaker 1: like a little bit, it's about moderation, right? And I 489 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:46,698 Speaker 1: love that. It's like I really want a chip and 490 00:23:46,709 --> 00:23:48,420 Speaker 1: we are like Oh, I really want a chip but 491 00:23:48,430 --> 00:23:50,129 Speaker 1: I shouldn't. Ok, fine. I'll do it. I eat a 492 00:23:50,140 --> 00:23:53,708 Speaker 1: whole bag. Like, it's not about that. You can eat 493 00:23:53,719 --> 00:23:56,839 Speaker 1: like a handful, you know. So I started doing that. Like, 494 00:23:56,849 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 1: I was like, ok, if I feel like having a 495 00:23:57,930 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 1: chip then I will. I started listening to my body 496 00:24:00,010 --> 00:24:02,619 Speaker 1: a lot. I also used to be a vegan. I 497 00:24:02,630 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 1: became a vegan for a year and a half and 498 00:24:05,290 --> 00:24:05,719 Speaker 1: people think 499 00:24:05,810 --> 00:24:09,260 Speaker 1: veganism will make you skinny. Right. I was the biggest 500 00:24:09,270 --> 00:24:11,979 Speaker 1: in my life because of veganism because there's so much 501 00:24:11,989 --> 00:24:13,989 Speaker 1: food I can't eat. So I just eat cups, I 502 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:17,270 Speaker 1: ate rice with potato and other kind of potato and 503 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:20,510 Speaker 1: then chips and fries. It was very unhealthy. Right. And 504 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:21,859 Speaker 1: I decided, you know, I'm just going to listen to 505 00:24:21,869 --> 00:24:25,300 Speaker 1: my body. So, my, my relationship with food now is great. 506 00:24:25,310 --> 00:24:29,979 Speaker 1: I feel, er, I have the tendency to binge. I 507 00:24:29,989 --> 00:24:32,599 Speaker 1: know I have so I will stop myself 508 00:24:32,969 --> 00:24:34,839 Speaker 1: eating a variety is, you know, I like to eat 509 00:24:34,849 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 1: a lot of like different kinds of foods. Right. So 510 00:24:36,810 --> 00:24:40,389 Speaker 1: I just eat a bit of everything instead of eat everything. 511 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:42,910 Speaker 1: And then, like, after a year 512 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:44,540 Speaker 2: and a half ago I started to take my diet 513 00:24:44,550 --> 00:24:48,979 Speaker 2: more seriously. So I, because I was more focused on 514 00:24:48,989 --> 00:24:52,189 Speaker 2: fitness and like athletic performance. Right. So I was eating 515 00:24:52,199 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 2: quite a high protein diet. I had a recent health 516 00:24:54,530 --> 00:24:57,890 Speaker 2: checkup and then my triglyceride is quite high. Yeah. 517 00:24:57,900 --> 00:24:59,540 Speaker 1: His trice is very high. 518 00:25:00,829 --> 00:25:04,030 Speaker 2: There are three main things to measure your cholesterol. Your HDL, 519 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:07,099 Speaker 2: which is your good cholesterol, I think LDL, which is 520 00:25:07,109 --> 00:25:11,810 Speaker 2: your bad cholesterol and then your triglycerides. So, triglycerides basically 521 00:25:11,819 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 2: not good. LA will cause like some clogging in your arteries. 522 00:25:17,239 --> 00:25:20,129 Speaker 2: It's some hard thing. Lah. So, er, I was like, hey, 523 00:25:20,140 --> 00:25:21,430 Speaker 2: how can it be? I work out so much. I 524 00:25:21,439 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 2: eat quite clean but turns out that you cannot eating 525 00:25:24,530 --> 00:25:28,010 Speaker 2: too much red meat will cost. So I was eating 526 00:25:28,020 --> 00:25:29,010 Speaker 2: a lot of steaks and 527 00:25:29,180 --> 00:25:31,050 Speaker 2: I know that I need to like a good life 528 00:25:31,060 --> 00:25:33,939 Speaker 1: though. You look good. I haven't known you for long 529 00:25:33,949 --> 00:25:36,439 Speaker 1: but you look very healthy. Thank you. He got the first, 530 00:25:36,709 --> 00:25:42,239 Speaker 1: the first compliment you given in the last. Like no, 531 00:25:42,250 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 1: but I think for me, I've never really had an 532 00:25:44,290 --> 00:25:50,880 Speaker 1: unhealthy relationship with food. I got a PT about four months, 533 00:25:50,890 --> 00:25:54,310 Speaker 1: five months ago because I was the heaviest I've ever been. 534 00:25:54,420 --> 00:25:56,140 Speaker 1: There was just this one period of time where I 535 00:25:56,150 --> 00:25:57,790 Speaker 1: realized when I look in the mirror, 536 00:25:58,420 --> 00:26:01,229 Speaker 1: even after doing my lashes, even after doing my hair, 537 00:26:01,239 --> 00:26:03,708 Speaker 1: I felt ugly, I just felt like I was not 538 00:26:03,719 --> 00:26:06,829 Speaker 1: attractive and I know that something was wrong, like something, 539 00:26:06,839 --> 00:26:09,900 Speaker 1: something about me or something that I'm doing is just 540 00:26:09,910 --> 00:26:12,859 Speaker 1: not right and I realize that it's the way I'm eating. 541 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,369 Speaker 1: So because I was in some sense, spoil right growing 542 00:26:16,380 --> 00:26:19,810 Speaker 1: up that I can eat anything, everything. Yeah, I took 543 00:26:19,819 --> 00:26:22,449 Speaker 1: it for granted. I mean, at this age I still 544 00:26:22,459 --> 00:26:25,859 Speaker 1: eat everything and anything I wanted. But I realized that 545 00:26:26,219 --> 00:26:29,770 Speaker 1: there was a lot of oily food and fried food. So, 546 00:26:29,780 --> 00:26:32,310 Speaker 1: since I got my PT I've cut down a bit 547 00:26:32,319 --> 00:26:37,589 Speaker 1: on carbs and also was more aware of the fried 548 00:26:37,599 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 1: food I was eating and because I'm working towards my 549 00:26:40,569 --> 00:26:45,030 Speaker 1: fitness journey. Right. Subconsciously, it also told me to not 550 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:49,380 Speaker 1: waste it by drinking a beer. Yeah, but I'm proud 551 00:26:49,390 --> 00:26:50,290 Speaker 1: of it actually that 552 00:26:51,010 --> 00:26:55,270 Speaker 1: I'm I'm like letting go of that part of my life. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 553 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 1: Your commitment to your journey is so inspiring. It's very 554 00:26:59,010 --> 00:26:59,900 Speaker 1: respectable I 555 00:26:59,910 --> 00:27:02,869 Speaker 2: feel. So we shared about how we've grown to accept 556 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:04,909 Speaker 2: our bodies over time. But do you think there will 557 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:08,589 Speaker 2: be moments where we will regress both emotionally, mentally and 558 00:27:08,599 --> 00:27:11,419 Speaker 2: physically by how you feel about your body, how comfortable 559 00:27:11,430 --> 00:27:14,140 Speaker 2: you are in your skin as you age, especially. Actually, 560 00:27:14,150 --> 00:27:14,939 Speaker 1: I want to say that 561 00:27:16,060 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 1: your mental health and your physical health is 562 00:27:18,050 --> 00:27:20,349 Speaker 2: very, it's 563 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:24,719 Speaker 1: like chicken, chicken kind of situation. Sometimes when your mental 564 00:27:24,729 --> 00:27:26,719 Speaker 1: health is bad, you don't want to get out of bed. 565 00:27:26,729 --> 00:27:28,430 Speaker 1: So you don't go to the gym, you don't move out, 566 00:27:28,439 --> 00:27:31,099 Speaker 1: move around, you don't care about what you eat. And 567 00:27:31,109 --> 00:27:34,389 Speaker 1: then physically, if you don't take care of your body mentally, 568 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 1: you will be affected because why am I like that? 569 00:27:36,569 --> 00:27:39,188 Speaker 1: Why am I stuck in this rabbit hole of just 570 00:27:39,199 --> 00:27:42,010 Speaker 1: sitting around and not doing anything. Yeah. Yeah. So I 571 00:27:42,020 --> 00:27:43,719 Speaker 1: think when one 572 00:27:44,260 --> 00:27:47,670 Speaker 1: aspect of your life is compromised, right? It will trigger 573 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:48,290 Speaker 1: the other. 574 00:27:48,300 --> 00:27:50,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's also like why I was saying 575 00:27:50,329 --> 00:27:54,060 Speaker 2: earlier when you have big life transitions, right? Change job, 576 00:27:54,069 --> 00:27:56,790 Speaker 2: get married, move, house, break up, that kind of thing. 577 00:27:56,800 --> 00:28:00,189 Speaker 2: Have a kid. Then that's when you tend to let 578 00:28:00,199 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 2: your physical health take a back seat and then in 579 00:28:03,569 --> 00:28:05,910 Speaker 2: turn that affects your mental health also. Yeah, 580 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:09,890 Speaker 1: that's true. I mean, I don't doubt that, you know, 581 00:28:10,030 --> 00:28:13,199 Speaker 1: there will be ups and downs but I think there's 582 00:28:13,209 --> 00:28:13,688 Speaker 1: nothing wrong 583 00:28:13,780 --> 00:28:16,209 Speaker 1: with having downs like there's no down, then there will 584 00:28:16,219 --> 00:28:17,729 Speaker 1: be no ups or you know what I mean? 585 00:28:18,170 --> 00:28:20,109 Speaker 2: I think that that's the thing. I have a small 586 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:23,619 Speaker 2: fear of aging. Like is it more of just like, oh, 587 00:28:23,630 --> 00:28:27,050 Speaker 2: I cannot run as fast anymore? I cannot like lift 588 00:28:27,060 --> 00:28:29,650 Speaker 2: that heavy anymore. A little bit injured, that kind of thing? 589 00:28:29,859 --> 00:28:32,399 Speaker 2: Then you just don't feel as good, you know, like 590 00:28:32,410 --> 00:28:34,890 Speaker 2: on those days because when you were younger, you can 591 00:28:34,900 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 2: like just train every day and then it's fine. I 592 00:28:37,530 --> 00:28:41,229 Speaker 2: will never get injured. That kind of iron man. So 593 00:28:41,239 --> 00:28:42,410 Speaker 2: there's that part that 594 00:28:42,719 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 2: you need to reconcile with that 595 00:28:44,689 --> 00:28:46,939 Speaker 1: your body will change. I think the hardest part is 596 00:28:46,949 --> 00:28:50,020 Speaker 1: feeling young inside and then your body is aging faster 597 00:28:50,030 --> 00:28:50,290 Speaker 1: than 598 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:51,469 Speaker 1: then. 599 00:28:52,260 --> 00:28:54,969 Speaker 2: Now I need to take Omega three fish 600 00:28:54,979 --> 00:28:58,209 Speaker 1: oil. Yeah, I take a lot of supplements now. So. Yeah. Ok. 601 00:28:58,219 --> 00:29:01,010 Speaker 1: In the spirit of healing our inner Children. If there's 602 00:29:01,449 --> 00:29:04,479 Speaker 1: one thing you could tell your younger self, what would 603 00:29:04,489 --> 00:29:06,069 Speaker 1: you tell them? I know. 604 00:29:06,699 --> 00:29:09,930 Speaker 2: I know. Ok. So younger Nick 605 00:29:10,569 --> 00:29:13,250 Speaker 2: between a four pack and a six pack, right? Only 606 00:29:13,260 --> 00:29:16,290 Speaker 2: guys can tell the difference. Girls cannot tell the difference 607 00:29:16,300 --> 00:29:19,339 Speaker 2: I can unless they stare very hard. So don't bother. Oh, 608 00:29:19,349 --> 00:29:23,140 Speaker 1: interesting. Interesting. It's ok to be an airport run. 609 00:29:25,420 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 1: No, but to my younger self, I want to tell 610 00:29:27,810 --> 00:29:30,709 Speaker 1: her that it's ok. You don't have to be curvy 611 00:29:30,719 --> 00:29:34,849 Speaker 1: to be loved to be. I would say she's 612 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:36,390 Speaker 2: bio. You call yourself 613 00:29:37,900 --> 00:29:39,939 Speaker 1: like because my Chinese name is I called 614 00:29:44,699 --> 00:29:46,390 Speaker 2: you. No, but as in 615 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:46,739 Speaker 1: my choice. 616 00:29:50,209 --> 00:29:53,729 Speaker 1: Yes, my IC I thought she gave herself a nickname. No. 617 00:29:54,199 --> 00:29:56,619 Speaker 1: Oh my God. She's, this is what got me bully 618 00:29:56,630 --> 00:30:00,300 Speaker 1: in primary school. But yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Ok. So to 619 00:30:00,310 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 1: be I was only you can be you. 620 00:30:04,390 --> 00:30:07,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no trends will change and it is it 621 00:30:07,369 --> 00:30:10,540 Speaker 1: possible to keep up with them? So you only can 622 00:30:10,550 --> 00:30:11,329 Speaker 1: do you best. So 623 00:30:11,339 --> 00:30:13,890 Speaker 2: just do that. Well, said big. So once again, these 624 00:30:13,900 --> 00:30:17,329 Speaker 2: are our own personal experiences and what has worked for us. 625 00:30:17,339 --> 00:30:19,849 Speaker 2: So remember that everybody is of course different and what 626 00:30:19,859 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 2: has worked for us may not work for you. So 627 00:30:21,930 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 2: if you struggle with body image and eating disorders and 628 00:30:24,810 --> 00:30:28,310 Speaker 2: things like that. Uh You know, you may consider seeking 629 00:30:28,319 --> 00:30:29,199 Speaker 2: professional treatment. 630 00:30:30,150 --> 00:30:31,949 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for watching this episode of the 631 00:30:31,959 --> 00:30:34,229 Speaker 1: Hot Pot. You can also listen to us on Spotify 632 00:30:34,239 --> 00:30:37,459 Speaker 1: Apple podcast and me, listen and subscribe. If you haven't already, 633 00:30:37,469 --> 00:30:37,939 Speaker 1: we will see 634 00:30:37,949 --> 00:30:40,660 Speaker 2: you on the next episode. Bye bye bye.