WEBVTT - S2 Episode 3: Jade Seah 0:00:06.230 --> 0:00:08.390 The Mutton Sandwich podcast. 0:00:09.020 --> 0:00:11.750 All right, welcome to the Mutton Sandwich podcast. This is 0:00:11.750 --> 0:00:13.690 where we get to hang out with our famous friends. Yeah, 0:00:13.730 --> 0:00:15.740 we catch up. We haven't seen them for a while 0:00:15.950 --> 0:00:19.639 and because it's, you know, pandemic time, all the more 0:00:19.640 --> 0:00:22.070 you can't see people. Although, although for the first time 0:00:22.070 --> 0:00:24.440 in a long time today, we're very proud to say 0:00:24.620 --> 0:00:27.590 we have a guest in person. We're not on Zoom. No, 0:00:27.590 --> 0:00:29.990 we're not. We actually managed to coax her into the 0:00:29.990 --> 0:00:34.400 studio under the false pretext of free food. But yeah, well, 0:00:34.400 --> 0:00:37.970 we'll get to that interview. Ms. Jake's. 0:00:38.630 --> 0:00:41.420 Hello, guys. Hi guys. Hi guys. Oh, so nice to 0:00:41.420 --> 0:00:42.510 see you after so long. 0:00:42.530 --> 0:00:46.050 Yeah, he's actually the free food, though. Book coming up later. 0:00:47.330 --> 0:00:49.190 I know you love me, but see, that's how close 0:00:49.190 --> 0:00:51.110 we are with Jeff because you know, we've been friends 0:00:51.110 --> 0:00:54.459 and at one point a dime, colleagues as well. Yeah, 0:00:54.470 --> 0:00:57.130 for a while when Jade was on radio. And while 0:00:57.140 --> 0:00:59.300 it's been a while, like you said, Are you been? 0:00:59.900 --> 0:01:02.660 Wow? It's been a long time man. I mean, that 0:01:02.660 --> 0:01:04.250 was in back in the old 0:01:04.250 --> 0:01:06.010 campus whole campus as long 0:01:06.020 --> 0:01:09.050 as been. Yeah, yeah. Sometimes I don't want to get 0:01:09.050 --> 0:01:10.910 caught up with you guys. I would say the most 0:01:10.910 --> 0:01:14.030 has happened with you. Well, because I follow your wife 0:01:14.030 --> 0:01:17.300 and my one is a dead weight. Vernon is a 0:01:17.300 --> 0:01:18.139 dad of two. 0:01:18.170 --> 0:01:22.820 Yeah, babies popping up everywhere. But yeah, you wouldn't have 0:01:22.819 --> 0:01:25.160 thunk it, right? I mean, on our own. 0:01:25.280 --> 0:01:26.780 Yeah, I was quite shocked the first time in and 0:01:26.780 --> 0:01:28.069 I was like, Whoa, all right. 0:01:28.069 --> 0:01:30.920 Well, I was a rabbit in my past life. So 0:01:32.090 --> 0:01:36.290 children keep popping guns to stop producing boys. Incredible by you. 0:01:36.290 --> 0:01:39.050 I mean, you know, since since you left really all 0:01:39.050 --> 0:01:41.930 those years ago, you you've been keeping up, keeping busy 0:01:41.930 --> 0:01:44.750 with yourself, you know, filming a lot of stuff, doing 0:01:44.750 --> 0:01:46.850 your own thing as well. Yeah. Tell us a bit 0:01:46.850 --> 0:01:48.570 about some of the things that you do right now. 0:01:48.570 --> 0:01:51.230 Your social media superstar. Yeah, exactly right. 0:01:51.260 --> 0:01:54.170 I mean, I think like radio interestingly, started me on 0:01:54.170 --> 0:01:56.930 social media, right? Because our then boss said, You need 0:01:56.930 --> 0:02:00.160 to produce YouTube videos. Yeah, I was like, Huh, OK? 0:02:00.200 --> 0:02:02.030 I mean, I don't know, be a full crew and like, 0:02:02.060 --> 0:02:03.930 someone is going to direct me and I don't. 0:02:04.500 --> 0:02:05.690 That's how radio was 0:02:06.190 --> 0:02:08.120 coming from TV. I'm like, OK, where's the script? What's 0:02:08.120 --> 0:02:10.310 the concept? And then she's like, You just pick your own. 0:02:10.700 --> 0:02:13.310 Do it yourself. Yeah, OK. And this was before. Let 0:02:13.310 --> 0:02:16.430 me clarify this this this time that Jamie's talking about. Yeah, 0:02:16.490 --> 0:02:19.519 there was a time that phones didn't have front facing cameras. 0:02:19.750 --> 0:02:22.790 Oh yeah, I was that long ago. Oh yeah, 0:02:22.790 --> 0:02:23.750 yeah, I can't remember that. 0:02:23.780 --> 0:02:26.030 That was like, I'm just to give you an idea 0:02:26.030 --> 0:02:29.420 that was like doing the time of like iPhone four. Right? Yeah, 0:02:29.450 --> 0:02:31.280 that was how long ago it was. Yeah. And we 0:02:31.280 --> 0:02:34.100 were expected to produce our own videos with what? Yeah. 0:02:34.130 --> 0:02:35.990 Who's going to help us? No one. There's no such 0:02:35.990 --> 0:02:38.390 thing as a selfie stick back then. No. Why? 0:02:38.990 --> 0:02:41.240 But you guys are like veteran deejays, right? For me, 0:02:41.240 --> 0:02:44.270 like coming from TV as a rookie deejay. So I 0:02:44.270 --> 0:02:46.370 was really getting as a producer, my own radio show 0:02:46.370 --> 0:02:48.890 and then YouTube videos. All right. So that was a 0:02:48.889 --> 0:02:50.630 new thing. But then the interesting thing is after that, 0:02:50.630 --> 0:02:52.430 you started me on this whole like, OK, let's try 0:02:52.610 --> 0:02:56.240 doing this video thing. I cringe looking at my earlier videos. 0:02:56.540 --> 0:02:58.579 But yeah, you roll with it. And I guess like 0:02:58.790 --> 0:03:01.820 in terms of social media, I have London done is 0:03:01.820 --> 0:03:05.269 better than perfect. Yeah, right. It's so different from TV, 0:03:05.270 --> 0:03:08.180 you know, a lot of things in the background. And 0:03:08.180 --> 0:03:11.510 she's always in the foreground. I recently just recorded a video. 0:03:11.540 --> 0:03:13.340 My husband is in the background the entire time. The 0:03:14.210 --> 0:03:18.170 entire time. OK. I actually screenshot this sucker him and said, 0:03:18.169 --> 0:03:21.010 What the hell are you doing there? He was working 0:03:21.010 --> 0:03:23.540 because he works from home, right? As I frame the shots, 0:03:23.540 --> 0:03:26.000 I should say he was in the background the entire 0:03:26.000 --> 0:03:27.680 time he their problems. I was like, Whoa, the entire 0:03:27.680 --> 0:03:32.480 video I didn't move. I'm looking for my boss. And 0:03:32.510 --> 0:03:34.910 so the point is I still and I'm going to 0:03:34.910 --> 0:03:36.950 release it this week, and I've learned over the years 0:03:36.950 --> 0:03:39.300 it's OK to release stuff like that. Yeah, yeah. You 0:03:39.320 --> 0:03:42.290 would have retaken exactly the entire thing, but it's just 0:03:42.710 --> 0:03:44.870 so that's one of the things. And then I in pandemic, 0:03:44.870 --> 0:03:48.560 I started going stir crazy at home because I'm like, 0:03:48.590 --> 0:03:50.810 Yeah, you have to do this. You always on the move, right? 0:03:50.810 --> 0:03:52.910 Yeah, I know. So I started like bouncing from home, 0:03:52.910 --> 0:03:56.780 which is like a mini trampoline. Yeah, yeah, that's what 0:03:56.840 --> 0:03:59.170 I've done it for years. But then I rent the 0:03:59.180 --> 0:04:00.860 one and I got I started doing it from home 0:04:00.860 --> 0:04:02.540 and then and I got to thinking, Why don't I 0:04:02.540 --> 0:04:05.360 teach this stuff? Because like, there was like the next 0:04:05.390 --> 0:04:07.760 level of challenge. So I decided as I spoke to 0:04:07.760 --> 0:04:10.070 the bosses, I'm like, Can I teach us? And like, Yeah, 0:04:10.070 --> 0:04:12.920 we'll teach all the teachers. And then while I'm also 0:04:12.920 --> 0:04:13.730 a bonus instructor 0:04:15.210 --> 0:04:18.110 housing great, you know you're very well known to be 0:04:18.110 --> 0:04:21.530 a very fierce boy. You, you, you cycle, you run you, 0:04:21.529 --> 0:04:24.049 you bounce. What you do in half an hour is 0:04:24.050 --> 0:04:25.220 what we do for one year. 0:04:25.300 --> 0:04:27.260 I did even like way back when. 0:04:27.460 --> 0:04:30.020 Exactly, exactly. I'm going to pull out and Insta story 0:04:30.020 --> 0:04:32.180 you posted yesterday. OK, I'm going to read it out 0:04:32.180 --> 0:04:37.339 to everyone. OK? All right. Her caption was yesterday's shot. 0:04:37.820 --> 0:04:42.010 Sunrise seeking Mike Wright shot. You know, shot or shot. 0:04:42.080 --> 0:04:46.279 How shot? Fifty five km. The one time shot, though, 0:04:46.760 --> 0:04:48.830 that when I saw it, I'm like, You got to 0:04:48.830 --> 0:04:49.730 be sure you 0:04:49.970 --> 0:04:54.230 contextualize contextual because previously to me, really would be very long. 0:04:54.230 --> 0:04:57.710 But on a road bike, 50 is really quite shot. 0:04:58.520 --> 0:05:02.300 OK, OK, here we have our next guest. We want 0:05:02.310 --> 0:05:07.880 to short local. So anyway, all to me, me thing, 0:05:08.020 --> 0:05:12.450 I walk 50 kilometers a year. No, I doubt it. 0:05:12.460 --> 0:05:15.710 She's doing it in one evening. I also shot. Oh, 0:05:15.880 --> 0:05:21.670 she's that is the essence of Jade saying, You've always 0:05:21.670 --> 0:05:24.310 been very active and all that which which is fantastic. 0:05:24.520 --> 0:05:28.349 And not to say that this girl doesn't eat. She 0:05:28.550 --> 0:05:31.360 she know she gorgeous on food. She she loves food. 0:05:31.360 --> 0:05:34.150 And this is a no. I see you. We had 0:05:34.150 --> 0:05:37.589 lunch together. That's great. Keep it elegant, guy. No, no, no, no. Nothing, 0:05:37.600 --> 0:05:40.600 nothing elegant. Are you eating? But yeah, you know, which 0:05:40.600 --> 0:05:44.200 is amazing because, you know, it really inspires us because, 0:05:44.380 --> 0:05:46.780 you know, how can someone be so fit, so active? 0:05:46.779 --> 0:05:49.210 But then, you know, enjoy food like that. How do 0:05:49.210 --> 0:05:50.770 you balance it out? Like, like 0:05:51.010 --> 0:05:54.640 you've got Demi is really enjoying both parts of life, right? 0:05:55.089 --> 0:05:56.560 I don't know what I should say this because people 0:05:56.560 --> 0:05:59.050 don't eat very healthy, which which is a cool image 0:05:59.050 --> 0:05:59.979 to be like, 0:06:00.730 --> 0:06:02.589 Yeah, I know I'm healthy, really? 0:06:03.339 --> 0:06:06.080 Yeah, OK. The way I see is, love your shot, right? 0:06:06.100 --> 0:06:08.669 So you have only one life. So I mix it 0:06:08.690 --> 0:06:10.839 in terms of what I like to do and like 0:06:10.839 --> 0:06:13.599 cycling all that as my hobbies, my no food. I 0:06:13.600 --> 0:06:17.979 don't want to be stuck eating boring crap broccoli. And yeah, like, 0:06:18.070 --> 0:06:20.380 I eat what I like to eat. And then it's 0:06:20.380 --> 0:06:22.239 just balance, right? Just balance. I mean, I try not 0:06:22.240 --> 0:06:25.150 to drink like company that drinks, OK, sugary drinks. Now 0:06:25.150 --> 0:06:28.180 that's something I really try not to do. Sure. Otherwise, 0:06:28.180 --> 0:06:29.770 everything else I in Nigella, 0:06:30.190 --> 0:06:32.289 I'm going back to that Insta story for you. Oh 0:06:32.290 --> 0:06:37.150 my God. Five kilometers, right? Because it's a whole thing 0:06:37.150 --> 0:06:40.150 where your screenshot your fitness app. She in that short 0:06:40.690 --> 0:06:43.419 bike ride yesterday. Yeah, she won two thousand two hundred 0:06:43.420 --> 0:06:44.279 and fifty four calories. 0:06:44.290 --> 0:06:46.080 I don't know how I do it, by the way. 0:06:46.089 --> 0:06:49.060 So even if it's like you, it's close enough. So 0:06:49.060 --> 0:06:52.210 I feel fine with the easing on a short bike ride. 0:06:52.210 --> 0:06:55.210 Once you two thousand two hundred I have 2000 calories 0:06:55.210 --> 0:06:59.200 for breakfast. Now listen, basically, if you don't eat the 0:06:59.200 --> 0:07:01.240 way you do, you will disappear. You are literally just 0:07:01.240 --> 0:07:01.950 very yummy. 0:07:02.020 --> 0:07:04.090 Yeah, I mean, I do joke, I do joke people 0:07:04.089 --> 0:07:07.720 that if I eat maybe healthily, I would be really slim. 0:07:08.410 --> 0:07:12.340 And you know, then yeah, you might look scary. So yeah, please, 0:07:12.370 --> 0:07:17.260 please be the radio. Yeah, let's let's let's let's go 0:07:17.260 --> 0:07:20.050 back in time. OK, OK, we love reminiscing here in 0:07:20.050 --> 0:07:22.000 the mutton sandwich. Yeah, for sure. So let's go back 0:07:22.000 --> 0:07:25.540 in time the first time, I think for and it's 0:07:25.540 --> 0:07:27.640 the same that I've heard the name J. Yeah, yeah. 0:07:28.150 --> 0:07:31.280 Wasn't missing a whole universe. Oh wow. Would that be accurate? 0:07:31.280 --> 0:07:33.400 That's the first time people knew about you and stuff 0:07:33.400 --> 0:07:34.600 like that. The first, are you in the limelight? 0:07:34.660 --> 0:07:36.940 I think so. I mean, I've models since I was 14. 0:07:37.060 --> 0:07:38.950 You know, my like, you're just a phase, right? Nobody 0:07:38.950 --> 0:07:40.120 knows who I am. 0:07:40.120 --> 0:07:43.720 Yeah, yes. Yes. And who won that? Yeah, you did. 0:07:43.720 --> 0:07:47.940 You win? No, I didn't count. Yeah, Carol. That's right. 0:07:47.950 --> 0:07:49.960 That's right. Yeah. Also, old, dear friend of ours as 0:07:49.960 --> 0:07:51.820 well here in Hong Kong now, the 0:07:51.820 --> 0:07:53.950 last I heard from her while she was in Hong Kong. 0:07:53.950 --> 0:07:55.800 I don't know if you're there. 0:07:57.010 --> 0:07:59.290 Thank you. It's been so long. Yeah, yeah. That was 0:07:59.290 --> 0:08:01.330 the first time we ever learn about Jane. Yeah. And 0:08:01.330 --> 0:08:03.010 I think a lot of people say as gorgeous as 0:08:03.010 --> 0:08:05.410 Carole was, and she wanted blah blah blah. Everybody was 0:08:05.410 --> 0:08:08.260 captivated by you. I remember because you were the one 0:08:08.260 --> 0:08:11.410 with the with the quirky answers your spunky, spunky like. 0:08:11.830 --> 0:08:15.100 And I know here, Mediacorp, everybody is like, OK, that's 0:08:15.100 --> 0:08:15.670 a girl 0:08:15.910 --> 0:08:17.900 that we want. I don't know if they felt like that. 0:08:18.100 --> 0:08:19.810 That is like me on and they had to do it. 0:08:19.840 --> 0:08:20.710 My Guinness. 0:08:21.140 --> 0:08:24.970 No, I wanted to explain. Explain that like it was 0:08:24.970 --> 0:08:27.970 signed for Mediacorp, it was very soon after Miss Universe 0:08:28.150 --> 0:08:31.480 she quickly grabbed onto you. Like, what was the process? 0:08:31.480 --> 0:08:33.010 Then what were you thinking? If they don't grab on 0:08:33.010 --> 0:08:35.320 those you rebounding, giving away 0:08:35.470 --> 0:08:36.150 all cycling, 0:08:36.460 --> 0:08:38.949 cycling or roller skating? Oh yeah, 0:08:40.210 --> 0:08:43.059 it was funny because that was like, you know, leading 0:08:43.059 --> 0:08:44.890 up to the pageant was the last I still remember 0:08:44.890 --> 0:08:49.110 the last couple of weeks till my graduation from university. Oh, right. 0:08:49.150 --> 0:08:50.829 So I had I had to get a job because 0:08:50.830 --> 0:08:53.330 my parents are becoming like, your last exam added to 0:08:53.420 --> 0:08:55.290 your earnings. 0:08:55.300 --> 0:08:55.939 I'm thinking, why? 0:08:56.170 --> 0:08:58.179 It's like even if you don't start learning, then you'll 0:08:58.179 --> 0:09:00.020 figure it out. We don't giving you any more money, right? 0:09:00.040 --> 0:09:02.350 So I like my drops on the week after the 0:09:02.350 --> 0:09:02.949 pageant ended. 0:09:02.990 --> 0:09:04.000 Wow, what was it? 0:09:04.330 --> 0:09:07.990 I was an account exact in a big advertising firm. 0:09:08.750 --> 0:09:10.059 It's a job that I want, that I want a 0:09:10.059 --> 0:09:12.790 job in an MNC that was to do with advertising 0:09:12.790 --> 0:09:14.070 also because I didn't know what I wanted to do 0:09:14.080 --> 0:09:16.090 in my life. And I was a business student. I 0:09:16.090 --> 0:09:19.630 was everyone's I do finances. I was like, No, no, no. 0:09:19.940 --> 0:09:21.910 I was in tons of land in school that career 0:09:21.910 --> 0:09:24.760 counsellors tell you to do personally quizzes. And so I 0:09:24.760 --> 0:09:27.640 did an internship in PR decided I didn't want to 0:09:27.640 --> 0:09:28.030 do that. 0:09:28.120 --> 0:09:30.700 Yeah, I mean, same here. You know, 30 years ago, 0:09:30.720 --> 0:09:33.370 I decided to go into radio instead of going into banking. 0:09:33.370 --> 0:09:38.080 And now, 30 years later, I'm such an idiot. Why 0:09:38.080 --> 0:09:38.920 didn't I do that? 0:09:40.030 --> 0:09:43.540 Yeah, you know, that was that was what they told 0:09:43.540 --> 0:09:45.190 me as I was like, No, I want to like, 0:09:45.190 --> 0:09:47.110 be an advertising. So I signed to a fund. But 0:09:47.110 --> 0:09:49.929 then after the pageant, like someone from media called and 0:09:49.929 --> 0:09:52.870 then they said, Can you come in for an audition? 0:09:53.380 --> 0:09:56.079 And I sat down for an audition thinking that, well, 0:09:56.260 --> 0:09:58.750 how hard could it be? And they gave me four scripts, right? 0:09:58.760 --> 0:10:00.910 And I was like, Yeah, no sweat. The English script, 0:10:01.240 --> 0:10:02.979 that was all those things. There was an acting script, 0:10:02.980 --> 0:10:05.660 and then they gave me two others. And acting and Benjamin, 0:10:05.910 --> 0:10:07.530 I like all of it. 0:10:09.150 --> 0:10:11.670 OK, I try my best. The acting one in Mandarin, 0:10:12.000 --> 0:10:14.890 I took like an hour to read everything because maybe 0:10:15.030 --> 0:10:17.069 I can read, but I don't really understand what I'm saying. 0:10:17.480 --> 0:10:19.530 I because remember the words. I recognize the words because 0:10:19.530 --> 0:10:22.559 of is, I can't see, as I wrote down, all 0:10:22.559 --> 0:10:24.150 the honey being. Then I read it. Don't know what 0:10:24.150 --> 0:10:26.040 I'm saying. OK. And the whole thing one was just 0:10:26.040 --> 0:10:28.470 too hot. It was like invisible. Very. And I was like, 0:10:28.860 --> 0:10:32.100 I just gave up. And then I. So I did 0:10:32.220 --> 0:10:34.620 the two English scripts. I did. The one mentioned script, 0:10:34.830 --> 0:10:36.450 butchered it. And then the last one, I said, You know, 0:10:36.450 --> 0:10:38.429 I just can't do it right. I really I really can't. 0:10:38.470 --> 0:10:40.030 And I thought that was it. You know, like, there's 0:10:40.050 --> 0:10:41.850 the end because I couldn't get through that, OK? I 0:10:41.850 --> 0:10:43.650 went back to work and all that. And then next thing, 0:10:43.800 --> 0:10:48.569 like the then hit of the author's management department, asked 0:10:48.570 --> 0:10:50.170 to see me for a meeting. And then we talked. 0:10:50.530 --> 0:10:53.220 I mean, I met him secretly, right, like 7:00 a.m. 0:10:53.550 --> 0:10:57.390 because I said, I start work at 9:00 a.m.. I 0:10:57.390 --> 0:10:59.850 just started writing like a fresh grant. So I met 0:10:59.850 --> 0:11:02.010 him for seven a.m. my breakfast meeting, and he offered 0:11:02.130 --> 0:11:04.200 me a job like basically. Oh, that's nice. Yeah. And 0:11:04.200 --> 0:11:06.510 I was really surprised. I was like, My engine sucks. 0:11:06.510 --> 0:11:08.069 He's like, Oh, well, then you just called to the 0:11:08.070 --> 0:11:12.180 English train. Yeah, right? I imagine along the way. And yeah, 0:11:12.179 --> 0:11:15.390 I remember we negotiated the pay and everything. The first meeting. 0:11:15.630 --> 0:11:16.679 He really thought this guy a 0:11:16.679 --> 0:11:17.220 lot of trouble. 0:11:18.540 --> 0:11:20.130 He offered me something. I was like, Well, you know, 0:11:20.130 --> 0:11:22.199 I want this amount and I am a fresh grant. 0:11:22.210 --> 0:11:24.180 Come on. Like, you got to actually want to ask 0:11:24.179 --> 0:11:26.880 for your mind was way more than I was getting advertising. OK, 0:11:26.970 --> 0:11:29.160 which was like, Yeah, the way I saw it is 0:11:29.160 --> 0:11:30.979 like as long as I'm getting paid more. Yeah, I 0:11:30.990 --> 0:11:31.860 have nothing to lose, then 0:11:32.050 --> 0:11:32.730 you have a reason. 0:11:32.730 --> 0:11:34.210 Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I just want to see how far 0:11:34.210 --> 0:11:34.650 I would go. 0:11:34.920 --> 0:11:38.650 And amazingly, you did both. You did Mandarin and you did. 0:11:38.670 --> 0:11:39.209 Oh my gosh. 0:11:39.260 --> 0:11:41.250 Well, I don't know if you can call what I 0:11:41.250 --> 0:11:43.310 did mention that 0:11:44.070 --> 0:11:48.209 I don't know is it? It's what strung together. 0:11:48.940 --> 0:11:53.099 I mean, I, I like stumbled through it somehow. I 0:11:53.100 --> 0:11:54.900 don't know if you can call it did it, but yeah, 0:11:54.900 --> 0:11:55.530 I guess I did. 0:11:55.559 --> 0:11:57.959 Yeah, you did. Yeah. And I remember you, you know, 0:11:58.530 --> 0:12:01.170 with yo yo yo yo channel your dramas and and 0:12:01.170 --> 0:12:03.600 then doing really well on Channel five as well. We 0:12:03.600 --> 0:12:08.140 even did a TV show together. We did a TV show. Yeah, yeah. Actually, 0:12:08.250 --> 0:12:09.540 we do have some strong interim 0:12:09.880 --> 0:12:11.880 one where we we had a camera 0:12:12.120 --> 0:12:14.850 there. No, no, he didn't show. Yeah. And we went 0:12:14.850 --> 0:12:17.819 outdoors to film this like discover something 0:12:18.480 --> 0:12:19.740 people doing kind of x. 0:12:19.790 --> 0:12:25.110 Yeah, we didn't do it. Fishing? No fishing. No, no, no, no. 0:12:25.110 --> 0:12:28.690 The one around the Lake Shore, right? Right. Fishing, yeah. 0:12:28.710 --> 0:12:31.770 Yo yo yo yo yo shing on the hook. Yeah, no. 0:12:32.020 --> 0:12:32.760 You guys know 0:12:33.240 --> 0:12:37.410 people do confirm it's not really a lousy, catchy name. 0:12:37.410 --> 0:12:39.680 Sorry to say no. No, no. 0:12:39.929 --> 0:12:41.309 Are you saying this, Justin? 0:12:41.309 --> 0:12:42.990 Come on. Not only are we not fit, we are 0:12:42.990 --> 0:12:45.000 going to be as the name 0:12:45.000 --> 0:12:47.309 of the show. I know we had hidden camera catching 0:12:47.309 --> 0:12:50.130 people doing this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, that's called for 0:12:50.130 --> 0:12:52.170 the life of me I can't remember. I know that 0:12:52.170 --> 0:12:54.839 when you guys offer me and said, Would you like 0:12:54.840 --> 0:12:57.610 one video that was like a dream come true for me, really, 0:12:57.720 --> 0:13:00.090 because I've always wanted to be in radio, never wanted 0:13:00.090 --> 0:13:00.960 to be in TV. 0:13:00.990 --> 0:13:01.830 Wow. 0:13:02.020 --> 0:13:04.650 I remember asking my bosses then and they were like, 0:13:05.030 --> 0:13:08.730 No offense or what? I mean, yeah, it was very rude. 0:13:08.880 --> 0:13:10.559 That was literally what they say. And now I 0:13:11.640 --> 0:13:14.280 know, and it's funny they say that because and you know, 0:13:14.280 --> 0:13:16.170 it's not all wrong for them to say that because 0:13:16.170 --> 0:13:18.540 there was a time when people didn't know who or 0:13:18.540 --> 0:13:19.590 what radio deejays looked 0:13:19.590 --> 0:13:21.630 like, you were just like a name. Yeah, we follow 0:13:21.630 --> 0:13:24.030 social media with our social media, with our daily exposure 0:13:24.030 --> 0:13:26.860 on TV and posters and bus ads and stuff like that. 0:13:26.880 --> 0:13:29.370 You know, no one knew who the people were talking, but, 0:13:29.550 --> 0:13:31.740 you know, I guess that was part of the intrigue 0:13:31.740 --> 0:13:34.890 of them listening to radio. But then the whole internet 0:13:35.190 --> 0:13:37.980 boom came and, you know, everybody was online and it 0:13:37.980 --> 0:13:40.500 was a different ballgame altogether. And yeah, that was one 0:13:40.500 --> 0:13:43.470 of the reasons why we thought, Hey, having g on 0:13:43.870 --> 0:13:46.440 the radio station would be great because I really got 0:13:46.440 --> 0:13:49.740 two ugly fellows. So at least one pretty good job 0:13:49.950 --> 0:13:52.020 down here, you know, at least we will be. Interestingly, 0:13:52.020 --> 0:13:54.210 while they don't look so bad after all, and 0:13:54.900 --> 0:13:56.280 that was that was thanks. 0:13:56.710 --> 0:13:58.080 No, just be honest. Like, no, 0:13:58.110 --> 0:13:59.939 you know, that was like, very exciting for me because 0:13:59.940 --> 0:14:02.589 I think I grew up listening to radio. And yeah, 0:14:02.590 --> 0:14:04.380 I've always wanted to be on radio. So I was like, Yeah, 0:14:04.380 --> 0:14:06.510 and I really pushed my melodies on like, you know, 0:14:06.510 --> 0:14:09.300 the asking me, La, can I? And then they actually 0:14:09.300 --> 0:14:09.990 finally agreed. 0:14:10.830 --> 0:14:13.050 And I remember great times with Jay is such a 0:14:13.050 --> 0:14:14.940 nice person to be around, and I have to admit 0:14:14.940 --> 0:14:16.380 I've not been listening to you guys for the last 0:14:16.380 --> 0:14:19.170 two minutes. Oh, wow. I was googling the name of 0:14:19.170 --> 0:14:23.010 our show. Oh, I found it. What catch of the day? 0:14:23.880 --> 0:14:24.780 Oh, I never 0:14:26.190 --> 0:14:27.050 knew it was official. 0:14:28.760 --> 0:14:30.390 I don't know. One Salalah Ladbroke 0:14:30.420 --> 0:14:36.390 catch of the day. That's right. That's what I remember 0:14:36.390 --> 0:14:38.430 when we were filming the intro on a green screen 0:14:38.430 --> 0:14:40.080 green screen, you had to pretend to be hooked like 0:14:40.080 --> 0:14:43.800 a fish. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh boy. This was 0:14:43.800 --> 0:14:46.710 back in 2012, by the way. So just just to 0:14:46.710 --> 0:14:51.270 give everybody a long view on you. So, yeah. You 0:14:51.270 --> 0:14:53.490 know what? If you didn't mention it? I've forgotten that 0:14:53.490 --> 0:14:56.370 we did that show. I really have. I remember specifically, 0:14:56.370 --> 0:15:01.560 you know, being on set. I believe it was hot pop. Yes, 0:15:01.650 --> 0:15:04.970 I think it was. That's right. And then. Three of 0:15:04.970 --> 0:15:06.920 us were together and we were talking about something, and 0:15:06.920 --> 0:15:08.960 then they cracked the joke and we were laughing for 0:15:08.960 --> 0:15:11.480 like a half an hour. So, you know, those were 0:15:11.720 --> 0:15:14.960 good times and fun times because, you know, off camera, 0:15:14.960 --> 0:15:17.000 it's just jokes, jokes, jokes, ha ha ha. We didn't 0:15:17.000 --> 0:15:18.680 think a lot of things. Seriously, yeah. And then when 0:15:18.680 --> 0:15:21.980 the camera rolled. Most of the time someone would screw 0:15:21.980 --> 0:15:25.180 up the script. And that's it. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:15:25.190 --> 0:15:26.590 Laughing for for so long, right? 0:15:26.960 --> 0:15:28.160 That was fun. That was really fun. 0:15:28.880 --> 0:15:31.460 Those are fun times. What would you say? Sorry, I 0:15:31.460 --> 0:15:33.110 know you guys were talking about our on radio. No. 0:15:33.120 --> 0:15:38.380 Yeah, because he was all the things I find. 0:15:38.510 --> 0:15:41.780 So you giggle. Yeah. What would you say was your 0:15:41.780 --> 0:15:45.340 favorite TV project before we go back to radio? Wow. Yeah. 0:15:45.920 --> 0:15:47.180 Don't have to say catch of the day. I don't 0:15:47.180 --> 0:15:47.410 have to. 0:15:47.470 --> 0:15:48.190 Yeah, I was going to say 0:15:48.780 --> 0:15:49.489 No, no, no. 0:15:50.720 --> 0:15:54.800 Well, actually, I don't know. All right. And he really 0:15:54.800 --> 0:15:58.190 don't know. I just a lot of it passed as 0:15:58.190 --> 0:16:00.320 a young artist like in a blur, to be really honest, 0:16:00.680 --> 0:16:03.650 because time was all like was always so busy and 0:16:03.650 --> 0:16:06.860 stuff like that. I remember, like, I like the the 0:16:06.860 --> 0:16:10.730 shows where there were there was a human element. I 0:16:10.730 --> 0:16:12.980 guess over time I realized I like more than acting. 0:16:13.020 --> 0:16:14.180 Yeah, by far. 0:16:14.270 --> 0:16:16.489 Yeah, by far. So I like like, I just want 0:16:16.490 --> 0:16:18.830 to ask you question, who's also a dear friend now 0:16:19.190 --> 0:16:21.230 who was like, very rude to me to this day? 0:16:22.070 --> 0:16:25.520 Ray Giudice But we are dear friends and like I remember, 0:16:25.880 --> 0:16:28.310 just like being with fellow whores, being able to go 0:16:28.310 --> 0:16:31.610 off script, but also meeting people. I mean, young athletes and, 0:16:31.880 --> 0:16:33.620 you know, we meet nice people. I don't I can't 0:16:33.620 --> 0:16:36.140 remember a single specific one, but I just know that 0:16:36.140 --> 0:16:36.740 I like the 0:16:36.740 --> 0:16:38.090 element, the interaction, 0:16:38.120 --> 0:16:40.970 the interaction and meeting people, interviewing people, meeting new people, 0:16:41.240 --> 0:16:43.160 not knowing what to expect every day is a new thing. 0:16:43.160 --> 0:16:46.100 Whereas acting is like, Yeah, you don't. Every day is different, 0:16:46.100 --> 0:16:47.690 but you kind of know what to expect. 0:16:47.930 --> 0:16:50.300 I think you, I think you know you, you feel 0:16:50.300 --> 0:16:53.390 like how you feel about acting as well. You're not 0:16:53.390 --> 0:16:56.030 being yourself is not natural. Yeah, yeah. I'd rather be myself. 0:16:56.060 --> 0:16:58.220 Me too, right? Yeah, me too. I mean, it's almost like, 0:16:58.370 --> 0:17:00.410 why am I being somebody else? Yeah. I don't know 0:17:00.410 --> 0:17:04.050 what you guys are doing. I'm always pretending not thinking 0:17:04.460 --> 0:17:08.889 that this in real life. So yeah, that's not my radio. 0:17:09.150 --> 0:17:12.470 So it was really fun having you on board at. 0:17:12.630 --> 0:17:15.470 And how so? So, so talk about your first days 0:17:15.470 --> 0:17:17.270 in radio, like when you when you finally turned out 0:17:17.270 --> 0:17:18.619 among you, said it was a dream come true. 0:17:18.650 --> 0:17:20.750 It was. But then I realized I had to control 0:17:20.750 --> 0:17:23.869 the panel myself. Just Justin, I remember. I remember. Oh 0:17:23.869 --> 0:17:26.530 my gosh, I remember. You told me. Yeah. And then 0:17:26.540 --> 0:17:28.370 you were like, All right, it's very easy. You just 0:17:28.369 --> 0:17:29.780 press this and this and this and make sure this 0:17:29.780 --> 0:17:31.040 is on. And then that one is all right. And 0:17:31.040 --> 0:17:32.330 then when you answer the phone call is this is 0:17:32.330 --> 0:17:33.830 this you want to skip a song and do this? 0:17:33.830 --> 0:17:37.640 And then I was like, what? Sorry, excuse me. Like, 0:17:37.640 --> 0:17:40.369 it was very overwhelming. And then and then you and then, 0:17:40.400 --> 0:17:42.560 like some of the other deejays told me, like, be careful, right? 0:17:42.560 --> 0:17:44.630 Make sure there's no dead airs or like, if there's 0:17:44.630 --> 0:17:46.700 a time when is really quite like, just press the 0:17:46.700 --> 0:17:50.880 next button, because at least then something will be like, Whoa, 0:17:50.960 --> 0:17:54.710 I think I did. I did like once. Thankfully, not 0:17:54.710 --> 0:17:55.220 for that 0:17:55.220 --> 0:17:59.300 long, but it's OK. Everybody, that's quite scary. 0:17:59.480 --> 0:18:00.880 And I think once it went on a bit longer, 0:18:00.920 --> 0:18:03.200 I thought it would now is like, Oh, wow. I 0:18:03.200 --> 0:18:05.330 think that was the first thing. And the other thing 0:18:05.330 --> 0:18:07.370 was like, like I said, like I was used to 0:18:07.369 --> 0:18:10.880 having a script, at least a concept. Yeah, yeah. And 0:18:10.880 --> 0:18:11.869 then it was like, Oh, what do you want to 0:18:11.869 --> 0:18:12.710 do for your show? I'm like, 0:18:12.960 --> 0:18:15.080 Huh, I want to make. 0:18:15.590 --> 0:18:18.159 I mean, I get to pick what I want to do. 0:18:18.170 --> 0:18:19.909 And they were like, Yeah, you get to pick exactly 0:18:19.910 --> 0:18:21.570 what you want to do. I was like, Yeah. So 0:18:21.590 --> 0:18:26.090 he was liberating, but also really scary. Yeah. You know, 0:18:26.090 --> 0:18:28.100 at the same time, it was very new. It was 0:18:28.100 --> 0:18:30.340 very new to have to learn all that and then 0:18:30.350 --> 0:18:32.540 managed the panels and then. And I remember you tried 0:18:32.540 --> 0:18:36.800 to teach me how to edit it in like commercials. Yeah. 0:18:37.220 --> 0:18:39.050 I think those ones you very three layers on me, 0:18:39.050 --> 0:18:41.120 like struggling for, like the longest time and then you're like, 0:18:41.119 --> 0:18:43.690 You know what? I'll just have you finished it? I 0:18:43.770 --> 0:18:46.250 I was like taking so long to edit one voice. 0:18:46.550 --> 0:18:48.139 This guy was like, I think he wasn't me. He 0:18:48.140 --> 0:18:50.750 just needed to use the studio and get the hell 0:18:50.750 --> 0:18:54.350 out of the studio. I still do that today. And 0:18:54.350 --> 0:18:56.360 I think sometimes what it takes to live like I 0:18:56.359 --> 0:19:00.030 do for you. Yeah, I just pretend to be doing 0:19:00.030 --> 0:19:01.590 my shit. I'm just not. 0:19:01.609 --> 0:19:03.320 And I was like, so thankful that he was OK. 0:19:03.520 --> 0:19:04.000 I mean, it's 0:19:04.040 --> 0:19:04.850 like, Oh my gosh, no. 0:19:04.850 --> 0:19:05.900 The next one I after I did. 0:19:06.770 --> 0:19:09.680 Wow. But it was it was fun. 0:19:10.220 --> 0:19:12.230 I mean, I really enjoy reading. It's like one of 0:19:12.230 --> 0:19:15.830 those things that and I guess even though I felt 0:19:15.830 --> 0:19:18.679 it in my gut, even as a young 20, something 0:19:18.980 --> 0:19:20.930 knowing that I want to do radio or TV, I 0:19:20.930 --> 0:19:23.240 still really like radio. I like the whole medium. I 0:19:23.240 --> 0:19:26.510 like the whole everything about it. So yeah, I mean, 0:19:26.510 --> 0:19:28.490 that does my my memory of radio. 0:19:28.580 --> 0:19:33.290 Cool. Cool, cool. And then when did you officially leave? 0:19:34.400 --> 0:19:36.530 This is a funny question. I've never been Aziz in 0:19:36.530 --> 0:19:37.189 an interview. 0:19:37.230 --> 0:19:40.250 Oh, well, you're welcome. Yeah. 0:19:40.550 --> 0:19:42.040 We don't even know how to answer you. 0:19:42.080 --> 0:19:43.790 Oh, I you. But what when were you done with 0:19:43.790 --> 0:19:46.160 the company and you did your own thing full time? 0:19:46.609 --> 0:19:48.830 I think it was like a slow process, like after 0:19:48.830 --> 0:19:52.220 I left radio. Yeah. And then it was very like I. 0:19:52.250 --> 0:19:55.430 My contract became looser. I signed them all. They still 0:19:55.430 --> 0:19:58.699 kind of management projects and stuff about their projects. And 0:19:58.700 --> 0:20:00.470 then but I realized like I was getting a gigs 0:20:00.470 --> 0:20:02.930 on my own. Hmm. Right. And a lot of because 0:20:02.930 --> 0:20:04.869 I was hosting a lot more and. They do a 0:20:04.869 --> 0:20:07.149 lot of live events. Yeah. And for some reason, like you, 0:20:07.150 --> 0:20:08.920 me to call me, I did live events too. But 0:20:08.920 --> 0:20:11.379 it was just like a lot of friends from all 0:20:11.560 --> 0:20:14.440 would be calling me for life events. And then I 0:20:14.440 --> 0:20:17.889 like the freedom of of just doing it myself. And 0:20:17.890 --> 0:20:20.859 then I started doing YouTube. They started producing YouTube. And 0:20:20.859 --> 0:20:22.930 then they all got a bit angry because it was like, 0:20:22.930 --> 0:20:25.449 So does this belong to, you know, the company or 0:20:25.450 --> 0:20:28.270 this is belong to me? Yeah. And then and then 0:20:28.270 --> 0:20:30.909 at one point, I remember being very unhappy because there 0:20:30.910 --> 0:20:32.379 were projects that I didn't really want to do, but 0:20:32.380 --> 0:20:34.630 it was hard to say no to that answer. Yes, 0:20:34.630 --> 0:20:35.649 I was like, You know, I'm just going to take 0:20:35.650 --> 0:20:37.210 a break and do it my own. And that was 0:20:37.210 --> 0:20:40.600 Kerry tool, but it was also very liberating. And then 0:20:40.600 --> 0:20:42.220 so I was like, You know what? I'm going to, 0:20:42.400 --> 0:20:43.780 I'm going to be in the pool house, guys. I 0:20:44.020 --> 0:20:47.230 believe you'll be like, have no work. But it didn't 0:20:47.230 --> 0:20:48.700 turn out to be like that, thankfully. So I'm very 0:20:48.700 --> 0:20:51.100 thankful to, you know, friends and clans who who gave 0:20:51.100 --> 0:20:54.220 me jobs and then saw me through that transition period. Yeah. 0:20:54.520 --> 0:20:57.190 And then I realized, like, you know, I really enjoy 0:20:57.200 --> 0:21:01.360 doing things on my own. Yeah, yeah. I still love like, 0:21:01.850 --> 0:21:04.990 I don't know if I love TV. I still love radio. 0:21:05.320 --> 0:21:06.940 I think for TV, like there's a part of me 0:21:06.940 --> 0:21:08.530 that likes it, but there's a part of me that 0:21:08.530 --> 0:21:11.290 likes the freedom that comes with, you know, calling the shots. 0:21:12.010 --> 0:21:13.720 So I know that I feel like I've done both. 0:21:13.750 --> 0:21:15.459 I can make better informed decisions 0:21:15.480 --> 0:21:18.580 and you've no idea, you know, even though because of 0:21:18.580 --> 0:21:19.689 the way you put it, you have no idea how 0:21:19.690 --> 0:21:22.600 much bravery it takes to do what you did leave 0:21:22.600 --> 0:21:25.540 the company and has regular confidence to do on your 0:21:25.540 --> 0:21:27.580 own because you asked me, I can't do it. I 0:21:27.580 --> 0:21:29.670 don't have the confidence to say, I'll leave me a call. 0:21:29.800 --> 0:21:31.810 I'll do my own thing and you'll be successful. I 0:21:31.810 --> 0:21:33.430 don't think so. I don't think I could do that. 0:21:33.580 --> 0:21:36.010 I mean, it's scary, but like, Oh yeah, I also 0:21:36.010 --> 0:21:38.830 had the support of Sharon at that point because she 0:21:38.830 --> 0:21:40.389 was starting on. They say, I don't know if you 0:21:40.390 --> 0:21:42.310 remember the yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right. So then 0:21:42.310 --> 0:21:43.510 I pitched the idea. I was like, Why don't we 0:21:43.510 --> 0:21:46.070 do stuff together? And then like somehow. So that gave 0:21:46.070 --> 0:21:48.100 me a bit more confidence as well. And I was 0:21:48.100 --> 0:21:49.840 like one foot in, one foot out and you know, 0:21:49.840 --> 0:21:51.580 it was cool. But the company has always been very kind. 0:21:51.580 --> 0:21:53.740 So they still gave me some projects even though I 0:21:53.740 --> 0:21:56.980 wasn't signed. Cool. Yeah. So I made the transition to 0:21:56.980 --> 0:21:58.359 be less scary. 0:21:58.720 --> 0:21:59.980 So there's no bridges. But um, 0:22:00.850 --> 0:22:01.659 I like to think that 0:22:02.859 --> 0:22:05.230 there's nobody who nobody here who goes like this. 0:22:06.730 --> 0:22:08.410 I don't know many that it was like, Oh, can 0:22:08.410 --> 0:22:10.450 you please get in touch? Because the other thing about 0:22:10.450 --> 0:22:14.050 my personality, which I've been told is a double edged sword, 0:22:14.410 --> 0:22:18.850 is I am insensitive. Oh my goodness. No, my mother 0:22:18.850 --> 0:22:21.969 says I'm insensitive, so I am brutally honest. But I'm 0:22:21.970 --> 0:22:23.949 also a bit insensitive. So if you don't tell me 0:22:23.950 --> 0:22:27.010 to my face, am quite often offended by what you 0:22:27.010 --> 0:22:28.920 said to me. I may not know is wrong. 0:22:29.020 --> 0:22:31.290 I mean, I always thought of you, though I'm just 0:22:31.300 --> 0:22:33.950 like you. You're very honest and I like, This is good. 0:22:34.240 --> 0:22:35.840 All these while I thought you guys like me by 0:22:35.840 --> 0:22:38.170 if all secretly don't know me, I wouldn't know. I 0:22:38.170 --> 0:22:38.640 wouldn't know. 0:22:38.650 --> 0:22:43.449 We're not honest. Or we wouldn't tell you my honesty. 0:22:43.450 --> 0:22:46.179 Honestly, wouldn't know. So, yeah, I don't know. I don't 0:22:46.180 --> 0:22:48.030 know if I've unwittingly of anything more along the way, 0:22:48.040 --> 0:22:50.470 some of my close friends. But close enough, I remember 0:22:50.470 --> 0:22:54.190 this one close friend actually texted me one day. Yeah, 0:22:54.250 --> 0:22:55.800 but they are no Ian, Matt, and she's like, I'm 0:22:55.810 --> 0:22:58.030 actually quite upset with you and upset by something that 0:22:58.030 --> 0:23:01.060 you said. Like what? She said, like you say yesterday 0:23:01.060 --> 0:23:02.060 and I had no, no, 0:23:02.080 --> 0:23:03.130 oh god, what was 0:23:03.130 --> 0:23:04.810 it? I don't know. Somewhere along the line, she said, 0:23:04.810 --> 0:23:07.930 I insinuated that she was fat and my friend is 0:23:07.930 --> 0:23:11.580 thinner than me. I don't know. Is it possible that 0:23:11.630 --> 0:23:13.290 I would have said that she was fat too, I 0:23:13.290 --> 0:23:14.400 think is very rude to call people fat? 0:23:15.070 --> 0:23:17.439 How is it possible that someone delivered you? Are you 0:23:17.859 --> 0:23:20.760 missing the point? Oh, sure. 0:23:20.869 --> 0:23:24.280 Truly, I handle Archie's. They know me. So I was like, Babe, sure, 0:23:24.290 --> 0:23:25.900 I don't know why he said that. But you think that, 0:23:25.900 --> 0:23:28.810 but I didn't mean it. And I mean, I go love, 0:23:28.810 --> 0:23:30.130 and I'm so glad you brought it up to me, 0:23:30.130 --> 0:23:31.750 because if not, she would have been upset and I'd 0:23:31.750 --> 0:23:34.010 be like, Oh, you would never have known. So yeah. 0:23:34.300 --> 0:23:36.940 Public announcement, please. If you're unhappy me, you have to 0:23:36.940 --> 0:23:39.369 tell me I'm insensitive like that. My mother scold me 0:23:39.369 --> 0:23:41.000 about this all the time. I have no idea you'll 0:23:41.020 --> 0:23:44.199 find me. You asked me, Do I have any bridges? 0:23:44.200 --> 0:23:46.340 But I will say, No, no, no, no. 0:23:46.740 --> 0:23:48.700 OK, I don't know what you do. I don't think 0:23:48.700 --> 0:23:51.160 you do, because I doubt it. We all know your 0:23:51.160 --> 0:23:53.109 name is always mentioned with a laugh, with a laugh 0:23:53.320 --> 0:23:57.310 on every year around here, you know, but you've got 0:23:57.310 --> 0:23:59.320 an old thing, which is, like I said, a lot 0:23:59.320 --> 0:24:03.429 of people would be envious of that. Yeah. Let me 0:24:03.430 --> 0:24:06.669 ask you a maybe insensitive question. So get me to 0:24:06.670 --> 0:24:10.230 my favorite things. One to know exactly what to say. 0:24:10.250 --> 0:24:10.880 I'm very OK. 0:24:11.619 --> 0:24:13.300 Thank you, everybody. How do you make money now? 0:24:13.930 --> 0:24:16.300 Well, actually that one, right? I tell people there is 0:24:16.300 --> 0:24:17.859 the long answer and the short answer to that. And 0:24:17.859 --> 0:24:19.930 you're know, it's not an insensitive question, although it is 0:24:20.350 --> 0:24:22.930 a slightly tiresome question. When I'm asked, is our party 0:24:23.020 --> 0:24:25.430 OK with a drink in hand? Liaises even a nice 0:24:25.430 --> 0:24:25.600 to meet. 0:24:26.200 --> 0:24:26.609 I'm sorry. 0:24:27.220 --> 0:24:29.020 Justin's really like how you make money on all these, 0:24:29.020 --> 0:24:31.600 you know, no celebrity. They actually say like and I 0:24:31.800 --> 0:24:32.530 I don't get offended. 0:24:32.530 --> 0:24:34.660 But I mean, you're no longer a celebrity. Yeah, I mean, 0:24:34.760 --> 0:24:36.340 people say that he was saying it to you. I 0:24:36.340 --> 0:24:38.090 don't have anybody like they say, and they ask you, 0:24:38.100 --> 0:24:39.370 How do you make money? And I don't know how 0:24:39.369 --> 0:24:42.609 to explain, right? So you want the long answer, the 0:24:42.609 --> 0:24:43.139 short answer, 0:24:43.930 --> 0:24:46.180 just as long as you want. This is a podcast, man. 0:24:46.190 --> 0:24:47.959 It's it's all your airtime. 0:24:47.960 --> 0:24:50.980 OK? The long answer is I feel like the world 0:24:50.980 --> 0:24:53.650 has changed. The medium has changed. The mediums have changed. 0:24:54.070 --> 0:24:57.520 Right now, it's no longer about just the medium. I 0:24:57.520 --> 0:25:00.250 like the thing. It's it's you as the person. And 0:25:00.280 --> 0:25:02.230 it's a struggle on my own. I realize it is 0:25:02.260 --> 0:25:04.570 me and what I bring to the table in. In 0:25:04.570 --> 0:25:09.190 whatever context it is, you're right, so I've also I've reconciled, 0:25:09.190 --> 0:25:11.620 this is a hard question to answer. It was because 0:25:11.619 --> 0:25:13.650 I use a few very offensive like, you know, I 0:25:13.680 --> 0:25:15.760 owe you money what way I want? No question. But 0:25:15.760 --> 0:25:17.800 over the years, I'm like, You know, I find it funny. Yeah. 0:25:17.800 --> 0:25:20.290 And I was honest and people are curious. So there 0:25:20.290 --> 0:25:23.560 are many channels like the very when I do interviews, 0:25:23.560 --> 0:25:24.940 people are like, So are you a 0:25:25.540 --> 0:25:26.830 YouTube instructor, 0:25:26.830 --> 0:25:30.100 the YouTuber? Are you a positive psychology practitioner? You are 0:25:30.100 --> 0:25:33.010 a lecturer. You are what? I'm like, you know, for 0:25:33.010 --> 0:25:36.040 your purpose, just use whatever you want. Yeah, because it doesn't. 0:25:36.040 --> 0:25:39.790 It doesn't matter anymore. Yeah. OK. One is the social media. Yeah, 0:25:40.210 --> 0:25:42.700 and that's the most obvious, right? So I guess you 0:25:42.700 --> 0:25:45.340 can say there's the content creation part of it. So 0:25:45.400 --> 0:25:48.460 I create videos, but increasingly people also pay for like 0:25:48.460 --> 0:25:52.210 four opposed. Yeah. Or like I do consultancy work actually 0:25:52.630 --> 0:25:54.960 for brands, which I don't really talk about. OK. Right. 0:25:54.970 --> 0:25:56.350 So brands come to me and they're like, you know, 0:25:56.350 --> 0:25:58.330 they need help with their marketing or their social media. 0:25:58.330 --> 0:26:01.080 So I do it back and I have staff who 0:26:01.090 --> 0:26:02.590 help me do that. I don't like it. I don't 0:26:02.590 --> 0:26:05.800 talk about it. But it was a very natural and 0:26:05.800 --> 0:26:08.199 even choose to start this business. Some people came to 0:26:08.200 --> 0:26:10.450 me the like as a friend. They ask for help 0:26:10.450 --> 0:26:12.220 and then a lot of times I just help. And 0:26:12.220 --> 0:26:14.050 then they're like, If you Bella, can I pay you 0:26:14.050 --> 0:26:15.850 a bit of money? So you do this for me? 0:26:16.330 --> 0:26:17.689 You know, and and so I started doing that for 0:26:17.690 --> 0:26:20.230 a few brands selectively. Very cool. Right. So that's the 0:26:20.230 --> 0:26:21.790 social media part. And then there's the front end that 0:26:21.790 --> 0:26:25.480 you see, which is the content creation part. I took 0:26:25.480 --> 0:26:29.740 a course in positive psychology, so I'm a certified positive 0:26:29.740 --> 0:26:31.450 psychology practitioner and 0:26:31.450 --> 0:26:36.310 I tried everything to say yes, no positive psychology, no money. 0:26:36.400 --> 0:26:40.390 Yes, you are coming to my next book. I literally 0:26:40.390 --> 0:26:42.760 ran a workshop just a month ago, right? The art 0:26:42.760 --> 0:26:43.680 of saying No, 0:26:43.740 --> 0:26:45.160 wow, OK. 0:26:45.190 --> 0:26:48.730 Yeah, is not everything. Say yes. So I mean, I 0:26:48.730 --> 0:26:50.800 go outside to find that because I realized all these years, 0:26:50.800 --> 0:26:52.929 I've done all these readings and this book, and it 0:26:52.930 --> 0:26:55.480 was to do that. But wow, I just I put 0:26:55.480 --> 0:26:58.150 it in the starting line again. I mean, so I 0:26:58.150 --> 0:27:00.550 decided to study and and get that done. And then 0:27:00.550 --> 0:27:03.640 so I run workshops, right? I do like small group 0:27:03.640 --> 0:27:06.490 coaching sessions. I'm not a psychologist. People always ask me, 0:27:06.490 --> 0:27:08.500 Are you a psychologist? You want a balance? I'm like, No, 0:27:08.950 --> 0:27:10.840 but I can coach you and I do more like 0:27:10.840 --> 0:27:13.570 workshop based stuff. So pre-COVID, I had plans to do 0:27:13.570 --> 0:27:17.080 a huge like retreats, like a few days. You stay 0:27:17.080 --> 0:27:19.570 in shape. And I combine it with the physical aspect 0:27:19.570 --> 0:27:23.500 because part of positive psychology is that the physical activity 0:27:23.500 --> 0:27:25.419 is very important and you guys know how much I 0:27:25.420 --> 0:27:27.280 do of that. So I wanted to marry the tool 0:27:27.580 --> 0:27:30.830 and put that together. So that's another, I guess, income stream. Yeah, 0:27:31.330 --> 0:27:34.070 you know, and of course, I teach bones. Yeah, but 0:27:34.070 --> 0:27:35.470 that one's more like a hobby like to be honest, 0:27:35.470 --> 0:27:37.900 because I only teach once a week. Wednesdays, 7pm Hope 0:27:37.900 --> 0:27:41.720 to see you guys there. OK. Yeah. I culture studios. 0:27:41.730 --> 0:27:43.780 So I don't own the studio. I really I really. 0:27:43.780 --> 0:27:44.290 It's just it's 0:27:44.320 --> 0:27:45.340 just take a class that I 0:27:45.340 --> 0:27:47.230 just take a class and my friends on in the studio, 0:27:47.230 --> 0:27:49.150 so I just kind of help them out. Wow. And 0:27:49.150 --> 0:27:51.010 I guess the large income stream, which is the one 0:27:51.010 --> 0:27:53.380 I'm most excited and most working on in real hard 0:27:53.380 --> 0:27:55.900 right now is I'm launching an activewear line. I don't 0:27:55.900 --> 0:27:58.119 know if it will be out by the time of 0:27:58.119 --> 0:27:58.690 this podcast. 0:27:58.730 --> 0:28:03.430 Cool. Perfect. Perfect spokesperson for activewear. I know guy who's 0:28:03.430 --> 0:28:03.939 more active there. 0:28:04.359 --> 0:28:06.940 Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I mean, is that are being 0:28:06.940 --> 0:28:08.949 more activewear. But then my partners were like, Let's do it. 0:28:08.950 --> 0:28:11.939 More athleisure, like a studio to dress up a little bit. Yeah, 0:28:11.950 --> 0:28:14.860 but most times I am just in workout clothes on. 0:28:14.859 --> 0:28:18.400 Pandemic dressing meant meant my part-time help didn't come in 0:28:19.330 --> 0:28:21.389 with nothing on it. You're wearing needs to be out 0:28:21.400 --> 0:28:22.940 because they know I'm going to I and that. Yeah. 0:28:23.200 --> 0:28:25.930 So we would wear clothes are really good heels, although 0:28:25.930 --> 0:28:27.690 it's almost every day and we'll work on and we 0:28:28.000 --> 0:28:28.980 then you leave a of. 0:28:29.170 --> 0:28:31.820 And anyway, it's all about comfort. Yeah, for sure. For sure. 0:28:31.869 --> 0:28:33.550 So we'll go again and let you throw on a 0:28:33.550 --> 0:28:36.100 sweater over or whatever. So it's got Juju and it's 0:28:36.100 --> 0:28:38.080 coming out in October. So that's like, I guess 0:28:38.650 --> 0:28:41.560 it's called what Juja Juju Gel? What does it mean? 0:28:41.830 --> 0:28:46.090 It means nothing. It means my partners have names that 0:28:46.270 --> 0:28:53.220 also and you know, Jenny's Jade, Julian and me. OK. 0:28:53.230 --> 0:28:55.810 And another friend and she's the double e's. We're like, 0:28:55.810 --> 0:28:58.730 you know, we just came up, you know, meaning they know, 0:28:58.990 --> 0:28:59.350 I'm sure 0:29:00.060 --> 0:29:04.930 you mean, yeah, there cannot be a meaning to that. 0:29:06.130 --> 0:29:07.960 Like there are two Jews and two jars and one 0:29:07.960 --> 0:29:08.980 eye and the Mallette, just call it too, 0:29:08.990 --> 0:29:11.560 which are nice. I was about to say, Rahayu, yeah, 0:29:11.590 --> 0:29:13.540 you know, we are in the same room. It's called 0:29:13.540 --> 0:29:17.650 bitch to be like spokespersons for Georgia. But no, look, no, no, no, 0:29:17.700 --> 0:29:18.040 it doesn't. 0:29:19.180 --> 0:29:21.940 We have a male line as well as we do. 0:29:21.940 --> 0:29:26.260 It can be done before big just, you know, once 0:29:26.260 --> 0:29:31.660 you usually become the guy. That's my diagnosis. And I 0:29:31.660 --> 0:29:31.810 tell 0:29:31.810 --> 0:29:33.820 you one thing that I missed always design. I got 0:29:33.820 --> 0:29:36.070 to see because you have kids, this one is really 0:29:36.070 --> 0:29:37.870 all my comfort zone. I got to say everything. You're right. 0:29:37.870 --> 0:29:40.960 Everything that we've talked about till now, you're pregnant now, OK? 0:29:41.000 --> 0:29:43.560 I know. Like, I'm shocked 0:29:43.930 --> 0:29:47.020 to hear the shouting, I don't know. Nobody has to 0:29:47.020 --> 0:29:49.390 do with kids. OK, so I'm going to push Malaysia 0:29:49.390 --> 0:29:52.480 to say, Well, I run a public speaking workshop for kids, mom, 0:29:52.480 --> 0:29:54.750 and this is all my comfort zone, right? Public speaking, 0:29:54.770 --> 0:29:56.890 something I do. I have run workshops on it for 0:29:56.890 --> 0:29:59.640 adults and young adults, but not for kids. It's yeah, yeah. 0:29:59.650 --> 0:30:01.330 But I pulled in, you know, old friends who are 0:30:01.330 --> 0:30:04.830 experts in the area or teachers and stuff like that and. Yes. 0:30:04.940 --> 0:30:07.160 As you read a public speaking workshop for kids, I 0:30:07.160 --> 0:30:10.280 call this because of JTA and in does so much 0:30:10.280 --> 0:30:11.720 energy on me, can I just see? 0:30:11.730 --> 0:30:14.190 Yeah, that's if there's anyone that has more energy than 0:30:14.330 --> 0:30:15.110 is children. 0:30:15.150 --> 0:30:17.150 Yes. Yes, it was a three day workshop after the 0:30:17.150 --> 0:30:20.720 first day. I know I'm such an energetic person. I 0:30:20.720 --> 0:30:23.240 came home and I sat on the couch six p.m. 0:30:23.240 --> 0:30:25.550 and I just collapsed and I was like, Oh, I 0:30:25.550 --> 0:30:26.390 need to lie down. 0:30:26.780 --> 0:30:29.890 Welcome to my Saturday. How do you do it? 0:30:30.330 --> 0:30:32.709 No. Yes, I really kudos to parents. I'm like, Wow, 0:30:32.810 --> 0:30:34.760 no, yeah. You know, it's one of those things that 0:30:34.760 --> 0:30:37.280 you just have to do because it's a necessity, because 0:30:37.490 --> 0:30:40.730 if you leave them alone, the house will burn down. So, 0:30:40.730 --> 0:30:43.080 you know, it is a survival instinct. And then the 0:30:43.080 --> 0:30:44.540 end of night, when they go to bed, then you 0:30:44.540 --> 0:30:46.400 just fall in good shape and 0:30:46.640 --> 0:30:48.830 they are the cutest things. But they have so much 0:30:48.830 --> 0:30:49.520 energy was like, 0:30:49.520 --> 0:30:52.080 Whoa, oh, so so so no kids for you. 0:30:53.450 --> 0:30:57.320 It's not in my current list of plans. I'm not 0:30:57.320 --> 0:30:59.900 really a planner, legislators read. None of this stuff that 0:30:59.900 --> 0:31:01.970 I've done is like, has been planned, but it's not. 0:31:02.300 --> 0:31:04.370 It's not the current like. I need to do this now. 0:31:05.480 --> 0:31:07.969 I mean, I like helping kids, so I'm actually going 0:31:07.970 --> 0:31:11.000 to run a second sippy cup of zero nine and 0:31:11.000 --> 0:31:14.270 which is running going to run skating workshops is that 0:31:14.270 --> 0:31:15.650 if I dance and people are like, Can you teach 0:31:15.650 --> 0:31:18.530 my kids, you know, like, I'm going to bring in 0:31:18.530 --> 0:31:20.800 some friends, OK, sure. And I bring in experts. So 0:31:20.960 --> 0:31:22.520 the other thing I learned along the way is when 0:31:22.520 --> 0:31:24.890 you can do something as well as someone else. Yeah, 0:31:25.070 --> 0:31:26.600 I'll bring in experts who can help me and I 0:31:26.600 --> 0:31:29.420 partner them. And then it's good. But yeah, not not 0:31:29.420 --> 0:31:32.300 my on the list of my priorities right now. Really? 0:31:32.390 --> 0:31:36.470 Right? It's also interesting that learn so many things about it, 0:31:36.470 --> 0:31:38.530 and it doesn't seem, gee, we knew all those years ago. 0:31:38.600 --> 0:31:41.390 We all have a very different, not different. 0:31:41.390 --> 0:31:44.000 As in personality wise, you have the same bubbly character 0:31:44.000 --> 0:31:47.020 that we know, but you're just doing so much. OK. 0:31:47.520 --> 0:31:51.630 And in the most amazing way possible. Exactly. Well done. 0:31:51.830 --> 0:31:55.850 In fact, going back to social media, you have a 0:31:55.850 --> 0:31:57.510 show on on air 0:31:57.830 --> 0:31:59.210 and you guys are going to be on it, 0:31:59.210 --> 0:32:02.270 which we, we we we got to treat it, treat 0:32:02.270 --> 0:32:04.520 it right. So what is it called catch of the day? 0:32:05.540 --> 0:32:08.450 It's so funny. It's called the catch up catch. You 0:32:09.200 --> 0:32:11.000 can't catch up. There is a catch and there is 0:32:11.000 --> 0:32:11.090 a 0:32:11.230 --> 0:32:14.600 show, so you're on a podcast. This is this will 0:32:14.600 --> 0:32:16.460 be a plug for the catch up. We're going to 0:32:16.460 --> 0:32:19.010 be on Jade's YouTube as well. Something to look forward 0:32:19.010 --> 0:32:21.650 to in the weeks to come. So what we're going 0:32:21.650 --> 0:32:23.690 to do that very soon. But one more thing to 0:32:23.690 --> 0:32:26.030 do before we wrap up this podcast. All right. We 0:32:26.030 --> 0:32:27.860 love doing this with all our guests. So we've been 0:32:27.860 --> 0:32:30.050 asking you questions for half an hour now. It's your 0:32:30.050 --> 0:32:31.790 turn to ask us back. Now you're going to ask us, 0:32:31.790 --> 0:32:34.440 obviously a lot more questions on your show. Yeah, but 0:32:34.460 --> 0:32:36.320 but here on the mountain side, which we do require 0:32:36.320 --> 0:32:39.110 you to ask us back a question to wrap up, 0:32:39.110 --> 0:32:40.760 it can be one of us. You can be both 0:32:40.760 --> 0:32:43.090 of us and any question to you. It's up to you. 0:32:43.100 --> 0:32:43.640 What can I ask 0:32:43.640 --> 0:32:44.630 each of you one question? 0:32:45.140 --> 0:32:48.560 Sure. It's your show. You know we do. We make 0:32:48.560 --> 0:32:49.950 up the rules as we go along. Yeah. 0:32:50.260 --> 0:32:51.280 So, OK, Vernon? 0:32:51.890 --> 0:32:55.350 Yes, ma'am. Please ask me to bounce back. 0:32:56.300 --> 0:33:00.080 That would be if you got any more plans for 0:33:00.080 --> 0:33:02.000 any more kids. No. And what have you 0:33:02.330 --> 0:33:06.110 one more know? Does it not? I'm getting a vasectomy, 0:33:07.580 --> 0:33:11.810 isn't it? Let's say enough, and you're listening. You first 0:33:11.810 --> 0:33:14.450 year on the block. No, we both don't want any 0:33:14.450 --> 0:33:18.440 more kids. Yeah, it it. It's a blessing to have kids, 0:33:18.440 --> 0:33:23.540 but I think we're at our maximum limit now. Handling 0:33:23.540 --> 0:33:26.360 two is is no more than anyone can handle. And 0:33:27.110 --> 0:33:29.720 you know what I do. I hate to give the B.S. answer, 0:33:29.720 --> 0:33:32.360 but if it happens, it happens. But we're not planning 0:33:32.360 --> 0:33:33.960 for any more kids. Oh yeah. 0:33:34.010 --> 0:33:35.790 So if he doesn't get the vasectomy, you're NOLA. 0:33:35.810 --> 0:33:40.340 Yeah, yeah. If it's not vasectomies comes out, then you know, like, no, 0:33:40.370 --> 0:33:42.410 if it's not a vasectomy is a knee to the groin. 0:33:42.560 --> 0:33:47.830 So it's basically what happens from here is oopsie, you know? Yeah. 0:33:48.440 --> 0:33:50.300 But then you go doing this in a very nice 0:33:50.300 --> 0:33:53.959 question in India. The kids are a blessing. Don't get 0:33:53.960 --> 0:33:56.280 us wrong. We we love having kids do this cute. 0:33:56.280 --> 0:33:58.760 This boy did not say anything, but, but yeah, you know, 0:33:58.760 --> 0:34:00.800 I think there's a limit and I'm not getting any 0:34:00.800 --> 0:34:02.210 younger as well. So yeah, I 0:34:02.210 --> 0:34:03.860 have a friend. I have friends who follow you guys 0:34:03.860 --> 0:34:07.370 for your kids. Oh, kids are really, really, you know, 0:34:07.970 --> 0:34:11.240 I tell his wife very often, like, there's not enough 0:34:11.239 --> 0:34:12.529 post about the kids. 0:34:12.530 --> 0:34:13.590 Yeah, is so cute. 0:34:13.620 --> 0:34:16.190 That's not enough Insta stories. We want to be that you. 0:34:16.190 --> 0:34:18.710 They think bears are both good pictures all the time. 0:34:19.070 --> 0:34:22.190 That's only if your kids are ugly. Oh my god, 0:34:22.310 --> 0:34:24.660 kids are cute, is he? He's not a bear in 0:34:24.680 --> 0:34:24.710 the 0:34:25.850 --> 0:34:26.000 up 0:34:26.180 --> 0:34:31.360 and say this. Exactly. OK, Justin? Yes. Yes. Oh, I. Know. 0:34:31.910 --> 0:34:34.009 I know kids. I never. I never wanted kids. 0:34:34.010 --> 0:34:36.469 I already knew that going from all those years, baby, 0:34:36.469 --> 0:34:37.430 I think we had this question. 0:34:37.460 --> 0:34:39.170 Yeah, we had this conversation years 0:34:39.170 --> 0:34:44.529 ago and it was like two kids love one another, 0:34:44.570 --> 0:34:46.040 two kids and then two more kids. 0:34:46.310 --> 0:34:48.719 I'm making kids for the both of you. So, yeah, 0:34:48.739 --> 0:34:50.780 thank you for representing. So making up for what's up 0:34:50.780 --> 0:34:51.110 with that. 0:34:51.440 --> 0:34:54.500 But do you have any? I don't know a plan 0:34:54.500 --> 0:34:58.030 for yourself. Oh yeah. Anything in general, right? 0:34:59.840 --> 0:35:02.150 Beyond eating ideal for lunch. 0:35:02.770 --> 0:35:03.810 Hey, was you have I did have a lunch. 0:35:03.989 --> 0:35:07.460 No, I know. Thank you, bye. No, that's that's a 0:35:07.489 --> 0:35:10.609 that's actually a question that our H.R. department asked me 0:35:10.610 --> 0:35:14.540 every year during our during our annual review. Like, what 0:35:14.540 --> 0:35:17.629 do you want to do just in of anything else 0:35:17.630 --> 0:35:24.500 you wanted to know? OK, so so so the honest 0:35:24.500 --> 0:35:26.750 truth is this this show that we're doing now at 0:35:26.750 --> 0:35:29.340 least one out The Morning Show on Class 5A. It 0:35:29.340 --> 0:35:31.310 just takes up so much of your time. So much 0:35:31.310 --> 0:35:35.090 of your mental energy. And saying this to you is 0:35:35.090 --> 0:35:37.669 pointless because you do like to 200 times more things 0:35:37.670 --> 0:35:38.509 that I know. 0:35:38.510 --> 0:35:39.860 I know how much goes into our readers 0:35:39.960 --> 0:35:43.760 so much that I feel like if I do anything else, 0:35:44.150 --> 0:35:47.180 I seem to do with, with with, with radio or whatever. Right? 0:35:47.390 --> 0:35:50.239 I'm just I'm going to do a lot of things good. 0:35:50.469 --> 0:35:51.440 I will do anything well. 0:35:52.040 --> 0:35:54.290 I'll get what I need to learn is focus. So 0:35:54.290 --> 0:35:56.870 that's something I also like to say. No. Yeah, I'll 0:35:56.870 --> 0:35:59.060 say no. So you kind of focus 0:35:59.060 --> 0:36:00.380 it over the years, of course. Do you want to 0:36:00.380 --> 0:36:01.609 do this or do that? You ought to handle this. 0:36:01.760 --> 0:36:03.830 I'm like, No, because I then I will do too 0:36:03.830 --> 0:36:06.230 many things and everything will be done, OK, but nothing 0:36:06.230 --> 0:36:08.990 is done really good. So I want to I want 0:36:08.989 --> 0:36:11.239 to concentrate on this is the is the biggest morning 0:36:11.239 --> 0:36:13.580 show in Singapore. I need to concentrate on it. And 0:36:13.580 --> 0:36:16.100 of course, you probably know we run a side business. Yes. 0:36:16.280 --> 0:36:19.130 With food as well. Yeah, that's that's about all I 0:36:19.130 --> 0:36:20.990 have time for. If you want to learn to say no, 0:36:20.989 --> 0:36:23.060 I'll lend you my son you to brush your teeth. 0:36:23.060 --> 0:36:28.340 No salad, no going to sleep. No. He is very good. 0:36:28.340 --> 0:36:31.720 Very good. So it's unambitious as it sounds. No, I 0:36:31.739 --> 0:36:36.319 love the focus. No plans to add on to any more, Noel. Nice. Right, Jane. 0:36:36.320 --> 0:36:37.670 Thank you for spending time with us. 0:36:37.790 --> 0:36:38.560 Thanks for having me. 0:36:38.570 --> 0:36:42.300 I appreciate. Always nice to chat with a friend. Oh yeah. 0:36:42.800 --> 0:36:45.860 Reminiscing and all that. I appreciate the catch up. See 0:36:45.860 --> 0:36:48.950 the plan that I saw, of course. Catch us on 0:36:48.950 --> 0:36:52.469 Jane's show. That's right. Her Instagram and YouTube as well. 0:36:52.500 --> 0:36:53.960 How do we find you on YouTube again? What's your 0:36:53.960 --> 0:36:55.140 what's a channel name you do? 0:36:55.160 --> 0:36:58.250 So the catch up is on monster TV, the online. OK, right? 0:36:58.250 --> 0:36:59.990 By the way, is if you just follow me on Instagram, 0:36:59.989 --> 0:37:01.100 all the updates will be there anyway. 0:37:01.130 --> 0:37:04.340 Fantastic. Very cool. Very cool. Yeah. Thanks for hanging with 0:37:04.340 --> 0:37:06.170 us today. Thank you. Thanks for bouncing with us.