WEBVTT - Can you ‘Exercise’ your Skin with Topicals?

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<v Speaker 1>Now, Health matters with Daniel Martin.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome into Health Matters right here on CN A 938.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Daniel Martin. So good to have your company. Everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me ask you this. Can you exercise your skin?

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<v Speaker 1>My guest today says you can. And with topicals at that,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna be learning a little bit more about the

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<v Speaker 1>difference between uh topicals that could be of a cosmetic

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<v Speaker 1>nature versus a cosmeceutical nature. And how this new

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<v Speaker 1>entrant in the crowded skin care scene in Singapore could

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<v Speaker 1>make a difference for you. Linda Jorgenson knows she's a

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<v Speaker 1>professional skin therapist for almost three decades now. And founder

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<v Speaker 1>and CEO of Nordic Formula. Linda, what a pleasure to

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<v Speaker 1>have you in Singapore?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, thank you, Daniel. So nice to meet you and

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<v Speaker 2>be here in Singapore. I love it. Even though if

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<v Speaker 2>it's a range

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<v Speaker 2>in this season,

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<v Speaker 1>this is nothing compared to your cold weather,

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<v Speaker 2>right? No, you know, we are Viking. So we are

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<v Speaker 2>used to go to 2025 minus degrees and still doing

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<v Speaker 2>ice baiting. I

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<v Speaker 1>love it. Let me ask you in terms of skin

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<v Speaker 1>conditions around the world around the region in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>your clients. What do you think right now in 2024

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<v Speaker 1>are the most pressing skin concerns.

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<v Speaker 2>Aging skin. Yeah. And when we talk about aging skin,

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<v Speaker 2>you have the problems like pigmentation, uh wrinkles of course

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<v Speaker 2>and saggy skin. But for me as a professional, my

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<v Speaker 2>concern or biggest issue now is inflammation and also the

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<v Speaker 2>sun exposure that damaged the skin and actually

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<v Speaker 2>skin

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<v Speaker 1>cancer. What causes inflammation of the skin,

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<v Speaker 2>the stress, the sun hormones and also pigmentation. Yeah, causes

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<v Speaker 2>inflammation in your skin.

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<v Speaker 1>We're facing a lot of those issues in Singapore being

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<v Speaker 1>on the equator with sun exposure. I think sun block

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<v Speaker 1>usage is not very regular in Singapore, especially amongst the

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<v Speaker 1>male population.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think are some of the biggest mistakes

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<v Speaker 1>people make when it comes to their skin health,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe not taking consciously choices, choosing their skin products and

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<v Speaker 2>they might start a little bit too late because when

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<v Speaker 2>you are in the twenties and early thirties, you don't

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<v Speaker 2>have that much skin problems. If you don't have acne problems,

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<v Speaker 2>then you don't go for the real aging skin products.

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<v Speaker 2>You might choose more maintenance

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<v Speaker 2>that hydration products. So I think we have to be

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<v Speaker 2>better in taking better choices and maybe seek for professional

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<v Speaker 2>help because educated skin therapist is educated to read your

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<v Speaker 2>skin's past, treat your skins present and also guide you

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<v Speaker 2>to a healthy skin future.

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<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of us are taken in by marketing.

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<v Speaker 1>What looks good? The hot new brand, the hot new product,

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<v Speaker 1>the social media influencer back

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<v Speaker 1>one, we're not doing our homework.

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<v Speaker 2>No, we don't and we get thrown or blown away

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<v Speaker 2>with these booms that comes, you know, you have different

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<v Speaker 2>kind of themes that coming up. But we really need

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<v Speaker 2>to think in the bottom line. What is the skin function?

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<v Speaker 2>What needs to give the skin in order to have

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<v Speaker 2>a skin function and a good

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<v Speaker 1>health? Please tell my listeners how it all began for

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<v Speaker 1>you when it came to your skincare line. How did

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<v Speaker 1>you decide from

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<v Speaker 1>being, you know, all about skin therapy and treating clients

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<v Speaker 1>of patients to starting the online, you

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<v Speaker 2>know, being in the business for almost 30 years now,

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<v Speaker 2>I've seen so much skin problems and skin concerns and

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<v Speaker 2>working with the good brands. I didn't find the ingredients

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<v Speaker 2>that really solved our problems. And as an ingredients nerd,

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<v Speaker 2>I researched it a lot. And in 2014, when I

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<v Speaker 2>started to read the research on my cream,

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<v Speaker 2>I found some interesting ingredients. So launching my first product

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<v Speaker 2>in 2017, I was one of the first using also Niaid.

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<v Speaker 2>It's vitamin B three, which is

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<v Speaker 1>a huge popular ingredient. Now, you were there before the

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<v Speaker 1>curve took off. Actually tell my listeners what is the

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<v Speaker 1>difference there between a cosmeceutical versus a cosmetic product.

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<v Speaker 2>Cosmetic products are more for the mass market

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<v Speaker 2>and they are safe to use. Even though if cosmeceutical

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<v Speaker 2>products are also safe to use, you might need a

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<v Speaker 2>better guidance.

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<v Speaker 2>And I would say that cosmeceutical products are a step

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<v Speaker 2>up from cosmetic products because it's more concentrated, more efficient

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<v Speaker 2>and it penetrates deeper to the skin. It really makes

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<v Speaker 2>a difference and has a action on the skin because

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<v Speaker 2>you know, our skin is fresh produced. So you really

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<v Speaker 2>need to exercise it and challenge it every day. Like

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<v Speaker 2>you need to exercise your body,

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<v Speaker 1>you say, and a big mantra of yours is that

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<v Speaker 1>you can exercise your,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you mean

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<v Speaker 2>how I mean by having cosmeceutical products, which has the

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<v Speaker 2>lower ph that increase the bacterias, the se production, lighten

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<v Speaker 2>up the skin because the skin cells actually disappear from

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<v Speaker 2>the skin earlier than it does by natural. So then

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<v Speaker 2>you also have a reaction in your skin. So the

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<v Speaker 2>dermis starts to work and the epidermis starts to do

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<v Speaker 2>the job. And both of them together

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<v Speaker 2>will have a younger look on your skin when they

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<v Speaker 2>actually working. You've

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<v Speaker 1>brought the range now into Singapore. It's available at the

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<v Speaker 1>Origa Spa at Capella in Singapore. Why does your range

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<v Speaker 1>only have three products right now? It is the day cream,

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<v Speaker 1>night cream and a serum, isn't it?

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<v Speaker 2>That's correct. And it might be a little bit the

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<v Speaker 2>Nordic way, ah, easy going and clean and efficient

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<v Speaker 2>and also having too many products on your skin is

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<v Speaker 2>not going to work. If you think that cream is

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<v Speaker 2>like doing a drink, uh Nordic formula is like a

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<v Speaker 2>shot because in a drink, you have amount of alcohol,

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<v Speaker 2>some essence or herbs and you fill it up with

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<v Speaker 2>tonic water. My opinion, if you layer with too many products,

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<v Speaker 2>you have too much tonic on your, on your skin.

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<v Speaker 2>So by reducing the tonic and have a more efficient ingredients,

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<v Speaker 2>you

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<v Speaker 2>have a better skin function

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<v Speaker 1>and you've been able to encapsulate sun protection into the

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<v Speaker 1>day cream as well. So no need for an external

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<v Speaker 1>SPF no,

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<v Speaker 2>but the most common wrong we do is that we

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<v Speaker 2>don't reapply the SPF and that's a very important thing

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<v Speaker 2>to do because SPF in the morning time does not

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<v Speaker 2>last on your skin for protection the whole day. So

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<v Speaker 2>I would say about four hours if you don't sunbathing

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<v Speaker 2>or sweat or take it away on your skin. So

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<v Speaker 2>reapply reapply nine o'clock, 12 o'clock, three o'clock.

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<v Speaker 1>Ok. I can remember that. 9, 12 and three. Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>Any unique ingredients or properties. I remember there was something

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<v Speaker 1>that was quite nordic in nature, a little berry or

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<v Speaker 1>something along those lines.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right. We have the sea back thorn and the

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<v Speaker 2>c back thorn contains a lot of C vitamins and

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<v Speaker 2>in no,

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<v Speaker 2>it's growing wild by the coastline. And you could say

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<v Speaker 2>if you eat one berry, it's the same as you

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<v Speaker 2>eat six oranges. So the concentration of vitamin C is

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<v Speaker 2>quite high and we have that in our serum and

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<v Speaker 2>in our day cream and we have a 3% of

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<v Speaker 2>the sea back thorn in the serum. And also with

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<v Speaker 2>a ph of 3.8

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<v Speaker 2>which is really good. If you have acne or pimples,

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<v Speaker 2>the lower ph will reduce that and control of the

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<v Speaker 2>S production. And we will have a skin

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<v Speaker 1>renew the secret ingredient. That's the magic

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<v Speaker 2>secret ingredients because usually the C vitamin products has to

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<v Speaker 2>be stabilized and the PH is much higher about six

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<v Speaker 2>or seven.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's quite unique that we have a formula with

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<v Speaker 2>a low PHS 3.8. And

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<v Speaker 1>don't, you usually have to refrigerate if it's a vitamin

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<v Speaker 1>C

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<v Speaker 2>inside. No, when we use the Cosme, you have stabilization

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<v Speaker 2>and conservation, but they can have a shorter

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<v Speaker 2>time. Has

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<v Speaker 1>there been any tweaks to the formula for the Asian

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<v Speaker 1>skin market?

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<v Speaker 2>No, actually because the Asian skin cells are actually the

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<v Speaker 2>same as a European skin cell. But it's the environment

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<v Speaker 2>that actually makes the differences in the skin condition.

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<v Speaker 2>So we have used a beauty panel test in Singapore

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<v Speaker 2>and they used all three products for three weeks and

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<v Speaker 2>they feed back to us that they felt improvement of firmness.

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<v Speaker 2>The even skin tone less dry,

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<v Speaker 2>smoother is working in the Asian skin environment. So we

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<v Speaker 2>are good to go because

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<v Speaker 1>I think so many of my listeners might be used

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<v Speaker 1>to trying to find what suits your skin type or

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<v Speaker 1>do I need to worry that this is for sensitive skin?

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<v Speaker 1>Is this for oily skin? Is this for dry skin?

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<v Speaker 1>But we don't need that

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<v Speaker 2>with this. No, you need to go cautions if you

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<v Speaker 2>are sensitive because your skin needs to recognize the new ingredients.

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<v Speaker 2>So what I recommend always is if you haven't used retinols,

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<v Speaker 2>you should start to use it maybe one or twice

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<v Speaker 2>a week before you step up and you can also

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<v Speaker 2>blend them together, then you buffer the cream or the efficient.

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<v Speaker 2>So

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<v Speaker 2>you, your skin gets too used to the ingredients and

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<v Speaker 2>the formula and then you can apply layer by layer

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<v Speaker 2>after a week or two. So we don't have retinols,

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<v Speaker 2>but we do have an acting retinol in the day cream.

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<v Speaker 2>It takes time to develop good products and there are

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<v Speaker 2>no cutting corners for my choices. So the day cream

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<v Speaker 2>I sent back to the laboratory 12 times before I

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<v Speaker 2>was happy with it. Now, we're good

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<v Speaker 2>to go. So it's important for me as a professional

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<v Speaker 2>skin therapist also to stand behind the ingredients and stand

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<v Speaker 2>behind the products. And even if it's a good cream

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<v Speaker 2>on the paper, it's important for me to also see

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<v Speaker 2>the results on the human skin. So that's why it

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<v Speaker 2>takes time to do clinical studies and see the results.

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<v Speaker 2>And we've done that with each of the products and

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<v Speaker 2>the age kit together as well, but you

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<v Speaker 1>formulated

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<v Speaker 1>something quite special for the Singapore market and the Singapore

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<v Speaker 1>audience at Origa Spa. You've developed the Northern Lights Facial again,

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<v Speaker 1>exclusive for the or spa as well. Why do this?

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<v Speaker 1>And what is it? And does it use your formulations?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes. You know, Ariga Spa, they want to be a

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<v Speaker 2>bit different and no formula is a bit different too

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<v Speaker 2>because it's going against the stream. Now, it's

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<v Speaker 2>only three products. So I wanted to create a treatment

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<v Speaker 2>that had visible signs of results in just one hour.

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<v Speaker 2>And for me, I took the Nordic philosophy by using

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<v Speaker 2>the heat and the coldness that we have in the

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<v Speaker 2>climate in Norway and bringing that into the treatment. And

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<v Speaker 2>what happens when you use cold and hot, you

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<v Speaker 2>start to have a circulation in your skin and you

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<v Speaker 2>reduce inflammation with the eucalyptus and the B three and

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<v Speaker 2>you moist the skin and also applying so much C

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<v Speaker 2>vitamin boost. During the treatment. You will actually, after one treatment,

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<v Speaker 2>we done clinical studies see a lightning effect in one treatment.

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<v Speaker 1>The naming of this is very intriguing. The northern light

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<v Speaker 1>signature facial. Does it take a lot of the inspiration

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<v Speaker 1>from the ao borealis or northern lights? Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>it does because we have some techniques using in the

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<v Speaker 2>treatment that you might experience. You experience the rain shower,

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<v Speaker 2>you experience a little bit of northern light by having

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<v Speaker 2>some special techniques and you will feel the coldness and

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<v Speaker 2>the warmness from our weather, also the climate in Norway.

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<v Speaker 2>So a combination,

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<v Speaker 1>it works on this one formulation, which is again only

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<v Speaker 1>available at the bar that Capella and that's where your

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<v Speaker 1>products are also available. And it's been such a pleasure.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope you've enjoyed your time in Singapore. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think you've helped my listeners to perhaps become a bit

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<v Speaker 1>more invested in learning about their skin health care. So,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you so much for your time. Thank

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<v Speaker 2>you so much for having

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<v Speaker 1>me, Linda Igen and there who is a professional skin

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<v Speaker 1>therapist founder and CEO of Nordic Formula. Can you exercise

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<v Speaker 1>your skin with? Topical? Sounds like you can. I'm Daniel

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<v Speaker 1>Martin for health matters.

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<v Speaker 1>Before making any decisions based on the information in our program,

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<v Speaker 1>please consult a medical professional.