1 00:00:00,009 --> 00:00:02,279 Speaker 1: This is AC N A podcast. 2 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:15,029 Speaker 2: Water. Some call it Liquid Gold. It's the planet's most 3 00:00:15,039 --> 00:00:18,349 Speaker 2: precious resource and it's easy to take for granted when 4 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:20,879 Speaker 2: it's available for many of us at the turn of 5 00:00:20,889 --> 00:00:23,939 Speaker 2: a tap. But for some that luxury is hard to 6 00:00:23,950 --> 00:00:24,569 Speaker 2: come by. 7 00:00:26,530 --> 00:00:29,979 Speaker 2: South Korea is the 10th largest economy in the world 8 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:34,379 Speaker 2: and unbelievably for one million people there finding water has 9 00:00:34,389 --> 00:00:37,560 Speaker 2: become a struggle. How did one of the richest countries 10 00:00:37,569 --> 00:00:40,380 Speaker 2: in the world get to this point? I'm your host, 11 00:00:40,389 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 2: Teresa Tang. In this episode of C N A correspondent, 12 00:00:43,409 --> 00:00:46,740 Speaker 2: we talk to about whether things are going to get 13 00:00:46,750 --> 00:00:49,840 Speaker 2: worse before they get better and what can be done 14 00:00:49,848 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 2: to save this essential element. 15 00:00:56,610 --> 00:01:00,709 Speaker 2: Hi. Hi, Teresa. So I moved to Singapore from Canada 16 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 2: about six years ago. And one thing I was really 17 00:01:03,569 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 2: thankful for was the fact that you can drink the 18 00:01:05,690 --> 00:01:06,739 Speaker 2: tap water here 19 00:01:07,010 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 2: because I know clean water from the faucet is not 20 00:01:09,809 --> 00:01:12,819 Speaker 2: a privilege that a lot of the planet enjoys. I 21 00:01:12,830 --> 00:01:15,690 Speaker 2: want you to take us to Chola Province. Why is 22 00:01:15,699 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 2: there a water crisis there? Well, first of all, this 23 00:01:18,650 --> 00:01:22,110 Speaker 2: Chola province is this province, way down in the south 24 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:25,620 Speaker 2: part of South Korea. And the reason is really simple, 25 00:01:25,629 --> 00:01:28,980 Speaker 2: there's just simply no rain here in South Korea these days. 26 00:01:28,989 --> 00:01:31,500 Speaker 2: You know, we do get a few days of drizzle 27 00:01:31,510 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 2: here and there. But apart from that, 28 00:01:32,842 --> 00:01:35,911 Speaker 2: we haven't really had much rain here. And so for 29 00:01:35,921 --> 00:01:39,132 Speaker 2: the story, I traveled down to the Chala province and 30 00:01:39,141 --> 00:01:42,601 Speaker 2: even in this main city of Guangzhou, there were concerns 31 00:01:42,611 --> 00:01:45,092 Speaker 2: of water. And you were able to see this plaque, 32 00:01:45,101 --> 00:01:48,732 Speaker 2: cars and banners telling people to try and save water. 33 00:01:48,751 --> 00:01:51,851 Speaker 2: And you know, the dams over there in Hangzhou, they 34 00:01:51,861 --> 00:01:54,671 Speaker 2: were drying up. The water level is way below what 35 00:01:54,681 --> 00:01:57,052 Speaker 2: they were in the past and what is needed to 36 00:01:57,061 --> 00:01:58,592 Speaker 2: give to for the residents there 37 00:01:58,674 --> 00:02:01,954 Speaker 2: to spy on. There's this place called Tong Dam there 38 00:02:01,963 --> 00:02:04,823 Speaker 2: too where, you know, I went to visit and it 39 00:02:04,833 --> 00:02:07,113 Speaker 2: didn't seem at all like a dam and it was 40 00:02:07,124 --> 00:02:09,383 Speaker 2: just like as if I was in a desert. Oh 41 00:02:09,393 --> 00:02:12,593 Speaker 2: my gosh, it was like really dry and it wasn't 42 00:02:12,604 --> 00:02:15,354 Speaker 2: just even even the word dried. Yes, I think the 43 00:02:15,363 --> 00:02:19,843 Speaker 2: word a desert would describe this place much better. And apparently, 44 00:02:19,854 --> 00:02:22,702 Speaker 2: you know, even last year, the situation here was bad 45 00:02:22,714 --> 00:02:24,423 Speaker 2: because there's only about 800 46 00:02:24,505 --> 00:02:29,216 Speaker 2: millimeters of rain, which apparently was only about 60% of 47 00:02:29,225 --> 00:02:31,865 Speaker 2: what they got the year before that. And so this 48 00:02:31,876 --> 00:02:35,175 Speaker 2: is an issue that's been ongoing here in Korea. And 49 00:02:35,186 --> 00:02:37,395 Speaker 2: this year many of the officials were saying that they 50 00:02:37,406 --> 00:02:40,025 Speaker 2: don't think they'll even get last year's amount. And so 51 00:02:40,035 --> 00:02:42,755 Speaker 2: this is a big concern here in South Korea right now. Yeah, 52 00:02:42,766 --> 00:02:45,576 Speaker 2: those half filled dams in your story. I saw the pictures. 53 00:02:45,585 --> 00:02:47,776 Speaker 2: It's very disturbing because it gives you a sense of 54 00:02:47,785 --> 00:02:50,255 Speaker 2: just how much water they're supposed to be. 55 00:02:50,619 --> 00:02:54,029 Speaker 2: Ok. So what does this crisis look like for people there? 56 00:02:54,038 --> 00:02:56,770 Speaker 2: I know you spoke to some who are directly affected 57 00:02:56,779 --> 00:03:00,350 Speaker 2: by this water emergency. Can they even believe South Korea 58 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:02,679 Speaker 2: is facing a crisis like this? Given it's one of 59 00:03:02,690 --> 00:03:05,250 Speaker 2: the richest nations in Asia. Well, you know, I think 60 00:03:05,258 --> 00:03:08,389 Speaker 2: apart from what those people in province, think when I 61 00:03:08,399 --> 00:03:11,050 Speaker 2: started doing this research, it was really hard for me 62 00:03:11,059 --> 00:03:13,589 Speaker 2: to believe that this was happening here in South Korea. 63 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:15,008 Speaker 2: And this was not where in another 64 00:03:15,181 --> 00:03:18,093 Speaker 2: country, you know that we see in the news and 65 00:03:18,102 --> 00:03:20,893 Speaker 2: so doing this story and learning about this was really 66 00:03:20,901 --> 00:03:25,352 Speaker 2: fascinating for me too. But also even today this afternoon, 67 00:03:25,363 --> 00:03:27,752 Speaker 2: I was talking to people here in the Central Seoul 68 00:03:27,763 --> 00:03:31,253 Speaker 2: about this and they have no idea what's happening down 69 00:03:31,263 --> 00:03:34,152 Speaker 2: in the South in Chaa Province. The people apart from 70 00:03:34,162 --> 00:03:37,302 Speaker 2: those in Chaa Province have no idea that this country 71 00:03:37,313 --> 00:03:39,652 Speaker 2: has this water crisis. And so that 72 00:03:39,746 --> 00:03:42,835 Speaker 2: it's very surprising too that the central government has not 73 00:03:42,845 --> 00:03:45,725 Speaker 2: really told or told many of the people here in 74 00:03:45,735 --> 00:03:49,035 Speaker 2: Central Seoul and the local media hasn't really touched on that. 75 00:03:49,046 --> 00:03:50,826 Speaker 2: They would once in a while. But I don't think 76 00:03:50,835 --> 00:03:55,785 Speaker 2: the people really realizes the seriousness of this issue. But definitely, 77 00:03:55,796 --> 00:03:58,636 Speaker 2: you know, there's people living that Chala Province and even 78 00:03:58,645 --> 00:04:01,326 Speaker 2: in that Kangxi city alone, they tell me that the 79 00:04:01,335 --> 00:04:05,695 Speaker 2: situation is very real. It's hard for me to believe 80 00:04:05,705 --> 00:04:07,395 Speaker 2: that there is a water shortage. 81 00:04:07,830 --> 00:04:10,940 Speaker 2: I receive text messages every day that ask residents of 82 00:04:11,039 --> 00:04:15,479 Speaker 2: Guangzhou to cooperate in saving water. We cannot simply ignore 83 00:04:15,490 --> 00:04:21,169 Speaker 2: these messages. Even if it's uncomfortable, we must endure it. 84 00:04:21,399 --> 00:04:23,910 Speaker 2: What else can I do when it's not raining? This 85 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:26,459 Speaker 2: is how we have to live. I put water in 86 00:04:26,470 --> 00:04:29,149 Speaker 2: a plastic bottle to use in the bathroom, do the 87 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:32,130 Speaker 2: laundry all at once and turn on water little by 88 00:04:32,140 --> 00:04:33,380 Speaker 2: little when I need it. 89 00:04:33,970 --> 00:04:37,459 Speaker 2: Given the situation, I think it does offer an opportunity 90 00:04:37,470 --> 00:04:40,609 Speaker 2: for people to consider how to conserve water. Maybe not 91 00:04:40,619 --> 00:04:43,859 Speaker 2: be so wasteful. And I feel like for the older 92 00:04:43,869 --> 00:04:46,779 Speaker 2: generation Y Silk, I know for my grandparents, for example, 93 00:04:46,890 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 2: they didn't flush the toilet if they didn't have to. 94 00:04:48,928 --> 00:04:50,910 Speaker 2: If you know what I mean? If it's yellow, let 95 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 2: it mellow if it's brown, flush it down. 96 00:04:52,910 --> 00:04:55,339 Speaker 2: But you really forget how important water is to our 97 00:04:55,350 --> 00:04:58,799 Speaker 2: daily lives and livelihoods actually. Can you talk to us 98 00:04:58,809 --> 00:05:03,470 Speaker 2: about how this shortage is impacting business in that region? Well, 99 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:06,220 Speaker 2: it is having a big impact especially on the tourism 100 00:05:06,230 --> 00:05:09,209 Speaker 2: and with COVID pandemic now gone on. Many of them 101 00:05:09,220 --> 00:05:11,058 Speaker 2: were hoping that the tourists will be able to come 102 00:05:11,070 --> 00:05:13,808 Speaker 2: back and their livelihoods will be able to pick up. 103 00:05:13,820 --> 00:05:16,730 Speaker 2: But parts of the Chala province here in Korea are 104 00:05:16,738 --> 00:05:19,738 Speaker 2: known for their beautiful water, their pristine 105 00:05:19,832 --> 00:05:21,842 Speaker 2: watering fact. And you know, they have a lot of 106 00:05:21,851 --> 00:05:25,221 Speaker 2: the touristy sites. There, there was this place called One 107 00:05:25,231 --> 00:05:27,802 Speaker 2: Do where we went to and one of the restaurant 108 00:05:27,812 --> 00:05:30,462 Speaker 2: owner there was telling me how sometimes she would have 109 00:05:30,471 --> 00:05:33,842 Speaker 2: to turn away the tourists or customers coming in because 110 00:05:33,851 --> 00:05:36,721 Speaker 2: she simply did not have enough water to cook or 111 00:05:36,731 --> 00:05:39,881 Speaker 2: clean her kitchen or do anything inside that restaurant. And so, 112 00:05:39,992 --> 00:05:42,022 Speaker 2: you know, they're not able to take in customers a 113 00:05:42,032 --> 00:05:44,801 Speaker 2: lot of the inns or the accommodation places. I mean, 114 00:05:44,812 --> 00:05:46,661 Speaker 2: especially those you see, they simply 115 00:05:46,753 --> 00:05:49,522 Speaker 2: and not taking customers because this is a place where 116 00:05:49,553 --> 00:05:53,584 Speaker 2: they only get water supply two times in one week. 117 00:05:53,813 --> 00:05:57,063 Speaker 2: And so they have to save the water during those 118 00:05:57,074 --> 00:05:59,553 Speaker 2: two days that they do get water. And during the 119 00:05:59,563 --> 00:06:01,834 Speaker 2: rest of that week, they have to live off that 120 00:06:01,843 --> 00:06:05,363 Speaker 2: water that they have saved. So it's hard to believe 121 00:06:05,373 --> 00:06:07,803 Speaker 2: that this is actually happening here in Korea. But that 122 00:06:07,813 --> 00:06:12,584 Speaker 2: is the case in 2023 2 and in South Korea. But, 123 00:06:12,593 --> 00:06:13,584 Speaker 2: and so, you know, 124 00:06:13,675 --> 00:06:17,605 Speaker 2: it is hurting their livelihood and tourists, a lot of 125 00:06:17,615 --> 00:06:20,256 Speaker 2: the tourists go there not knowing that this is happening. 126 00:06:20,436 --> 00:06:22,876 Speaker 2: And the owners were saying that they do have the 127 00:06:22,885 --> 00:06:25,484 Speaker 2: same water and they just hope that the customers use 128 00:06:25,496 --> 00:06:28,545 Speaker 2: it up and then they all leave before the next 129 00:06:28,555 --> 00:06:30,525 Speaker 2: time they can fill it up because they don't want 130 00:06:30,536 --> 00:06:32,466 Speaker 2: a lot of Koreans to know about this because they 131 00:06:32,476 --> 00:06:34,825 Speaker 2: still do want the customers to come back. And so 132 00:06:34,835 --> 00:06:38,585 Speaker 2: it's tough for them. This area. Wando is also very famous, 133 00:06:38,596 --> 00:06:40,276 Speaker 2: very seaweed and abalone, 134 00:06:40,597 --> 00:06:43,837 Speaker 2: but talking to them apparently right now, it doesn't have 135 00:06:43,847 --> 00:06:47,327 Speaker 2: a direct impact yet. But they are very worried because 136 00:06:47,338 --> 00:06:50,447 Speaker 2: even the Abalones need to live off the water, the 137 00:06:50,458 --> 00:06:53,048 Speaker 2: natural resources that come out of it. And they're just 138 00:06:53,058 --> 00:06:55,488 Speaker 2: worried too. And like for the seaweed, you would have 139 00:06:55,497 --> 00:06:57,488 Speaker 2: to wash the salt off it to be able to 140 00:06:57,497 --> 00:07:00,808 Speaker 2: export it overseas, but they didn't unable to do that 141 00:07:00,817 --> 00:07:03,388 Speaker 2: because there's just simply no water and they have to conserve. So, 142 00:07:03,558 --> 00:07:06,697 Speaker 2: of course, the big question is why, right? Why is 143 00:07:06,708 --> 00:07:07,428 Speaker 2: this happening 144 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:10,149 Speaker 2: coming up? We're going to talk about climate change and 145 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:13,209 Speaker 2: its role in all of this more with after this? 146 00:07:19,079 --> 00:07:21,850 Speaker 2: Hi, my name is Julie Yu and I'm the host 147 00:07:21,859 --> 00:07:25,540 Speaker 2: of the climate conversations. Each week, I speak to guests 148 00:07:25,549 --> 00:07:28,690 Speaker 2: who give us tips on how we can protect the earth. 149 00:07:28,700 --> 00:07:32,279 Speaker 2: Every once in a while. We also have interesting stories 150 00:07:32,290 --> 00:07:35,929 Speaker 2: like how Singapore's first Tesla owner prompted billionaire 151 00:07:36,029 --> 00:07:38,890 Speaker 2: Elon Musk to reach out to Prime Minister Lee Slo 152 00:07:39,290 --> 00:07:43,029 Speaker 2: or a chef who makes the juiciest burgers from only 153 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:47,079 Speaker 2: plant based ingredients. For more stories like these, look for 154 00:07:47,089 --> 00:07:49,790 Speaker 2: the climate, conversations on our C N A and me 155 00:07:49,829 --> 00:07:52,839 Speaker 2: listen apps or wherever you get your podcasts. 156 00:07:58,579 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 2: When I first heard about your story Y s and 157 00:08:00,730 --> 00:08:03,209 Speaker 2: how you were covering a water shortage in South Korea 158 00:08:03,220 --> 00:08:05,529 Speaker 2: of all places. I have to admit the first two 159 00:08:05,540 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 2: words that came into my mind were climate change, right? 160 00:08:08,660 --> 00:08:11,190 Speaker 2: How strong is the correlation in this case? What did 161 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 2: experts tell you? Oh, very close. I think, you know, anybody, 162 00:08:14,769 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 2: everybody that I spoke to did say that it was 163 00:08:16,890 --> 00:08:21,170 Speaker 2: all related to climate change and global warming too. It 164 00:08:21,179 --> 00:08:24,329 Speaker 2: is not just a South Korean issue but it is 165 00:08:24,500 --> 00:08:27,269 Speaker 2: thing that the whole world, this global other countries all 166 00:08:27,279 --> 00:08:29,929 Speaker 2: face these days. But you know, but the funny thing is, 167 00:08:29,940 --> 00:08:33,090 Speaker 2: is because this climate change and global warming, you know, 168 00:08:33,099 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 2: right now we're talking about not having enough rain and 169 00:08:36,210 --> 00:08:39,429 Speaker 2: how there's this drought. But that's only during certain months, 170 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:41,069 Speaker 2: you know, when the summer hits us and when it 171 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:44,270 Speaker 2: becomes July, August, I'll probably be here talking to you 172 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:47,770 Speaker 2: about the flooding situation here in Korea because we'll have floods. 173 00:08:47,780 --> 00:08:50,070 Speaker 2: And so, you know, it's either whether you have too 174 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:50,849 Speaker 2: much rain, 175 00:08:51,090 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 2: you don't have enough rain. But right now, a lot 176 00:08:53,650 --> 00:08:55,780 Speaker 2: of experts are saying that it's not, they're just not 177 00:08:55,789 --> 00:08:58,340 Speaker 2: getting the adequate amount as they did in the past. 178 00:08:58,500 --> 00:09:02,260 Speaker 2: And even the weather forecasts are very different from what 179 00:09:02,270 --> 00:09:04,150 Speaker 2: it was in the past. They're not right. A lot 180 00:09:04,159 --> 00:09:06,729 Speaker 2: of time. They're wrong because it's just so hard to 181 00:09:06,739 --> 00:09:09,239 Speaker 2: predict what the weather conditions are going to be here 182 00:09:09,250 --> 00:09:12,579 Speaker 2: these days. So you talk about just waiting simply for 183 00:09:12,590 --> 00:09:15,239 Speaker 2: the rainy season to begin to maybe help the situation 184 00:09:15,250 --> 00:09:17,098 Speaker 2: a bit, but that's not really going to solve the 185 00:09:17,109 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 2: bigger problem here. So, what sort of longer time 186 00:09:19,710 --> 00:09:23,309 Speaker 2: term solutions does the government propose? Well, that seems like 187 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:25,478 Speaker 2: what the South Korean government did for the last few 188 00:09:25,489 --> 00:09:28,780 Speaker 2: years because this is a problem that really, I don't 189 00:09:28,789 --> 00:09:30,848 Speaker 2: think hit South Korea just this year. It has to 190 00:09:30,859 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 2: be something that has to be piling up for the 191 00:09:32,409 --> 00:09:35,619 Speaker 2: last few years. And except the South Korean government didn't 192 00:09:35,630 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 2: really see the seriousness of this. And I think the 193 00:09:37,770 --> 00:09:40,239 Speaker 2: government thought that oh, if we get rain, hopefully in 194 00:09:40,250 --> 00:09:42,709 Speaker 2: a month or two, this will all go away. But 195 00:09:42,719 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 2: they realized that this is a serious issue and that's 196 00:09:45,289 --> 00:09:48,098 Speaker 2: why the South Korean government decided to 197 00:09:48,330 --> 00:09:52,559 Speaker 2: invest in about $8 million into a vessel that can 198 00:09:52,570 --> 00:09:56,059 Speaker 2: desalinate the water as it moves around from one island 199 00:09:56,070 --> 00:09:59,809 Speaker 2: to another. And so this vessel and it's called the Dreams. 200 00:09:59,820 --> 00:10:03,239 Speaker 2: It is able to convert the seawater into fresh water 201 00:10:03,250 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 2: for people to be able to drink. And I tried 202 00:10:06,090 --> 00:10:07,919 Speaker 2: it and you know, it tastes no different from any 203 00:10:07,929 --> 00:10:10,699 Speaker 2: other water. And So they're hoping that with this, they 204 00:10:10,710 --> 00:10:13,718 Speaker 2: will be able to move around to different islands where 205 00:10:13,729 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 2: they're not getting enough water and be able to give 206 00:10:16,950 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 2: them that water they need at least for now. And 207 00:10:20,010 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 2: that is the world's first mobile seawater desalination plant. Right. Yes, 208 00:10:24,210 --> 00:10:26,549 Speaker 2: it is. That's what the South Korean government says. And 209 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:29,380 Speaker 2: that's why they think that this vessel will be needed, 210 00:10:29,390 --> 00:10:32,039 Speaker 2: not just here in South Korea, but around the world. 211 00:10:32,049 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 2: And so they are hoping that they will be able 212 00:10:34,090 --> 00:10:37,098 Speaker 2: to export this technology to other countries and help other 213 00:10:37,109 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 2: countries also facing water shortage. Wow, that's a hopeful outlook. 214 00:10:42,650 --> 00:10:45,500 Speaker 2: Hopefully that this technology can be shared to other countries 215 00:10:45,820 --> 00:10:49,059 Speaker 2: in the region and beyond while we may not all 216 00:10:49,070 --> 00:10:51,189 Speaker 2: be facing an acute water shortage, this is really a 217 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:54,609 Speaker 2: great reminder yo to take care of water because it 218 00:10:54,619 --> 00:10:58,260 Speaker 2: is finite and it's definitely not guaranteed. Thanks so much. 219 00:10:58,270 --> 00:11:01,059 Speaker 2: Thank you. The TV version of C N A correspondent 220 00:11:01,070 --> 00:11:04,238 Speaker 2: airs on C N A every Wednesday at 9 30 PM. 221 00:11:04,299 --> 00:11:06,530 Speaker 2: Catch up with them any time on C N A 222 00:11:06,539 --> 00:11:10,799 Speaker 2: dot Asia. The team behind this episode is Clara Ong, 223 00:11:10,809 --> 00:11:14,119 Speaker 2: Christina Robert and me, Theresa Tang. Thanks for listening.