WEBVTT - Should My Partner be JEALOUS of My Friendship?

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<v Speaker 1>But sometimes I do consider the fact that your partner

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<v Speaker 1>can see something you can't. When men go into relationship

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<v Speaker 1>or friendship with a girl, they may see this woman

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<v Speaker 1>as a potential partner. Is that true?

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<v Speaker 2>And why we are friends? I think we give with

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<v Speaker 2>giving each other the egg also. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously, like your friends give you an egg. That's why

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<v Speaker 1>you're not dating your friends.

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<v Speaker 1>You know who your friends are like,

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<v Speaker 1>hey guys, welcome to another episode of men. Explain if

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<v Speaker 1>episode today. It's a topic that we've kind of delved

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<v Speaker 1>in before. Can men and women be besties? But we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to address something a little deeper today.

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<v Speaker 1>Friendship boundaries. Should your friendship change along with your relationship status?

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<v Speaker 1>In other words, is there a reason for your partner

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<v Speaker 1>to be jealous of your best friend? Now, to delve

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<v Speaker 1>further into this today, we've got two real life besties

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<v Speaker 1>with us right now. Attica and her. Welcome them. Hello.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for you. Want to introduce yourself to our viewers.

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, my name is Atiqah and I'm a content creator

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<v Speaker 1>and this is my best friend

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<v Speaker 2>here. Hello, I'm here. I run a production house called

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<v Speaker 2>Subset

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm Aa's friend

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<v Speaker 1>and friends for five years. Five years. Ok. So five

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<v Speaker 1>years was enough to call each other best friend. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't matter, the time, doesn't matter the quality of

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<v Speaker 1>the friendship. So, tell me, how did you guys meet? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>we met in university in our first year and we

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<v Speaker 1>had a mutual friend

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<v Speaker 1>and that's how we were introduced to each other. And

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<v Speaker 1>then we sort of clicked like our personalities match and

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<v Speaker 1>we join like the friend group and then we became

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<v Speaker 1>best friends. We were in the same club in uni,

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<v Speaker 1>we were in track and field. So we had the

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<v Speaker 1>same interests and we took same classes. So why didn't

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<v Speaker 1>this become like a relationship? Like, why did you?

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no.

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<v Speaker 2>I was curious

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<v Speaker 1>because I want to tell the hard questions just straight

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<v Speaker 1>into it one minute.

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<v Speaker 2>Have

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<v Speaker 1>you met me? No, you haven't. Actually the first time

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<v Speaker 1>that thought never crossed my mind. And I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>why didn't you cross my mind?

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<v Speaker 1>But for me, it was really natural that we became

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<v Speaker 1>friends and

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<v Speaker 2>she was already in a relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>So, ok. But you are in a relationship. So did

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<v Speaker 1>your partner find it? I don't know, uncomfortable that you

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<v Speaker 1>were getting closer to someone of the opposite sex? No,

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<v Speaker 1>I think

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<v Speaker 1>also because in my relationship, I, we had a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of friends of other sex. So, like, it was, it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't something of this world that I made a friend

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<v Speaker 1>in UNI, was of a different gender. So, and I

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<v Speaker 1>also introduced him to her. So it wasn't,

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<v Speaker 1>it was completely open. There was no tension. It was like, it, like,

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't even like, oh, I met a friend. No,

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<v Speaker 1>it was like, oh, I'm gonna hang out with was there?

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<v Speaker 1>It was my friend in UNI.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And also I think it helps that we were, like,

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<v Speaker 2>in situations where, like, it's not that we tried to

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<v Speaker 2>hang out. So we had classes together or, like, we

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<v Speaker 2>would meet after school because we were going to track,

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<v Speaker 1>like, you were, like, in my room alone. Like we

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<v Speaker 1>were like,

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<v Speaker 1>but towards the end, like, the last few years of

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<v Speaker 1>our friendship, we basically already established as completely at the start.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't like anything like we're hanging out at night

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<v Speaker 1>and some, some you guys talk about everything and anything

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<v Speaker 1>because I came from a girls school for, like, 10 years. Right. So,

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<v Speaker 1>naturally a lot of my very close friends,

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<v Speaker 1>friends are girls. Yeah, I do have a couple, one

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<v Speaker 1>or two, like, really close guy friends. You've met one

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<v Speaker 1>of him. Avery is one of my very close man friends,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't see him as, like a guy that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna hook up with or ever. I hope he's

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<v Speaker 1>never seen me that way. I'm not sure. Please don't

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<v Speaker 1>ask him. I don't want to know. But, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes to that I confide in my girlfriends

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<v Speaker 1>in a very,

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<v Speaker 1>in a very different way than I would confide in

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<v Speaker 1>my close guy friends. So, is that the same for

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<v Speaker 1>you guys? For me? It's the same. I was also

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<v Speaker 1>from a gold school. I was in a gold school

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<v Speaker 1>for like five years in my secondary school. And I

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<v Speaker 1>do feel like I connect well, I connect better with

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<v Speaker 1>females and there's just some things that you can speak

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<v Speaker 1>to your female friends that you can't do with your

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<v Speaker 1>guy friends. I'm sorry. But this is like,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to know what can you tell your girlfriends

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<v Speaker 1>that you can't tell you some things that are just

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<v Speaker 1>more emotional. OK? Some things that I, I

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't be able to compute it

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<v Speaker 1>don't have that, that neurons the way we do the same,

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<v Speaker 1>like maybe the same empathy females have for each other.

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<v Speaker 1>Like the same, the way you go about life, the

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<v Speaker 1>way you see life is very different from, from a

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<v Speaker 1>female lens and a male lens. So there are some

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<v Speaker 1>things that

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I want to tell her but like it's

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<v Speaker 1>not like I'm withholding it from you. It's just that

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<v Speaker 1>I would feel more comfortable telling my girlfriend is that

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<v Speaker 1>also similar, like stuff that you would tell me your bros,

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<v Speaker 1>you mean? Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>No, differently. Yeah. I think, I mean, I guess friendships

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<v Speaker 2>with girls is, like, different from friendship with other guys. Right. So,

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<v Speaker 2>male friendships, I mean, we talk about stuff that I

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't talk to article with just maybe it's inappropriate or something. But, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but then I think female friendships offer different sort of

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<v Speaker 2>function and perspective. I think also, I think I said also, like,

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<v Speaker 2>I think I feel a bit more comfortable or, like,

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<v Speaker 2>opening up to her about, like, emotional stuff that I

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't talk with my guy friends. You

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't mind being a bit more vulnerable.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, because I feel like they don't judge. But with,

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<v Speaker 2>but then with the boys is like, kind of like,

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<v Speaker 2>sweep things under the rug almost and sometimes, like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you would,

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<v Speaker 1>yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you guys don't know how to react when you open

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<v Speaker 1>up emotionally. I feel the awkwardness in the air when

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<v Speaker 1>guys try to open up then they're like, is

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<v Speaker 2>like, damn, that's crazy. Yeah. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I know that, that's true. You're not getting the in

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<v Speaker 1>depth views.

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<v Speaker 2>It is very, I think, like, with male friendships is

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<v Speaker 2>very rare. I mean, I have one or two friends

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<v Speaker 2>I really open up with and we are really close

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<v Speaker 2>like that, but I think in general

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't really happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Is Atiqah your only very close female friend? I would

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<v Speaker 1>say I have 20, ok. Ok. Jasmine. How about How

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<v Speaker 1>about you? Guy friends? I actually don't have, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think I have a lot of guy friends. Actually. I

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<v Speaker 1>have you, I have a couple but they are overseas.

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<v Speaker 1>So similar. Similarly. I feel the same way as you. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I still have more female friends. Definitely more female friends. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Definitely more female friends. Ok. So then

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<v Speaker 1>let's take it to when you guys are dating or

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<v Speaker 1>in relationships. Ok. I'm sure you've already kind of been,

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<v Speaker 1>you've dated while you had this friendship,

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<v Speaker 2>right? Honestly, I've been single for quite some time. Ok.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't date but then it's like maybe like

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<v Speaker 2>talking to someone but then

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<v Speaker 2>not, nothing

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<v Speaker 1>serious. Ok. So in that process, I'm not sure if

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<v Speaker 1>you are dating now. Are you currently? I'm seeing someone. Ok.

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<v Speaker 1>So during that process of dating other people, has it

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<v Speaker 1>ever cropped up? Like this friendship might be an issue

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<v Speaker 1>to your partner.

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<v Speaker 1>My friendship with her. Never, never, never hair was never

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<v Speaker 1>an issue. Yeah. It's also because you have to introduce

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<v Speaker 1>your guy friends to your partner. You have to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>So previously I had an ex that was really not

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<v Speaker 1>comfortable with one of my guy friends and despite the

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<v Speaker 1>formal introductions that we all hang out as a group,

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<v Speaker 1>like it's truly purely platonic, but he was never really

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<v Speaker 1>OK with it.

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't know. What, why did he feel that way? What,

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<v Speaker 1>what did he say? He just said, like, he spends

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<v Speaker 1>so much time around you. Like, I think he likes you,

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<v Speaker 1>but it turns out that he didn't, it was purely platonic.

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<v Speaker 1>But I feel like sometimes though, I mean, this is,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't have blanketed statements or, like, you can have

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<v Speaker 1>a guy friend, you can't have a guy friend or, like,

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<v Speaker 1>guys will never like their girlfriend since obviously it's such

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<v Speaker 1>a gray area and there's so many cases. but sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>I do consider the fact that your partner can see

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<v Speaker 1>something you can,

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<v Speaker 1>like, your partner can maybe, yeah. You know, like, if

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<v Speaker 1>I had, if I was dating someone and he had

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<v Speaker 1>girlfriend and, like, I'm reading the girls cues and I'm like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>that was something I was doing when I was trying

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<v Speaker 1>to get with you, then I would know that I'd

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<v Speaker 1>be able to tell and it would be oblivious to

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<v Speaker 1>the guy. Yeah. So I find it

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<v Speaker 1>like, sometimes it's best unless maybe your partner see something

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<v Speaker 1>that you don't and then maybe it's like by the

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<v Speaker 1>time you ask the guy, he's like, yeah, I just

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<v Speaker 1>saw you as a friend but maybe at that point,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe it was perhaps. But, but I think it also

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<v Speaker 1>comes down to how secure your partner is.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, because I'm still friends with this person and

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<v Speaker 1>my current partner is completely fine with him. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>they're really close.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what happened. Yeah. Right. Ok. Tell me more. What happened.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think with and this is such an individual

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<v Speaker 2>like human thing like connecting with another human being, right?

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<v Speaker 2>So it just so happened to be that like her

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<v Speaker 2>partner at that time, we became really good friends and

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<v Speaker 2>we would even like talk without her in the

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<v Speaker 2>like I will text him, you know, on my own accord.

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<v Speaker 2>So we became friends and it's not just like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm texting Aa's boyfriend, you know, it just so happened

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<v Speaker 2>that we became really close friends and he really trusted

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<v Speaker 2>me and there were no problems with like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you not, that's a broke code and

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<v Speaker 1>stuff like that. But ok, what are some boundaries that

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<v Speaker 1>you would never cross with each other? For example, I

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<v Speaker 1>have a story to share but maybe you can, can

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<v Speaker 1>answer first.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I would never like go out with you

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<v Speaker 1>super late at night and then not tell my partner

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of stuff or like, I don't think we're like,

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<v Speaker 1>really touchy but we like hug friendship, like greeting. Like

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't like, I wouldn't sit like super, super close

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<v Speaker 1>to you, that kind of thing, right? Also, like I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like it doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>happen. Like why would we be doing that

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<v Speaker 1>natural? It's very natural. Like it's a very friendship tonic

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<v Speaker 1>relationship we had. So there's never a case where like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my God, I can't cross this boundary like no,

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<v Speaker 1>like I don't

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<v Speaker 1>behave like that anyway. Yeah. Well, ok, so then I'll

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<v Speaker 1>ask you this question. Would you travel? Just the two

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<v Speaker 1>of you? I would, would we want to? Yeah, we've

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<v Speaker 1>been saying

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<v Speaker 2>we want, we've been saying, would

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<v Speaker 1>you share a room together? No, I don't think, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think I would be. It depends, is a

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<v Speaker 2>budget and we don't have money but given a choice,

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<v Speaker 2>I think

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<v Speaker 1>like, ideally we wouldn't just like, ideally it's like I

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<v Speaker 1>want my own bed, I'll share, I'll share his story

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<v Speaker 1>with you. It's not about me

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<v Speaker 1>but one of my very close friends, he actually was

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<v Speaker 1>attached and he was so sure this goal is like

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<v Speaker 1>the love of his life, sorry was was they broke up.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, so he was so sure love of his life.

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<v Speaker 1>But the problem is she had so many male friends

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<v Speaker 1>a lot in this bigger group. They actually went on

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<v Speaker 1>a trip together, the friend group without him, so without

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<v Speaker 1>my friend.

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<v Speaker 1>So then she goes, oh, you know, the accommodation is

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<v Speaker 1>kind of limited and I'm going to have to share

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<v Speaker 1>a room with this guy, right? Which is a close friend,

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<v Speaker 1>a close friend of hers and my friend always had

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<v Speaker 1>a bad feeling about this guy. He was always like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh man, this dude is like, I think he's trying

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<v Speaker 1>to be funny with her or like he secretly likes

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<v Speaker 1>her or something. And I always told him like, don't

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<v Speaker 1>overthink like if you trust her. Like, maybe she's really,

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully she's telling the truth, you know. And unfortunately he

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<v Speaker 1>was right,

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<v Speaker 1>that guy has liked her since the beginning of time

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<v Speaker 1>and he actually admitted it to her during that trip,

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<v Speaker 1>that he shared the room with her during the trip,

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<v Speaker 1>that he shared the room with her. Like, they share

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<v Speaker 1>the same, they share the same bit. Yes. Oh, my God.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a bit. I feel like if you share the

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<v Speaker 1>same bed, you need like a pillow for like, even

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<v Speaker 1>with my girlfriends, we have a pillow for, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like even if my girl I'm like, look, we

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<v Speaker 1>need to have a vibe here first.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So to me when I heard that story, I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, wow. Firstly, I would never share a bit

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<v Speaker 1>with it. So like

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<v Speaker 2>a bit

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<v Speaker 1>of a red flag. Yeah. Maybe the person's intuition is

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<v Speaker 1>wrong but you should still respect your partner's wishes. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>like I wouldn't want my boyfriend sharing a bit of

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<v Speaker 1>a random girlfriend.

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<v Speaker 1>That would be so weird to me. I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>I'd be ok with that if I, if I trust,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I, it's not that I don't trust but

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<v Speaker 1>I just find that whole concept. I don't know. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>someone that needs my personal space. So I find it

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<v Speaker 1>difficult to even invite like total strangers into my house.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's just, that's just me. Yeah, I think, I

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<v Speaker 1>think I'd be ok with it, if I know the

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<v Speaker 1>gold slot,

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<v Speaker 1>honestly it

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<v Speaker 2>is news even to me, I'm like, really? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like I, because I never took place in such a

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<v Speaker 1>situation so I've never thought about it. But, like, now

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<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking theoretically hypothetically I would be ok.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess it also depends how, well, you know, your

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<v Speaker 2>partner and how secure you are in the relationship as well.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's very like, situation based. Like this friendship that

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<v Speaker 2>we have was very rare. I think you don't really

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<v Speaker 2>get that a lot. I feel. So at the end

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<v Speaker 2>of the day really, it's like, like case by case basis,

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<v Speaker 1>it really is. Yeah. So, so can your significant other

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<v Speaker 1>also be your best friend though? You know, if you're

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<v Speaker 1>dating someone or having been with someone? Can that person

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<v Speaker 1>also be your bestie? Yeah. 100%. I think they should

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<v Speaker 1>be your best friend.

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<v Speaker 1>But in your best friend, in a very different sense

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<v Speaker 1>than my goal, best friend. For example, like, they can

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<v Speaker 1>never replace the friendship I have with my female friends.

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<v Speaker 1>But being in a relationship, I think for me, I've,

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<v Speaker 1>you find friendship in the love and that's how you wanna,

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<v Speaker 1>you wanna be able to enjoy time spent together and

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<v Speaker 1>you shouldn't just be all romantic. I mean, definitely it's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be a romantic relationship. But

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<v Speaker 1>very important part for me in a relationship is the

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<v Speaker 1>friendship is wanting to hang out with them to tell

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<v Speaker 1>that person, everything that, that person has to be the

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<v Speaker 1>first one to know everything. But it's also important to

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<v Speaker 1>have friendship outside of your relationship. Like, that's something that

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<v Speaker 1>you should also have for yourself to, for you to

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<v Speaker 1>have that personal space with your partner as well. And

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't want to say the old gossip by your partner, like,

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<v Speaker 1>share your troubles with your partner, but sometimes you just

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<v Speaker 1>need an outside perspective. You don't want to feel like

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<v Speaker 1>you're completely overwhelmed by one person. Yeah. In these situations,

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<v Speaker 1>have you then ever had to draw any boundaries when

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<v Speaker 1>you started dating? Right?

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<v Speaker 2>A person for me, I would never let someone else

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<v Speaker 2>kind of, like, choose for me. So if the person

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<v Speaker 2>I'm seeing or like I'm talking to, she's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>you know why you always hang up with, say, article

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<v Speaker 2>or something like that?

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, there's no real reason why you should

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<v Speaker 2>be asking that, you know, I would most probably kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like drop and drop that, that person really? Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. You feel like you're being put in a position

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<v Speaker 1>where you're being made to choose between a relationship and your,

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<v Speaker 1>what you regard as a very close

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<v Speaker 2>friendship. And I think if, for example, my friendship article

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<v Speaker 2>is important to me, I would want to keep that,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I think it's important to have a balance.

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<v Speaker 2>LA

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Ok. I mean, you are not wrong. Like, it's

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<v Speaker 1>always important to have a balance. But

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<v Speaker 1>I'm curious also, let's say you meet the love of

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<v Speaker 1>your life.

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<v Speaker 2>I love.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, no. Let's not go to the extent of like,

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<v Speaker 1>I hate whoever but maybe to a certain extent, like,

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<v Speaker 1>is it ok if you spend more time with me

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<v Speaker 1>and a little less time with you because I know

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<v Speaker 1>that you guys spend a whole bunch of time together, right?

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<v Speaker 1>Definitely hang out a lot. So what if it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to like, maybe I want to catch the premiere of

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<v Speaker 1>this movie with you but then you're like, oh, I

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<v Speaker 1>already made plans,

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<v Speaker 2>article got media invite

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<v Speaker 1>or something like that. Would you try to like get

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<v Speaker 1>another ticket for you? Ok. How do you then balance

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<v Speaker 1>that if it's a simple ask of your partner? But

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<v Speaker 1>is it ok if we watch this movie together?

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<v Speaker 2>Because yeah, ok, then I guess in that situation then

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<v Speaker 2>in specific situations where I feel like, yeah, you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean? You're also important to me, right? If

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<v Speaker 2>you're my partner, if you love in my life, then

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<v Speaker 2>of course, I would wanna do that with you, but

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<v Speaker 2>it shouldn't be like, ok, your life you cannot be

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<v Speaker 2>friends with, of course, but in specific situations, I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's ok.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's ok to ask you to strike a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of a balance and you wouldn't take any of that.

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<v Speaker 1>I would if she told me that she wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>hang out with you and you have, I'll be, like,

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<v Speaker 1>hang out with her because I don't want her to

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<v Speaker 1>hate me because I want to be her friend. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'd be like,

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<v Speaker 2>yeah, both of us, we are quite like,

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<v Speaker 2>in terms of friendships, we really share our friendship. So

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<v Speaker 2>I think we also want to bring our, like, significant

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<v Speaker 2>others into the friend group. Hopefully, I think we always,

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<v Speaker 2>our friend group, we always try to like in everyone.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's really important to me that my partner meets

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<v Speaker 1>my friends, like my friends

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<v Speaker 1>hangs out with my friends no 100% like an ecosystem, right?

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<v Speaker 1>You can't just like separate lives. So then in that case,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I've heard of some theories before that men

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<v Speaker 1>and women see friendships with different genders differently. So for example,

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<v Speaker 1>when men go into relationship or friendship with a girl,

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<v Speaker 1>they may see this woman as a potential partner. Is

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<v Speaker 1>that true for you? I

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<v Speaker 2>think there's some context here is that I've always been

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<v Speaker 2>in like classrooms and stuff like that, but the ratio

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<v Speaker 2>is insane like, yeah, so it's way more way more

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<v Speaker 2>girls than guys. So especially when I entered JC, I

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<v Speaker 2>think that was my first time where like maybe like

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<v Speaker 2>five guys in the class and the rest of the Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>for real. So I had to really adjust into like, OK,

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<v Speaker 2>based on that theory, right? I can't be falling in

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<v Speaker 2>love with everyone. So it's almost like managing, managing that

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like friendships with the opposite sex and I

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<v Speaker 2>feel I've gotten used to it and even in uni

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<v Speaker 2>the ratio was insane. Like our whole school, we would

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<v Speaker 2>have like 20 guys and like the rest of girls

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<v Speaker 2>are hundreds of girls. So you would be in like

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<v Speaker 2>group projects with them, you would be

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<v Speaker 2>eating lunch with them but not necessarily you want, that's

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<v Speaker 2>not like it's not like a potential. Wait,

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<v Speaker 1>what course do you take? Communication media that explains it?

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<v Speaker 1>And you were in arts in JC? Arts in JC? OK.

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<v Speaker 1>So then it shows that it's something that you grew

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<v Speaker 1>into as well. It also the environment that you're in

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<v Speaker 1>that has shaped you and opened you up to a

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<v Speaker 1>friendship like this. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And

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<v Speaker 1>for you as well because you were in primarily a

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<v Speaker 1>girl and then, and then I took biology in college

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<v Speaker 1>and so it's all females but it's all female. Biology

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<v Speaker 1>is a female class. Physics will be a male dominated

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<v Speaker 1>class and then I went to communications and then it's

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<v Speaker 1>all female. So I've just been surrounded by females my

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<v Speaker 1>whole life. That's why I don't think I have a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of guy friends and maybe I have like, I

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<v Speaker 1>can off the top of my head. I have like,

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<v Speaker 1>other than you, three more guy friends. So, four

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<v Speaker 1>and they're like, yeah, that's it. I think I have

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<v Speaker 1>more than that. So, so from, from a perspective of

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<v Speaker 1>a woman, then when you look at your male best friends,

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<v Speaker 1>do you see qualities that you may consider good in

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<v Speaker 1>a partner? I mean, I acknowledge like, oh my God,

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<v Speaker 1>you're so sweet. You know, I hope we get a girlfriend,

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<v Speaker 1>you know,

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<v Speaker 1>because you don't have girlfriends right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Always like bugging me about it. Relax. I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 2>be so exciting. What

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<v Speaker 1>exactly are you excited about to have another female in

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<v Speaker 1>our friendship or like, how fun would that be? Right.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, yeah, it, it's very subjective because I've also

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<v Speaker 1>come across

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<v Speaker 1>people in, back in poly and uni when we were

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<v Speaker 1>all in big groups and stuff, people get alienated because

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<v Speaker 1>of their relationships. They end up having to extract themselves

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<v Speaker 1>from a friend group if there's too many girls there or,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, just, it just becomes a difficult

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<v Speaker 2>situation. I've been in a situation where actually, like, twice. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And I wasn't really friends with them. Like, like these

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<v Speaker 2>girls would just be like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, we just know each other, that kind

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<v Speaker 2>of thing and they would like soft block me on Instagram.

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<v Speaker 2>And I will not realize obviously because it's like you

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<v Speaker 2>block and block, right? So we unfollow each other. So,

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<v Speaker 2>and then after a while, like, sh I'm not following

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<v Speaker 2>this person anymore. So I'll ask their friends what happened?

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<v Speaker 2>Did I say something or do something? She was like, oh, no,

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<v Speaker 2>like

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<v Speaker 2>the boyfriend told her to, like, do that to be crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, is it because you think, like, am

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<v Speaker 2>I the problem? But actually, like, when I think about

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<v Speaker 2>it I wasn't even close to the person.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So not even like inner circle level. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't know, he saw me as a threat,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess.

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<v Speaker 1>So. Take it as a compliment.

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<v Speaker 2>But, but, yeah, I think it becomes very awkward and

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how that,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>It has happened to me actually one of my closest

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<v Speaker 1>guy friends, but I wouldn't say it's like super close

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<v Speaker 1>with guy friends. It's like you can't be super close.

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<v Speaker 1>Like for me, that guy wasn't like my super, super close,

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<v Speaker 1>but we've been friends for so long that it's a

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<v Speaker 1>very low maintenance friendship and it was just really chill.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I don't, I don't text him every day. I

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<v Speaker 1>text him like once every six months kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 1>So I bumped into him at the MRT and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, oh my God,

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<v Speaker 1>you, I won't say his name and then I gave

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<v Speaker 1>him a hug and then he hugged me and his girlfriend.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>she's like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my God, I didn't even know, I didn't even

0:21:35.890 --> 0:21:39.520
<v Speaker 1>know like I didn't even sense attention. But after that, well,

0:21:39.530 --> 0:21:41.239
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what happened such a long time ago.

0:21:41.569 --> 0:21:44.410
<v Speaker 1>He told me that the girl was so pissed and

0:21:44.420 --> 0:21:46.530
<v Speaker 1>the girl was mad and they saying that I was

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<v Speaker 1>trying to get this guy and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't text him like, I don't even text, I

0:21:52.500 --> 0:21:55.310
<v Speaker 1>don't text your boyfriend who is my friend. I don't

0:21:55.319 --> 0:21:57.510
<v Speaker 1>text him. I don't hang out with him, never hang

0:21:57.520 --> 0:21:59.890
<v Speaker 1>out with him. One on one before only in like

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<v Speaker 1>group settings. And I was like, that's crazy. I was like,

0:22:03.660 --> 0:22:06.560
<v Speaker 1>that's not, that's like so out of the picture. And

0:22:06.569 --> 0:22:10.329
<v Speaker 1>then I went on a trip with this guy and

0:22:10.410 --> 0:22:12.829
<v Speaker 1>was this guy and a couple of other friends and

0:22:12.839 --> 0:22:15.849
<v Speaker 1>then he was sick and I gave him medicine. I

0:22:15.859 --> 0:22:17.688
<v Speaker 1>was like, you have a fever. Here's some medicine.

0:22:17.890 --> 0:22:19.670
<v Speaker 1>The girl was saying her to poison it.

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<v Speaker 1>Ok? And like it's something that trickles down later on

0:22:25.780 --> 0:22:27.669
<v Speaker 1>in a few weeks. I find out like the girlfriend

0:22:27.680 --> 0:22:29.219
<v Speaker 1>thinks I was trying to poison him last week. Oh

0:22:29.229 --> 0:22:32.420
<v Speaker 1>my God. Yeah. I think you crazy be like, girl,

0:22:32.430 --> 0:22:35.189
<v Speaker 1>if I wanna try to poison him, you won't even notice, ok?

0:22:35.369 --> 0:22:39.000
<v Speaker 1>If I was trying to poison him that you wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>even notice

0:22:40.839 --> 0:22:43.310
<v Speaker 2>what you do, would you want to poison him? But

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<v Speaker 2>if you wanted

0:22:43.839 --> 0:22:44.359
<v Speaker 1>to get with him,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't think of that. And I was like, what

0:22:48.199 --> 0:22:51.050
<v Speaker 1>is this go on about? And then he unfollowed me

0:22:51.060 --> 0:22:54.709
<v Speaker 1>on Instagram. Oh my God. I didn't feel like I didn't,

0:22:54.719 --> 0:22:56.699
<v Speaker 1>I didn't like I wasn't mad. I wasn't like, oh,

0:22:56.709 --> 0:22:59.109
<v Speaker 1>why is she like that? Like, because I know my

0:22:59.119 --> 0:23:02.329
<v Speaker 1>friendship with him is so chill. It's so, like laid

0:23:02.339 --> 0:23:05.550
<v Speaker 1>back and low maintenance that

0:23:06.160 --> 0:23:09.329
<v Speaker 1>he's gonna come around. Yeah, she might not be around.

0:23:09.339 --> 0:23:11.389
<v Speaker 1>She's gonna leave. I don't have to text him. I

0:23:11.400 --> 0:23:13.359
<v Speaker 1>don't have to like, oh, what's wrong with girlfriend? Like,

0:23:13.369 --> 0:23:17.050
<v Speaker 1>let's work this out. It's not invested. I'm not investing

0:23:17.060 --> 0:23:19.109
<v Speaker 1>this guy as big as my friend. And I was like,

0:23:19.119 --> 0:23:21.550
<v Speaker 1>it's fine. We didn't actually, it was kind of something

0:23:21.560 --> 0:23:23.550
<v Speaker 1>that came up and then we were like, oh l

0:23:24.319 --> 0:23:28.660
<v Speaker 1>and then so in the end he no, they broke

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<v Speaker 1>up and then I was like, you can follow me

0:23:30.660 --> 0:23:33.219
<v Speaker 1>back if you want. If you don't, it's fine. Like

0:23:33.239 --> 0:23:34.189
<v Speaker 1>I don't really,

0:23:35.000 --> 0:23:38.819
<v Speaker 1>it's fine. Like sometimes you just have to accept that

0:23:38.890 --> 0:23:42.660
<v Speaker 1>your guy, friends, girlfriends are gonna be like that and

0:23:42.939 --> 0:23:43.989
<v Speaker 1>they'll come over and

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<v Speaker 2>follow you on Instagram. Just understand is that you

0:23:55.599 --> 0:23:58.589
<v Speaker 1>just having spent the last few minutes with you guys.

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<v Speaker 1>I can tell that that will not happen. Like you're

0:24:02.119 --> 0:24:05.208
<v Speaker 1>gonna be like, that's ridiculous guys. Come on, don't make

0:24:05.219 --> 0:24:08.280
<v Speaker 1>me unfollow like I don't know, but some other people

0:24:08.290 --> 0:24:10.510
<v Speaker 1>have a different way of seeing it. Like this happened

0:24:10.520 --> 0:24:11.880
<v Speaker 1>to one of my friends before

0:24:12.109 --> 0:24:16.650
<v Speaker 1>and she actually went ahead to block or whoever this person,

0:24:16.819 --> 0:24:20.140
<v Speaker 1>but she did contact the person and tell that person like, hey, like,

0:24:20.150 --> 0:24:22.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, I think our friendship runs much deeper than

0:24:22.729 --> 0:24:26.250
<v Speaker 1>social media. So, just ignore the fact that I've had

0:24:26.260 --> 0:24:30.229
<v Speaker 1>to block you or unfollow you whatever and just move on. Like, because,

0:24:30.420 --> 0:24:32.479
<v Speaker 1>you know, we are close enough to know that I

0:24:32.489 --> 0:24:34.149
<v Speaker 1>don't need to know what you're doing on

0:24:34.630 --> 0:24:37.280
<v Speaker 1>or Tik Tok or whatever. Yeah. So, that's, that was

0:24:37.290 --> 0:24:39.569
<v Speaker 1>the way that she dealt with it. I can imagine. Like,

0:24:39.579 --> 0:24:42.188
<v Speaker 1>the boyfriend's, like, block all these guys are like, I'm

0:24:42.199 --> 0:24:45.430
<v Speaker 1>not comfortable with you following these guys and then she

0:24:45.439 --> 0:24:48.650
<v Speaker 1>blocks them, but then she takes them like behind the scene.

0:24:48.660 --> 0:24:52.119
<v Speaker 1>Like actually my boy, we do it like that's bad

0:24:52.130 --> 0:24:54.390
<v Speaker 1>as well. You know what I mean? That really like

0:24:54.400 --> 0:24:57.459
<v Speaker 1>bad on the partner. But if you make it your

0:24:57.469 --> 0:24:58.469
<v Speaker 1>own decision,

0:24:58.880 --> 0:25:02.260
<v Speaker 1>like I chose to do this because I understand why

0:25:02.270 --> 0:25:05.479
<v Speaker 1>my partner might have reasons for feeling uncomfortable. I don't know,

0:25:05.540 --> 0:25:09.310
<v Speaker 1>but it's really once again, situation based situation, speaking of

0:25:09.319 --> 0:25:11.688
<v Speaker 1>situation based, I've got a couple of interesting stories that

0:25:11.699 --> 0:25:15.630
<v Speaker 1>we picked out to see how you would react to

0:25:15.640 --> 0:25:18.359
<v Speaker 1>it and how you feel about these situations. Ok? And

0:25:18.369 --> 0:25:22.300
<v Speaker 1>the very first one, interestingly, I actually have a close

0:25:22.310 --> 0:25:24.589
<v Speaker 1>friend that this exact situation happened to him.

0:25:24.880 --> 0:25:28.099
<v Speaker 1>It's about gift buying. Ok? I don't know if you've

0:25:28.109 --> 0:25:33.020
<v Speaker 1>exchanged gifts with each other a lot or Christmas. Ok.

0:25:33.510 --> 0:25:35.619
<v Speaker 1>So think about the gifts that you guys have exchanged.

0:25:35.979 --> 0:25:38.459
<v Speaker 1>Am I the asshole for purchasing my guy friend? His

0:25:38.469 --> 0:25:43.339
<v Speaker 1>dream birthday present and outshining his girlfriend in the process.

0:25:43.359 --> 0:25:45.660
<v Speaker 1>My guy friend, Tom has been one of my best

0:25:45.670 --> 0:25:48.750
<v Speaker 1>friends since college when our mid twenties now and are

0:25:48.760 --> 0:25:52.500
<v Speaker 1>both currently in committed relationships with long term partners.

0:25:52.810 --> 0:25:55.670
<v Speaker 1>I've never had feelings for Tom and he's never had

0:25:55.680 --> 0:25:59.939
<v Speaker 1>feelings for me either. Ok. Um, since college he's been

0:25:59.949 --> 0:26:02.930
<v Speaker 1>a huge watch fanatic and he was showing me a

0:26:02.939 --> 0:26:06.579
<v Speaker 1>stunning vintage watch and made a side comment. If he

0:26:06.589 --> 0:26:10.349
<v Speaker 1>could have it, he would die of happiness. Coincidentally, I

0:26:10.359 --> 0:26:13.629
<v Speaker 1>actually saw the watch. It was very expensive. Not gonna lie.

0:26:13.640 --> 0:26:17.639
<v Speaker 1>It was over $2000 and then their mid twenties, think

0:26:17.650 --> 0:26:18.349
<v Speaker 1>about that. Ok,

0:26:18.989 --> 0:26:23.229
<v Speaker 1>I decided to get it for his 25th birthday because

0:26:23.239 --> 0:26:26.829
<v Speaker 1>it was 25th birthday and it was $2500. So I

0:26:26.839 --> 0:26:27.969
<v Speaker 1>saw it as fate.

0:26:28.869 --> 0:26:31.060
<v Speaker 1>I do pretty well. So it was something that I

0:26:31.069 --> 0:26:33.420
<v Speaker 1>felt I could personally afford and wanted to buy for

0:26:33.430 --> 0:26:35.260
<v Speaker 1>him knowing how happy he would be.

0:26:36.109 --> 0:26:39.030
<v Speaker 1>However, on the actual birthday, they all opened up the

0:26:39.040 --> 0:26:42.130
<v Speaker 1>gifts and his girlfriend ends up going first and she

0:26:42.140 --> 0:26:44.890
<v Speaker 1>got him a really nice sweater that she crocheted for

0:26:44.900 --> 0:26:47.410
<v Speaker 1>him and a book that he's been wanting, which I

0:26:47.420 --> 0:26:50.709
<v Speaker 1>thought was very thoughtful and lovely. Last of all was

0:26:50.719 --> 0:26:53.560
<v Speaker 1>my gift when he opened it and saw what it was.

0:26:53.569 --> 0:26:57.329
<v Speaker 1>He screamed, jumped over a bunch of people and super

0:26:57.339 --> 0:26:59.119
<v Speaker 1>squeezed me in a huge bear. Hug.

0:26:59.500 --> 0:27:01.760
<v Speaker 1>He also said it was the best gift he has

0:27:01.770 --> 0:27:05.719
<v Speaker 1>ever received. And this whole time his girlfriend was staying

0:27:05.729 --> 0:27:08.920
<v Speaker 1>very quiet. The next day I got a text essentially

0:27:08.930 --> 0:27:11.449
<v Speaker 1>from his girlfriend saying that although it was a very

0:27:11.459 --> 0:27:13.800
<v Speaker 1>thoughtful gift, she felt that it crossed the line and

0:27:13.810 --> 0:27:16.800
<v Speaker 1>it was lacking awareness. What do you guys feel?

0:27:17.219 --> 0:27:20.180
<v Speaker 1>I love you. But I would never spend 2005

0:27:24.839 --> 0:27:25.290
<v Speaker 2>and you're like,

0:27:25.319 --> 0:27:31.020
<v Speaker 1>no, no, no, not $2500. Like, let's say we have 250. Yeah. Yeah.

0:27:31.390 --> 0:27:36.739
<v Speaker 1>Bring it down like 250 maybe two, maybe $2.50. I

0:27:36.750 --> 0:27:40.469
<v Speaker 1>buy you a coffee from the c I think I

0:27:40.489 --> 0:27:42.979
<v Speaker 1>find it so crazy. No, there's no way she has

0:27:42.989 --> 0:27:44.050
<v Speaker 1>no feelings for the guy,

0:27:44.469 --> 0:27:48.020
<v Speaker 1>right? Ok. Why would you spend 2.5 K? But she's

0:27:48.030 --> 0:27:50.599
<v Speaker 1>in a committed relationship too? Why wouldn't you want to

0:27:50.609 --> 0:27:53.060
<v Speaker 1>spend that 2500 on your? Ok. But what if you

0:27:53.069 --> 0:27:53.159
<v Speaker 1>have

0:27:53.170 --> 0:27:54.380
<v Speaker 2>crazy money? Yeah.

0:27:54.390 --> 0:27:57.520
<v Speaker 1>Ok. So I was thinking about that because this same

0:27:57.530 --> 0:28:00.599
<v Speaker 1>similar situation happened to a close friend of mine. He

0:28:00.609 --> 0:28:04.239
<v Speaker 1>was in a very committed relationship with this girl and

0:28:04.250 --> 0:28:07.239
<v Speaker 1>his friend, very new friend in his life, like less

0:28:07.250 --> 0:28:10.079
<v Speaker 1>than six months, kind of friend. But two circumstances they've

0:28:10.089 --> 0:28:11.410
<v Speaker 1>had to get closer,

0:28:11.900 --> 0:28:15.829
<v Speaker 1>got him like a extravagant gift. But it was something

0:28:15.839 --> 0:28:20.149
<v Speaker 1>that he wanted related to gaming. Ok. And his partner,

0:28:20.160 --> 0:28:22.589
<v Speaker 1>his girlfriend back then. Apparently was trying to save up

0:28:22.599 --> 0:28:25.910
<v Speaker 1>to buy it, but that new friend kind of bought

0:28:25.920 --> 0:28:28.629
<v Speaker 1>it for him instead. Good for her then. And she

0:28:28.640 --> 0:28:32.020
<v Speaker 1>was so, I mean that the girlfriend was really unhappy

0:28:32.030 --> 0:28:34.900
<v Speaker 1>about it and felt like it was crossing the line.

0:28:35.160 --> 0:28:37.260
<v Speaker 1>That's tough. So however

0:28:38.209 --> 0:28:41.069
<v Speaker 1>back to it, maybe the person has crazy money and

0:28:41.079 --> 0:28:44.469
<v Speaker 1>then to that person 2005 may not mean anything

0:28:45.050 --> 0:28:48.290
<v Speaker 2>to me. I think this is all about like, obviously

0:28:48.300 --> 0:28:51.300
<v Speaker 2>this one event didn't trigger the tension, right? It could

0:28:51.310 --> 0:28:54.660
<v Speaker 2>be a serious, like, undergirding, the tension is already building

0:28:54.670 --> 0:28:55.920
<v Speaker 2>and stuff like that. I feel like if I had

0:28:55.930 --> 0:28:56.589
<v Speaker 2>crazy money,

0:28:56.930 --> 0:28:59.660
<v Speaker 2>I like, I buy something. I'm like, bro, you get

0:28:59.670 --> 0:29:02.750
<v Speaker 2>stuff as well. It's a package deal. Like this is

0:29:02.829 --> 0:29:04.640
<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying, like in theory, it's like you manage

0:29:04.650 --> 0:29:07.569
<v Speaker 2>the friendship in a way that doesn't seem like it's exclusive.

0:29:07.699 --> 0:29:10.689
<v Speaker 2>It's together like you're also my friend. I just wanna, yeah,

0:29:10.709 --> 0:29:13.630
<v Speaker 1>you're right. So I think what I noticed in my friends,

0:29:13.640 --> 0:29:16.000
<v Speaker 1>sometimes they will buy a gift that my partner and

0:29:16.010 --> 0:29:18.599
<v Speaker 1>I can use or can share. So then it doesn't

0:29:18.609 --> 0:29:19.219
<v Speaker 1>seem so like

0:29:19.326 --> 0:29:22.565
<v Speaker 1>that'd be nice. Yeah. Yeah. But no, none of my

0:29:22.576 --> 0:29:27.456
<v Speaker 1>friends have ever spent $2500. Ever. I don't think ever.

0:29:27.465 --> 0:29:30.286
<v Speaker 1>I cannot come. Yeah. But I think it's fair that

0:29:30.296 --> 0:29:33.316
<v Speaker 1>the girlfriend was upset, right? But sometimes you just, I

0:29:33.326 --> 0:29:36.095
<v Speaker 1>guess the girlfriend should understand or like, should have this

0:29:36.105 --> 0:29:38.576
<v Speaker 1>prior knowledge. Maybe the guy has crazy money. So it

0:29:38.586 --> 0:29:40.546
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't be, or the girl has crazy money. So it

0:29:40.556 --> 0:29:41.706
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't be so crazy

0:29:42.092 --> 0:29:45.271
<v Speaker 1>for her to like it's relative. Ok, hold on. But

0:29:45.281 --> 0:29:48.041
<v Speaker 1>if I were the, in that situation, if I were

0:29:48.052 --> 0:29:50.832
<v Speaker 1>the girl that wanted to spend 2.5 on the watch,

0:29:51.082 --> 0:29:53.982
<v Speaker 1>I would, I might talk to, I might tell a

0:29:54.001 --> 0:29:56.562
<v Speaker 1>girlfriend first and I'd be like, hey, I'm to get this.

0:29:56.812 --> 0:29:58.761
<v Speaker 1>Do you want to get, like, chip in or get

0:29:58.771 --> 0:30:00.291
<v Speaker 1>it together? I don't know. That would be great to

0:30:00.302 --> 0:30:03.141
<v Speaker 1>be like, less awkward. Right. And they opened it in

0:30:03.151 --> 0:30:04.151
<v Speaker 1>front of everyone.

0:30:05.130 --> 0:30:07.260
<v Speaker 2>And also if the girlfriend didn't know that he really

0:30:07.270 --> 0:30:09.310
<v Speaker 2>wanted that watch even more awkward because it's like, I

0:30:09.319 --> 0:30:12.619
<v Speaker 2>don't even know what my boyfriend wants, that kind of thing. Exactly.

0:30:12.800 --> 0:30:16.109
<v Speaker 1>It's awkward all around. I have to say. Now the

0:30:16.119 --> 0:30:19.060
<v Speaker 1>next one is here we go. Am I the asshole

0:30:19.069 --> 0:30:22.280
<v Speaker 1>for telling my boyfriend and his female best friend to

0:30:22.290 --> 0:30:27.739
<v Speaker 1>hang out less frequently? My extroverted boyfriend and his best

0:30:27.750 --> 0:30:30.939
<v Speaker 1>friend have been friends years before I had met him.

0:30:31.400 --> 0:30:34.859
<v Speaker 1>They've always been platonically close and actually the girl and

0:30:34.869 --> 0:30:37.640
<v Speaker 1>I were roommates for three months when my boyfriend was away.

0:30:38.060 --> 0:30:40.949
<v Speaker 1>Lady has been spending his Saturday afternoons having brunch with

0:30:40.959 --> 0:30:43.910
<v Speaker 1>her four Saturdays in a row. Now they catch up

0:30:43.920 --> 0:30:46.010
<v Speaker 1>and he tells her things that he can't tell me

0:30:46.020 --> 0:30:48.709
<v Speaker 1>because he says I sound judgy, which could be true.

0:30:49.579 --> 0:30:51.479
<v Speaker 1>My boyfriend and I have been living together for two

0:30:51.489 --> 0:30:53.890
<v Speaker 1>years now and our weekday nights are just dinner and TV.

0:30:53.900 --> 0:30:56.439
<v Speaker 1>Since we're too tired from our daytime jobs, we barely

0:30:56.449 --> 0:31:00.109
<v Speaker 1>have any daytime activities because after their Saturday brunch, my

0:31:00.119 --> 0:31:02.099
<v Speaker 1>boyfriend and I go out with friends in the evening

0:31:02.109 --> 0:31:05.010
<v Speaker 1>and by the time it's Sunday we probably usually have

0:31:05.020 --> 0:31:06.589
<v Speaker 1>a hangover or we're doing chores.

0:31:07.000 --> 0:31:09.819
<v Speaker 1>I'm also uncomfortable with them having so many pictures together

0:31:09.829 --> 0:31:12.619
<v Speaker 1>of arms around the shoulder or side hugs. I've said

0:31:12.630 --> 0:31:14.339
<v Speaker 1>before that I don't want to see him post that

0:31:14.349 --> 0:31:16.750
<v Speaker 1>out of respect for me. He assured me that they

0:31:16.760 --> 0:31:19.050
<v Speaker 1>are more like siblings and he would never be attracted

0:31:19.060 --> 0:31:20.260
<v Speaker 1>to her in a romantic way.

0:31:20.790 --> 0:31:22.560
<v Speaker 1>I can see that they're not flirty and I believe

0:31:22.569 --> 0:31:24.829
<v Speaker 1>that they're platonic. I found out from a friend that

0:31:24.839 --> 0:31:27.650
<v Speaker 1>he has posted a side hug picture that he hid

0:31:27.660 --> 0:31:31.640
<v Speaker 1>from me from viewing it. Now, I've shown my jealousy

0:31:31.650 --> 0:31:33.930
<v Speaker 1>about this to my boyfriend and he says he's tired

0:31:33.939 --> 0:31:37.280
<v Speaker 1>of the same argument and having to reassure me, but

0:31:37.290 --> 0:31:39.800
<v Speaker 1>it's important to know that my insecurity also comes from

0:31:39.810 --> 0:31:42.869
<v Speaker 1>knowing that my friend broke up with his girlfriend of

0:31:42.880 --> 0:31:46.209
<v Speaker 1>two years and after three months is now together with

0:31:46.219 --> 0:31:48.739
<v Speaker 1>his female best friend. So what do you guys think

0:31:49.270 --> 0:31:51.349
<v Speaker 1>about a couple things to unpack?

0:31:51.890 --> 0:31:54.229
<v Speaker 2>I would never even like, I don't know what we

0:31:54.239 --> 0:31:55.250
<v Speaker 2>take what is like that and like,

0:31:56.050 --> 0:31:58.880
<v Speaker 1>I guess maybe like that I like, but it wouldn't

0:31:58.890 --> 0:31:59.869
<v Speaker 1>be like, oh my God.

0:31:59.880 --> 0:32:01.910
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah. And for the fact that he had the

0:32:01.920 --> 0:32:02.359
<v Speaker 2>photos

0:32:02.969 --> 0:32:05.380
<v Speaker 1>that's really bad. If you have nothing to hide, then

0:32:05.390 --> 0:32:08.359
<v Speaker 1>you should, maybe he's just tired of having the same argument,

0:32:08.449 --> 0:32:11.400
<v Speaker 1>but it's so bad. It's still such a bad look.

0:32:11.410 --> 0:32:13.719
<v Speaker 1>You can't do that. And you know what, we always

0:32:13.829 --> 0:32:21.170
<v Speaker 1>find out female interaction. If we want to find out

0:32:21.180 --> 0:32:24.738
<v Speaker 1>something we will. Yeah. Just, just give us 10 minutes.

0:32:25.890 --> 0:32:29.569
<v Speaker 1>We're on it. So in this case, then do you

0:32:29.579 --> 0:32:33.209
<v Speaker 1>think that her feelings are valid or is she projecting

0:32:33.219 --> 0:32:36.250
<v Speaker 1>like what she's seeing in other situations? And she's wondering

0:32:36.260 --> 0:32:37.609
<v Speaker 1>whether it could be the same

0:32:37.969 --> 0:32:40.099
<v Speaker 1>in her situation? Why are they going out for brunch

0:32:40.109 --> 0:32:43.949
<v Speaker 1>without her though? Yeah. Yeah. So that's like, that's so weird.

0:32:43.959 --> 0:32:47.010
<v Speaker 1>You have a girlfriend? You're living like the consecutive weekend? Yeah.

0:32:47.020 --> 0:32:50.599
<v Speaker 1>That's so weird. I would be like, oh, I'm going

0:32:50.609 --> 0:32:53.959
<v Speaker 1>out with her, come with like I would even be like,

0:32:53.969 --> 0:32:56.310
<v Speaker 1>do you want to come? I'll be like, come with. Yeah.

0:32:56.489 --> 0:32:59.540
<v Speaker 2>And I guess the added context that we have while

0:32:59.550 --> 0:33:02.319
<v Speaker 2>we were in school was that we would meet and

0:33:02.329 --> 0:33:03.739
<v Speaker 2>then we would go to study or like there was

0:33:03.750 --> 0:33:05.349
<v Speaker 2>a reason to meet. So I think now that we

0:33:05.359 --> 0:33:06.140
<v Speaker 2>are out of school.

0:33:06.479 --> 0:33:09.329
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, completely. Like we would invite, you know, it's an

0:33:09.339 --> 0:33:11.550
<v Speaker 2>open invite. Like if we were to hang out. It's like,

0:33:11.560 --> 0:33:14.099
<v Speaker 1>always an open invite and I don't think we've ever

0:33:14.109 --> 0:33:16.680
<v Speaker 1>hung out and been like, oh, don't I want to

0:33:16.689 --> 0:33:20.699
<v Speaker 1>just hang out with her. Yeah. That's 11. No, actually,

0:33:20.709 --> 0:33:24.339
<v Speaker 1>sometimes I've had situations where one of my close male

0:33:24.349 --> 0:33:26.599
<v Speaker 1>friends is, like, I actually just want to hang out

0:33:26.609 --> 0:33:29.219
<v Speaker 1>and talk to you one on one because he has

0:33:29.229 --> 0:33:32.109
<v Speaker 1>something that he wants to share or talk about. Maybe

0:33:32.119 --> 0:33:33.339
<v Speaker 1>that he doesn't want

0:33:33.829 --> 0:33:36.199
<v Speaker 1>my partner to know about them. Not that there's anything

0:33:36.209 --> 0:33:39.290
<v Speaker 1>got to do with him at all. That's fair. That's fair. Yeah,

0:33:39.420 --> 0:33:42.709
<v Speaker 1>that's ok. That's fair. If you're like, my friend wants

0:33:42.719 --> 0:33:45.410
<v Speaker 1>to tell me something about it, something private, then that's fine.

0:33:45.420 --> 0:33:46.680
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't be like, for

0:33:46.689 --> 0:33:49.250
<v Speaker 2>example, like if, say, like I had some family issues

0:33:49.260 --> 0:33:51.750
<v Speaker 2>that I need to work out and about and for

0:33:51.760 --> 0:33:53.689
<v Speaker 2>if the situation is that I'm not too close with

0:33:53.699 --> 0:33:55.520
<v Speaker 2>her boyfriend, then, you know.

0:33:55.640 --> 0:33:58.410
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah. Well, I, ok, so I have a story

0:33:58.420 --> 0:34:01.489
<v Speaker 1>to share. I came into this situation before

0:34:01.900 --> 0:34:05.449
<v Speaker 1>it was a complete misunderstanding. But I used to have

0:34:05.459 --> 0:34:07.910
<v Speaker 1>this very close guy friend that I got to know

0:34:07.920 --> 0:34:11.250
<v Speaker 1>from like partying and stuff. Like we didn't grow up together. Nothing,

0:34:11.260 --> 0:34:13.169
<v Speaker 1>not from school or whatever, but we just kind of

0:34:13.179 --> 0:34:17.350
<v Speaker 1>clicked and got to know each other. And at that

0:34:17.360 --> 0:34:21.489
<v Speaker 1>time he was having some problems with his then girlfriend

0:34:21.919 --> 0:34:25.300
<v Speaker 1>and he would confide in me about it because he

0:34:25.310 --> 0:34:27.840
<v Speaker 1>couldn't confide anyone else in his friend group because that

0:34:27.850 --> 0:34:29.709
<v Speaker 1>girl is in the friend group as well.

0:34:30.148 --> 0:34:31.769
<v Speaker 1>So the only other person he could talk to about

0:34:31.779 --> 0:34:33.688
<v Speaker 1>it and he wanted a female perspective was me.

0:34:34.629 --> 0:34:38.549
<v Speaker 1>So at the time I was dating this guy that

0:34:38.560 --> 0:34:42.409
<v Speaker 1>was a little insecure about certain things. But I think

0:34:42.419 --> 0:34:45.129
<v Speaker 1>it was, it was, it was a little odd because

0:34:45.139 --> 0:34:47.428
<v Speaker 1>one of the nights he said, hey, I really need

0:34:47.439 --> 0:34:49.908
<v Speaker 1>to chat. Can we go for dinner? You know? So

0:34:49.919 --> 0:34:53.090
<v Speaker 1>I said, ok, we went out chatted and I told

0:34:53.100 --> 0:34:54.000
<v Speaker 1>my partner about it.

0:34:54.708 --> 0:34:57.108
<v Speaker 1>But that very night I ended up staying out till

0:34:57.118 --> 0:35:00.107
<v Speaker 1>like 2:03 a.m. just spontaneous night kind of thing. The

0:35:00.118 --> 0:35:03.089
<v Speaker 1>very next day he texted me and said telegram secret

0:35:03.099 --> 0:35:05.589
<v Speaker 1>Chat now and it was on whatsapp. I know it

0:35:05.599 --> 0:35:07.938
<v Speaker 1>sounds a bit s right. But he was basically telling

0:35:07.948 --> 0:35:11.058
<v Speaker 1>me an update about the girl situation that he had.

0:35:11.300 --> 0:35:14.639
<v Speaker 1>Unfortunately, my partner saw everything on my phone like he

0:35:14.649 --> 0:35:18.629
<v Speaker 1>read everything on my phone. Like he's like he looked into, yeah, ok.

0:35:18.639 --> 0:35:21.408
<v Speaker 1>He logged into my phone. But because he's always not,

0:35:21.419 --> 0:35:23.830
<v Speaker 1>apparently I found out later. He's never been a fan

0:35:23.840 --> 0:35:26.600
<v Speaker 1>of that guy and he always felt like s about

0:35:26.610 --> 0:35:29.399
<v Speaker 1>this guy. So he longed my phone, read it and

0:35:29.409 --> 0:35:32.350
<v Speaker 1>he saw the messages like, oh no telegraph secret chat

0:35:32.360 --> 0:35:34.610
<v Speaker 1>now and all that. It just looks so bad. It

0:35:34.620 --> 0:35:35.679
<v Speaker 1>looks so bad.

0:35:36.090 --> 0:35:39.239
<v Speaker 1>But in actual fact, like the secret chat, which I

0:35:39.250 --> 0:35:42.129
<v Speaker 1>wish wasn't a self, there wasn't a self destruct timer

0:35:42.709 --> 0:35:44.479
<v Speaker 1>because there was a self destruct timer. And then it

0:35:44.489 --> 0:35:47.340
<v Speaker 1>looked even worse. So he didn't even read the, he

0:35:47.350 --> 0:35:51.509
<v Speaker 1>even read the context, but it just looked very bad. Yeah.

0:35:52.000 --> 0:35:57.149
<v Speaker 1>And regardless it ended very badly. So I just find

0:35:57.159 --> 0:36:00.260
<v Speaker 1>it so crazy when someone looks into your phone, that's

0:36:00.270 --> 0:36:03.000
<v Speaker 1>such a crazy thing. I know. I know. But I

0:36:03.010 --> 0:36:05.330
<v Speaker 1>guess maybe if you have a gut feeling or you feel,

0:36:05.340 --> 0:36:07.870
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Not that it's justified. But if you want,

0:36:08.050 --> 0:36:10.949
<v Speaker 1>look into your partner's phone, you have to be like 100%.

0:36:11.050 --> 0:36:14.709
<v Speaker 1>Your partner is cheating on you. Like doing something 100%

0:36:14.810 --> 0:36:18.169
<v Speaker 1>ever since that incident. I was like, wow, I cannot

0:36:18.179 --> 0:36:21.750
<v Speaker 1>have these very suspicious. I mean, look, if I give

0:36:21.760 --> 0:36:24.729
<v Speaker 1>my partner a reason to feel this way, I also

0:36:24.739 --> 0:36:28.370
<v Speaker 1>feel that maybe I could have done something better. Ok.

0:36:28.379 --> 0:36:30.949
<v Speaker 1>So this is the last scenario. Tell me what you think.

0:36:31.100 --> 0:36:34.509
<v Speaker 1>Am I the asshole for not wanting my fiance's best

0:36:34.520 --> 0:36:35.070
<v Speaker 1>friend

0:36:35.360 --> 0:36:39.239
<v Speaker 1>to be his best man at our wedding. My fiance

0:36:39.250 --> 0:36:42.149
<v Speaker 1>and I recently got engaged amongst a small circle of

0:36:42.159 --> 0:36:45.729
<v Speaker 1>close friends and family. His best friend said something along

0:36:45.739 --> 0:36:47.469
<v Speaker 1>the lines of I have to make time in my

0:36:47.479 --> 0:36:50.439
<v Speaker 1>schedule to be a best man and this hasn't really

0:36:50.449 --> 0:36:54.000
<v Speaker 1>left my mind since my issue is the following my

0:36:54.010 --> 0:36:55.899
<v Speaker 1>fiance is bisexual.

0:36:56.560 --> 0:36:59.540
<v Speaker 1>Now, these two friends, they weren't dating or romantically involved,

0:36:59.550 --> 0:37:04.020
<v Speaker 1>but they've had sex though. They've not, since before we met.

0:37:04.030 --> 0:37:06.500
<v Speaker 1>I'm not jealous of their friendship and I normally get

0:37:06.510 --> 0:37:09.649
<v Speaker 1>along fine with his best friend. However, him having someone

0:37:09.659 --> 0:37:12.760
<v Speaker 1>at the wedding, a man no less that he slept with,

0:37:12.770 --> 0:37:15.860
<v Speaker 1>makes me feel uneasy. I really don't know if I'm

0:37:15.870 --> 0:37:18.750
<v Speaker 1>comfortable with him attending. Much less stand up there with

0:37:18.760 --> 0:37:22.399
<v Speaker 1>us as we get married. Ok. Friends. What do we

0:37:22.409 --> 0:37:24.100
<v Speaker 2>think is basically, like, having

0:37:24.570 --> 0:37:26.750
<v Speaker 2>and your partners FWB

0:37:26.760 --> 0:37:30.199
<v Speaker 1>the b, the, like, made of honor or something? Ok. Wow.

0:37:30.399 --> 0:37:34.949
<v Speaker 1>There's a lot, there's a lot that, I don't know

0:37:34.959 --> 0:37:38.239
<v Speaker 1>if I would be, I don't know, I wouldn't be

0:37:38.250 --> 0:37:41.009
<v Speaker 1>comfortable now, there would be something I would be very

0:37:41.020 --> 0:37:41.669
<v Speaker 1>uncomfortable

0:37:41.679 --> 0:37:42.989
<v Speaker 2>with. Yeah. I think

0:37:43.479 --> 0:37:46.320
<v Speaker 2>I always say this but it's like, it depends on

0:37:46.330 --> 0:37:50.529
<v Speaker 2>their relationship, like, at that point. But also, you know what? Uncomfortable?

0:37:50.570 --> 0:37:54.560
<v Speaker 2>So they had. No, no, no, no. Yeah. Yeah. Like,

0:37:54.570 --> 0:37:56.459
<v Speaker 1>it's just so bad. Like, I don't

0:37:56.469 --> 0:37:58.340
<v Speaker 2>know. It makes

0:37:58.350 --> 0:38:04.590
<v Speaker 1>me, it makes you uncomfortable. Right. Yeah, I, I agree. I, 100% agree.

0:38:04.600 --> 0:38:04.860
<v Speaker 1>But

0:38:05.159 --> 0:38:08.259
<v Speaker 1>I think when it comes to having, like, an intimate

0:38:08.270 --> 0:38:11.820
<v Speaker 1>encounter before or sexual relationship in the past, do you

0:38:11.830 --> 0:38:17.100
<v Speaker 1>maintain friendships with any one of these people in your life? No, never. No.

0:38:17.110 --> 0:38:18.739
<v Speaker 1>It's odd you feel, yeah.

0:38:18.810 --> 0:38:23.699
<v Speaker 2>It's either like after that you become, like, romantically involved or, like,

0:38:24.050 --> 0:38:28.179
<v Speaker 2>by a bit awkward to be, like, just friends. Yeah. I,

0:38:28.189 --> 0:38:31.449
<v Speaker 1>I don't think we gonna bring this up. Like, I

0:38:31.459 --> 0:38:33.699
<v Speaker 1>don't think you can be friends with your ex.

0:38:34.689 --> 0:38:41.178
<v Speaker 1>Ok. This is another topic all together, I think. Like,

0:38:41.189 --> 0:38:45.020
<v Speaker 1>it's so, it's just so much, there was a point

0:38:45.030 --> 0:38:48.219
<v Speaker 1>in your life where that person was like, someone special

0:38:48.360 --> 0:38:51.810
<v Speaker 1>and then to bring that now, like, so it is

0:38:51.989 --> 0:38:56.080
<v Speaker 1>gonna be so, it's too, it's too much. Yeah. Yeah.

0:38:56.090 --> 0:38:58.280
<v Speaker 1>Actually come to think of it. I don't,

0:38:58.719 --> 0:39:02.469
<v Speaker 1>I don't know anyone that I've, you know, slept with

0:39:02.479 --> 0:39:05.939
<v Speaker 1>or anything that's in my inner circle of friends. Right. No,

0:39:06.449 --> 0:39:07.560
<v Speaker 1>not at all, actually.

0:39:07.620 --> 0:39:10.310
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah. I think the chemical reaction in the brain

0:39:10.320 --> 0:39:10.929
<v Speaker 2>that happens.

0:39:12.189 --> 0:39:14.689
<v Speaker 1>But do you think friends can be platonic after they've

0:39:15.110 --> 0:39:19.149
<v Speaker 1>done something like that? I never thought they could be, like,

0:39:19.159 --> 0:39:20.790
<v Speaker 1>at the same time, like, you can't be friends with

0:39:20.800 --> 0:39:23.638
<v Speaker 1>your ex. But at the same time I do acknowledge

0:39:23.649 --> 0:39:27.649
<v Speaker 1>I have a friend who's, who had a really close,

0:39:27.659 --> 0:39:31.729
<v Speaker 1>was in a relationship for a year and then she's

0:39:31.739 --> 0:39:33.649
<v Speaker 1>really close with him now as a friend, but it's

0:39:33.659 --> 0:39:36.388
<v Speaker 1>so platonic and I was like, how do you do that?

0:39:36.399 --> 0:39:38.800
<v Speaker 1>But then I see the relationship and I was like, wow,

0:39:38.810 --> 0:39:42.649
<v Speaker 1>that's actually really platonic. Or maybe it's like she's seen everything.

0:39:43.360 --> 0:39:45.449
<v Speaker 1>I mean, she's experienced it and she's like, oh, this

0:39:45.459 --> 0:39:47.360
<v Speaker 1>is definitely not what I want. She got

0:39:47.370 --> 0:39:49.350
<v Speaker 2>the somewhere she got the e

0:39:49.500 --> 0:39:53.459
<v Speaker 1>exactly. Could be. So, I'm like, that's actually also

0:39:54.770 --> 0:39:57.040
<v Speaker 2>your friends. I think we, we giving each other the

0:39:57.060 --> 0:39:57.750
<v Speaker 2>egg also.

0:39:59.149 --> 0:39:59.689
<v Speaker 1>I need to know.

0:39:59.760 --> 0:39:59.780
<v Speaker 1>So,

0:40:01.729 --> 0:40:04.449
<v Speaker 2>what is, what is the, I should know about this.

0:40:04.510 --> 0:40:04.840
<v Speaker 2>I know. I don't

0:40:06.520 --> 0:40:09.320
<v Speaker 1>want to say any eggs because I have so many. Oh,

0:40:09.330 --> 0:40:13.370
<v Speaker 1>my God, because you're my friend. I mean, obviously like

0:40:13.550 --> 0:40:15.520
<v Speaker 1>your friends give you an egg. That's why you're not

0:40:15.750 --> 0:40:16.060
<v Speaker 1>your friend.

0:40:17.139 --> 0:40:18.138
<v Speaker 1>You know, your friends are like

0:40:18.370 --> 0:40:21.879
<v Speaker 2>what I want to be in the market. Your friends,

0:40:23.010 --> 0:40:23.179
<v Speaker 2>your

0:40:23.239 --> 0:40:27.370
<v Speaker 1>friends, your friends are never like that kind of sexy

0:40:27.379 --> 0:40:29.850
<v Speaker 1>to you. No, no, that's why they're friends.

0:40:30.489 --> 0:40:32.709
<v Speaker 2>But she replied my story yesterday and she was like,

0:40:32.719 --> 0:40:34.050
<v Speaker 2>oh hello? Oh

0:40:34.090 --> 0:40:34.989
<v Speaker 1>my God.

0:40:35.320 --> 0:40:37.080
<v Speaker 2>I replied, I was like, we have to keep it

0:40:37.090 --> 0:40:38.530
<v Speaker 2>platonic for the podcast.

0:40:40.360 --> 0:40:44.939
<v Speaker 1>Now we need screenshots of hyping you up. OK? So

0:40:44.949 --> 0:40:47.570
<v Speaker 1>it's the hype. It's not the, I actually think that

0:40:47.580 --> 0:40:52.149
<v Speaker 1>you're with me as well if you're dressed well, I'm like, hey, OK,

0:40:52.159 --> 0:40:54.129
<v Speaker 1>wait girls do that with each other though. That's the thing.

0:40:54.479 --> 0:40:57.100
<v Speaker 1>So we would always be like, you know, girls, girls,

0:40:57.110 --> 0:40:59.879
<v Speaker 1>I realize we always like you are so hot today.

0:40:59.889 --> 0:41:01.000
<v Speaker 1>You are doing Instagram

0:41:01.010 --> 0:41:03.870
<v Speaker 2>comments go crazy when I post nothing. It's like,

0:41:09.669 --> 0:41:10.739
<v Speaker 1>sorry, I can't show it.

0:41:12.639 --> 0:41:15.139
<v Speaker 1>No, II, I probably hype you up in your comment

0:41:15.149 --> 0:41:15.649
<v Speaker 1>section

0:41:16.419 --> 0:41:18.879
<v Speaker 2>for girls in the comment section. Always go crazy.

0:41:18.889 --> 0:41:21.229
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. No, for sure. Like because we want to show

0:41:21.239 --> 0:41:23.009
<v Speaker 1>love and support, you know, it could be

0:41:23.020 --> 0:41:24.770
<v Speaker 2>a picture of this guy and she's like, and they'll

0:41:24.780 --> 0:41:25.370
<v Speaker 2>be like, photography.

0:41:27.199 --> 0:41:29.069
<v Speaker 1>I popped on with that.

0:41:31.149 --> 0:41:33.589
<v Speaker 1>Ok. So to wrap it all up, do you then

0:41:33.600 --> 0:41:39.459
<v Speaker 1>feel that your friendship should change with relationships, I guess? No. Right. No.

0:41:39.669 --> 0:41:43.750
<v Speaker 1>Or a little bit like whenever someone new enters your life,

0:41:43.760 --> 0:41:46.989
<v Speaker 1>your dynamics gonna change, there will be adjustments, there will

0:41:47.000 --> 0:41:53.989
<v Speaker 1>be a adjustments and judgments, judgments, adjustment and sometimes like,

0:41:54.459 --> 0:41:56.729
<v Speaker 1>you know, you lose friends along the way. I think

0:41:56.739 --> 0:42:01.459
<v Speaker 1>it's so normal to lose friends and gain more friends. Yeah. Yeah.

0:42:01.469 --> 0:42:04.299
<v Speaker 2>It's almost like, I think life is never like that. Right.

0:42:04.500 --> 0:42:06.100
<v Speaker 2>You're not going to be the same friends that you

0:42:06.110 --> 0:42:08.969
<v Speaker 2>had in like preschool and stuff. It's always changing. So

0:42:08.979 --> 0:42:12.569
<v Speaker 2>I think as you grow older also, like the situation

0:42:12.580 --> 0:42:15.530
<v Speaker 2>also changes also. Now we're not in school. So actually

0:42:15.540 --> 0:42:18.120
<v Speaker 2>we see each other less often. Yeah. So then,

0:42:18.510 --> 0:42:22.040
<v Speaker 2>yeah, you know, and then our friendship also changes, but

0:42:22.050 --> 0:42:23.699
<v Speaker 2>I think it's just about like going through it and

0:42:23.709 --> 0:42:26.810
<v Speaker 2>not like trying to force anything also, whatever feels natural

0:42:27.110 --> 0:42:27.399
<v Speaker 2>because

0:42:27.409 --> 0:42:29.750
<v Speaker 1>obviously when you have someone special in your life, you're

0:42:29.760 --> 0:42:33.040
<v Speaker 1>gonna spend more time with that person and you're gonna

0:42:33.219 --> 0:42:36.739
<v Speaker 1>dedicate the time to nurture your relationship and that's gonna,

0:42:36.750 --> 0:42:40.678
<v Speaker 1>you have to forgo some things and naturally it would be,

0:42:40.689 --> 0:42:42.080
<v Speaker 1>I guess your friendships,

0:42:44.979 --> 0:42:46.459
<v Speaker 1>I feel like I feel like

0:42:47.090 --> 0:42:49.870
<v Speaker 1>all the friends I've been with once they got in

0:42:49.879 --> 0:42:52.290
<v Speaker 1>a relationship, like they take a little bit of a

0:42:52.300 --> 0:42:54.860
<v Speaker 1>step back. So there's a moment where you slip off

0:42:54.870 --> 0:42:58.370
<v Speaker 1>the face of the earth and I completely understand that

0:42:58.379 --> 0:43:00.790
<v Speaker 1>because you want, you meet someone new and you want,

0:43:01.060 --> 0:43:02.270
<v Speaker 1>you want to see them all the time, you want

0:43:02.280 --> 0:43:03.540
<v Speaker 1>to get to know them and you want to be

0:43:03.550 --> 0:43:06.219
<v Speaker 1>in that bubble like that's fair. On that note. I mean,

0:43:06.229 --> 0:43:09.350
<v Speaker 1>this is just a side note but also I've had

0:43:09.360 --> 0:43:14.100
<v Speaker 1>close friends, you know, where our friendship changes because also

0:43:14.120 --> 0:43:14.659
<v Speaker 1>some of us

0:43:14.709 --> 0:43:17.100
<v Speaker 1>get into relationships and then some of them stay single,

0:43:17.110 --> 0:43:19.759
<v Speaker 1>then the dynamic kind of changes because the single ones

0:43:19.770 --> 0:43:23.530
<v Speaker 1>would still want a party a lot or. Yes. Exactly. Yeah.

0:43:23.540 --> 0:43:26.370
<v Speaker 1>You know, and it's just something that you have to

0:43:26.379 --> 0:43:30.100
<v Speaker 1>adjust to, you know, and if I, and I know

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<v Speaker 1>that I used to tell my partner I was uncomfortable

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<v Speaker 1>about this one girl that he was quite kind of

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<v Speaker 1>close to because she was sending him a lot of,

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<v Speaker 1>like gym selfies in. She was sending

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<v Speaker 2>even, she doesn't send me gym. So, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah. So I, yeah. Ok. That's kind of weird.

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<v Speaker 1>You be like, pop off,

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<v Speaker 1>do you like nice background?

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<v Speaker 2>Like the sky looks amazing. Where are you? Right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So, I mean, that was just a side note

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<v Speaker 1>but that's crazy. But anyway, actually we're cool now and

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<v Speaker 1>we're all friends now. I think, I don't know whether

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<v Speaker 1>she was just going through it. Maybe she really liked

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<v Speaker 1>that sports bra. I don't know. She just really like

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<v Speaker 1>the outfit like, yeah, guys. Thank you so much for

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<v Speaker 1>being with me on this episode. I had so much

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