1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:01,510 Speaker 1: He says he's zero 2 00:00:01,710 --> 00:00:04,830 Speaker 2: remain and welcome back to another episode of clarity's, 3 00:00:09,369 --> 00:00:11,190 Speaker 1: Oh my New 4 00:00:11,190 --> 00:00:12,090 Speaker 2: Year, new us 5 00:00:12,100 --> 00:00:17,220 Speaker 1: wearing white today because we want to have a pure 6 00:00:17,220 --> 00:00:19,210 Speaker 1: and wholesome fresh start 7 00:00:19,220 --> 00:00:19,790 Speaker 2: that. 8 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:23,630 Speaker 2: And today we're going to talk about something. I think 9 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:27,930 Speaker 2: I could have done better in the past year, sustainability. 10 00:00:27,940 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 2: Oh my God, Oh my gosh! So we all know 11 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:31,650 Speaker 2: that climate change is a very real thing and a 12 00:00:31,650 --> 00:00:34,349 Speaker 2: lot of like millennials and gen z, they're looking to 13 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:37,750 Speaker 2: make a positive impact. So we should as well. Now, 14 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:40,730 Speaker 2: quick question for the girls, what do you girls understand 15 00:00:40,729 --> 00:00:42,510 Speaker 2: about sustainable lifestyle? 16 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 1: Wow, okay, well I think there's a few things, right? 17 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 1: One of it 18 00:00:45,935 --> 00:00:49,475 Speaker 1: is probably reducing your carbon footprint. So for example, do 19 00:00:49,475 --> 00:00:52,155 Speaker 1: you know that when you take like a flight, an airplane, 20 00:00:52,165 --> 00:00:55,025 Speaker 1: like that's a very huge carbon footprint because the amount 21 00:00:55,025 --> 00:00:57,805 Speaker 1: of fuel that's being, you know, wasted and carbon emissions. 22 00:00:57,805 --> 00:01:00,945 Speaker 1: So that's one thing I understand very guilty of that. 23 00:01:00,955 --> 00:01:01,705 Speaker 2: We all 24 00:01:01,705 --> 00:01:06,464 Speaker 1: are, I think also reducing the waste, food, waste or 25 00:01:06,465 --> 00:01:08,875 Speaker 1: you know, like other ways. And I think also in 26 00:01:08,875 --> 00:01:11,165 Speaker 1: terms of the brands and the products 27 00:01:11,190 --> 00:01:17,149 Speaker 1: that you support and buy because they're like manufacturing systems 28 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:19,860 Speaker 1: as well, some is a little bit more ethical and 29 00:01:19,860 --> 00:01:23,310 Speaker 1: a little bit more environmentally conscious than others. Yeah, 30 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:27,570 Speaker 2: you guys are spot on. So some examples of sustainable habits. Um, 31 00:01:27,580 --> 00:01:30,070 Speaker 2: fast fashion, what you mentioned just now because a lot 32 00:01:30,069 --> 00:01:33,230 Speaker 2: of fast fashion brands, they have single use plastic, right? 33 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:35,260 Speaker 2: Which is what we want to avoid if you purchase 34 00:01:35,260 --> 00:01:36,420 Speaker 2: from brands like Sheen, 35 00:01:36,444 --> 00:01:39,475 Speaker 2: we know that every piece of apparel comes in its 36 00:01:39,485 --> 00:01:43,185 Speaker 2: own plastic, which is pretty unnecessary, we can also reduce 37 00:01:43,185 --> 00:01:45,545 Speaker 2: our water consumption. Not in terms of the water, we 38 00:01:45,545 --> 00:01:48,895 Speaker 2: drink the water we use to wash our clothes and 39 00:01:48,905 --> 00:01:49,425 Speaker 2: all that, 40 00:01:49,435 --> 00:01:52,075 Speaker 1: like taking a shower as opposed to a bath because 41 00:01:52,105 --> 00:01:53,835 Speaker 1: that takes up more water. That's 42 00:01:53,835 --> 00:01:57,725 Speaker 2: right, That's right. And also I didn't really think much 43 00:01:57,725 --> 00:02:01,700 Speaker 2: of this previously, but actually reducing your meat consumption 44 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:06,620 Speaker 2: is also a sustainable lifestyle or sustainable, it will go 45 00:02:06,620 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 2: more into it 46 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:07,970 Speaker 1: later. Okay, 47 00:02:07,980 --> 00:02:11,149 Speaker 2: While going green seems like the most ideal thing to do. 48 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:15,609 Speaker 2: The fact remains that sustainability goods, they can be more expensive. 49 00:02:15,620 --> 00:02:17,910 Speaker 2: In fact, I think some studies have shown that even 50 00:02:17,910 --> 00:02:21,010 Speaker 2: though four out of five Singaporeans are concerned about the environment, 51 00:02:21,020 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 2: but only 35% of them are willing to pay up 52 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:27,810 Speaker 2: to 10% more of these goods. But you know, according 53 00:02:27,810 --> 00:02:30,850 Speaker 2: to a table that we saw from the con 54 00:02:30,868 --> 00:02:34,758 Speaker 2: Sentimentalist, if you're talking about stuff like glassware, regular products 55 00:02:34,758 --> 00:02:39,368 Speaker 2: may cost like $11, but sustainable products cost about $23 56 00:02:39,377 --> 00:02:39,857 Speaker 2: more 57 00:02:39,858 --> 00:02:41,338 Speaker 1: Than doubles, more than 50. 58 00:02:41,588 --> 00:02:45,917 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. And for soap and cleaning products, it 59 00:02:45,928 --> 00:02:49,268 Speaker 2: can go up to like four times the original price. 60 00:02:49,278 --> 00:02:53,947 Speaker 2: If you're talking sustainability, other nondurable household goods, like toilet rolls, 61 00:02:53,958 --> 00:02:57,228 Speaker 2: the regular ones can cost about $6, the sustainable ones 62 00:02:57,228 --> 00:02:59,839 Speaker 2: can cost about $7. That's okay 63 00:02:59,856 --> 00:03:03,175 Speaker 2: but if it's like four times the original price, would 64 00:03:03,175 --> 00:03:04,506 Speaker 2: you girls go for that? Well 65 00:03:04,506 --> 00:03:07,596 Speaker 1: here's the thing, right? If you have the ability to, 66 00:03:07,606 --> 00:03:10,256 Speaker 1: I guess try to but not everyone has that luxury 67 00:03:10,256 --> 00:03:13,296 Speaker 1: of choice. You know, most people calculate how much their 68 00:03:13,296 --> 00:03:17,396 Speaker 1: groceries cost and have a certain budget for it. But 69 00:03:17,406 --> 00:03:20,136 Speaker 1: I also have seen on Tiktok where some people like 70 00:03:20,145 --> 00:03:24,966 Speaker 1: make their own shampoo or make their own soap or yeah, 71 00:03:24,976 --> 00:03:27,976 Speaker 1: where it doesn't cost like an insane amount of money, 72 00:03:27,986 --> 00:03:28,830 Speaker 1: but it does take time 73 00:03:28,844 --> 00:03:30,854 Speaker 1: time and effort, which not everyone has. 74 00:03:30,864 --> 00:03:33,853 Speaker 2: So when was the last time you girls about something 75 00:03:33,854 --> 00:03:34,994 Speaker 2: that is sustainable? 76 00:03:35,004 --> 00:03:40,104 Speaker 1: I think probably some household goods like soap and all that. 77 00:03:40,114 --> 00:03:43,784 Speaker 1: Usually by this brand called method which is more sustainable 78 00:03:43,794 --> 00:03:47,444 Speaker 1: and eco friendly but it is very expensive. That's the thing. 79 00:03:47,454 --> 00:03:48,714 Speaker 2: You know, I 80 00:03:48,714 --> 00:03:52,104 Speaker 1: don't know actually, I don't really buy things like clothes 81 00:03:52,104 --> 00:03:54,584 Speaker 1: you buy all the time aside from clothes. I don't 82 00:03:54,584 --> 00:03:57,174 Speaker 1: really buy things. It's very funny because I rarely go out. 83 00:03:57,174 --> 00:03:57,820 Speaker 1: I visit malls 84 00:03:57,832 --> 00:04:01,092 Speaker 1: like maybe 34 times a year. It's actually true. You 85 00:04:01,092 --> 00:04:03,682 Speaker 1: don't go to like Watson. So like, I don't know, okay, 86 00:04:03,692 --> 00:04:06,252 Speaker 1: it's either, I'll ask someone who's going to buy from 87 00:04:06,252 --> 00:04:09,182 Speaker 1: me or usually like when I go, I stock up, 88 00:04:09,192 --> 00:04:11,762 Speaker 1: you c. O and like a lot of the stuff 89 00:04:11,762 --> 00:04:14,132 Speaker 1: I use, I don't get them in Singapore as well. 90 00:04:14,142 --> 00:04:16,632 Speaker 1: So I literally by like two liter, two liter two liter, 91 00:04:16,632 --> 00:04:20,112 Speaker 1: I still have like tons at home. I stock up 92 00:04:20,112 --> 00:04:22,332 Speaker 1: when I travel in a sense buying a two liter 93 00:04:22,332 --> 00:04:26,632 Speaker 1: bottle then buying like 500 ml bottle's probably cuts down 94 00:04:26,632 --> 00:04:26,810 Speaker 1: on 95 00:04:26,820 --> 00:04:27,700 Speaker 1: some plastic as 96 00:04:27,700 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 2: well. For sure. You know, we mentioned like sustainable lifestyle 97 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:34,390 Speaker 2: is actually more than just buying eco friendly products. It 98 00:04:34,390 --> 00:04:36,820 Speaker 2: also means giving up on some good bargains that we 99 00:04:36,820 --> 00:04:39,050 Speaker 2: can find on say she 100 00:04:39,060 --> 00:04:39,990 Speaker 1: oh my God, 101 00:04:40,170 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 2: you're black, friday cyber monday still. 102 00:04:43,970 --> 00:04:46,270 Speaker 1: You know what the funny thing when we first started 103 00:04:46,270 --> 00:04:48,740 Speaker 1: harsh podcast, where was this? 2020 104 00:04:48,750 --> 00:04:49,660 Speaker 2: two years ago? 105 00:04:49,660 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 1: 2020 2021. So we would like to wear the same top, 106 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:55,790 Speaker 1: same outfit, like not just the 107 00:04:55,808 --> 00:04:58,768 Speaker 1: color but the same styles. So we would go and 108 00:04:58,767 --> 00:05:02,228 Speaker 1: shine and we all discovered xin together and we would like, 109 00:05:02,238 --> 00:05:04,298 Speaker 1: you know, how do you say like collect our cut 110 00:05:04,298 --> 00:05:06,957 Speaker 1: together And it's quite appalling. The amount of clothes we bought. 111 00:05:06,968 --> 00:05:09,527 Speaker 2: It's true. We will discuss in a group chat a 112 00:05:09,528 --> 00:05:11,658 Speaker 2: I think this style suits. So the three of us, 113 00:05:11,658 --> 00:05:13,527 Speaker 2: how about you get one in purple, you get what 114 00:05:13,538 --> 00:05:15,058 Speaker 1: you want, whatever. 115 00:05:15,058 --> 00:05:16,788 Speaker 2: You know, we cut out and it sends to us 116 00:05:16,788 --> 00:05:17,898 Speaker 2: and then we just wait for our podcast. 117 00:05:17,898 --> 00:05:18,827 Speaker 1: Exactly. It's 118 00:05:18,827 --> 00:05:22,558 Speaker 2: So convenient. It's so cheap like per t shirt what? 119 00:05:22,558 --> 00:05:24,780 Speaker 2: Less than 10 bucks, but when it arrived at my 120 00:05:24,796 --> 00:05:27,955 Speaker 2: the place I realized why does every piece of shirt 121 00:05:27,966 --> 00:05:29,366 Speaker 2: or like pants need to be 122 00:05:29,376 --> 00:05:30,336 Speaker 1: in a ziploc bag 123 00:05:30,346 --> 00:05:31,345 Speaker 2: by itself I 124 00:05:31,346 --> 00:05:35,416 Speaker 1: think is to keep it easy logistically obviously that there's 125 00:05:35,416 --> 00:05:38,436 Speaker 1: not an environmental aspect to it, but then what you 126 00:05:38,436 --> 00:05:40,616 Speaker 1: could possibly do, which is what I do is I 127 00:05:40,616 --> 00:05:42,695 Speaker 1: keep all the plastics. I'm a hoarder as you guys 128 00:05:42,696 --> 00:05:44,695 Speaker 1: know I've seen my room, I keep all the plastics 129 00:05:44,696 --> 00:05:47,106 Speaker 1: and when I travel I use them to put like 130 00:05:47,176 --> 00:05:49,096 Speaker 1: gallons or clothes. Yes, 131 00:05:49,126 --> 00:05:51,205 Speaker 2: when you go swimming you need like 132 00:05:51,206 --> 00:05:52,306 Speaker 1: ziploc bags to 133 00:05:52,306 --> 00:05:53,770 Speaker 2: put your wet suits and stuff. 134 00:05:53,784 --> 00:05:57,443 Speaker 2: So question are we able to give up on all 135 00:05:57,444 --> 00:06:00,024 Speaker 2: these good deals on these platforms? You 136 00:06:00,024 --> 00:06:03,654 Speaker 1: see here's the thing I noticed as well. Like yes 137 00:06:03,654 --> 00:06:06,034 Speaker 1: they are cheap. Right? And yes, you know it's fun 138 00:06:06,034 --> 00:06:08,313 Speaker 1: for that moment. But how often do you wear them 139 00:06:08,324 --> 00:06:10,524 Speaker 1: once twice and then you're done with it? You don't 140 00:06:10,524 --> 00:06:13,243 Speaker 1: really wear them as often as things that you invest 141 00:06:13,244 --> 00:06:15,654 Speaker 1: a little bit more in. And also the quality of 142 00:06:15,654 --> 00:06:19,034 Speaker 1: the products of fast fashion and ultra fast fashion products 143 00:06:19,044 --> 00:06:22,344 Speaker 1: generally don't last that long. So that means you get 144 00:06:22,344 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 1: less for you 145 00:06:22,892 --> 00:06:25,052 Speaker 1: out of it even though it's cheaper. But then you 146 00:06:25,052 --> 00:06:27,092 Speaker 1: need to think when it breaks right, it goes to 147 00:06:27,092 --> 00:06:30,312 Speaker 1: a landfill, it doesn't just bio degree. Yeah, 148 00:06:30,322 --> 00:06:33,672 Speaker 2: after having talked about all of this, are we able 149 00:06:33,672 --> 00:06:36,662 Speaker 2: to give up all these good deals on all these 150 00:06:36,672 --> 00:06:39,592 Speaker 2: fast or ultra fast fashion platforms. 151 00:06:39,601 --> 00:06:42,541 Speaker 1: I think Ultra fast. Can I think fast a little 152 00:06:42,541 --> 00:06:43,492 Speaker 1: bit hard. Okay, 153 00:06:43,492 --> 00:06:45,942 Speaker 2: very honest. I like that. What about you? I 154 00:06:45,952 --> 00:06:49,612 Speaker 1: think, no, I mean I will make a conscious effort 155 00:06:49,622 --> 00:06:51,750 Speaker 1: to you know, try and stop it more 156 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:56,089 Speaker 1: sustainable brands, but it's very expensive and I can't be 157 00:06:56,089 --> 00:06:59,260 Speaker 1: spending like, okay, the same amount of basket size, right? 158 00:06:59,260 --> 00:07:04,219 Speaker 1: Maybe on the fast fashion, I'll spend $100 on sustainable brands. 159 00:07:04,220 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 1: Could be 5 $600. That's a very huge difference, correct? 160 00:07:07,330 --> 00:07:11,930 Speaker 2: Yeah. So I have a colleague in my radio station, 161 00:07:11,940 --> 00:07:15,070 Speaker 2: he always brings his own like topper where his own 162 00:07:15,070 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 2: like metal spoon and fork, right? Whenever he eats in 163 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:20,250 Speaker 2: the county, he uses that. So he's trying to be 164 00:07:20,250 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 2: more sustain 165 00:07:20,748 --> 00:07:23,588 Speaker 2: in a sense. But on the other hand, when it 166 00:07:23,588 --> 00:07:26,628 Speaker 2: comes to like the ultra fast fashion brands, he also 167 00:07:26,638 --> 00:07:29,538 Speaker 2: stocks up on that love just because it's cheaper and 168 00:07:29,538 --> 00:07:31,658 Speaker 2: you need clothes to come to the office every day, right? 169 00:07:31,668 --> 00:07:33,808 Speaker 1: So maybe then it's like, okay, if you can't let 170 00:07:33,808 --> 00:07:36,268 Speaker 1: go of fast fashion brands, Are there other ways in 171 00:07:36,268 --> 00:07:42,598 Speaker 1: your life that you can maybe you use your reusable? Yeah. 172 00:07:42,608 --> 00:07:45,828 Speaker 2: So we have a note from our producer, she's all 173 00:07:45,828 --> 00:07:49,098 Speaker 2: for less waste. But when she sees like $5 shipped 174 00:07:49,098 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 2: from China 175 00:07:49,736 --> 00:07:52,386 Speaker 2: cute top from shop E that's going to look so 176 00:07:52,386 --> 00:07:55,836 Speaker 2: cute on her baby, she'll buy for sure. So it's 177 00:07:55,836 --> 00:07:58,036 Speaker 2: worth knowing that the baby is going to outgrow this 178 00:07:58,036 --> 00:08:00,426 Speaker 2: in about half a year's time. But it's a struggle 179 00:08:00,426 --> 00:08:05,006 Speaker 2: because she easy, convenient, right? But she says she tries 180 00:08:05,006 --> 00:08:07,326 Speaker 2: to also use hand me downs from her cousins, 181 00:08:07,336 --> 00:08:08,116 Speaker 1: from cousins, 182 00:08:08,116 --> 00:08:11,506 Speaker 2: babies passed down and most of the staff also secondhand 183 00:08:11,516 --> 00:08:12,526 Speaker 2: from carol cell. 184 00:08:12,536 --> 00:08:15,076 Speaker 1: I told my brother to keep all the baby stuff right. 185 00:08:15,076 --> 00:08:16,586 Speaker 1: But by the time I have a baby it's gonna 186 00:08:16,586 --> 00:08:18,710 Speaker 1: be moldy or it is not, 187 00:08:18,724 --> 00:08:21,414 Speaker 1: I will keep it well. And then when the time 188 00:08:21,414 --> 00:08:23,834 Speaker 1: comes can help come and wash with you 189 00:08:23,834 --> 00:08:26,854 Speaker 2: correct idea idea keeping the sheen ziplock back. 190 00:08:26,864 --> 00:08:30,124 Speaker 1: But also, you know, there are many of these events 191 00:08:30,124 --> 00:08:32,244 Speaker 1: right now to up cycle your clothes, you know, to 192 00:08:32,244 --> 00:08:34,284 Speaker 1: find them a new home. There are many of these 193 00:08:34,284 --> 00:08:39,014 Speaker 1: like thrift like exchanges and stuff, rental services. Yes. 194 00:08:39,024 --> 00:08:42,034 Speaker 2: Like I used to subscribe to stall tv for some 195 00:08:42,034 --> 00:08:44,664 Speaker 2: time actually I think it was about a year. So 196 00:08:44,664 --> 00:08:46,644 Speaker 2: how they work is you pay a membership fee for 197 00:08:46,654 --> 00:08:47,700 Speaker 2: a month and then you 198 00:08:47,712 --> 00:08:50,612 Speaker 2: get boxes of clothes delivered to your house after you're 199 00:08:50,612 --> 00:08:52,271 Speaker 2: done with them. You don't even have to wash them. 200 00:08:52,282 --> 00:08:53,912 Speaker 2: Just pack it back in the box, send it back 201 00:08:53,912 --> 00:08:57,281 Speaker 2: to them. And then these clothes get recycled amongst the 202 00:08:57,292 --> 00:09:00,382 Speaker 2: other ladies who are your size and like, like certain 203 00:09:00,392 --> 00:09:02,522 Speaker 2: clothes that you like as well. So I thought that 204 00:09:02,522 --> 00:09:04,541 Speaker 2: was pretty equal friendly and sustainable. 205 00:09:04,552 --> 00:09:07,222 Speaker 1: I really like that concept because then you cut down 206 00:09:07,222 --> 00:09:09,622 Speaker 1: on the new clothes that you have to buy. I 207 00:09:09,631 --> 00:09:11,812 Speaker 1: mean given if let's say you're in our jobs and 208 00:09:11,812 --> 00:09:13,692 Speaker 1: you always need to be wearing new clothes for events 209 00:09:13,692 --> 00:09:14,542 Speaker 1: and stuff like that. 210 00:09:14,552 --> 00:09:16,710 Speaker 2: Have you guys heard of slow fashion? 211 00:09:16,860 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 1: Yes, you got she likes a slow life. Slow fashion. 212 00:09:21,850 --> 00:09:23,939 Speaker 2: Slow living, Slow fashion. Different concept. 213 00:09:24,110 --> 00:09:24,809 Speaker 1: But what do you 214 00:09:24,809 --> 00:09:26,490 Speaker 2: think of slow fashion? What do you think it is 215 00:09:26,500 --> 00:09:30,070 Speaker 1: slow fashion I think is correct me if I'm wrong. 216 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:35,910 Speaker 1: But is it more leaning towards like designer stuff that 217 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:40,730 Speaker 1: more of quality and like more thought was being put 218 00:09:40,730 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 1: in when it was made so they're built to last 219 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:45,890 Speaker 1: and that means you can wear them more 220 00:09:45,976 --> 00:09:48,506 Speaker 1: and like when you're done with it, like it still 221 00:09:48,506 --> 00:09:52,466 Speaker 1: has value and it can serve like other people, I 222 00:09:52,476 --> 00:09:55,976 Speaker 1: think to a certain extent like slow fashion quality, definitely. 223 00:09:55,986 --> 00:09:59,106 Speaker 1: But it doesn't mean that all designer stuff counts as 224 00:09:59,106 --> 00:10:02,006 Speaker 1: slow fashion. I think you need to like also go 225 00:10:02,006 --> 00:10:05,556 Speaker 1: into how it was made, right? The manufacturing process, was 226 00:10:05,556 --> 00:10:08,826 Speaker 1: it ethical? Is it fair? Like labor wise? Right. Because 227 00:10:08,836 --> 00:10:11,636 Speaker 1: a lot of these designers also, you know, as you've 228 00:10:11,636 --> 00:10:14,516 Speaker 1: seen in the news, maybe the labor used to make 229 00:10:14,526 --> 00:10:15,075 Speaker 1: the garment 230 00:10:15,092 --> 00:10:17,052 Speaker 1: was not as ethical as we 231 00:10:17,052 --> 00:10:21,092 Speaker 2: thought, not friendly to animals or the environment, stuff like that. So, 232 00:10:21,092 --> 00:10:24,572 Speaker 2: slow fashion is actually a new eco friendly approach to fashion. 233 00:10:24,582 --> 00:10:30,292 Speaker 2: It focuses on sustainability, recycling, acquiring secondhand garments and it 234 00:10:30,302 --> 00:10:34,041 Speaker 2: just encourages the idea of buying better quality clothes that 235 00:10:34,042 --> 00:10:37,261 Speaker 2: will last longer. So you're right in that sense. But 236 00:10:37,272 --> 00:10:39,811 Speaker 2: as public figures on social media, all three of us, 237 00:10:39,822 --> 00:10:42,442 Speaker 2: do you ever feel the pressure of presenting yourself as 238 00:10:42,442 --> 00:10:44,210 Speaker 2: a conscious consumer? 239 00:10:44,750 --> 00:10:46,590 Speaker 2: I mean, honestly, I would say first it's so hard 240 00:10:46,590 --> 00:10:49,740 Speaker 2: for us because our clothes are ever changing, right? 241 00:10:49,750 --> 00:10:51,900 Speaker 1: I don't really feel that pressure, but I feel on 242 00:10:51,900 --> 00:10:55,420 Speaker 1: an individual level because yesterday I just did a spring 243 00:10:55,420 --> 00:10:58,390 Speaker 1: cleaning of my room and the amount of ship that 244 00:10:58,390 --> 00:11:00,209 Speaker 1: I pulled out of my wardrobe, but I was very 245 00:11:00,210 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 1: ashamed of myself. It was like bags on bags on 246 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:04,550 Speaker 1: clothes and shoes that 247 00:11:04,570 --> 00:11:07,610 Speaker 1: I have not worn in more than five years. And 248 00:11:07,610 --> 00:11:09,180 Speaker 1: where are they going to go? Right, so what I 249 00:11:09,179 --> 00:11:11,710 Speaker 1: did was I packed them all up to either donate 250 00:11:11,710 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 1: or you know, gifted to other people, but it's still 251 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: seeing that sheer amount of waste. Yeah, it really makes 252 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:22,599 Speaker 1: you feel guilty. It's true. I've closed in two rooms 253 00:11:22,610 --> 00:11:24,390 Speaker 1: and that's terrible. Yeah. 254 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:28,210 Speaker 2: So you ever think of like packing them and giving 255 00:11:28,210 --> 00:11:28,860 Speaker 2: them out? 256 00:11:28,870 --> 00:11:33,709 Speaker 1: Yes. Actually, very recently I sent my stuff off like 257 00:11:33,710 --> 00:11:37,010 Speaker 1: some what do they call it? A like, 258 00:11:37,330 --> 00:11:37,390 Speaker 2: you 259 00:11:37,500 --> 00:11:40,390 Speaker 1: know, so they take yourself for you and then after 260 00:11:40,390 --> 00:11:42,860 Speaker 1: that they sort of just like find new homes. 261 00:11:42,870 --> 00:11:43,580 Speaker 2: Oh 262 00:11:43,790 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 2: and we also know carol sell, right, that where people 263 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:49,870 Speaker 2: put up a lot of their second hand stuff for sale. 264 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:52,089 Speaker 2: I think that's a very good idea for anyone listening 265 00:11:52,090 --> 00:11:54,380 Speaker 2: to a podcast as well. If you have stuff still 266 00:11:54,380 --> 00:11:57,210 Speaker 2: in good quality that you want to pass it on 267 00:11:57,210 --> 00:11:58,930 Speaker 2: to someone else, You know, you can even put it 268 00:11:58,940 --> 00:12:01,850 Speaker 2: up for free on carousel. Oh, that's a function. So 269 00:12:01,850 --> 00:12:04,110 Speaker 2: it's either for sale or for free. 270 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:07,210 Speaker 1: It is a facebook group. Also put things out for free. 271 00:12:07,220 --> 00:12:09,020 Speaker 2: Yeah, then people can just collect it. 272 00:12:09,170 --> 00:12:11,559 Speaker 1: You know, some people like to do grab bags around 273 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 1: the face, 274 00:12:12,345 --> 00:12:14,405 Speaker 1: consider that as well. That's right. 275 00:12:14,415 --> 00:12:19,125 Speaker 2: And as a social media personality myself, I find one 276 00:12:19,125 --> 00:12:21,845 Speaker 2: way to go about doing this is to engage the stylist. 277 00:12:21,855 --> 00:12:24,735 Speaker 2: So a stylist they will talk to like 278 00:12:24,745 --> 00:12:25,565 Speaker 1: brands, 279 00:12:25,575 --> 00:12:28,165 Speaker 2: brands and then the brands will loan you the clothes 280 00:12:28,175 --> 00:12:30,145 Speaker 2: and after you're done with it, you just return it 281 00:12:30,145 --> 00:12:33,375 Speaker 2: to the brand. So by doing this, there's no ways involved. 282 00:12:33,385 --> 00:12:36,175 Speaker 2: Of course it comes at a fee or small cost 283 00:12:36,184 --> 00:12:39,574 Speaker 2: of engaging the stylist in the first place. So yeah, 284 00:12:39,585 --> 00:12:40,900 Speaker 2: but we all try right 285 00:12:41,260 --> 00:12:44,070 Speaker 2: now, arguably one of the best ways to reduce our 286 00:12:44,070 --> 00:12:47,380 Speaker 2: carbon footprint is to go vegan. What we mentioned just now, 287 00:12:47,380 --> 00:12:50,910 Speaker 2: I never considered this, but according to a study done 288 00:12:50,910 --> 00:12:54,849 Speaker 2: by Oxford going vegan can reduce an individual's carbon footprint 289 00:12:54,850 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 2: from food by up to 73% because 290 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:03,209 Speaker 1: of the meat plumbing, Like the energy and water used 291 00:13:03,210 --> 00:13:07,010 Speaker 1: to farm, maybe the meat, Is that why it's not sustainable? 292 00:13:07,020 --> 00:13:07,990 Speaker 2: Well, I guess 293 00:13:08,010 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 2: That counts. And also being more friendly to environment caring 294 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:16,060 Speaker 2: for animals. So here's here's some of the health benefits 295 00:13:16,059 --> 00:13:17,960 Speaker 2: of a vegan diet. First of all, you can lower 296 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:21,290 Speaker 2: your blood pressure, keeps your heart healthy, help prevent type 297 00:13:21,300 --> 00:13:25,729 Speaker 2: two diabetes, help you lose weight, decrease your risk of cancer, 298 00:13:25,740 --> 00:13:29,210 Speaker 2: improve your cholesterol, minimize risk of stroke and also keeps 299 00:13:29,210 --> 00:13:30,180 Speaker 2: your brain strong. 300 00:13:30,220 --> 00:13:31,309 Speaker 1: There's a lot of benefits, 301 00:13:31,309 --> 00:13:33,260 Speaker 2: a lot of benefits. But how many of us can 302 00:13:33,260 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 2: actually go vegan? Right. 303 00:13:35,070 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 1: I think the concern for many, right, when it comes 304 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:39,719 Speaker 1: to this is like, will I be able to get 305 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:43,699 Speaker 1: the nutrients the vitamins and everything else I need from 306 00:13:43,700 --> 00:13:47,370 Speaker 1: just vegan products? You know, like protein for example, from me, 307 00:13:47,370 --> 00:13:49,670 Speaker 1: can I replace it with something else? But you know, 308 00:13:49,670 --> 00:13:54,290 Speaker 1: I think very recently there was this doc, you show 309 00:13:54,290 --> 00:13:57,209 Speaker 1: on netflix, I think it's called Game Changes. 310 00:13:57,226 --> 00:14:00,716 Speaker 1: And I think I actually personally know people who went 311 00:14:00,726 --> 00:14:04,456 Speaker 1: vegetarian or vegan after they watched it because apparently in 312 00:14:04,456 --> 00:14:06,606 Speaker 1: the program, but I haven't seen it myself. But apparently 313 00:14:06,606 --> 00:14:10,076 Speaker 1: in the show they went for those athletes, people who 314 00:14:10,086 --> 00:14:15,016 Speaker 1: relied heavily on protein to function. And these people when 315 00:14:15,016 --> 00:14:18,156 Speaker 1: they learned that they could actually get the same amount 316 00:14:18,166 --> 00:14:19,366 Speaker 1: out of like veggie 317 00:14:19,382 --> 00:14:22,652 Speaker 1: and like non meat products, 318 00:14:22,662 --> 00:14:23,722 Speaker 2: they 319 00:14:23,732 --> 00:14:27,052 Speaker 1: started doing that and they realized that, you know, there 320 00:14:27,052 --> 00:14:31,092 Speaker 1: was many like benefits that they achieved. I think they 321 00:14:31,092 --> 00:14:37,512 Speaker 1: felt healthier. They felt, you know, um more productive I've heard. Okay, yeah, 322 00:14:37,512 --> 00:14:41,062 Speaker 1: I mean all the health benefits that you just mentioned personally. 323 00:14:41,072 --> 00:14:41,540 Speaker 1: I 324 00:14:41,750 --> 00:14:44,770 Speaker 1: I'm actually not the biggest fan of meat. I love 325 00:14:44,770 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 1: carbs and like veggies more. Okay, so will I go 326 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 1: full vegan or vegetarian? I don't know. But is it possible? Yeah, 327 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:56,620 Speaker 1: I wouldn't say complete no, because I'm not like the 328 00:14:56,620 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 1: biggest fan of, you know, all those red meats and 329 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:03,410 Speaker 2: stuff, The complete opposite. I love my meat, you know, 330 00:15:03,410 --> 00:15:06,910 Speaker 2: I love my korean barbecue, I love my beef stew 331 00:15:06,923 --> 00:15:10,003 Speaker 2: news. Chicken rice. 332 00:15:10,013 --> 00:15:11,843 Speaker 1: The one thing I cannot compromise on right 333 00:15:11,853 --> 00:15:12,913 Speaker 2: is right 334 00:15:12,923 --> 00:15:16,133 Speaker 1: because that's a animal by products. So as a vegan, 335 00:15:16,133 --> 00:15:20,563 Speaker 1: you can't eat eggs as well. Yes, but eggs like 336 00:15:21,393 --> 00:15:25,373 Speaker 1: sunny side up curl. Actually the other thing that I 337 00:15:25,373 --> 00:15:27,383 Speaker 1: will not be able to give up is cheese. I 338 00:15:27,393 --> 00:15:31,253 Speaker 1: know they're like vegan cheese and stuff. Okay, cheese. But 339 00:15:31,253 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 2: if it's the same thing, 340 00:15:32,096 --> 00:15:35,126 Speaker 2: nobody told you this cheeses, vegan, you try, you can 341 00:15:35,126 --> 00:15:35,546 Speaker 2: tell the 342 00:15:35,556 --> 00:15:38,986 Speaker 1: Last two years we all went together, we were searching 343 00:15:38,996 --> 00:15:41,456 Speaker 1: for places to eat. You remember this? We were searching 344 00:15:41,466 --> 00:15:44,516 Speaker 1: for places to eat and then someone found a place 345 00:15:44,526 --> 00:15:48,906 Speaker 1: and say, Hey, the rating very high 4.7 or 4.8. Okay, okay. 346 00:15:48,916 --> 00:15:51,126 Speaker 1: So we all went, so we had a whole meal, 347 00:15:51,136 --> 00:15:57,266 Speaker 1: whole meal this after the Mac and cheese. Everything. Okay. 348 00:15:57,510 --> 00:16:00,130 Speaker 1: This was before we went to 349 00:16:01,230 --> 00:16:03,050 Speaker 2: left. Oh 350 00:16:03,060 --> 00:16:05,310 Speaker 1: yes. With budget 351 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 1: We had a whole as well and then we were like, 352 00:16:08,810 --> 00:16:13,670 Speaker 1: it's nice but it's not like 4.89. Yeah, we were like, 353 00:16:13,870 --> 00:16:16,300 Speaker 1: and she's a bit interesting. Okay. And then someone went 354 00:16:16,300 --> 00:16:20,070 Speaker 1: to the washroom, yes, and passed a poster and came 355 00:16:20,070 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 1: back and said, guys, it's a vegan restaurant. We didn't 356 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 1: even know, I don't 357 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:26,180 Speaker 2: know. Oh my gosh. 358 00:16:26,190 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 1: You know 359 00:16:26,930 --> 00:16:29,300 Speaker 2: that you must not have been very impressive because I 360 00:16:29,300 --> 00:16:29,530 Speaker 2: don't 361 00:16:29,530 --> 00:16:30,770 Speaker 1: have it. 362 00:16:32,010 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 2: I remember the bill though pretty high. 363 00:16:34,410 --> 00:16:38,140 Speaker 1: Exactly. None of us really even knew it was a 364 00:16:38,140 --> 00:16:40,130 Speaker 1: vegan restaurant until after the fact. 365 00:16:40,140 --> 00:16:45,470 Speaker 2: But baby steps. Baby steps according to George Jacobs. Okay. 366 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 2: He's the president of this vegetarian society in Singapore. So 367 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:52,930 Speaker 2: he commented changed seldom feels easy, but putting more plants 368 00:16:52,930 --> 00:16:56,150 Speaker 2: on our plate just feels right according to him. You 369 00:16:56,150 --> 00:16:56,900 Speaker 2: don't have to go camp 370 00:16:56,910 --> 00:16:59,700 Speaker 2: completely vegetarian or vegan to go green. You just need 371 00:16:59,700 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 2: more plants and less meat on your plate. 372 00:17:02,730 --> 00:17:03,770 Speaker 1: I do that, I could do 373 00:17:03,770 --> 00:17:06,880 Speaker 2: that baby steps, you can achieve that. So he also 374 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:10,939 Speaker 2: shared this term called flexitarian. L E X I T 375 00:17:10,940 --> 00:17:14,060 Speaker 2: A R I N. So it actually represents another stop 376 00:17:14,070 --> 00:17:17,310 Speaker 2: along the diet continuum. So this group, they usually eat 377 00:17:17,310 --> 00:17:20,700 Speaker 2: plant based meals, but not always, for instance, every sunday, 378 00:17:20,710 --> 00:17:21,810 Speaker 2: you can still go back to, 379 00:17:21,820 --> 00:17:24,750 Speaker 2: you know, your usual diet, whatever. You love to eat 380 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:28,070 Speaker 2: your meat and stuff, but you try to at least 381 00:17:28,070 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 2: have more meals every day that has more plants. 382 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:32,010 Speaker 1: Right? So 383 00:17:32,020 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 2: here's a tip for our harsh listeners if you like 384 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:36,930 Speaker 2: to go on a vegetarian or vegan lifestyle 385 00:17:36,940 --> 00:17:38,020 Speaker 1: flexitarian. 386 00:17:38,030 --> 00:17:40,790 Speaker 2: This tip is actually provided by one of our listeners. 387 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:45,500 Speaker 1: It was his idea to have this episode because she's 388 00:17:45,500 --> 00:17:46,100 Speaker 1: a vegan. 389 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:48,189 Speaker 1: Thanks 390 00:17:48,190 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 2: For telling us and sharing with us all the good stuff. 391 00:17:50,570 --> 00:17:52,430 Speaker 2: So who says if you want to try to go 392 00:17:52,430 --> 00:17:55,340 Speaker 2: vegan or vegetarian, first of all, slowly reduce your meat 393 00:17:55,350 --> 00:17:59,930 Speaker 2: intake and take 1-6 months to make the full change. 394 00:17:59,930 --> 00:18:01,959 Speaker 1: You can't just quit cold turkey because your body will 395 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:04,750 Speaker 1: be in shock, you know, and I think it's always 396 00:18:04,750 --> 00:18:07,490 Speaker 1: nicer when you have that option, you know, like if 397 00:18:07,490 --> 00:18:09,830 Speaker 1: I really feel like, okay, I'll have a little bit, 398 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:09,970 Speaker 1: you 399 00:18:09,970 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 2: know, 400 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:13,929 Speaker 2: So says after stopping me, the first three months will 401 00:18:13,930 --> 00:18:16,869 Speaker 2: be super tough and the fourth to six months will 402 00:18:16,869 --> 00:18:20,670 Speaker 2: be yourself questioning why am I doing this? Why did 403 00:18:20,670 --> 00:18:22,990 Speaker 2: I choose this path? So it has to be strong 404 00:18:22,990 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 2: to pull you through. So you have to have a 405 00:18:24,609 --> 00:18:27,700 Speaker 2: good support system. And the seventh to the 12 months 406 00:18:27,710 --> 00:18:30,640 Speaker 2: is getting used to things right? One year in your 407 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:32,710 Speaker 2: more or less settled, but keep tweaking the diet and 408 00:18:32,710 --> 00:18:35,250 Speaker 2: lifestyle to find what works better for you. Like what 409 00:18:35,250 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 2: jimmy mentioned, I think don't ever go cold turkey step 410 00:18:38,690 --> 00:18:39,449 Speaker 2: by step, 411 00:18:39,460 --> 00:18:42,420 Speaker 2: get your body and your mind used to that fact, 412 00:18:42,430 --> 00:18:45,189 Speaker 1: that's true. But that being said, you know, being vegan 413 00:18:45,190 --> 00:18:47,869 Speaker 1: or vegetarian is not for everyone. Some people with health 414 00:18:47,869 --> 00:18:51,180 Speaker 1: concerns might just need, you know, protein in the form 415 00:18:51,180 --> 00:18:53,179 Speaker 1: of meat. But there are other ways that you can 416 00:18:53,180 --> 00:18:55,689 Speaker 1: make more environmentally friendly choices when it comes to the 417 00:18:55,690 --> 00:19:00,220 Speaker 1: food you consume. So some ways to eat more sustainably. Okay, 418 00:19:00,230 --> 00:19:03,179 Speaker 1: opting for more greens and less meat. We've talked about that, 419 00:19:03,190 --> 00:19:05,540 Speaker 1: avoiding highly processed food. 420 00:19:05,550 --> 00:19:07,119 Speaker 2: A lot of sodium 421 00:19:07,130 --> 00:19:08,050 Speaker 1: spam. 422 00:19:08,070 --> 00:19:17,030 Speaker 1: Yeah, my spicy nuggets. No more, no more choosing whole grain. 423 00:19:17,030 --> 00:19:20,100 Speaker 1: So I didn't know this, but apparently, let me read 424 00:19:20,100 --> 00:19:24,070 Speaker 1: this to you guys. Whole grain foods require significantly less 425 00:19:24,070 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 1: water than just about any other food we consume in 426 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:28,310 Speaker 1: order to make or to farm it. 427 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 2: I never knew that. So 428 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:31,429 Speaker 1: it's a very, very big deal when it comes to 429 00:19:31,430 --> 00:19:36,690 Speaker 1: climate change, resilience and sustainability. Right? Also reducing food packaging, 430 00:19:36,850 --> 00:19:39,330 Speaker 1: let's see if you go to from a hawker center, 431 00:19:39,340 --> 00:19:40,410 Speaker 1: you can bring your own tap 432 00:19:40,410 --> 00:19:41,790 Speaker 2: away and 433 00:19:41,790 --> 00:19:42,790 Speaker 1: save money to 434 00:19:42,790 --> 00:19:46,260 Speaker 2: On the plastic. They charge like 20 cents for the container. Right, 435 00:19:46,270 --> 00:19:48,690 Speaker 2: that's true. Well, I used to bring my own tupperware, 436 00:19:48,690 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 2: I am guilty. I should be doing this more often. 437 00:19:52,090 --> 00:19:55,180 Speaker 2: Sometimes we just give in to the convenience of it all. 438 00:19:55,180 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 2: You know like 20 cents. Okay, we just pay and 439 00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:59,690 Speaker 2: then after we eat, we just throw away but we 440 00:19:59,690 --> 00:20:03,340 Speaker 2: have to be more conscious of the consequences. You can 441 00:20:03,340 --> 00:20:04,150 Speaker 2: also limit your number 442 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 2: grocery trips. Um this works in terms of reducing your 443 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 2: carbon footprint. So for example if you go to the 444 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:13,090 Speaker 2: grocery store every day you drive or you take the bus, 445 00:20:13,090 --> 00:20:16,220 Speaker 2: whatever there's carbon footprint, right? But if you go once 446 00:20:16,220 --> 00:20:18,590 Speaker 2: a week and just stock up for the entire week, 447 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:20,179 Speaker 2: then you just have to make one trip. 448 00:20:20,190 --> 00:20:23,429 Speaker 1: But when you fart you release methane, right? When you 449 00:20:23,430 --> 00:20:25,400 Speaker 1: walk to the grocery store, you keep fighting, then that's 450 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:25,910 Speaker 1: not so good. 451 00:20:25,910 --> 00:20:27,119 Speaker 2: Also, so keep your 452 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:29,020 Speaker 1: farts in, I'm sorry, do 453 00:20:29,020 --> 00:20:31,460 Speaker 2: you keep fighting when you walk now? We know. 454 00:20:32,450 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 2: So we mentioned is extremely difficult and at times like 455 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 2: it's really impossible to maintain 100% sustainable lifestyle, it doesn't 456 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:43,200 Speaker 2: have to be expensive, but it does involve more work 457 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 2: at times. Do you guys think that our current generation 458 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:49,150 Speaker 2: is doing our best to maintain a more sustainable lifestyle 459 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:52,090 Speaker 2: or with the introduction of brands like Xin H and 460 00:20:52,090 --> 00:20:57,129 Speaker 2: M Zara tao bao, you name it, are we giving 461 00:20:57,130 --> 00:21:00,900 Speaker 2: in to this whole, like not sustainable lifestyle? I 462 00:21:00,900 --> 00:21:02,229 Speaker 1: think we're aware, 463 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:05,740 Speaker 1: okay, I think many are aware and many try but 464 00:21:05,740 --> 00:21:08,449 Speaker 1: I think there's always that like, am I willing to 465 00:21:08,450 --> 00:21:11,369 Speaker 1: give up my convenience for it? You know? And I 466 00:21:11,369 --> 00:21:14,929 Speaker 1: think sometimes also people feel like, oh, you know, just 467 00:21:14,930 --> 00:21:17,190 Speaker 1: one car, right, what's that going to do anyway? You know, 468 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 1: I'm just one in seven million Singapore. I'm just one 469 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:21,290 Speaker 1: of eight billion in the world, you know, what can 470 00:21:21,290 --> 00:21:24,060 Speaker 1: you really do? Right? But I think it's really just 471 00:21:24,060 --> 00:21:26,260 Speaker 1: to tweak that a little bit that even if it's 472 00:21:26,260 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 1: like tiny you're helping actually. I see quite a number 473 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:31,690 Speaker 1: of people in the younger 474 00:21:32,030 --> 00:21:35,500 Speaker 1: like 10 years younger than us thrift ng a lot 475 00:21:35,510 --> 00:21:38,379 Speaker 1: drifting for clothes. And personally I love drifting like when 476 00:21:38,380 --> 00:21:40,400 Speaker 1: we went to early last year I bought a pair 477 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 1: of boots that were like $10 and I went into 478 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:47,160 Speaker 1: this day and I found this like opening ceremony jacket 479 00:21:47,170 --> 00:21:50,120 Speaker 1: which will retail for like what? 3 $400. It was 480 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:50,770 Speaker 1: like 80 481 00:21:50,770 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 2: bucks. 482 00:21:51,570 --> 00:21:55,670 Speaker 1: So thrift ng is really a trend that's happening now, 483 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:57,939 Speaker 1: will it stay or is it just a fat, I 484 00:21:57,940 --> 00:22:00,980 Speaker 1: can't really speak to that. But I guess with every 485 00:22:00,980 --> 00:22:01,790 Speaker 1: small step it help. 486 00:22:01,810 --> 00:22:03,810 Speaker 2: Right? And I just want to talk a bit about 487 00:22:03,810 --> 00:22:06,870 Speaker 2: the brand refresh if I didn't get it right. That's 488 00:22:06,869 --> 00:22:09,790 Speaker 2: the whole like twisting shop. They have like online platforms, 489 00:22:09,790 --> 00:22:11,460 Speaker 2: they have physical source as well. I'm not so sure 490 00:22:11,460 --> 00:22:14,190 Speaker 2: about that, but a lot of people put their stuff 491 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:16,830 Speaker 2: up there and sell it at a low cost and 492 00:22:16,830 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 2: then people who need them can just buy it. So 493 00:22:19,609 --> 00:22:23,399 Speaker 2: that's great. Um is it a little too late? I 494 00:22:23,410 --> 00:22:25,629 Speaker 2: don't know, I cannot speak for that, but if we 495 00:22:25,630 --> 00:22:28,100 Speaker 2: don't take action now then it definitely will be too 496 00:22:28,100 --> 00:22:28,429 Speaker 2: late 497 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:30,710 Speaker 1: correct. And I think at the start of last year, 498 00:22:30,710 --> 00:22:31,590 Speaker 1: all of us did 499 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:37,580 Speaker 1: a green program and blend. Yes, right. And um in 500 00:22:37,580 --> 00:22:40,540 Speaker 1: my episode actually I was horrified when I learned that 501 00:22:40,550 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 1: Singapore's landfill is gonna be full in the next like 502 00:22:43,250 --> 00:22:45,990 Speaker 1: less than 15 years. Oh my gosh! Well then if 503 00:22:45,990 --> 00:22:48,220 Speaker 1: you guys don't make a change now, all our homes 504 00:22:48,220 --> 00:22:50,450 Speaker 1: are going to be filled with trash. Oh no, 505 00:22:52,180 --> 00:22:53,030 Speaker 2: but 506 00:22:53,050 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 1: apart from like going green or eating less meat, there 507 00:22:55,570 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 1: are other ways to be sustainable. 508 00:22:57,250 --> 00:22:59,850 Speaker 2: So for my episode of Green Plan, we actually talked 509 00:22:59,850 --> 00:23:01,379 Speaker 2: about hybrid vehicles. 510 00:23:01,390 --> 00:23:02,010 Speaker 1: I think that's a 511 00:23:02,010 --> 00:23:04,390 Speaker 2: Very good way as well because you lower the fuel 512 00:23:04,390 --> 00:23:07,149 Speaker 2: consumption electric cars, right? We have a goal that we 513 00:23:07,150 --> 00:23:10,050 Speaker 2: want to hit by 2030 if I'm not wrong, Singapore. 514 00:23:10,060 --> 00:23:12,750 Speaker 2: So that can be one way to go about doing things. 515 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:17,439 Speaker 1: of course reusable cutlery, tupperware, bringing your own containers, your 516 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 1: own shopping bags. Yes. Your own shopping bags. I think 517 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:23,460 Speaker 1: all those count as well. And using less paper like 518 00:23:23,470 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 1: we go digital here we start 519 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:28,540 Speaker 2: printing stuff and little people still have the physical name cards. 520 00:23:28,550 --> 00:23:31,169 Speaker 2: When I go to some business events. A lot 521 00:23:31,180 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 2: people still hand out name cuts. But I also feel 522 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:37,850 Speaker 2: what's more effective and convenient ways to just exchange numbers 523 00:23:37,859 --> 00:23:40,159 Speaker 1: then digital ones as well. We can just stand there. 524 00:23:40,210 --> 00:23:43,830 Speaker 1: You are. Yeah, that's right, that's right, reducing your energy consumption. 525 00:23:43,830 --> 00:23:46,660 Speaker 1: So in my episode, green plan. Actually I learned that 526 00:23:46,670 --> 00:23:48,630 Speaker 1: if let's say like you plug in your stuff into 527 00:23:48,630 --> 00:23:51,780 Speaker 1: the switch, right? Even if you unplug your charger from 528 00:23:51,790 --> 00:23:54,010 Speaker 1: your laptop or your phone. But the switch is still on, 529 00:23:54,020 --> 00:23:56,850 Speaker 1: there's something called phantom power. It still eats up power 530 00:23:56,859 --> 00:23:58,530 Speaker 1: so when you leave your house you have to turn 531 00:23:58,530 --> 00:24:00,460 Speaker 1: off every single switch that you have 532 00:24:00,460 --> 00:24:00,970 Speaker 2: on 533 00:24:01,700 --> 00:24:03,570 Speaker 1: because it still consumes energy. 534 00:24:03,580 --> 00:24:05,990 Speaker 2: So phantom power just takes up less power but it 535 00:24:05,990 --> 00:24:06,290 Speaker 2: still 536 00:24:06,609 --> 00:24:08,090 Speaker 1: it still eats up power 537 00:24:08,100 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 2: and that will contribute to our electricity bills as well. 538 00:24:10,970 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 1: Yes. Absolutely 539 00:24:12,090 --> 00:24:17,590 Speaker 2: wow sharing use green commute like carpooling. We have grabbed 540 00:24:17,590 --> 00:24:20,270 Speaker 2: each if you have to drive we have blue S. G. 541 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:24,410 Speaker 2: The shareable cars, public transport. Our busses. Our M. R. T. 542 00:24:24,410 --> 00:24:28,550 Speaker 2: Is the new like upper Thompson east coast line. Tl 543 00:24:28,550 --> 00:24:28,910 Speaker 2: right right. 544 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:32,010 Speaker 2: The Thompson east Coast line so convenient. Just takes what 545 00:24:32,010 --> 00:24:35,210 Speaker 2: 10 minutes to get from Woodlands to orchard. Really. Super convenient. 546 00:24:35,210 --> 00:24:36,200 Speaker 2: I think so if I'm not wrong 547 00:24:36,210 --> 00:24:39,780 Speaker 1: or you know even cutting unnecessary travel to our bosses, 548 00:24:39,790 --> 00:24:41,869 Speaker 1: if it can be a zoom meeting, let's do it 549 00:24:41,869 --> 00:24:44,730 Speaker 1: on zoom. It takes less energy that we all travel 550 00:24:44,730 --> 00:24:45,470 Speaker 1: to the office. 551 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:46,870 Speaker 2: That is very true. 552 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:50,350 Speaker 1: Actually write what I'm really impressed about is that we 553 00:24:50,350 --> 00:24:53,350 Speaker 1: don't do very much in Singapore but in certain countries 554 00:24:53,350 --> 00:24:56,119 Speaker 1: like Korea for example they separate their trash 555 00:24:56,140 --> 00:24:59,479 Speaker 1: and you get fined if you don't know when we 556 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:01,439 Speaker 1: traveled there. I was like I don't know what to 557 00:25:01,450 --> 00:25:06,020 Speaker 1: do with the trash correct because they separate everything into 558 00:25:06,020 --> 00:25:09,950 Speaker 1: like trash trash and recyclables and everybody does it then, 559 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,140 Speaker 1: expert at it. Like you don't do it, you get fined, 560 00:25:12,150 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 1: you don't throw properly. I want to come and like 561 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,430 Speaker 2: hello and hello? 562 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:19,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, my 563 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 2: auntie just went to Perth and she came back telling 564 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,350 Speaker 2: us how impressed she was by the rest. 565 00:25:23,580 --> 00:25:26,639 Speaker 2: They're like not just the dustbins outside, even in their 566 00:25:26,650 --> 00:25:30,200 Speaker 2: own homes, they keep it very clear what our recyclables, 567 00:25:30,210 --> 00:25:32,580 Speaker 2: what can be. I don't know what you call it. 568 00:25:32,580 --> 00:25:35,570 Speaker 2: Like we use some of the ways the food ways 569 00:25:35,570 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 2: you can go into your plant as fertilizers, 570 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 1: right? 571 00:25:38,530 --> 00:25:42,889 Speaker 2: And what are actually trash trash. So they really categorize 572 00:25:42,890 --> 00:25:46,270 Speaker 2: their trash and I'm like, oh gosh, we should learn that. Actually. 573 00:25:46,270 --> 00:25:49,189 Speaker 2: Should we should, okay before we wrap up this episode, 574 00:25:49,190 --> 00:25:50,580 Speaker 2: any final words to our listeners, 575 00:25:50,930 --> 00:25:53,640 Speaker 1: do your best, every small step counts. You don't have to, 576 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,610 Speaker 1: you know, overnight become a vegan or stop using plastic altogether, 577 00:25:56,619 --> 00:26:00,040 Speaker 1: but just be more aware of the little steps you 578 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:03,020 Speaker 1: can take whenever you can, I think just make the 579 00:26:03,030 --> 00:26:05,830 Speaker 1: conscious effort and decision to do something about it. 580 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:07,370 Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like you 581 00:26:07,380 --> 00:26:10,070 Speaker 2: don't have to feel bad about yourself if you cannot 582 00:26:10,070 --> 00:26:12,180 Speaker 2: be sustainable for like a day or two, you know, 583 00:26:12,180 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 2: it's okay, we all try, but whenever we can just 584 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,140 Speaker 2: put in the effort and I'm sure our mother Earth 585 00:26:18,140 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 2: will fill it okay, and you'll feel better about yourself 586 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:21,689 Speaker 2: as well. Okay with that. Thank you so much for 587 00:26:21,690 --> 00:26:23,550 Speaker 2: tuning into this episode of clarity's 588 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:24,510 Speaker 1: guy. 589 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:28,129 Speaker 2: Don't forget to follow our instagram at its clarity dot com. 590 00:26:28,140 --> 00:26:30,170 Speaker 1: That's right. You can listen to us and Spotify me, 591 00:26:30,170 --> 00:26:34,470 Speaker 1: Listen Apple podcast, turn on the notifications. That's right. Also, 592 00:26:34,470 --> 00:26:36,500 Speaker 1: you can catch us on Youtube and look at us 593 00:26:36,500 --> 00:26:39,160 Speaker 1: in our white outfits to celebrate the new year. 594 00:26:40,170 --> 00:26:43,260 Speaker 1: Happy New Year. I'm hazel Missouri. I'm Jermaine. Have a 595 00:26:43,260 --> 00:26:44,220 Speaker 1: great 2023. 596 00:26:45,410 --> 00:26:45,890 Speaker 1: Bye!