1 00:00:02,849 --> 00:00:05,099 Speaker 1: You're listening to a CNA podcast. 2 00:00:10,470 --> 00:00:13,340 Speaker 1: Hi guys, I'm Teresa Tang. As a kid growing up 3 00:00:13,340 --> 00:00:16,149 Speaker 1: in the 90s, my parents nixed the idea of having 4 00:00:16,149 --> 00:00:19,669 Speaker 1: any pets that had fur. Instead, this was the next 5 00:00:19,670 --> 00:00:20,378 Speaker 1: best thing. 6 00:00:20,709 --> 00:00:24,669 Speaker 2: Tamagotchi, the original virtual reality pen. Your care determines the 7 00:00:24,670 --> 00:00:25,989 Speaker 2: pets you get from Bandi. 8 00:00:26,549 --> 00:00:29,350 Speaker 1: A pretend pet, one that I could feed, play with, 9 00:00:29,389 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 1: and watch grow. Fast forward. 10 00:00:31,905 --> 00:00:35,034 Speaker 1: Three decades and a similar trend has emerged in China. 11 00:00:35,165 --> 00:00:39,365 Speaker 1: But instead of a virtual reality pet, think mango seed. 12 00:00:39,473 --> 00:00:43,404 Speaker 1: Think toothpaste residue in your sink. I'm not making this up. 13 00:00:43,604 --> 00:00:46,805 Speaker 1: China correspondent Melody Chan joins me today, and we're going 14 00:00:46,805 --> 00:00:50,595 Speaker 1: to chat about how these emotional support pets are helping 15 00:00:50,595 --> 00:00:54,685 Speaker 1: to alleviate stress among China's youth. Hi, Melody, welcome to 16 00:00:54,685 --> 00:00:56,965 Speaker 1: the show. So nice to have you on. Hi Theresa, 17 00:00:57,084 --> 00:00:57,924 Speaker 1: thanks for having me. 18 00:00:58,459 --> 00:01:00,549 Speaker 1: So I got this pitch from your editor and I 19 00:01:00,549 --> 00:01:02,900 Speaker 1: have to say when I shared it with the podcast team, 20 00:01:03,189 --> 00:01:07,790 Speaker 1: you can imagine the reaction, shock, laughter, disbelief. I want 21 00:01:07,790 --> 00:01:10,789 Speaker 1: to know what went through your mind when you first 22 00:01:10,790 --> 00:01:13,589 Speaker 1: discovered that people were doing this. Yes, so the first 23 00:01:13,589 --> 00:01:16,589 Speaker 1: time I came across this strange pets, it was people 24 00:01:16,589 --> 00:01:19,589 Speaker 1: raising mango seeds and even rocks. So 25 00:01:19,830 --> 00:01:22,230 Speaker 1: Definitely struck me as odd, but I figured they were 26 00:01:22,230 --> 00:01:26,339 Speaker 1: just troll posts on the Chinese social media platforms and 27 00:01:26,339 --> 00:01:28,899 Speaker 1: I've been noticing this quirky trends for a while, but 28 00:01:28,900 --> 00:01:31,819 Speaker 1: I never really thought much of them until I saw 29 00:01:31,819 --> 00:01:36,430 Speaker 1: something recently that really made me pause. People were raising toothpaste. 30 00:01:37,949 --> 00:01:41,059 Speaker 1: Yes, you heard that right. So it's the toothpaste residue 31 00:01:41,059 --> 00:01:42,940 Speaker 1: that you see in your sink if you are not 32 00:01:42,940 --> 00:01:45,779 Speaker 1: careful brushing your teeth in the morning. So I went 33 00:01:45,779 --> 00:01:48,349 Speaker 1: on to do more research and I found out there 34 00:01:48,349 --> 00:01:52,260 Speaker 1: are more similar trends. People were raising yeast. The yeast 35 00:01:52,260 --> 00:01:55,739 Speaker 1: started to use to make sourdough bread and that's when 36 00:01:55,739 --> 00:01:58,739 Speaker 1: it clicked. It felt like it's not a one-off internet trend. 37 00:01:58,779 --> 00:02:02,150 Speaker 1: It was catching on with the youth in China, especially 38 00:02:02,150 --> 00:02:02,860 Speaker 1: the Gen Z. 39 00:02:03,139 --> 00:02:05,449 Speaker 1: And they told me that there was something deeper going 40 00:02:05,449 --> 00:02:09,729 Speaker 1: on there. I've mentioned some of the unconventional pets that 41 00:02:09,729 --> 00:02:12,649 Speaker 1: people are raising, right? So the mango seeds, a blob 42 00:02:12,649 --> 00:02:15,529 Speaker 1: of toothpaste in the sink. I don't even understand how 43 00:02:15,529 --> 00:02:18,729 Speaker 1: that works. Uh, can you explain how do you raise 44 00:02:18,729 --> 00:02:21,690 Speaker 1: and take care of toothpaste and what sort of other 45 00:02:21,690 --> 00:02:25,889 Speaker 1: things are young people treating as pets? Yes, it's a bit, right? 46 00:02:26,136 --> 00:02:30,195 Speaker 1: So people actually take good care of these weird pets. 47 00:02:30,356 --> 00:02:34,046 Speaker 1: So take mango seed for example. People call them mango 48 00:02:34,046 --> 00:02:37,996 Speaker 1: dogs here in China because in Mandarin for mango, it's 49 00:02:37,996 --> 00:02:41,796 Speaker 1: called Manguo. It sounds a bit like go, which means 50 00:02:41,796 --> 00:02:44,516 Speaker 1: dog in Chinese. So they combine the two words and 51 00:02:44,516 --> 00:02:47,674 Speaker 1: the final product of that mango seed looks a bit 52 00:02:47,675 --> 00:02:48,636 Speaker 1: like a pet dog. 53 00:02:49,042 --> 00:02:51,781 Speaker 1: So people will groom it, they comb the hair, and 54 00:02:51,781 --> 00:02:53,781 Speaker 1: they will pet it just like uh what you do 55 00:02:53,781 --> 00:02:57,462 Speaker 1: with a pet dog. So yes, and for toothpaste, people 56 00:02:57,462 --> 00:03:01,371 Speaker 1: are sharing photos of them, the leftover residue in the sink, 57 00:03:01,501 --> 00:03:04,772 Speaker 1: and they sort of make fun of the interaction with them, 58 00:03:05,022 --> 00:03:07,742 Speaker 1: especially when water is running through, they will say it's 59 00:03:07,742 --> 00:03:10,942 Speaker 1: going through a bath or serving, right, so that's why 60 00:03:10,942 --> 00:03:11,542 Speaker 1: they called it. 61 00:03:11,820 --> 00:03:15,149 Speaker 1: And um there are also some cheaper options, like a 62 00:03:15,149 --> 00:03:18,669 Speaker 1: lower commitment ones like a pet rock. So besides just 63 00:03:18,669 --> 00:03:21,710 Speaker 1: picking them up from the roadside, you can actually buy 64 00:03:21,710 --> 00:03:24,990 Speaker 1: them from the Chinese e-commerce platforms like Taobao. 65 00:03:25,330 --> 00:03:28,619 Speaker 1: And it's completed with a movable eye stickers and even 66 00:03:28,619 --> 00:03:32,179 Speaker 1: tiny baby strollers and um I found out that yeah, 67 00:03:32,339 --> 00:03:35,259 Speaker 1: one shop has actually sold over 1000 of them, so 68 00:03:35,259 --> 00:03:39,699 Speaker 1: it's actually quite popular. That's amazing, and I know you 69 00:03:39,699 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: reached out to one of these pet owners for your 70 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:44,729 Speaker 1: story and you want to ask what we're all wondering, 71 00:03:44,940 --> 00:03:49,020 Speaker 1: which is why, where does the satisfaction come from? What 72 00:03:49,020 --> 00:03:52,820 Speaker 1: did they tell you? Yes, so for the toothpaste residue 73 00:03:52,820 --> 00:03:53,490 Speaker 1: pet trend. 74 00:03:53,839 --> 00:03:57,100 Speaker 1: I actually went and found out that it went viral 75 00:03:57,100 --> 00:04:00,139 Speaker 1: thanks to this 23 year old woman from Jiangsu and 76 00:04:00,139 --> 00:04:02,820 Speaker 1: I managed to find her online and she shared her 77 00:04:02,820 --> 00:04:06,619 Speaker 1: story with me. So what happened was she accidentally left 78 00:04:06,619 --> 00:04:08,460 Speaker 1: a blob of toothpaste in her sink. 79 00:04:08,750 --> 00:04:11,460 Speaker 1: And when she came home from work, um, she thought 80 00:04:11,460 --> 00:04:14,699 Speaker 1: it looked oddly cute. So she took a photo of it, yes, 81 00:04:14,740 --> 00:04:17,738 Speaker 1: and she posted it on a popular social media platform 82 00:04:17,738 --> 00:04:20,700 Speaker 1: here called Xiaohongshu, and then she shared a sort of 83 00:04:20,700 --> 00:04:23,779 Speaker 1: a storyline with it. So they said that when water 84 00:04:23,779 --> 00:04:26,859 Speaker 1: is running through it, the skin would stay hydrated and 85 00:04:26,859 --> 00:04:29,738 Speaker 1: when the tap is turned on stronger, the toothpaste lob 86 00:04:29,738 --> 00:04:31,179 Speaker 1: is enjoying some surfing. 87 00:04:31,529 --> 00:04:36,709 Speaker 1: So, but it would shorten its lifespan. It's gonna wash away. Yeah, 88 00:04:36,980 --> 00:04:40,940 Speaker 1: so the post got over 95,000 likes and that after 89 00:04:40,940 --> 00:04:43,890 Speaker 1: that went viral, it inspired many others to follow. 90 00:04:44,579 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 1: So and for sourdough yeast, so it's actually the yeast 91 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:52,149 Speaker 1: starter or they call it Levon in French. It's a 92 00:04:52,149 --> 00:04:55,549 Speaker 1: mix of flour and water and it's allowed to ferment 93 00:04:55,549 --> 00:04:59,268 Speaker 1: with wild yeast and bacteria from the environment. So it's 94 00:04:59,269 --> 00:05:02,459 Speaker 1: no surprise that many of the pet parents are bakers. 95 00:05:02,910 --> 00:05:06,390 Speaker 1: So I, yeah, I spoke to one home baker named 96 00:05:06,390 --> 00:05:08,209 Speaker 1: Peach and she told me that 97 00:05:08,260 --> 00:05:12,600 Speaker 1: There's a quiet joy watching something grow because of your care, 98 00:05:12,890 --> 00:05:15,350 Speaker 1: because it's a living mix, so you have to fit 99 00:05:15,350 --> 00:05:18,369 Speaker 1: it regularly to keep it active. It's kind of like 100 00:05:18,369 --> 00:05:22,670 Speaker 1: a pet. And for her, it's an emotional outlet to 101 00:05:22,670 --> 00:05:26,130 Speaker 1: something that requires just the right amount of responsibility each 102 00:05:26,130 --> 00:05:29,209 Speaker 1: day to fit it and check in, but not so 103 00:05:29,209 --> 00:05:31,849 Speaker 1: much that it becomes stressful or overwhelming. 104 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 1: So, if you look closely to the starter, it's actually 105 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:39,350 Speaker 1: quite active, it will be moving and reacting to the stirring, 106 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:43,390 Speaker 1: and there's something really calming and kind of therapeutic about it. 107 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:47,238 Speaker 1: Let's dig deeper into the emotional value of this trend. 108 00:05:47,959 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 1: What does it say about us as a society today? 109 00:05:51,049 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 1: I mean, are we so devoid of real relationships or 110 00:05:54,970 --> 00:05:58,570 Speaker 1: fearful of responsibility that it's really come to this? Yes, 111 00:05:58,649 --> 00:06:02,089 Speaker 1: you're absolutely right. I think it really taps into something 112 00:06:02,089 --> 00:06:05,419 Speaker 1: deeper going on with the young people, especially Gen Z 113 00:06:05,420 --> 00:06:06,209 Speaker 1: in China. 114 00:06:06,619 --> 00:06:10,730 Speaker 1: So the pressure they are facing right now is pretty intense, um, 115 00:06:10,738 --> 00:06:15,700 Speaker 1: not just around career or housing, but also about social expectations, um, 116 00:06:15,738 --> 00:06:18,769 Speaker 1: family responsibilities, even just affording to leave. 117 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:22,529 Speaker 1: So there's a viral quote that's going around online in 118 00:06:22,529 --> 00:06:25,489 Speaker 1: China that kind of says it all. It goes, I'm 119 00:06:25,488 --> 00:06:28,209 Speaker 1: 30 years old, I don't have a house, I don't 120 00:06:28,209 --> 00:06:30,928 Speaker 1: have a car, I don't have a partner. My parents 121 00:06:30,928 --> 00:06:34,170 Speaker 1: are counting on me to retire and I'll probably need 122 00:06:34,170 --> 00:06:37,518 Speaker 1: a loan just to raise a kid. So yeah, it's 123 00:06:37,519 --> 00:06:39,410 Speaker 1: meant to be a joke, but for a lot of people, 124 00:06:39,450 --> 00:06:40,529 Speaker 1: it really hits home. 125 00:06:40,980 --> 00:06:44,190 Speaker 1: So raising something like a rock or mango pit isn't 126 00:06:44,190 --> 00:06:47,820 Speaker 1: just about being cute, it's also about having a small 127 00:06:47,820 --> 00:06:51,859 Speaker 1: manageable way to express care and creativity without the heavy 128 00:06:51,859 --> 00:06:55,660 Speaker 1: emotional or financial burden of say raising a real pet 129 00:06:55,660 --> 00:07:00,410 Speaker 1: or even thinking about kids. And I spoke to a psychologist, 130 00:07:00,660 --> 00:07:03,899 Speaker 1: so I spoke to Zhang Xin, a psychology professor from 131 00:07:03,899 --> 00:07:08,779 Speaker 1: Peking University. He told me that expressing emotions actually takes energy. 132 00:07:09,420 --> 00:07:12,980 Speaker 1: So it would drain your mental resource, but with these 133 00:07:12,980 --> 00:07:16,450 Speaker 1: weird pets, there's no emotional cost, so you don't have 134 00:07:16,450 --> 00:07:19,980 Speaker 1: to invest much or worry about getting hurt. So maybe 135 00:07:19,980 --> 00:07:24,820 Speaker 1: that's what makes it feel healing. Another psychologist, Dr. Qi 136 00:07:24,820 --> 00:07:28,510 Speaker 1: Jing from Hunan Second People's Hospital, described it as a 137 00:07:28,510 --> 00:07:31,190 Speaker 1: kind of emotional safety net, so it's a 138 00:07:31,269 --> 00:07:34,269 Speaker 1: Way to build routine and comfort in a fast moving, 139 00:07:34,549 --> 00:07:38,940 Speaker 1: sometimes isolating environment. So it might seem silly from the outside, 140 00:07:38,989 --> 00:07:41,910 Speaker 1: but many young people, it's about reclaiming a bit of 141 00:07:41,910 --> 00:07:44,459 Speaker 1: softness in the otherwise tough world. We can have a 142 00:07:44,459 --> 00:07:48,339 Speaker 1: listen to this young Chinese actress. Her name is Qiu Yi. 143 00:07:48,549 --> 00:07:51,829 Speaker 1: She's been raising a mango pit to relax and unwind 144 00:07:51,829 --> 00:07:52,989 Speaker 1: after her work stress. 145 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 1: The other day I saw a trending topic saying young 146 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 1: people raising mango pits are just messing around. Well, as 147 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 1: someone who's naturally a bit rebellious and always looking for 148 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:10,390 Speaker 1: an excuse to procrastinate, of course I had to try it. 149 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:15,070 Speaker 1: Trust me, if you've been unhappy at work, struggling to study, 150 00:08:15,239 --> 00:08:18,390 Speaker 1: or just went through a breakup and feel really down, 151 00:08:18,679 --> 00:08:20,149 Speaker 1: go buy a mango right now. 152 00:08:20,559 --> 00:08:26,100 Speaker 1: It's no secret China is facing a demographic crisis, aging population, 153 00:08:26,209 --> 00:08:30,630 Speaker 1: plus declining birth rate equals major challenges ahead. 154 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 1: In terms of the bigger picture, Melody, should Beijing be 155 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:37,618 Speaker 1: worried about this trend or this mindset? If young people 156 00:08:37,619 --> 00:08:41,710 Speaker 1: find solace in raising rocks instead of humans, that does 157 00:08:41,710 --> 00:08:45,460 Speaker 1: not bode well for the country's population problem, right? Yes, 158 00:08:45,630 --> 00:08:49,750 Speaker 1: this trend really connects to some bigger issues. So China's 159 00:08:49,750 --> 00:08:52,700 Speaker 1: population actually dropped for the third year in a row 160 00:08:52,700 --> 00:08:56,340 Speaker 1: in 2024 and the birth rate is pretty low, around 161 00:08:56,340 --> 00:08:59,819 Speaker 1: 6.77 births per 1000 people. 162 00:09:00,229 --> 00:09:02,449 Speaker 1: But at the same time, the number of pets is 163 00:09:02,450 --> 00:09:06,319 Speaker 1: booming and by 2030, there could be nearly twice as 164 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:09,809 Speaker 1: many pets as kids under 4, according to Goldman Sachs. 165 00:09:09,969 --> 00:09:13,530 Speaker 1: So while it might seem quirky, this shift shows that 166 00:09:13,530 --> 00:09:16,450 Speaker 1: many young people are rethinking what it means to build 167 00:09:16,450 --> 00:09:19,489 Speaker 1: a family or provide care. One white collar worker in 168 00:09:19,489 --> 00:09:20,900 Speaker 1: Shanghai told local media that 169 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:25,260 Speaker 1: She spends 30% of her income on her cat, not 170 00:09:25,260 --> 00:09:28,729 Speaker 1: because it's cheap, but because it helps her manage her anxiety. 171 00:09:28,820 --> 00:09:31,820 Speaker 1: And let me put it into context. So in 2023, 172 00:09:31,900 --> 00:09:36,260 Speaker 1: the average starting salary for graduates from top universities in 173 00:09:36,260 --> 00:09:40,859 Speaker 1: first year cities like Beijing and Shanghai was around 12,000 174 00:09:40,859 --> 00:09:41,599 Speaker 1: to 13. 175 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:46,590 Speaker 1: 100 ¥0. So that's around $2500 a month. But even 176 00:09:46,590 --> 00:09:50,340 Speaker 1: with those numbers, the cost of raising a child remains daunting. 177 00:09:50,590 --> 00:09:55,549 Speaker 1: So a report in 2024 from Yuhua Population Research found 178 00:09:55,549 --> 00:09:59,270 Speaker 1: that raising a child from the birth to age 17 179 00:09:59,270 --> 00:10:02,309 Speaker 1: in Shanghai cost just over ¥1 million. 180 00:10:02,820 --> 00:10:06,820 Speaker 1: So if you divide it over 17 years, that's ¥5000 181 00:10:06,820 --> 00:10:11,099 Speaker 1: a month. So add that to job insecurity and social pressure, 182 00:10:11,179 --> 00:10:13,659 Speaker 1: it's no surprise that many young people are stepping back 183 00:10:13,659 --> 00:10:17,460 Speaker 1: from traditional life paths and um the government is aware 184 00:10:17,460 --> 00:10:18,539 Speaker 1: of this shifts. 185 00:10:18,724 --> 00:10:22,265 Speaker 1: And we've seen new policies around housing, education, and even 186 00:10:22,265 --> 00:10:25,674 Speaker 1: subsidies for parents, but the mindset change, it's much harder 187 00:10:25,674 --> 00:10:29,835 Speaker 1: to reverse. So while mango peats and pet rocks might 188 00:10:29,835 --> 00:10:32,794 Speaker 1: look harmless, but actually points to a much bigger question 189 00:10:32,794 --> 00:10:36,074 Speaker 1: about where Chinese society is headed. Yeah, and that stress 190 00:10:36,075 --> 00:10:38,445 Speaker 1: is also not just particular to China. I think a 191 00:10:38,445 --> 00:10:40,424 Speaker 1: lot of youth in other countries feel it as well. 192 00:10:40,830 --> 00:10:43,340 Speaker 1: OK, before we go, Melody, I have to ask you, 193 00:10:43,510 --> 00:10:46,909 Speaker 1: did you get caught up in this trend? Have you 194 00:10:46,909 --> 00:10:51,789 Speaker 1: tried raising any unconventional pets? OK, so I didn't expect 195 00:10:51,789 --> 00:10:55,579 Speaker 1: to try any of this quirky pet trends myself, especially 196 00:10:55,580 --> 00:10:59,150 Speaker 1: since I'm still settling down into China. But as luck 197 00:10:59,150 --> 00:11:02,729 Speaker 1: would have it, I had a mango at home last night. Yeah. 198 00:11:03,549 --> 00:11:05,750 Speaker 1: So I was staring at the scene, I thought why 199 00:11:05,750 --> 00:11:08,270 Speaker 1: not give it a go. So just for the sake 200 00:11:08,270 --> 00:11:10,468 Speaker 1: of experimentation, right? So it wasn't. 201 00:11:10,602 --> 00:11:13,381 Speaker 1: Until I got my hands on that and I realized 202 00:11:13,381 --> 00:11:16,312 Speaker 1: it's actually not that easy. So there are some steps 203 00:11:16,312 --> 00:11:18,822 Speaker 1: you have to follow before you can truly own one. 204 00:11:19,033 --> 00:11:23,622 Speaker 1: So I followed one tutorial online and basically you have to, 205 00:11:23,631 --> 00:11:26,032 Speaker 1: after eating the mango, you have to wash the seeds, 206 00:11:26,432 --> 00:11:30,403 Speaker 1: soften the fiber with hair conditioner, blow dry it or 207 00:11:30,403 --> 00:11:31,593 Speaker 1: air dry it and. 208 00:11:31,785 --> 00:11:34,825 Speaker 1: Sometimes you have to paint it with colors or draw 209 00:11:34,825 --> 00:11:37,015 Speaker 1: little faces on it so that it looks like a pet. 210 00:11:37,145 --> 00:11:40,505 Speaker 1: So in case you're curious, here's a look at my 211 00:11:40,505 --> 00:11:46,305 Speaker 1: first mango pet. Oh. Yeah, but the fur turned out 212 00:11:46,306 --> 00:11:49,305 Speaker 1: to be pretty sparse, so maybe I think you need 213 00:11:49,306 --> 00:11:52,596 Speaker 1: to pick the right kind of mango for it to work. 214 00:11:53,219 --> 00:11:55,069 Speaker 1: So for people who can't see, it's a very flat 215 00:11:55,070 --> 00:11:57,419 Speaker 1: mango seed. It kind of looks like a gerbil, almost 216 00:11:57,419 --> 00:11:59,510 Speaker 1: like a hamster, the face that you've drawn on it. 217 00:11:59,960 --> 00:12:03,309 Speaker 1: Um yeah, the hair is looking a bit sad, but 218 00:12:03,309 --> 00:12:04,478 Speaker 1: great first try. 219 00:12:05,809 --> 00:12:09,449 Speaker 1: The experience really made me appreciate the charm behind this 220 00:12:09,450 --> 00:12:13,570 Speaker 1: strange little trends because one social media user that we've 221 00:12:13,570 --> 00:12:17,039 Speaker 1: used in our article said that there's something really healing 222 00:12:17,039 --> 00:12:19,849 Speaker 1: in being silly and it reminds her not to take 223 00:12:19,849 --> 00:12:23,890 Speaker 1: life too seriously. So that really struck a chord, especially 224 00:12:23,890 --> 00:12:26,809 Speaker 1: to my editorial team. So I think in the fast 225 00:12:26,809 --> 00:12:29,450 Speaker 1: paced society, I think this makes a lot of sense. 226 00:12:30,090 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: What a great assignment. You totally made my day today. 227 00:12:32,729 --> 00:12:35,849 Speaker 1: And thank you for showing me your pet mango pit, 228 00:12:36,450 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 1: the things you do for your job. 229 00:12:38,250 --> 00:12:41,079 Speaker 1: OK, so now that you've all heard everything about these 230 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:43,830 Speaker 1: peculiar pets, you probably want to see them as well. 231 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:47,750 Speaker 1: Just head to YouTube and CNA.asia to find Melody's report. 232 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:50,710 Speaker 1: You can find photos and all sorts of videos there 233 00:12:50,710 --> 00:12:53,598 Speaker 1: and a reminder as well. There are also TV episodes 234 00:12:53,599 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 1: of CNA Correspondent every Wednesday at 9:30 p.m. Singapore, Hong 235 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 1: Kong time. Thanks so much, Melody. Thank you, Larissa. And 236 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:03,919 Speaker 1: as always, thank you for your company. I'm Teresa Tang. 237 00:13:04,229 --> 00:13:07,419 Speaker 1: The team behind this week's episode is Sayain, Clara Ong, 238 00:13:07,500 --> 00:13:11,289 Speaker 1: Tiffany Ung, Juani Johari, and Craig Dale. See you next week.