1 00:00:00,009 --> 00:00:08,399 Speaker 1: Singapore is like cool lighting. I hated his toilet. No 2 00:00:08,728 --> 00:00:08,949 Speaker 1: one 3 00:00:09,539 --> 00:00:11,818 Speaker 2: I open concept is OK. You can make eye contact 4 00:00:11,829 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 2: when your, when your partner can make 5 00:00:15,189 --> 00:00:18,649 Speaker 1: if I choose to. But nobody will do that. Quite 6 00:00:19,799 --> 00:00:22,670 Speaker 1: the sofa. I bought a $15,000 but I OK. 7 00:00:29,139 --> 00:00:31,629 Speaker 1: Hello everyone. Welcome to the hot pot where we hop 8 00:00:31,639 --> 00:00:34,520 Speaker 1: into different parts of spaces. People find themselves in during 9 00:00:34,529 --> 00:00:36,278 Speaker 1: live transitions. I'm Joey. 10 00:00:36,290 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 2: I'm K, I'm Nick. And today's topic is very interesting. 11 00:00:39,409 --> 00:00:42,959 Speaker 2: I think it's a very relatable topic at this age. 12 00:00:43,090 --> 00:00:46,750 Speaker 2: Ah popping the BT O question I BT. 13 00:00:46,869 --> 00:00:51,819 Speaker 2: Oh my. But with that also comes renovation and then 14 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:55,290 Speaker 2: today's topic, we're going to be talking about the common pitfalls, 15 00:00:55,299 --> 00:00:58,209 Speaker 2: things to look out for best practices when you are 16 00:00:58,220 --> 00:01:02,330 Speaker 2: renovating your home and who better to share his wisdom 17 00:01:02,369 --> 00:01:04,349 Speaker 2: with us than Ryan 18 00:01:06,639 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 1: the first time I can't podcast. Not to talk about 19 00:01:08,730 --> 00:01:12,279 Speaker 1: Saga or divorce. Appreciative 20 00:01:12,690 --> 00:01:15,269 Speaker 2: good vibes. Good. A safe space. 21 00:01:15,279 --> 00:01:17,809 Speaker 1: Yes. Is it maybe all the script that you all 22 00:01:17,819 --> 00:01:21,269 Speaker 1: give me is just a script. There's a home screen, 23 00:01:21,279 --> 00:01:21,980 Speaker 1: then later you start. 24 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:24,730 Speaker 1: Oh, 25 00:01:26,260 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 1: ok. So my name is Ryan. I've been doing mainly 26 00:01:28,970 --> 00:01:32,789 Speaker 1: youtube content for the past 11 years. So I think 27 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:35,750 Speaker 1: I started with comedy skits, but as my audience grew up, 28 00:01:35,819 --> 00:01:38,900 Speaker 1: they evolved their taste la so like instead of comedy 29 00:01:38,910 --> 00:01:41,069 Speaker 1: now they want to see like travel, food, home and 30 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:44,660 Speaker 1: design and things like that. So we've been do into 31 00:01:44,669 --> 00:01:47,269 Speaker 1: a lot of that content. Yeah. So you're kind of 32 00:01:47,279 --> 00:01:50,879 Speaker 1: known for the Renault and ID segment. And also 33 00:01:51,175 --> 00:01:54,114 Speaker 1: then, so what made you want to start? Get ID 34 00:01:54,125 --> 00:01:57,745 Speaker 1: is a genuine interest. I really like home and design 35 00:01:57,785 --> 00:02:00,864 Speaker 1: because I feel like 11 years of doing content in Singapore. 36 00:02:00,875 --> 00:02:03,565 Speaker 1: I've been to like most places in the most restaurants, 37 00:02:03,574 --> 00:02:06,035 Speaker 1: most shopping or nothing much to see. The only thing 38 00:02:06,044 --> 00:02:10,633 Speaker 1: we can't see is other people house. You see. So 39 00:02:10,645 --> 00:02:12,913 Speaker 1: I started to think of that and start to make 40 00:02:12,925 --> 00:02:15,164 Speaker 1: some content of it as I excuse to go see 41 00:02:15,205 --> 00:02:16,065 Speaker 1: people's house. Yeah, 42 00:02:16,179 --> 00:02:18,490 Speaker 1: there's a lot of houses, beautiful houses that I went 43 00:02:18,500 --> 00:02:21,089 Speaker 1: to see. But of course, sometimes the owner say they 44 00:02:21,100 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: want to show. But when I see is like amazing. 45 00:02:23,729 --> 00:02:27,309 Speaker 1: I never knew Singapore can have these houses actually after dinner. 46 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:30,399 Speaker 1: Sometimes like and dessert. Right. Then we'd want to go home, 47 00:02:30,410 --> 00:02:32,630 Speaker 1: my friends and I would just drive around the richer, 48 00:02:34,250 --> 00:02:35,869 Speaker 2: right and see the outside. 49 00:02:37,059 --> 00:02:39,109 Speaker 1: Really nothing to do. Then that's our fun. I do 50 00:02:39,119 --> 00:02:41,079 Speaker 1: that quite often. I just like looking on it. Then 51 00:02:41,184 --> 00:02:43,964 Speaker 1: the kids recognize me, father will invite me in just 52 00:02:43,975 --> 00:02:45,964 Speaker 1: to drink coffee or tea then say, oh my kids 53 00:02:45,975 --> 00:02:47,654 Speaker 1: really like to watch a car and then just like 54 00:02:47,663 --> 00:02:51,345 Speaker 1: make a contact. But has anyone said that you look 55 00:02:51,354 --> 00:02:55,424 Speaker 1: suspicious outside the picture of people's house? I never think 56 00:02:55,675 --> 00:02:58,085 Speaker 1: I just really see. Then I write down like what 57 00:02:58,095 --> 00:03:02,195 Speaker 1: our inspiration I want for my house opposite instead of 58 00:03:02,205 --> 00:03:04,464 Speaker 1: the uncle in a white van asked you to go in, right? 59 00:03:04,494 --> 00:03:05,764 Speaker 1: The kids come, 60 00:03:07,279 --> 00:03:10,269 Speaker 2: it makes sense because like renovating a home is a 61 00:03:10,279 --> 00:03:14,259 Speaker 2: very relatable experience to a lot of people, especially like, 62 00:03:14,660 --> 00:03:16,070 Speaker 2: you know, when you're looking to settle down and things 63 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:18,919 Speaker 2: like that. But then a lot of people don't know 64 00:03:18,940 --> 00:03:22,728 Speaker 2: how any inspiration and Pinterest can only get you so far. 65 00:03:23,139 --> 00:03:28,228 Speaker 2: So like localized inspiration is super helpful. I think 66 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: the ID Space in Singapore, the renovation space in Singapore 67 00:03:32,839 --> 00:03:37,770 Speaker 1: feels very backwards. OK? If we look at China, for example, 68 00:03:37,779 --> 00:03:40,460 Speaker 1: we are like 10 years behind like, OK, for example, 69 00:03:40,470 --> 00:03:42,539 Speaker 1: now what we have is like maybe a bit of 70 00:03:42,550 --> 00:03:45,940 Speaker 1: smart hole, soft closing, we think it is very impressive. Ok? 71 00:03:45,949 --> 00:03:48,059 Speaker 1: Not too bad, but in China, you have like the 72 00:03:48,070 --> 00:03:50,809 Speaker 1: big coming down from the ceiling and things like that. Yeah, 73 00:03:50,895 --> 00:03:54,675 Speaker 1: it is already on another level, futuristic and not only that, 74 00:03:54,684 --> 00:03:58,304 Speaker 1: I generally feel like I DS in Singapore, they play 75 00:03:58,315 --> 00:04:00,955 Speaker 1: it safe, they always have these two template design. We 76 00:04:00,964 --> 00:04:05,464 Speaker 1: have one is modern Lux, another is Scandinavian, everybody has 77 00:04:05,604 --> 00:04:07,654 Speaker 1: the same. I'm not gonna lie. Right. Recently I went 78 00:04:07,664 --> 00:04:08,794 Speaker 1: to my friend's house. Right. 79 00:04:09,139 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 1: It's like they always buy the same type of furniture. 80 00:04:12,740 --> 00:04:14,550 Speaker 1: Then the white shelves, 81 00:04:17,950 --> 00:04:18,079 Speaker 2: scandy 82 00:04:18,980 --> 00:04:22,409 Speaker 1: one kind of, I never say don't buy Taobao, but 83 00:04:22,690 --> 00:04:25,058 Speaker 1: you can buy sting items. I don't think you should 84 00:04:25,070 --> 00:04:29,239 Speaker 1: buy like, the big items or so far because sometimes 85 00:04:29,250 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 1: depending on where you, but you might not get what you, 86 00:04:31,700 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 1: what you order. Yeah. So, so I, I feel like 87 00:04:35,096 --> 00:04:37,036 Speaker 1: in the end, right, a lot of people houses are 88 00:04:37,045 --> 00:04:38,044 Speaker 1: the same. It 89 00:04:38,055 --> 00:04:40,635 Speaker 2: makes sense also because like from start to finish everybody 90 00:04:40,645 --> 00:04:44,955 Speaker 2: following template because the house you get HDB, same layout, 91 00:04:45,015 --> 00:04:48,036 Speaker 2: same few rooms, then you go to the ID ID 92 00:04:48,045 --> 00:04:52,256 Speaker 2: were like I prefabricate like my carpentry for this client, 93 00:04:52,265 --> 00:04:54,026 Speaker 2: this client, this client, this client. So everybody gets the 94 00:04:54,036 --> 00:04:57,164 Speaker 2: same kind of like carpentry layout, furnishing everybody by from 95 00:04:57,175 --> 00:04:59,605 Speaker 2: the same top of. So everybody ends the same house 96 00:04:59,635 --> 00:05:00,055 Speaker 2: I think because 97 00:05:00,065 --> 00:05:00,985 Speaker 1: no one really knows where 98 00:05:01,212 --> 00:05:04,451 Speaker 1: to truly look for. Like the niche places to look for, 99 00:05:04,462 --> 00:05:07,032 Speaker 1: which is why I think my video I should showcase 100 00:05:07,082 --> 00:05:11,351 Speaker 1: like there's not only or there's so many other furniture places, 101 00:05:11,361 --> 00:05:14,871 Speaker 1: there are more unique pieces like I don't know, like 102 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:17,701 Speaker 1: gray and centers or commune and these type of places 103 00:05:17,712 --> 00:05:20,851 Speaker 1: that has more unique furniture that your house will look 104 00:05:20,861 --> 00:05:23,652 Speaker 1: like the same as everybody else. What if your knowledge 105 00:05:23,661 --> 00:05:27,002 Speaker 1: Ford or generally Renault Group 106 00:05:27,197 --> 00:05:32,666 Speaker 1: from, from doing content. My, my dad was a architect. 107 00:05:32,678 --> 00:05:36,226 Speaker 1: So I think from young, I exposed to it, I didn't, 108 00:05:36,238 --> 00:05:39,077 Speaker 1: didn't work for him or follow him but like exposed 109 00:05:39,088 --> 00:05:42,327 Speaker 1: to it. Yeah. So, but he has always been my interest. 110 00:05:42,338 --> 00:05:44,467 Speaker 1: I think everybody got this dream. I want my dream 111 00:05:44,476 --> 00:05:46,907 Speaker 1: house to look like this or that. But I took 112 00:05:46,916 --> 00:05:50,037 Speaker 1: it a lot more serious. Like II I don't want 113 00:05:50,048 --> 00:05:52,178 Speaker 1: to say I wait until I can get this very 114 00:05:52,187 --> 00:05:52,997 Speaker 1: rare because I want to make 115 00:05:53,084 --> 00:05:56,544 Speaker 1: like my current space or whatever housing that I can 116 00:05:56,553 --> 00:05:58,273 Speaker 1: afford now to be my dream house. I will make 117 00:05:58,283 --> 00:06:00,743 Speaker 1: it to the best you can. Just speaking of dream house. 118 00:06:00,753 --> 00:06:03,313 Speaker 1: What are your dream house? Dream house. What does it 119 00:06:03,324 --> 00:06:05,183 Speaker 1: look like to you? For me? I think I already 120 00:06:05,194 --> 00:06:07,664 Speaker 1: bought my dream house to be very honest. Yeah, because 121 00:06:07,963 --> 00:06:09,794 Speaker 1: I don't plan to have kids. So I don't want 122 00:06:09,803 --> 00:06:12,544 Speaker 1: to stay landed. I like efficient condos. I don't like 123 00:06:12,553 --> 00:06:15,462 Speaker 1: condos with a lot of fluff and unnecessary things like 124 00:06:15,473 --> 00:06:18,943 Speaker 1: one roof terrace. Some people like balcony, I don't really like. 125 00:06:19,350 --> 00:06:21,850 Speaker 1: Yeah or a lot of wasted space, bay window, air 126 00:06:21,859 --> 00:06:25,670 Speaker 1: con la. So I like very usable space. Squarish layout, 127 00:06:25,678 --> 00:06:28,589 Speaker 1: floor to ceiling windows will be a nice touch. So 128 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 1: I managed to find all that in my current house 129 00:06:30,928 --> 00:06:33,808 Speaker 1: that I bought today this year. Yeah. How about you? 130 00:06:35,260 --> 00:06:38,250 Speaker 1: I think my perfect home would be a mix of 131 00:06:38,260 --> 00:06:42,220 Speaker 1: like a farmhouse and a New York City apartment because 132 00:06:42,230 --> 00:06:45,269 Speaker 1: I like the idea of having my own garden and 133 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:47,519 Speaker 1: a yard. But I also like hearing the sound of 134 00:06:47,529 --> 00:06:49,969 Speaker 1: the city. I know this is, this is dreamland. Maybe 135 00:06:49,980 --> 00:06:52,869 Speaker 1: it seems I can have this house, those condo that 136 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:56,149 Speaker 1: you're talking about at least 56 million. But she's moving 137 00:06:56,160 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 1: to America. Ok. Then maybe I can have the fake 138 00:07:00,329 --> 00:07:02,118 Speaker 1: New York City mall. I play the, 139 00:07:04,615 --> 00:07:07,466 Speaker 1: is there a white noise? You just find car, correct? Is, 140 00:07:07,476 --> 00:07:09,265 Speaker 1: are you living in your dream house? I've been to 141 00:07:09,276 --> 00:07:12,645 Speaker 1: his house before because he holds a lot of gatherings. Wait, wait, breakfast, 142 00:07:12,656 --> 00:07:13,976 Speaker 1: his toilet. No one. 143 00:07:14,246 --> 00:07:16,626 Speaker 2: Yeah, I got open concept but you stay alone. No, no, 144 00:07:16,635 --> 00:07:20,614 Speaker 2: my wife, two of us, just kids. Then you get what? No, no, no. 145 00:07:20,626 --> 00:07:24,335 Speaker 2: The master bedroom toilet is open concept. That's ok. 146 00:07:24,656 --> 00:07:28,165 Speaker 1: That's ok. Ok. Ok. The house that I bought the 147 00:07:28,175 --> 00:07:29,066 Speaker 1: toilet also open up 148 00:07:29,361 --> 00:07:31,941 Speaker 1: full glass. You can see, but it's ok. You can 149 00:07:31,951 --> 00:07:32,101 Speaker 1: make eye 150 00:07:32,122 --> 00:07:35,802 Speaker 2: contact when your, when your partner can make. I 151 00:07:36,161 --> 00:07:40,261 Speaker 1: choose to, but nobody will do that. Quite fun. No, no, 152 00:07:40,372 --> 00:07:42,582 Speaker 1: it's not for the eye contact. It's just generally like 153 00:07:42,592 --> 00:07:47,122 Speaker 1: you walk past it. You see that you're exposed is 154 00:07:47,911 --> 00:07:52,011 Speaker 1: I've never, but I, I thought the audience on this 155 00:07:52,022 --> 00:07:55,071 Speaker 1: podcast before that someone I dated shame from me without consent. 156 00:07:56,589 --> 00:07:59,359 Speaker 1: We're not very so. Right. Right. I think when you 157 00:07:59,369 --> 00:08:02,350 Speaker 1: are married or stay together long enough, you become normalized. 158 00:08:03,589 --> 00:08:05,079 Speaker 1: It's not even a thing. He can be shitty. You 159 00:08:05,089 --> 00:08:08,029 Speaker 1: will be talking some serious things, right? There's no, 160 00:08:09,250 --> 00:08:15,459 Speaker 1: you just interesting. Ok. But going back to your house, 161 00:08:16,209 --> 00:08:18,649 Speaker 2: my place. No, I think when we bought the place 162 00:08:18,660 --> 00:08:21,399 Speaker 2: and when we renovated it, the horizon was always like 163 00:08:21,559 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 2: seven years, 7 to 10 years max, then we will 164 00:08:24,890 --> 00:08:27,790 Speaker 2: probably want to move to a bigger place. I'm currently 165 00:08:27,799 --> 00:08:31,630 Speaker 2: in a ground floor condo because I'm into plants. So 166 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:33,119 Speaker 2: I grow like 167 00:08:33,460 --> 00:08:34,469 Speaker 2: exotic plants, 168 00:08:35,940 --> 00:08:38,479 Speaker 1: exotic house plant. So your patio is well used. 169 00:08:39,450 --> 00:08:41,859 Speaker 2: But I think long run, I would like to live 170 00:08:41,869 --> 00:08:44,609 Speaker 2: in a high floor. So maybe a penthouse, right? Not 171 00:08:44,619 --> 00:08:47,859 Speaker 2: too much outdoor space because I also like like the 172 00:08:47,869 --> 00:08:49,140 Speaker 2: built up. Then you will love my con. 173 00:08:51,289 --> 00:08:52,949 Speaker 1: I would just openly say the condo is called the 174 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:56,069 Speaker 1: Trumps Make Singapore. Great. Again, do you think a lot 175 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:58,229 Speaker 1: of people play it safe because they want to resell 176 00:08:58,239 --> 00:09:01,119 Speaker 1: in the future? I think so. But I don't know, 177 00:09:01,130 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 1: I most people, I, 178 00:09:03,429 --> 00:09:05,340 Speaker 1: I talked to my audience come and talk to me 179 00:09:05,349 --> 00:09:08,450 Speaker 1: about the renovation. I not only the play safe, then 180 00:09:08,460 --> 00:09:11,890 Speaker 1: they won't want to spend too much. They see as temporary, 181 00:09:11,900 --> 00:09:15,789 Speaker 1: but to me, 5 to 7 years, right? You should 182 00:09:15,809 --> 00:09:17,799 Speaker 1: at least try to leave. Do you know it makes 183 00:09:17,809 --> 00:09:19,439 Speaker 1: so much of a difference, right? If you come back 184 00:09:19,450 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 1: to home that you enjoy 185 00:09:20,969 --> 00:09:23,909 Speaker 1: back to your head space is so much better, you 186 00:09:23,919 --> 00:09:26,369 Speaker 1: can think so much better and you're motivated work. Then 187 00:09:26,380 --> 00:09:29,450 Speaker 1: a lot of people focus a lot on practicality or 188 00:09:29,460 --> 00:09:32,510 Speaker 1: easier to clean all that. I don't know. For me, 189 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:34,580 Speaker 1: I like a little bit more aesthetic because I really 190 00:09:34,590 --> 00:09:37,358 Speaker 1: feel right? Like when you come back to a beautiful home, 191 00:09:37,369 --> 00:09:38,429 Speaker 1: you see you happy, right? 192 00:09:38,690 --> 00:09:40,989 Speaker 1: The mood when your mood is better, right? You do 193 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:43,780 Speaker 1: everything also you feel like you want to clean more. 194 00:09:43,789 --> 00:09:45,738 Speaker 1: You want to take care of the space I feel 195 00:09:45,869 --> 00:09:48,340 Speaker 1: I feel is is it the pan a lot of 196 00:09:48,349 --> 00:09:49,150 Speaker 1: people like to say but 197 00:09:52,159 --> 00:09:54,809 Speaker 2: whenever someone has flu panels in their house and then 198 00:09:54,820 --> 00:09:57,549 Speaker 2: it appears in a video or a single, right? The 199 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:00,780 Speaker 2: comments confirm me like very hard to be difficult to clean. 200 00:10:01,549 --> 00:10:03,140 Speaker 1: It's just like having a rock. 201 00:10:03,265 --> 00:10:06,614 Speaker 1: Yeah, because it's just troublesome to clean but it makes 202 00:10:06,625 --> 00:10:08,554 Speaker 1: so much of a difference there like it's so such 203 00:10:08,565 --> 00:10:11,414 Speaker 1: a cozy space, it's nice but then you've got sensitive skin, 204 00:10:11,424 --> 00:10:14,484 Speaker 1: then you lazy to vacuum these rashes. There is a fact, right? 205 00:10:14,494 --> 00:10:18,205 Speaker 1: That everything will have dust, nothing escapes us. 206 00:10:18,734 --> 00:10:20,674 Speaker 2: Now that you've seen so many houses talk to so 207 00:10:20,684 --> 00:10:23,843 Speaker 2: many homeowners, right? What are the most common issues or 208 00:10:23,854 --> 00:10:26,074 Speaker 2: regrets that like you hear, I 209 00:10:26,085 --> 00:10:27,594 Speaker 1: think one thing 210 00:10:28,119 --> 00:10:31,919 Speaker 1: I really want people to take note is like, ok, 211 00:10:31,979 --> 00:10:34,270 Speaker 1: your house can make house like how nice, right? How 212 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:37,159 Speaker 1: beautiful you can spend a lot of money in your renovation, right? 213 00:10:37,419 --> 00:10:39,469 Speaker 1: And then you just get the wrong lights. Finish. Oh 214 00:10:39,479 --> 00:10:42,020 Speaker 1: my God. Big light and then Singapore is like cool 215 00:10:42,030 --> 00:10:51,330 Speaker 1: lighting it in such a frequency, right? That human eyes 216 00:10:51,340 --> 00:10:54,950 Speaker 1: can't detect but it really freke. So it really slowly, slowly, 217 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:57,539 Speaker 1: it will give you headache and I really get, but 218 00:10:57,900 --> 00:11:01,409 Speaker 1: nobody seemed to understand they think is to help them 219 00:11:01,745 --> 00:11:05,565 Speaker 1: focus. So recently got one science study, OK? They put 220 00:11:05,575 --> 00:11:08,585 Speaker 1: in two classroom, one classroom white, like one classroom are 221 00:11:08,596 --> 00:11:11,585 Speaker 1: yellow like six months, six months, the one in the 222 00:11:11,596 --> 00:11:15,285 Speaker 1: yellow light, right? They scored 20 to 30% better in 223 00:11:15,296 --> 00:11:18,564 Speaker 1: the exam. It helps you to focus better because of 224 00:11:18,575 --> 00:11:20,565 Speaker 1: how it emulates sunlight. So this 225 00:11:20,575 --> 00:11:23,046 Speaker 2: energizes you. I research on this before because I was like, 226 00:11:23,056 --> 00:11:25,934 Speaker 2: why do, why is my office like that? Like it Florence, 227 00:11:26,851 --> 00:11:27,812 Speaker 2: it's just it 228 00:11:29,861 --> 00:11:34,171 Speaker 1: is cheap but it's really a very bad quality. I see. OK. 229 00:11:34,182 --> 00:11:36,330 Speaker 1: But home wise any other regrets that people you should 230 00:11:36,341 --> 00:11:43,101 Speaker 1: have ceiling fan placement, ceiling fan placement because it intersects 231 00:11:43,111 --> 00:11:44,901 Speaker 1: with the light, right? And then it causes the shadow. 232 00:11:44,910 --> 00:11:49,551 Speaker 1: So some people like I just want to be cooling here, 233 00:11:49,562 --> 00:11:50,291 Speaker 1: cooling there. Then 234 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:51,710 Speaker 1: I never 235 00:11:51,719 --> 00:11:55,190 Speaker 2: plan actually a good idea, right? My idea was super 236 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:57,549 Speaker 2: like meticulous about this. So I say I want ceiling 237 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:00,619 Speaker 2: fan then she will tell me OK, for this space, 238 00:12:00,630 --> 00:12:03,710 Speaker 2: we need how many lights to illuminate the space sufficiently 239 00:12:03,719 --> 00:12:06,489 Speaker 2: that means your ceiling fan can only be max this 240 00:12:06,500 --> 00:12:09,488 Speaker 2: size and they must have how much clearance. If not 241 00:12:09,500 --> 00:12:10,929 Speaker 2: you will get the shadow. 242 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:16,580 Speaker 1: Another one I will say guest guest room is not 243 00:12:16,590 --> 00:12:19,969 Speaker 1: something very often used, depending, but most of the people 244 00:12:19,979 --> 00:12:23,729 Speaker 1: Singapore is so small. Nico, you just wait, just grab 245 00:12:23,780 --> 00:12:26,439 Speaker 1: 20 minutes. So it's very underutilized by a lot of 246 00:12:26,450 --> 00:12:28,500 Speaker 1: people like one space if your house is that big. 247 00:12:28,570 --> 00:12:32,609 Speaker 1: I understand. But last time when I had my house, right, 248 00:12:33,229 --> 00:12:35,590 Speaker 1: I catered the space for a lot of like parties 249 00:12:35,599 --> 00:12:38,070 Speaker 1: and friends and all that. So like our balcony roof 250 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:40,979 Speaker 1: terrace because after my saga, I lost most of my friend. 251 00:12:40,989 --> 00:12:43,210 Speaker 1: Nobody come on. So now the whole house, the whole 252 00:12:43,219 --> 00:12:44,530 Speaker 1: design is like 253 00:12:44,979 --> 00:12:47,478 Speaker 1: it was wasted, it was meant to host parties, but 254 00:12:47,489 --> 00:12:50,299 Speaker 1: there's nothing. So my new house I is much bigger 255 00:12:50,309 --> 00:12:52,669 Speaker 1: space but I don't care. I just cater for myself. 256 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:56,159 Speaker 1: I don't have guess. Would you recommend for people to 257 00:12:56,169 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 1: change that guest house into? I think you can make 258 00:12:58,770 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 1: it like a recreation room, study room. All right, then 259 00:13:00,890 --> 00:13:02,979 Speaker 1: you put Murphy bed if you really want my 260 00:13:02,989 --> 00:13:07,119 Speaker 2: friend, right? Purposely the one guest room, right? Because the 261 00:13:07,283 --> 00:13:11,203 Speaker 2: the parents to come and stay my friend, my friend, 262 00:13:13,403 --> 00:13:16,122 Speaker 1: I remember your house don't have guest room. I got, 263 00:13:16,393 --> 00:13:20,732 Speaker 2: I got no space to put guest room apparently. Like 264 00:13:20,742 --> 00:13:21,913 Speaker 2: there are lot of people before they have a guest 265 00:13:21,922 --> 00:13:24,793 Speaker 2: room because their parents want them to have a guest room. 266 00:13:25,612 --> 00:13:28,612 Speaker 1: What about following renovation trends that only last for a 267 00:13:28,622 --> 00:13:29,352 Speaker 1: while now 268 00:13:29,445 --> 00:13:33,385 Speaker 1: do what you like? And I feel like a proper renovation. 269 00:13:33,395 --> 00:13:35,986 Speaker 1: I shouldn't stick to one thing you cannot say unless 270 00:13:36,236 --> 00:13:38,276 Speaker 1: you even then my whole house is you're making a 271 00:13:38,285 --> 00:13:40,796 Speaker 1: home and you're not making a museum so you can 272 00:13:40,806 --> 00:13:43,616 Speaker 1: mix it around if you're living room. Is this? Maybe 273 00:13:43,625 --> 00:13:46,145 Speaker 1: you try your room, something else, your study room, something else. 274 00:13:46,245 --> 00:13:48,625 Speaker 1: It can be a mix of things to feel like 275 00:13:48,635 --> 00:13:51,346 Speaker 1: more like home as few or 276 00:13:52,330 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 1: magazine like, yeah, and depending on your occupation. OK. So 277 00:13:55,409 --> 00:13:57,450 Speaker 1: for me because I'm a content, I show a lot 278 00:13:57,460 --> 00:14:00,199 Speaker 1: of video, take a lot of photos, then my house 279 00:14:00,210 --> 00:14:03,890 Speaker 1: I want to look PP is one thing must be bright, 280 00:14:03,900 --> 00:14:06,299 Speaker 1: cannot have reflective surface because we don't want the light 281 00:14:06,309 --> 00:14:09,789 Speaker 1: to spill or a lot of mirrors for reflection. Yeah. 282 00:14:09,799 --> 00:14:12,650 Speaker 1: So that's very tactical when I when I think about. 283 00:14:13,599 --> 00:14:17,589 Speaker 1: So it depends on how your house can, can, can, can, 284 00:14:17,599 --> 00:14:19,659 Speaker 1: can best suit your character. So 285 00:14:19,669 --> 00:14:22,130 Speaker 2: the place you are renovating now your dream home, right? What, 286 00:14:22,570 --> 00:14:23,669 Speaker 2: what's the style? It 287 00:14:23,690 --> 00:14:26,780 Speaker 1: is actually quite L A slash New York style because 288 00:14:26,799 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 1: for 270 degree floor to singing windows and then we 289 00:14:30,650 --> 00:14:33,429 Speaker 1: are viewing to unblock landed enclave 290 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:36,349 Speaker 1: and high floor. So you was really seeing all the 291 00:14:36,359 --> 00:14:48,119 Speaker 1: way to see like why basically is like like 292 00:14:48,299 --> 00:14:50,859 Speaker 2: I know this one wall, the rest window 293 00:14:51,895 --> 00:14:56,575 Speaker 1: floor to ceiling. So I thought the idea I want 294 00:14:56,664 --> 00:14:59,755 Speaker 1: L A style and I want the attention to be 295 00:14:59,765 --> 00:15:03,724 Speaker 1: drawn out to the view. So everything we do, we 296 00:15:03,825 --> 00:15:05,434 Speaker 1: amplify the view. 297 00:15:05,914 --> 00:15:08,184 Speaker 2: Stay tuned. I assume that there will be a video. 298 00:15:10,559 --> 00:15:10,690 Speaker 2: Got 299 00:15:12,330 --> 00:15:14,109 Speaker 2: guest first Ryan. When 300 00:15:14,119 --> 00:15:18,299 Speaker 1: was the last time you thought something or someone was 301 00:15:18,309 --> 00:15:27,119 Speaker 1: them overkill? Overkill? Clever. Wow. Wow. Ok. So I, I 302 00:15:27,130 --> 00:15:30,599 Speaker 1: seldom like to go to events, right? Because sometimes I 303 00:15:30,609 --> 00:15:31,359 Speaker 1: feel people, 304 00:15:31,969 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 1: people very poor. Paul is like, ok, wait, I need 305 00:15:40,409 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 1: to give a proper context. Ok. Like when 3.5 years 306 00:15:43,090 --> 00:15:44,190 Speaker 1: ago the saga happened, right? 307 00:15:44,450 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 1: These same people like avoided me like a plaque for me. 308 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:51,619 Speaker 1: Never reply me. But now Ryan, long time. No. See 309 00:15:51,630 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 1: all that that I feel like so it's like being 310 00:15:54,570 --> 00:16:00,119 Speaker 1: some very over. What are usually people's first impressions of you? 311 00:16:00,130 --> 00:16:01,710 Speaker 1: I asked Ryan first impression. 312 00:16:02,119 --> 00:16:03,809 Speaker 1: I'm very scared now. I don't know. I don't know. 313 00:16:03,820 --> 00:16:07,070 Speaker 1: I just feel maybe you haven't been in a lot 314 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:09,619 Speaker 1: of relationship because you never told you go. So if 315 00:16:09,630 --> 00:16:13,590 Speaker 1: you like still feels like very new to life exploring already, 316 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:24,099 Speaker 1: I want another topic. You are the only person in 317 00:16:24,109 --> 00:16:26,340 Speaker 1: the world who owns a car. Do you choose to 318 00:16:26,349 --> 00:16:29,419 Speaker 1: scrap your car or lock it up behind a Titanium 319 00:16:29,429 --> 00:16:31,739 Speaker 1: reinforced garage? So nobody steals it. 320 00:16:33,539 --> 00:16:36,059 Speaker 2: I think just crap. But why can't I just drive it. 321 00:16:37,369 --> 00:16:40,109 Speaker 2: I assume the need to lock is because everybody want 322 00:16:40,119 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 2: to steal the whole paper. Let's say you have a 323 00:16:44,969 --> 00:16:49,159 Speaker 2: cactus stuck onto your back and the pain is excruciating. 324 00:16:49,210 --> 00:16:51,299 Speaker 2: The only person who will be able to get it 325 00:16:51,309 --> 00:16:55,239 Speaker 2: out is the one person you hate most in the world. However, 326 00:16:55,390 --> 00:16:59,030 Speaker 2: there is a 50% chance they will stick another cactus 327 00:16:59,039 --> 00:17:00,979 Speaker 2: into your face and leave you there. 328 00:17:01,500 --> 00:17:02,719 Speaker 2: Do you approach? 329 00:17:03,650 --> 00:17:06,060 Speaker 2: I think I leave the cactus there. Really? You put 330 00:17:06,069 --> 00:17:08,170 Speaker 2: on the face that one just in the back. Ok. 331 00:17:08,180 --> 00:17:08,780 Speaker 2: We respect 332 00:17:08,790 --> 00:17:09,020 Speaker 1: that. 333 00:17:10,099 --> 00:17:12,419 Speaker 1: Ok. Let's talk about costs because that's one of the 334 00:17:12,430 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 1: biggest consideration actually for me, right? I'm so far from 335 00:17:15,770 --> 00:17:18,119 Speaker 1: renovating a place. I don't know how much it costs 336 00:17:18,130 --> 00:17:20,719 Speaker 1: actually really depends a lot of things. Some people like Nikki, 337 00:17:20,729 --> 00:17:24,109 Speaker 1: how you got 10,000, right? They top everything also possible. 338 00:17:24,140 --> 00:17:28,469 Speaker 1: It really depends what as what exactly you want. But 339 00:17:28,479 --> 00:17:30,640 Speaker 1: I think a healthy range for like 340 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:35,659 Speaker 1: if you want it reasonably nice, like a HDB maybe 341 00:17:35,729 --> 00:17:40,099 Speaker 1: three room like that B BT now getting smaller as well. 342 00:17:40,109 --> 00:17:45,139 Speaker 1: That's really hard. I will say 5050 K will look 343 00:17:45,150 --> 00:17:49,629 Speaker 1: decent decent as in above top level. Ok. So renovation 344 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:53,099 Speaker 1: your fun to you because the one portion is like 345 00:17:53,109 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 1: fittings like your lights, like your towel like or 346 00:17:56,542 --> 00:17:59,561 Speaker 1: the other things is like your furniture or the carpentry, 347 00:17:59,571 --> 00:18:03,363 Speaker 1: carpentry is so expensive, correct? So most of the renovation, right? 348 00:18:03,373 --> 00:18:06,321 Speaker 1: They do like carpentry towels and everything, me or furniture. 349 00:18:06,373 --> 00:18:09,142 Speaker 1: So sometimes when you see people's house is like very rare, 350 00:18:09,152 --> 00:18:12,061 Speaker 1: empty one. How they, what they buy after that? I 351 00:18:12,071 --> 00:18:15,022 Speaker 1: actually quite determine how the house gonna look like. So 352 00:18:15,032 --> 00:18:18,061 Speaker 1: if you buy about how right. I was gonna look. Yeah, 353 00:18:18,071 --> 00:18:20,613 Speaker 1: I remember when my dad just got his place and 354 00:18:20,623 --> 00:18:21,162 Speaker 1: then at the time 355 00:18:21,666 --> 00:18:25,365 Speaker 1: we were doing our ID and then when pay the time, right? 356 00:18:25,375 --> 00:18:27,514 Speaker 1: I'm like, I've never seen so many zeros in my life. 357 00:18:27,526 --> 00:18:29,946 Speaker 1: And that's how I learned that carpentry is so expensive 358 00:18:29,955 --> 00:18:34,206 Speaker 1: because it's basically like custom furniture, right? Even like after 359 00:18:34,215 --> 00:18:37,416 Speaker 1: buying cheaper furniture online, I think we hit about 100 K. 360 00:18:38,455 --> 00:18:41,696 Speaker 2: There's some formula, right? Like I mean the guidelines in 361 00:18:41,705 --> 00:18:43,315 Speaker 2: terms of like the value of your house or the 362 00:18:43,326 --> 00:18:45,254 Speaker 2: price you pay for your house, then it's a percentage 363 00:18:45,265 --> 00:18:46,225 Speaker 2: that's the amount you should 364 00:18:46,900 --> 00:18:49,810 Speaker 2: look to spend on your Renault. But at the same time, 365 00:18:49,819 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 2: it's also dependent on things like what's the condition of 366 00:18:52,810 --> 00:18:54,958 Speaker 2: the place? Like if it's super old and you might 367 00:18:54,969 --> 00:18:57,890 Speaker 2: want to redo the wiring, the plumbing and things like that. 368 00:18:57,930 --> 00:18:58,649 Speaker 2: I know that it cost. 369 00:18:58,770 --> 00:19:00,489 Speaker 1: So if I'm going to spend the next 57 years 370 00:19:00,500 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 1: there and that is best case scenario 57 years, right? 371 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:06,349 Speaker 1: I want to live very comfortably. There's a lot, a 372 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:09,599 Speaker 1: lot of days and I will want to invest in that. Yeah, 373 00:19:09,609 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 1: I I really see like some of my friends, they 374 00:19:13,050 --> 00:19:13,770 Speaker 1: hate to go 375 00:19:13,852 --> 00:19:17,081 Speaker 1: if I very squeezy noisy air con not working the 376 00:19:17,092 --> 00:19:20,011 Speaker 1: lights is giving them hey day, they just not in 377 00:19:20,021 --> 00:19:22,791 Speaker 1: the right space to go leave properly. Then they go 378 00:19:22,802 --> 00:19:25,102 Speaker 1: back when they did drunk or dead tired, then that's 379 00:19:25,112 --> 00:19:30,381 Speaker 1: quite unhealthy. It's not quality this atomic habits. Literally, this 380 00:19:30,391 --> 00:19:33,832 Speaker 1: is like the change environment good for you 381 00:19:34,161 --> 00:19:37,062 Speaker 2: because when I was renovating my place. So initially we 382 00:19:37,071 --> 00:19:40,251 Speaker 2: wanted to spend X amount then to get what we 383 00:19:40,261 --> 00:19:40,911 Speaker 2: really wanted, 384 00:19:41,193 --> 00:19:44,802 Speaker 2: they need to spend one amount. So then the trade 385 00:19:44,813 --> 00:19:47,634 Speaker 2: off was that OK? And the that year we were 386 00:19:47,644 --> 00:19:49,734 Speaker 2: also looking to get a car so that I prioritize 387 00:19:49,963 --> 00:19:52,412 Speaker 2: like do I want to spend X amount and get 388 00:19:52,423 --> 00:19:54,072 Speaker 2: a car or I spend one amount? I get the 389 00:19:54,083 --> 00:19:57,284 Speaker 2: home that I want to prioritize the home? So we 390 00:19:57,292 --> 00:20:00,004 Speaker 1: forsake the secret of a good marriage is you want 391 00:20:00,013 --> 00:20:02,923 Speaker 1: to go home? I feel like right, I mean, I feel, 392 00:20:02,933 --> 00:20:06,453 Speaker 1: I feel that's one thing you're excited to go home 393 00:20:06,463 --> 00:20:08,453 Speaker 1: if you make the whole house, not, 394 00:20:08,916 --> 00:20:11,625 Speaker 1: not appetizing to go back then is, is a problem. 395 00:20:11,885 --> 00:20:16,235 Speaker 1: That's true. But then now things are so expensive inflation. 396 00:20:16,244 --> 00:20:19,706 Speaker 1: I mean, like young couples can barely afford a home, 397 00:20:19,715 --> 00:20:23,515 Speaker 1: like even the down payment. So what would you say 398 00:20:23,605 --> 00:20:26,556 Speaker 1: when to prioritize your spending on? But you don't even 399 00:20:26,566 --> 00:20:29,305 Speaker 1: know where to start. You don't know what to prioritize 400 00:20:29,316 --> 00:20:31,515 Speaker 1: and where to put your money. How to put your money? 401 00:20:31,526 --> 00:20:34,145 Speaker 1: What can come later? What should come now? Ok, let's 402 00:20:34,156 --> 00:20:35,715 Speaker 1: say you are you are my customer. 403 00:20:36,157 --> 00:20:38,427 Speaker 1: How I make your money is like for example, I 404 00:20:38,436 --> 00:20:40,897 Speaker 1: bring you to go look at house. Then you say 405 00:20:40,907 --> 00:20:43,047 Speaker 1: you like this, you like this right? Then I will 406 00:20:43,057 --> 00:20:47,437 Speaker 1: make the order for you. Then I tell you is $2000. 407 00:20:47,588 --> 00:20:50,797 Speaker 1: But actually the invoice that come to me is 1200. Correct? 408 00:20:50,807 --> 00:20:54,498 Speaker 1: So what happened is through many, many places they mark up, 409 00:20:54,508 --> 00:20:57,507 Speaker 1: then it becomes expensive. There are some places there are 410 00:20:57,517 --> 00:21:00,368 Speaker 1: some vendors that encourage transparent pricing, which means you go 411 00:21:00,378 --> 00:21:03,037 Speaker 1: to website. You can see ID won't like this too much, right? 412 00:21:03,219 --> 00:21:06,579 Speaker 1: Let's say you choose my, you go choose and buy 413 00:21:06,589 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 1: the house yourself, then you pass it to them. Then 414 00:21:08,810 --> 00:21:11,530 Speaker 1: they will feel like well near one. So I think 415 00:21:11,540 --> 00:21:14,349 Speaker 1: you must strike a balance right? Then what I will 416 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:17,290 Speaker 1: say for actually carpentry like my new house, I insisted 417 00:21:17,300 --> 00:21:20,180 Speaker 1: I want to have very, very minimal carpentry because carpentry 418 00:21:20,189 --> 00:21:21,550 Speaker 1: is the only thing that next time you want to 419 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:23,310 Speaker 1: move house or what you can bring, you just stuck 420 00:21:23,319 --> 00:21:25,739 Speaker 1: there forever. Oh yeah. So to give you an example 421 00:21:25,750 --> 00:21:28,429 Speaker 1: like my my new house, right? The sofa, I bought 422 00:21:28,439 --> 00:21:30,439 Speaker 1: a $15,000 but I ok. 423 00:21:30,561 --> 00:21:33,901 Speaker 1: But I ok. No, you know it was but I 424 00:21:33,911 --> 00:21:36,121 Speaker 1: bought it because I know I can bring I can 425 00:21:36,131 --> 00:21:38,160 Speaker 1: bring next time I go move house. I can, I 426 00:21:38,171 --> 00:21:39,130 Speaker 1: can put it in my office. I can 427 00:21:39,432 --> 00:21:40,442 Speaker 2: 1 $15,000 428 00:21:44,121 --> 00:21:47,371 Speaker 1: Kings living so far is a Australian brand. A lot 429 00:21:47,501 --> 00:21:49,432 Speaker 1: function to have but I just pretty and comfortable 430 00:21:49,842 --> 00:21:50,771 Speaker 2: to do the video for 431 00:21:51,561 --> 00:21:55,880 Speaker 1: he had. Yeah. Happy get I think at the end. Yeah. Correct. 432 00:21:55,891 --> 00:21:57,781 Speaker 1: So I will say you save on 433 00:21:58,089 --> 00:22:02,129 Speaker 1: you save or carpentry some vendors OK? That you think 434 00:22:02,140 --> 00:22:05,489 Speaker 1: you can then go on. Well, but you have to 435 00:22:05,500 --> 00:22:08,169 Speaker 1: let your idea and so be reasonable in some sense, 436 00:22:08,719 --> 00:22:11,069 Speaker 1: I have no idea. This is just from what I 437 00:22:11,079 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 1: observed how I think you can 438 00:22:13,010 --> 00:22:15,430 Speaker 2: save money. But now there are some younger 439 00:22:15,555 --> 00:22:18,204 Speaker 2: like more modern ideas. What they're doing is they charge 440 00:22:18,214 --> 00:22:22,055 Speaker 2: you a fixed design consultancy fee. So then after that, 441 00:22:22,064 --> 00:22:24,554 Speaker 2: like they don't care where you get your stuff from. 442 00:22:24,574 --> 00:22:26,964 Speaker 2: If you get from them and they help you to 443 00:22:26,974 --> 00:22:29,314 Speaker 2: place the order, then they will just tell you, ok, 444 00:22:29,324 --> 00:22:32,314 Speaker 2: then there will be an admin and processing fee, which 445 00:22:32,324 --> 00:22:32,834 Speaker 2: I think 446 00:22:33,099 --> 00:22:37,829 Speaker 2: is good because I think generally like people want that transparency. So, yeah, 447 00:22:38,050 --> 00:22:40,339 Speaker 1: do you think that people should get an ID or 448 00:22:40,349 --> 00:22:42,780 Speaker 1: they can die all the way? Like the whole process? 449 00:22:42,790 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 1: I really think first time you should, I think it's 450 00:22:44,810 --> 00:22:47,579 Speaker 1: not about the designing or what is the whole coordinations 451 00:22:47,589 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 1: damn complex. So imagine 452 00:22:49,834 --> 00:22:53,344 Speaker 1: and your renovation renovating a place and you don't have 453 00:22:53,354 --> 00:22:55,974 Speaker 1: an ID, right? All the suppliers, the workers are, they 454 00:22:55,984 --> 00:22:58,974 Speaker 1: will call you. You can't coordinate and then I say 455 00:22:58,984 --> 00:23:00,805 Speaker 1: I cannot make it today. So I have to come 456 00:23:00,814 --> 00:23:04,114 Speaker 1: tomorrow but then tomorrow got the painter come how you 457 00:23:04,125 --> 00:23:06,334 Speaker 1: clash this? Then you have to reschedule and everything is 458 00:23:06,849 --> 00:23:09,589 Speaker 1: a nightmare. It's a lot of mental load, like kind 459 00:23:09,599 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 1: of like planning a wedding. Like if you are working 460 00:23:12,569 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 1: while planning a wedding, then there's too much on your plate, 461 00:23:15,770 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 1: too much going on and to be fed for in 462 00:23:19,369 --> 00:23:23,369 Speaker 1: overseas like coordinator, project manager and interior design nurse are 463 00:23:23,380 --> 00:23:25,750 Speaker 1: three different roles in Singapore. 464 00:23:26,530 --> 00:23:29,739 Speaker 1: Consumers are expecting them to do all three roles for 465 00:23:29,750 --> 00:23:32,729 Speaker 1: the price of half. I have a friend, close friend 466 00:23:32,739 --> 00:23:35,479 Speaker 1: that is a contractor. Then from a contractor's point of 467 00:23:35,489 --> 00:23:37,839 Speaker 1: view is like F you get ID, like don't need 468 00:23:37,849 --> 00:23:38,579 Speaker 1: to get ID. 469 00:23:38,609 --> 00:23:40,219 Speaker 2: I think it also depends what you want to get 470 00:23:40,229 --> 00:23:42,989 Speaker 2: out of your renovation. So like the people who say 471 00:23:43,329 --> 00:23:45,709 Speaker 2: just go direct to a contractor, you don't need an ID, 472 00:23:45,719 --> 00:23:50,030 Speaker 2: then you will get a cookie cutter house unless you 473 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:54,099 Speaker 2: really are inherently like I'm side with design. So if 474 00:23:54,109 --> 00:23:56,669 Speaker 2: you're comfortable with just having like a, I'm fine with 475 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,229 Speaker 2: my carpentry, my kitchen cabinet, look the same as everybody 476 00:23:59,239 --> 00:23:59,909 Speaker 2: else's one, 477 00:24:00,250 --> 00:24:02,819 Speaker 2: then that's fine. You go direct to your contractor, then 478 00:24:02,829 --> 00:24:05,208 Speaker 2: all you have to do is like big towels, pick lemonade, 479 00:24:05,219 --> 00:24:05,229 Speaker 2: I 480 00:24:05,239 --> 00:24:07,469 Speaker 1: think especially as a first time owner you don't think 481 00:24:07,479 --> 00:24:09,949 Speaker 1: about little things like designing your kitchen. What looks good 482 00:24:09,959 --> 00:24:12,199 Speaker 1: and what's practical, like your salt is all the way 483 00:24:12,209 --> 00:24:14,099 Speaker 1: there because it looks good. But as you're cooking, you 484 00:24:14,109 --> 00:24:15,869 Speaker 1: have to walk all the way there, then it might 485 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:17,948 Speaker 1: deter you from wanting to cook in the future. Or 486 00:24:17,959 --> 00:24:19,910 Speaker 1: your experience at home is just, like, not nice. 487 00:24:20,260 --> 00:24:22,630 Speaker 1: Yeah. A good idea is supposed to solve your problems. 488 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,270 Speaker 1: Or you are a pet owner, you work from home, 489 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:28,310 Speaker 1: how they, how they make the space for you that's 490 00:24:28,319 --> 00:24:32,550 Speaker 1: most best suited for you for you guys, right? Since 491 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:34,500 Speaker 1: all of you have a partner, how do you all 492 00:24:34,510 --> 00:24:39,489 Speaker 1: manage different preferences from all the couples that I work with? Right? 493 00:24:40,140 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 1: The guy have no power. The girl makes the decision, 494 00:24:47,109 --> 00:24:50,819 Speaker 2: right? She, she's very understanding but the compromise, you must 495 00:24:50,829 --> 00:24:53,449 Speaker 2: speak your battles, right? So there are things that obviously 496 00:24:53,459 --> 00:24:55,688 Speaker 2: you feel strongly, more strongly about. If you can tell 497 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:57,910 Speaker 2: someone feels more strongly about something, then you give in. 498 00:24:57,920 --> 00:24:59,270 Speaker 2: If I had in my way 499 00:24:59,364 --> 00:25:02,435 Speaker 2: house would be like monochrome. But then like her style 500 00:25:02,444 --> 00:25:06,324 Speaker 2: was very like the Scandinavian Moji kind. So 501 00:25:06,344 --> 00:25:07,864 Speaker 1: in the end, you did compromise 502 00:25:08,364 --> 00:25:10,454 Speaker 2: and compromise is not monochrome. 503 00:25:11,814 --> 00:25:15,304 Speaker 1: The same thing I like wood. I like wood and 504 00:25:15,314 --> 00:25:20,113 Speaker 1: nature elements. My girlfriend like modern. So we compromise, we 505 00:25:20,125 --> 00:25:20,704 Speaker 1: go in modern, 506 00:25:23,459 --> 00:25:28,339 Speaker 1: we compromise in the middle of her side. So it's 507 00:25:28,349 --> 00:25:32,409 Speaker 1: the $15,000. I say I can get sponsors then she said, 508 00:25:32,420 --> 00:25:35,849 Speaker 1: but she really like this $15,000. So we compromise and 509 00:25:35,859 --> 00:25:36,979 Speaker 1: we got the $15,000 510 00:25:40,219 --> 00:25:43,550 Speaker 1: compromise. I like that. He still causes a compromise. Trained 511 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:47,569 Speaker 1: very well. Now next time Touchwood, Touchwood got Saga. At 512 00:25:47,650 --> 00:25:49,939 Speaker 1: least you cry on a $15,000 card. Oh 513 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:52,910 Speaker 2: my God. Overlooking your 270 degree 514 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:56,859 Speaker 1: for me. I don't know. Have you heard this term? Right. 515 00:25:56,869 --> 00:25:59,140 Speaker 1: Like you need to turn the volume down in the car, 516 00:25:59,150 --> 00:26:01,680 Speaker 1: then you can drive properly because you can see properly, right? 517 00:26:01,719 --> 00:26:04,439 Speaker 1: So at home, right, when I to find something and 518 00:26:04,449 --> 00:26:06,719 Speaker 1: hear the TV, properly, the lights, I need to turn 519 00:26:06,729 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 1: all the lights on, but my husband don't like light 520 00:26:09,569 --> 00:26:13,020 Speaker 1: at all. He can operate in full darkness. Ok. So 521 00:26:13,030 --> 00:26:15,369 Speaker 1: when I turn on like one small side room, like 522 00:26:15,380 --> 00:26:17,530 Speaker 1: he's right. He's really like this. He's like, 523 00:26:17,692 --> 00:26:21,531 Speaker 1: I'm like this so cornea, ok or not. So when 524 00:26:21,541 --> 00:26:23,911 Speaker 1: he's sleeping and in the morning and you get ready, 525 00:26:23,921 --> 00:26:26,171 Speaker 1: I need to see everything clearly, right? I just take 526 00:26:26,182 --> 00:26:28,732 Speaker 1: the blanket. I just love him all that on the line. 527 00:26:29,131 --> 00:26:30,661 Speaker 1: I'm like, sorry, home 528 00:26:30,671 --> 00:26:32,651 Speaker 2: renovation. How yeah, if in the future, when you 529 00:26:32,661 --> 00:26:35,182 Speaker 1: move to in the future, when we move, I think 530 00:26:35,192 --> 00:26:40,832 Speaker 1: he will compromise the same way Ryan does. I like that. Ok. No, 531 00:26:41,124 --> 00:26:44,343 Speaker 1: to be fair. I design quite nicely. So I think 532 00:26:44,354 --> 00:26:47,134 Speaker 1: he trusts and we have similar taste, but I also 533 00:26:47,144 --> 00:26:50,263 Speaker 1: do I want him to have his own man cave far, 534 00:26:50,273 --> 00:26:53,163 Speaker 1: far away so he can game and shout like outside 535 00:26:53,173 --> 00:26:56,784 Speaker 1: of my hearing like distance. OK. But moving away from 536 00:26:56,963 --> 00:27:01,062 Speaker 1: like just Renault and designing right? Tips for couples that 537 00:27:01,073 --> 00:27:03,494 Speaker 1: really don't see eye to eye in terms of the style. 538 00:27:03,504 --> 00:27:04,374 Speaker 1: I think it's silly though. 539 00:27:04,556 --> 00:27:06,696 Speaker 1: Argue over a home renovation. It's such a happy and 540 00:27:06,705 --> 00:27:09,336 Speaker 1: exciting thing because I also want to live happily with her. 541 00:27:09,536 --> 00:27:12,755 Speaker 1: So I rather you don't need to argue over this. 542 00:27:12,796 --> 00:27:15,546 Speaker 1: Nothing as long it looks nice, right? She also wanted 543 00:27:15,556 --> 00:27:18,234 Speaker 1: to look nice, right? But not everyone will have this 544 00:27:18,244 --> 00:27:20,734 Speaker 1: perspective and this is not even wife and this girlfriend. 545 00:27:21,375 --> 00:27:21,515 Speaker 1: So 546 00:27:23,234 --> 00:27:27,255 Speaker 2: I do see that amongst my friends, a lot of 547 00:27:27,265 --> 00:27:27,845 Speaker 2: the 548 00:27:28,260 --> 00:27:31,119 Speaker 2: the dudes are more like whatever they 549 00:27:31,180 --> 00:27:33,540 Speaker 1: got no pressure. We lost the will to fight. 550 00:27:35,569 --> 00:27:41,780 Speaker 2: I I I'm an outlier. I I not clear about like, why, why? 551 00:27:41,790 --> 00:27:44,479 Speaker 2: And then she quite chill as long as it looks nice. 552 00:27:45,439 --> 00:27:47,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, but if both very strong personality, then you will 553 00:27:47,969 --> 00:27:49,359 Speaker 1: lead to a lot of Yeah. 554 00:27:49,369 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 2: So if that's the case, I feel like then you 555 00:27:51,530 --> 00:27:53,719 Speaker 2: need to like look at who you switch space more. 556 00:27:53,729 --> 00:27:56,250 Speaker 2: So like if both of you all feel very strongly 557 00:27:56,260 --> 00:27:59,149 Speaker 2: about the kitchen, right? But only one person is the 558 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:00,709 Speaker 2: one that's going to be doing most of the cooking, 559 00:28:00,770 --> 00:28:01,079 Speaker 2: then 560 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,400 Speaker 2: that person should have more say in terms of like 561 00:28:03,819 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 2: the layout, the functionality actually going back to the ID 562 00:28:08,510 --> 00:28:11,359 Speaker 2: sort of watch outs, right? Just now we mentioned like, 563 00:28:11,369 --> 00:28:14,219 Speaker 2: cost was one how they earn and like how to 564 00:28:14,229 --> 00:28:16,400 Speaker 2: work with the ID in terms of cost. But then 565 00:28:16,410 --> 00:28:20,550 Speaker 2: what are other like sort of ID nightmares that people 566 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:21,859 Speaker 2: have things like timelines 567 00:28:21,869 --> 00:28:25,319 Speaker 1: very similar to a hair salon, if this hair salon 568 00:28:25,329 --> 00:28:26,819 Speaker 1: is very famous, right? 569 00:28:27,239 --> 00:28:29,979 Speaker 1: It doesn't mean all the sties is right for you, 570 00:28:29,989 --> 00:28:33,459 Speaker 1: You must find somebody that you can communicate very well, 571 00:28:33,579 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 1: understand what you want. And I think above all, the 572 00:28:36,770 --> 00:28:39,619 Speaker 1: most important thing is responsive will actually reply you not 573 00:28:39,630 --> 00:28:42,339 Speaker 1: like 68 days later than reply you one text say, 574 00:28:42,349 --> 00:28:45,119 Speaker 1: oh I'm not around or that like leave you hanging. 575 00:28:45,270 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 1: I think you go for like the lawyers. Doctors are 576 00:28:48,930 --> 00:28:50,650 Speaker 1: all right. Somebody that understand and communicate. 577 00:28:51,261 --> 00:28:53,621 Speaker 1: Oh my God. It's like finding a therapist. Yeah, it's 578 00:28:53,631 --> 00:28:56,121 Speaker 1: not so much of the best therapist, the best lawyer 579 00:28:56,531 --> 00:28:58,521 Speaker 1: you need to vibe. And I feel like there are 580 00:28:58,531 --> 00:29:00,482 Speaker 1: some people who can be very good at their job. 581 00:29:00,491 --> 00:29:01,852 Speaker 1: But if their goal is not to get you the 582 00:29:01,862 --> 00:29:04,352 Speaker 1: best house, they're not the best for you. Like when 583 00:29:04,362 --> 00:29:07,161 Speaker 1: we were shopping for toilet things, you know the matte black. 584 00:29:07,171 --> 00:29:08,932 Speaker 1: Very nice. But then they'll tell you the water stain 585 00:29:08,942 --> 00:29:11,712 Speaker 1: very obvious or they tell you things if you wearing 586 00:29:11,732 --> 00:29:13,911 Speaker 1: it was scratched. Yeah. So things like that when they 587 00:29:13,921 --> 00:29:14,052 Speaker 1: told 588 00:29:14,264 --> 00:29:16,254 Speaker 1: we were like, oh we are so grateful that you 589 00:29:16,264 --> 00:29:18,904 Speaker 1: are thinking for us that way. And even though they 590 00:29:18,913 --> 00:29:21,244 Speaker 1: might have earned a bigger cut from that, they're like, 591 00:29:21,254 --> 00:29:24,104 Speaker 1: I'm just telling you like, letting you know, even choosing tiles, 592 00:29:24,114 --> 00:29:28,264 Speaker 1: choosing like gro colors, they factor these things in. Then 593 00:29:28,274 --> 00:29:31,633 Speaker 1: you feel like, oh, this person is working like with me, 594 00:29:32,443 --> 00:29:34,984 Speaker 2: actually, it's quite interesting because I met a few ideas 595 00:29:34,994 --> 00:29:37,473 Speaker 2: before I settle on my idea and I love my idea. 596 00:29:37,625 --> 00:29:40,926 Speaker 2: It's great. The other ideas I met were I felt 597 00:29:40,936 --> 00:29:43,645 Speaker 2: like they were good in that they were really servicing me. 598 00:29:43,656 --> 00:29:45,745 Speaker 2: Like I gave a brief and then they really were like, 599 00:29:45,845 --> 00:29:48,156 Speaker 2: they try to hear everything on the brief. But the 600 00:29:48,166 --> 00:29:50,225 Speaker 2: reason why I picked my idea, right was that she 601 00:29:50,235 --> 00:29:52,086 Speaker 2: was like, if I suggest something, then should be like 602 00:29:52,095 --> 00:29:52,965 Speaker 2: them ugly. 603 00:29:53,765 --> 00:29:56,416 Speaker 1: The one that I like, you just 604 00:29:56,715 --> 00:29:59,095 Speaker 2: tell me, I don't want a yes man. So she 605 00:29:59,105 --> 00:30:01,005 Speaker 2: would really challenge me and then she really like 606 00:30:01,339 --> 00:30:03,859 Speaker 2: puts in a lot of effort rather than just since 607 00:30:03,869 --> 00:30:06,180 Speaker 2: the client got the idea already. I just execute. 608 00:30:06,359 --> 00:30:09,849 Speaker 1: I have never seen a perfect renovation, that's for sure. Ok. 609 00:30:09,859 --> 00:30:14,689 Speaker 1: I also have never seen a timeline that was fulfilled correctly. 610 00:30:14,969 --> 00:30:18,719 Speaker 1: I was met on time. There's so many moving parts 611 00:30:18,729 --> 00:30:21,189 Speaker 1: in the renovation. There's vendors, there supplies, there's so many 612 00:30:21,199 --> 00:30:24,349 Speaker 1: people involved in it, right? There's decisions. So if you 613 00:30:24,359 --> 00:30:25,569 Speaker 1: reply late, who's voice, 614 00:30:25,667 --> 00:30:29,647 Speaker 1: if you reply late, sometimes customers, but they don't see, 615 00:30:29,677 --> 00:30:32,047 Speaker 1: they put it all on the ID. So I feel 616 00:30:32,057 --> 00:30:34,228 Speaker 1: like as consumers, we also had to be a little 617 00:30:34,238 --> 00:30:37,047 Speaker 1: bit understanding that the timeline that they want to give 618 00:30:37,057 --> 00:30:39,447 Speaker 1: you but not all the time we can meet. And 619 00:30:39,458 --> 00:30:41,128 Speaker 1: I have never seen it on time. What is the 620 00:30:41,137 --> 00:30:46,328 Speaker 1: average timeline while my talent HDB seven months? Because because COVID, 621 00:30:46,647 --> 00:30:49,287 Speaker 1: so they only allow two people to seven months is long, 622 00:30:49,488 --> 00:30:49,838 Speaker 1: long 623 00:30:50,026 --> 00:30:55,426 Speaker 1: for HDB. But average, I think 34 months, honestly. Ok, Ryan, 624 00:30:55,436 --> 00:30:58,046 Speaker 1: for new homeowners who are just starting out on their 625 00:30:58,056 --> 00:31:00,485 Speaker 1: Renault journey, what advice do you have for them? For me? 626 00:31:00,495 --> 00:31:02,576 Speaker 1: I at least this is my steps. First day I 627 00:31:02,586 --> 00:31:04,556 Speaker 1: go Pinterest. I think that's a very basic. You at 628 00:31:04,566 --> 00:31:06,605 Speaker 1: least I see what you like. What you don't like. 629 00:31:06,615 --> 00:31:08,635 Speaker 1: Do you create a mood board? Right? You will see 630 00:31:08,645 --> 00:31:11,615 Speaker 1: some recurring patterns. So when you know what you want, 631 00:31:11,625 --> 00:31:13,566 Speaker 1: what you don't want, you will give you a better idea. 632 00:31:13,576 --> 00:31:13,995 Speaker 1: Was it? 633 00:31:14,473 --> 00:31:17,004 Speaker 1: What is the direction you're going for the second? You 634 00:31:17,014 --> 00:31:19,404 Speaker 1: must look at your floor plan. Ok. Your floor plan 635 00:31:19,413 --> 00:31:22,364 Speaker 1: very important. Then go to this website called Homes by me. 636 00:31:22,524 --> 00:31:25,134 Speaker 1: It's not sponsor of what is an international site. You 637 00:31:25,144 --> 00:31:27,384 Speaker 1: can upload your whole floor plan there and you can 638 00:31:27,394 --> 00:31:30,404 Speaker 1: start bill, then you can build walls and all that. 639 00:31:30,463 --> 00:31:34,284 Speaker 1: So it's free, it's free. So when you make your layout, right, 640 00:31:34,933 --> 00:31:37,854 Speaker 1: you must ask yourself first Right. What do you always 641 00:31:37,864 --> 00:31:38,644 Speaker 1: do at home? 642 00:31:38,741 --> 00:31:40,761 Speaker 1: Do you cook a lot? Do you watch T VA lot? 643 00:31:40,771 --> 00:31:42,482 Speaker 1: Do you eat a lot? Do you host a lot 644 00:31:42,491 --> 00:31:46,141 Speaker 1: then in the level, in the priority of your importance, right? 645 00:31:46,352 --> 00:31:49,371 Speaker 1: You cater the space, right? So like for me, I'm 646 00:31:49,381 --> 00:31:51,572 Speaker 1: a big movie, but I like to watch Netflix. Otherwise 647 00:31:51,802 --> 00:31:54,952 Speaker 1: I want a very big living room sitting area, watch 648 00:31:54,962 --> 00:31:57,521 Speaker 1: TV sound system on it. So I will p a 649 00:31:57,531 --> 00:31:59,781 Speaker 1: lot of space there. You prioritize like that, then you 650 00:31:59,791 --> 00:32:03,001 Speaker 1: will have idea on your priority of space once you're done, right? 651 00:32:03,469 --> 00:32:06,469 Speaker 1: Then you go for ID, you don't waste my money. 652 00:32:06,479 --> 00:32:08,930 Speaker 1: So you're just planning the space layout, but then the 653 00:32:08,939 --> 00:32:11,890 Speaker 1: details are meant for the ID to. So OK, so 654 00:32:11,900 --> 00:32:14,569 Speaker 1: now you got your space, you can know what you want, 655 00:32:14,579 --> 00:32:16,849 Speaker 1: you talk to your ID, right? They they will know 656 00:32:16,859 --> 00:32:19,810 Speaker 1: that you, you already done your research, you already know 657 00:32:19,819 --> 00:32:22,180 Speaker 1: your lifestyle is going to be like, right? Then you 658 00:32:22,189 --> 00:32:24,119 Speaker 1: can ask them, do you have a better suggestion? 659 00:32:24,270 --> 00:32:27,329 Speaker 1: Then what I think is because Harman is a professional one. 660 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,650 Speaker 1: So then maybe you say actually if you like, right, 661 00:32:30,750 --> 00:32:32,569 Speaker 1: you spend so much time in your dining area, right? 662 00:32:32,579 --> 00:32:34,550 Speaker 1: Instead of putting your dining table here, why don't you 663 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,109 Speaker 1: put at the corner there where it has windows, maybe 664 00:32:37,119 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 1: something like that, something that you never thought of it. 665 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,359 Speaker 1: So I think that's what a good idea will do that. 666 00:32:42,420 --> 00:32:44,770 Speaker 1: But then you have to figure out your flow. 667 00:32:45,349 --> 00:32:51,390 Speaker 1: So like in Tchy, go go grab your breakfast, wear 668 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,979 Speaker 1: your shoes and go out is one direction instead of 669 00:32:53,989 --> 00:32:57,089 Speaker 1: like come back bounce, go look at the mirror, come down, 670 00:32:57,150 --> 00:32:59,589 Speaker 1: take the drink, go take your socks and it's like 671 00:32:59,729 --> 00:33:03,329 Speaker 1: this will create frustration every morning. That's why I 672 00:33:03,339 --> 00:33:05,510 Speaker 2: think the space planning is very important because when you 673 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,550 Speaker 2: look at your floor plan, right? You cannot really visualize. 674 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:08,969 Speaker 2: So 675 00:33:09,630 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 2: the common mistake is that you want to feed everything 676 00:33:12,290 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 2: inside and then you realize that you don't have space 677 00:33:14,689 --> 00:33:17,579 Speaker 2: for like all these different things. Actually, I 678 00:33:17,589 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 1: saw on Tik Tok that people always say that you 679 00:33:19,010 --> 00:33:22,010 Speaker 1: should grow with your home. Like don't buy everything just 680 00:33:22,020 --> 00:33:25,010 Speaker 1: to meet the first day of moving in slowly add 681 00:33:25,020 --> 00:33:28,010 Speaker 1: like little trinkets and like they call pieces, then you start, 682 00:33:28,229 --> 00:33:31,530 Speaker 1: I mean, building your house along the way, it 683 00:33:31,689 --> 00:33:32,900 Speaker 2: feels very like sterile. 684 00:33:35,130 --> 00:33:37,270 Speaker 2: So thank you for joining us on this episode of 685 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,290 Speaker 2: the hot pot. Let us know down in the comments 686 00:33:39,300 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 2: below as well, what your dream home looks like and 687 00:33:42,770 --> 00:33:46,209 Speaker 2: don't forget to listen to us on Apple podcasts, Spotify 688 00:33:46,219 --> 00:33:48,130 Speaker 2: and me listen as well and subscribe 689 00:33:48,140 --> 00:33:50,369 Speaker 1: to our channel if you haven't already. Yes. And thank 690 00:33:50,380 --> 00:33:53,910 Speaker 1: you so much Ryan for joining us, your insights. 691 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:57,949 Speaker 2: Thank you and we will see you on the next episode. Bye. 692 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:00,839 Speaker 2: I quite a lot of shit. For my house. Also 693 00:34:01,079 --> 00:34:05,869 Speaker 2: li how to stay in this kind of house. I stay, 694 00:34:06,089 --> 00:34:06,329 Speaker 2: you stay 695 00:34:08,790 --> 00:34:13,969 Speaker 1: someone I read the comments. Are they come and say 696 00:34:13,979 --> 00:34:16,959 Speaker 1: they say that right? Two person need to, you can 697 00:34:18,409 --> 00:34:19,409 Speaker 1: you want you go to?