Speaker 1: the mutton sandwich podcast. Welcome to the mutton sandwich podcast.
Speaker 1: This is the show that we
Speaker 1: Find an excuse Martin to catch up with our famous friends.
Speaker 1: That's right. Friends that, you know, work with us or
Speaker 1: we have worked with very special episode today because today
Speaker 1: we're speaking to the newest member of Team Class 95,
Speaker 1: newest member of the family. Today is a get to
Speaker 1: know him a little bit better. Edward Russell.
Speaker 2: Hello,
Speaker 1: what's up? Edward Russell,
Speaker 2: thanks having, you know, it's strange. I've been here for
Speaker 2: a few months already and this is probably going to
Speaker 2: be the longest we've ever spent together.
Speaker 1: Exactly. Well, that's the nature of radio, isn't it? You
Speaker 1: come in, you do your show and you don't really
Speaker 1: have time to sit down and teach at after that.
Speaker 1: And there were a few months where we were quote unquote,
Speaker 1: not allowed to meet each other because of team segregation, right? Blah, blah, blah.
Speaker 1: Let's hope all that is over. So finally, we're sitting
Speaker 1: down together and you know, even before you joined our
Speaker 1: class and my family, we we actually got to know
Speaker 1: you through mutual friends and so, you know, now that
Speaker 1: you finally made the switch to radio, how's it been
Speaker 1: so far? Do you regret it?
Speaker 1: I wasn't going to be asking that question, but yeah, sure.
Speaker 2: So far. So good. You know, it's been interesting like,
Speaker 2: as you know, I came from a tv background in
Speaker 2: the past seven years doing that and you think generally
Speaker 2: broadcasting is broadcasting, right? But it's a totally different thing.
Speaker 2: I think the first thing that I had to get
Speaker 2: used to on radio is just being alone? I mean
Speaker 2: you guys don't have that problem. But having been on
Speaker 2: tv and you look in front of you and you've
Speaker 2: got a whole crew and then you've got another crew
Speaker 2: in your ear, in another room here on radio and
Speaker 2: in this country, you just absolutely alone. And you just
Speaker 2: kind of sit there
Speaker 2: trying to keep yourself company for
Speaker 1: everybody
Speaker 2: on the radio as well. Of course
Speaker 1: you find that sometimes you think you are going crazy
Speaker 1: because you're talking to yourself yourself to make yourself laugh
Speaker 1: and then when you turn off the mic like did
Speaker 1: I just do that? You know it's that but that's
Speaker 1: that's our world. Right? So I mean we don't consider
Speaker 1: you a newbie because you've been doing entertainment for so
Speaker 1: long staying and stuff. But for for the new beast
Speaker 1: sometimes you tell them literally right, bring your favorite soft
Speaker 1: toy or a photograph. Yeah. Put it on the console.
Speaker 1: So you at least you're not alone.
Speaker 2: That's what those little figurines on the Yeah,
Speaker 1: exactly. People actually talk to those. Right? So
Speaker 2: I'm not going to ask you this,
Speaker 1: you better not because they're mostly just things like that.
Speaker 1: I can't be lonely. Um and let's get to know
Speaker 1: you a little bit better. That's what today's mutton sandwich
Speaker 1: podcast is is all about? So for people who don't know,
Speaker 1: what are you,
Speaker 1: what do you mean? What are you, what are you
Speaker 1: what what what what nationality are you what is Ed
Speaker 1: Russell comprised
Speaker 2: of? I feel this is a long story. Sure, exactly.
Speaker 2: Um No, so I was born and born in England
Speaker 2: to a british dad and a singaporean mom. So
Speaker 2: they met over here, my dad was working here, my
Speaker 2: mom was living here and the traditional
Speaker 2: East meets West love
Speaker 1: story.
Speaker 2: Then my mom moved over to the UK. You know,
Speaker 2: with my dad, I was born there. Um
Speaker 2: I stayed there until I was about
Speaker 2: 14, 15 I guess. And a lot of people in
Speaker 2: the UK, they have this fixation with Australia
Speaker 2: because there are a lot of tv shows in the
Speaker 2: UK which is called like place in the sun or
Speaker 2: escape to the sunshine, that kind of thing. And it
Speaker 2: paints this picture of Australia as the U. K. But
Speaker 2: with better weather and nice people,
Speaker 1: Everybody
Speaker 2: gets sold on this lovely image of Australia, as did
Speaker 2: my parents and we all moved to Perth.
Speaker 2: Um and it didn't take them long to realize that okay,
Speaker 2: it wasn't particularly accurate what happened.
Speaker 1: So
Speaker 2: I mean we came from Central London and when we
Speaker 2: moved to Perth of all the kind of cities and
Speaker 2: states in Australia. It is and I don't want to
Speaker 2: be mean to the residents of Perth in case anyone's listening,
Speaker 2: but it's
Speaker 2: a little bit behind the rest of the country
Speaker 1: understandably.
Speaker 2: So when we first moved there, no shops were open
Speaker 2: on a sunday for example, there's one day where the
Speaker 2: shops are open past five o'clock and that's thursday which
Speaker 2: is late night shopping and that's only two like eight
Speaker 2: o'clock anyway so it took some getting used to,
Speaker 2: I hacked it out longer than they did, so they
Speaker 2: ended up moving back but I was kind of at
Speaker 2: that stage where you know, you're just about to go
Speaker 2: into uni and it's way too hard to
Speaker 2: convert your grades to other systems and all that kind
Speaker 2: of thing.
Speaker 2: Stop me if I'm going too long cause I'm still
Speaker 1: in my
Speaker 2: 15 so far. So um yeah I ended up staying
Speaker 2: in Perth did uni um thankfully in Australia you can
Speaker 2: do a double degree pretty quickly in like 4.5 years,
Speaker 2: I had no idea what I wanted to do. So
Speaker 2: I did
Speaker 2: 2° on totally opposite ends of the spectrum. One was
Speaker 2: kind of arts humanities and one was commerce, economics, marketing.
Speaker 1: Okay,
Speaker 2: hoping that at the end of this 4.5 years I'd
Speaker 2: have a greater idea of what I wanted to do
Speaker 2: and I didn't,
Speaker 1: so I
Speaker 2: stayed on and did a master's
Speaker 1: okay.
Speaker 2: Um
Speaker 2: did a master's in english and european studies and film history.
Speaker 2: Right
Speaker 2: and at the end of that I still have no
Speaker 2: idea what I wanted to do, but knew that I
Speaker 2: wanted to stop studying, so
Speaker 1: goodness how many years was that in total? Like at
Speaker 2: the end of that snow? It wasn't to be like 6,
Speaker 2: 6.5
Speaker 1: Ok, ok, ok.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so
Speaker 2: anyway, fast forward to um
Speaker 2: how I got to Singapore, I when I was here
Speaker 2: for holiday because you know Singapore has always been a
Speaker 2: second home to me and I have family here, that
Speaker 2: kind of thing. Um and when I was very small
Speaker 2: um you know before I started school, we actually lived
Speaker 2: here for a little bit because I didn't have to
Speaker 2: be anywhere else. My dad was working here, so
Speaker 2: on one of my kind of most recent trips to Singapore,
Speaker 2: you know, probably not so much now, but back in
Speaker 2: the day there were those like model scouts like walking
Speaker 2: around orchard road with their business cards and everything like that, right?
Speaker 2: So I thought this is all fake, these guys are
Speaker 2: like a bit weird, right? I don't know where they're
Speaker 2: going to take you to do these photo shoots, but
Speaker 2: I just wanted to travel. So I got in contact
Speaker 2: with one of these guys that passed me his card
Speaker 2: and he was like yeah, you know come down Singapore
Speaker 2: do a three month kind of modeling stint and see
Speaker 2: how that goes.
Speaker 2: I did that and then
Speaker 2: kind of used modeling as a means of traveling around
Speaker 2: asia for a couple of years, it's one of those
Speaker 2: things where you know, you'll do some campaigns in Singapore
Speaker 2: then an agency in Thailand will see you and say,
Speaker 2: hey you wanna come to Bangkok for a few years.
Speaker 2: Um So it's a great way to travel around. Um
Speaker 2: and then like everything after a couple of years I
Speaker 2: got kind of tired of that um and wanted to
Speaker 2: station myself in one place and and Singapore kind of
Speaker 2: seemed like the obvious choice to do
Speaker 1: that. Nice. And then you got into hosting a tv.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I mean, I guess the good thing about
Speaker 2: modeling is you're in front of a camera, then you
Speaker 2: transitioned from um not speaking in front of a camera,
Speaker 2: not moving then kind of moving in commercial, you know,
Speaker 2: acting but not really speaking.
Speaker 1: Yeah, then
Speaker 2: you're kind of getting these skills as you go along,
Speaker 2: so then you're speaking in front of camera, I did
Speaker 2: some acting for Mediacorp actually back in the day, so
Speaker 2: Channel five spouse for house. I'm sure you won't remember
Speaker 2: my part because it was so kind of like,
Speaker 1: okay,
Speaker 2: and then I was on Syria as well,
Speaker 1: you're kidding?
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: You
Speaker 2: know, so it's a it was a show called cosmopolitan,
Speaker 2: which
Speaker 2: I assume means cosmopolitans.
Speaker 1: Think
Speaker 2: it's one of those like families from different backgrounds, all
Speaker 2: the characters, different languages, all that kind of thing. Um
Speaker 2: So my memory of doing that show actually was was
Speaker 2: not good and that's all thanks to bobby Tonelli who
Speaker 2: is a
Speaker 1: former colleague of ours, so
Speaker 2: my role in that was
Speaker 2: okay, so my role in all these kind of mediacorp
Speaker 2: shows that I did was um
Speaker 2: the young love interest guy. Okay, okay, okay, okay, but cosmopolitan,
Speaker 2: I was the bad love interest guy, so it was
Speaker 2: bobby married to this lady, I can't remember who, and
Speaker 2: I was the guy who was trying to break them
Speaker 2: up and steal her for
Speaker 1: myself
Speaker 2: and until bobby found out
Speaker 2: at which point this was caldecott car park, we filmed it,
Speaker 2: I was getting into my car, he literally pulls me
Speaker 2: out of the car and throws me against a pillar
Speaker 2: and the directors like bobby, you don't have to go
Speaker 2: too hard on this, this first time I met bobby
Speaker 2: was like man, we got to sell it to the people,
Speaker 2: you know, we've got to make it really before
Speaker 1: we know he's literally
Speaker 2: grabbing me and throwing me against his pillow and not
Speaker 2: one of those fake matrix pillars, like a
Speaker 1: proper pillar pillar,
Speaker 2: Man, it's safe to say like after that we didn't
Speaker 2: speak for about five
Speaker 1: years?
Speaker 1: Oh that's so that's so good. Um but how did
Speaker 1: the hosting come around, because that was your longest stint? Right,
Speaker 1: you on the cable sports channels?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so that was honestly everything in my life
Speaker 2: has just kind of been um
Speaker 2: not pre planned, I don't want to say it fell
Speaker 2: into it, but things are just kind of, you know,
Speaker 2: gain momentum and snowballed, right? So,
Speaker 2: um, I did some hosting like a couple of travel
Speaker 2: shows and I did this show for an online channel
Speaker 2: that we went around different companies officers like Spotify, yahoo,
Speaker 2: all that kind of stuff. And basically somebody at Fox
Speaker 2: Sports just saw me
Speaker 2: and called me up and was like, hey, we're looking
Speaker 2: for people who want to come and do a screen
Speaker 2: test and, and that was that. And then I was
Speaker 2: there for
Speaker 2: seven years or so.
Speaker 1: Nice. So how did the, how the masters degree and
Speaker 1: all that? Good question. Okay,
Speaker 2: so my thesis topic, by the way on that was
Speaker 2: the representation of thatcherism
Speaker 2: and the inability of class ascension as represented in the
Speaker 2: films of ken loach
Speaker 1: and that's, that's the education you used to commentate on
Speaker 1: matches like little boy. Exactly, precisely.
Speaker 2: You're breaking down films, you're breaking down matches, it's all
Speaker 2: the same kind of thing.
Speaker 1: Exactly. But I mean I'd like to ask this to
Speaker 1: people because I've never even been to university, but
Speaker 1: do you regret spending so much time studying?
Speaker 1: I
Speaker 2: don't want to say this in case kids are listening
Speaker 2: and then they tell their parents seem um, I don't
Speaker 2: need to
Speaker 1: go to, you don't worry steve jobs, settle that.
Speaker 2: No. Look, I will say that. I don't honestly remember
Speaker 2: any of the content I learned and there was a
Speaker 2: lot of content. Um, but I think it definitely the
Speaker 2: co curricular stuff really helped me. So I was
Speaker 2: vice president of, I don't know how it is in Singapore.
Speaker 2: It's like the arts unions, student union for the Arts
Speaker 2: faculty and I think we had like
Speaker 2: A lot of like 10,000 members or something like that,
Speaker 2: but that taught me to kind of public speak, um um,
Speaker 2: speak to people, get up, get up on stage and
Speaker 2: do all that kind of thing. So that helped me
Speaker 2: because I was really kind of
Speaker 2: I was really shy at school and I didn't know
Speaker 2: my place and I think that really helped
Speaker 2: bring me out of my shell and I think especially
Speaker 2: if you've been at school and
Speaker 2: you've kind of developed this persona as, you know, a
Speaker 2: bit of a show. I don't know where you fit in,
Speaker 2: that kind of thing. You need is a great fresh start, right?
Speaker 2: So you can really kind of rediscover who you are
Speaker 2: and just become a whole new person. I don't say
Speaker 2: it became a whole new person, but it definitely gave
Speaker 2: me skills that otherwise I wouldn't,
Speaker 1: it's not all about the academia, it's about the community
Speaker 1: as well and stuff like that. So what was wonderful.
Speaker 1: What a, what a background man, what a, what a journey.
Speaker 1: Which finally landed you here
Speaker 2: at the end of the podcast.
Speaker 1: It's landed you here now back. Okay, let's let's go,
Speaker 1: let's take it from the modeling
Speaker 2: days
Speaker 1: back then. Did you think radio would ever be a
Speaker 1: landing point
Speaker 2: one day? No, I did. To be honest, I did
Speaker 2: realize quite early on in my modeling career. This wasn't
Speaker 2: for me. Um
Speaker 2: for a number reasons. First of all, it's nowhere near
Speaker 2: as glamorous as you think it is because you only
Speaker 2: see the end product and you see these wonderful clothes
Speaker 2: and these nice locations you shoot in.
Speaker 1: That's why I don't do it. But because it's not glamorous, right?
Speaker 1: I'm
Speaker 2: sure people keep calling you right.
Speaker 1: He has in his car is ridiculous. Plastic surgeons, but
Speaker 2: it's so weird because you do these shoots in these
Speaker 2: lovely hotels and whatever it is. And then you go
Speaker 2: back to your tiny little model apartment that they've rented
Speaker 2: for you in the past year or whatever it is
Speaker 2: and like, I don't even know if this is legal,
Speaker 2: actually the amount of people they crammed into
Speaker 1: the
Speaker 2: bunk beds every room. It's
Speaker 2: yeah, no, where near as glamorous as you think it is.
Speaker 2: You gotta you gotta be prepared for a lot of rejection,
Speaker 2: which I guess is actually good training for this industry.
Speaker 2: Singapore wasn't too bad. So okay, so
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what the kind of the last straw
Speaker 2: was from the modeling. So Singapore. You'll get your castings,
Speaker 2: your agency will send you the details and it's up
Speaker 2: to you to go to that place and best kind
Speaker 2: of represent yourself?
Speaker 2: Um Thailand they'll send you the castings and
Speaker 2: you have to somehow struggle with ty cabdrivers going to
Speaker 2: like town in town, which is like, you know an
Speaker 2: hour and a half outside of Bangkok and you get
Speaker 2: there and okay, you can't really kind of smooth talk
Speaker 2: the client so I couldn't because obviously I can't speak
Speaker 2: thai but you still have that ability to present yourself
Speaker 2: in the best possible way
Speaker 2: Taiwan was my very last trip.
Speaker 2: Oh
Speaker 2: and
Speaker 2: that one, they don't even bother telling you the details
Speaker 2: at six a.m. They turn out put your apartment, everyone
Speaker 2: crams into this van and they just drive you around
Speaker 2: the country for the whole day, you get out of
Speaker 2: the different clients place and they line you up
Speaker 2: and the your agent or your, your booker will speak
Speaker 2: to the client privately in mandarin, I'm standing there, I've
Speaker 2: never seen no idea what's going on. And they just
Speaker 2: point at you and they point I want this one,
Speaker 2: this one this one, the rest
Speaker 2: you can go away and you go back to the
Speaker 2: van and you just sit there
Speaker 1: and
Speaker 2: you know they were, I think one of the jobs
Speaker 2: I booked because I have no idea how they,
Speaker 2: how they sell me right because I don't understand. So
Speaker 2: one of the jobs I booked, I was on there
Speaker 2: and that just happened to be an english speaking clients
Speaker 2: and they're like, what part of Japan are you from?
Speaker 2: I was like, I'm sorry, what?
Speaker 2: Oh, your agent said you're you're from Japan, you're half
Speaker 2: japanese because that sells really well in Taiwan, right? And
Speaker 2: I was like, I can't do this anymore, I can't
Speaker 2: like have people talk about me and present me in
Speaker 2: different ways and treated like
Speaker 2: like cattle basically.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it really cheapens the trade, doesn't it?
Speaker 2: Like I have a voice and personality, I want to
Speaker 2: show that. So that, that was my final straw and
Speaker 1: wow, amazing, wow, okay, well you know, now that you're
Speaker 1: here in radio and you know along the journey, you've,
Speaker 1: you've tried different things modeling, uh you know, being in
Speaker 1: front of the camera acting, you're hosting on tv as well,
Speaker 1: I hate to put you on the spot, which, which
Speaker 1: is your favorite? Well, okay, you don't have to give
Speaker 1: me a favorite favorite, but you know, which parts of
Speaker 1: the industry do do you really enjoy doing,
Speaker 2: Look, I'm a massive sports guy and the seven years
Speaker 2: of Fox was, was a dream for me, I'm not
Speaker 2: gonna lie. Um
Speaker 2: you know, traveling to all the grand slams all the races,
Speaker 2: speaking to like my massive idols, right?
Speaker 2: You know, um to the point where it almost just
Speaker 2: became a formality like, oh hey roger Federer, Yeah, it's
Speaker 2: me again. Um so that was an absolute dream and
Speaker 2: you know, my,
Speaker 2: as friends will tell you outside of all this work
Speaker 2: and all my jobs, I just talk about sport to them.
Speaker 2: So it was just the same thing that I would
Speaker 2: do normally in my everyday life, in front of a
Speaker 2: camera that was perfect and
Speaker 2: you know, that all came to an end when force
Speaker 2: closed and if it hadn't closed, I don't know if
Speaker 2: I would have left by choice, you know, I would
Speaker 2: still be in there. But
Speaker 2: what I do love about this opportunity here at class
Speaker 2: is that
Speaker 2: it's given me an opportunity to kind of
Speaker 2: expand my repertoire and talk about different interests because seven
Speaker 2: years of Fox
Speaker 2: already, people are like, oh you're the sports guy, it's
Speaker 2: like I love sports, but I also love entertainment and fashion,
Speaker 2: all this kind of stuff, right? And I didn't have
Speaker 2: an opportunity to kind of show that so
Speaker 2: the great thing about radio, as you know is
Speaker 2: it's all up to you, whatever you want to talk
Speaker 2: about what you want to discuss, who you want to
Speaker 2: talk to as well and to have the opportunity is fantastic.
Speaker 1: And a chance, I don't know why you're celebrating to you,
Speaker 1: but a chance for people to say it back to
Speaker 1: you like, oh my God, I love that too, you know,
Speaker 1: to relate to people that's something tv can never give
Speaker 1: you
Speaker 2: and you're right, actually the engagement
Speaker 2: when I because you know, when you're on tv, you
Speaker 2: go to a large, I mean we were ASia wide, right?
Speaker 2: So we go to a larger audience and you think
Speaker 2: you're going to more people, you're connecting with more people,
Speaker 2: but we get very little feedback back
Speaker 2: here on radio just the first day, you know, you
Speaker 2: have the WhatsApp, all the messages coming through, like I've
Speaker 2: never experienced this before.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's a wonderful feeling to know that you're, you're,
Speaker 1: you're talking to real people, you know, exactly, you know,
Speaker 1: and when they relate to you and they like you and,
Speaker 1: you know, they start
Speaker 1: sometimes stalking you, you get a feel of, of community,
Speaker 1: he's still waiting for someone who's talking, but that's
Speaker 2: the shadow and the potential
Speaker 1: comes to me, but but doing this podcast a great
Speaker 1: opportunity as well to, you know, get to know you
Speaker 1: as a person as opposed to, you know, the sports
Speaker 1: guy or the model guy and all that and, you know, it's,
Speaker 1: it's a nice welcome to the family as well because
Speaker 1: uh for a long time we've, we were the only
Speaker 1: two guys here and then john joined us and then,
Speaker 1: and now you, so, you know, a little nice guy club,
Speaker 1: it's balanced out, you know, we were not always being
Speaker 1: scolded by the girls anymore and it's great because we
Speaker 1: have such similar interests. So, um, because we're both huge
Speaker 1: sports fans as well, so well, no sports being mainly
Speaker 1: football and a couple of other Formula One, I'm a
Speaker 1: huge tennis fan as well, so, so then, you know,
Speaker 1: at least you're not going to say names who we
Speaker 1: don't know exactly who's the favorite sports person you've interviewed.
Speaker 2: Um
Speaker 2: okay, from the tennis side of things, definitely, I would
Speaker 2: say
Speaker 2: Roger Federer, rafael Nadal. And
Speaker 2: look, I'm not going to pretend that I know them
Speaker 2: as people, Right? Sure, what I will say is that
Speaker 2: whenever the cameras are on, they were incredibly polite and
Speaker 2: they have time for you, they're more than happy to
Speaker 2: answer your questions if you want to sneak in another one,
Speaker 2: you know, when you're doing these interviews and the
Speaker 2: that the asian will tap you on the background,
Speaker 1: you can squeeze
Speaker 2: one in and they're like, fine, it's fine, agents sit
Speaker 2: down again, we'll finish,
Speaker 2: They're very welcoming and they just feel make you feel
Speaker 2: very at home. The one
Speaker 2: interviewee who I I I very rarely kind of freeze
Speaker 2: up and don't know what to say. The one time
Speaker 2: it happened was with Lewis Hamilton's, it was my very
Speaker 2: first F one on site, we're in bahrain, wow.
Speaker 2: And
Speaker 2: You know, when you're when you're fresh at a job,
Speaker 2: you prep like Mad. So the night before I was
Speaker 2: like scrolling all these different questions for all the different
Speaker 2: drivers because the way F1 interviews work is
Speaker 2: You don't necessarily know you're getting louis, they all pour
Speaker 2: into this little paddock thing, I mean if you've walked
Speaker 2: around kind of the Singapore F1 Paddock, you'll see like
Speaker 2: this little pen basically, and then whenever the drivers finished
Speaker 2: qualifying and finished the race where they crash out early,
Speaker 2: they are obliged to kind of file into this pen.
Speaker 2: So you're just standing there waiting the entire time and oh,
Speaker 2: you see your driver coming over and you're like, oh,
Speaker 2: who's this? Okay, quickly is louis trying to find your
Speaker 2: one page amongst the 50 page of notes about the
Speaker 2: Lewis questions, and suddenly he's just standing in front of
Speaker 2: me and I'm like,
Speaker 2: I can't remember any of my questions.
Speaker 1: He's
Speaker 2: like, hi, what's up? I'm like,
Speaker 2: I just stood there, I didn't know what to say.
Speaker 2: And he walked away and then I remember, and I
Speaker 2: was like, louis I remember can you come
Speaker 1: back, can you come back?
Speaker 2: And he just kept walking away?
Speaker 2: And that to be honest, that was good training
Speaker 2: to not over prep. You know, when you prep so much,
Speaker 2: you just kind of forget everything. If you have one
Speaker 2: question in your head that will do
Speaker 1: exactly. Just
Speaker 2: get it in there
Speaker 2: and start off on a good note, right? And then
Speaker 2: you can kind of bring it back to all the
Speaker 2: other things you have, but just yeah, that was good
Speaker 2: training for me and it never happened again.
Speaker 1: Did you get a chance to to make up with
Speaker 1: louis like, yeah,
Speaker 2: go down the track in the middle. I'm not sure
Speaker 2: if I'm sure you meet so many people, I'm not
Speaker 2: gonna I'm not gonna pretend that you remember that guy,
Speaker 2: I couldn't think of a question. Um,
Speaker 2: but
Speaker 2: yeah, the
Speaker 2: actually because you know, you guys are big football fans,
Speaker 2: I gotta admit the one shame about Fox is because
Speaker 2: we never had the Premier League rights.
Speaker 1: We never really got
Speaker 2: to speak to many footballers, which would have been the dream,
Speaker 1: which this will shape our perception of you and our
Speaker 1: relationship as well. Who's your team?
Speaker 2: So my team is arsenal,
Speaker 1: which I feel
Speaker 2: is kind of safe ground.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: you're right. We're not good enough to really,
Speaker 1: you were at one point you
Speaker 2: even then, I feel like we were when we were
Speaker 2: really good, right? The invincibles time, we're kind of every
Speaker 2: second team because we played some good football.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes. Nobody, I feel hates arsenal. Yeah, yeah. They're
Speaker 1: they're a London club that is very accessible to everybody.
Speaker 1: Like when we were in the UK for for for
Speaker 1: for a job, you know, we got the opportunity, we
Speaker 1: invited the arsenal stadium to watch a match and they
Speaker 1: treated so nicely. You know, we even told them who
Speaker 1: we support and they were like, okay for tonight. Um, yeah,
Speaker 1: we are, you know, for, for both of us, he's
Speaker 1: Liverpool and Manchester, right?
Speaker 1: Um, neither of us have been to Anfield old traffic
Speaker 1: only Premier League match we've both ever watched was an
Speaker 1: arsenal arsenal
Speaker 2: arsenal still
Speaker 1: remember they beat Everton four nil back in 2017. So
Speaker 1: it was, it was quite an experience and we, we,
Speaker 1: we
Speaker 2: didn't get the whole like corporate experience within the box
Speaker 2: and everything. Yeah, we're
Speaker 1: very lucky. So, you know, I don't know if, you know,
Speaker 1: john dykes?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I worked with him for a long time. So okay,
Speaker 2: dykes
Speaker 1: is the man, you know, so wow. Okay. So arsenal
Speaker 1: were good. Exactly. We can be friends again. Yeah. Let's
Speaker 1: talk about you and Singapore. So you have been here
Speaker 1: consecutively. You, you've been living here now. What, eight years?
Speaker 2: Yeah. About that. But then prior to that. Yeah, a
Speaker 2: lot of trips and short since
Speaker 1: you and your family here as well. Yes. Yes. By
Speaker 1: the way for, for people who might be having designs
Speaker 1: and is married. So yeah, exactly. So hands off the
Speaker 1: merchandise stalkers do it from afar. Um, you,
Speaker 1: what is, what would you say is your favorite thing
Speaker 2: about living here
Speaker 1: having lived in so many other countries.
Speaker 2: It's just easy
Speaker 2: in the sense that
Speaker 2: it's safe. You don't have to worry about, you know, um,
Speaker 2: back in the day when we can stay out until
Speaker 2: whatever time in the morning. You can just walk home.
Speaker 2: Not a problem. Don't you think about where you are,
Speaker 2: You know, make sure you're looking around at all times,
Speaker 2: everything works, everything's clean, everything's modern. Um,
Speaker 2: it's just a really easy place to live. It's efficient.
Speaker 2: It's
Speaker 1: efficient. And what is your go to thing to eat
Speaker 2: here.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's a good question.
Speaker 2: So I'm trying to do no carb diet at the moment.
Speaker 2: Things that would have been my go to things to
Speaker 2: eat now can't be, but
Speaker 1: that stuff, but in general, if you were not on
Speaker 1: the low carb
Speaker 2: diet, okay,
Speaker 2: huck and me beef noodles, but not like the european
Speaker 2: type more the kind of like the dry
Speaker 2: and
Speaker 2: okay. Just all an oyster omelet and character of the
Speaker 2: white one, not the black one.
Speaker 1: Okay, We can be friends. We can be good friends
Speaker 1: and it's all carbs except except that's I think lower
Speaker 1: less less carbs.
Speaker 2: But what they're lacking cubs they make up for, in fact.
Speaker 1: Exactly. Right, wow, Okay, Well it's, it's been,
Speaker 1: it's so fun, you know, getting to know you and
Speaker 1: like I, I never knew about all that modeling and
Speaker 1: all that stuff before we spoke today. So fantastic. Well,
Speaker 1: welcome to the team again. And, and you know, we
Speaker 1: hope to have you of course on this team for
Speaker 1: as long as possible. And we usually like to wrap
Speaker 1: up the podcast with the turning of the tables. That's right. So,
Speaker 1: you know, we've been grilling you about questions about yourself
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. So
Speaker 1: now finally you can ask us one question either individually
Speaker 1: or collectively. Uh, anything you want to get to know
Speaker 1: us a little bit better.
Speaker 2: Okay,
Speaker 2: Okay, so I've got to know everybody on the team.
Speaker 2: Everybody on the station. Right. Obviously you guys are a
Speaker 2: fixture as a duo, right? But if you had to
Speaker 2: pick somebody else on the station to partner up with
Speaker 1: questions. Questions. Okay. I need to think,
Speaker 1: I, I think it's pretty easy for me. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Who I'm going to choose. Yes. See really? Because she's
Speaker 1: very hard working, which means I don't have to do anything.
Speaker 1: She can just do everything and I'll just sit there
Speaker 1: and react to her. So yes, he will be my
Speaker 1: go to see is a control freak. Exactly as she
Speaker 1: does every reason
Speaker 2: she trains all of us,
Speaker 1: That she's the official class, 95 trainers. So yeah, she's
Speaker 1: a control freak. Like she, even if you wanted to,
Speaker 1: she wouldn't allow you to do any of the work. Exactly.
Speaker 1: So I just sit there and relax, you know? And,
Speaker 1: and wow, thank you for your time.
Speaker 1: I know who you want. You said this to me
Speaker 1: many times, what you want to co host, john class
Speaker 1: because both of you are such good singers. You guys
Speaker 1: can go on the air every evening and sing to
Speaker 1: each other. No, no, no, no, no, I don't know
Speaker 1: why you're making up
Speaker 2: for valentine's day. We had the best love song duets
Speaker 2: of all timer. I can totally see you and john
Speaker 1: making his um,
Speaker 1: I actually think me and gene could do a good
Speaker 1: show together. Oh really? Okay. Because we have a lot
Speaker 1: in common in the sense that we both went to
Speaker 1: the same school, we both started doing radio and we're
Speaker 1: both 16 years old. So you know, I feel like
Speaker 1: I can be on a very similar way of language
Speaker 1: and relate with gene, you know, and and and all
Speaker 1: the times we've never got a chance to work with her.
Speaker 1: But in all the times that I've spoken to her,
Speaker 1: like we do have a lot in common. You know
Speaker 1: what we both love like our the first loves of
Speaker 1: our lives. What fries?
Speaker 1: You're kidding me naked like she likes to eat. I
Speaker 1: have never seen it. It's a it's a myth that
Speaker 1: she
Speaker 2: hurried banana once. I
Speaker 1: think that's it in the Times that she does. The
Speaker 1: number one thing she goes for is fries. Which which
Speaker 1: I mean, you know it's your favorite have quite a
Speaker 1: lot in common, right? So that she would never work. Why?
Speaker 1: Because you're constantly eating fries, you can't talk. So you
Speaker 1: see that that that's out the window already. J. And J. D.
Speaker 1: I think that could be that. I think that could
Speaker 1: be okay. Nice thing. Good question. What what a nice
Speaker 1: loaded question. I appreciate that. No one has
Speaker 1: ever asked a question like that is very nice.
Speaker 2: But I'm suggesting you guys split up for anything again.
Speaker 1: No, no no it's been on my mind for a
Speaker 1: long time. The alright, the afternoon show with Edward Russell.
Speaker 1: It's 2 to 5 PM every single weekday here in
Speaker 1: class 95. We're so happy to have him as part
Speaker 1: of the family and we can't wait to hear more
Speaker 1: of you. And you know what? Obviously to a lot
Speaker 1: of people, you're like, who's the new guy? But when
Speaker 1: you when you listen to him, I'm not I'm not
Speaker 1: saying this just because you hear when you listen to him,
Speaker 1: You know, and you've been in there how long? three months?
Speaker 2: About three months.
Speaker 1: About three months. He doesn't sound like the new guy.
Speaker 1: This guy sounds so good. Exactly polished. He knows what
Speaker 1: he's doing. He preps man. So and that's because of
Speaker 1: his thesis on thatcherism and Exactly, yeah, Good stuff. Thanks.
Speaker 2: Thanks so much guys.