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Speaker 1: high season, he is zero. And I'm jimmy and welcome

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Speaker 1: back to another episode of calamities

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Speaker 1: today, we'll be discussing something a bit more controversial. So

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Speaker 1: I'm very happy to have a male opinion today, Welcome.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for being here. Thank you. Oh, so much. You've

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Speaker 1: been very busy. You know from the very for

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Speaker 1: first few months I've known you you've been putting covers

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Speaker 1: on your own instagram.

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Speaker 1: Now you have your own full chinese album, having your

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Speaker 1: own concert. It

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Speaker 2: was the capitol theater.

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Speaker 1: Amazing. How do you feel about your achievements so far?

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Speaker 2: It's definitely like the biggest highlight, one of the highlights

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Speaker 2: of my career, I guess, and just very happy to

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Speaker 2: be able to put

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Speaker 2: the concert. I was so worried that, like,

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Speaker 2: you know, with all the covid magic restrictions, but thankfully

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Speaker 2: went smoothly. I'm happy. And also looking forward to the

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Speaker 2: next step.

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Speaker 1: I also want to say, I think it's very amazing

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Speaker 1: because I think he grew up speaking english,

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Speaker 2: mainly write english,

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Speaker 1: but because of your chinese songs, your careers, you really

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Speaker 1: try to hold your chinese language and you don't even

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Speaker 1: have an album in full chinese,

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Speaker 2: just like along the way

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Speaker 1: in today's episode, we're doing chinese. Well, chinese. Alright, well,

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Speaker 1: that's all right. So today we're going to be speaking

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Speaker 1: about this topic. What do you guys think about being

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Speaker 1: friends with your access? Well, hey, this is for you actually,

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Speaker 1: Marcus knows my ex as well, Jordan, what do you

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Speaker 1: think about, Well that escalated quickly. So when you think

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Speaker 1: about the way

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Speaker 2: Oh seriously?

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Speaker 1: But I think all our harsh listeners know that I

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Speaker 1: strongly believe in being friends with my access. The non

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Speaker 1: toxic ones. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I've got a few access. You know we still keep

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Speaker 1: in contact. We're still on good terms actually. But before

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Speaker 1: I move the markets I know my girls don't really

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Speaker 1: keep in contact with the access. Am I right

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Speaker 1: if I'm dating my ex now does that count? Why? Alright.

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Speaker 1: Uh he's my expert? Uh Everyone else? Not so much.

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Speaker 1: Not so much. I have a good reason for that.

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Speaker 1: I'll share later. Okay. But yeah okay. I can respect that.

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Speaker 1: You guys can stay friends with your exes. Right? All right.

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Speaker 1: And I can respect goes to zero uh what's happening,

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Speaker 1: what's happening? I think for me I think we know

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Speaker 1: that I didn't really commit before this. Uh Okay so

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Speaker 1: I'll share more later. I think a All right and

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Speaker 1: it's time for our one and only male opinion today, Marcus.

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Speaker 1: What about you?

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Speaker 2: What about me? What everyone is surely who

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Speaker 1: have you dated? I

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Speaker 2: think I think I lean more towards like my personal

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Speaker 2: experience is that I think the more towards german and Missouri. Okay,

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Speaker 2: so like we're not really in contact anymore. I think

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Speaker 1: question when it comes to being friends with access or not.

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Speaker 1: What is one song that comes to your mind?

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Speaker 2: One of the songs that first comes to mind is

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Speaker 2: this song by Rachel Yamagata. I wish you Love We

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Speaker 1: Have you got out of it? No, I wish you love.

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Speaker 1: I wish you shelter from the storm a cozy fire

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Speaker 1: Alright. Something like such a sweet. So I think we

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Speaker 1: You can't grow from there. That's my own personal experience.

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Speaker 2: You feel sometimes like when you say let's be friends,

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Speaker 1: Oh no. Planning on texting

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Speaker 2: him. What kind of friend? Right? Like friends are like

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Speaker 1: you're going to talk about this. Yeah. I think all

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Speaker 1: the listeners have heard the worst things that we love him.

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Speaker 1: But you know what? Some people say that a breakup

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Speaker 1: But if you're experiencing a breakup, they're still alive when

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Speaker 2: So I think in that case, right then it's totally like,

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Speaker 1: Not necessarily. So, um, upon knowing that I'm still friends

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Speaker 1: with Jordan's right, A lot of my friends to ask

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm focusing on myself, my career and I

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Speaker 1: and that's very, very nice. I mean between ages of

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Speaker 2: there was still some of the most painful thing of

447
00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:39,790
Speaker 2: a

448
00:21:39,790 --> 00:21:45,730
Speaker 1: breakup. Yeah. Oh my gosh. They bring a luggage, all

449
00:21:45,730 --> 00:21:47,770
Speaker 1: their things get out there. Usually they bring their friends

450
00:21:47,770 --> 00:21:53,040
Speaker 1: for backup ladies. My stuff still judges please. His mother

451
00:21:53,040 --> 00:22:00,500
Speaker 1: can be taking out a lot of space. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay.

452
00:22:00,500 --> 00:22:03,040
Speaker 1: So this is how you heal if you're a break up,

453
00:22:03,050 --> 00:22:06,220
Speaker 2: I felt like maybe I could be friends, but maybe

454
00:22:06,220 --> 00:22:08,730
Speaker 2: for her, she felt like can't be friends.

455
00:22:08,740 --> 00:22:09,860
Speaker 1: It's either all or nothing.

456
00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:12,330
Speaker 2: Yeah, probably, probably. I

457
00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:29,440
Speaker 1: Think for me, you know, healing from a breakup. Okay, confession.

458
00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:33,219
Speaker 1: I've never been broken up with before. I correctly, I

459
00:22:33,220 --> 00:22:36,770
Speaker 1: always get out first before they hurt me in the

460
00:22:36,780 --> 00:22:40,260
Speaker 1: last 10 years. The longest I've been single is three

461
00:22:40,260 --> 00:22:42,850
Speaker 1: months and that was before I started this thing

462
00:22:42,940 --> 00:22:46,250
Speaker 1: a setback to in that period of time I was

463
00:22:46,260 --> 00:22:49,169
Speaker 1: alone on my exchange so I was single. I was alone.

464
00:22:49,170 --> 00:22:52,210
Speaker 1: I was at the time of my life I had

465
00:22:52,220 --> 00:22:54,669
Speaker 1: to I had to face a lot of my own

466
00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,040
Speaker 1: deep rooted insecurities with myself because there was no one

467
00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:58,270
Speaker 1: to project it onto.

468
00:22:58,340 --> 00:23:00,219
Speaker 1: So during those few months I feel like I really

469
00:23:00,220 --> 00:23:03,729
Speaker 1: had to understand myself before you know, I came back

470
00:23:03,730 --> 00:23:05,370
Speaker 1: to Singapore and have hit me up then the next

471
00:23:05,369 --> 00:23:09,780
Speaker 1: thing you know, we're getting married I four years later.

472
00:23:09,780 --> 00:23:11,830
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think that was a very important three

473
00:23:11,830 --> 00:23:14,429
Speaker 1: months for me. Well he really didn't give you up.

474
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:16,670
Speaker 2: I think it sounds like he always had,

475
00:23:16,740 --> 00:23:19,200
Speaker 2: you know you mentioned like there are four reasons why

476
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,450
Speaker 2: people of difference. I think his reason was that number

477
00:23:21,540 --> 00:23:25,230
Speaker 2: 3 3, that's like an harbored

478
00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:27,920
Speaker 1: actually

479
00:23:28,310 --> 00:23:29,020
Speaker 2: after

480
00:23:29,020 --> 00:23:31,280
Speaker 1: we had broken up maybe two years later I met

481
00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:32,550
Speaker 1: up with him.

482
00:23:33,140 --> 00:23:40,360
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yes. But we were talking for very long and

483
00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:43,690
Speaker 1: he actually cried like very, very hard. He was saying

484
00:23:43,690 --> 00:23:46,800
Speaker 1: that you know, he really misses me no matter who

485
00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:50,580
Speaker 1: his data, they don't come close to me. I was like, yes,

486
00:23:50,590 --> 00:23:56,180
Speaker 1: I love love whatever I can feel how much love

487
00:23:56,180 --> 00:23:58,600
Speaker 1: Sf has for you like as being your very good friends.

488
00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:00,770
Speaker 1: He always picks you up. He always fetches his office.

489
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:06,420
Speaker 1: These are the little things that show, you know. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay.

490
00:24:06,430 --> 00:24:10,590
Speaker 1: So for you while facing the three months of like loneliness,

491
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:12,670
Speaker 1: what do you do to sort of like help yourself

492
00:24:12,670 --> 00:24:15,970
Speaker 1: get over it? I traveled by myself so I would

493
00:24:15,970 --> 00:24:18,630
Speaker 1: walk around like the whole city for hours and just

494
00:24:18,630 --> 00:24:20,169
Speaker 1: think about my life. It was like a bit

495
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,540
Speaker 1: depressing, but it's something that I needed as well. Cause

496
00:24:22,540 --> 00:24:24,350
Speaker 1: I've been in a relationship for so many years.

497
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:28,040
Speaker 1: I never got that chance to, you know, face myself

498
00:24:28,050 --> 00:24:30,740
Speaker 1: and just be with yourself and also understand the hurt

499
00:24:30,740 --> 00:24:35,430
Speaker 1: that I projected onto other people. Okay, what about you?

500
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:38,389
Speaker 1: I mean, even though you were committed before, but did

501
00:24:38,390 --> 00:24:40,160
Speaker 1: you feel the hurt of getting out of the

502
00:24:41,140 --> 00:24:42,160
Speaker 1: anything?

503
00:24:43,140 --> 00:24:45,970
Speaker 1: Actually just not right. When you mentioned like birthdays and stuff. Right?

504
00:24:45,980 --> 00:24:48,270
Speaker 1: So there was this blessing. Okay person.

505
00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:54,119
Speaker 1: I was terrible that this wasn't honestly, it was never

506
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:58,720
Speaker 1: a relationship. Never really dated. Okay. Every year you'll wish

507
00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:02,110
Speaker 1: me straight and midnight on my birthday left. So sweet

508
00:25:07,630 --> 00:25:14,590
Speaker 1: to text beforehand. You can schedule a message.

509
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,510
Speaker 2: What about what's up? What's up? Okay.

510
00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:24,400
Speaker 1: Isn't till this Buffy. Maybe it's so when I got married. Okay. Okay. Okay.

511
00:25:24,410 --> 00:25:27,680
Speaker 1: But you didn't feel at all when whatever you guys

512
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:33,359
Speaker 1: had ended, there was nothing for them all. Okay. Okay, complicated.

513
00:25:33,540 --> 00:25:34,070
Speaker 2: It's like the

514
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:37,770
Speaker 1: griller the green. Like the green, but there was really

515
00:25:37,940 --> 00:25:42,710
Speaker 1: nothing much. But basically I left this wasn't waiting for

516
00:25:42,710 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 1: a long time. Good things take time though. Good things

517
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:54,859
Speaker 1: take time. Everybody. Yes. Good things. A

518
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:58,050
Speaker 2: good things will come to those who wait but not

519
00:25:58,050 --> 00:25:59,450
Speaker 2: for those who wait too

520
00:25:59,450 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 1: late to get a good point. Because you know what

521
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:09,460
Speaker 1: we'll studies have been done to calculate. Unfortunately there's no

522
00:26:09,470 --> 00:26:12,230
Speaker 1: answer to how long it takes to heal from a breakup.

523
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 1: It may take a few weeks for some it may

524
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:16,550
Speaker 1: take a full year for some or two.

525
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 1: But just know that you will heal in time. That

526
00:26:19,420 --> 00:26:20,090
Speaker 1: it takes

527
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 1: half the time off your relationship. Is it just like

528
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,590
Speaker 1: you Marcus right? Because 2.5 years and about one year

529
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:26,990
Speaker 1: to get

530
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:27,580
Speaker 2: over

531
00:26:27,619 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 1: thinking things interesting. I think the guy I dated for

532
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 1: a month, two weeks ago.

533
00:26:35,710 --> 00:26:36,930
Speaker 2: Yeah.

534
00:26:36,970 --> 00:26:43,690
Speaker 1: You know the last time you know? Right. Uh Sorry.

535
00:26:44,550 --> 00:26:45,240
Speaker 2: Okay. I

536
00:26:45,250 --> 00:26:49,030
Speaker 1: think getting over a breakup. It really depends on a

537
00:26:49,030 --> 00:26:52,439
Speaker 1: lot of factors firstly if the relationship was toxic or

538
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:56,100
Speaker 1: abusive or anything like that. I think, yeah. Just cut

539
00:26:56,109 --> 00:26:59,920
Speaker 1: off entirely block this person everywhere. But it depends like

540
00:26:59,920 --> 00:27:02,369
Speaker 1: this person cheat on you. That is a hot. You're

541
00:27:02,369 --> 00:27:04,870
Speaker 1: going to take into relationships for the rest of your life.

542
00:27:04,869 --> 00:27:07,440
Speaker 1: Unfortunately sometimes about is there? Huh?

543
00:27:07,740 --> 00:27:11,460
Speaker 1: So you know that was there are no relationships. Huh?

544
00:27:11,470 --> 00:27:14,439
Speaker 1: But there's one more serious one. Not right. We all

545
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 1: know this.

546
00:27:15,140 --> 00:27:18,930
Speaker 1: And um with that. Wanna It was toxic. But after

547
00:27:18,930 --> 00:27:19,570
Speaker 1: that we were friends.

548
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,060
Speaker 1: We were friends. Or is it the

549
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:23,950
Speaker 1: mm hmm.

550
00:27:24,340 --> 00:27:26,050
Speaker 1: Please explain yourself

551
00:27:26,540 --> 00:27:27,369
Speaker 1: The reason.

552
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 2: The reason of friends.

553
00:27:28,820 --> 00:27:33,710
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well because I really don't like your feelings. Right? Okay.

554
00:27:34,420 --> 00:27:39,449
Speaker 1: I cannot go. I really cannot make it. Maybe it's

555
00:27:39,450 --> 00:27:42,290
Speaker 1: her process. Okay. Okay. Maybe it's a process of feeling

556
00:27:42,290 --> 00:27:44,810
Speaker 1: okay that I agree then to help you. I think

557
00:27:44,820 --> 00:27:45,920
Speaker 1: that's okay. Okay.

558
00:27:45,930 --> 00:27:48,290
Speaker 2: But you know your feelings. So I feel like maybe

559
00:27:48,300 --> 00:27:50,480
Speaker 2: you feel like you feel bad for

560
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:54,629
Speaker 1: me. I just feel like with everything that happens, right?

561
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:56,900
Speaker 1: I choose to acknowledge the good that I got out

562
00:27:56,900 --> 00:27:59,170
Speaker 1: of it. And I know that this fellow is a

563
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:02,450
Speaker 1: asshole. It was very toxic. Er But

564
00:28:02,940 --> 00:28:06,030
Speaker 1: it gives me a lot of things to learn. It

565
00:28:06,030 --> 00:28:07,930
Speaker 1: gives me a lot of things to learn. It also

566
00:28:07,940 --> 00:28:09,770
Speaker 1: gave me a lot of things that

567
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 1: are still happening in my life now. The good things. Yeah.

568
00:28:13,490 --> 00:28:16,180
Speaker 1: I understand. Okay. So this guy that you are talking

569
00:28:16,180 --> 00:28:18,550
Speaker 1: about the one that you learn things from. As in

570
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:23,350
Speaker 1: you guys classify it as a relationship or exclusive dating

571
00:28:23,350 --> 00:28:23,670
Speaker 1: a lot.

572
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:28,820
Speaker 1: I don't classify a relationship only because I feel like

573
00:28:28,820 --> 00:28:31,949
Speaker 1: when you walk into it and know that nothing is

574
00:28:31,950 --> 00:28:35,170
Speaker 1: going to come out of it. It was a very

575
00:28:35,740 --> 00:28:38,770
Speaker 1: I mean my hippie ass right? So

576
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:43,660
Speaker 1: it's a very like you already know nothing is going

577
00:28:43,660 --> 00:28:46,490
Speaker 1: to come out of it. But you know what like

578
00:28:46,500 --> 00:28:50,190
Speaker 1: let's share this time I guess? Okay. Yeah and then

579
00:28:50,190 --> 00:28:53,140
Speaker 1: it got a bit longer than it should be and

580
00:28:53,140 --> 00:28:54,460
Speaker 1: then a bit more

581
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 1: feelings were involved that it should be as well. I

582
00:28:56,840 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 1: think it's like a young kind of YOLO YOLO.

583
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 1: I think that's how they know where millennials YOLO woman's. Ok, okay.

584
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,060
Speaker 1: But I'm happy that you've gotten out of it and

585
00:29:08,060 --> 00:29:10,420
Speaker 1: you have grown and you've learned so many things and

586
00:29:10,420 --> 00:29:14,010
Speaker 1: the good things are still in your life. Absolutely. Now

587
00:29:14,010 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 1: let's forget this person's name forever. That's right, yes. Okay.

588
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:20,170
Speaker 1: So um if you are healing from a breakup, always

589
00:29:20,170 --> 00:29:22,980
Speaker 1: remember it's okay to grief accepting the loss of your

590
00:29:22,980 --> 00:29:25,610
Speaker 1: relationship and all the painful feelings that come with it

591
00:29:25,620 --> 00:29:28,959
Speaker 1: is an important step towards recovering, right? Marcus how do

592
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:30,910
Speaker 1: you think? You know it's a good way to recover

593
00:29:30,910 --> 00:29:31,550
Speaker 1: from a breakup

594
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:34,270
Speaker 2: for me I'm guessing is writing songs. Yeah, it was

595
00:29:34,270 --> 00:29:36,350
Speaker 2: actually a song. So I wrote a song. It was

596
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,540
Speaker 2: uh it all starts from like maybe like from an epiphany,

597
00:29:39,540 --> 00:29:42,260
Speaker 2: like a certain moment. I remember I was just like

598
00:29:42,270 --> 00:29:45,930
Speaker 2: uh looking I was running so I was looking up

599
00:29:45,930 --> 00:29:48,580
Speaker 2: at the sky. I was wondering how how she was

600
00:29:48,580 --> 00:29:50,660
Speaker 2: doing and how she is and

601
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:52,850
Speaker 2: I thought that okay, maybe she's

602
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 2: under the same blue Skyla and also like with the

603
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,820
Speaker 2: skies who brings a lot of hope and of like

604
00:29:58,830 --> 00:30:01,410
Speaker 2: of change. So I thought like okay, you know what,

605
00:30:01,420 --> 00:30:04,050
Speaker 2: there's going to be a better better skies for us like,

606
00:30:04,540 --> 00:30:04,850
Speaker 2: like

607
00:30:05,530 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 1: that's so lovely, what is it? Because when I look

608
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:18,980
Speaker 1: at the sky I just a picture of it on

609
00:30:18,980 --> 00:30:24,100
Speaker 1: my instagram question, does she know that the songs about

610
00:30:24,110 --> 00:30:26,460
Speaker 2: uh I'm talking about

611
00:30:26,540 --> 00:30:31,720
Speaker 1: Wait was this the girl from 2016 now? She knows

612
00:30:31,730 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 1: she

613
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 2: knows she's funny. Sorry.

614
00:30:35,330 --> 00:30:39,940
Speaker 1: So this is a korean singer. He wrote a song right?

615
00:30:39,950 --> 00:30:43,140
Speaker 1: It's a very popular song and but the song is

616
00:30:43,140 --> 00:30:45,950
Speaker 1: not like a salty breakup song, it's more like a

617
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:50,450
Speaker 1: shit. I now see that you were everything okay.

618
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:52,750
Speaker 1: And he said right after the song came out every

619
00:30:52,750 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 1: single ex college, I thought he was joking

620
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:01,140
Speaker 1: except for the one, it was really about everybody else

621
00:31:06,380 --> 00:31:11,250
Speaker 1: except the one girl. Oh well the both are new.

622
00:31:11,250 --> 00:31:15,740
Speaker 1: The thing that he said about you. Yeah, yeah, I

623
00:31:15,750 --> 00:31:17,660
Speaker 1: agree with Marcus, you know like writing

624
00:31:17,740 --> 00:31:20,620
Speaker 1: down your thoughts and thoughts and I actually appreciate the

625
00:31:20,620 --> 00:31:23,110
Speaker 1: fact that you always share a lot of positive quotes

626
00:31:23,110 --> 00:31:25,540
Speaker 1: on instagram stories. Yeah, this is so right. A guy

627
00:31:25,540 --> 00:31:28,810
Speaker 1: I feel so follow him legion we Marcus yeah, he

628
00:31:28,810 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 1: always shares a lot of positive courts running. That's my

629
00:31:31,690 --> 00:31:34,260
Speaker 1: go to solution as well when I'm feeling from anything

630
00:31:34,270 --> 00:31:36,930
Speaker 1: just run into you forget about the person. Exactly because

631
00:31:36,940 --> 00:31:38,810
Speaker 1: it's existed to think about anything

632
00:31:38,930 --> 00:31:42,940
Speaker 2: that this idea of replacement theory right? If that's even

633
00:31:42,940 --> 00:31:43,660
Speaker 2: a theory like

634
00:31:43,740 --> 00:31:46,730
Speaker 2: because the person has taken up so much a big

635
00:31:46,730 --> 00:31:49,060
Speaker 2: part of your life. So there's gonna be a void,

636
00:31:49,070 --> 00:31:50,910
Speaker 2: so we're going to fill the void with if I

637
00:31:50,910 --> 00:31:54,350
Speaker 2: know like friends has just gone through a rough patch

638
00:31:54,350 --> 00:31:56,959
Speaker 2: to break up, I would want to avail myself,

639
00:31:57,340 --> 00:31:59,170
Speaker 2: you know, more to to the person because I know

640
00:31:59,170 --> 00:32:01,390
Speaker 2: that personally feel lonely will feel sad, so I don't

641
00:32:01,390 --> 00:32:04,790
Speaker 2: want them to be, you know, to think or behave destructively.

642
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:06,950
Speaker 2: So I think having close friends, you know, going to

643
00:32:06,950 --> 00:32:09,530
Speaker 2: a close friends that's when you need them the most

644
00:32:09,540 --> 00:32:11,970
Speaker 2: or pick up like a new hobby or spot that

645
00:32:11,970 --> 00:32:13,830
Speaker 2: you really wanted to do for a long time and

646
00:32:13,830 --> 00:32:15,060
Speaker 2: I think that all these are like

647
00:32:15,340 --> 00:32:17,460
Speaker 2: many practical things that you could do, but

648
00:32:17,540 --> 00:32:19,950
Speaker 2: it doesn't erase or so like the thoughts like but

649
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 2: it will it will help you to, I think go

650
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:23,060
Speaker 2: through it or it's

651
00:32:23,540 --> 00:32:26,770
Speaker 2: Yeah, just just just, just, maybe I stop getting so

652
00:32:26,780 --> 00:32:29,810
Speaker 1: agree spending time with friends focusing on self care, right?

653
00:32:29,810 --> 00:32:32,260
Speaker 1: Doesn't mean that you love. And I also think keeping

654
00:32:32,260 --> 00:32:34,910
Speaker 1: a balanced perspective is very important as well, try to

655
00:32:34,910 --> 00:32:36,950
Speaker 1: look at the relationship objectively, which

656
00:32:37,140 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 1: I think very, very well

657
00:32:38,970 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 2: with all the good stuff.

658
00:32:40,690 --> 00:32:44,950
Speaker 1: Oh, just bad stuff. Yes, putting all the blame for

659
00:32:44,950 --> 00:32:47,630
Speaker 1: the breakup on yourself or like doing them all on

660
00:32:47,630 --> 00:32:50,020
Speaker 1: your ex probably isn't going to help much. I think

661
00:32:50,020 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 1: things happen for a reason people come into your life

662
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:57,979
Speaker 1: for specific reasons and they leave reason, reason. Yeah. So

663
00:32:57,980 --> 00:33:00,210
Speaker 1: this next question is going to be tough to answer.

664
00:33:00,220 --> 00:33:04,050
Speaker 1: Should keyword, should you be friends with your ex?

665
00:33:04,540 --> 00:33:09,740
Speaker 1: 123? Okay. Should you be friends with your ex? Okay.

666
00:33:09,750 --> 00:33:13,490
Speaker 1: In 321. No. Yes. A

667
00:33:13,500 --> 00:33:15,570
Speaker 2: Yeah.

668
00:33:15,700 --> 00:33:21,860
Speaker 1: A Yeah. Okay. All right.

669
00:33:23,150 --> 00:33:29,690
Speaker 1: I I I this is because only the relationship was

670
00:33:29,690 --> 00:33:32,020
Speaker 1: healthy and he's a keeper in your life as a

671
00:33:32,020 --> 00:33:34,070
Speaker 1: friend I think definitely, you know why not?

672
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,510
Speaker 2: True? Yeah, I mean I see. No, cause like I

673
00:33:36,510 --> 00:33:38,190
Speaker 2: think it was more of like if I want to

674
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,370
Speaker 2: be too close to my ex, let's say I start

675
00:33:40,370 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 2: dating someone, I don't think I can immediately like switch

676
00:33:43,290 --> 00:33:47,220
Speaker 2: out like just there and then it will take me

677
00:33:47,220 --> 00:33:49,170
Speaker 2: some time to do distance and this is not fair

678
00:33:49,170 --> 00:33:49,550
Speaker 2: to

679
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,300
Speaker 2: my ex. If I'm a friend with the person right

680
00:33:52,310 --> 00:33:55,410
Speaker 2: to suddenly like, oh, disappear from my life right from

681
00:33:55,410 --> 00:33:57,430
Speaker 2: from her life. So I think that's not fair. That's

682
00:33:57,430 --> 00:33:59,950
Speaker 2: not fair to both people. So I feel that like

683
00:33:59,960 --> 00:34:03,770
Speaker 2: I wouldn't love you, but then as I said, like

684
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,460
Speaker 2: up to you, this is my long answer,

685
00:34:06,470 --> 00:34:11,359
Speaker 1: very politically correct is up to you as well.

686
00:34:11,540 --> 00:34:17,320
Speaker 1: Yes. Yes. Um I think if your friends, your friends,

687
00:34:17,330 --> 00:34:19,720
Speaker 1: if you're not, you're not, but I think at the

688
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,350
Speaker 1: end of the day, you gotta find yourself for us.

689
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 1: For sure. I think when it comes to staying friends

690
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:25,850
Speaker 1: with your ex for me,

691
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:28,850
Speaker 1: even if it's just a friend, not a relationship or

692
00:34:28,850 --> 00:34:33,110
Speaker 1: anything like I really believe in cutting off toxic people

693
00:34:33,110 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 1: that didn't serve you and growing from that unfortunately most

694
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:38,890
Speaker 1: of my relationships have been toxic and therefore I cut

695
00:34:38,890 --> 00:34:42,489
Speaker 1: them off like and follow them, block them even just

696
00:34:42,489 --> 00:34:44,899
Speaker 1: remove them completely from my lives and I feel like

697
00:34:44,900 --> 00:34:45,469
Speaker 1: I can

698
00:34:45,540 --> 00:34:48,050
Speaker 1: move forward with my life faster that way. But that's

699
00:34:48,050 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 1: personally just formula. But I wonder if all these toxic

700
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:53,790
Speaker 1: people and relationships you've had in your life cause you

701
00:34:53,790 --> 00:34:55,810
Speaker 1: to be who you are today, A very kind and

702
00:34:55,810 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 1: genuine person and I think that very much may be true.

703
00:34:59,810 --> 00:35:02,590
Speaker 1: It may be true. I think you know, I also

704
00:35:02,590 --> 00:35:05,419
Speaker 1: contributed to the toxic relationship to I am not innocent

705
00:35:05,420 --> 00:35:06,260
Speaker 1: here as well, but

706
00:35:06,340 --> 00:35:08,739
Speaker 1: because I was able to cut them off and not

707
00:35:08,739 --> 00:35:11,430
Speaker 1: continuously be in that cycle of talking to them and

708
00:35:11,430 --> 00:35:13,980
Speaker 1: all that. I could just grow from that, right?

709
00:35:13,989 --> 00:35:17,060
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think like we always grow from failures and

710
00:35:17,060 --> 00:35:20,350
Speaker 2: stuff like that knowing that this has failed. So it

711
00:35:20,350 --> 00:35:22,740
Speaker 2: gives you like point us to note for like future,

712
00:35:22,750 --> 00:35:24,840
Speaker 2: what should I do, what you do? How are you

713
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:26,859
Speaker 2: going to work from that? You know, I have this

714
00:35:26,940 --> 00:35:29,020
Speaker 2: tendency I don't want to behave that way and then

715
00:35:29,020 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 2: you move move a Hitler. So there's always a reason

716
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:32,060
Speaker 2: as you said.

717
00:35:32,070 --> 00:35:34,660
Speaker 1: Absolutely. And I think jimmy but a very good point.

718
00:35:34,739 --> 00:35:38,180
Speaker 1: You should unfollow and unfriend that person for a while.

719
00:35:38,190 --> 00:35:40,410
Speaker 1: If it takes you some time to decide whether you

720
00:35:40,410 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 1: want to be friends with this person at least for

721
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,779
Speaker 1: the first few months after the breakup and follow so

722
00:35:44,780 --> 00:35:47,069
Speaker 1: that you don't see him in your life. You know,

723
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,720
Speaker 1: you get all your thoughts and space to yourself. What

724
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,180
Speaker 1: do I mentioned? Because self focused self care is very,

725
00:35:52,180 --> 00:35:54,009
Speaker 1: very important

726
00:35:54,020 --> 00:35:55,710
Speaker 2: function instagram how

727
00:35:55,739 --> 00:35:59,800
Speaker 1: you did a great function. Thank you. Yeah. So they

728
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,110
Speaker 1: don't they don't know that you have muted them but

729
00:36:02,110 --> 00:36:05,270
Speaker 1: they can still see that you're following there. So still respectful.

730
00:36:05,270 --> 00:36:08,629
Speaker 1: It's still nice. I think knowing your boundaries is very

731
00:36:08,630 --> 00:36:13,350
Speaker 1: important as well. They are important for couples turn friends.

732
00:36:13,430 --> 00:36:16,690
Speaker 1: A healthy boundary could look like something like let's not

733
00:36:16,690 --> 00:36:19,100
Speaker 1: talk every day, but let's check in with each other

734
00:36:19,100 --> 00:36:21,850
Speaker 1: every now and then. I think that's very healthy.

735
00:36:22,030 --> 00:36:24,130
Speaker 1: When I first broke up with myself. I feel like

736
00:36:24,130 --> 00:36:26,750
Speaker 1: my mother didn't know boundaries. She was texting him behind

737
00:36:26,750 --> 00:36:29,509
Speaker 1: my back every day while I was attached to someone else.

738
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:31,989
Speaker 1: You know, I was attached to someone else and she

739
00:36:31,989 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 1: was texting him like,

740
00:36:33,130 --> 00:36:35,830
Speaker 1: like how are you? You know? And they would text

741
00:36:35,830 --> 00:36:38,100
Speaker 1: back and forth for like just New Year and all that.

742
00:36:38,110 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 1: I didn't know what they're like four years later he

743
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:42,250
Speaker 1: would tell me Yeah, I used to text your mom

744
00:36:42,430 --> 00:36:48,420
Speaker 1: but there's a boundary you see? Yeah, I think

745
00:36:48,430 --> 00:36:52,770
Speaker 2: but I mean you couldn't control that kind of control that.

746
00:36:52,930 --> 00:36:55,540
Speaker 1: How often do you talk to Jordan?

747
00:36:56,130 --> 00:37:01,060
Speaker 1: How often? Let me check. Let me actually two days

748
00:37:01,060 --> 00:37:01,950
Speaker 1: ago instagram.

749
00:37:02,030 --> 00:37:05,320
Speaker 1: Okay, so we always like talk to each other. You

750
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,750
Speaker 1: start okay, but

751
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:09,020
Speaker 2: I think

752
00:37:09,300 --> 00:37:15,529
Speaker 1: Jordan's starts dating someone and they can't accept that not

753
00:37:15,530 --> 00:37:18,100
Speaker 1: that you're friends with Jordan's but that you are very

754
00:37:18,100 --> 00:37:21,710
Speaker 1: friendly with his parents, it makes them insecure. Then I

755
00:37:21,710 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 1: would see what Jordan says

756
00:37:23,630 --> 00:37:27,190
Speaker 1: because I think it's ultimately his call. If he's like me,

757
00:37:27,190 --> 00:37:30,370
Speaker 1: he thinks that then that person is in a keeper

758
00:37:30,380 --> 00:37:34,219
Speaker 1: right then no problem. But if he feels like his

759
00:37:34,219 --> 00:37:36,110
Speaker 1: he can take a step back. I definitely would. You

760
00:37:36,110 --> 00:37:39,270
Speaker 1: respect me? I'll respect that for sure. For sure. You know,

761
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,570
Speaker 1: I feel like I'll be friends with his future girlfriend

762
00:37:41,580 --> 00:37:45,590
Speaker 1: that kind of relationship because we are so healthy, So

763
00:37:45,590 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 1: friendly friends to begin with. I think that's important. But

764
00:37:49,230 --> 00:37:52,239
Speaker 1: also in a situation where let's say you have kids

765
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:54,700
Speaker 1: together access we have kids together. I think core parenting

766
00:37:54,700 --> 00:37:57,390
Speaker 1: is such a huge thing these days and honestly some

767
00:37:57,390 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 1: core parents have a better relationship than when they were true.

768
00:38:01,290 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 1: Exactly true. You really never know. Okay, so before we

769
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:08,430
Speaker 1: end talking about building trust in the new relationship after

770
00:38:08,430 --> 00:38:12,009
Speaker 1: the breakup it is very very important. So another 3

771
00:38:12,010 --> 00:38:14,250
Speaker 1: to 1 years? No question. Okay, is it a red

772
00:38:14,250 --> 00:38:17,939
Speaker 1: flag for new relationships if someone is friends with their ex,

773
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:22,260
Speaker 1: okay so you're about to be in a new relationship

774
00:38:22,260 --> 00:38:24,689
Speaker 1: someone but that person's friends and ex correct is there?

775
00:38:24,690 --> 00:38:26,150
Speaker 1: It's like yes, okay

776
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:27,509
Speaker 1: for you.

777
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 2: It's all right.

778
00:38:28,930 --> 00:38:35,950
Speaker 1: 32. No, I think give people the benefit of the doubt.

779
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 1: You know, you never want to cast judgment if you

780
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 1: don't know what their situation is. Yeah, I think it's

781
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:45,270
Speaker 1: completely fine. Especially if they know their boundaries. It's even

782
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:48,110
Speaker 1: I think a rather good sign that this person is

783
00:38:48,110 --> 00:38:51,529
Speaker 1: just you know emotionally mature. They're not Kathy and they

784
00:38:51,530 --> 00:38:55,730
Speaker 1: can see past the stuff that broke them up. So

785
00:38:55,739 --> 00:38:58,030
Speaker 1: I will know that this person is able to see

786
00:38:58,030 --> 00:39:01,940
Speaker 1: the good things. Oh what do you think she

787
00:39:01,940 --> 00:39:03,540
Speaker 2: really sees good in everything?

788
00:39:03,550 --> 00:39:04,490
Speaker 1: You know, it's a

789
00:39:04,489 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 2: very good attitude. I think I think reflect is very

790
00:39:09,770 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 2: it's like something that it's a deal breaker. So reflect.

791
00:39:13,930 --> 00:39:18,610
Speaker 2: You know, something that is really, really cannot accept. Like yeah,

792
00:39:18,620 --> 00:39:21,170
Speaker 2: you know like I don't know whatever it reflects our

793
00:39:21,180 --> 00:39:24,609
Speaker 2: so it's a bit harsh. So I think it's just

794
00:39:24,610 --> 00:39:26,149
Speaker 2: something that I will talk through,

795
00:39:26,219 --> 00:39:27,239
Speaker 2: it's something that I will

796
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:30,070
Speaker 2: definitely take note of but it's not like the extent

797
00:39:30,070 --> 00:39:33,810
Speaker 2: of being a reflect because I think we're all emotional beings.

798
00:39:33,810 --> 00:39:36,489
Speaker 2: You know we we have feelings, you know and you're

799
00:39:36,489 --> 00:39:40,180
Speaker 2: right like if the person also has that also say

800
00:39:40,180 --> 00:39:43,339
Speaker 2: something about them as well and like maybe also to

801
00:39:43,340 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 2: think of it positively there is like

802
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:47,540
Speaker 2: then, you know that the person, if the person really

803
00:39:47,540 --> 00:39:48,450
Speaker 2: loves then

804
00:39:48,820 --> 00:39:51,270
Speaker 2: be very correct because

805
00:39:51,270 --> 00:39:53,989
Speaker 1: honestly, I would fear someone who talks sh it about

806
00:39:53,989 --> 00:39:57,620
Speaker 1: the X mo Yeah, Yeah, yeah, Yeah, that's sure that's true.

807
00:39:57,620 --> 00:40:00,780
Speaker 1: And this week it goes to show that he's not mature,

808
00:40:00,790 --> 00:40:03,240
Speaker 1: he's a petty person and what he wanted you and

809
00:40:03,250 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 1: that doesn't break up. He's gonna be talking sh it

810
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 1: about you new girls.

811
00:40:08,410 --> 00:40:09,630
Speaker 1: Mm Yeah.

812
00:40:09,710 --> 00:40:12,710
Speaker 1: Alright, before we end off this episode, any last words

813
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 1: are advised our listeners out there.

814
00:40:15,910 --> 00:40:20,049
Speaker 1: Oh, okay. I guess I

815
00:40:20,060 --> 00:40:23,490
Speaker 2: guess uh dealing with break up, it's not easy. So

816
00:40:23,489 --> 00:40:26,399
Speaker 2: definitely give yourself some time do it. However you deal

817
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:28,759
Speaker 2: with it. Whether it's the situation between whether it's friends

818
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:30,800
Speaker 2: or not. I think it's up to you guys to decide.

819
00:40:30,810 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 2: You know, as we have discussed is just so many factors.

820
00:40:33,969 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 2: So I think

821
00:40:35,610 --> 00:40:38,780
Speaker 2: work it out between within yourself and also between your

822
00:40:38,780 --> 00:40:41,420
Speaker 2: partner and then discuss what is and come up with

823
00:40:41,420 --> 00:40:43,739
Speaker 2: something that you think would be would be Bessler.

824
00:40:44,210 --> 00:40:45,650
Speaker 1: So, I just want to share this quote that I

825
00:40:45,650 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 1: found online, it goes like this relationship status colon committed

826
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 1: to inner peace, growth, self love, and gratitude. I think

827
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:57,670
Speaker 1: this is very, very important and I hope all your

828
00:40:57,670 --> 00:40:59,529
Speaker 1: listeners out there can keep this in mind that,

829
00:40:59,610 --> 00:41:02,020
Speaker 1: you know, you are your own kings and queens and

830
00:41:02,020 --> 00:41:05,290
Speaker 1: you should definitely always put yourself first. Absolutely. I think

831
00:41:05,290 --> 00:41:08,060
Speaker 1: going through a breakup, you may feel like you know,

832
00:41:08,070 --> 00:41:10,230
Speaker 1: was I not enough. Did I not do enough? But

833
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:13,370
Speaker 1: always just validate your own feelings about it. You are

834
00:41:13,370 --> 00:41:17,570
Speaker 1: worthy and you deserve love, no matter what happened, that

835
00:41:17,570 --> 00:41:20,930
Speaker 1: reminds me of a prose that I really, really, really like.

836
00:41:20,940 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 1: So I'm not gonna read you the and I think

837
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:23,330
Speaker 1: it's quite long.

838
00:41:23,410 --> 00:41:26,150
Speaker 1: But basically it says that when someone comes into your life,

839
00:41:26,150 --> 00:41:27,330
Speaker 1: sometimes it's

840
00:41:27,510 --> 00:41:30,870
Speaker 1: like an angel being sent down of a halo to

841
00:41:30,870 --> 00:41:33,350
Speaker 1: save you at the time. You need it to give

842
00:41:33,350 --> 00:41:36,240
Speaker 1: you something at the time that you need and

843
00:41:36,610 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 1: you have to be careful because sometimes that angel is

844
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:41,540
Speaker 1: not yours to keep that when the time is up,

845
00:41:41,550 --> 00:41:43,890
Speaker 1: that when he has served its purpose, that he will

846
00:41:43,890 --> 00:41:49,320
Speaker 1: be removed. Just a very nice pros and I sort

847
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 1: of hold that so that also you know, it's sort

848
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:55,500
Speaker 1: of like place in line with seeing the good right?

849
00:41:55,500 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 1: And knowing that

850
00:41:56,710 --> 00:42:00,120
Speaker 1: everybody has its purpose in your life for a season

851
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 1: or reason. But when we are angels forever forever, we

852
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:19,690
Speaker 1: better not a reason for a season. Yeah, for a

853
00:42:19,690 --> 00:42:22,130
Speaker 1: reason or for a season. And I think that at

854
00:42:22,130 --> 00:42:23,230
Speaker 1: the end of the day

855
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:26,580
Speaker 1: if you're going through a breakup and let's say you

856
00:42:26,580 --> 00:42:28,840
Speaker 1: don't want to be friends. But I think you should

857
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,710
Speaker 1: remember that if that person needs you at that point,

858
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:34,300
Speaker 1: maybe for a while just to type them through, you know,

859
00:42:34,310 --> 00:42:37,660
Speaker 1: maybe you were really all that they had. Yeah, just

860
00:42:37,660 --> 00:42:39,779
Speaker 1: try and maybe be there for each other and know

861
00:42:39,780 --> 00:42:40,110
Speaker 1: that

862
00:42:40,300 --> 00:42:43,890
Speaker 1: you entered a relationship ship together. You're exiting it together

863
00:42:43,890 --> 00:42:46,550
Speaker 1: as well and you can still be there for each

864
00:42:46,550 --> 00:42:46,930
Speaker 1: other

865
00:42:47,100 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 1: just as transitional. That's okay. I agree. You know what's

866
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:53,530
Speaker 1: another good way to hear from a breakup listening to

867
00:42:53,540 --> 00:42:58,950
Speaker 1: good music? So Marcus talk about your new album. Okay,

868
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,319
Speaker 2: Okay, so recently I uh

869
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 2: I released an album, right? Yeah, I mean the most,

870
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:09,180
Speaker 2: the concept of it in english, it's called for you,

871
00:43:09,180 --> 00:43:11,060
Speaker 2: I can So it's a it's a it's a three

872
00:43:11,060 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 2: chapter

873
00:43:11,900 --> 00:43:16,280
Speaker 2: story of different parts of Lovelock. Okay,

874
00:43:16,460 --> 00:43:23,510
Speaker 1: so we have a special gift for you today. Okay,

875
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:26,330
Speaker 1: I'm so excited that we're gonna be playing for us.

876
00:43:26,340 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 1: I

877
00:43:27,170 --> 00:43:31,009
Speaker 2: don't want to be this way, actually, it's in chinese, okay,

878
00:43:31,300 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 2: but I wrote it in English as well. So the

879
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:37,940
Speaker 2: song is about the struggle between self love and self doubt.

880
00:43:37,950 --> 00:43:40,450
Speaker 2: So I think it also relates a little bit to

881
00:43:40,450 --> 00:43:43,060
Speaker 2: this because I think for me, so whether it's in

882
00:43:43,060 --> 00:43:45,010
Speaker 2: life or in love or so I also am someone

883
00:43:45,010 --> 00:43:47,890
Speaker 2: who kind of beat myself up. So this was like

884
00:43:47,900 --> 00:43:50,049
Speaker 2: this is written as an idea to like, you know,

885
00:43:50,060 --> 00:43:53,210
Speaker 2: I do acknowledge all these bad thoughts and I don't

886
00:43:53,210 --> 00:43:54,820
Speaker 2: want to feel or I don't want to

887
00:43:55,100 --> 00:43:57,609
Speaker 2: to be this way low and I want to say

888
00:43:57,610 --> 00:43:58,820
Speaker 2: yes to positively

889
00:43:59,100 --> 00:44:02,460
Speaker 2: yes, the positivity and no to all these negative things.

890
00:44:04,030 --> 00:44:04,870
Speaker 2: I

891
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:06,670
Speaker 1: don't want to be this way. Let's hear it

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Speaker 1: feel like you're so alone

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Speaker 1: and your heart feels like a star I think about

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Speaker 1: it not and day wondering

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Speaker 2: if he'll

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Speaker 1: be okay.

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Speaker 1: I'm here in this place once again suffocated, it's drowning

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Speaker 1: me 30.

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Speaker 1: I know I've got to stop. Stop, stop.

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Speaker 1: No, I don't want to be

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Speaker 1: wait.

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Speaker 1: Mhm.

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Speaker 1: A cruise captain. A lovely, lovely song. Mental healthy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean I released it also because like I

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Speaker 2: mean I realized that it was woman healthy, but also

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Speaker 2: as an encouragement to myself and also to

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Speaker 2: our listeners as well. And do you guys as well

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Speaker 2: always choose self Love yourself. Let's take care of our

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Speaker 2: mental health

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Speaker 1: for sure. Thank you so much Marcus, if you love

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Speaker 1: his music, you love his works. Don't forget to follow

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Speaker 1: him at legion way Marcus, there's L E J U

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Speaker 1: N W E. I Marcus,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for tuning into this episode of

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Speaker 1: calamities podcast. You gotta make sure you follow us on

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Speaker 1: wherever you consume your favorite podcast. Spotify me Listen Apple

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Speaker 1: podcast and find out when the next episode drops if

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Speaker 1: you prefer to watch this and visuals were on youtube

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Speaker 1: as well. Its clarity dot co you can comment with,

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Speaker 1: you know what you like, what the episode, what do

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Speaker 1: you want to see next? We're also on instagram at

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Speaker 1: its clarity dot co.

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Speaker 1: Um we usually post snippets. There highlights very nice quotes

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Speaker 1: as well and comment your number for Marcus. Yeah, once again,

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Speaker 1: I'm hazel, I'm jimmy.

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Speaker 2: Thank

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Speaker 1: you so much for tuning in. I.