1 00:00:02,890 --> 00:00:05,530 Speaker 1: When you have a crush, sometimes you text them, right. 2 00:00:05,539 --> 00:00:07,780 Speaker 1: But you're like, oh sorry, wrong chat. I did that 3 00:00:07,789 --> 00:00:09,549 Speaker 1: so many times. I did it so many times. No, no, 4 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:11,689 Speaker 1: you cannot do like hi. Oh my God. Wrong chat cannot, 5 00:00:11,699 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: you must reply like mid conversation. So I was quite 6 00:00:13,810 --> 00:00:15,989 Speaker 1: high level. I'll be like, OK, see you later. Oh 7 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: my God, sorry, wrong. I was talking to 8 00:00:19,690 --> 00:00:23,128 Speaker 1: Joey. I have to confess something to you. I've heard 9 00:00:23,139 --> 00:00:25,559 Speaker 1: this secret for almost 12 years now and it haunts 10 00:00:25,569 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: me every night. I'm so scared like my height. I 11 00:00:28,450 --> 00:00:29,399 Speaker 1: want to vomit. 12 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:39,330 Speaker 2: Hi guys. Welcome to another episode of the Hot Pot 13 00:00:39,340 --> 00:00:42,269 Speaker 2: where we hop into different transitions in life. I'm Nick. 14 00:00:42,279 --> 00:00:42,630 Speaker 2: I'm K, 15 00:00:42,869 --> 00:00:46,240 Speaker 1: I'm Joey. And today we are going to talk about 16 00:00:46,250 --> 00:00:49,610 Speaker 1: the evolution of social media and how it differs between 17 00:00:49,619 --> 00:00:53,180 Speaker 1: Gen Z and millennials. It is giving my space and 18 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:55,020 Speaker 1: Boomer Facebook. Oh my God. 19 00:00:55,125 --> 00:00:58,075 Speaker 1: It's my scene. Know what I mean? You know 20 00:00:58,174 --> 00:01:02,104 Speaker 2: it's still there to say I boom. Oh my God. 21 00:01:02,165 --> 00:01:07,184 Speaker 1: You remember about Tumblr to the Emo days live journal blogger. 22 00:01:07,194 --> 00:01:09,914 Speaker 2: Tumbler really put me in touch with my emotions. Oh 23 00:01:09,925 --> 00:01:10,095 Speaker 2: my 24 00:01:10,105 --> 00:01:10,214 Speaker 2: God. 25 00:01:10,224 --> 00:01:12,665 Speaker 1: You know, got this post, right? She believed then is 26 00:01:12,675 --> 00:01:13,014 Speaker 1: he 27 00:01:14,669 --> 00:01:16,879 Speaker 1: real eyes, real eyes, 28 00:01:16,889 --> 00:01:17,769 Speaker 1: real eyes, 29 00:01:17,849 --> 00:01:22,510 Speaker 2: you know the Billie Eilish? She's broken. He's ok. I 30 00:01:22,809 --> 00:01:22,949 Speaker 2: felt that 31 00:01:23,190 --> 00:01:24,179 Speaker 1: I love you 32 00:01:24,190 --> 00:01:27,559 Speaker 1: and I never let you go. But if I have to, 33 00:01:27,589 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 1: I think all the gen Z have no idea what 34 00:01:29,489 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 1: we were just like. I don't know this. They w 35 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:33,929 Speaker 1: they don't leave the 36 00:01:33,940 --> 00:01:34,870 Speaker 2: episode we 37 00:01:35,169 --> 00:01:35,339 Speaker 1: talk about. 38 00:01:38,615 --> 00:01:43,365 Speaker 1: Oh, ok. So starting off, how much do you use 39 00:01:43,375 --> 00:01:44,205 Speaker 1: social media? Quite a 40 00:01:44,215 --> 00:01:47,316 Speaker 2: lot. I think I be addicted. I love the dopamine. Yeah, 41 00:01:47,325 --> 00:01:50,015 Speaker 1: man. There was a phase where I realized like my 42 00:01:50,026 --> 00:01:52,396 Speaker 1: screen time for Instagram and Tik Tok photo, right? Was 43 00:01:52,405 --> 00:01:52,934 Speaker 1: like five 44 00:01:52,945 --> 00:01:53,736 Speaker 1: hours. 45 00:01:53,746 --> 00:01:54,036 Speaker 2: There's a lot, 46 00:01:54,596 --> 00:01:55,166 Speaker 1: there's a lot. 47 00:01:55,416 --> 00:01:56,005 Speaker 2: I don't 48 00:01:56,265 --> 00:01:58,416 Speaker 1: OK. To me it's OK. OK. OK. Then 49 00:01:58,512 --> 00:02:01,141 Speaker 1: tried to reduce it didn't last very long. I realized 50 00:02:01,152 --> 00:02:04,522 Speaker 1: Tik Tok was a problem when I realized I scroll 51 00:02:04,531 --> 00:02:05,391 Speaker 1: for eight hours 52 00:02:05,402 --> 00:02:07,421 Speaker 2: nonstop, nonstop but unbroken. You never go to 53 00:02:07,541 --> 00:02:10,302 Speaker 1: like maybe I scroll, I go toilet, I take a snack. 54 00:02:10,311 --> 00:02:13,451 Speaker 1: I scroll. Then I realized the clock went from like 55 00:02:13,462 --> 00:02:14,212 Speaker 1: 11 to 56 00:02:14,222 --> 00:02:14,932 Speaker 1: seven 57 00:02:15,042 --> 00:02:15,870 Speaker 2: pm to AM, 58 00:02:15,981 --> 00:02:16,921 Speaker 1: 11 59 00:02:16,931 --> 00:02:19,810 Speaker 1: AM to seven pm the whole day. I just text, 60 00:02:19,822 --> 00:02:20,611 Speaker 1: I go back to talk. 61 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:22,970 Speaker 1: I text again. Maybe I see something I go and 62 00:02:22,979 --> 00:02:24,329 Speaker 1: research like, oh interesting. 63 00:02:24,339 --> 00:02:26,089 Speaker 2: But it's a no, it, no, 64 00:02:26,429 --> 00:02:30,049 Speaker 1: but I realized it was bad for me when I 65 00:02:30,059 --> 00:02:32,589 Speaker 1: brought my phone while I was looking at tiktok to 66 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:34,859 Speaker 1: go toilet. I do and then I close the door. 67 00:02:34,869 --> 00:02:36,020 Speaker 1: Then I sit down while 68 00:02:36,029 --> 00:02:37,750 Speaker 2: scrolling. Ok. But you shooting or you peeing 69 00:02:37,758 --> 00:02:38,559 Speaker 1: both? 70 00:02:38,899 --> 00:02:41,380 Speaker 2: Because if you should think, I understand you need some entertainment. 71 00:02:41,740 --> 00:02:45,698 Speaker 2: Yes. But ping 30 seconds I feel like can put a, 72 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:48,649 Speaker 2: I was addicted because then after that, like your phone, 73 00:02:48,669 --> 00:02:50,740 Speaker 2: that I feel very judged. 74 00:02:50,758 --> 00:02:53,279 Speaker 1: Why? Because I bring my phone to pee and she 75 00:02:53,288 --> 00:02:57,190 Speaker 1: and shower, shower, shower. I will know I'll put that 76 00:02:57,199 --> 00:02:58,399 Speaker 1: your phone is quite waterproof 77 00:02:58,740 --> 00:02:59,619 Speaker 2: but then you can touch 78 00:02:59,630 --> 00:02:59,758 Speaker 2: me. 79 00:03:00,038 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: So I would just have a mini tower. I like 80 00:03:01,729 --> 00:03:02,029 Speaker 1: that 81 00:03:03,059 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: that if I really need a shampoo at the same 82 00:03:05,008 --> 00:03:05,990 Speaker 1: video will replay over and 83 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 1: over. 84 00:03:06,089 --> 00:03:07,070 Speaker 2: What's your shampoo gesture 85 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:08,309 Speaker 1: again when I shampoo, 86 00:03:09,850 --> 00:03:14,388 Speaker 1: he was scared. This episode is going to be a 87 00:03:14,399 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: bit messy. I can really, 88 00:03:17,199 --> 00:03:20,209 Speaker 2: I would just like every week I share the you 89 00:03:20,220 --> 00:03:22,970 Speaker 2: got watch ID story. That's about it. 90 00:03:22,979 --> 00:03:23,729 Speaker 1: Don't like 91 00:03:23,860 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 1: like only when he travels or just come back from traveling, 92 00:03:27,610 --> 00:03:30,179 Speaker 1: then he will suddenly become like set blue at it. 93 00:03:30,410 --> 00:03:31,990 Speaker 1: Oh yeah. No, then he will do this. 94 00:03:34,089 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 1: Your boss at that. Then Hong Kong for the 95 00:03:38,089 --> 00:03:39,130 Speaker 1: location there. 96 00:03:39,139 --> 00:03:41,460 Speaker 2: I think I was an early adopter of me. 97 00:03:42,860 --> 00:03:44,639 Speaker 1: This one is a very big segue 98 00:03:44,789 --> 00:03:46,270 Speaker 2: because like you just do that 99 00:03:47,500 --> 00:03:51,770 Speaker 1: for me. I think maybe years ago, I was quite 100 00:03:51,779 --> 00:03:55,350 Speaker 1: addicted to posting just to stay relevant. But I think 101 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:58,500 Speaker 1: now it's more so about for Tik Tok. I'm just 102 00:03:58,509 --> 00:04:00,199 Speaker 1: posting like my outfit, 103 00:04:02,009 --> 00:04:02,940 Speaker 2: the groom 104 00:04:03,270 --> 00:04:07,550 Speaker 1: a get ready with me, get ready the Yeah or 105 00:04:07,559 --> 00:04:11,130 Speaker 1: little like blocks, mini blocks just to like document with 106 00:04:11,139 --> 00:04:12,789 Speaker 1: my friends and good times 107 00:04:12,809 --> 00:04:14,470 Speaker 2: you don't voice over. 108 00:04:15,070 --> 00:04:17,700 Speaker 1: I don't like the voice over. Come with me. As 109 00:04:18,113 --> 00:04:20,804 Speaker 1: are you saying she weird. How dare you, you 110 00:04:20,815 --> 00:04:21,165 Speaker 1: do that? 111 00:04:21,225 --> 00:04:21,894 Speaker 2: I never come 112 00:04:21,904 --> 00:04:22,825 Speaker 1: with me as I 113 00:04:22,863 --> 00:04:24,625 Speaker 2: come with me as I go to Johor Bahru 114 00:04:24,803 --> 00:04:25,113 Speaker 2: for 115 00:04:25,125 --> 00:04:25,154 Speaker 1: the 116 00:04:25,165 --> 00:04:25,595 Speaker 2: day. 117 00:04:25,605 --> 00:04:28,095 Speaker 1: No, she's like, I, I really just posted the video. 118 00:04:29,665 --> 00:04:29,695 Speaker 1: I 119 00:04:29,704 --> 00:04:31,743 Speaker 1: didn't know, I didn't know 120 00:04:32,885 --> 00:04:33,505 Speaker 2: when 121 00:04:34,359 --> 00:04:37,029 Speaker 2: I like consuming voice over but I feel like for 122 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:38,510 Speaker 2: me to voice over, I feel a bit weird 123 00:04:38,549 --> 00:04:38,950 Speaker 1: but you 124 00:04:38,959 --> 00:04:41,720 Speaker 1: got the voice for it. You like come with me 125 00:04:41,890 --> 00:04:45,720 Speaker 1: as I make and I eat. Actually Nick, right? Has 126 00:04:45,730 --> 00:04:48,350 Speaker 1: once asked me, right? What kind of tiktok content can 127 00:04:48,359 --> 00:04:50,529 Speaker 1: I do if I do? Then I say I think 128 00:04:50,540 --> 00:04:53,058 Speaker 1: your house quite aesthetic maybe just feel yourself making a 129 00:04:53,070 --> 00:04:55,450 Speaker 1: cup of coffee in the morning like this is my 130 00:04:55,459 --> 00:04:58,969 Speaker 1: morning routine. Yeah. Don't do the mail like everything, you know, 131 00:04:58,980 --> 00:05:00,579 Speaker 1: they cut in like this 132 00:05:00,910 --> 00:05:07,940 Speaker 1: the orange. Yeah. Yeah. Why, why, why, why I mean 133 00:05:07,950 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 1: if you want to do that kind go for it. 134 00:05:09,829 --> 00:05:12,118 Speaker 1: But Joe and I will like kind of judge you 135 00:05:12,130 --> 00:05:14,700 Speaker 1: a little bit when you mentioned about posting, I suddenly 136 00:05:14,709 --> 00:05:17,539 Speaker 1: thought of IG stories. Don't you realize that? Now people 137 00:05:17,549 --> 00:05:19,719 Speaker 1: are very conscious about what they put on ig stories 138 00:05:19,730 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 1: and he has to look kind of low effort. You 139 00:05:22,649 --> 00:05:24,919 Speaker 1: cannot do boomerangs anymore. You know, I know, I don't 140 00:05:25,019 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 1: do that and you cannot do like a very 141 00:05:27,500 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 1: structured borders and text anymore. That's considered lame. Apparently because 142 00:05:31,450 --> 00:05:31,469 Speaker 2: you 143 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:32,399 Speaker 2: put too much effort. Right? 144 00:05:32,869 --> 00:05:34,979 Speaker 1: I think it's lame to find these things lame. How 145 00:05:34,988 --> 00:05:38,019 Speaker 1: about that? How about it? I feel like you do 146 00:05:38,029 --> 00:05:40,399 Speaker 1: what you like and if other people like it and 147 00:05:40,410 --> 00:05:42,979 Speaker 1: they like it then becomes a trend. Trend start when 148 00:05:42,988 --> 00:05:46,570 Speaker 1: someone is brave enough to try something new. Right? Let's 149 00:05:46,579 --> 00:05:49,540 Speaker 1: bring it back to our era when we were growing up. 150 00:05:49,649 --> 00:05:52,190 Speaker 1: What was social media like Facebook? 151 00:05:52,220 --> 00:05:53,359 Speaker 2: No friends? 152 00:05:54,850 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 1: Oh my God. Hello, 153 00:05:56,010 --> 00:05:56,829 Speaker 2: Testy, please. 154 00:05:57,869 --> 00:06:00,540 Speaker 1: Testimonial. Test, right? Testimonial for 155 00:06:00,549 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 2: me on friends, sir. Right back then which was the 156 00:06:02,928 --> 00:06:07,230 Speaker 2: precursor to Facebook. You could leave like testimonials for your 157 00:06:07,238 --> 00:06:09,719 Speaker 2: friends and then the testimonials will be mindless things like 158 00:06:09,730 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 2: that will appear on their friends page or their wall 159 00:06:12,329 --> 00:06:15,118 Speaker 1: today. Sarah and I went to the barber tea shop. 160 00:06:15,428 --> 00:06:19,459 Speaker 1: Yeah, by milk tea. Cool Station is reviews. It's basically, 161 00:06:19,529 --> 00:06:21,178 Speaker 1: oh my God, it's like linkedin reviews is 162 00:06:21,190 --> 00:06:24,618 Speaker 2: like linkedin testimonials. But for, for your friendship, I think 163 00:06:24,630 --> 00:06:26,010 Speaker 2: at that time, a lot of people didn't know what 164 00:06:26,019 --> 00:06:29,339 Speaker 2: like testes were like like balls, right? I was like, 165 00:06:29,350 --> 00:06:31,849 Speaker 2: do you not, do you not hear this? Because people 166 00:06:31,859 --> 00:06:33,899 Speaker 2: would just be like, oh my God, can you leave 167 00:06:33,910 --> 00:06:37,019 Speaker 2: me a test? They like just 11. 168 00:06:38,309 --> 00:06:38,719 Speaker 2: Hey wolf, 169 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:43,170 Speaker 2: then sometimes your friends the page, you can also like decorate, 170 00:06:43,238 --> 00:06:45,730 Speaker 2: decorate it. You can choose different templates. It's like a 171 00:06:45,738 --> 00:06:46,910 Speaker 2: one page block spot. 172 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:47,649 Speaker 1: You actually 173 00:06:47,660 --> 00:06:50,750 Speaker 1: had a little bit of like a little coding experience 174 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:54,010 Speaker 1: because you must change the html, right? Fun. OK. Not 175 00:06:54,019 --> 00:06:55,769 Speaker 1: so far. Last 176 00:06:55,779 --> 00:06:57,380 Speaker 2: night, I can make the tch board on my block 177 00:06:57,390 --> 00:06:58,929 Speaker 2: spot is coding man. 178 00:06:58,940 --> 00:06:59,630 Speaker 1: Last time I can 179 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:02,239 Speaker 1: make like stars falling down in the background a 180 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:05,570 Speaker 2: complicated by every Levi playing in the background. But 181 00:07:05,579 --> 00:07:05,609 Speaker 1: I 182 00:07:05,619 --> 00:07:08,928 Speaker 1: really felt a lot of comfort in block spot. 183 00:07:09,524 --> 00:07:14,295 Speaker 1: It was truly a diary where you boosted your ego 184 00:07:14,304 --> 00:07:16,274 Speaker 1: because your friends will come and then they are like 185 00:07:16,385 --> 00:07:18,644 Speaker 1: I leave a thing for you, right? I'm not gonna 186 00:07:18,654 --> 00:07:20,855 Speaker 1: lie right? During my secondary school phase, I think I 187 00:07:20,864 --> 00:07:22,035 Speaker 1: was quite a good blogger 188 00:07:22,095 --> 00:07:27,054 Speaker 2: popular or were you a micro influencer like region in 189 00:07:27,065 --> 00:07:30,375 Speaker 1: my boon, maybe my batch mates, maybe some of them 190 00:07:30,385 --> 00:07:33,904 Speaker 1: like like to read it. I quite funny back then. OK. 191 00:07:33,915 --> 00:07:38,214 Speaker 1: But let's talk about how we like to entertain ourselves. Why? Eight.com? 192 00:07:39,140 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 1: Your mail sounds familiar. Funny junk.com. Funny junk sounds a 193 00:07:43,609 --> 00:07:47,660 Speaker 1: bit funny junk, right? Is basically like nine get before 194 00:07:47,670 --> 00:07:48,010 Speaker 1: nine get 195 00:07:48,019 --> 00:07:52,739 Speaker 2: existed. A nine G nine E I nine G in 196 00:07:52,750 --> 00:07:53,910 Speaker 2: very long MS 197 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:54,049 Speaker 1: A 198 00:07:54,059 --> 00:07:58,700 Speaker 1: messenger. Do you? OK. OK. Say now say real when 199 00:07:58,709 --> 00:08:01,589 Speaker 1: you had a crush right off, off off. So you 200 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 1: pop up then you say hi to you. 201 00:08:03,220 --> 00:08:04,109 Speaker 2: I quite direct. I 202 00:08:04,119 --> 00:08:04,450 Speaker 1: just 203 00:08:04,459 --> 00:08:04,869 Speaker 2: nudge 204 00:08:07,660 --> 00:08:09,820 Speaker 1: the whole picture like that. Like, oh my God. You know, 205 00:08:09,829 --> 00:08:12,109 Speaker 1: I like to change the bio so that people will 206 00:08:12,119 --> 00:08:16,769 Speaker 1: notice me. No, you change your name and your sub bio, right? 207 00:08:16,779 --> 00:08:19,399 Speaker 1: To make one full lyric. Ok. I think I know 208 00:08:19,410 --> 00:08:21,279 Speaker 1: what you mean. Yeah. And then right when you have 209 00:08:21,290 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 1: a crush sometimes you text them. Right? But you're like, oh, sorry, 210 00:08:24,209 --> 00:08:24,510 Speaker 1: wrong chat. 211 00:08:25,220 --> 00:08:26,779 Speaker 1: I did that so many times I did it so 212 00:08:26,790 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 1: many times. No, no, you cannot do like hi. Oh 213 00:08:28,649 --> 00:08:31,369 Speaker 1: my God. Wrong check cannot, you must reply like meet conversation. 214 00:08:31,380 --> 00:08:32,900 Speaker 1: So I was quite high level. I'll be like, ok, 215 00:08:32,909 --> 00:08:35,059 Speaker 1: see you later. Oh my God, sorry. Wrong. I was 216 00:08:35,070 --> 00:08:35,539 Speaker 1: talking to 217 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 2: like last time. I don't know how right. But you 218 00:08:39,090 --> 00:08:41,179 Speaker 2: will be like this girl I show and then like 219 00:08:41,190 --> 00:08:43,969 Speaker 2: your friends will help you get like this person's email 220 00:08:43,979 --> 00:08:46,950 Speaker 2: and then pass to you. Then you can just add 221 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:47,619 Speaker 2: this person 222 00:08:47,979 --> 00:08:50,140 Speaker 2: and then like they will accept and then you just 223 00:08:50,150 --> 00:08:54,859 Speaker 2: talk to them. Ha ha. You are J church friend, right? Cool, cool. 224 00:08:54,869 --> 00:08:56,479 Speaker 2: Nice to meet you. Then you will just talk about 225 00:08:57,669 --> 00:08:59,939 Speaker 2: the OG like sliding into DM. 226 00:09:00,169 --> 00:09:00,900 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think 227 00:09:00,909 --> 00:09:05,650 Speaker 1: accessibility has changed the way we consume media also, right? 228 00:09:05,659 --> 00:09:06,919 Speaker 1: Like do you remember 229 00:09:07,135 --> 00:09:09,515 Speaker 1: waiting by the TV? For the seven o'clock and the 230 00:09:09,525 --> 00:09:11,684 Speaker 1: nine o'clock show? Yes. And then you wait 231 00:09:13,094 --> 00:09:14,284 Speaker 2: all about man. 232 00:09:15,534 --> 00:09:15,954 Speaker 1: Oh my God. 233 00:09:17,375 --> 00:09:19,205 Speaker 2: I like the, the gambling. 234 00:09:20,775 --> 00:09:22,164 Speaker 1: Then he shuffled like this. 235 00:09:22,174 --> 00:09:23,054 Speaker 2: She dies. Game 236 00:09:23,094 --> 00:09:26,065 Speaker 1: strong. You think was my idol first time? Yeah. 237 00:09:26,570 --> 00:09:27,709 Speaker 1: Hello, Nan Sing. 238 00:09:27,929 --> 00:09:28,929 Speaker 2: Come on the podcast, please. 239 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:31,530 Speaker 1: No, I get some coffee first. Then a 240 00:09:32,270 --> 00:09:32,549 Speaker 2: for them. 241 00:09:32,770 --> 00:09:35,969 Speaker 1: Yeah. But I realize now, like, you don't really wait 242 00:09:35,979 --> 00:09:39,890 Speaker 1: for episodes. Netflix releases all the whole season at once. Like, 243 00:09:39,900 --> 00:09:42,299 Speaker 1: that's so wild, right? But it's great. It's a great, 244 00:09:42,309 --> 00:09:43,530 Speaker 1: it's great. It's great. 245 00:09:44,455 --> 00:09:47,955 Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on this? Gen Z? Use Tik Tok. 246 00:09:47,965 --> 00:09:49,674 Speaker 1: Millennials use Instagram and 247 00:09:49,684 --> 00:09:50,294 Speaker 1: Facebook. 248 00:09:50,385 --> 00:09:51,223 Speaker 2: I never use Facebook. 249 00:09:51,505 --> 00:09:51,674 Speaker 1: I 250 00:09:51,684 --> 00:09:54,984 Speaker 1: also stopped using Facebook. I only use Facebook to check birthdays. 251 00:09:54,994 --> 00:09:57,664 Speaker 1: A lot of my friends are hiding their birthdays these days. 252 00:09:57,674 --> 00:09:59,275 Speaker 1: I think it's like they want to test you whether 253 00:09:59,284 --> 00:10:03,574 Speaker 1: you remember or not. I'll go and check. I know 254 00:10:03,585 --> 00:10:06,353 Speaker 1: it's around this area, right? But yeah. Yeah, I knew you. 255 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:10,739 Speaker 2: I use Facebook until quite recently because like through COVID, 256 00:10:10,750 --> 00:10:13,489 Speaker 2: I got into gardening, right? The Facebook groups are not 257 00:10:13,500 --> 00:10:17,690 Speaker 2: bad because like, especially like a older hobby, like gardening. 258 00:10:17,820 --> 00:10:22,330 Speaker 2: Then a lot of like the community is on Facebook. 259 00:10:22,340 --> 00:10:24,039 Speaker 1: But I think a lot of millennials are moving towards 260 00:10:24,049 --> 00:10:26,859 Speaker 1: Tik Tok these days. They realize, ok, I'm one of 261 00:10:26,869 --> 00:10:28,929 Speaker 1: those millennials that say I'll never be on 262 00:10:29,343 --> 00:10:34,283 Speaker 1: here. I am posting my Gr WM Groom and little blogs, 263 00:10:34,602 --> 00:10:37,523 Speaker 1: but it's truly like the place to be because I 264 00:10:37,533 --> 00:10:41,062 Speaker 1: feel like there's so many types of content there that 265 00:10:41,072 --> 00:10:44,392 Speaker 1: you can just easily search for and it just appears 266 00:10:44,593 --> 00:10:47,172 Speaker 1: you want to search about vitamins, you want to search 267 00:10:47,182 --> 00:10:50,052 Speaker 1: about your back pains. It's all there. I just mentioned 268 00:10:50,062 --> 00:10:50,593 Speaker 1: all the adult 269 00:10:51,005 --> 00:10:52,736 Speaker 1: like you just alter 270 00:10:52,745 --> 00:10:53,535 Speaker 1: yourself. Tik 271 00:10:53,546 --> 00:10:56,324 Speaker 2: Tok is the search engine and powerful. So now whenever 272 00:10:56,335 --> 00:10:59,375 Speaker 2: I do like research for like either tech products to 273 00:10:59,385 --> 00:11:03,955 Speaker 2: buy or like even travel, right? Like itinerary and things 274 00:11:03,966 --> 00:11:05,776 Speaker 2: to do, right? I will just search on Tik Tok 275 00:11:05,976 --> 00:11:08,356 Speaker 2: things to do so as like obscure as like I 276 00:11:08,366 --> 00:11:11,334 Speaker 2: want to see what my hotel room in. So looks 277 00:11:11,346 --> 00:11:12,245 Speaker 2: like before I book it 278 00:11:12,530 --> 00:11:14,419 Speaker 2: now I just search the hotel name right? Then they 279 00:11:14,429 --> 00:11:16,849 Speaker 2: really show me the entire rooms. I feel like Tik Tok, 280 00:11:16,859 --> 00:11:20,289 Speaker 2: the community can be quite toxic. Younger folks are quite brutal. 281 00:11:20,419 --> 00:11:20,429 Speaker 1: I 282 00:11:20,570 --> 00:11:21,650 Speaker 1: don't think it's just the younger 283 00:11:21,659 --> 00:11:22,460 Speaker 1: people or is 284 00:11:22,469 --> 00:11:25,580 Speaker 2: it just because it's anonymous? So it's very easy on 285 00:11:25,590 --> 00:11:28,919 Speaker 2: Tik Tok to create like a ghost account or like 286 00:11:28,929 --> 00:11:31,340 Speaker 2: a burner account. And then you can just randomly comment, 287 00:11:31,349 --> 00:11:34,109 Speaker 2: hit on like videos of people. Yeah. And then I 288 00:11:34,119 --> 00:11:36,900 Speaker 2: think that coupled with the fact that like last time 289 00:11:36,909 --> 00:11:39,150 Speaker 2: right on friends to Facebook and things like that 290 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:42,210 Speaker 2: you need to like add a person as a friend, 291 00:11:42,219 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 2: then they will have access to your content, be able 292 00:11:44,010 --> 00:11:46,020 Speaker 2: to comment on your content and stuff like that. There 293 00:11:46,030 --> 00:11:48,630 Speaker 2: are of course like people who were like screenshot your 294 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:51,380 Speaker 2: post and then go and share elsewhere, right? And that's 295 00:11:51,390 --> 00:11:53,500 Speaker 2: how things used to go viral on Facebook 296 00:11:54,599 --> 00:11:57,699 Speaker 2: before they even had the share function. But like on 297 00:11:57,710 --> 00:11:59,729 Speaker 2: Tik Tok is that when you post, everybody can see 298 00:12:00,010 --> 00:12:03,460 Speaker 1: people can repost, I think with how accessible the internet 299 00:12:03,469 --> 00:12:07,140 Speaker 1: is nowadays, it's beyond your control. Not that we had 300 00:12:07,250 --> 00:12:10,169 Speaker 1: any control in the past, but it's a little bit 301 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:12,559 Speaker 1: more in a controlled environment. 302 00:12:13,145 --> 00:12:16,375 Speaker 1: But now on Tik Tok, it's like there are child stars. 303 00:12:16,385 --> 00:12:19,164 Speaker 1: I think that's wild. So for us young millennials, we 304 00:12:19,174 --> 00:12:22,294 Speaker 1: are quite close to the Gen Z age, right? So 305 00:12:22,304 --> 00:12:24,614 Speaker 1: we are a bit in between in that our consumption 306 00:12:24,625 --> 00:12:27,815 Speaker 1: habits are a little bit of both. I feel like 307 00:12:27,825 --> 00:12:31,375 Speaker 1: we can consume both long form and short form content. 308 00:12:31,729 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 1: But older millennials might find that the content that is 309 00:12:34,890 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 1: being made now is too fast paced. The cuts are 310 00:12:37,010 --> 00:12:40,299 Speaker 1: too fast and they cannot catch on the screen and 311 00:12:40,309 --> 00:12:43,140 Speaker 1: I why the things zoom here in there, right? Then 312 00:12:43,150 --> 00:12:45,380 Speaker 1: the Gen Zs when they watch the content, we used 313 00:12:45,390 --> 00:12:47,960 Speaker 1: to watch the little pauses in between that you fix 314 00:12:47,969 --> 00:12:50,719 Speaker 1: your hair and you talk right? Always all being cut out. 315 00:12:50,770 --> 00:12:52,549 Speaker 2: No, then they always make fun. They say the millennial 316 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:53,599 Speaker 2: pause the 317 00:12:54,250 --> 00:12:54,489 Speaker 1: hey 318 00:12:54,500 --> 00:12:55,119 Speaker 1: guys, 319 00:12:57,400 --> 00:13:00,469 Speaker 1: it's true. And I was having this conversation with my 320 00:13:00,479 --> 00:13:03,728 Speaker 1: friend because when we teach Children, we can literally see 321 00:13:03,739 --> 00:13:06,809 Speaker 1: right that they are so used to being stimulated at 322 00:13:06,820 --> 00:13:10,789 Speaker 1: such a high rate that they drop out attention very quickly. 323 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:13,450 Speaker 1: So I heard this like the conversation, they talk about 324 00:13:13,460 --> 00:13:14,070 Speaker 1: five topics 325 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:17,309 Speaker 1: within one minute and I'm like, oh my God, this 326 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:19,770 Speaker 1: is a lot. We tend to multitask a bit. Sometimes 327 00:13:19,780 --> 00:13:22,079 Speaker 1: I'm watching a youtube video on Netflix show, right? I'm 328 00:13:22,090 --> 00:13:24,619 Speaker 1: scrolling on Tik Tok or just scrolling on Instagram, Instagram 329 00:13:24,630 --> 00:13:27,969 Speaker 1: just to keep up with everyone. Everything I felt I 330 00:13:27,979 --> 00:13:32,260 Speaker 1: was wasting time just staring at a boring scene. So 331 00:13:32,270 --> 00:13:36,250 Speaker 1: are we as a result being more stingy with our time? 332 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:38,739 Speaker 2: Yeah, but time in valuable, I think 333 00:13:38,750 --> 00:13:41,479 Speaker 1: we are being over stimulated though. That's not a normal 334 00:13:41,489 --> 00:13:43,580 Speaker 1: way to do things like humans are not supposed to 335 00:13:43,590 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 1: be that stimulating. I think 336 00:13:44,650 --> 00:13:47,119 Speaker 2: if you can code switch and if you are in 337 00:13:47,130 --> 00:13:50,239 Speaker 2: control of like your own attention span, right then I 338 00:13:50,250 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 2: think so. 339 00:13:50,530 --> 00:13:51,690 Speaker 1: Ok. Speaking of 340 00:13:51,700 --> 00:13:54,429 Speaker 1: getting information online, right? Do you feel like we are 341 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:58,319 Speaker 1: being too reliant on social media now as a new source, 342 00:13:58,330 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 1: like really credible news source are on tiktok now and 343 00:14:03,380 --> 00:14:05,059 Speaker 1: a lot of the youths as a result 344 00:14:05,215 --> 00:14:08,625 Speaker 1: are very updated with current affairs sometimes even more so 345 00:14:08,635 --> 00:14:11,645 Speaker 1: than the adults. Whereas during our time, right? I don't 346 00:14:11,655 --> 00:14:13,625 Speaker 1: know why is printer on straits times? Even if it's 347 00:14:13,635 --> 00:14:15,164 Speaker 1: on the front cover, I can see the paper, I 348 00:14:15,174 --> 00:14:17,025 Speaker 1: don't know what's going on as a kid. I wasn't 349 00:14:17,034 --> 00:14:19,934 Speaker 1: very well informed on current affairs and I feel like 350 00:14:19,945 --> 00:14:22,695 Speaker 1: now I know what's going on in every part of 351 00:14:22,705 --> 00:14:25,304 Speaker 1: the world. OK. Not every single but my global world 352 00:14:25,315 --> 00:14:28,005 Speaker 1: view is very updated because of one. I think that's 353 00:14:28,015 --> 00:14:31,005 Speaker 2: crazy in terms of being reliant on social media as 354 00:14:31,015 --> 00:14:32,215 Speaker 2: a new source, right? 355 00:14:32,630 --> 00:14:34,460 Speaker 2: I feel like there's two different things that you need 356 00:14:34,469 --> 00:14:37,809 Speaker 2: to look at. One is like whether like pre social media, 357 00:14:37,820 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 2: how aware you are, which is what you were saying. 358 00:14:40,770 --> 00:14:43,929 Speaker 2: Then the other thing is like credibility. So people always 359 00:14:43,940 --> 00:14:46,450 Speaker 2: slam like, how can you get your news from Tik Tok? 360 00:14:46,460 --> 00:14:51,830 Speaker 2: Then you realize that every single news source is never 100% unbiased. 361 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:51,950 Speaker 2: I 362 00:14:52,059 --> 00:14:54,119 Speaker 2: I think the main problem that a lot of people face, right? 363 00:14:54,299 --> 00:14:56,359 Speaker 2: That a lot of people have is that I see 364 00:14:56,369 --> 00:14:58,099 Speaker 2: one Tik Tok, right? And then I make my mind 365 00:14:58,109 --> 00:15:01,159 Speaker 2: up about something straight away like, oh that's that messed up. 366 00:15:01,169 --> 00:15:03,859 Speaker 2: But actually like, do you really like go and read 367 00:15:03,869 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 2: the different views and things like that? 368 00:15:05,969 --> 00:15:10,669 Speaker 1: Are Gen Z's over sharer on the internet? And do 369 00:15:10,679 --> 00:15:11,159 Speaker 1: you think that 370 00:15:12,260 --> 00:15:14,750 Speaker 2: I think so, I feel like there's a lot of 371 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 2: them that really places a very high emphasis and prioritizes 372 00:15:19,049 --> 00:15:21,750 Speaker 2: or I need to update people on what I'm doing. 373 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:25,289 Speaker 2: But I think like us as millennials also used to 374 00:15:25,299 --> 00:15:28,599 Speaker 2: do that and like even like the older, like Boomers, 375 00:15:28,609 --> 00:15:30,599 Speaker 2: for example, on Facebook, they also have a tendency to 376 00:15:30,609 --> 00:15:32,859 Speaker 2: do that. So I don't think that is Gen Z 377 00:15:32,869 --> 00:15:36,020 Speaker 2: but I feel like there's a specific subset of every 378 00:15:36,030 --> 00:15:38,849 Speaker 2: generation that is like that. Like I want people to 379 00:15:38,859 --> 00:15:39,989 Speaker 2: care about what I'm doing. 380 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:42,099 Speaker 1: I think our over sharing last time was more like, oh, 381 00:15:42,109 --> 00:15:45,219 Speaker 1: we broke up with this XXX person. But now it's 382 00:15:45,229 --> 00:15:45,719 Speaker 1: like 383 00:15:46,260 --> 00:15:51,479 Speaker 1: them sharing about their sexual desires and their body parts. 384 00:15:51,489 --> 00:15:53,239 Speaker 1: Sometimes it's also about, 385 00:15:54,159 --> 00:15:57,469 Speaker 1: for example, I like giving it. Then they will describe 386 00:15:57,479 --> 00:16:00,630 Speaker 1: how it is and you open comments and people will 387 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:03,289 Speaker 1: be like, wow, people are really over sharing these days. 388 00:16:03,349 --> 00:16:06,830 Speaker 1: And I think they tend to forget about the digital 389 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:09,609 Speaker 1: footprint that this content piece, right can be on the 390 00:16:09,619 --> 00:16:10,700 Speaker 1: internet forever. 391 00:16:10,729 --> 00:16:11,030 Speaker 2: So next 392 00:16:11,039 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 2: time you applying for a job, then you go and 393 00:16:13,969 --> 00:16:16,510 Speaker 2: do background check, then they find your ti talk about 394 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:18,909 Speaker 2: you talking about your sexual desires, which I think is 395 00:16:18,919 --> 00:16:20,950 Speaker 2: quite wild because in my mind then is like, oh, 396 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:21,849 Speaker 2: if this person 397 00:16:22,099 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 2: as a prospective employee can be over sharing about like 398 00:16:25,409 --> 00:16:29,270 Speaker 2: their sex life, then is there a risk that they 399 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:31,429 Speaker 2: might over share confidential company information? 400 00:16:32,010 --> 00:16:35,599 Speaker 1: And I do want to touch on how over sharing 401 00:16:35,609 --> 00:16:40,119 Speaker 1: on sexual desires is very different from educating about sex. Yes. 402 00:16:40,130 --> 00:16:42,619 Speaker 1: If you start talking about intimate details about you and 403 00:16:42,630 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 1: your partner or you and a random guy, then I 404 00:16:44,650 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 1: think it's not very 405 00:16:46,369 --> 00:16:50,859 Speaker 1: presentable. I think comfort levels are very different also because 406 00:16:50,909 --> 00:16:54,309 Speaker 1: what we were seeing last time was way more conservative. 407 00:16:54,409 --> 00:16:57,380 Speaker 1: And so as a result, our idea of what is 408 00:16:57,390 --> 00:16:59,289 Speaker 1: OK to talk about is so different, 409 00:16:59,299 --> 00:17:01,909 Speaker 2: but something that I thought was quite interesting and I 410 00:17:01,919 --> 00:17:05,869 Speaker 2: think is a good thing was they film themselves getting 411 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:09,750 Speaker 2: laid off or film themselves getting fired often themselves, like 412 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:13,419 Speaker 2: in an unreasonable interaction with their, their coworkers and their 413 00:17:13,430 --> 00:17:14,550 Speaker 2: bosses and things like that. 414 00:17:15,098 --> 00:17:16,859 Speaker 2: I think that's quite good because it brings to light 415 00:17:16,869 --> 00:17:19,458 Speaker 2: like a culture that is not talked about enough like 416 00:17:19,468 --> 00:17:21,708 Speaker 2: where there's people always talk about all this will play 417 00:17:21,718 --> 00:17:23,619 Speaker 2: toxic and then like what do you mean by toxic? 418 00:17:23,629 --> 00:17:26,288 Speaker 2: So stuff like that, that kind of over sharing. I 419 00:17:26,298 --> 00:17:29,457 Speaker 2: feel really shines a spotlight on like what a toxic 420 00:17:29,468 --> 00:17:33,259 Speaker 2: work environment is like and then people will realize that like, 421 00:17:33,269 --> 00:17:35,119 Speaker 2: oh yeah, actually this is not acceptable 422 00:17:36,369 --> 00:17:37,438 Speaker 1: question. 423 00:17:38,709 --> 00:17:41,780 Speaker 2: OK? So today's questions are from our NGL. So these 424 00:17:41,790 --> 00:17:45,979 Speaker 2: questions are from you. If you want to ask us questions, 425 00:17:45,989 --> 00:17:49,540 Speaker 2: you can head on over to you got watches igs 426 00:17:49,550 --> 00:17:53,630 Speaker 2: highlights and then you can ask there, please ask more questions. 427 00:17:53,869 --> 00:17:54,790 Speaker 2: I Oh 428 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:55,389 Speaker 1: my gosh. 429 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:57,910 Speaker 2: OK. First one give one compliment to everyone else on 430 00:17:57,920 --> 00:17:59,650 Speaker 2: the sofa. Joey. 431 00:17:59,959 --> 00:18:00,089 Speaker 1: Yeah. 432 00:18:01,020 --> 00:18:02,160 Speaker 1: Well, he's going to pain. 433 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:07,599 Speaker 2: I think that it is great that we are so 434 00:18:07,609 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 2: aligned on 435 00:18:10,550 --> 00:18:13,170 Speaker 2: hating things that like we hate. 436 00:18:14,459 --> 00:18:15,050 Speaker 1: Yeah, 437 00:18:15,829 --> 00:18:20,810 Speaker 2: like when we don't like something and a cue, 438 00:18:22,709 --> 00:18:25,629 Speaker 2: I think that you are very self aware as a 439 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 2: human being. 440 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:29,310 Speaker 1: Ok? I'll take that. What do you personally hope to 441 00:18:29,319 --> 00:18:31,510 Speaker 1: gain out of this podcast. Do you feel it has 442 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:34,599 Speaker 1: helped you grow as an individual? Well, honestly, I think 443 00:18:34,609 --> 00:18:36,399 Speaker 1: at first I was a bit afraid of coming on 444 00:18:36,410 --> 00:18:40,150 Speaker 1: this podcast because putting things out online is a bit scary. 445 00:18:40,719 --> 00:18:44,649 Speaker 1: And I was also a bit hesitant about doing something 446 00:18:44,660 --> 00:18:47,300 Speaker 1: that requires me to talk a lot because I've always 447 00:18:47,310 --> 00:18:50,030 Speaker 1: felt that I wasn't very good at communicating, 448 00:18:50,469 --> 00:18:53,709 Speaker 1: but I think over time I've gotten better at it 449 00:18:53,719 --> 00:18:56,400 Speaker 1: and I feel like I've learned a lot from both 450 00:18:56,410 --> 00:18:58,540 Speaker 2: of you. Nowadays. You talk quite a lot. Yeah. 451 00:18:58,550 --> 00:19:00,729 Speaker 1: All right. This is my, 452 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:03,510 Speaker 2: she got personal question. Long 10 My 453 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:07,170 Speaker 1: God is damn long Joey. I have to confess something 454 00:19:07,180 --> 00:19:09,959 Speaker 1: to you. I've heard this secret for almost 12 years 455 00:19:09,969 --> 00:19:11,688 Speaker 1: now and it haunts me every night. 456 00:19:12,849 --> 00:19:14,890 Speaker 1: I hope that today will be the day I finally 457 00:19:14,900 --> 00:19:18,109 Speaker 1: find some peace because I'm truly your fan. I'm so 458 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:21,829 Speaker 1: scared my heart. I want to vomit. Many years ago. 459 00:19:21,839 --> 00:19:24,819 Speaker 1: You released one of your original songs and I submitted 460 00:19:24,829 --> 00:19:28,409 Speaker 1: anonymously on your teller name that my classmate confessed using 461 00:19:28,420 --> 00:19:29,819 Speaker 1: that song. It was a lie. 462 00:19:32,650 --> 00:19:32,689 Speaker 1: Yeah, 463 00:19:33,609 --> 00:19:36,609 Speaker 1: but I just wanted to show support but actually got 464 00:19:36,930 --> 00:19:39,920 Speaker 1: there was no confession of classmates that day. 465 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:43,478 Speaker 1: I am so sorry. But I hope you know that 466 00:19:43,489 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 1: I still really support you and your music and for 467 00:19:46,369 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 1: my wedding. If I ever get married, don't lie, you 468 00:19:49,810 --> 00:19:53,839 Speaker 1: are lying again. I promise I will play your album 469 00:19:53,849 --> 00:19:56,829 Speaker 1: during my wedding. Ok. That's all. Please sing more. Taylor 470 00:19:56,849 --> 00:19:58,979 Speaker 1: Swift covers it, heals my soul. Thank you. 471 00:20:00,010 --> 00:20:04,030 Speaker 1: I need to digest. I feel so sorry that you 472 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:05,839 Speaker 1: have been so haunted 473 00:20:05,849 --> 00:20:06,369 Speaker 1: by this, 474 00:20:06,380 --> 00:20:08,229 Speaker 2: by their support of you. 475 00:20:08,239 --> 00:20:08,910 Speaker 1: Like 476 00:20:09,010 --> 00:20:13,349 Speaker 1: I really appreciate it and I love that like you 477 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:15,750 Speaker 1: finally got this off your chest. I feel so happy 478 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:21,750 Speaker 1: for you. I'm not upset clearly. He's not upset. All 479 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:23,129 Speaker 1: I have to say is I love you. Thank you 480 00:20:23,140 --> 00:20:25,680 Speaker 1: for being here. And yes, I will think Haunted by 481 00:20:25,689 --> 00:20:27,069 Speaker 1: Taylor Swift just for you. 482 00:20:28,270 --> 00:20:31,020 Speaker 1: So what do you think about people who are chronically online? 483 00:20:31,030 --> 00:20:35,260 Speaker 2: Sometimes I wish my friends like you are chronically online. No, no, no. 484 00:20:35,270 --> 00:20:37,510 Speaker 2: Sometimes I send your things. Then I want to reply 485 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:40,780 Speaker 2: now like tell me this is funny like I send 486 00:20:40,790 --> 00:20:42,500 Speaker 2: her like Tik Tok so I send you like Tik Tok. 487 00:20:42,510 --> 00:20:44,260 Speaker 2: They like I wait for like five seconds. 488 00:20:44,930 --> 00:20:46,739 Speaker 2: Then sometimes I see you online but then you never 489 00:20:46,750 --> 00:20:46,979 Speaker 2: open 490 00:20:47,030 --> 00:20:48,910 Speaker 1: my I think I got to see you like a 491 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:53,329 Speaker 1: see open air. I got love life. OK. So scary. 492 00:20:53,349 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 1: I'm busy watching Joey Stick 493 00:20:55,010 --> 00:20:55,419 Speaker 1: Dogs. OK. 494 00:20:55,430 --> 00:21:00,369 Speaker 2: Why are you not chronically like come with me to 495 00:21:01,310 --> 00:21:04,109 Speaker 2: but how we define chronically online? For example, 496 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:06,829 Speaker 1: couples who do prank videos, right? But then every day 497 00:21:06,839 --> 00:21:09,619 Speaker 1: they post prank videos, you really believe that they they 498 00:21:09,670 --> 00:21:09,869 Speaker 1: my 499 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:10,938 Speaker 2: stage on one. Yeah. 500 00:21:10,949 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. So they know every single day they post a, 501 00:21:14,290 --> 00:21:17,069 Speaker 1: a scripted video like that. To me, my idea of 502 00:21:17,079 --> 00:21:20,449 Speaker 1: chronically online, right is when you take internet speak internet 503 00:21:20,459 --> 00:21:23,899 Speaker 1: behavior into real life, if they have to constantly talk 504 00:21:23,910 --> 00:21:26,530 Speaker 1: in internet quotes and then they look into a fake camera, 505 00:21:26,540 --> 00:21:30,989 Speaker 1: maybe you're talking, you're like, say just do that like, oh. Right. Right. Right. 506 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:32,079 Speaker 1: Oh my God, you 507 00:21:32,089 --> 00:21:33,150 Speaker 2: totally, bro. 508 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:35,890 Speaker 1: Like we are back in real life. Really? Right. The 509 00:21:35,900 --> 00:21:37,629 Speaker 1: internet speak like, 510 00:21:39,910 --> 00:21:41,948 Speaker 1: you know, so let me empathize with the people who 511 00:21:41,959 --> 00:21:44,738 Speaker 1: cry and post online, I think, right? Maybe sometimes it's 512 00:21:44,750 --> 00:21:47,719 Speaker 1: healing to document this moment and to look back on 513 00:21:47,939 --> 00:21:51,719 Speaker 1: and posting, it might be an outlet. You some people 514 00:21:51,729 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 1: really don't have people to talk to. Yes. And and 515 00:21:54,569 --> 00:21:58,188 Speaker 1: if they don't have the right friends to consult about 516 00:21:58,199 --> 00:22:00,300 Speaker 1: their emotions, maybe the internet is a better 517 00:22:00,310 --> 00:22:00,659 Speaker 1: place. 518 00:22:00,670 --> 00:22:04,500 Speaker 2: So they feel that I need some people to comment 519 00:22:04,510 --> 00:22:06,739 Speaker 2: and tell me like help me process how I'm feeling. 520 00:22:06,750 --> 00:22:07,349 Speaker 2: Maybe 521 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:07,530 Speaker 1: if 522 00:22:07,635 --> 00:22:09,905 Speaker 1: like a show your bad moments and good moments, you know, 523 00:22:09,915 --> 00:22:12,895 Speaker 1: I mean, but, but, but I feel like there are 524 00:22:12,905 --> 00:22:15,984 Speaker 1: some moments that should not be posted online, like private moments, 525 00:22:15,994 --> 00:22:17,744 Speaker 1: there are some moments that I'm like, I feel like 526 00:22:17,755 --> 00:22:20,064 Speaker 1: I shouldn't be here. You don't know your video is 527 00:22:20,074 --> 00:22:23,035 Speaker 1: gonna go viral. So when you post a video crying, right? 528 00:22:23,045 --> 00:22:25,185 Speaker 1: It could be 200 people, it could be 200 million 529 00:22:25,194 --> 00:22:29,084 Speaker 1: people and the comments can go either way, depending on 530 00:22:29,094 --> 00:22:31,395 Speaker 1: the comments that are there before. Yeah. Do you ever 531 00:22:31,405 --> 00:22:33,854 Speaker 1: feel like you watch a video? Ok, 532 00:22:34,430 --> 00:22:36,149 Speaker 1: then you're like, oh my God, I know what the 533 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:39,310 Speaker 1: comments are going to say. There's opposite. Then you, I'm 534 00:22:39,319 --> 00:22:39,329 Speaker 1: a 535 00:22:39,339 --> 00:22:39,819 Speaker 1: bitch. 536 00:22:40,270 --> 00:22:42,579 Speaker 2: Oh no, I usually are quite a, I also usually 537 00:22:42,589 --> 00:22:44,739 Speaker 2: quite like I become so ingrained in the table 538 00:22:45,500 --> 00:22:48,550 Speaker 1: but I have had experiences right? Where I open the 539 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:52,829 Speaker 1: comments then actually I like the video. Yeah, open the 540 00:22:52,839 --> 00:22:55,150 Speaker 1: comments right? Then the comments, everyone like hitting on this 541 00:22:55,160 --> 00:23:00,050 Speaker 1: person that does a actually this person not very nice. 542 00:23:00,060 --> 00:23:00,300 Speaker 1: Ah 543 00:23:01,810 --> 00:23:03,919 Speaker 1: Like I feel like there are people who wanted to 544 00:23:03,930 --> 00:23:07,119 Speaker 1: comment nice things right? Then they see other people comment otherwise, 545 00:23:07,130 --> 00:23:11,459 Speaker 1: then they scared already because correct 100%. Ok. So how 546 00:23:11,469 --> 00:23:15,060 Speaker 1: has social media affected your mental health? Don't have 547 00:23:16,810 --> 00:23:19,719 Speaker 2: don't think so. No. Ok. Say for example, like I 548 00:23:19,729 --> 00:23:22,839 Speaker 2: follow quite a lot of fitness influences and like I 549 00:23:22,849 --> 00:23:25,339 Speaker 2: consume quite a lot of fitness content. Also the online 550 00:23:25,349 --> 00:23:28,439 Speaker 2: fitness community can be quite toxic. So like the whole 551 00:23:28,449 --> 00:23:30,188 Speaker 2: like body building kind of like, so 552 00:23:30,709 --> 00:23:32,900 Speaker 2: you can see like this guy who's damn big and 553 00:23:32,910 --> 00:23:36,369 Speaker 2: damn jacked, right? And then like comments can like somehow 554 00:23:36,380 --> 00:23:39,199 Speaker 2: find some flaw and then like, oh bro, you don't 555 00:23:39,209 --> 00:23:41,099 Speaker 2: skip day, that kind of thing. But he's like them 556 00:23:41,130 --> 00:23:44,479 Speaker 2: if I was someone that would be like comparing myself 557 00:23:44,500 --> 00:23:46,969 Speaker 2: constantly with someone that is better than me right. 558 00:23:47,270 --> 00:23:49,109 Speaker 2: Then your legs will never be big enough. Your bicep 559 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:50,839 Speaker 2: will never be big enough. You will never be, your 560 00:23:50,849 --> 00:23:53,550 Speaker 2: apps will never be symmetrical enough. So just like you 561 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:54,379 Speaker 2: happy 562 00:23:54,410 --> 00:23:57,619 Speaker 1: K like sometimes seeing couples online back to back, every 563 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:00,670 Speaker 1: IG story is a wedding, a proposal or like just 564 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:02,849 Speaker 1: them going on dates, right? Sometimes I do get affected 565 00:24:02,859 --> 00:24:05,430 Speaker 1: by these things. But over time, I learned how to 566 00:24:05,439 --> 00:24:09,239 Speaker 1: use this platforms to my advantage in a sense where 567 00:24:09,250 --> 00:24:12,849 Speaker 1: I curate what I want to see like the algorithm thing, right? 568 00:24:13,089 --> 00:24:16,550 Speaker 1: Honestly, my IG real explore page is one of the 569 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:19,899 Speaker 1: best place for me because it's all very inspirational stuff. 570 00:24:19,910 --> 00:24:23,329 Speaker 1: Even like lifestyle blocks also like people hustling and like 571 00:24:23,930 --> 00:24:26,670 Speaker 1: get rid of me on on my morning routine, right? 572 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:28,429 Speaker 1: Like just having glowy inspiration. 573 00:24:28,530 --> 00:24:31,069 Speaker 1: Yeah, I just want to be inspired to start my day. 574 00:24:31,079 --> 00:24:33,889 Speaker 1: I mean, you can really shift your algorithm, you can 575 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:38,188 Speaker 1: scroll interest, not interested, not interested, not interested until you 576 00:24:38,199 --> 00:24:41,069 Speaker 1: interested in something that's more healthy for you to consume 577 00:24:41,079 --> 00:24:43,829 Speaker 1: mental health, right? Improved 578 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 1: because again, you can curate. It's a very common theme. 579 00:24:47,530 --> 00:24:50,400 Speaker 1: Now people are protecting their peace. Oh my God. Thank 580 00:24:50,410 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 1: you for the mute button. They maintain the friendships in 581 00:24:53,530 --> 00:24:56,630 Speaker 1: that they continue following someone but they mute. We've talked 582 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:58,920 Speaker 1: so much about social media, right? How can we have 583 00:24:58,930 --> 00:25:01,189 Speaker 1: a healthy relationship with it? Whatever I said about your 584 00:25:01,199 --> 00:25:02,689 Speaker 1: f you can curate it, 585 00:25:03,130 --> 00:25:06,709 Speaker 1: swipe away. If you don't want to see press, do 586 00:25:06,719 --> 00:25:10,149 Speaker 1: not press what I'm not interested, not interested. If you 587 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,159 Speaker 1: don't want to see it to. Correct. Correct. Don't let 588 00:25:12,170 --> 00:25:14,159 Speaker 1: your ego get in the way of your elbow. 589 00:25:14,189 --> 00:25:17,949 Speaker 2: Just focus on the utilitarian aspect. Like how can the 590 00:25:17,959 --> 00:25:19,260 Speaker 2: content that you're consuming 591 00:25:19,619 --> 00:25:23,670 Speaker 2: help you rather than become like a point of comparison? 592 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:25,050 Speaker 1: At the end of the day, social media is a 593 00:25:25,060 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 1: tool and the tools are all meant to help us. 594 00:25:28,770 --> 00:25:31,599 Speaker 1: If it helps you wind down and you just want 595 00:25:31,609 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 1: to hear someone yet or like you wanna like watch 596 00:25:35,010 --> 00:25:37,319 Speaker 1: someone shit post then go and do it. But once 597 00:25:37,329 --> 00:25:40,859 Speaker 1: it like trickles into your life to cause this day right? 598 00:25:40,869 --> 00:25:41,719 Speaker 1: Then like the one, 599 00:25:44,229 --> 00:25:46,540 Speaker 1: thank you for joining us on social media today on 600 00:25:46,550 --> 00:25:48,579 Speaker 1: the hot pot. You can also listen to us on 601 00:25:48,589 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 1: Spotify Apple podcast and me. Listen. And 602 00:25:51,050 --> 00:25:53,500 Speaker 2: if you haven't already, don't forget to subscribe as well 603 00:25:53,510 --> 00:25:55,979 Speaker 2: as turn on your notifications. So you never miss an 604 00:25:55,989 --> 00:25:56,479 Speaker 2: episode 605 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:56,959 Speaker 1: and we will 606 00:25:56,969 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 1: see you in the next episode. Bye. 607 00:26:00,239 --> 00:26:02,310 Speaker 2: He recently got someone called me a 608 00:26:02,729 --> 00:26:02,739 Speaker 1: oh 609 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:04,479 Speaker 1: my God. That comment. 610 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:11,910 Speaker 2: Someone called me a cis hetero Chinese male, Chinese male. 611 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:15,020 Speaker 1: Wow, you are ac Chinese male but it was clearly 612 00:26:15,030 --> 00:26:18,139 Speaker 1: used as an insult like it was loaded. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 613 00:26:18,150 --> 00:26:18,979 Speaker 1: It was definitely 614 00:26:18,989 --> 00:26:19,939 Speaker 1: loaded. No, 615 00:26:19,949 --> 00:26:21,829 Speaker 2: but then like the person cannot decide whether they want 616 00:26:21,839 --> 00:26:22,579 Speaker 2: to insult or not. So 617 00:26:23,430 --> 00:26:24,140 Speaker 1: sorry, 618 00:26:24,150 --> 00:26:26,750 Speaker 2: sorry. I know it's not fair but like, yeah, so 619 00:26:26,900 --> 00:26:27,419 Speaker 2: said Chinese 620 00:26:28,339 --> 00:26:30,489 Speaker 1: would have been a journal entry. I mean, maybe pick 621 00:26:30,500 --> 00:26:33,250 Speaker 1: up journalist as in it was an assumption 622 00:26:33,260 --> 00:26:33,510 Speaker 1: about 623 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:34,869 Speaker 2: you. I was very puzzled by that. I had to 624 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:36,270 Speaker 2: Google because like, 625 00:26:36,489 --> 00:26:36,829 Speaker 1: yeah.