1 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:05,678 Speaker 1: Hi, TT Zero and I'm Jermaine and welcome back to 2 00:00:05,690 --> 00:00:07,550 Speaker 1: another episode of Clarity Hush. 3 00:00:09,810 --> 00:00:13,810 Speaker 1: Today we have on set with us. Only Singapore's most 4 00:00:13,819 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: beautiful talents. 5 00:00:18,809 --> 00:00:19,110 Speaker 1: Let's 6 00:00:22,670 --> 00:00:22,780 Speaker 1: see. 7 00:00:23,069 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 2: I have red hair now. 8 00:00:24,370 --> 00:00:27,850 Speaker 1: It's very nice, by the way. Very nice. What you 9 00:00:27,860 --> 00:00:29,879 Speaker 1: tell our viewers and our listeners more about yourself. 10 00:00:30,239 --> 00:00:30,479 Speaker 2: I feel 11 00:00:30,489 --> 00:00:34,348 Speaker 2: like everything about my life is online. So yeah, just 12 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:37,580 Speaker 2: like chronically online person that makes content. 13 00:00:39,180 --> 00:00:41,098 Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like today will be quite interesting because 14 00:00:41,250 --> 00:00:42,520 Speaker 1: I don't know why, 15 00:00:42,970 --> 00:00:44,970 Speaker 2: like a very like interesting character because 16 00:00:44,979 --> 00:00:46,880 Speaker 1: you have no filter like a little bit, you know, 17 00:00:46,889 --> 00:00:47,869 Speaker 1: I really don't have a 18 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:48,819 Speaker 1: filter like that. 19 00:00:49,130 --> 00:00:50,729 Speaker 2: I love it. A social anxiety. 20 00:00:50,740 --> 00:00:50,869 Speaker 1: Ok. 21 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:52,909 Speaker 1: So today, no matter what questions we ask you, you 22 00:00:52,918 --> 00:00:53,900 Speaker 1: got to answer them. Ok. 23 00:00:53,909 --> 00:00:54,740 Speaker 2: Ok. 24 00:00:57,479 --> 00:01:00,930 Speaker 1: OK. We know that. Of course you are recently. Can 25 00:01:00,939 --> 00:01:02,099 Speaker 1: I use the word recently? Yeah. 26 00:01:02,110 --> 00:01:03,209 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. Recently 27 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:03,939 Speaker 1: in Love. 28 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:06,150 Speaker 2: We love, love. 29 00:01:08,190 --> 00:01:11,870 Speaker 1: And your partner is not situated in Singapore. No, 30 00:01:11,879 --> 00:01:12,139 Speaker 2: he 31 00:01:12,150 --> 00:01:14,069 Speaker 2: lives in Australia. 32 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:14,669 Speaker 1: Wow. 33 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 2: What's his name? Can we know his name? His name 34 00:01:16,489 --> 00:01:17,459 Speaker 2: is Leon. Leon. 35 00:01:20,970 --> 00:01:24,639 Speaker 2: He's a huffy like me. So he was like born 36 00:01:24,650 --> 00:01:27,789 Speaker 2: and raised in Jakarta and Brisbane. Yeah. 37 00:01:27,849 --> 00:01:30,399 Speaker 1: Ok. So, before we hop into the topic of LDR, 38 00:01:30,900 --> 00:01:33,389 Speaker 1: what do you girls think about the idea of soul mates? 39 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 1: I mean, there's billions of people out there. Right. It's 40 00:01:36,449 --> 00:01:38,639 Speaker 1: so crazy because everyone's like, oh, yeah, we just date 41 00:01:38,650 --> 00:01:40,739 Speaker 1: in Singapore, like we're on hinge and here and there. 42 00:01:40,870 --> 00:01:42,789 Speaker 1: But it's like, what if my soul mate is like 43 00:01:42,879 --> 00:01:46,779 Speaker 1: a billionaire from Dubai? Correct? And I in Dubai and 44 00:01:46,790 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 1: I never know him or like Bahamas, do you think 45 00:01:49,410 --> 00:01:50,010 Speaker 1: that's possible? 46 00:01:50,019 --> 00:01:52,449 Speaker 2: People have this idea that like soul mates are like 47 00:01:52,459 --> 00:01:56,169 Speaker 2: instant connections? But I feel like the one that is 48 00:01:56,180 --> 00:01:58,970 Speaker 2: destined for you comes in many forms, I think and 49 00:01:58,980 --> 00:02:01,260 Speaker 2: like different periods of your life as well. 50 00:02:01,349 --> 00:02:03,339 Speaker 1: I love how you put it. Oh, thanks. 51 00:02:03,900 --> 00:02:06,250 Speaker 1: I feel like the idea of soul mates 52 00:02:07,050 --> 00:02:09,139 Speaker 1: can be a bit like overly polished 53 00:02:09,149 --> 00:02:10,470 Speaker 1: or delusional 54 00:02:11,210 --> 00:02:15,050 Speaker 1: fans fantasize the way movies put it like novels, write it. 55 00:02:15,070 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: Sometimes I feel like the one for you is based 56 00:02:18,008 --> 00:02:18,770 Speaker 1: on hard work. 57 00:02:18,779 --> 00:02:21,369 Speaker 2: I think it's like the grounding of the relationship that's 58 00:02:21,380 --> 00:02:24,509 Speaker 2: like the important bit. But like I feel like the 59 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:28,220 Speaker 2: love and the bond also takes time to nurture and grow. 60 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:31,149 Speaker 1: That being said, if the one for you is situated 61 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:34,220 Speaker 1: in the same place geographically as you, it does take 62 00:02:34,229 --> 00:02:36,210 Speaker 1: away a bit of the challenge if the one for 63 00:02:36,220 --> 00:02:38,169 Speaker 1: you right is halfway across the world, 64 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:40,710 Speaker 2: I mean, it is challenging. It's not, 65 00:02:41,839 --> 00:02:44,229 Speaker 1: I used to think that there are 7 billion people 66 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:46,508 Speaker 1: in the world who was always like, what makes you 67 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:48,740 Speaker 1: think that persons like right next to, you know, I 68 00:02:48,750 --> 00:02:52,329 Speaker 1: always had this idea that like someone in some far 69 00:02:52,339 --> 00:02:55,020 Speaker 1: away place I've never heard of is your soul mate? 70 00:02:55,740 --> 00:02:59,089 Speaker 2: Maybe you just want to leave. That's why like a 71 00:03:00,008 --> 00:03:02,570 Speaker 2: subconscious part of you. Like, oh, maybe I just want 72 00:03:02,580 --> 00:03:04,479 Speaker 2: to like, move out for a while. You never know. 73 00:03:04,490 --> 00:03:08,639 Speaker 1: Have you guys ever been in LD? Likes is like, ok, 74 00:03:08,649 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 1: because I went overseas to do a six month internship 75 00:03:11,449 --> 00:03:13,470 Speaker 1: while I was in a relationship. So I guess that 76 00:03:13,550 --> 00:03:18,660 Speaker 1: it was ok. It was horrible. Do not recommend 77 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:20,410 Speaker 2: you are quite young as 78 00:03:20,419 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 1: well. I was very young. I was very insecure. I 79 00:03:23,330 --> 00:03:26,029 Speaker 1: was like, I would go, I would drive myself up 80 00:03:26,038 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 1: the wall thinking like, what was he doing? Who is 81 00:03:29,089 --> 00:03:31,190 Speaker 1: he talking to? Who is he going out with? 82 00:03:31,610 --> 00:03:32,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was just, 83 00:03:32,490 --> 00:03:32,500 Speaker 2: oh, 84 00:03:32,508 --> 00:03:34,410 Speaker 2: that sounds hellish actually. It was 85 00:03:34,419 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 1: really bad and I was very young. So maybe now 86 00:03:36,889 --> 00:03:39,820 Speaker 1: I might deal with it better. But yeah. Well, I 87 00:03:39,830 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: haven't been in an LDR myself but I don't think 88 00:03:42,889 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: it's a situation that 89 00:03:44,369 --> 00:03:46,789 Speaker 1: I would be very comfortable in. I mean, of course, 90 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:49,500 Speaker 1: if you full trust in your partner, that's great. But 91 00:03:49,509 --> 00:03:51,809 Speaker 1: for me, I'm like a physical touch kind of person. 92 00:03:51,820 --> 00:03:54,509 Speaker 1: I know I am cuddles. Yeah. I don't think I 93 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:55,339 Speaker 1: can live without it. 94 00:03:55,350 --> 00:03:58,589 Speaker 2: That's why like, I actually had like a revelation yesterday. 95 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:00,130 Speaker 2: So I was like, all this podcast came in so 96 00:04:00,139 --> 00:04:03,479 Speaker 2: timely because I felt like we've been doing LDR for 97 00:04:03,490 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 2: eight months and we also met abroad. So we never 98 00:04:06,169 --> 00:04:09,220 Speaker 2: actually had like time to spend together, like for a 99 00:04:09,229 --> 00:04:11,149 Speaker 2: long period. So I was thinking maybe I'll spend more 100 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:12,119 Speaker 2: time in Australia, 101 00:04:13,259 --> 00:04:15,210 Speaker 2: but I mean, obviously I'll still be in Singapore, but 102 00:04:15,220 --> 00:04:18,429 Speaker 2: it's just like, invest more into the relationship given that 103 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 2: my job is more flexible as well because he works 104 00:04:20,928 --> 00:04:23,429 Speaker 2: at 9 to 5. Yeah. So everyone's like, oh, why 105 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:26,390 Speaker 2: doesn't he visit? I was like, he can't really visit 106 00:04:26,399 --> 00:04:29,029 Speaker 2: but he will visit when he can. So he visited 107 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:31,779 Speaker 2: in December and it was like, honestly, so like I 108 00:04:31,790 --> 00:04:33,750 Speaker 2: was so happy and I was having so much fun. 109 00:04:34,089 --> 00:04:36,019 Speaker 2: So I was like, ok, maybe it's time for me 110 00:04:36,029 --> 00:04:38,709 Speaker 2: to like, invest a bit more. 111 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:39,109 Speaker 1: When's 112 00:04:39,119 --> 00:04:40,829 Speaker 1: the last time you saw him? Because you said he 113 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:42,109 Speaker 1: visited in December, 114 00:04:42,119 --> 00:04:43,630 Speaker 2: I saw him end of February. 115 00:04:43,940 --> 00:04:48,510 Speaker 1: So it has been a couple of months, three months. 116 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:50,799 Speaker 1: How do you do it? That's 117 00:04:50,809 --> 00:04:51,750 Speaker 1: crazy. 118 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:54,929 Speaker 2: Take it day by day. Like I, when I first started, 119 00:04:54,970 --> 00:04:58,659 Speaker 2: oh my God s sucks. Which it does. Ok. But 120 00:04:58,670 --> 00:05:01,940 Speaker 2: my boyfriend was like, if you keep focusing on it, 121 00:05:01,950 --> 00:05:03,070 Speaker 2: sucking is gonna suck more. 122 00:05:03,984 --> 00:05:09,493 Speaker 2: Yeah. So I just learned to like, rephrase my wording like, ok. Oh, 123 00:05:09,505 --> 00:05:12,415 Speaker 2: it sucks. But at least we have like a beautiful, 124 00:05:12,424 --> 00:05:13,404 Speaker 2: like connection. 125 00:05:14,894 --> 00:05:18,035 Speaker 1: OK. We want to, we want to know the details. OK. 126 00:05:18,265 --> 00:05:21,535 Speaker 1: Where did you met Leon? Ok. How did this relationship start? 127 00:05:21,545 --> 00:05:23,325 Speaker 1: Was like a one night stand or something? 128 00:05:23,334 --> 00:05:26,084 Speaker 2: No, it was actually like I had given up all 129 00:05:26,095 --> 00:05:29,364 Speaker 2: hope on men. Yeah. Basically I was just like, I 130 00:05:29,375 --> 00:05:31,714 Speaker 2: came out of a situation about one month plus I 131 00:05:31,725 --> 00:05:32,135 Speaker 2: was like, 132 00:05:32,428 --> 00:05:35,250 Speaker 2: oh my God, I hate, like, I really dislike men. 133 00:05:35,260 --> 00:05:39,959 Speaker 2: Maybe I'm lesbian. I was, I was so my best friend. 134 00:05:39,970 --> 00:05:42,700 Speaker 2: She was like, oh let's go Bangkok like Ghost Trip. 135 00:05:42,738 --> 00:05:46,368 Speaker 2: And she's also recently single and we were at this bar. 136 00:05:46,380 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 2: So she's more of like a club rat. But I 137 00:05:48,450 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 2: was like, oh can we go to a more like 138 00:05:50,769 --> 00:05:52,659 Speaker 2: chill bar? I just want to like sit down and 139 00:05:52,670 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 2: listen to music and like drink some cocktails. Oh, wow! Ok. 140 00:05:56,220 --> 00:05:57,829 Speaker 2: So we went to this bar and it was like 141 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 2: my favorite bar in Bangkok because it's like very low 142 00:06:00,209 --> 00:06:01,329 Speaker 2: key and like 143 00:06:01,609 --> 00:06:05,890 Speaker 2: the drinks are amazing and the wait staff is very friendly. 144 00:06:05,899 --> 00:06:08,099 Speaker 2: So I went and my girlfriend was like, oh my God, 145 00:06:08,109 --> 00:06:10,269 Speaker 2: this place is like such a vibe then she got horny. 146 00:06:10,970 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 2: So she was like, she was like, hey, that guy 147 00:06:14,769 --> 00:06:17,919 Speaker 2: is so cute. Like at the back it was um 148 00:06:17,928 --> 00:06:21,690 Speaker 2: my boyfriend's friend. So yeah, so she was like, oh, 149 00:06:21,700 --> 00:06:23,339 Speaker 2: should I talk to them? I was like, yeah, babe, 150 00:06:23,350 --> 00:06:25,209 Speaker 2: do your thing. I'm just gonna like sit down like 151 00:06:25,220 --> 00:06:27,910 Speaker 2: observe your food. So she went to the toilet and 152 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:29,350 Speaker 2: then they started talking. 153 00:06:29,859 --> 00:06:32,529 Speaker 2: So they were like chatting and stuff and then we 154 00:06:32,540 --> 00:06:36,040 Speaker 2: parted ways. We were hanging out with our friends from Bangkok. 155 00:06:36,049 --> 00:06:38,149 Speaker 2: So we went to a club and then she was like, 156 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:40,209 Speaker 2: oh should I call the guy out? I was like, yeah, 157 00:06:40,220 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 2: do whatever you want, babe, I'm like chill, I can 158 00:06:42,049 --> 00:06:44,309 Speaker 2: handle myself. So she called the guy out. Then his 159 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 2: friend came which is, 160 00:06:46,140 --> 00:06:48,630 Speaker 2: which is Leon. So Leon was just like seated on 161 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:52,058 Speaker 2: the chair of the club, like the bench. Like he 162 00:06:52,070 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 2: looked very bored. I was like my God, I'm bored too. 163 00:06:55,329 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 2: I was like, let's like, so I went over to, 164 00:06:57,649 --> 00:06:59,829 Speaker 2: I just chat with him just to like talk and 165 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:02,109 Speaker 2: then we really like click in the sense where 166 00:07:02,559 --> 00:07:05,470 Speaker 2: I feel like when I was like dating around like 167 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:07,820 Speaker 2: guys didn't find me funny. They find me very abrasive 168 00:07:07,829 --> 00:07:12,089 Speaker 2: which I can be but he found my abrasiveness funny. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 169 00:07:12,100 --> 00:07:13,630 Speaker 2: So he was like, wow, this is like he told 170 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:15,179 Speaker 2: me a few weeks after that I thought you were 171 00:07:15,190 --> 00:07:15,660 Speaker 2: crazy 172 00:07:17,850 --> 00:07:20,079 Speaker 2: but like he was like, oh but actually I feel 173 00:07:20,089 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 2: like we have good like connection but not in 174 00:07:23,829 --> 00:07:27,630 Speaker 2: very physical sense. Like mentally we click. Yeah. So we 175 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:30,359 Speaker 2: hung out the next day we went out for coffee. 176 00:07:30,369 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 2: So he loves coffee. He's from like lives in Melbourne, right? 177 00:07:33,489 --> 00:07:35,420 Speaker 2: So he brought me to like coffee place and like, 178 00:07:35,429 --> 00:07:38,410 Speaker 2: I love street food. So I brought him around to 179 00:07:38,420 --> 00:07:41,250 Speaker 2: eat porridge and stuff. And we ended up walking through 180 00:07:41,260 --> 00:07:42,529 Speaker 2: like an abandoned town, 181 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 2: like abandoned portion of like Bangkok. It was like covered 182 00:07:46,170 --> 00:07:48,290 Speaker 2: in graffiti. It was so nice. I was like, this 183 00:07:48,299 --> 00:07:50,299 Speaker 2: is like the perfect date. It was like, what is 184 00:07:50,309 --> 00:07:50,630 Speaker 2: going 185 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:51,149 Speaker 2: on. 186 00:07:51,380 --> 00:07:54,109 Speaker 1: So while this was happening, what happened to your horny friend? 187 00:07:54,579 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 1: It was just like end up, you 188 00:07:57,850 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 1: know, 189 00:07:57,899 --> 00:08:00,670 Speaker 2: she didn't bang the guy. Oh, so sad. 190 00:08:00,750 --> 00:08:03,739 Speaker 2: But they went out for like coffee and then she 191 00:08:03,750 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 2: went for her flight because she I stayed on for 192 00:08:06,890 --> 00:08:08,989 Speaker 2: a few more days. Yeah, but she went back home 193 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,149 Speaker 2: so it wasn't meant to be with him. Definitely not 194 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:12,890 Speaker 2: when I saw that she was like, oh I find 195 00:08:12,899 --> 00:08:14,510 Speaker 2: him cute. I was like, really this is so not 196 00:08:14,519 --> 00:08:17,010 Speaker 2: your type. So I felt like she only found that 197 00:08:17,019 --> 00:08:18,529 Speaker 2: found him attractive because like 198 00:08:18,850 --> 00:08:21,149 Speaker 2: it was something to like bring us together if our 199 00:08:21,489 --> 00:08:24,149 Speaker 2: path with the destiny. I 200 00:08:25,140 --> 00:08:28,290 Speaker 1: ok. Then in the next few days in Bangkok, what 201 00:08:28,299 --> 00:08:29,450 Speaker 1: happened to you Leon? 202 00:08:29,459 --> 00:08:29,779 Speaker 2: He 203 00:08:29,790 --> 00:08:32,849 Speaker 2: was actually gonna go close to move his friends. So 204 00:08:32,859 --> 00:08:34,839 Speaker 2: he was like, oh you want to come and then 205 00:08:34,849 --> 00:08:38,849 Speaker 2: I was like, ok, so I went but I didn't 206 00:08:38,859 --> 00:08:41,159 Speaker 2: stay with his friends like he booked a separate place 207 00:08:41,169 --> 00:08:44,179 Speaker 2: for us. So like it was like a long first 208 00:08:44,190 --> 00:08:45,609 Speaker 2: date that lasted for like a week. 209 00:08:45,619 --> 00:08:45,630 Speaker 1: Oh 210 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:45,859 Speaker 2: my 211 00:08:45,869 --> 00:08:46,349 Speaker 1: God. 212 00:08:46,830 --> 00:08:49,549 Speaker 1: It's like holiday, holiday, girlfriend, boyfriend, 213 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:52,140 Speaker 2: holiday, romance. So I didn't think it was that serious 214 00:08:52,150 --> 00:08:56,729 Speaker 2: because like, I wasn't, like, looking for anything serious either. 215 00:08:56,940 --> 00:08:59,969 Speaker 2: So we kept in contact after we went up, we 216 00:08:59,979 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 2: parted ways and he was just very consistent. Like, he 217 00:09:03,289 --> 00:09:05,530 Speaker 2: will speak to me every day, like we will face time. 218 00:09:05,539 --> 00:09:07,900 Speaker 2: You always pick up. So when you're saying about like 219 00:09:07,909 --> 00:09:10,570 Speaker 2: how you felt insecure and stuff, but I never really 220 00:09:10,580 --> 00:09:12,659 Speaker 2: felt that because like, he didn't give you a reason 221 00:09:12,669 --> 00:09:12,978 Speaker 2: to 222 00:09:13,405 --> 00:09:16,325 Speaker 2: same for me. So like both ways, we just like 223 00:09:16,335 --> 00:09:18,465 Speaker 2: met each other at a point where we were both 224 00:09:18,474 --> 00:09:21,034 Speaker 2: like very truthful to each other law. 225 00:09:21,315 --> 00:09:24,145 Speaker 1: So at which point does it become a relationship? Because 226 00:09:24,155 --> 00:09:26,294 Speaker 1: now it still sounds like this is just a situation 227 00:09:26,304 --> 00:09:28,864 Speaker 1: we're dating. We're hanging out from different countries. 228 00:09:29,015 --> 00:09:29,244 Speaker 2: I 229 00:09:29,255 --> 00:09:33,034 Speaker 2: visited him in, after September for a while. So I 230 00:09:33,044 --> 00:09:33,585 Speaker 2: have 231 00:09:33,969 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 2: like a intense work month and then I was go Melbourne. 232 00:09:37,090 --> 00:09:39,549 Speaker 2: So I picked out for like two weeks in Melbourne 233 00:09:39,719 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 2: and I was like, oh actually like, we have a 234 00:09:41,289 --> 00:09:43,189 Speaker 2: lot of things in common because he loves to cook 235 00:09:43,650 --> 00:09:45,940 Speaker 2: and I like to cook. So he will always cook 236 00:09:45,950 --> 00:09:48,150 Speaker 2: for me. And this is like my first time being 237 00:09:48,159 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 2: with a guy that makes me feel like a woman. 238 00:09:53,450 --> 00:09:54,250 Speaker 1: Oh, 239 00:09:54,349 --> 00:09:54,979 Speaker 2: she's in her. 240 00:09:57,210 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 1: No, own it, babe, own it. 241 00:10:02,010 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 1: Oh I'm sure you 242 00:10:03,010 --> 00:10:03,468 Speaker 1: do. 243 00:10:05,309 --> 00:10:08,858 Speaker 2: Yeah. But anyway, that's why I like, it was very special. So, 244 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:11,270 Speaker 2: in December he came down to meet my mom and 245 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:14,109 Speaker 2: my mom was like, oh, I really like him. Yeah. 246 00:10:14,119 --> 00:10:15,699 Speaker 2: And like, for my mom to say that it is 247 00:10:15,710 --> 00:10:18,510 Speaker 2: very rare. She hates all the guys I did for 248 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:21,500 Speaker 2: fair reason because I do date, like, some questionable characters 249 00:10:21,510 --> 00:10:23,390 Speaker 2: for the plot. But, 250 00:10:24,090 --> 00:10:26,409 Speaker 2: but, um, yeah, so she was like, oh I really 251 00:10:26,419 --> 00:10:29,239 Speaker 2: like him. I do see your future with you. So 252 00:10:29,250 --> 00:10:31,179 Speaker 2: with me, for her to say that it was like 253 00:10:31,190 --> 00:10:32,409 Speaker 2: a good approval. 254 00:10:32,549 --> 00:10:34,020 Speaker 1: Yeah. Actually my question 255 00:10:34,030 --> 00:10:37,219 Speaker 1: right is like, you know, if the relationship already started, 256 00:10:37,229 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 1: you're like a year in and then it becomes an LDR. 257 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:41,190 Speaker 1: That's like 258 00:10:41,275 --> 00:10:42,924 Speaker 1: it's easier that we thought of 259 00:10:44,054 --> 00:10:44,635 Speaker 1: something 260 00:10:44,645 --> 00:10:45,405 Speaker 2: I know what you mean 261 00:10:46,085 --> 00:10:48,074 Speaker 1: but from the get go it was earlier. 262 00:10:48,794 --> 00:10:51,375 Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know. I think my destiny was like, 263 00:10:51,755 --> 00:10:54,054 Speaker 2: or like Jesus was like, telling me like this is 264 00:10:54,065 --> 00:10:56,905 Speaker 2: something you need to go through, like learning to like 265 00:10:56,934 --> 00:10:58,494 Speaker 2: be in a relationship but 266 00:10:59,219 --> 00:11:01,559 Speaker 2: being separate and when the time is right, you all 267 00:11:01,570 --> 00:11:03,590 Speaker 2: come together and it will be like my mom told 268 00:11:03,599 --> 00:11:05,699 Speaker 2: me it's like you have to work for something really good. 269 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:07,909 Speaker 2: So I feel like this is like a good process 270 00:11:07,919 --> 00:11:09,250 Speaker 2: for me because I'm learning a lot of things about 271 00:11:09,260 --> 00:11:12,780 Speaker 2: myself also. Like, it's like the positives I would say 272 00:11:12,789 --> 00:11:16,229 Speaker 2: of the LDR. Yeah. Amen. Amen. Yes, 273 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:19,219 Speaker 1: I saw on Insta the other day like you were like, 274 00:11:20,150 --> 00:11:24,348 Speaker 1: I my boyfriend, you dress really nice. But then her 275 00:11:24,359 --> 00:11:27,630 Speaker 1: Instagram story caption was I look really hot but my 276 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:29,690 Speaker 1: boyfriend didn't reply me because he's our friend. So now 277 00:11:29,700 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 1: I'm sad. 278 00:11:31,900 --> 00:11:33,479 Speaker 2: He replied shortly after. 279 00:11:34,289 --> 00:11:36,199 Speaker 1: So I was just being dramatic. Yeah. Yeah, 280 00:11:36,210 --> 00:11:38,289 Speaker 2: I was being dramatic because we had a bit of 281 00:11:38,299 --> 00:11:41,090 Speaker 2: a quarrel before that he was asking me which shoes 282 00:11:41,099 --> 00:11:42,939 Speaker 2: was nice. I was like the other shoe is fucking 283 00:11:42,950 --> 00:11:45,619 Speaker 2: ugly and he was like, why are you so like rude? 284 00:11:45,630 --> 00:11:47,819 Speaker 2: I was like rude man, I think, oh yeah, maybe 285 00:11:47,830 --> 00:11:50,199 Speaker 2: I am rude was saying that you know, sometimes like 286 00:11:50,429 --> 00:11:53,380 Speaker 2: Singaporeans like when we speak, I do like foreigners. They 287 00:11:53,390 --> 00:11:55,809 Speaker 2: always say like we can be quite a harsh, we 288 00:11:55,820 --> 00:11:56,380 Speaker 2: have no bad. 289 00:11:56,599 --> 00:11:57,630 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 290 00:11:57,950 --> 00:12:00,130 Speaker 2: Yeah. So like I was like, wow, fucking this and 291 00:12:00,140 --> 00:12:02,689 Speaker 2: then he was like, excuse me and I was like, 292 00:12:03,010 --> 00:12:04,969 Speaker 2: I was like, oh shit. So then he like a 293 00:12:04,979 --> 00:12:07,919 Speaker 2: bit cold and after that I said sorry and then like, ok, 294 00:12:08,059 --> 00:12:12,330 Speaker 2: he pushed me in my place which I appreciate because 295 00:12:12,340 --> 00:12:14,959 Speaker 2: I feel like when guys tell me I'm like, screw you, 296 00:12:14,969 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 2: you man. But with him, I really do respect his 297 00:12:17,849 --> 00:12:18,099 Speaker 2: word. 298 00:12:18,109 --> 00:12:21,010 Speaker 1: Putting yourself in his shoes, get it. Yeah. 299 00:12:22,330 --> 00:12:25,489 Speaker 1: The fucking ugly shoes. The fucking ugly shoes. 300 00:12:26,700 --> 00:12:29,229 Speaker 2: The shoes were not cute. But anyway, let's 301 00:12:29,309 --> 00:12:29,339 Speaker 1: move 302 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:29,669 Speaker 2: on 303 00:12:30,070 --> 00:12:30,090 Speaker 1: the 304 00:12:30,119 --> 00:12:33,309 Speaker 1: charge of that. But yeah, but, you know, it's usually like, 305 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:37,359 Speaker 1: the ones who are comfortable enough with themselves are the 306 00:12:37,369 --> 00:12:39,429 Speaker 1: ones who don't have to prove anything. You know, they 307 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:40,839 Speaker 1: don't have a lot but 308 00:12:40,890 --> 00:12:45,590 Speaker 2: sexy. He is very, like, reserved in his character and, like, 309 00:12:45,909 --> 00:12:48,169 Speaker 2: I feel like a little girl around him, which I 310 00:12:48,179 --> 00:12:50,219 Speaker 2: think is, like, very cute because I always feel like 311 00:12:50,229 --> 00:12:53,159 Speaker 2: I have to be like a boss. Yeah. I think, 312 00:12:53,169 --> 00:12:56,079 Speaker 2: like single mom and stuff. So like more in our 313 00:12:56,090 --> 00:12:58,799 Speaker 2: like strong move energy. So like with me, I can 314 00:12:58,809 --> 00:13:01,059 Speaker 2: like switch 315 00:13:01,070 --> 00:13:03,358 Speaker 1: off your brain. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Ok. Off the top 316 00:13:03,369 --> 00:13:05,679 Speaker 1: of the head. Can you tell us three good things 317 00:13:05,729 --> 00:13:07,330 Speaker 1: about being in an LD? 318 00:13:07,500 --> 00:13:08,090 Speaker 2: I 319 00:13:08,099 --> 00:13:12,260 Speaker 2: would say like the first thing is, you know, your 320 00:13:12,270 --> 00:13:14,849 Speaker 2: connection is more than something physical. 321 00:13:15,750 --> 00:13:18,200 Speaker 2: So like, ok, in the past, a lot of my 322 00:13:18,210 --> 00:13:22,140 Speaker 2: relationships were very physical, like very hot as all day 323 00:13:22,900 --> 00:13:27,250 Speaker 2: or like the chemistry is like, like crazy. But with 324 00:13:27,260 --> 00:13:29,840 Speaker 2: him it's like the chemistry is good but it's also 325 00:13:29,849 --> 00:13:32,419 Speaker 2: a lot more things that support the relationship is very 326 00:13:32,429 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 2: well rounded. So 327 00:13:33,770 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 1: both physical and emotional chemistry. 328 00:13:35,890 --> 00:13:40,059 Speaker 2: Yeah. Mental chemistry and compatibility. So it's like in the 329 00:13:40,070 --> 00:13:42,969 Speaker 2: past I'll be like, I never like this guy like 330 00:13:42,979 --> 00:13:44,728 Speaker 2: in this area so I wouldn't 331 00:13:45,369 --> 00:13:47,979 Speaker 2: give it my all kind of thing or like, I 332 00:13:47,989 --> 00:13:49,699 Speaker 2: try to give it my all to make up for 333 00:13:49,710 --> 00:13:52,299 Speaker 2: the lack of. But with this one, it is like 334 00:13:52,309 --> 00:13:56,359 Speaker 2: I think it's, like, very mature. Yeah, I guess you 335 00:13:56,369 --> 00:14:00,049 Speaker 2: have more time with yourself. So, like, it can be 336 00:14:00,059 --> 00:14:04,468 Speaker 2: quite lonely. It also helps you stay quite grounded. I said, 337 00:14:04,479 --> 00:14:05,369 Speaker 2: I guess so. Like, 338 00:14:05,719 --> 00:14:08,429 Speaker 2: I learned how to, like, be with myself more and, like, 339 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:10,690 Speaker 2: rely a lot more on my friends so I don't 340 00:14:10,700 --> 00:14:13,440 Speaker 2: lose out on my friendship aspect. I think sometimes in 341 00:14:13,450 --> 00:14:16,250 Speaker 2: relationships you kind of like for your friends, but I'm 342 00:14:16,260 --> 00:14:18,468 Speaker 2: not even closer to like my friends now because of 343 00:14:18,479 --> 00:14:21,340 Speaker 2: the LD. Yeah. My friends love him too. My best 344 00:14:21,349 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 2: friend loves him. The honey girl, the holy girl. 345 00:14:25,919 --> 00:14:30,099 Speaker 2: Yeah. Good to know. Yeah. Yeah. Ok. Um Third thing 346 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:33,849 Speaker 2: I think when you all spend time together, it's like 347 00:14:33,859 --> 00:14:36,659 Speaker 2: you really treasure the memory. So like we are both 348 00:14:36,669 --> 00:14:41,090 Speaker 2: like extremely present. Yeah, I try not to use my 349 00:14:41,099 --> 00:14:43,580 Speaker 2: phone when he works. Like I will do my own 350 00:14:43,590 --> 00:14:46,119 Speaker 2: thing but when his work is over, like we will 351 00:14:46,130 --> 00:14:48,530 Speaker 2: make a conscious effort to like, really spend a lot 352 00:14:48,539 --> 00:14:49,260 Speaker 2: of time together 353 00:14:49,270 --> 00:14:51,659 Speaker 1: because time is so precious. Like you don't have an 354 00:14:51,789 --> 00:14:54,820 Speaker 1: infinite amount of time. But if your boyfriend is here, 355 00:14:54,830 --> 00:14:57,219 Speaker 1: I think that's one of the biggest differences, like with 356 00:14:57,229 --> 00:14:59,700 Speaker 1: the LDR, right? I find that, 357 00:15:00,010 --> 00:15:02,690 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously you're on facetime. Are you on facetime? 358 00:15:02,700 --> 00:15:03,270 Speaker 1: Every 359 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:03,309 Speaker 1: day? 360 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:04,450 Speaker 2: Actually, every day. 361 00:15:04,460 --> 00:15:05,190 Speaker 1: Do 362 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:08,190 Speaker 1: you text throughout the day? You do? Like if your 363 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:10,130 Speaker 1: boyfriend lives here in Singapore. So sometimes I don't even 364 00:15:10,140 --> 00:15:12,469 Speaker 1: talk to my boyfriend until I see him. You know 365 00:15:12,479 --> 00:15:14,229 Speaker 1: what I mean? Like, it doesn't, you don't have to 366 00:15:14,239 --> 00:15:18,070 Speaker 1: feel that sense of connection. So I spend a lot 367 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:21,479 Speaker 1: more time on my phone if it was an LDR. 368 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:25,940 Speaker 2: Yeah, it is true. Actually, my screen time increased by 30% 369 00:15:27,150 --> 00:15:29,580 Speaker 2: for a good reason, for a good reason. But at 370 00:15:29,590 --> 00:15:32,429 Speaker 2: the same time I think it also can be quite draining, like, 371 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:35,739 Speaker 2: to constantly talk on the phone. Obviously, we get to 372 00:15:35,750 --> 00:15:38,270 Speaker 2: a stage of the face time where I just, I 373 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:40,109 Speaker 2: put the phone, then we just do our own thing, 374 00:15:40,119 --> 00:15:41,719 Speaker 2: but I kind of just want to do things together. 375 00:15:42,270 --> 00:15:45,190 Speaker 2: Like I play game. He like do his work like 376 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:46,630 Speaker 2: in the same physical space, 377 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:47,119 Speaker 1: right? 378 00:15:47,229 --> 00:15:50,690 Speaker 1: Do you find that because you only communicate via like 379 00:15:50,700 --> 00:15:54,679 Speaker 1: text or like video that heightens your communication skills a 380 00:15:54,690 --> 00:15:58,179 Speaker 1: little bit because you know, sometimes like via phone, you 381 00:15:58,190 --> 00:16:01,239 Speaker 1: have a little bit more Micom compare to like speaking 382 00:16:01,250 --> 00:16:02,700 Speaker 1: in person. Yes, 383 00:16:02,940 --> 00:16:03,369 Speaker 2: we 384 00:16:03,380 --> 00:16:04,719 Speaker 2: did fight like 385 00:16:05,159 --> 00:16:07,989 Speaker 2: over Miss Com a few times. Sometimes he can be 386 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,530 Speaker 2: quite a light ta I don't know how to say 387 00:16:10,539 --> 00:16:15,780 Speaker 2: that in like a cool text. So like where is 388 00:16:15,789 --> 00:16:20,369 Speaker 2: my heart emoji? I will just send you understand PC 389 00:16:20,429 --> 00:16:24,409 Speaker 2: face now. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I'll be like, are you angry? 390 00:16:24,419 --> 00:16:26,460 Speaker 2: Like what's going on? So I know I'm just tired 391 00:16:26,469 --> 00:16:29,929 Speaker 2: like yesterday, I was going out 392 00:16:30,369 --> 00:16:32,940 Speaker 2: to Avenue and then I thought like maybe like angry 393 00:16:33,059 --> 00:16:36,979 Speaker 2: I go au then I was like be like, are 394 00:16:36,989 --> 00:16:38,609 Speaker 2: you ok? He was like, oh sorry I just didn't 395 00:16:38,619 --> 00:16:41,369 Speaker 2: see a text because my sleep was on like have fun. 396 00:16:41,380 --> 00:16:43,039 Speaker 2: I was like ok ok. Yeah but yeah, I need 397 00:16:43,049 --> 00:16:45,789 Speaker 2: to like clear the air like very fast if not 398 00:16:45,799 --> 00:16:46,979 Speaker 2: you just like keep 399 00:16:46,989 --> 00:16:47,270 Speaker 1: thinking 400 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:49,349 Speaker 2: about it. Yeah, which is like horrible. 401 00:16:50,330 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lot of misunderstandings I think that can 402 00:16:52,409 --> 00:16:53,469 Speaker 1: happen and, 403 00:16:53,554 --> 00:16:55,724 Speaker 1: and like you said, I think he offers you a 404 00:16:55,734 --> 00:16:58,375 Speaker 1: lot of assurance, which is good. So if he were 405 00:16:58,385 --> 00:17:01,174 Speaker 1: to go out to a club with his friends, you 406 00:17:01,184 --> 00:17:02,505 Speaker 1: would be completely OK with it 407 00:17:02,625 --> 00:17:05,775 Speaker 2: because he's like how he he's not like a bottle 408 00:17:05,785 --> 00:17:07,375 Speaker 2: club guy. I feel like there's 409 00:17:07,385 --> 00:17:08,084 Speaker 1: bottle club 410 00:17:08,094 --> 00:17:11,734 Speaker 2: guy, there's like a few categories. So I OK. So 411 00:17:12,515 --> 00:17:16,204 Speaker 2: I used to date a guy who like always open 412 00:17:16,214 --> 00:17:16,665 Speaker 2: table at 413 00:17:16,739 --> 00:17:19,930 Speaker 2: the club. Ok. Yeah, so that gave me very like, 414 00:17:19,939 --> 00:17:23,349 Speaker 2: well like he's always like plowing the fuel la, right? Yeah, 415 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:26,189 Speaker 2: we bottle club guy. I wouldn't say all bottle club 416 00:17:26,199 --> 00:17:29,329 Speaker 2: guys like that because it's not fair to put everyone 417 00:17:29,339 --> 00:17:32,689 Speaker 2: in a single category. But when you go to Mary, 418 00:17:32,780 --> 00:17:35,719 Speaker 2: like you can see like, you know, like these guys, 419 00:17:35,729 --> 00:17:39,709 Speaker 2: why the open table for? So yeah, he's not that 420 00:17:39,719 --> 00:17:39,869 Speaker 2: kind of 421 00:17:39,925 --> 00:17:42,694 Speaker 2: club but he's more of a go to the bar, 422 00:17:42,704 --> 00:17:45,295 Speaker 2: listen music or like maybe go to a rave or 423 00:17:45,305 --> 00:17:48,204 Speaker 2: like a festival kind of guy. So he actually doesn't 424 00:17:48,214 --> 00:17:50,364 Speaker 2: party that much. So if he goes out with his friends, 425 00:17:50,375 --> 00:17:53,494 Speaker 2: he's always like dinner and like, bar drinks until like, 426 00:17:53,694 --> 00:17:56,814 Speaker 2: one to not too late. He always text me. So, 427 00:17:56,824 --> 00:17:59,795 Speaker 1: yeah. Have you ever had like, nights where you just, like, 428 00:17:59,805 --> 00:18:00,834 Speaker 1: spiral a little bit? 429 00:18:00,844 --> 00:18:02,984 Speaker 2: Definitely. Like, I think 430 00:18:03,410 --> 00:18:05,930 Speaker 2: when I can't sleep is probably, like, when I really 431 00:18:05,939 --> 00:18:08,409 Speaker 2: do feel it, but then I usually just like sleep 432 00:18:08,420 --> 00:18:13,670 Speaker 2: my dog and it's ok. Yeah, I think like if 433 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:15,629 Speaker 2: I'm like, truly alone alone, then it will be a 434 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:17,829 Speaker 2: lot harder. But I leave my mom and my dog. 435 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:21,359 Speaker 2: So I think I can always like lean into their 436 00:18:21,369 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 2: physical comfort. Yeah, it's not like 437 00:18:24,645 --> 00:18:27,385 Speaker 2: my best friend law. She's like my like we live 438 00:18:27,395 --> 00:18:29,145 Speaker 2: very close so we're like neighbors 439 00:18:29,555 --> 00:18:30,425 Speaker 2: on like tougher 440 00:18:30,435 --> 00:18:34,655 Speaker 1: days where everything is going like the wrong way and 441 00:18:34,665 --> 00:18:36,185 Speaker 1: you know, like those days you just want to come 442 00:18:36,194 --> 00:18:37,535 Speaker 1: home to that person. Yeah, 443 00:18:37,545 --> 00:18:37,685 Speaker 2: I 444 00:18:37,694 --> 00:18:38,514 Speaker 2: know. And we gonna 445 00:18:38,525 --> 00:18:39,104 Speaker 1: cry. 446 00:18:39,214 --> 00:18:42,494 Speaker 2: I, I it's like I told you if you because 447 00:18:42,505 --> 00:18:44,324 Speaker 2: like sometimes when we fight, it's like, oh, I just 448 00:18:44,334 --> 00:18:45,834 Speaker 2: really want to see you and I 449 00:18:46,189 --> 00:18:49,069 Speaker 2: hug it out but we can't. So we just try 450 00:18:49,079 --> 00:18:52,010 Speaker 2: to be very like loving with our words. 451 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:54,770 Speaker 1: But what about some days when you crave that physical 452 00:18:54,780 --> 00:18:57,218 Speaker 1: intimacy that you can't get. How do you guys work 453 00:18:57,229 --> 00:19:00,219 Speaker 1: around this? I don't know. I haven't found solutions like 454 00:19:00,229 --> 00:19:01,829 Speaker 1: LDR sex work. 455 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:01,939 Speaker 2: I 456 00:19:01,949 --> 00:19:02,239 Speaker 1: have 457 00:19:02,250 --> 00:19:06,030 Speaker 2: not had LS. Actually, I just, I find it because 458 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:08,300 Speaker 2: I think like both of us are very awkward like 459 00:19:08,420 --> 00:19:11,310 Speaker 2: and also like, um we just bang when we see 460 00:19:11,319 --> 00:19:11,599 Speaker 2: each other. 461 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:15,339 Speaker 1: Wait, what is the concept of LDR sex? 462 00:19:15,349 --> 00:19:16,139 Speaker 2: Like phone sex 463 00:19:16,849 --> 00:19:17,179 Speaker 1: sex? 464 00:19:18,459 --> 00:19:20,739 Speaker 2: But I've become way less. Like, 465 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:23,390 Speaker 2: how is it like when I was younger I was 466 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:27,329 Speaker 2: like more in heat but now I'm really more like subdued. 467 00:19:27,619 --> 00:19:30,380 Speaker 2: So I would say like, now it's like you can wait, 468 00:19:30,469 --> 00:19:33,379 Speaker 2: I can wait. And to me, like sex is not 469 00:19:33,390 --> 00:19:36,149 Speaker 2: like that important. It's important. 470 00:19:38,660 --> 00:19:43,619 Speaker 2: It's important. But I would say like when it happens 471 00:19:43,630 --> 00:19:46,439 Speaker 2: naturally is the most like it is the best. Correct. 472 00:19:46,550 --> 00:19:46,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. 473 00:19:46,689 --> 00:19:49,239 Speaker 1: Yeah. I think the thing about guys is that they 474 00:19:49,250 --> 00:19:53,719 Speaker 1: usually connect through the physical realm first. So it's almost 475 00:19:53,729 --> 00:19:56,219 Speaker 1: always about sex for them. But when you realize that 476 00:19:56,229 --> 00:19:59,119 Speaker 1: you and a guy connect on such a deep level 477 00:19:59,130 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 1: that to them, even 478 00:20:00,392 --> 00:20:03,292 Speaker 1: the sex is like not the main thing anymore. That's 479 00:20:03,302 --> 00:20:05,973 Speaker 1: when you know, it's like this is the one 480 00:20:06,613 --> 00:20:09,373 Speaker 2: I think we're just programmed to feel like sex is 481 00:20:09,383 --> 00:20:11,412 Speaker 2: like super OK. For me, at least I thought it 482 00:20:11,422 --> 00:20:14,311 Speaker 2: was really important. But of course, now that I've like 483 00:20:14,321 --> 00:20:17,772 Speaker 2: gone through a lot of like growth, inner growth and healing, 484 00:20:17,932 --> 00:20:20,842 Speaker 2: it's just a supporting factor. 485 00:20:21,133 --> 00:20:22,003 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 486 00:20:22,125 --> 00:20:23,046 Speaker 1: To have, it's 487 00:20:23,056 --> 00:20:23,206 Speaker 1: good 488 00:20:23,306 --> 00:20:23,326 Speaker 2: to 489 00:20:23,345 --> 00:20:23,595 Speaker 1: have 490 00:20:24,095 --> 00:20:24,865 Speaker 2: it good to have. 491 00:20:24,875 --> 00:20:25,036 Speaker 1: So 492 00:20:25,046 --> 00:20:27,625 Speaker 1: for our listeners tuning in if you are in an 493 00:20:27,635 --> 00:20:31,085 Speaker 1: LD likes ours have some tips for you that you 494 00:20:31,095 --> 00:20:33,456 Speaker 1: can actually practice to make this relationship even better. OK. 495 00:20:33,465 --> 00:20:35,105 Speaker 1: So you, you to tell us whether they work or 496 00:20:35,115 --> 00:20:37,815 Speaker 1: not first one day, even when you're not in the 497 00:20:37,826 --> 00:20:40,065 Speaker 1: same country. So plan virtual date for each 498 00:20:40,076 --> 00:20:40,225 Speaker 1: other 499 00:20:40,234 --> 00:20:41,225 Speaker 2: article before. 500 00:20:42,296 --> 00:20:42,545 Speaker 1: OK. OK. 501 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:47,349 Speaker 2: The 502 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:51,250 Speaker 1: first one virtual date, like one day virtual date a week, 503 00:20:51,260 --> 00:20:53,510 Speaker 2: we haven't done a virtual date, but I would say 504 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:57,208 Speaker 2: like it's quite tedious to do that because we both 505 00:20:57,219 --> 00:21:00,459 Speaker 2: have like busy schedules. So, and like virtual dates are 506 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:01,109 Speaker 2: like 507 00:21:01,869 --> 00:21:02,379 Speaker 2: boring. 508 00:21:02,390 --> 00:21:05,439 Speaker 1: Really? If you go to a nice restaurant, get a 509 00:21:05,449 --> 00:21:07,160 Speaker 1: table for one and he goes to a nice restaurant, 510 00:21:07,170 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 1: get a table for you. That really 511 00:21:09,699 --> 00:21:10,469 Speaker 1: would you do 512 00:21:10,489 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 1: that? I would, I think its sweet. I've done that once. What? Yeah. Really? Really? 513 00:21:14,770 --> 00:21:17,609 Speaker 1: But ok, maybe not so fancy. So the guy that 514 00:21:17,619 --> 00:21:18,500 Speaker 1: I was seeing 515 00:21:18,750 --> 00:21:21,810 Speaker 1: he's overseas for a trip. So in the Philippines. So 516 00:21:21,819 --> 00:21:24,930 Speaker 1: he just went to wherever like this restaurant he could find, 517 00:21:24,939 --> 00:21:28,420 Speaker 1: he sat down for dinner for me. I tap out home, 518 00:21:28,430 --> 00:21:31,489 Speaker 1: sat down at my table. We call 519 00:21:31,719 --> 00:21:32,780 Speaker 1: and we eat together. 520 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,290 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, we have dinner, we eat together. 521 00:21:35,300 --> 00:21:35,609 Speaker 2: So 522 00:21:36,890 --> 00:21:39,729 Speaker 1: that's a virtual day. Consider that a virtual day. 523 00:21:39,739 --> 00:21:42,810 Speaker 2: Actually, we just don't plan it. Like we don't like 524 00:21:42,819 --> 00:21:45,069 Speaker 2: we'll do like X time because I think we talk 525 00:21:45,079 --> 00:21:50,189 Speaker 2: all the time. Yeah. So like we just, like, spontaneous. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 526 00:21:50,199 --> 00:21:52,550 Speaker 2: But I think it's a good idea. Maybe I'll try that. Like, oh, 527 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:54,978 Speaker 2: we'll have like, a Saturday, like, dinner date. 528 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:00,899 Speaker 1: Cute. I think it's also good to kind of, like, 529 00:22:00,930 --> 00:22:04,180 Speaker 1: have an idea of when you can see this person 530 00:22:04,189 --> 00:22:09,409 Speaker 1: next that, like, make you sane the counting 531 00:22:09,420 --> 00:22:10,579 Speaker 1: down. Drive you nuts. 532 00:22:10,589 --> 00:22:12,609 Speaker 2: It used to. But I will say I just take 533 00:22:12,619 --> 00:22:16,219 Speaker 2: it day by day and, like, don't think too far 534 00:22:16,229 --> 00:22:18,810 Speaker 2: or like, think because it's like, when I see it 535 00:22:18,819 --> 00:22:21,649 Speaker 2: is like a world will or like, wh wind of emotions. 536 00:22:21,790 --> 00:22:23,609 Speaker 2: So it's like, I just, I have to like, 537 00:22:24,969 --> 00:22:26,920 Speaker 2: and I settle because I feel like 538 00:22:27,569 --> 00:22:30,680 Speaker 2: LD, like, when you first see them, it's like, oh, yeah, 539 00:22:30,689 --> 00:22:33,359 Speaker 2: I see them for the first time again. I get 540 00:22:33,369 --> 00:22:35,429 Speaker 2: a bit, like, awkward and shy. So. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 541 00:22:35,439 --> 00:22:38,030 Speaker 2: And I thought that was so strange. I'm like, talk 542 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:39,958 Speaker 2: to this guy, like, every day. Why do I feel shy? 543 00:22:39,969 --> 00:22:40,389 Speaker 2: But the 544 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:42,510 Speaker 1: actual physical person? Yeah. I guess 545 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 2: it's different. Yeah. But it's nice. So when he came 546 00:22:45,530 --> 00:22:48,429 Speaker 2: to Singapore, like, I was counting, I couldn't sleep for like, 547 00:22:48,439 --> 00:22:50,390 Speaker 2: a few days. I was like, like doing my hair. 548 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:52,780 Speaker 2: My mom was like, you just see, like, you just 549 00:22:53,130 --> 00:22:53,869 Speaker 2: wait with the car. 550 00:22:55,050 --> 00:22:55,290 Speaker 1: Yeah. 551 00:22:55,300 --> 00:22:56,880 Speaker 2: I want him to come more actually. 552 00:22:57,420 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 2: I really enjoy him here. 553 00:22:59,329 --> 00:23:01,880 Speaker 1: Do you cry every time? You have to say goodbye? 554 00:23:01,959 --> 00:23:02,680 Speaker 2: Yes. 555 00:23:02,949 --> 00:23:07,060 Speaker 2: Yeah. It's like a breakup. But not really. It's like 556 00:23:07,069 --> 00:23:07,239 Speaker 2: it's a 557 00:23:07,250 --> 00:23:09,170 Speaker 1: temporary breakup to see each other 558 00:23:09,180 --> 00:23:09,709 Speaker 1: again. 559 00:23:09,739 --> 00:23:12,849 Speaker 2: Yes, definitely. I would say you do get stronger because 560 00:23:13,739 --> 00:23:16,739 Speaker 2: a man was giving me some like LDR tips and 561 00:23:16,750 --> 00:23:19,670 Speaker 2: like she was saying like, initially it's always like you 562 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,150 Speaker 2: feel like it's like super hard, but as time goes 563 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:24,709 Speaker 2: on it just you get stronger and it's true. Actually 564 00:23:24,719 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 2: last trip when I left I really don't want to go, 565 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:33,670 Speaker 2: but I felt like more like resolved in my departure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 566 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:35,819 Speaker 2: I know that I'm gonna come back. So it's ok. 567 00:23:35,890 --> 00:23:35,910 Speaker 2: I 568 00:23:36,380 --> 00:23:39,380 Speaker 1: love that. Yeah, I think that like, I mean, according 569 00:23:39,390 --> 00:23:41,430 Speaker 1: to this article which you have read as well, another 570 00:23:41,439 --> 00:23:44,209 Speaker 1: thing you can do is like surprise each other. Like 571 00:23:44,319 --> 00:23:46,750 Speaker 1: you can order food for him to his workplace or 572 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 1: to his house or 573 00:23:47,819 --> 00:23:47,849 Speaker 2: I 574 00:23:47,859 --> 00:23:48,188 Speaker 1: did that 575 00:23:48,199 --> 00:23:48,349 Speaker 2: for 576 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:51,859 Speaker 2: his birthday actually. Yeah. But it wasn't a surprise because 577 00:23:51,869 --> 00:23:52,699 Speaker 2: he had to pick it up. 578 00:23:54,459 --> 00:23:56,489 Speaker 1: Ok. The next point which I think you're doing very 579 00:23:56,500 --> 00:24:00,239 Speaker 1: well be open about talking about the frustrations of long distance. Yeah. 580 00:24:00,300 --> 00:24:01,609 Speaker 1: I really like what you said at the start of 581 00:24:01,619 --> 00:24:03,930 Speaker 1: this episode. Like, don't focus on the things that suck 582 00:24:03,939 --> 00:24:06,209 Speaker 1: because if you do that's gonna suck even more. Shout 583 00:24:06,260 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 1: out 584 00:24:06,290 --> 00:24:07,410 Speaker 2: to my boyfriend. 585 00:24:08,650 --> 00:24:09,530 Speaker 1: You man. 586 00:24:10,339 --> 00:24:12,890 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like it takes a mature 587 00:24:12,900 --> 00:24:13,770 Speaker 2: man to like 588 00:24:14,819 --> 00:24:17,629 Speaker 2: do long distance. Of course. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I feel 589 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:20,869 Speaker 2: like it's easy to fall into temptation, but you just 590 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,989 Speaker 2: need to realize that like, it will just pass and 591 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:25,310 Speaker 2: like you're probably just lonely. 592 00:24:25,329 --> 00:24:29,469 Speaker 1: That's true. And I think that also begs the question, right? 593 00:24:29,949 --> 00:24:32,260 Speaker 1: I mean, you've been in this LDR for eight months. 594 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:34,750 Speaker 1: Is it gonna be forever? Like now, 595 00:24:36,060 --> 00:24:39,060 Speaker 1: have you actually considered like, oh, like maybe one day 596 00:24:39,069 --> 00:24:40,689 Speaker 1: you just fed up. I'm like, I'm just gonna fucking 597 00:24:40,699 --> 00:24:43,109 Speaker 1: move to Melbourne because I don't want to be here anymore. 598 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:44,510 Speaker 2: I'm 599 00:24:44,650 --> 00:24:48,719 Speaker 2: quite committed to being in Asia. I mean, I love Asia, 600 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 2: but I actually spoke to my therapist about this yesterday. 601 00:24:51,530 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 2: So 602 00:24:52,410 --> 00:24:54,810 Speaker 2: I was saying like, I do miss like living abroad 603 00:24:54,819 --> 00:24:57,089 Speaker 2: because I was, I used to live in London. I 604 00:24:57,099 --> 00:24:59,290 Speaker 2: always felt that it was very carefree and like, obviously 605 00:24:59,300 --> 00:25:02,329 Speaker 2: I was in uni so obviously carefree and like in London, 606 00:25:02,339 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 2: I was like completely like, no filter, like even worse, 607 00:25:05,109 --> 00:25:07,310 Speaker 2: but I enjoyed it. I was like, OK, you know, 608 00:25:07,319 --> 00:25:09,899 Speaker 2: no one gives a, gives a fuck, you know. Yeah. 609 00:25:09,910 --> 00:25:11,479 Speaker 2: So I, I don't mind going to Melbourne 610 00:25:11,555 --> 00:25:14,474 Speaker 2: if not. Like my boyfriend is looking for remote work. 611 00:25:14,484 --> 00:25:18,274 Speaker 2: So I want to hire him up. Yeah. What does 612 00:25:18,305 --> 00:25:21,854 Speaker 2: he do? Actually, he's an account manager in a tech company. 613 00:25:22,334 --> 00:25:25,775 Speaker 2: Singapore can find out but I'm quite scared for him 614 00:25:25,785 --> 00:25:29,464 Speaker 2: because Singapore, what culture is pretty intense. That's true. And 615 00:25:29,474 --> 00:25:30,694 Speaker 2: I don't want him to like 616 00:25:31,239 --> 00:25:35,180 Speaker 2: suffer because of me. We should like, I have like 617 00:25:35,500 --> 00:25:37,650 Speaker 2: uprooted my life. Before. So I understand it's like a 618 00:25:37,660 --> 00:25:41,959 Speaker 2: big change. It's not easy because he is older and 619 00:25:41,969 --> 00:25:45,449 Speaker 2: like he does have friends everywhere, but I do understand 620 00:25:45,459 --> 00:25:48,419 Speaker 2: that it will obviously be a huge shock to the system, 621 00:25:48,430 --> 00:25:50,380 Speaker 2: of course. So, yeah, I'm understanding, 622 00:25:50,390 --> 00:25:52,369 Speaker 1: you can see it's a learning curve instead of as 623 00:25:52,380 --> 00:25:55,770 Speaker 1: a culture shock. OK. You're very patient. I really like that. 624 00:25:55,780 --> 00:25:57,099 Speaker 1: You have this like Zen, 625 00:25:57,369 --> 00:25:59,409 Speaker 1: I don't know, I didn't expect that of her. She's like, 626 00:25:59,420 --> 00:26:02,439 Speaker 1: very Zen. It's like she knows that it will happen 627 00:26:02,449 --> 00:26:04,709 Speaker 1: in due time. She just has to, if not do 628 00:26:04,719 --> 00:26:05,369 Speaker 1: the work. 629 00:26:05,380 --> 00:26:07,500 Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe I'm too Zen. I should, I put more 630 00:26:07,510 --> 00:26:08,349 Speaker 2: pressure on him. 631 00:26:13,439 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 2: I, because like my mom always like hound him like, 632 00:26:16,530 --> 00:26:19,079 Speaker 2: oh like how me to hound him? Like when he move, 633 00:26:19,140 --> 00:26:21,300 Speaker 2: when I was like mom, you just need to trust 634 00:26:21,310 --> 00:26:22,739 Speaker 2: that he will because I do see him put in 635 00:26:22,750 --> 00:26:25,379 Speaker 2: the conscious effort. He just doesn't like talk about it. 636 00:26:26,790 --> 00:26:28,179 Speaker 1: But you are freelancer yourself, right? 637 00:26:28,324 --> 00:26:30,905 Speaker 1: Yeah. So it's very easy for you. If you have 638 00:26:30,915 --> 00:26:33,395 Speaker 1: pockets of time to just fly there, see him for 639 00:26:33,405 --> 00:26:34,155 Speaker 1: a bit and come back, 640 00:26:34,165 --> 00:26:34,175 Speaker 2: I 641 00:26:34,185 --> 00:26:37,034 Speaker 2: think with my schedule is so unpredictable. That's why I 642 00:26:37,045 --> 00:26:39,435 Speaker 2: feel like I spent a lot of time like close 643 00:26:39,444 --> 00:26:43,515 Speaker 2: to Singapore just in case just in case you never know. 644 00:26:43,834 --> 00:26:46,655 Speaker 2: But I was like before people do they have like 645 00:26:46,665 --> 00:26:49,444 Speaker 2: this foundation? I didn't have that. So I was like, 646 00:26:49,454 --> 00:26:51,555 Speaker 2: I kind of want that, you know, like, 647 00:26:51,949 --> 00:26:53,890 Speaker 2: I feel like we've talked a lot on the phone 648 00:26:53,979 --> 00:26:54,969 Speaker 2: but I want something more. 649 00:26:54,979 --> 00:26:57,468 Speaker 1: Do you feel like when he came to Singapore or, like, 650 00:26:57,479 --> 00:27:01,099 Speaker 1: when you go over it's always, like, doing things and, like, 651 00:27:01,109 --> 00:27:04,569 Speaker 1: being exciting. But, like, do you ever feel that you 652 00:27:04,579 --> 00:27:06,890 Speaker 1: all need to do, like, maybe a slight prolonged period? 653 00:27:07,199 --> 00:27:07,650 Speaker 2: Like 654 00:27:07,660 --> 00:27:11,680 Speaker 1: either one country, the nothing, nothing like their everyday 655 00:27:11,689 --> 00:27:12,199 Speaker 1: life. 656 00:27:12,459 --> 00:27:14,010 Speaker 2: Yes. I actually 657 00:27:14,699 --> 00:27:17,359 Speaker 2: agree with you because I do like doing nothing with 658 00:27:17,369 --> 00:27:20,260 Speaker 2: my partner. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I like the fun stuff 659 00:27:20,270 --> 00:27:24,599 Speaker 2: is like just like going grocery shopping or like cooking, 660 00:27:24,609 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 2: cleaning 661 00:27:25,050 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 1: the house. 662 00:27:25,810 --> 00:27:27,810 Speaker 2: He forced me to go running like one week. I 663 00:27:27,819 --> 00:27:29,790 Speaker 2: was like, I'm never doing this before, 664 00:27:31,569 --> 00:27:34,209 Speaker 1: but at least you try and make new experiences together. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 665 00:27:34,219 --> 00:27:34,319 Speaker 2: I 666 00:27:34,329 --> 00:27:37,500 Speaker 2: tried. The key word is I tried, I tried, we 667 00:27:37,510 --> 00:27:40,469 Speaker 2: just always end up doing like lazy LA. Yeah, we 668 00:27:40,479 --> 00:27:41,500 Speaker 2: are both quite like, 669 00:27:44,260 --> 00:27:46,339 Speaker 1: I love that really sounds like you have a good 670 00:27:46,349 --> 00:27:48,689 Speaker 1: relationship going for you and I'm so happy for you. 671 00:27:49,209 --> 00:27:51,989 Speaker 1: Very proud of you. Like this is a huge challenge 672 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 1: and you're fucking acing it like really? 673 00:27:54,455 --> 00:27:55,196 Speaker 1: You are, you 674 00:27:55,234 --> 00:27:56,315 Speaker 2: are OK. 675 00:27:56,465 --> 00:27:56,836 Speaker 2: Thanks 676 00:27:56,855 --> 00:27:59,465 Speaker 1: guys. Honestly, I think with LDR is right? Like there's 677 00:27:59,475 --> 00:28:01,264 Speaker 1: so many things that could make or break it at 678 00:28:01,276 --> 00:28:03,355 Speaker 1: the end of the day. It's not about doing everything, right? 679 00:28:03,365 --> 00:28:06,484 Speaker 1: But it's also about the people involved in it. Like, 680 00:28:06,494 --> 00:28:10,666 Speaker 1: I had a friend who met someone she really, really liked, 681 00:28:10,676 --> 00:28:14,365 Speaker 1: but he lives halfway across the world and he had 682 00:28:14,375 --> 00:28:16,885 Speaker 1: a very bad previous experience with an LDR 683 00:28:17,531 --> 00:28:19,111 Speaker 1: and he was turned off to the idea of it 684 00:28:19,121 --> 00:28:23,670 Speaker 1: completely and they weren't able to advance their connection even 685 00:28:23,682 --> 00:28:26,121 Speaker 1: though it was a really good connection. But they couldn't, 686 00:28:26,131 --> 00:28:28,751 Speaker 1: because it was like, you have to be here, we 687 00:28:28,761 --> 00:28:30,331 Speaker 1: have to be in the same place or nothing at all. 688 00:28:30,421 --> 00:28:32,232 Speaker 2: I think he probably has unresolved 689 00:28:32,241 --> 00:28:32,831 Speaker 2: trauma 690 00:28:32,962 --> 00:28:34,562 Speaker 1: and it was right for him to not step into 691 00:28:34,571 --> 00:28:37,212 Speaker 1: their relationship. If that's the case, that's true. It won't 692 00:28:37,222 --> 00:28:38,021 Speaker 1: be fair to your friend. 693 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:44,339 Speaker 2: I feel like, like the loss of potential, you know, 694 00:28:44,349 --> 00:28:46,510 Speaker 2: I mean, I can understand why she would be very 695 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,790 Speaker 2: upset because he's so harsh. That means it's not meant 696 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 2: to be, he's not the one 697 00:28:52,969 --> 00:28:54,969 Speaker 1: so last, but not least if a friend came up 698 00:28:54,979 --> 00:28:57,719 Speaker 1: to you and said I'm thinking of trying out a 699 00:28:57,750 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 1: long distance relationship, what we honest advice be, would you say? 700 00:29:01,930 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 1: Honest? 701 00:29:02,699 --> 00:29:05,469 Speaker 2: No, I wouldn't say run. I would like to each 702 00:29:05,479 --> 00:29:08,630 Speaker 2: their own. I feel like if you feel that this 703 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:09,810 Speaker 2: person is 704 00:29:10,219 --> 00:29:13,839 Speaker 2: important and you want to give it a shot, just try. 705 00:29:14,209 --> 00:29:15,900 Speaker 2: But if it's like a bad character, I'd be like 706 00:29:15,910 --> 00:29:16,510 Speaker 2: no 707 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 1: person, 708 00:29:18,410 --> 00:29:18,540 Speaker 1: not 709 00:29:18,550 --> 00:29:18,599 Speaker 2: the 710 00:29:18,709 --> 00:29:19,030 Speaker 1: person. 711 00:29:19,119 --> 00:29:22,719 Speaker 2: It's definitely the person like I feel like because we 712 00:29:22,729 --> 00:29:27,199 Speaker 2: live in such a digital world now, connection can happen 713 00:29:27,599 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 2: digitally Right. I mean, it's not the same as physical, 714 00:29:30,290 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 2: but you can still see a person's effort by text you, 715 00:29:35,069 --> 00:29:37,250 Speaker 2: like, wishing you good night every night. You know, all 716 00:29:37,260 --> 00:29:39,410 Speaker 2: these things are very small things that actually really matter 717 00:29:39,420 --> 00:29:43,250 Speaker 2: to like girls and some guys just cannot do it 718 00:29:43,609 --> 00:29:46,780 Speaker 2: for now. Maybe they need to, like, grow. But if 719 00:29:46,790 --> 00:29:49,689 Speaker 2: it really depends on the guy and also you, like, 720 00:29:49,699 --> 00:29:51,750 Speaker 2: can you handle it? Like, my best friend was like 721 00:29:51,869 --> 00:29:54,510 Speaker 2: dating some guy was like, are you sure? I don't 722 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:56,209 Speaker 2: think you can do LD yet. 723 00:29:56,579 --> 00:29:56,619 Speaker 1: Yeah. 724 00:29:56,630 --> 00:29:58,569 Speaker 2: Like because I feel like 725 00:29:59,020 --> 00:30:02,719 Speaker 2: she really craves someone to be with her. 726 00:30:02,729 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 1: Understand and I feel like you're lucky because yes, you 727 00:30:06,290 --> 00:30:09,189 Speaker 1: are apart physically. But time difference is not, it's not 728 00:30:09,199 --> 00:30:09,670 Speaker 1: that bad. 729 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:09,939 Speaker 2: It's not 730 00:30:09,949 --> 00:30:09,959 Speaker 1: a 731 00:30:09,969 --> 00:30:10,150 Speaker 2: bad. 732 00:30:10,170 --> 00:30:11,089 Speaker 1: How many hours? 733 00:30:11,099 --> 00:30:12,270 Speaker 2: It's only two hours. 734 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:12,979 Speaker 1: OK? 735 00:30:13,900 --> 00:30:17,239 Speaker 1: Someone living in for example, L A and it's like 736 00:30:17,250 --> 00:30:20,089 Speaker 1: day and night. Yeah. The physical difference, the time difference 737 00:30:20,099 --> 00:30:21,939 Speaker 1: is gonna be like so hard for you to work. 738 00:30:21,949 --> 00:30:21,959 Speaker 1: I 739 00:30:21,969 --> 00:30:25,229 Speaker 2: have, yeah, I wouldn't have been so committed if 740 00:30:25,334 --> 00:30:26,935 Speaker 2: it was like so far away, 741 00:30:26,944 --> 00:30:27,354 Speaker 1: you have to 742 00:30:27,364 --> 00:30:28,344 Speaker 1: fly 61 C 743 00:30:29,704 --> 00:30:31,854 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like Australia is like, not 744 00:30:31,864 --> 00:30:34,935 Speaker 2: that far in that sense. I mean, obviously like Ko 745 00:30:34,944 --> 00:30:42,425 Speaker 2: is the best. They very fun. No, it's OK. This 746 00:30:42,435 --> 00:30:43,005 Speaker 1: is life, 747 00:30:43,015 --> 00:30:43,185 Speaker 2: this 748 00:30:43,194 --> 00:30:43,334 Speaker 1: is, 749 00:30:43,564 --> 00:30:44,334 Speaker 2: is life. You 750 00:30:44,354 --> 00:30:47,275 Speaker 1: know what babe tell you. We harsh girlies and all 751 00:30:47,285 --> 00:30:49,545 Speaker 1: our listeners and viewers send our regards and love from 752 00:30:49,555 --> 00:30:51,545 Speaker 1: Singapore and we wish you all the best in the 753 00:30:51,650 --> 00:30:53,489 Speaker 1: relationship. Thank you for sharing so much with us. 754 00:30:53,500 --> 00:30:55,420 Speaker 2: Maybe next episode he will come, 755 00:30:56,130 --> 00:30:56,369 Speaker 1: we 756 00:30:56,380 --> 00:31:02,209 Speaker 1: manifesting it like, like you guys will have a happily 757 00:31:02,219 --> 00:31:02,439 Speaker 1: ever 758 00:31:02,449 --> 00:31:02,949 Speaker 1: after, 759 00:31:02,959 --> 00:31:04,609 Speaker 2: maybe not feel it. But then I don't want to 760 00:31:04,619 --> 00:31:09,790 Speaker 2: like J it cynical 761 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:12,859 Speaker 1: to all listeners tuning in. If you are in the 762 00:31:12,869 --> 00:31:15,910 Speaker 1: LDR yourself, we wish you all the best. OK? If 763 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:17,859 Speaker 1: you like our content, you can follow us on Instagram 764 00:31:17,869 --> 00:31:17,900 Speaker 1: at 765 00:31:18,104 --> 00:31:20,484 Speaker 1: celebrity.co for more. That's right. You can listen to us 766 00:31:20,494 --> 00:31:23,234 Speaker 1: on Spotify Me. Listen, Apple Podcast. If you want to 767 00:31:23,244 --> 00:31:26,675 Speaker 1: see Saffron's beautiful face, it's on youtube and from the 768 00:31:26,685 --> 00:31:28,785 Speaker 1: bottom of our hearts. Seriously. Thank you so much for 769 00:31:28,795 --> 00:31:31,925 Speaker 1: tuning in week after week to Hush Podcast. And thank 770 00:31:31,935 --> 00:31:34,545 Speaker 1: you to Saffron as well. I mean, for sharing so 771 00:31:34,555 --> 00:31:37,464 Speaker 1: openly and like, yeah, I think we've learned a lot 772 00:31:37,474 --> 00:31:39,824 Speaker 1: and hopefully listeners have learned a lot from you as well. 773 00:31:39,864 --> 00:31:41,864 Speaker 1: Today I learned about the concept of LDR sex. I 774 00:31:41,875 --> 00:31:42,915 Speaker 1: never knew about it. She 775 00:31:42,944 --> 00:31:43,604 Speaker 2: means the honey. 776 00:31:45,290 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 1: I do. 777 00:31:47,479 --> 00:31:50,790 Speaker 1: OK. We're ending this episode here. Bye bye bye.