1 00:00:00,009 --> 00:00:02,469 Speaker 1: Do you think that you can always be 100% secure? 2 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:04,860 Speaker 1: Or there's always a bit of insecurity deep down inside? 3 00:00:04,909 --> 00:00:07,190 Speaker 1: I think maybe on my death bed, I'll be 100% secure. 4 00:00:08,260 --> 00:00:10,859 Speaker 1: Even if you your pants di 5 00:00:11,609 --> 00:00:13,989 Speaker 2: if I'm dying, I really won't be P I think 6 00:00:14,550 --> 00:00:16,759 Speaker 1: peace out, clean my ass later by. 7 00:00:18,350 --> 00:00:19,099 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? 8 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:29,219 Speaker 1: Everyone. Welcome to another episode of the Hot Pot where 9 00:00:29,229 --> 00:00:32,259 Speaker 1: we hop into different transitions in life. My name is Nick. 10 00:00:32,270 --> 00:00:32,459 Speaker 1: I'm 11 00:00:32,470 --> 00:00:35,949 Speaker 2: Q and I'm Joey and today's hop topic. I said 12 00:00:35,959 --> 00:00:37,918 Speaker 2: that right was not a mistake. We're going to be 13 00:00:37,930 --> 00:00:40,598 Speaker 2: talking about glowing up and we're gonna see if we've 14 00:00:40,610 --> 00:00:43,090 Speaker 2: had any at all and if the internet hacks are 15 00:00:43,098 --> 00:00:43,638 Speaker 2: true 16 00:00:43,650 --> 00:00:44,380 Speaker 1: to start things off. 17 00:00:44,473 --> 00:00:46,854 Speaker 1: Here's the definition of a Glow Up. A Glow Up 18 00:00:46,865 --> 00:00:50,214 Speaker 1: is a slang term used to describe a significant transformation 19 00:00:50,223 --> 00:00:53,994 Speaker 1: typically in physical appearance that is perceived as an improvement 20 00:00:54,044 --> 00:00:56,255 Speaker 1: is a process of turning yourself into a better version 21 00:00:56,264 --> 00:01:03,084 Speaker 1: of yourself and becoming more confident, attractive and successful. Long bottomed, right? 22 00:01:03,134 --> 00:01:06,714 Speaker 1: What is long bottom line? They always say the the 23 00:01:07,125 --> 00:01:08,794 Speaker 1: bottom actor in Harry Potter, 24 00:01:10,430 --> 00:01:13,069 Speaker 1: there was a period where when the movie came out, right? 25 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:15,300 Speaker 1: Then they were saying that if you become good looking 26 00:01:15,309 --> 00:01:18,169 Speaker 1: over puberty, then you long bottom. Do you guys think 27 00:01:18,180 --> 00:01:19,989 Speaker 1: that you had a glue up? I think OK, 28 00:01:22,050 --> 00:01:25,550 Speaker 1: was suddenly so humble. So I think like I was, 29 00:01:25,559 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 1: I was a fat kid then, but it was very young. 30 00:01:28,089 --> 00:01:31,029 Speaker 1: Just p team. Does that count as growing up? Depends 31 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:33,069 Speaker 1: on how you see it. Like which age does it 32 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:33,889 Speaker 1: stop being a glow? 33 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:35,110 Speaker 2: Is it glow up or grow 34 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:38,250 Speaker 1: up? Yeah, I personally feel that there are two phases 35 00:01:38,260 --> 00:01:40,429 Speaker 1: of glue up that you can have. One is during 36 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:41,500 Speaker 1: your teenage years 37 00:01:42,075 --> 00:01:46,736 Speaker 1: when your acne came out, you put braces and then 38 00:01:46,746 --> 00:01:48,975 Speaker 1: maybe from your early twenties to your late twenties, there 39 00:01:48,986 --> 00:01:53,106 Speaker 1: might be another phase. I think the one distinctive period 40 00:01:53,115 --> 00:01:55,496 Speaker 1: was when I was in Ns because that period right 41 00:01:55,505 --> 00:01:59,115 Speaker 1: before that, I was like quite chubby and then quite fair. 42 00:01:59,125 --> 00:02:01,486 Speaker 1: So then after that in NS, like I lost a 43 00:02:01,496 --> 00:02:02,055 Speaker 1: lot like 44 00:02:02,141 --> 00:02:05,211 Speaker 1: of baby fat on my face. Then I got very 45 00:02:05,222 --> 00:02:07,711 Speaker 1: tanned and then at that period because I was both 46 00:02:07,991 --> 00:02:11,401 Speaker 1: right now, I think I ugly, ugly a bit more, right. 47 00:02:11,531 --> 00:02:15,602 Speaker 1: Then I did braces, I did braces also. No Invisalign 48 00:02:15,611 --> 00:02:16,802 Speaker 1: like the metal. And 49 00:02:19,222 --> 00:02:21,341 Speaker 2: the only thing about braces is you must close your 50 00:02:21,352 --> 00:02:21,742 Speaker 2: mouth like this. 51 00:02:24,029 --> 00:02:25,350 Speaker 2: You know, every time you talk behind 52 00:02:25,869 --> 00:02:28,149 Speaker 1: that sometimes the lid will stuck above the wire. 53 00:02:29,610 --> 00:02:32,309 Speaker 1: So that was me in Ns LA. Then after I did, 54 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:35,149 Speaker 1: then just as I timed it that like, then I 55 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:37,669 Speaker 1: think that period after n I was like, OK, OK. 56 00:02:37,679 --> 00:02:38,399 Speaker 1: How about you? I 57 00:02:38,410 --> 00:02:43,089 Speaker 2: think I definitely had a glow up right after my breakup. 58 00:02:43,679 --> 00:02:48,619 Speaker 2: The most significant change that I didn't even notice myself 59 00:02:48,630 --> 00:02:52,649 Speaker 2: that everyone around me was talking about. Then I realized 60 00:02:52,758 --> 00:02:54,509 Speaker 2: at first they were asking my best friend, 61 00:02:54,619 --> 00:02:57,579 Speaker 2: I'm OK because I lost a lot of weight suddenly. 62 00:02:57,788 --> 00:03:00,029 Speaker 2: So they were wondering if I was healthy and I 63 00:03:00,038 --> 00:03:03,788 Speaker 2: was all right? And then it was when I looked 64 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:07,839 Speaker 2: at photos and look back at photos pre breakup, right? 65 00:03:07,860 --> 00:03:10,570 Speaker 2: And I realized my baby fat like all went away, 66 00:03:10,580 --> 00:03:13,460 Speaker 2: like my baby face went away and I just look 67 00:03:13,470 --> 00:03:16,399 Speaker 2: very different and I can't explain it. It's not like 68 00:03:16,410 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 2: I look like a different person, but there's something that's 69 00:03:20,690 --> 00:03:22,179 Speaker 2: snatched, right? 70 00:03:23,860 --> 00:03:25,669 Speaker 1: But I guess it depends on whether you see that 71 00:03:25,679 --> 00:03:27,978 Speaker 1: as a glue up or not, right? That's true. I mean, 72 00:03:27,990 --> 00:03:29,809 Speaker 1: different people would define it differently. 73 00:03:29,820 --> 00:03:31,508 Speaker 2: That's what I was gonna say. You think you have 74 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:33,660 Speaker 2: a glow and other people think you did. You know, 75 00:03:33,669 --> 00:03:33,978 Speaker 2: I mean, 76 00:03:34,029 --> 00:03:36,139 Speaker 1: what do you guys think of the frase glue up? 77 00:03:36,410 --> 00:03:39,500 Speaker 1: I personally feel that it can be a backhanded compliment 78 00:03:39,919 --> 00:03:41,979 Speaker 1: what you grew up. So that means you're saying previously 79 00:03:41,990 --> 00:03:43,050 Speaker 1: I ugly. Yeah. 80 00:03:43,740 --> 00:03:47,139 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Actually just like one week ago I said 81 00:03:47,149 --> 00:03:50,259 Speaker 1: that to someone and then I immediately edited the message 82 00:03:50,270 --> 00:03:53,479 Speaker 1: and say you look good before just to assure her 83 00:03:53,490 --> 00:03:55,910 Speaker 1: that I wasn't saying it as like a you were 84 00:03:55,919 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 1: not good looking before. Yeah, so you look good before 85 00:03:58,889 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: but you grew up, you became a better version of yourself. 86 00:04:01,610 --> 00:04:04,639 Speaker 1: You look, you look glowy these days, you look confident, 87 00:04:04,669 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 1: you look good before but you look even better now. Yeah. Yeah. 88 00:04:07,869 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 1: But I think a lot of people also link it 89 00:04:10,250 --> 00:04:13,350 Speaker 1: back to just physical traits. Whereas I feel like there's 90 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:16,679 Speaker 1: a lot of emotional mental aspects to it. Also 91 00:04:16,690 --> 00:04:20,678 Speaker 2: in general, like comments about someone's physical appearance, I tend 92 00:04:20,690 --> 00:04:23,359 Speaker 2: to avoid it because as much as it's a compliment, 93 00:04:23,464 --> 00:04:25,765 Speaker 2: I received a compliment. But before like a look so 94 00:04:25,774 --> 00:04:29,933 Speaker 2: different now, like different, good, different bad. So in general, 95 00:04:29,945 --> 00:04:31,984 Speaker 2: I feel like I try and stay away from saying, 96 00:04:31,994 --> 00:04:33,303 Speaker 2: oh my God, it looks so much better. Now. I 97 00:04:33,315 --> 00:04:35,484 Speaker 2: just said, oh my God, you look so good period. 98 00:04:35,674 --> 00:04:37,005 Speaker 2: You know, I mean, because you don't know if that 99 00:04:37,015 --> 00:04:39,075 Speaker 2: person had to go through 100 00:04:39,809 --> 00:04:43,730 Speaker 2: unhealthy changes to get here. It might reinforce those habits 101 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:45,950 Speaker 2: and they continue to be unhealthy to look this way 102 00:04:45,959 --> 00:04:46,979 Speaker 2: because people are complimenting 103 00:04:46,988 --> 00:04:49,570 Speaker 1: them. Can you imagine like you tell somebody right? You 104 00:04:49,579 --> 00:04:52,010 Speaker 1: lost me. You look them good. Now, then this person 105 00:04:52,019 --> 00:04:52,260 Speaker 1: like 106 00:04:52,609 --> 00:04:55,488 Speaker 1: they might be secretly terminal illness, that kind of thing. 107 00:04:55,500 --> 00:04:58,750 Speaker 1: Then you don't know. It is the same as telling 108 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:02,868 Speaker 1: someone who might be starving themselves that you look better 109 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:06,839 Speaker 1: because you lost weight. Yeah. So actually you mentioned that 110 00:05:06,850 --> 00:05:09,010 Speaker 1: it was after your breakup where you went through this 111 00:05:09,019 --> 00:05:10,149 Speaker 1: noticeable change, right? 112 00:05:10,420 --> 00:05:14,309 Speaker 1: What are some major triggers for glowing up? I think 113 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:17,099 Speaker 1: for men sometimes is the girlfriend effect? Actually, what is 114 00:05:17,109 --> 00:05:18,380 Speaker 1: the girlfriend effect 115 00:05:18,390 --> 00:05:22,959 Speaker 2: as it? Basically, he, he glows up because maybe she's 116 00:05:23,329 --> 00:05:24,350 Speaker 2: teaching him how to 117 00:05:24,359 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 1: dress better. They can wear uniform now how to dress better, 118 00:05:28,209 --> 00:05:31,100 Speaker 1: what skincare product we use, how to cut the hair, 119 00:05:31,109 --> 00:05:32,299 Speaker 1: how to style the hair. I will 120 00:05:32,309 --> 00:05:32,839 Speaker 2: say that it's 121 00:05:32,936 --> 00:05:36,195 Speaker 2: not necessarily that she takes over his life and removes 122 00:05:36,205 --> 00:05:38,596 Speaker 2: his agency to choose what to wear. But more so 123 00:05:38,755 --> 00:05:41,795 Speaker 2: with this added entity in his life, maybe he feels 124 00:05:41,805 --> 00:05:44,976 Speaker 2: better for himself. And as a result, he starts to 125 00:05:44,985 --> 00:05:47,476 Speaker 2: take more care of his appearance. I try to dress 126 00:05:47,485 --> 00:05:48,925 Speaker 2: better for dates. I 127 00:05:48,936 --> 00:05:51,126 Speaker 1: thought it's the opposite where like once you are in 128 00:05:51,135 --> 00:05:54,436 Speaker 1: a committed relationship, the common joke is that then the 129 00:05:54,446 --> 00:05:55,354 Speaker 1: guys will always 130 00:05:55,451 --> 00:05:57,471 Speaker 1: let go. Then I think it can go 131 00:05:57,481 --> 00:05:59,510 Speaker 2: both ways. You can go both ways for sure. 132 00:05:59,522 --> 00:06:01,761 Speaker 1: It's up to you. Which one you want to go 133 00:06:01,772 --> 00:06:02,390 Speaker 1: towards to 134 00:06:02,402 --> 00:06:04,761 Speaker 2: know new girlfriend effect and long term girlfriend. 135 00:06:05,212 --> 00:06:09,752 Speaker 1: It's true. I think other triggers is not so much 136 00:06:09,921 --> 00:06:13,421 Speaker 1: of a self aware thing but puberty, I think that 137 00:06:13,432 --> 00:06:15,951 Speaker 1: happened to most of us for me, I was an 138 00:06:15,962 --> 00:06:17,712 Speaker 1: ugly child. I had buck tooth. 139 00:06:18,549 --> 00:06:22,609 Speaker 1: Um my acne was bad. I don't have eyebrows. 140 00:06:25,540 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 1: Joey knows what I mean. This is eyebrow thing. You 141 00:06:28,329 --> 00:06:28,570 Speaker 1: have 142 00:06:28,579 --> 00:06:32,459 Speaker 2: no idea, right? How big a difference? Eyebrows can make 143 00:06:33,380 --> 00:06:33,390 Speaker 2: a 144 00:06:33,488 --> 00:06:35,890 Speaker 1: guy say like my eyebrows checks. 145 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 1: Who say that? What did I say that in a sentence? 146 00:06:41,980 --> 00:06:46,238 Speaker 1: So for me in secondary school or rather like late 147 00:06:46,250 --> 00:06:49,558 Speaker 1: primary school, I was, I think I look quite bad 148 00:06:49,850 --> 00:06:52,789 Speaker 1: and then I started looking better in poly when makeup 149 00:06:52,799 --> 00:06:56,089 Speaker 1: was introduced to me. But I feel like in my 150 00:06:56,100 --> 00:06:59,660 Speaker 1: late 20 or mid twenties onwards, I had a glow 151 00:06:59,670 --> 00:07:02,220 Speaker 1: down and then not to my own home. 152 00:07:02,365 --> 00:07:04,544 Speaker 1: I feel like I look better. Now you look great, 153 00:07:04,555 --> 00:07:07,235 Speaker 1: but it seems like mid twenties go down is quite 154 00:07:07,246 --> 00:07:09,186 Speaker 1: a real thing. I see quite a few people. So 155 00:07:09,196 --> 00:07:11,455 Speaker 1: I think the main thing would be the transition right 156 00:07:11,466 --> 00:07:15,966 Speaker 1: from uni to the working world. Then once you like 157 00:07:15,976 --> 00:07:19,946 Speaker 1: this job, then your health takes a back seat. If 158 00:07:19,955 --> 00:07:21,305 Speaker 1: you don't take care of your health, you don't get 159 00:07:21,316 --> 00:07:23,605 Speaker 1: enough sleep, that kind of thing. A lot of 160 00:07:23,615 --> 00:07:26,786 Speaker 2: working women will suddenly have a glow up 161 00:07:27,062 --> 00:07:30,101 Speaker 2: because now they got money right. Then they do eyelash extensions. 162 00:07:30,272 --> 00:07:32,041 Speaker 1: And I think because we have the spending power, we 163 00:07:32,052 --> 00:07:35,432 Speaker 1: tend to invest more in proper skin care and being 164 00:07:35,441 --> 00:07:38,182 Speaker 1: more aware of what is suitable for our own skin 165 00:07:38,191 --> 00:07:40,261 Speaker 1: as well. Yeah, like when you're growing up, you just 166 00:07:40,272 --> 00:07:42,821 Speaker 1: like splash water, there are also other triggers such as 167 00:07:42,832 --> 00:07:46,682 Speaker 1: New Year. New Me. Which means that in January gym 168 00:07:46,911 --> 00:07:47,861 Speaker 1: super crowded and 169 00:07:47,872 --> 00:07:48,772 Speaker 2: drink a lot of water. 170 00:07:48,802 --> 00:07:49,682 Speaker 1: That's you. Right. 171 00:07:49,902 --> 00:07:51,221 Speaker 2: I, I really, 172 00:07:52,929 --> 00:07:55,209 Speaker 1: we are only on first feb. Yeah. 173 00:07:55,350 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 2: No, I think that Jan, I already feel. Oh, yeah, 174 00:07:58,850 --> 00:08:03,910 Speaker 1: you lasted three days. Nice. They correct. They, so, growing up, right. 175 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:08,078 Speaker 1: What were your biggest insecurities? And how have they carried 176 00:08:08,089 --> 00:08:09,619 Speaker 1: on to today? Ok. I want to 177 00:08:09,630 --> 00:08:12,519 Speaker 2: share something and I don't think I've ever shared this 178 00:08:12,529 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 2: with anyone. 179 00:08:14,589 --> 00:08:16,959 Speaker 1: So. Right. We notice that a lot of you are 180 00:08:16,970 --> 00:08:23,429 Speaker 1: not subscribed. Absolutely inexcusable. How many episodes already? 181 00:08:24,290 --> 00:08:26,950 Speaker 1: You secretly binge watching that? You don't subscribe to make 182 00:08:26,959 --> 00:08:29,079 Speaker 1: your life easier. Why don't you subscribe? 183 00:08:30,609 --> 00:08:34,728 Speaker 2: I had really bad back knee growing up right back 184 00:08:34,780 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 2: at me. So doing volleyball practice when I'm in the 185 00:08:37,549 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 2: room and all the girls change right together. I remember 186 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:45,209 Speaker 2: it like immediately looking at everyone's backs and wondering why 187 00:08:45,219 --> 00:08:48,349 Speaker 2: they're so lucky. Like their backs are not ugly. And 188 00:08:48,359 --> 00:08:51,369 Speaker 2: I remember voicing out to a friend before I said, oh, 189 00:08:51,380 --> 00:08:54,010 Speaker 2: my bag is really bad. So, yeah, me too. And 190 00:08:54,020 --> 00:08:56,190 Speaker 2: then when she showed me her back, they were like, 191 00:08:56,333 --> 00:08:59,772 Speaker 2: there's like one or two little spots and I said, no, 192 00:08:59,783 --> 00:09:02,572 Speaker 2: mine is really bad. And she said, no, I'm sure 193 00:09:02,583 --> 00:09:05,112 Speaker 2: you're fine. And when I show her my back, she went, oh, 194 00:09:05,732 --> 00:09:07,723 Speaker 2: and that's why, you know, it's bad. You know, like 195 00:09:07,732 --> 00:09:11,362 Speaker 2: when they cannot even to you, she was like, oh, 196 00:09:11,372 --> 00:09:13,392 Speaker 2: how come you know, like, 197 00:09:13,872 --> 00:09:17,382 Speaker 1: honestly that's such a good reaction. Oh my God. Like, 198 00:09:17,793 --> 00:09:17,942 Speaker 1: like 199 00:09:20,732 --> 00:09:22,052 Speaker 2: even tank tops, the 200 00:09:22,315 --> 00:09:25,065 Speaker 2: always a you and I would never want to wear that. 201 00:09:25,075 --> 00:09:28,704 Speaker 2: So I remember every time I wore you, like, I 202 00:09:28,716 --> 00:09:30,165 Speaker 2: will make sure my hair is either long enough to 203 00:09:30,176 --> 00:09:33,296 Speaker 2: cover and if it wasn't, then I'll wear a cardigan 204 00:09:33,306 --> 00:09:35,145 Speaker 2: even though it's hot. I will never take it off 205 00:09:35,236 --> 00:09:37,156 Speaker 2: because I don't want anyone to see my back knee. 206 00:09:37,166 --> 00:09:39,215 Speaker 2: It was just something I felt very ashamed of. I 207 00:09:39,226 --> 00:09:41,685 Speaker 2: just felt it was so ugly until I saw a 208 00:09:41,695 --> 00:09:45,244 Speaker 2: girl with back knee as well where like a backless 209 00:09:45,255 --> 00:09:47,824 Speaker 2: dress and I felt so 210 00:09:48,270 --> 00:09:53,069 Speaker 2: empowered, like I just felt so encouraged that she's not ashamed. 211 00:09:53,219 --> 00:09:55,780 Speaker 2: So my forehead used to be really bad as well. 212 00:09:55,789 --> 00:09:58,630 Speaker 2: And that's a common area for teenagers when you get me. 213 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:02,900 Speaker 2: And I remember right on multiple occasions when my acne 214 00:10:02,909 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 2: was really bad because in school, your fringe cannot cover 215 00:10:04,890 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 2: your eyebrows. So I cut banks 216 00:10:07,330 --> 00:10:09,109 Speaker 1: but then it makes it worse, right? Because after that, 217 00:10:09,119 --> 00:10:13,429 Speaker 1: like because oily, yeah, I used to have like four 218 00:10:13,830 --> 00:10:16,799 Speaker 1: was one of my insecurities, but I think it was 219 00:10:16,809 --> 00:10:17,419 Speaker 1: also like 220 00:10:17,859 --> 00:10:20,059 Speaker 1: my own doing because I had the Justin Bieber hair 221 00:10:20,070 --> 00:10:23,409 Speaker 1: last time. Do you think as a young teenage boy? Right, 222 00:10:23,500 --> 00:10:26,039 Speaker 1: in comparison to teenage girls, do you all feel as 223 00:10:26,049 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: insecure as us? I'm speaking for myself? I feel like 224 00:10:30,159 --> 00:10:34,630 Speaker 1: especially back in our day, I feel like like women 225 00:10:34,849 --> 00:10:39,109 Speaker 1: or girls were judged quite harshly, bullying, overlooks worse 226 00:10:39,650 --> 00:10:42,700 Speaker 1: was quite bad. Last time. Throw back to the episode. 227 00:10:43,010 --> 00:10:46,530 Speaker 1: Now I think I feel like the world chested now. 228 00:10:46,539 --> 00:10:48,619 Speaker 1: I feel like the world a bit more like forgiving 229 00:10:48,630 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 1: aware even like when people are young, I think last 230 00:10:51,330 --> 00:10:52,719 Speaker 1: time it's like people bully you, but they don't even 231 00:10:52,729 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 1: realize that they bully you. They just 232 00:10:54,820 --> 00:10:57,890 Speaker 2: teasing like they don't realize, I think now we're definitely 233 00:10:57,900 --> 00:10:59,820 Speaker 2: more self aware because we've 234 00:11:00,119 --> 00:11:05,270 Speaker 2: we are embracing like mental health and body image issues. 235 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:07,229 Speaker 2: So they are more exposed to that and social media 236 00:11:07,239 --> 00:11:09,130 Speaker 2: as well. The one good thing that has come on 237 00:11:09,140 --> 00:11:12,539 Speaker 2: social media is like shaming the bullies. People are more 238 00:11:12,549 --> 00:11:13,039 Speaker 2: afraid to 239 00:11:13,049 --> 00:11:16,339 Speaker 1: bully and like last time, right? Even teachers will make 240 00:11:16,349 --> 00:11:20,340 Speaker 1: these sort of comments. Yeah. Yeah. So like your pe 241 00:11:20,349 --> 00:11:23,669 Speaker 1: teacher will say like, oh this girl or this boy like, hey, 242 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:25,809 Speaker 1: I need to eat less. I eat too much. You know, 243 00:11:25,994 --> 00:11:29,234 Speaker 1: last time they do like they weigh the kids be 244 00:11:29,765 --> 00:11:32,705 Speaker 1: then like I remember there will be teachers, certain teachers 245 00:11:32,715 --> 00:11:35,635 Speaker 1: that will make these sort of offhand comments. Whereas now 246 00:11:35,645 --> 00:11:39,405 Speaker 1: I think there is more like sensitivity, especially amongst like 247 00:11:39,414 --> 00:11:41,994 Speaker 1: an adult talking like adults talking to Children. What about 248 00:11:42,005 --> 00:11:43,864 Speaker 2: you? What were your insecurities growing up? 249 00:11:43,875 --> 00:11:48,505 Speaker 1: My insecurity was more on my personality. This was in 250 00:11:48,515 --> 00:11:51,574 Speaker 1: my early twenties. I think I've always heard 251 00:11:52,099 --> 00:11:56,890 Speaker 1: friends or usually there are guys like who point out 252 00:11:56,900 --> 00:12:00,570 Speaker 1: you're very sensitive. You are also quite feisty, you're very alpha, 253 00:12:00,580 --> 00:12:03,169 Speaker 1: I think even now, like sometimes you say these things 254 00:12:03,229 --> 00:12:07,039 Speaker 1: and then as a younger version of me, right, when 255 00:12:07,049 --> 00:12:09,449 Speaker 1: I was still figuring out who I was, it made 256 00:12:09,460 --> 00:12:13,119 Speaker 1: me feel very undesirable or I'm not the right kind 257 00:12:13,130 --> 00:12:14,319 Speaker 1: of woman, 258 00:12:15,140 --> 00:12:18,260 Speaker 1: you know, and because I was more emotional and sensitive, 259 00:12:18,270 --> 00:12:22,210 Speaker 1: I think people would point that out loud also. And 260 00:12:22,690 --> 00:12:25,390 Speaker 1: I never really understood whether that's something that's a flaw 261 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:27,900 Speaker 1: or not. So I growing up, I always felt that 262 00:12:27,909 --> 00:12:30,890 Speaker 1: that was my biggest flaw. But at this point, I'm 263 00:12:30,900 --> 00:12:33,669 Speaker 1: so self assured to know that it can be a flaw. 264 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:36,549 Speaker 1: It can also be a strength, you know, like when 265 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:38,478 Speaker 1: it links back to EQ and also being aware of 266 00:12:38,489 --> 00:12:42,590 Speaker 1: people's feelings. There was also this one time someone said 267 00:12:42,599 --> 00:12:44,780 Speaker 1: something to me and this person was someone I love. 268 00:12:45,770 --> 00:12:48,330 Speaker 1: They said I think you picked already and it goes 269 00:12:48,340 --> 00:12:49,109 Speaker 1: downhill from here. 270 00:12:50,219 --> 00:12:50,820 Speaker 1: I remember you 271 00:12:50,830 --> 00:12:53,849 Speaker 2: saying this like, why would you want to say that 272 00:12:54,580 --> 00:12:57,890 Speaker 1: from someone? I love to? Yeah. So guys, what is 273 00:12:57,900 --> 00:13:00,859 Speaker 1: something that helped you to glow up that you wish 274 00:13:00,869 --> 00:13:02,919 Speaker 1: you did sooner? I said this so many times and 275 00:13:02,929 --> 00:13:07,488 Speaker 1: I'm gonna always say it sunscreen. I know it's so superficial, right? 276 00:13:07,500 --> 00:13:10,570 Speaker 1: But it's something that was so overlooked, I think for me, right? 277 00:13:10,659 --> 00:13:12,039 Speaker 1: It was braces, 278 00:13:13,390 --> 00:13:16,070 Speaker 1: braces was a big thing because like I wanted braces 279 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:17,729 Speaker 1: when I was young because I feel like whenever I 280 00:13:17,739 --> 00:13:20,479 Speaker 1: look at myself in pictures, right? So if I don't know, 281 00:13:20,619 --> 00:13:22,709 Speaker 1: smiles here. So I wish I would look in the 282 00:13:22,719 --> 00:13:26,868 Speaker 1: mirror and practice smiling when I was younger, but I 283 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:28,750 Speaker 1: just cannot then just look weird. Like 284 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:34,330 Speaker 1: so in Ns right, 1880 at the point of time, 285 00:13:34,340 --> 00:13:38,159 Speaker 1: the main stumbling block was like price like cost NSF, 286 00:13:38,169 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 1: then I pay for it myself. And I actually do, 287 00:13:41,010 --> 00:13:43,369 Speaker 1: I really need to do it. But when it was done, 288 00:13:43,489 --> 00:13:43,770 Speaker 1: like 289 00:13:44,869 --> 00:13:48,369 Speaker 1: I knew how to smile just, just fine. It was not, 290 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:50,530 Speaker 1: it was not my smile is my teeth. It's an 291 00:13:50,539 --> 00:13:54,799 Speaker 1: investment I think honestly, skin care, hair care races. Yeah, 292 00:13:54,890 --> 00:13:57,489 Speaker 1: and the thing is right. They are like these sort 293 00:13:57,500 --> 00:13:59,569 Speaker 1: of things. They don't bother everyone. So there are people 294 00:13:59,580 --> 00:14:02,340 Speaker 1: with that. They don't feel the need to to go 295 00:14:02,349 --> 00:14:03,890 Speaker 1: and get it corrected. But I think it's really more 296 00:14:03,900 --> 00:14:06,039 Speaker 1: a case of like the return on investment that you 297 00:14:06,049 --> 00:14:06,689 Speaker 1: should get right 298 00:14:06,765 --> 00:14:09,314 Speaker 1: should be how it makes you feel correct. Not how 299 00:14:09,325 --> 00:14:12,484 Speaker 1: it makes you look. It's a bit similar to exercising. 300 00:14:12,494 --> 00:14:14,414 Speaker 1: One thing I realized is that working out to feel 301 00:14:14,424 --> 00:14:16,705 Speaker 1: better is more important than working out to look better 302 00:14:16,715 --> 00:14:19,825 Speaker 1: because it is very subjective and it comes and goes 303 00:14:19,835 --> 00:14:24,604 Speaker 2: other than like physical glow ups. What internal Glow Ups 304 00:14:24,614 --> 00:14:27,934 Speaker 2: do you think exist? So that I feel I personally 305 00:14:27,945 --> 00:14:28,585 Speaker 2: feel like 306 00:14:29,130 --> 00:14:32,210 Speaker 2: when you are radiating happiness, people can actually see and 307 00:14:32,219 --> 00:14:33,090 Speaker 2: feel it. Actually, 308 00:14:33,099 --> 00:14:35,469 Speaker 1: it's quite interesting one because sometimes I will bump into people. 309 00:14:35,479 --> 00:14:37,979 Speaker 1: I've not seen years from my secondary school. Right. And 310 00:14:37,989 --> 00:14:41,849 Speaker 1: I remember this person is like super quiet, shy person. Right? 311 00:14:42,109 --> 00:14:44,359 Speaker 1: And then when IB in this person, like Nick, now 312 00:14:44,380 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 1: that it will be like a while we have like 313 00:14:46,330 --> 00:14:49,390 Speaker 1: a super back and forth conversation when I recount that 314 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:52,419 Speaker 1: interaction with another mutual friend, right? I'll be like a 315 00:14:53,299 --> 00:14:57,679 Speaker 1: different now. Yeah, like good. Yeah. The confidence, right? Yeah, 316 00:14:57,690 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 1: I said confidence is so important 317 00:14:59,409 --> 00:15:02,969 Speaker 2: and I feel like confidence doesn't always need to happen 318 00:15:02,979 --> 00:15:06,770 Speaker 2: with a physical change. It could be a realization or 319 00:15:06,780 --> 00:15:09,679 Speaker 2: you finally have found like who you are, what you 320 00:15:09,690 --> 00:15:10,289 Speaker 2: want to be. 321 00:15:11,479 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 1: Go 322 00:15:14,309 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 1: you 323 00:15:14,450 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 2: saw that? I don't know, I don't know what that is. 324 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:18,570 Speaker 2: Something in the building you go first. 325 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 1: What's the last text you sent? Question? The last text 326 00:15:26,890 --> 00:15:29,479 Speaker 1: I sent was sorry, I am running a bit late. 327 00:15:29,599 --> 00:15:30,780 Speaker 1: Stuck in traffic. 328 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:34,859 Speaker 1: What's something awkward that happened to you recently? I had 329 00:15:34,869 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 1: an awkward dream. I dreamt that I was pregnant on 330 00:15:38,210 --> 00:15:41,219 Speaker 1: this couch. You got pregnant on set. You got like no, 331 00:15:41,229 --> 00:15:44,719 Speaker 1: I was like full on nine months. Wow, big like 332 00:15:44,729 --> 00:15:47,299 Speaker 1: sitting here like that. Yeah. And I wasn't fully clothed. 333 00:15:47,450 --> 00:15:49,619 Speaker 1: Let's just say that that's a very strange 334 00:15:49,630 --> 00:15:53,090 Speaker 2: dream. When was the last time you got mad at 335 00:15:53,099 --> 00:15:55,010 Speaker 2: a friend. Ok. It was a dream. You know how 336 00:15:55,020 --> 00:15:57,099 Speaker 2: in your dream something happened, you get angry in real life. 337 00:15:57,369 --> 00:16:00,590 Speaker 2: I woke up fuming because in the dream Taylor Swift 338 00:16:00,599 --> 00:16:02,780 Speaker 2: came out and I was like, oh my God Taylor 339 00:16:02,869 --> 00:16:05,109 Speaker 2: get a hug. And then I had my phone out 340 00:16:05,119 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 2: to record it. And when she saw that I was recording, 341 00:16:07,330 --> 00:16:09,340 Speaker 2: she didn't want to hug me anymore and she went 342 00:16:09,349 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 2: to hug someone next to me and I immediately kept 343 00:16:11,330 --> 00:16:13,510 Speaker 2: my phone and I was gonna, she was gonna hug 344 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:16,770 Speaker 2: me and my friends were not recording. So I jumped 345 00:16:16,780 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 2: to the scene of me shouting at my friends like 346 00:16:18,890 --> 00:16:20,799 Speaker 2: I was like, why you never feel, you know how 347 00:16:20,809 --> 00:16:24,460 Speaker 2: important this moment is to me and I woke up angry. 348 00:16:25,590 --> 00:16:28,500 Speaker 2: It's a dream. It's a dream even in my dreams. 349 00:16:28,510 --> 00:16:29,619 Speaker 2: I love Taylor Swift. 350 00:16:31,289 --> 00:16:34,690 Speaker 1: OK, guys. Has there been a positive mentality shift since 351 00:16:34,700 --> 00:16:37,580 Speaker 1: you were a teenager? Yes, I think, right? And I 352 00:16:37,590 --> 00:16:39,229 Speaker 1: saw this on Tik Tok. I don't know how true 353 00:16:39,239 --> 00:16:43,669 Speaker 1: or whether it's in science but men, right? The frontal 354 00:16:43,679 --> 00:16:47,070 Speaker 1: loop of your brain don't develop and fully developed until 355 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 1: you're 25. Yes, I feel like there was, there was 356 00:16:50,409 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 1: a point you woke up and then you like you 357 00:16:52,530 --> 00:16:53,070 Speaker 1: felt the 358 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:55,020 Speaker 2: final piece for me. 359 00:16:55,450 --> 00:16:57,729 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was like, wake up ready. I don't know. 360 00:16:57,739 --> 00:16:59,450 Speaker 1: So I feel like I just have more clarity on 361 00:16:59,460 --> 00:17:00,210 Speaker 1: the world. 362 00:17:00,919 --> 00:17:04,739 Speaker 1: I was more assured with like my beliefs. You know, 363 00:17:04,750 --> 00:17:07,409 Speaker 1: a lot of people fear going to the late twenties 364 00:17:07,420 --> 00:17:09,669 Speaker 1: or moving into their thirties. Right. But honestly, it is 365 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:12,989 Speaker 1: the best period so far. I feel like we are 366 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:15,310 Speaker 1: more self assured. We have a stronger sense of self. 367 00:17:15,369 --> 00:17:18,099 Speaker 1: We are more aware of what's going on and what 368 00:17:18,109 --> 00:17:20,379 Speaker 1: we truly want. It's the best time of your life 369 00:17:20,699 --> 00:17:24,669 Speaker 1: and your body is still at its. You got energy. Yeah. 370 00:17:24,939 --> 00:17:27,329 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. OK. You give me a flight of stairs 371 00:17:27,339 --> 00:17:29,579 Speaker 2: and the energy will leave my body 372 00:17:30,459 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 2: t if you ask all my friends growing up, right? 373 00:17:35,390 --> 00:17:37,530 Speaker 2: I'm always the one that's like the confident, like the 374 00:17:37,540 --> 00:17:40,250 Speaker 2: leader type. And I never felt like I was afraid 375 00:17:40,260 --> 00:17:43,229 Speaker 2: to be myself. But deep down, I always felt very 376 00:17:43,239 --> 00:17:46,938 Speaker 2: insecure and I never really made peace with that because I, 377 00:17:46,949 --> 00:17:50,619 Speaker 2: to me, it felt like weakness. But if you're insecure, 378 00:17:50,630 --> 00:17:52,270 Speaker 2: it means you're not good at something. And I never 379 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:54,290 Speaker 2: wanted to admit that because I didn't want to fail. 380 00:17:54,300 --> 00:17:56,390 Speaker 2: And so I always had that internal battle 381 00:17:57,069 --> 00:18:00,420 Speaker 2: until I started therapy. I mean, also once you find 382 00:18:00,670 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 2: the right group of friends, like I've chosen to surround 383 00:18:03,290 --> 00:18:06,099 Speaker 2: myself with people who I truly feel comfortable being with. 384 00:18:06,109 --> 00:18:08,449 Speaker 2: And as much as I don't want to say, the 385 00:18:08,459 --> 00:18:11,909 Speaker 2: environmental factors are very important because it's outside of yourself, right? 386 00:18:12,300 --> 00:18:15,300 Speaker 2: It actually really helped me to feel safe to then 387 00:18:15,310 --> 00:18:18,130 Speaker 2: look inwards. So I feel like we are always if 388 00:18:18,140 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 2: you want to glow up or if you want to like, 389 00:18:19,569 --> 00:18:22,599 Speaker 2: improve on yourself, right? It means you cannot be ashamed 390 00:18:22,609 --> 00:18:25,099 Speaker 2: of anything. You must, it's a change that you must 391 00:18:25,109 --> 00:18:27,410 Speaker 2: be good at everything. Right? But I think accepting what 392 00:18:27,420 --> 00:18:29,540 Speaker 2: you're bad at it actually is very vital 393 00:18:29,550 --> 00:18:33,079 Speaker 1: to. Do you think that you can always be 100% secure? 394 00:18:33,089 --> 00:18:35,500 Speaker 1: Or there's always a bit of insecurity deep down inside. 395 00:18:35,510 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 1: I think maybe on my death bed, I'll be 100% secure. 396 00:18:38,859 --> 00:18:41,459 Speaker 1: Even if you your pants di 397 00:18:42,209 --> 00:18:44,589 Speaker 2: if I'm dying, I really won't be p I think 398 00:18:45,180 --> 00:18:47,359 Speaker 1: peace out clean my ass later by. 399 00:18:49,020 --> 00:18:51,869 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean like I feel like with age you 400 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:56,859 Speaker 1: become more secure generally, if you know a proper mature 401 00:18:56,869 --> 00:18:59,409 Speaker 1: adult that takes time to process your feelings and your 402 00:18:59,420 --> 00:19:01,409 Speaker 1: thoughts and things like that, right? As you age, you 403 00:19:01,420 --> 00:19:04,089 Speaker 1: should logically become more secure because you work out all 404 00:19:04,099 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 1: these insecurities that being said, I have also met a 405 00:19:06,569 --> 00:19:08,489 Speaker 1: lot of full grown adults there like 406 00:19:08,969 --> 00:19:13,020 Speaker 1: just projecting emotionally like not mature law. So just now 407 00:19:13,030 --> 00:19:15,170 Speaker 1: we talked a lot about Tik Tok. What are your 408 00:19:15,180 --> 00:19:18,099 Speaker 1: thoughts on post that promise viewers that they can grow 409 00:19:18,109 --> 00:19:19,910 Speaker 1: up in a short period of time. There's a few 410 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:22,189 Speaker 1: different ways to look at it, I feel because as 411 00:19:22,199 --> 00:19:24,449 Speaker 1: someone that got married last year, I think like preparing 412 00:19:24,459 --> 00:19:26,619 Speaker 1: for wedding, right is a trigger for a lot of 413 00:19:26,630 --> 00:19:28,959 Speaker 1: people in terms of growing up because I know 414 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:31,459 Speaker 1: a lot of friends, especially like now at the gym. Right. 415 00:19:31,469 --> 00:19:33,949 Speaker 1: You always see people who will come in. You'll be like, oh, 416 00:19:33,959 --> 00:19:35,709 Speaker 1: I got three months. I need to, like, I need 417 00:19:35,719 --> 00:19:38,790 Speaker 1: to lose X number of kilos to a certain extent. 418 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:41,260 Speaker 1: I think that's fine. Everybody wants to look their best 419 00:19:41,270 --> 00:19:44,400 Speaker 1: on a certain date as long as there's a one 420 00:19:44,410 --> 00:19:46,379 Speaker 1: off and it doesn't affect your mental health too badly. 421 00:19:46,390 --> 00:19:48,579 Speaker 1: Then I think, ok, but then at the same time, 422 00:19:48,589 --> 00:19:52,439 Speaker 1: if you are somebody that already has those body image issues, right? 423 00:19:52,449 --> 00:19:53,899 Speaker 1: And then you see this sort of like 424 00:19:54,609 --> 00:19:56,869 Speaker 1: like things on social media that's telling you like, hey, 425 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:59,839 Speaker 1: six months, this person managed to go from this to this. 426 00:19:59,849 --> 00:20:02,099 Speaker 1: You can to, then I think that puts a lot 427 00:20:02,109 --> 00:20:04,439 Speaker 1: of pressure on yourself that like if I don't do 428 00:20:04,449 --> 00:20:07,060 Speaker 1: it in six months, right? Then I'm a failure then 429 00:20:07,069 --> 00:20:08,430 Speaker 1: is it even worth doing at 430 00:20:08,439 --> 00:20:11,150 Speaker 2: all? People say I need to fit into my wedding dress, 431 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 2: then the dress is the wrong size. If you constantly 432 00:20:14,010 --> 00:20:16,680 Speaker 2: need to change to fit into it, right, then it's 433 00:20:16,689 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 2: the wrong 434 00:20:18,582 --> 00:20:20,741 Speaker 1: sometimes I hear this, right? And I'm like, how much 435 00:20:20,751 --> 00:20:23,112 Speaker 1: you pay for your wedding dress is from where you 436 00:20:23,121 --> 00:20:26,521 Speaker 1: buy from like online they say no, it's tailor, tailor 437 00:20:26,531 --> 00:20:31,251 Speaker 1: to your size. What I actually saw this on an 438 00:20:31,261 --> 00:20:35,202 Speaker 1: acquaintance IG story she's preparing for a wedding, right? And 439 00:20:35,212 --> 00:20:38,322 Speaker 1: then she did mention as much as she's very secure 440 00:20:38,332 --> 00:20:39,682 Speaker 1: about her body type. 441 00:20:39,813 --> 00:20:45,223 Speaker 1: A lot of Pinterest images like size six, size eight. 442 00:20:45,523 --> 00:20:48,203 Speaker 1: And it's very hard for her to move away from 443 00:20:48,213 --> 00:20:50,943 Speaker 1: that mentality when that's all she sees. Like the perfect 444 00:20:50,953 --> 00:20:53,092 Speaker 1: wedding dress or like the most beautiful wedding dresses are 445 00:20:53,104 --> 00:20:55,523 Speaker 1: always on this model looking people. I 446 00:20:55,624 --> 00:20:59,093 Speaker 2: had that same issue when I was preparing for my 447 00:20:59,104 --> 00:21:01,864 Speaker 2: wedding and I remember chanting upon this one video and 448 00:21:01,874 --> 00:21:02,343 Speaker 2: she basically 449 00:21:02,455 --> 00:21:05,234 Speaker 2: said, I look back at my wedding photos. Am I 450 00:21:05,244 --> 00:21:07,515 Speaker 2: the size? I wish I was no. Can you see 451 00:21:07,526 --> 00:21:10,225 Speaker 2: my belly in the wedding photos? Yes, but was I 452 00:21:10,234 --> 00:21:13,676 Speaker 2: the happiest I've ever been my life. Yes. Leading up 453 00:21:13,686 --> 00:21:16,345 Speaker 2: to wedding preparation. She said like she didn't want to 454 00:21:16,526 --> 00:21:20,406 Speaker 2: spend her every waking moment stressing out about whether she 455 00:21:20,416 --> 00:21:22,586 Speaker 2: was the right size for her dress. And she's happy 456 00:21:22,595 --> 00:21:24,994 Speaker 2: that when she looked back at her wedding preparation, right? 457 00:21:25,500 --> 00:21:29,630 Speaker 2: She felt happy and she felt like comfortable. And so 458 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:32,540 Speaker 2: I remember having this dress to like, what if my 459 00:21:32,550 --> 00:21:34,949 Speaker 2: arms look big from the side? And I remember looking 460 00:21:34,959 --> 00:21:36,909 Speaker 2: back at the wedding photos. I'm like, can you see 461 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:38,780 Speaker 2: my belly here? Can you see my arms here? But 462 00:21:38,790 --> 00:21:40,780 Speaker 2: I look at my face and I'm so happy and 463 00:21:40,790 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 2: I feel happy that I'm like, then honestly, I wouldn't 464 00:21:44,530 --> 00:21:45,369 Speaker 2: have done anything different. 465 00:21:45,489 --> 00:21:47,089 Speaker 1: So going back to the whole idea of putting a 466 00:21:47,099 --> 00:21:49,718 Speaker 1: time frame against when you should be able to grow up. 467 00:21:49,729 --> 00:21:52,739 Speaker 1: But I think the main takeaway here is that if 468 00:21:52,750 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 1: you are really looking for self improvement, right? 469 00:21:55,050 --> 00:21:57,430 Speaker 1: Then there is a very personal journey and like you 470 00:21:57,439 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 1: shouldn't be bound by other people's like like time frame. 471 00:22:00,530 --> 00:22:03,150 Speaker 1: Most important thing is that you find something that is sustainable. 472 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:05,079 Speaker 1: So because you grew up already, you want to stay 473 00:22:05,089 --> 00:22:08,869 Speaker 1: there rather than like, ok, now I'm like super shredded 474 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,569 Speaker 1: in two months, but then like you cannot sustain their 475 00:22:11,579 --> 00:22:13,879 Speaker 1: lifestyle and then you just bounce back, then you grow down. Yeah, 476 00:22:13,890 --> 00:22:17,869 Speaker 1: I think it also applies to things like skin care. 477 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:21,030 Speaker 1: People always promise you that this product 478 00:22:21,349 --> 00:22:24,510 Speaker 1: did this for my skin, but it doesn't apply to 479 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:29,209 Speaker 1: every skin type. So I think don't put that pressure 480 00:22:29,219 --> 00:22:29,660 Speaker 1: of 481 00:22:30,140 --> 00:22:34,109 Speaker 1: um copying someone else's way of doing things. Yeah. So 482 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:35,930 Speaker 2: I'm sure he knows about this already, but Nick, I'm 483 00:22:35,939 --> 00:22:37,670 Speaker 2: not sure if you do. It's about the 10 year 484 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:40,989 Speaker 2: olds buying a specific skin care brand. 10 year 485 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:42,089 Speaker 1: olds buying skin care 486 00:22:42,099 --> 00:22:45,909 Speaker 2: specifically to buy this one product that is I would 487 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,650 Speaker 2: say as an adult can be quite harsh even for adults, 488 00:22:48,660 --> 00:22:51,920 Speaker 2: especially if your skin is not like not experienced with 489 00:22:51,930 --> 00:22:53,020 Speaker 2: certain ingredients. No, 490 00:22:53,030 --> 00:22:55,609 Speaker 1: and they just started puberty right at this point of time, 491 00:22:55,900 --> 00:22:58,060 Speaker 1: I haven't come out yet, haven't even come out yet. 492 00:22:58,209 --> 00:23:01,790 Speaker 2: But bottom line is they're using this because all the 493 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,069 Speaker 2: other influencers are using it and their skin looks great. 494 00:23:04,079 --> 00:23:06,380 Speaker 1: So I think like you can go both ways. So 495 00:23:06,390 --> 00:23:09,430 Speaker 1: I feel like now, right, the youth of today take 496 00:23:09,439 --> 00:23:12,410 Speaker 1: better ownership of their health. So I think that their 497 00:23:12,420 --> 00:23:15,660 Speaker 1: awareness about like, ok, I'm making an investment into my 498 00:23:15,670 --> 00:23:19,469 Speaker 1: health now that future me will, will be thankful for. 499 00:23:19,479 --> 00:23:21,449 Speaker 1: I think that's a good sort of by product. But 500 00:23:21,459 --> 00:23:24,140 Speaker 1: then again, obviously when it comes to things like skin 501 00:23:24,150 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 1: care for like a 10 year old and 502 00:23:27,089 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 1: be intense. Yeah, it's very extreme. On the flip 503 00:23:30,010 --> 00:23:32,099 Speaker 2: side of that. I think as much as they are 504 00:23:32,109 --> 00:23:36,160 Speaker 2: being more aware on, you know, maintaining image and wanting 505 00:23:36,170 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 2: to look good, they are also becoming more conscious of 506 00:23:39,729 --> 00:23:43,149 Speaker 2: body image and how they present. So during COVID, we 507 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,420 Speaker 2: all had to wear masks. My friend who is a 508 00:23:45,430 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 2: primary school teacher 509 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:49,329 Speaker 2: said that a lot of the kids continued to put 510 00:23:49,339 --> 00:23:51,989 Speaker 2: their masks on and when she asked why they said 511 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:55,130 Speaker 2: because they felt ugly that if they take it off, 512 00:23:55,140 --> 00:23:57,469 Speaker 2: they will look ugly and they don't want their kids 513 00:23:57,780 --> 00:24:00,409 Speaker 2: like they are their friends to see how ugly they are. 514 00:24:00,420 --> 00:24:03,050 Speaker 2: And I'm like you are seven, I think we are 515 00:24:03,060 --> 00:24:05,939 Speaker 2: also in a very different time where you looking good 516 00:24:05,949 --> 00:24:09,510 Speaker 2: is so important. Like literally everywhere you go it's driven 517 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:09,959 Speaker 2: by 518 00:24:10,290 --> 00:24:15,550 Speaker 2: your face, like social media, your post selfies, this this, 519 00:24:15,689 --> 00:24:16,069 Speaker 2: you know what I 520 00:24:16,079 --> 00:24:19,920 Speaker 1: mean? What do you guys think are some shared pressures? 521 00:24:19,930 --> 00:24:22,469 Speaker 1: For different genders when it comes to growing up 522 00:24:23,770 --> 00:24:24,400 Speaker 1: true 523 00:24:24,719 --> 00:24:26,089 Speaker 2: hair on both sides, 524 00:24:27,989 --> 00:24:30,619 Speaker 1: both sides as in both genders. I thought this side 525 00:24:30,630 --> 00:24:33,770 Speaker 1: and this side. No, but it makes sense. Also body 526 00:24:33,839 --> 00:24:34,750 Speaker 1: hair and true 527 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 2: body hair in general. I remember seeing like a hair 528 00:24:37,770 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 2: on guys for the first time. 529 00:24:42,310 --> 00:24:42,810 Speaker 1: Not good. 530 00:24:43,469 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 2: No. As it, it's just like funny to me because 531 00:24:45,569 --> 00:24:48,270 Speaker 2: it's so unknown. Like it's weird when you go to 532 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,169 Speaker 2: the beach then like, you know, when they start lifting, 533 00:24:50,329 --> 00:24:52,050 Speaker 2: I want to see whether they have hair or not. 534 00:24:52,060 --> 00:24:55,119 Speaker 1: Now. Speaking of hair, there's a lot of pressure of 535 00:24:55,130 --> 00:24:58,989 Speaker 1: not having hair. Women I think for men is the 536 00:24:59,079 --> 00:25:01,469 Speaker 1: you b they were quite hard to deal with because 537 00:25:01,479 --> 00:25:02,409 Speaker 1: there's no like, 538 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,160 Speaker 1: like for example, for us, we can eyebrow embroidery, we 539 00:25:05,170 --> 00:25:06,739 Speaker 1: can draw, I mean they also 540 00:25:06,750 --> 00:25:08,780 Speaker 2: can they go to Turkey and do that but 541 00:25:08,790 --> 00:25:11,479 Speaker 1: it's not as accessible. Like I just go downstairs and 542 00:25:11,770 --> 00:25:12,669 Speaker 1: you know, I think 543 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:16,459 Speaker 2: growing up, right? As in for me specifically to my family, 544 00:25:16,469 --> 00:25:18,109 Speaker 2: my grandma when she watched drama, she's like what 545 00:25:18,255 --> 00:25:21,635 Speaker 2: a y like they be like her teeth very nice. 546 00:25:21,645 --> 00:25:23,734 Speaker 2: See a teeth very nice. And I grew up thinking 547 00:25:23,744 --> 00:25:26,185 Speaker 2: how come all of our teeth don't look the same 548 00:25:26,194 --> 00:25:28,724 Speaker 2: and then I realized it all as a kid. You 549 00:25:28,734 --> 00:25:29,274 Speaker 2: don't know that 550 00:25:29,285 --> 00:25:31,814 Speaker 1: something interesting, right? Is that there also needs to be 551 00:25:31,824 --> 00:25:34,984 Speaker 1: a fine line between like one thing to glow up 552 00:25:34,994 --> 00:25:37,354 Speaker 1: and wanting to improve yourself and then going a bit 553 00:25:37,364 --> 00:25:39,844 Speaker 1: too far. So I think like, when you look at 554 00:25:39,854 --> 00:25:43,145 Speaker 1: like Hollywood, for example, right, then there are always these 555 00:25:43,155 --> 00:25:45,755 Speaker 1: stories of like a wow, this actor or actress like 556 00:25:46,140 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 1: surgery until like not recognizable botched. I mean, obviously there's 557 00:25:50,810 --> 00:25:56,250 Speaker 1: some underlying psychological like motivation or potentially issues behind it, 558 00:25:56,260 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 1: la body dysmorphia and things like that, right. That causes 559 00:25:59,569 --> 00:26:01,569 Speaker 1: you to like, I just want to keep like doing 560 00:26:01,579 --> 00:26:03,550 Speaker 1: a little bit here and there. Tune up here, tune 561 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:04,060 Speaker 1: up there. 562 00:26:05,270 --> 00:26:07,619 Speaker 1: So I think at a certain point also, right? While 563 00:26:07,630 --> 00:26:10,500 Speaker 1: there's nothing wrong with wanting to improve how you look 564 00:26:10,510 --> 00:26:13,030 Speaker 1: at and as a result, how you feel you should 565 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,919 Speaker 1: also constantly be striving to like, accept yourself for the 566 00:26:15,930 --> 00:26:16,400 Speaker 1: way you are 567 00:26:16,500 --> 00:26:18,530 Speaker 2: 100% I think cannot 568 00:26:18,540 --> 00:26:21,729 Speaker 1: do finish like you always want to improve and especially 569 00:26:21,739 --> 00:26:23,649 Speaker 1: as you age, like you do something now when you're 570 00:26:23,660 --> 00:26:26,099 Speaker 1: like 28 by the time and then you think you're 571 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,829 Speaker 1: fixed it, but then you 35 is gonna like something 572 00:26:28,839 --> 00:26:30,069 Speaker 1: else will come out and then you have to go 573 00:26:30,079 --> 00:26:32,369 Speaker 1: and do it again. So at some point, I think 574 00:26:32,380 --> 00:26:33,729 Speaker 1: you also need to learn how to 575 00:26:34,319 --> 00:26:37,180 Speaker 1: love yourself. But if that makes you happy, I don't 576 00:26:37,189 --> 00:26:39,229 Speaker 1: think it's wrong either. You know, I 577 00:26:39,239 --> 00:26:41,750 Speaker 2: mean, I think it's one thing to prioritize and there's 578 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:43,189 Speaker 2: another to obsess over 579 00:26:43,650 --> 00:26:46,069 Speaker 1: it once it becomes like an obsession and that you're 580 00:26:46,079 --> 00:26:48,339 Speaker 1: constantly thinking about it and like I need to go 581 00:26:48,349 --> 00:26:49,709 Speaker 1: and fix this, I need to go and fix that 582 00:26:50,050 --> 00:26:52,969 Speaker 1: and you constantly feel that like you are not like 583 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,189 Speaker 1: there's something wrong with you. Right? Then I think that 584 00:26:55,199 --> 00:26:57,750 Speaker 1: it goes a bit deeper than like wanting to glow up. 585 00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:59,420 Speaker 1: Ready to add on to that. I did have a 586 00:26:59,430 --> 00:27:02,739 Speaker 1: phase where I remember writing my journal once. Like I 587 00:27:02,750 --> 00:27:04,750 Speaker 1: did this to my head. I did this to my skin. 588 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:05,030 Speaker 1: I did this, 589 00:27:05,104 --> 00:27:08,244 Speaker 1: I bought new clothes but I still feel like shit. 590 00:27:08,255 --> 00:27:10,435 Speaker 1: I was just nitpicking everything. I was staring in the 591 00:27:10,444 --> 00:27:12,734 Speaker 1: mirror every single day. I was like, why I hate 592 00:27:12,744 --> 00:27:15,974 Speaker 1: how I look and then I realized everything, everything stems 593 00:27:15,984 --> 00:27:18,045 Speaker 1: from how I felt within. Can I 594 00:27:18,055 --> 00:27:20,045 Speaker 2: just say to all the women out there? Right? 595 00:27:20,609 --> 00:27:22,189 Speaker 2: If you one day you wake up and you look 596 00:27:22,199 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 2: in the mirror and you be like I look like 597 00:27:23,770 --> 00:27:26,650 Speaker 2: shit today but yesterday I looked great. It's not you. 598 00:27:27,099 --> 00:27:31,069 Speaker 2: The period we have different phases and in one phase 599 00:27:31,079 --> 00:27:33,629 Speaker 2: is when our body stores the most like water and 600 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,079 Speaker 2: we crave the sugar and we like haggard, right? It's 601 00:27:36,089 --> 00:27:38,569 Speaker 2: not you because one day I wake up like damn, 602 00:27:38,579 --> 00:27:40,790 Speaker 2: I look damn good today, right? Two days time. I'm 603 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:42,410 Speaker 2: like I look like sheets. Yeah. 604 00:27:42,579 --> 00:27:44,869 Speaker 1: So all the men there, right? That if like you 605 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 1: wake up one day and then you look at me 606 00:27:46,569 --> 00:27:48,489 Speaker 1: and you feel like you look like you. 607 00:27:50,089 --> 00:27:53,079 Speaker 1: We're not there. He is. 608 00:27:54,420 --> 00:27:56,079 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for watching this episode of the 609 00:27:56,089 --> 00:27:58,349 Speaker 1: Hot Pot. You can also listen to us on Spotify 610 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 1: Apple podcast and M and don't 611 00:28:00,290 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 2: forget to turn your push notifications on. So you get 612 00:28:02,569 --> 00:28:04,160 Speaker 2: notified every time we post a new 613 00:28:04,170 --> 00:28:07,189 Speaker 1: episode and we'll see you in the next episode. Bye. 614 00:28:07,869 --> 00:28:11,780 Speaker 1: And if you haven't already, don't remember, don't remember what 615 00:28:11,790 --> 00:28:14,270 Speaker 1: to forget guys. 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