S1: The
S2: Mutton Sandwich podcast.
S3: All right. It is season two of the Mutton Sandwich podcast.
S3: So happy to be back. What's a very fun season
S3: one where we actually spoke to a whole bunch of
S3: our famous radio friends?
S2: That's right. But in season two, we, you know, decided
S2: to expand our horizons and talk to the other people
S2: that we know in showbiz that happened to be wireless.
S2: We call them our friends, LA, where they were really
S2: friends and it's up to them. But yeah, we pretend
S2: we're friends and
S3: we love them dropping. So of course, these are our
S3: famous friends who, you know, because of the pandemic as well.
S3: We haven't caught up with them in a long time.
S3: You know what lets everybody eavesdrop on our catch up?
S3: And of course, for the very first episode, we had
S3: to bring in a very big star.
S2: Absolutely. One of the biggest stars on TV at the moment,
S2: and hopefully for a long time to come. He is Mr.
S2: Desmond Don. Hello, Desmond.
S1: Hello, everyone. Welcome to the new season and a good-looking one.
S2: So good looking because you are here. I know.
S1: Hey.
S3: I don't think we had a chance to say this yet.
S3: Congratulations on the Star Awards.
S2: Yeah, man, best
S3: actor and obviously Top 10 as well. How is this
S3: your star? Was it? Was it strange? It was very different.
S3: I was at the airport and you guys were standing
S3: on the runway and tell us all about it.
S1: The other thing is, Star Wars is pretty, pretty different
S1: and strange in some ways. And I think in some
S1: ways this is like, who would ever think that we
S1: have our Star Wars and Changi Airport? And then I
S1: would be like, Do the recovery act on on the runway?
S1: I mean, I never thought of that. I would never
S1: do something had before in my life so special. And
S1: I think it was more like a comeback for what
S1: as well, because obviously you missed last year and it's
S1: been like two years since we had the ceremony. Have
S1: you ever asked us to please him? I thought it
S1: was very refreshing and quite magical in some moments when
S1: I was sitting on right now pondering Star Wars
S3: and the weird thing, we were talking about it when
S3: it happened as well on air, we were saying that
S3: the funny thing is, if it wasn't for the pandemic,
S3: you could never have done it. Changi Airport Changi Airport
S3: is never so empty that you can just,
S2: yeah, it's usually a very busy place,
S3: but I think up on the tarmac and probably fingers
S3: crossed next year you can't do it either, because by
S3: next year, maybe travel would have opened ready. So this
S3: was the only you could have done that as actually.
S1: But I hope that next year we can start traveling
S1: and not our last. What size and apply anymore?
S2: Yeah, exactly. Right. Yeah, well, all fingers crossed hoping for
S2: that as well. Now it's been a strange year and
S2: a half almost. And I'm sure for you as well.
S2: A lot of things change. So so how has the
S2: pandemic been for you, man? What are the things that
S2: you have to change to, you know, resume some sort
S2: of normalcy?
S1: I don't not mean, to be honest, after two years,
S1: I'm still doing adjustment and I don't really fully understand
S1: this whole thing yet. It was like a pendulum swing.
S1: You know, we start to ease back to a normal
S1: life and then and then you go back a step
S1: and then you kind of go you many more have
S1: can do things that we usually do. So obviously finding
S1: a job that is being quite hard for me, especially
S1: for the workplace, because it's getting the momentum or even
S1: going to the gym, it was like, OK, I'm already
S1: doing all the lifting and I'm back home again and
S1: getting lazy and doing all the drinking. Yeah, yeah, that's true.
S1: That's true.
S3: So for people who don't know and honestly, I don't
S3: know the answer to this as well, how many times
S3: a week does Desmond go to the gym
S1: prior to the pandemic? I hit the gym almost five
S1: times a week and down by ambition that day.
S2: That's what you call dedication. I mean, you're not going
S2: to be the star that you are. There's some things
S2: you have to maintain. I mean, there's there's there is
S2: no surprises there. So from five times to, you know,
S2: hardly any time now during the pandemic and all that.
S2: How do you keep fit, man?
S1: So right now, I kind of just follow the flow
S1: and just enjoy it. And just one day at a time,
S1: not so much to get used to the more.
S2: Right, right? Yeah. No, no, no snacking in between. And,
S2: you know, just to keep yourself healthy, like that's the
S2: least you can do as a promotion.
S1: I'm not sure. I'm not sure about that, and I
S1: think I lost at see life is so unfair.
S3: He just he just said he loves snacking. He loves eating.
S2: He he looks like, Come on.
S3: So unfair.
S2: You know, now, Desmond, obviously, yo yo yo yo. We're very,
S2: very well known as a Channel eight star, in fact,
S2: winning star awards and all that right? But you've you've
S2: also branched out and because you're effectively bilingual, obviously, and
S2: you've branched out to the English drama besides our Court
S2: of law in L.A., you, you, you did a spin
S2: off series, a Derek, which is. Very interesting, because I
S2: remember having a conversation with you a while ago when
S2: when we could actually meet up and all that. And
S2: you said Derek was was one of your favorite things
S2: to do. You, you you love playing that character so much.
S2: Tell us a bit about the character and why you
S2: love it so much.
S1: So they're in could have lost one of my favorite.
S1: Alan grew out of a and he's also one of
S1: the first English I'm going to because my career and
S1: what I really like about it is it's very different
S1: from the the typical roles that I was playing on
S1: the drama during then. So this is the first time
S1: I've played a villain. And then the director gave me
S1: a lot of space to adjust and create and fighting
S1: moments on set to create the psychotic version of myself,
S1: which night Singapore. And boy, it was really fun for
S1: me to play that role. I could just be fully
S1: imaginative and just be the moment. Yeah, yeah. And then
S1: for that role, I was lucky because I really enjoyed
S1: playing it so much that I just didn't correct it
S1: during the production period before season one. Yeah. So I
S1: was playing pretty much like a method acting kind of way,
S1: my hand to it. And then I pretty much needed
S1: character even when I'm home. So I it was quite
S1: a moment for me doing that. It just gave me
S1: a lot of reports and wow. It was quite interesting
S1: with relief, and that is Derek doing the production on
S1: a of two.
S2: Yeah, that sounds amazing, man. And obviously, you know, paid
S2: off because on screen, you you are absolutely psycho, you know,
S2: like
S1: you said, yeah, you
S2: could tell, though, that, you know, you almost couldn't tell
S2: that you were acting, you know.
S3: How did your family react to it, though?
S1: I guess then I just was pretty busy on set
S1: and I didn't socialize them. I didn't see my family
S1: that much. I didn't see my friends at my right,
S1: so they didn't really see the crazy part of me. Yeah.
S2: Wow. You know, and of course, you know, playing a
S2: character like that, you know which which obviously you loved
S2: and enjoyed doing. What are the kind of roles would
S2: you say you would like to try now, now that
S2: you've done this psycho serial killer type?
S1: You know, just before I came on this podcast, I
S1: was just watching the Olympics and every sport we sports,
S1: I was watching.
S3: Oh, wow, diving.
S1: I was watching volleyball, beach volleyball.
S2: Yeah, that's my favorite. You know, we're always
S1: going for this. I decided to change my mind. I'm
S1: playing as a body bowler, so I think I'm trying
S1: to see how you can create. I mean, many,
S3: many years ago when I was a very young boy,
S3: I remember, was it tennis? You won and a couple
S3: of other ladies are kind of the names now. They
S3: they mean a volleyball drama, right? And it did very well.
S1: Exactly. And when I was in secondary school, they had
S1: another body blow. So that helped me to grow up
S1: a lot because he was doing my puberty period. Well, hi,
S1: there you go.
S3: So maybe a drama where you play like an athlete,
S3: you know, trying to represent saying that you don't, you're
S3: going to be off
S2: the yeah, why not? Right? Eventually, you. Wow. OK, wow.
S2: So so now with the acting and winning of the
S2: Star Awards and everything you let, let's let's talk more
S2: about Yo-Yo. Your personal life. Yeah. You know the stuff
S2: that you're willing to reveal to us, obviously. No. Of course.
S2: The other business a Desmond time. You know what? What
S2: kind of business ideas have you had? What kind of
S2: things would you want to go into a
S3: lot of your colleagues and your peers? They they go
S3: into business through
S2: a menu with McDonald's.
S3: Know your name on the McDonald's burger? Yeah. Is that
S3: something you're saying? Yeah, no clearer what the idea of
S3: any any such plans
S1: at the moment, a concrete concrete plan. But I think
S1: deep inside me, I'm I'm adventurous like businessmen, always have
S1: a business ideas, right? And then when I have like,
S1: you know, reference, I usually talk about it. I think
S1: I call. But in one year, it's all about creating
S1: in every cell, but eventually happen. Yeah. But then I
S1: know I do have some ideas, but even my friends
S1: who are come up to me say that, you know, like,
S1: you should have a scientist also other than your acting workshop. Yeah,
S1: for sure. I do have some ideas like I know
S1: my passion and actually, I love animals. Yes, you do
S1: always like this part of me that I want to have,
S1: like a grooming place, come up with a line for
S1: like T-Boz, Pet it and stuff like that. We showed
S1: a lot of fun for animals and then I didn't
S1: do it recently. I'm very much into Austin. In India,
S1: what and my coffee? Oh, sounds nice. OK, OK, so
S1: a few weeks back, I actually attended federal course. Oh, right. Yeah.
S1: So I just find it quite fascinating that, you know,
S1: the the smell smell will actually give us a certain
S1: mood and set us on a certain comfort level. Yeah. No,
S1: I'm actually looking to that as well. I'm not sure
S1: whether I actually do want to be out of it. No,
S1: you know, I think that my happen.
S2: Desmond, you could do a business selling trash bags and
S2: be before 90 days. I'm sure everyone wants to smell
S2: like Desmond Bali. Nine Layla Desmond on perfume that will
S2: be also desperate.
S3: Please, please tell us
S1: about like if you launch and
S3: he launched a pet thing because we're all animal lovers.
S2: Yeah, yeah, exactly what support. Then you have us eating
S2: out of your hand. That's awesome.
S1: Hey, actually
S3: actually share this with me because Desmond, let me go
S3: back to the power. You know one. Do you call
S3: Vernon if you want to do things now in terms
S3: of our personal relations, think you are the U.N. one
S3: and go more way back then?
S2: Well, we we share mutual friends and you know, so
S3: your un un Verlinden, like, how do you know each other?
S3: And like, what was your impression when you first met him?
S1: Yeah, it's interesting. Just like, you know, I listen to
S1: questions almost every morning to you guys and thank you,
S1: you guys. Really funny and full do sometimes. So when
S1: I first met Vernon, I was expecting, you know, just
S1: of this crazy guy, and I didn't find him having
S1: the usual quiet. So he was quite a. And then
S1: and then we started speaking and I realized that, you know,
S1: a different state on Vernon that we listen on the radio.
S1: You know? Yeah.
S2: And I'm glad you like that because I would be
S2: there if I if I was having dinner with Derek,
S2: you know, all the cutlery, you know, like, Hey, I'll
S2: give you my former. So very dangerous.
S3: But you know, that's the one thing that people say
S3: to us more often and not people who meet us
S3: for the first time. It's like, actually, you're quite you're
S3: not very funny. You know, if they have a meal
S3: with us. But we spend so much time every day
S3: on annotating people that if
S2: it's quiet, then
S3: there are times that you just want to, you know,
S3: reserve the energy.
S1: So yeah, I can imagine. And I honestly don't understand
S1: how you guys are so power up early in the
S1: morning because like, I understand you guys have become like
S1: maybe four or five p.m. to start work, you know? Yeah.
S1: And then to crack jokes and keep people and the
S1: team where they are on the way to work or
S1: even when they're home is just amazing work that you
S1: guys doing.
S2: Oh, thanks so much. It's a really nice of you
S2: to see.
S3: That's why they pay us more than they pay you.
S1: Hey, you know,
S3: you're kidding, right? No, I'm kidding. There's no way that's true. Oh, hey. Yes. So,
S3: you know, speaking of speaking of stuff like that, right? Um,
S3: what is your favorite thing about being desperate time about
S3: doing what you do, being as famous and all that
S3: as you are? Like, what is your what is your
S3: favorite thing about about being in this profession?
S1: To be honest, I think it is nicer when I'm
S1: in a locker room.
S2: That's true.
S1: That's true. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I know it's not that
S1: I had until recently because like when I go to
S1: hooker and you can be slightly nicer, then usually they
S1: speak to me. It's not to me when they're picking
S1: my order. And then, like at end this year, I
S1: have to shave my head for a role and I
S1: look completely different, especially with the muscle. And we had
S1: different hair, and all sudden people couldn't recognize me as
S1: much as usual. I know, and because I really like
S1: the way picking my order and you know, I remember
S1: this time when I was doing like a set B
S1: and then a business person, and she gave me the
S1: wrong said, I want it. Yeah, she's like mission creep
S1: up mirror.
S2: Oh, my goodness. Wow.
S1: And I said, You know what? This is what you did.
S1: And yeah, and I'm get me something they do really
S1: like all these years. Welcome.
S2: Welcome to another person's life. That's too funny, man.
S3: That's that is hilarious.
S1: Oh, saying like this, if we say we kind of like,
S1: I really enjoy doing this and bring joy to people
S1: when I meet them, because sometimes when I'm shooting and
S1: see that I really are tired doing this, I doing
S1: the last time. And then when they recognize me, you know,
S1: they smile and have a little bit check in there
S1: and be able to smile. Someone's life is something that
S1: I do enjoy doing after so many years. And it's like,
S2: Oh yeah, that's amazing. And that's why most of us
S2: do what we do, isn't it? It's just making people happy.
S3: No better feeling than someone actually enjoying your work. And,
S3: you know, because as an actor. It's one of the
S3: most challenging things, at least, at least, you know, the
S3: fact is I know that they tell me because you
S3: don't actually get feedback
S2: and you don't see a live audience when you do
S3: that. You don't get feedback about what you do or
S3: whether you're good or not. And two months later, you've
S3: forgotten what what seems you did, what lines you did.
S3: Buy time people see your show, right?
S1: So this is one different thing. And that's the reason
S1: why we enjoying speaking to people at the public places
S1: where they're telling you about their feelings about my rule
S1: or a particular scene or drama. And then you need
S1: a bit of feedback and response that I get on
S1: the street and I can actually bring that energy and
S1: those constructive feedback. So I make sure
S2: that's right is really and you get the real thoughts
S2: and of people who actually watch the show. Yeah, yeah.
S2: So so that's fantastic.
S3: So speaking of shows, what what is the next thing
S3: that people can see you in?
S2: Yeah, what can we catch you with?
S1: So currently, I'm doing a show commissioned by CMT, the
S1: narcotic bureau, and I'm playing as a narcotics officer. Nice.
S1: So this is really interesting because we actually went through
S1: a lot of training. Secrets can be harmful, like the
S1: handcuff handling, weapon handling, how to read it, how it's
S1: done like that. And we actually went for some of
S1: the operations. Oh, you're kidding. Interesting. Yeah. Yeah, we do. Did.
S1: So we actually read it some houses and some hotels
S1: as well. So I'm doing
S2: this. I wonder if the people being really well. Yeah.
S2: This one is Jeanette Dominy. Marijuana was a
S1: real first operation on the first. How did you actually
S1: read it? The guy who was it recognized some of us. Yeah,
S1: the three of actually went in for that operation. Thought
S1: when he was handcuffed, he doesn't look at us smiling.
S1: And that was a little bit creepy.
S2: Yeah, that's right. Oh my goodness. Wow.
S3: That hole in his head is like, shit, Derek is
S3: I'm
S2: is going to give me
S3: that. So do you know when this show comes out
S1: of this show up in November? No, I do not
S1: see that coming up in August, and that show is
S1: called key witness. And there's a show that I actually
S1: shaved my head for. Oh, no particular in
S2: another killer show.
S1: Wow. Yeah. And actually show. I hope you don't get that.
S1: We do have, like many media action scenes, almost every episode,
S1: so I think there's something quite different. My regular 9pm
S1: teenage drama is something that you guys kind of do.
S1: Take it on. Also on you watch.
S3: Very cool. Very cool. That's what I mean. Yeah, exactly
S2: right. Side, we've never seen of you before.
S3: That should that should be fun to watch. Hey, one
S3: more thing to do before we go Desmond now, because
S3: we know it's you off there. You've you've taken time
S3: off you off to talk to us. We're very appreciative
S3: of that. No one zero one one little shtick we
S3: love to do here in the Mud and Sandwich podcast
S3: is that we like to end with our guest being
S3: able to ask us a question. So you have the
S3: time right now to ask us a question. It can
S3: be too violent, it can be digested, it can be
S3: to both up to you any question, and there's no
S3: question there are out of bounds.
S1: OK, OK, so this question is going to the two
S1: of you. Just give me some ideas. Oh, nice. Oh yeah,
S1: we don't know that you get to me. This question
S1: is now The Muppet Show. We'll go into some kind
S1: of show is there are two of you and one
S1: of you was seen as the only cool would it be? Wow.
S2: Wow. What a great question. And the serial killers question? Yeah, exactly.
S2: So one of us is killed off and then, you know,
S2: the other had to continue to show, who would it be?
S2: I would say that you answer it. Yeah, no. I
S2: would say that Justin will continue the show. Oh yeah. Why?
S2: Because he he can't do anything else. He's quite useless.
S2: He has. He has no other skill except pressing buttons,
S2: talking and eating. So. Yeah. You know, whereas I could
S2: probably go off and do quite a few other things.
S3: I've been doing this this job since I was 16
S3: years old. You can't blame me. I have no other skill. Oh, right.
S3: I really don't. My my answer is actually the other
S3: way around. You know, and obviously, I'm the nicer person
S3: here because I will volunteer myself to be killed and
S3: you to continue. Oh, wow. Not because of the show.
S3: Oh man. Not because of the show. OK, Jeff, just
S3: one appeal factor. I have no children, so there's nobody
S3: to miss me
S2: rise or no responsibility.
S3: Like you have two kids. So don't get killed, Matt.
S3: And don't don't leave the
S2: dog, OK?
S3: You need to bring my godson to be a good man.
S2: Sure, I will try. I will try. No, no. If
S2: I can kill you and then, then I'll get Desmond
S2: to cause you me, that'll be perfect.
S1: All right. Wow.
S3: Never expect that question like that.
S2: Well done, man was requested.
S1: How about a few things you guys haven't asked a
S1: second question? Oh yeah. Go ahead, shoot. Can I get
S1: the recipe for a fucking movie? I love it.
S2: Oh man, you through nicely.
S3: We appreciated this one, but it's a hot A.. Yeah.
S2: Yeah. Because if doesn't want to open his own restaurant.
S2: This restaurant is dead.
S3: I'm sorry. No, but we'll tell you the truth, Desmond.
S3: We don't even have the recipe because the recipe is
S3: a it's a real secret locked inside the head of
S3: our head chef,
S1: and only he knows how to get your hands as
S1: well as you become.
S2: No, no, no. But but then again, no, you, you
S2: you you're best known for for that picture of you
S2: wearing a leather apron. You just show up at our
S2: restaurant and I'm sure the chef. Will stand aside, they
S2: don't want to mess with a serial killer and you
S2: will know everything.
S1: Oh my God. Sounds like a plan, whether you go
S1: to task.
S2: Is it really Choshu or is it something else?
S3: Oh my god. Thanks for the kind words about cooking, though.
S3: We appreciate it. Thank you for the nice. Thank you
S3: for your support. Any time you want, bro, just let
S3: us know what we'll send some to you. Hey, thank you.
S3: That's been for for for spending the time with us today.
S3: Please go enjoy you there.
S1: Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for having me as well.
S1: You guys stay safe. Hands off.
S2: You too, man. They care, buddy. You too.
S1: Cheers.