1 00:00:00,140 --> 00:00:04,420 Speaker 1: the following audio presentation features mention of graphic imagery and 2 00:00:04,420 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 1: mature themes, listener discretion is advised 3 00:00:12,340 --> 00:00:17,430 Speaker 2: Aaron get away from her erin I yelled for Aaron 4 00:00:17,510 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 2: but he didn't hear me 5 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:21,259 Speaker 2: rather she 6 00:00:22,140 --> 00:00:22,760 Speaker 2: it 7 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:23,849 Speaker 2: dead. 8 00:00:25,739 --> 00:00:31,069 Speaker 2: She flew through the air and rushed towards me, knocked 9 00:00:31,070 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 2: me down. 10 00:00:31,940 --> 00:00:36,820 Speaker 2: This woman in the white dress, her face pale and gaunt, 11 00:00:36,830 --> 00:00:40,970 Speaker 2: her eyes red veiny, staring right into my soul. I 12 00:00:42,420 --> 00:00:47,699 Speaker 2: swear she began in gym closer. No I couldn't move. 13 00:00:47,710 --> 00:00:50,449 Speaker 2: I couldn't get back, I couldn't get out of the way. 14 00:00:51,540 --> 00:00:51,860 Speaker 2: Mm hmm. 15 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:55,420 Speaker 2: She raised her hands to my face. 16 00:00:56,340 --> 00:01:00,450 Speaker 2: She had these long dirty nails caked with dirt. 17 00:01:00,940 --> 00:01:01,140 Speaker 2: Yeah. 18 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 2: And then she dragged them slowly across my cheek 19 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 2: way and then just when I was expecting the worst, 20 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 2: she 21 00:01:18,940 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 2: turns away, floated towards the front door, her feet just 22 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 2: slightly above the ground. And sure 23 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:30,260 Speaker 2: left 24 00:01:31,940 --> 00:01:32,700 Speaker 2: officer trying. 25 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:34,250 Speaker 1: Officer chan 26 00:01:34,660 --> 00:01:35,459 Speaker 2: Aaron 27 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:38,860 Speaker 2: erin, is that you are you okay? Are you hurt? 28 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:42,149 Speaker 1: No, no I'm fine, I'm fine. What are you 29 00:01:42,150 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 2: doing here? What happened? 30 00:01:44,340 --> 00:01:45,860 Speaker 2: Did you see her? What 31 00:01:46,540 --> 00:01:49,860 Speaker 2: how what is that thing? 32 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:51,750 Speaker 2: That thing. 33 00:01:52,340 --> 00:01:54,350 Speaker 2: The woman in the white dress 34 00:01:54,740 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 2: she was floating, Aaron, how could she felt like that. 35 00:01:59,240 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 2: So 36 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:00,950 Speaker 2: you 37 00:02:01,340 --> 00:02:02,260 Speaker 2: you saw her? 38 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:03,350 Speaker 2: What? 39 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:08,959 Speaker 2: What the hell is going on? 40 00:02:09,540 --> 00:02:09,860 Speaker 2: Mm hmm 41 00:02:11,340 --> 00:02:12,060 Speaker 1: Officer. 42 00:02:12,790 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 1: That 43 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 1: that's a 44 00:02:16,340 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 1: that's plenty enough. 45 00:02:27,340 --> 00:02:31,420 Speaker 1: Welcome to After dark, a brand new horror audio drama 46 00:02:31,419 --> 00:02:35,930 Speaker 1: podcast brought to you by Mediacorp in our previous episode. 47 00:02:35,940 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 1: Officer sonia chang had been investigating the case of Aaron 48 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:43,630 Speaker 1: Wong and his bizarre wounds, believing him to be tormented 49 00:02:43,630 --> 00:02:46,859 Speaker 1: by some strange unexplained intruder. 50 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:50,690 Speaker 1: Her suspicions are confirmed as she rushes into erin's home 51 00:02:50,690 --> 00:02:53,590 Speaker 1: during the evening and comes face to face 52 00:02:53,940 --> 00:02:56,060 Speaker 1: with the supernatural. 53 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:09,260 Speaker 1: Okay Latina Pablo came back already. 54 00:03:09,740 --> 00:03:13,790 Speaker 2: Bloody hell these old houses damn difficult to maintain. Aaron 55 00:03:13,790 --> 00:03:17,050 Speaker 2: are you okay or not? Yeah 56 00:03:17,740 --> 00:03:21,609 Speaker 2: so officer chan you said the door was unlocked, you 57 00:03:21,610 --> 00:03:24,770 Speaker 2: came in and you saw Aaron walking down by himself 58 00:03:24,780 --> 00:03:27,919 Speaker 2: when Mr and Mrs Wong came down the stairs they 59 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:30,959 Speaker 2: found me and Aaron pretty shaken up on the floor. 60 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:31,950 Speaker 2: It 61 00:03:32,540 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 2: yes sir. Uh 62 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:35,410 Speaker 2: He was 63 00:03:36,540 --> 00:03:37,860 Speaker 1: I was sleepwalking 64 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:40,750 Speaker 1: officer trying to make sure I didn't hurt myself. 65 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:43,450 Speaker 2: I didn't think I could tell them what happened. 66 00:03:44,050 --> 00:03:45,460 Speaker 2: I mean at that point 67 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:48,260 Speaker 2: I wasn't even sure myself. 68 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:49,050 Speaker 2: Uh huh. 69 00:03:49,540 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 2: Sleepwalking boy. You gonna sleepwalk before me? How come? I 70 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 2: don't know what 71 00:03:53,670 --> 00:03:56,050 Speaker 1: I think it's a more recent thing. 72 00:03:56,740 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 1: Probably because of what's been happening 73 00:03:59,740 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 2: there. You are 74 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:03,839 Speaker 1: Okay? Okay make sure you bring up the next time 75 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:05,670 Speaker 1: he comes over here. Yes. 76 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 1: Uh huh. Okay okay go back to sleep. 77 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:09,350 Speaker 2: Okay 78 00:04:11,540 --> 00:04:14,060 Speaker 2: and that's for you officer jang I've got a million 79 00:04:14,060 --> 00:04:14,860 Speaker 2: questions for you. 80 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:17,460 Speaker 2: First thing first. Can you tell me what happened to 81 00:04:17,460 --> 00:04:18,450 Speaker 2: our dog Baxter? 82 00:04:19,339 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 2: Uh 83 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 2: I don't know Mr Wong when I arrived it was 84 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 2: already gone. I didn't see Baxter at all. 85 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:30,029 Speaker 2: Okay okay my lemon idea. Make sure you're thinking of 86 00:04:30,029 --> 00:04:31,050 Speaker 2: all these. Okay okay 87 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 2: next question 88 00:04:33,140 --> 00:04:36,140 Speaker 2: my game is low and with just now the power 89 00:04:36,150 --> 00:04:39,910 Speaker 2: outage it couldn't have opened. So officer let me ask you. 90 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:41,260 Speaker 2: How do you get it? 91 00:04:43,339 --> 00:04:43,549 Speaker 2: Okay? 92 00:04:44,740 --> 00:04:48,630 Speaker 2: I climbed in. Oh you climb in new job, I 93 00:04:48,630 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 2: get 94 00:04:49,339 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 2: Mhm 95 00:04:50,339 --> 00:04:52,650 Speaker 2: Yes sir. Like some burglar. Right. 96 00:04:53,140 --> 00:04:56,420 Speaker 2: I sir, I thought something bad had happened. I'm so sorry. 97 00:04:56,420 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 2: I only wanted to help. Help. Okay, Okay, 98 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:02,860 Speaker 2: so correct me if I'm wrong, 99 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:06,420 Speaker 2: You come to my house, you see the lights are out. 100 00:05:06,430 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 2: Uh you think there's something wrong? So you climb the 101 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 2: gate pass through my front door and that's when you 102 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:12,750 Speaker 2: felt right? 103 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, 104 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:16,460 Speaker 2: Yes sir. Officer john, 105 00:05:16,930 --> 00:05:17,650 Speaker 2: I'll ask you 106 00:05:18,339 --> 00:05:21,410 Speaker 2: how stupid do you think I am First you try 107 00:05:21,410 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 2: to take my son away then you go and visit 108 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:25,060 Speaker 2: him behind my back. 109 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:27,450 Speaker 2: Now you break into my house in the middle of 110 00:05:27,450 --> 00:05:30,029 Speaker 2: the night. Who the hell you think you are sir? 111 00:05:30,029 --> 00:05:32,550 Speaker 2: I only did it out of my obligation to protect 112 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:35,460 Speaker 2: you know what? Forget it, forget it. Okay, 113 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 2: I don't want to listen to your nonsense anymore. 114 00:05:38,940 --> 00:05:40,950 Speaker 2: You are finish searching, 115 00:05:41,339 --> 00:05:42,060 Speaker 2: finished 116 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:42,860 Speaker 2: me, 117 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:45,850 Speaker 2: You take it off all these and send to Roger 118 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:47,460 Speaker 2: who is Roger? 119 00:05:47,940 --> 00:05:49,950 Speaker 2: Oh the Minister, Yala. 120 00:05:50,540 --> 00:05:51,050 Speaker 2: Mhm 121 00:05:51,940 --> 00:05:56,040 Speaker 2: You don't like that. Just give you kimchi. 122 00:05:57,140 --> 00:05:59,060 Speaker 2: Sorry, Officer chan 123 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:00,839 Speaker 2: we see the battle. 124 00:06:14,540 --> 00:06:14,750 Speaker 2: Mhm 125 00:06:15,339 --> 00:06:15,849 Speaker 2: Oh 126 00:06:16,339 --> 00:06:16,549 Speaker 2: Mhm 127 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:17,650 Speaker 1: Yeah. 128 00:06:18,140 --> 00:06:18,349 Speaker 1: Mhm 129 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. 130 00:06:20,740 --> 00:06:21,160 Speaker 1: Okay. 131 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:21,849 Speaker 1: Mhm. 132 00:06:22,339 --> 00:06:22,549 Speaker 1: Okay. 133 00:06:23,740 --> 00:06:24,159 Speaker 1: Kiss it. 134 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 1: Okay. 135 00:06:26,140 --> 00:06:26,950 Speaker 1: I understand sir. 136 00:06:28,140 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 1: Hold on, 137 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:29,550 Speaker 1: come in 138 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 1: uh bus. I'll call you back later. 139 00:06:34,450 --> 00:06:35,860 Speaker 2: Uh china's here already. 140 00:06:36,540 --> 00:06:38,659 Speaker 2: J J. You asked for me? Yeah, 141 00:06:39,140 --> 00:06:42,160 Speaker 2: I just had a very interesting conversation with our boss 142 00:06:42,170 --> 00:06:45,570 Speaker 2: who told me that? apparently you broke into the wang's 143 00:06:45,570 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 2: house last night. Listen I can explain explain you define 144 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:52,290 Speaker 2: my orders john but I had to know you didn't, 145 00:06:52,300 --> 00:06:54,510 Speaker 2: I told you to just drop it and move on. 146 00:06:54,660 --> 00:06:57,140 Speaker 2: But not only did you not listen, you went back 147 00:06:57,140 --> 00:07:00,690 Speaker 2: there yourself and you created this giant mess that I 148 00:07:00,700 --> 00:07:03,650 Speaker 2: have to clean up. JJ please listen to me. I 149 00:07:03,650 --> 00:07:05,150 Speaker 2: found out what was after Aaron. 150 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 2: So sorry what did you say? I think I know 151 00:07:10,690 --> 00:07:12,260 Speaker 2: what attacked Aaron Wong. 152 00:07:12,940 --> 00:07:14,860 Speaker 2: Uh Okay 153 00:07:15,890 --> 00:07:19,660 Speaker 2: this better be good john it was something uhh 154 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:23,670 Speaker 2: something that Nicole ying did, who the heck is Nicole yang? 155 00:07:23,780 --> 00:07:27,090 Speaker 2: Nicole yang is the daughter of carrying. He was in 156 00:07:27,090 --> 00:07:29,890 Speaker 2: business with robert wang for a long time before falling 157 00:07:29,890 --> 00:07:33,470 Speaker 2: out recently because of their parents history. Aaron and Nicole 158 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:36,150 Speaker 2: grew up to be best friends all throughout primary and 159 00:07:36,150 --> 00:07:39,679 Speaker 2: secondary school. Then J. C. They were super super close 160 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:40,460 Speaker 2: and I think 161 00:07:40,540 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 2: I think they were also dating. 162 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:47,910 Speaker 2: Wait so this Nicole yang, she broke into their house 163 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 2: and hurt Aaron. Well not exactly she uh 164 00:07:53,740 --> 00:07:56,260 Speaker 2: I think she sent something after him. 165 00:07:57,340 --> 00:07:57,550 Speaker 2: Mhm. 166 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:02,860 Speaker 2: Okay. And what's their motive? I did research look 167 00:08:04,140 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 2: Nicole put up a blog post about having to right 168 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:10,950 Speaker 2: some wrongs to fix something that changed her life 169 00:08:11,340 --> 00:08:15,650 Speaker 2: and her family the yangs they're very well established across 170 00:08:15,650 --> 00:08:18,740 Speaker 2: a whole range of industries and they run a few 171 00:08:18,740 --> 00:08:21,260 Speaker 2: shops across the region that sells 172 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:27,230 Speaker 2: talisman talisman. Yeah talismans amulets statues, you know, things like 173 00:08:27,230 --> 00:08:30,250 Speaker 2: that and that was how their family got started in business. 174 00:08:30,260 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 2: I think they're quite well known for their spiritual work. 175 00:08:33,050 --> 00:08:36,890 Speaker 2: In fact carrying was even featured in this article about 176 00:08:36,890 --> 00:08:38,860 Speaker 2: the history of summoning spirits. 177 00:08:39,540 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 2: You're kidding. And after carrie fell out with robert, I 178 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:46,770 Speaker 2: think Nicole and erin's relationship soured and that's when Nicole 179 00:08:46,770 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 2: summon something to go after Aaron. 180 00:08:52,540 --> 00:08:57,850 Speaker 2: So where are they now? Well, according to immigration records, 181 00:08:57,860 --> 00:09:00,850 Speaker 2: the yangs are now residing in Canada. Okay, 182 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 2: so they're not here in the country 183 00:09:03,740 --> 00:09:06,950 Speaker 2: and yet somehow you think they have something to do 184 00:09:06,950 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 2: with all of this. Well, no, not them. It's Nicole. 185 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:14,589 Speaker 2: Nicole sent something after erin, she put banana tree sap 186 00:09:14,590 --> 00:09:17,140 Speaker 2: on his face and now he can see things. 187 00:09:18,140 --> 00:09:22,590 Speaker 2: I can see how ridiculous this sounds great for a 188 00:09:22,590 --> 00:09:26,420 Speaker 2: second there. I thought I was going crazy. Uh, john 189 00:09:26,429 --> 00:09:29,610 Speaker 2: what the heck are you talking about? I can't back this. 190 00:09:29,620 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 2: You know that right? You broke into a house, You 191 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:35,380 Speaker 2: defied instructions but we're about to crack case DJ the 192 00:09:35,380 --> 00:09:37,550 Speaker 2: case is already cracked, john 193 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:38,860 Speaker 2: it's Aaron 194 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 2: he's doing this to himself. Okay. Not some spirit or 195 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:46,300 Speaker 2: banana tree, whatever. I'm sorry, sonya, I can only report 196 00:09:46,300 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 2: the facts and the fact of the matter is that 197 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:52,450 Speaker 2: right now, things are not looking too good for you. 198 00:09:53,140 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 2: Do you understand? 199 00:09:55,940 --> 00:09:56,660 Speaker 2: Yes, 200 00:09:59,530 --> 00:10:00,650 Speaker 2: dismissed. 201 00:10:01,140 --> 00:10:01,340 Speaker 2: Yeah, 202 00:10:01,740 --> 00:10:04,630 Speaker 2: I don't know what they're gonna do to you. But 203 00:10:04,630 --> 00:10:11,459 Speaker 2: this is out of my hands now misconduct, defiance of 204 00:10:11,460 --> 00:10:17,620 Speaker 2: authority and possible burglary charges, that's what I get for caring. Right. 205 00:10:17,630 --> 00:10:21,510 Speaker 2: Certainly not the best way to climb the career letter. 206 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:24,630 Speaker 2: I was put on temporary suspension with no pay while 207 00:10:24,630 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 2: they were deciding what to do with me. 208 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 2: I couldn't go back to the station, couldn't access any 209 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:34,170 Speaker 2: of the databases or records and I definitely couldn't go 210 00:10:34,179 --> 00:10:35,660 Speaker 2: anywhere near 211 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:42,250 Speaker 2: the wang mention but call me stupid or stubborn. 212 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:45,850 Speaker 2: I just couldn't leave it like that. 213 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:49,030 Speaker 2: I had to find out more about that thing. That 214 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 2: thing that attacked me and Aaron pontianak. 215 00:10:55,540 --> 00:10:55,750 Speaker 2: Mhm. 216 00:10:58,340 --> 00:10:58,540 Speaker 2: Yeah. 217 00:10:59,640 --> 00:10:59,850 Speaker 2: Mhm. 218 00:11:05,940 --> 00:11:06,150 Speaker 2: Mhm. 219 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:10,060 Speaker 2: They're in a 220 00:11:10,740 --> 00:11:12,550 Speaker 2: thinking about what matters. 221 00:11:14,740 --> 00:11:19,350 Speaker 2: So the Ponti anna where to begin a spirit as 222 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:23,689 Speaker 2: old as Southeast Asia itself. In malay folklore it is 223 00:11:23,690 --> 00:11:27,380 Speaker 2: usually described as the spirit of a pregnant woman who 224 00:11:27,380 --> 00:11:31,540 Speaker 2: died in childbirth supposedly she comes back in a white 225 00:11:31,550 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 2: dress with long black hair 226 00:11:34,540 --> 00:11:37,020 Speaker 2: and nails that are said to be able to rip 227 00:11:37,020 --> 00:11:42,780 Speaker 2: flesh apart. Her entire thing is that she lures unsuspecting 228 00:11:42,780 --> 00:11:47,900 Speaker 2: men as prey as revenge and retribution for how they 229 00:11:47,910 --> 00:11:52,410 Speaker 2: treated her when she was alive. I know pretty messed 230 00:11:52,410 --> 00:11:56,829 Speaker 2: up right? But here's the crucial bit. The Montana is 231 00:11:56,830 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 2: associated with banana trees and it is said that she 232 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 2: spends her days residing within them. 233 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:09,530 Speaker 2: If a pontianak is around, you always notice the smell 234 00:12:09,540 --> 00:12:14,559 Speaker 2: first that foul mix of a beautiful floral scent 235 00:12:14,940 --> 00:12:17,199 Speaker 2: along with a decaying corpse. 236 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:18,860 Speaker 2: Also 237 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:22,910 Speaker 2: if the sounds of the forest are loud then she 238 00:12:22,910 --> 00:12:25,350 Speaker 2: is far but 239 00:12:25,940 --> 00:12:31,060 Speaker 2: if there are no sounds at all. She 240 00:12:31,540 --> 00:12:33,660 Speaker 2: it is near by. 241 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:39,950 Speaker 2: So this was the thing that was tormenting Aaron 242 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:44,250 Speaker 2: coming into his house, attacking him with her long nails 243 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:46,580 Speaker 2: and causing those gashes on his body. 244 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 2: We had the means. We had the opportunity. 245 00:12:51,110 --> 00:12:52,750 Speaker 2: The only thing left 246 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 2: was motive. 247 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 2: Why? 248 00:13:02,140 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 2: It took a while but I finally tracked Nicole yang down. 249 00:13:06,740 --> 00:13:11,370 Speaker 2: You have no idea how many students and parents and 250 00:13:11,370 --> 00:13:14,429 Speaker 2: teachers I had to call. Anyway I managed to get 251 00:13:14,429 --> 00:13:16,860 Speaker 2: her email address and send her a short message 252 00:13:17,340 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 2: hoping against all hope 253 00:13:20,740 --> 00:13:22,750 Speaker 2: that she would actually respond. 254 00:13:25,740 --> 00:13:27,860 Speaker 2: Hello. Hi 255 00:13:28,340 --> 00:13:30,460 Speaker 2: is this mess 256 00:13:31,340 --> 00:13:35,660 Speaker 2: sonya? Yes. Yes. Hi. Is this Nicole being 257 00:13:36,340 --> 00:13:39,390 Speaker 2: thank you so much for calling. I hope you're having 258 00:13:39,390 --> 00:13:41,650 Speaker 2: a good morning. It's morning over there. Right. 259 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 2: I was hoping to ask you a few questions. 260 00:13:46,540 --> 00:13:47,559 Speaker 2: This is about 261 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:49,050 Speaker 2: Aaron. 262 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:49,950 Speaker 2: Right. 263 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:51,500 Speaker 2: It is 264 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 2: um 265 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:58,550 Speaker 2: What what kind of questions 266 00:13:59,740 --> 00:14:01,750 Speaker 2: he's in trouble. Nicole. I know 267 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:03,650 Speaker 2: I saw that from that email. 268 00:14:04,340 --> 00:14:05,660 Speaker 2: That's why I decided to call. 269 00:14:06,340 --> 00:14:10,559 Speaker 2: Sorry Miss Sonia. Just Sonya is fine 270 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 2: sonya. 271 00:14:13,140 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 2: I moved here to start a new life 272 00:14:16,740 --> 00:14:19,050 Speaker 2: to get away from Aaron 273 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:20,260 Speaker 2: but 274 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:21,750 Speaker 2: you still called? 275 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:22,860 Speaker 2: Why 276 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:24,660 Speaker 2: I 277 00:14:25,740 --> 00:14:25,950 Speaker 2: Okay. 278 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:27,550 Speaker 2: Okay 279 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:30,150 Speaker 2: you still care for him? Right 280 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 2: you call? What happened? 281 00:14:36,940 --> 00:14:38,350 Speaker 2: Did he do something to you? 282 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 2: No no 283 00:14:40,940 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 2: it's 284 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 2: it's not like that. 285 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 2: It's not what he did but 286 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 2: more of what he got me to do. 287 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 2: Does it have anything to do with your blog? You 288 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:57,060 Speaker 2: mentioned that you wanted to right some wrong? 289 00:14:59,040 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 2: Right. 290 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 2: Yes, I 291 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:05,150 Speaker 2: I loved him. 292 00:15:05,740 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 2: He told him I wanted to keep 293 00:15:08,940 --> 00:15:11,490 Speaker 2: that our parents would have supported us. 294 00:15:15,140 --> 00:15:15,460 Speaker 2: It 295 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:17,550 Speaker 2: I found out at six weeks 296 00:15:18,140 --> 00:15:20,450 Speaker 2: I told Aaron we should keep 297 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:23,490 Speaker 2: I wanted to keep it. I told him he could 298 00:15:23,500 --> 00:15:25,550 Speaker 2: find a way to make it work. 299 00:15:30,740 --> 00:15:31,530 Speaker 2: No. 300 00:15:35,940 --> 00:15:41,550 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. Erin I can't believe it. Our own baby. 301 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:43,260 Speaker 2: Mm hmm. 302 00:15:46,140 --> 00:15:46,350 Speaker 2: Mhm. 303 00:15:46,940 --> 00:15:47,750 Speaker 2: Aaron 304 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:51,260 Speaker 1: Nicole. Um 305 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:54,150 Speaker 1: we need to talk about this. My 306 00:15:54,740 --> 00:15:56,150 Speaker 1: dad he wants us to 307 00:15:56,540 --> 00:15:59,750 Speaker 1: uh he wants us to what? 308 00:16:00,140 --> 00:16:00,350 Speaker 1: Mhm 309 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:02,260 Speaker 2: No 310 00:16:03,340 --> 00:16:04,260 Speaker 2: no no no 311 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:05,260 Speaker 2: Aaron 312 00:16:05,740 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 1: we talked about this. 313 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 1: Okay and he's right, we're supposed to be focusing on 314 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:14,660 Speaker 1: our studies now. Go to university built towards a career. 315 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 1: What's going to happen to applications? Our scholarships? What do 316 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:19,650 Speaker 1: you mean? What's going to happen? 317 00:16:20,140 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 2: Aaron, we are 318 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:25,700 Speaker 1: having a baby, don't you see this changes everything. No 319 00:16:25,700 --> 00:16:27,100 Speaker 1: it doesn't. We 320 00:16:27,100 --> 00:16:28,190 Speaker 2: can still build 321 00:16:28,190 --> 00:16:31,610 Speaker 1: our futures and raise a family. Cool. You need to 322 00:16:31,610 --> 00:16:34,390 Speaker 1: be realistic about this. I mean if we have a 323 00:16:34,390 --> 00:16:36,460 Speaker 1: kid don't we have to play for the same school. 324 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:39,060 Speaker 1: I thought you want to go to Canada and my 325 00:16:39,060 --> 00:16:42,270 Speaker 1: dad he wants me to go to Harvard 326 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:46,530 Speaker 1: but we can always adjust our plans. Right. I can 327 00:16:46,540 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 1: change my application And what if we don't get to 328 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 1: the same school? 329 00:16:50,740 --> 00:16:51,270 Speaker 1: Uh huh. 330 00:16:51,740 --> 00:16:54,620 Speaker 1: Have you even thought about that? We can make arrangements 331 00:16:54,630 --> 00:16:57,140 Speaker 1: or something. Maybe. I'll defer 332 00:16:57,140 --> 00:16:58,330 Speaker 2: my studies for a few 333 00:16:58,330 --> 00:17:00,650 Speaker 1: years old. 334 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:04,690 Speaker 1: You've got so much going on for you know this 335 00:17:04,690 --> 00:17:08,629 Speaker 1: is not fair. I want to keep our baby. This 336 00:17:08,630 --> 00:17:09,490 Speaker 1: is our 337 00:17:09,500 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 2: baby. Erin cole. 338 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:15,140 Speaker 1: Please can you think about this? 339 00:17:15,740 --> 00:17:18,740 Speaker 1: This doesn't make sense for us. Right now we're gonna 340 00:17:18,740 --> 00:17:22,369 Speaker 1: be bumped down, barked down. My dad is right. Your 341 00:17:22,369 --> 00:17:24,859 Speaker 1: dad doesn't know ship. Your dad would say the same 342 00:17:24,859 --> 00:17:25,169 Speaker 1: thing 343 00:17:25,180 --> 00:17:28,400 Speaker 2: so he wouldn't How could you even say that? 344 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:31,659 Speaker 1: Look 345 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:34,359 Speaker 1: okay. I know it sucks 346 00:17:34,940 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 1: what we're going to have to make This is just 347 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 1: not because we want to 348 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:39,859 Speaker 1: but because we have to. All right. 349 00:17:40,540 --> 00:17:40,770 Speaker 1: Yeah. 350 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:44,850 Speaker 1: You might think you want this baby number. What happens 351 00:17:44,859 --> 00:17:46,920 Speaker 1: in a few years when you're stuck at home with 352 00:17:46,930 --> 00:17:48,459 Speaker 1: no degree and no prospects. 353 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:51,580 Speaker 1: What happens when you see all your friends moving on 354 00:17:51,580 --> 00:17:54,550 Speaker 1: in the world while you're still stuck in the same place? Huh? 355 00:17:55,140 --> 00:18:00,409 Speaker 2: Don't you get it? No. Then 356 00:18:00,410 --> 00:18:06,369 Speaker 1: you're representing me or even worse yourself or the kid? 357 00:18:06,380 --> 00:18:09,110 Speaker 2: No. No I won't. 358 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:14,060 Speaker 1: What are we gonna do then babe? The 359 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:16,270 Speaker 1: the baby didn't ask for red. 360 00:18:17,140 --> 00:18:20,070 Speaker 1: The baby never asked to be torn between two parents 361 00:18:20,070 --> 00:18:21,550 Speaker 1: who wanted more 362 00:18:22,510 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 2: Aaron 363 00:18:23,940 --> 00:18:24,660 Speaker 2: please. 364 00:18:24,670 --> 00:18:28,050 Speaker 1: You know I'm right. Nicole. 365 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:30,090 Speaker 1: This is the only 366 00:18:30,100 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 2: way 367 00:18:32,740 --> 00:18:39,490 Speaker 2: the way 368 00:18:39,500 --> 00:18:42,550 Speaker 1: my dad will pay for everything. Okay. He 369 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:46,360 Speaker 1: he probably already spoke to your father and you you 370 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:48,620 Speaker 1: won't have to fork out a single cent right. We 371 00:18:48,630 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 1: can still have a whole life to live 372 00:18:51,340 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 1: please. 373 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:52,670 Speaker 1: Mhm 374 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 1: Don't let a stupid decision getting aware of 375 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:57,060 Speaker 2: that. 376 00:18:57,740 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 2: She shared all of this. 377 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:05,900 Speaker 2: I could sense the shame and regret in her voice. 378 00:19:06,540 --> 00:19:08,850 Speaker 2: Even if she didn't want to admit it. 379 00:19:09,940 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 2: I think 380 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:12,450 Speaker 2: deep down 381 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:15,770 Speaker 2: Nicole knew that Aaron was right 382 00:19:17,540 --> 00:19:19,360 Speaker 2: but you know what the funny thing is, 383 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:23,550 Speaker 2: she ended up presenting him anyway. 384 00:19:24,540 --> 00:19:25,949 Speaker 2: It was 385 00:19:26,940 --> 00:19:30,170 Speaker 2: the most difficult thing that I ever 386 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:32,459 Speaker 2: I had to do in my life 387 00:19:33,940 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 2: and 388 00:19:35,540 --> 00:19:37,060 Speaker 2: when I needed someone 389 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 2: to help me through it 390 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:42,350 Speaker 2: I was turned away 391 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:45,460 Speaker 2: mm hmm. 392 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:54,850 Speaker 2: Yes. Hello Mr Wong 393 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:56,670 Speaker 2: is Aaron at home 394 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:04,690 Speaker 2: Can I just talk to him for 10 minutes please 395 00:20:04,900 --> 00:20:11,830 Speaker 2: go home. I just I just need to see him already. Okay. 396 00:20:14,740 --> 00:20:14,950 Speaker 2: Mhm. 397 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 2: I tried 398 00:20:17,140 --> 00:20:19,359 Speaker 2: time and time again 399 00:20:19,740 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 2: day after day 400 00:20:22,340 --> 00:20:23,449 Speaker 2: but 401 00:20:24,740 --> 00:20:26,170 Speaker 2: nothing 402 00:20:27,140 --> 00:20:30,130 Speaker 2: I thought that if I went along with what they 403 00:20:30,130 --> 00:20:33,950 Speaker 2: wanted they would at least be grateful. I 404 00:20:36,140 --> 00:20:39,460 Speaker 2: me and Aaron could at least still be together. 405 00:20:40,140 --> 00:20:40,350 Speaker 2: Mhm 406 00:20:41,540 --> 00:20:41,770 Speaker 2: mm. 407 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:45,060 Speaker 2: Okay 408 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:50,360 Speaker 2: how could I have been so stupid 409 00:20:51,140 --> 00:20:55,780 Speaker 2: Nicole it's not your fault. Who cares whose fault it 410 00:20:55,790 --> 00:20:58,669 Speaker 2: is it doesn't matter. Okay 411 00:20:59,340 --> 00:21:04,920 Speaker 2: it was my baby. I took away his life and 412 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:08,530 Speaker 2: for what? How am I supposed to live with what 413 00:21:08,540 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 2: I did you call? I 414 00:21:13,940 --> 00:21:17,980 Speaker 2: I know it's hard. Oh you don't okay don't even 415 00:21:17,990 --> 00:21:19,850 Speaker 2: try with that bullshit. 416 00:21:20,940 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 2: Mhm 417 00:21:23,630 --> 00:21:25,550 Speaker 2: Nicole 418 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:27,610 Speaker 2: when I was younger 419 00:21:28,540 --> 00:21:32,949 Speaker 2: back in university trying to get my degree 420 00:21:34,140 --> 00:21:35,670 Speaker 2: the same thing happened to me. 421 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:37,060 Speaker 2: I 422 00:21:37,940 --> 00:21:40,360 Speaker 2: experienced what you did 423 00:21:41,740 --> 00:21:42,550 Speaker 2: here. 424 00:21:43,140 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 2: You had a baby. 425 00:21:47,540 --> 00:21:48,350 Speaker 2: I 426 00:21:49,340 --> 00:21:51,350 Speaker 2: did the same thing you did. 427 00:21:51,740 --> 00:21:52,060 Speaker 2: Mhm. 428 00:21:53,540 --> 00:21:53,770 Speaker 2: Mhm. 429 00:21:54,340 --> 00:21:57,160 Speaker 2: Well, I understand. All right. 430 00:21:57,940 --> 00:22:01,660 Speaker 2: You understand how painful it is. It is. 431 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:06,629 Speaker 2: It's so painful. I get it. You're torn because you 432 00:22:06,630 --> 00:22:09,899 Speaker 2: care for so many people so many things at the 433 00:22:09,900 --> 00:22:14,710 Speaker 2: same time. Your boyfriend, your parents, what's growing inside of 434 00:22:14,710 --> 00:22:15,270 Speaker 2: you 435 00:22:15,740 --> 00:22:16,670 Speaker 2: yourself 436 00:22:17,940 --> 00:22:18,470 Speaker 2: and 437 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:23,460 Speaker 2: whatever decision you make, somebody gets hurt. 438 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:28,060 Speaker 2: It sucks. I know, but you you just 439 00:22:28,740 --> 00:22:30,859 Speaker 2: you just have to learn to make peace with that. 440 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,590 Speaker 2: It might take a few months. Heck even a few years. 441 00:22:34,980 --> 00:22:37,660 Speaker 2: But I've been through enough to know that. 442 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:38,270 Speaker 2: Yeah, 443 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:42,850 Speaker 2: you don't want to stay in pain. Angry, 444 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 2: depressed, 445 00:22:45,140 --> 00:22:45,770 Speaker 2: guilty. 446 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:50,359 Speaker 2: You don't have to live like this forever. Nicole you. 447 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 2: You 448 00:22:53,140 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 2: deserve better. 449 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:57,360 Speaker 2: Mm. 450 00:22:58,340 --> 00:22:58,660 Speaker 2: Uh huh. 451 00:22:59,640 --> 00:22:59,850 Speaker 2: Okay, 452 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:00,850 Speaker 2: mm. 453 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:02,670 Speaker 2: Thank you 454 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:03,550 Speaker 2: sonya. 455 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:05,860 Speaker 2: I wish 456 00:23:06,540 --> 00:23:08,460 Speaker 2: I could have talked to you sooner. 457 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:10,310 Speaker 2: Of course. Of course. 458 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:13,360 Speaker 2: So 459 00:23:14,340 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 2: after what happened, 460 00:23:16,140 --> 00:23:17,060 Speaker 2: I 461 00:23:18,340 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 2: I got angry. 462 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 2: I mean I was in a 463 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:27,160 Speaker 2: bad, bad place. 464 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:28,860 Speaker 2: I started 465 00:23:29,340 --> 00:23:30,659 Speaker 2: threshing my room 466 00:23:31,540 --> 00:23:33,270 Speaker 2: fighting with my parents. 467 00:23:34,340 --> 00:23:35,860 Speaker 2: Breaking school property. 468 00:23:38,140 --> 00:23:39,360 Speaker 2: It got so bad 469 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:41,170 Speaker 2: that my parents 470 00:23:41,740 --> 00:23:44,460 Speaker 2: eventually put me out and transferred me here. 471 00:23:45,540 --> 00:23:48,359 Speaker 2: As if that was ever going to really change anything. 472 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:49,670 Speaker 2: Mhm. 473 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 2: Right. 474 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:53,860 Speaker 2: That anger 475 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:55,359 Speaker 2: I couldn't 476 00:23:57,140 --> 00:23:58,060 Speaker 2: I couldn't 477 00:23:58,440 --> 00:23:59,670 Speaker 2: put it aside. 478 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:02,359 Speaker 2: So before I left 479 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:03,169 Speaker 2: I 480 00:24:04,140 --> 00:24:04,950 Speaker 2: I told myself 481 00:24:05,500 --> 00:24:07,359 Speaker 2: one last thing left to do. 482 00:24:07,940 --> 00:24:09,950 Speaker 2: Right or wrong from your blog. 483 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:11,170 Speaker 2: Yes. 484 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:13,770 Speaker 2: Nicole. What did you do? 485 00:24:16,740 --> 00:24:17,359 Speaker 2: So I 486 00:24:18,740 --> 00:24:21,950 Speaker 2: Went back again to Erin's house late one evening 487 00:24:22,940 --> 00:24:23,770 Speaker 2: only this time 488 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 2: I wasn't actually going to see him. 489 00:24:26,940 --> 00:24:33,070 Speaker 2: I took a path inside the forest surrounding the mansion 490 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:38,929 Speaker 2: and made my way to our favorite thought banana tree. Yeah. 491 00:24:38,940 --> 00:24:43,920 Speaker 2: You see my dad used to tell me that there's 492 00:24:43,930 --> 00:24:48,609 Speaker 2: so much more to the world than just the physical material, 493 00:24:48,619 --> 00:24:55,830 Speaker 2: what you see or touch. They're all just superficial impermanent. 494 00:24:55,840 --> 00:25:00,220 Speaker 2: They will come to an end. That's what Aaron said. 495 00:25:00,230 --> 00:25:10,390 Speaker 2: There's more to this world tree to smell. Step my 496 00:25:10,390 --> 00:25:14,670 Speaker 2: dad knew what was in there. You want me all 497 00:25:14,670 --> 00:25:18,310 Speaker 2: the time. Never to look, always make sure you don't 498 00:25:18,310 --> 00:25:20,160 Speaker 2: look when you come across the smell 499 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:25,169 Speaker 2: but I never took it seriously. I mean how could you, 500 00:25:26,050 --> 00:25:29,060 Speaker 2: I even used to joke about it all the time 501 00:25:29,260 --> 00:25:32,460 Speaker 2: with Aaron shall we seemed so 502 00:25:33,740 --> 00:25:34,460 Speaker 2: stupid. 503 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 2: The trivial. 504 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:38,270 Speaker 2: Yeah. 505 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:39,360 Speaker 2: Until 506 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 2: that's right. 507 00:25:42,340 --> 00:25:42,790 Speaker 2: Damn 508 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:57,359 Speaker 2: wow. 509 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:07,850 Speaker 2: Mhm. 510 00:26:10,940 --> 00:26:20,899 Speaker 2: After talking to Nicole I called erin Way it's me 511 00:26:20,910 --> 00:26:28,500 Speaker 2: officer chan way. I told him I knew how to 512 00:26:28,500 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 2: get rid of the Montana 513 00:26:30,340 --> 00:26:32,900 Speaker 2: but I had to make sure that his father would 514 00:26:32,910 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 2: not find out. 515 00:26:37,830 --> 00:26:43,580 Speaker 2: So he roped in his stepmother Charlene to let me in, 516 00:26:43,590 --> 00:26:47,190 Speaker 2: she would distract robert Wong and he would come meet 517 00:26:47,190 --> 00:26:48,859 Speaker 2: me by the side of the house. 518 00:26:50,340 --> 00:26:50,550 Speaker 2: Mhm. 519 00:26:51,140 --> 00:26:51,340 Speaker 2: Yeah. 520 00:26:52,540 --> 00:26:52,770 Speaker 2: Yeah. 521 00:26:54,140 --> 00:26:56,200 Speaker 2: Hey, Aaron you there? 522 00:26:56,740 --> 00:26:59,340 Speaker 2: Yeah. 523 00:27:01,070 --> 00:27:05,060 Speaker 2: Okay. What now? We don't have much time. Let's go. 524 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. 525 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. 526 00:27:09,540 --> 00:27:09,859 Speaker 2: Mhm. 527 00:27:10,340 --> 00:27:10,540 Speaker 2: Yeah. 528 00:27:10,940 --> 00:27:11,170 Speaker 2: Yeah 529 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:14,810 Speaker 2: we went back to the tree 530 00:27:15,340 --> 00:27:19,149 Speaker 2: this time in the early evening as light was beginning 531 00:27:19,150 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 2: to dim and night was almost upon us. 532 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:24,460 Speaker 1: Oh, 533 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 1: it looks so different than up. 534 00:27:27,340 --> 00:27:28,660 Speaker 2: You've never been here at night. 535 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:29,550 Speaker 2: No, 536 00:27:29,940 --> 00:27:30,660 Speaker 1: never 537 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,270 Speaker 1: Nicole. And I always hung out here during the day. 538 00:27:34,140 --> 00:27:34,850 Speaker 2: Um 539 00:27:34,859 --> 00:27:36,450 Speaker 1: what are you going to do? 540 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:38,270 Speaker 2: Honestly, 541 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:40,360 Speaker 2: I'm not so sure myself, 542 00:27:41,140 --> 00:27:43,580 Speaker 2: but it looks like neither of us have any other 543 00:27:43,580 --> 00:27:44,770 Speaker 2: options left, do we? 544 00:27:46,340 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, 545 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:50,140 Speaker 2: yeah, 546 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 2: yeah. 547 00:27:53,780 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 2: I reached out 548 00:27:54,940 --> 00:27:56,050 Speaker 2: touch the tree 549 00:27:57,340 --> 00:27:59,350 Speaker 2: and began the ritual. 550 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,550 Speaker 2: I perform the same steps that cole did. 551 00:28:08,510 --> 00:28:11,669 Speaker 2: The stench started to fill the air, 552 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:13,550 Speaker 2: growing stronger 553 00:28:14,540 --> 00:28:15,399 Speaker 2: worse. 554 00:28:18,740 --> 00:28:18,940 Speaker 2: Yeah. 555 00:28:27,140 --> 00:28:27,460 Speaker 2: And 556 00:28:28,340 --> 00:28:30,050 Speaker 2: there she was. 557 00:28:31,340 --> 00:28:31,669 Speaker 2: Oh 558 00:28:32,140 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 2: officer, 559 00:28:34,340 --> 00:28:35,060 Speaker 2: trust me 560 00:28:36,340 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 2: perched atop the banana tree in a squatting position looking 561 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:44,350 Speaker 2: down at us. If those red eyes, 562 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:50,060 Speaker 2: I, 563 00:28:51,340 --> 00:28:53,260 Speaker 2: I know what you are. 564 00:28:54,580 --> 00:28:56,770 Speaker 2: I know why you're here. 565 00:28:57,840 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 2: I spoke to who sent you 566 00:29:00,570 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 2: and 567 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:02,770 Speaker 2: she regrets it. 568 00:29:03,940 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 2: She regrets what she's done 569 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:07,670 Speaker 2: both to herself, 570 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:09,260 Speaker 2: her baby 571 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 2: and to share in the cool. 572 00:29:13,940 --> 00:29:15,770 Speaker 2: He is also hurting 573 00:29:16,340 --> 00:29:18,170 Speaker 2: this boy here. 574 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:19,860 Speaker 2: You can see that, right? 575 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 2: He misses Nicole. 576 00:29:22,340 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 2: He misses everything they had 577 00:29:24,650 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 2: and he is in so much pain himself. 578 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:31,270 Speaker 2: He has so much anger. 579 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,970 Speaker 2: It's eating him up inside and he's letting you hurt 580 00:29:34,970 --> 00:29:35,350 Speaker 2: him 581 00:29:35,740 --> 00:29:38,350 Speaker 2: because he wants to feel that pain. 582 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 2: He wants to hurt on the outside. The same way 583 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:43,820 Speaker 2: he is hurting within 584 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:46,670 Speaker 2: Yeah. 585 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:49,950 Speaker 2: And I have been there, 586 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 2: I have been the same. 587 00:29:53,140 --> 00:29:56,580 Speaker 2: That's why you didn't hurt me right? Because you knew 588 00:29:56,590 --> 00:29:59,260 Speaker 2: you knew I had been a mother once 589 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:03,210 Speaker 2: you knew what I had gone through and you knew 590 00:30:03,210 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 2: the pain I had also felt in losing my child. 591 00:30:08,940 --> 00:30:10,350 Speaker 2: Shall I ask you 592 00:30:11,340 --> 00:30:13,350 Speaker 2: mother to mother? 593 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 2: Okay 594 00:30:14,740 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 2: Pete let this boy live. 595 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:18,850 Speaker 2: Mhm. 596 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:24,660 Speaker 2: Waited for what seemed like an eternity. 597 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,450 Speaker 2: I expected her to jump down any second and to 598 00:30:28,460 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 2: rip us apart with those long nails. 599 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:32,950 Speaker 2: Please 600 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 2: let him live 601 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,170 Speaker 2: like you did for me. 602 00:30:39,140 --> 00:30:44,170 Speaker 2: If only because you can understand our pain. 603 00:30:44,740 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. 604 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:47,050 Speaker 2: Mhm. 605 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:48,670 Speaker 2: Oh 606 00:30:50,540 --> 00:30:50,770 Speaker 2: yeah. 607 00:30:53,940 --> 00:30:54,270 Speaker 2: Mhm. 608 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:04,670 Speaker 2: Mhm. 609 00:31:05,340 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 2: Mhm. 610 00:31:08,890 --> 00:31:14,060 Speaker 2: Just like that she was gone, 611 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,850 Speaker 2: floated away into the night. 612 00:31:19,140 --> 00:31:19,460 Speaker 1: Oh 613 00:31:19,940 --> 00:31:20,770 Speaker 1: officer you 614 00:31:21,140 --> 00:31:24,060 Speaker 1: you you did it you did it you 615 00:31:24,060 --> 00:31:28,550 Speaker 2: actually did it. Oh my God it worked. It worked. 616 00:31:29,140 --> 00:31:43,210 Speaker 2: You did. It was finally over 617 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:52,580 Speaker 1: so he found some more links between the laptop and 618 00:31:52,580 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 1: wallet case. So john 619 00:31:54,340 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 1: now that you're back I'm going to need you to 620 00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:57,959 Speaker 1: follow up on these leads and 621 00:31:58,340 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 1: hello officers is this a good time? 622 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:03,450 Speaker 2: Oh Mr wang 623 00:32:03,460 --> 00:32:06,950 Speaker 1: What what brings you to the station? I 624 00:32:07,740 --> 00:32:10,860 Speaker 1: you just wanted to come over to say 625 00:32:11,740 --> 00:32:15,270 Speaker 1: thank you. Oh yeah. What what for 626 00:32:15,940 --> 00:32:16,960 Speaker 2: my son? 627 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:20,010 Speaker 1: He hasn't had any issue for the past week already. 628 00:32:20,140 --> 00:32:23,190 Speaker 1: He mentioned that it was because of officer chance help 629 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:24,450 Speaker 1: officer charm. 630 00:32:24,940 --> 00:32:29,940 Speaker 2: Really. You're very welcome. Mr Wong. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah 631 00:32:30,340 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 1: I don't know what you did to my boy. He 632 00:32:33,170 --> 00:32:35,410 Speaker 1: feels a lot better now he hasn't woken up like 633 00:32:35,420 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 1: he used to. 634 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:38,270 Speaker 1: No no screaming nothing scary 635 00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 1: so no more blood, no 636 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:45,950 Speaker 1: scratches, ripped bedsheets nope. 637 00:32:46,740 --> 00:32:51,010 Speaker 1: Well uh to say there's quite a pleasant surprise. 638 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:52,860 Speaker 1: So I guess this means 639 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:57,730 Speaker 1: case closed. Yeah yeah yeah case closed. Thanks again. Officer 640 00:32:57,730 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 1: john 641 00:32:58,270 --> 00:33:01,060 Speaker 2: Aaron please just call me sonya. 642 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:02,030 Speaker 2: You 643 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 1: believed in me 644 00:33:03,540 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 1: when I needed it the most and 645 00:33:05,740 --> 00:33:07,380 Speaker 1: for that I'm forever grateful. 646 00:33:08,540 --> 00:33:09,050 Speaker 1: Thank you. 647 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,340 Speaker 2: You're welcome Aaron. So 648 00:33:12,340 --> 00:33:14,950 Speaker 1: that's it. Huh? No need to follow up already. Uh 649 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,950 Speaker 1: don't come and stop us anymore. 650 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 1: Uh Box 651 00:33:20,140 --> 00:33:20,970 Speaker 1: don't forget her. 652 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,350 Speaker 1: Oh yeah yeah yeah 653 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:28,170 Speaker 1: about the whole officer chant breaking incident. Just just forget 654 00:33:28,170 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 1: it about it that way. You sure? Yes yes yes 655 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:34,150 Speaker 1: yes after after all she did. Huh? 656 00:33:34,740 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 1: Didn't you dog go missing or something? Yeah. That stupid 657 00:33:38,210 --> 00:33:41,240 Speaker 1: old boiler probably went to chase some skrill or something 658 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 1: and lost his way. He will come back a few 659 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,350 Speaker 1: days later. Okay. 660 00:33:46,940 --> 00:33:49,800 Speaker 1: I guess I'll let my superiors know about the good news. 661 00:33:50,030 --> 00:33:54,740 Speaker 1: I thought I'm already, in fact I think officer john 662 00:33:54,740 --> 00:33:56,490 Speaker 1: deserve recommendation. Yeah 663 00:33:56,500 --> 00:33:58,700 Speaker 2: thank you. Mr wang. 664 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:05,660 Speaker 2: It was nice seeing JJ eat his own words for 665 00:34:05,660 --> 00:34:08,380 Speaker 2: once and what made it better was that he had 666 00:34:08,380 --> 00:34:11,850 Speaker 2: to rewrite the whole case report and sign off on 667 00:34:11,850 --> 00:34:17,470 Speaker 2: my recommendation. Can you imagine that? 668 00:34:17,940 --> 00:34:19,259 Speaker 2: And that's for Aaron 669 00:34:19,940 --> 00:34:23,230 Speaker 2: we actually became pretty good friends after that. How was 670 00:34:23,230 --> 00:34:24,860 Speaker 2: your A. Levels did you do? Well 671 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:27,780 Speaker 2: I still talk to him from time to time you 672 00:34:27,780 --> 00:34:30,959 Speaker 2: know he lives in America now has his own little 673 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 2: family with a kid and another on the way says 674 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:37,759 Speaker 2: his son has quite the temper, just like his grandfather 675 00:34:38,940 --> 00:34:41,060 Speaker 2: and I guess that's about it. 676 00:34:42,140 --> 00:34:43,850 Speaker 2: There's a saying in the police that 677 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,549 Speaker 2: there will always be a case that you remember 678 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 2: either because of how it closed or how it changed you. 679 00:34:50,940 --> 00:34:55,310 Speaker 2: For me I think I can genuinely say that this 680 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:56,160 Speaker 2: was both. 681 00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:02,770 Speaker 2: I'll always remember Aaron huddled in the bathroom crying for help. 682 00:35:02,780 --> 00:35:07,360 Speaker 2: I'll always remember how close I was to getting fired 683 00:35:07,370 --> 00:35:10,700 Speaker 2: and for as long as I remain as an officer, 684 00:35:10,710 --> 00:35:15,549 Speaker 2: I'll always remember to try and help the best I 685 00:35:15,550 --> 00:35:16,170 Speaker 2: can 686 00:35:16,830 --> 00:35:19,050 Speaker 2: and to not look the other way. 687 00:35:21,940 --> 00:35:22,170 Speaker 2: Mhm 688 00:35:33,340 --> 00:35:33,660 Speaker 2: yeah, 689 00:35:37,540 --> 00:35:37,859 Speaker 1: mm hmm. 690 00:35:41,940 --> 00:35:45,760 Speaker 1: Thank you for listening to this episode of after dark 691 00:35:45,770 --> 00:35:49,440 Speaker 1: new episodes will be released every other friday at 10 p.m. 692 00:35:49,450 --> 00:35:51,760 Speaker 1: And you can follow the podcast on the meal is 693 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:58,200 Speaker 1: an app, Spotify, apple podcasts or google podcast. Episode six 694 00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:02,280 Speaker 1: The spirit was produced and directed by Danny Cordy. Screenplay 695 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:05,360 Speaker 1: was written by Carl gone editing and sound design by 696 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,850 Speaker 1: Danny Cordy with mixing from David chiu 697 00:36:07,930 --> 00:36:13,520 Speaker 1: and assistance by Garrett Fernandez Gaby paying another raja by Ravan. 698 00:36:13,690 --> 00:36:18,170 Speaker 1: The overall story takes influence from the white pet story. Stillborn. 699 00:36:18,180 --> 00:36:21,790 Speaker 1: The legend of pontianak is written by dr l me 700 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:23,739 Speaker 1: so carnitine Osmond. 701 00:36:23,930 --> 00:36:28,050 Speaker 1: The cost for episode six features Rachel chin as sonia. 702 00:36:28,060 --> 00:36:32,370 Speaker 1: Adam tune on as JJ vester um, as robert, Wong 703 00:36:32,380 --> 00:36:36,660 Speaker 1: ton rations as Charlene Wong Bright on as Aaron Wong 704 00:36:36,670 --> 00:36:41,620 Speaker 1: and leash Akane as Nicole ying. Finally, the after dark 705 00:36:41,620 --> 00:36:45,670 Speaker 1: podcast is an original media core production developed in partnership 706 00:36:45,670 --> 00:36:48,890 Speaker 1: with what Pet studios and recorded at I M. D 707 00:36:48,890 --> 00:36:49,959 Speaker 1: A pixel. 708 00:36:50,030 --> 00:36:53,940 Speaker 1: Your executive producers are buried too. 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What? 722 00:37:44,330 --> 00:37:46,250 Speaker 2: What do you mean by strange noises? 723 00:37:47,430 --> 00:37:47,960 Speaker 2: Hello? 724 00:37:48,930 --> 00:37:49,549 Speaker 2: Hello?