1 00:00:02,809 --> 00:00:06,340 Speaker 1: OK, I'm sharing a new thing. Oh, actually, I'm not 2 00:00:06,340 --> 00:00:08,510 Speaker 1: the oldest child. Yeah. Wait, what do you 3 00:00:08,510 --> 00:00:10,869 Speaker 2: mean? you see your mom is a housewife but she's 4 00:00:10,869 --> 00:00:12,658 Speaker 2: a PI. She is a PI. She's a PI, 5 00:00:13,109 --> 00:00:15,710 Speaker 1: you know, suddenly appear in the arcade, right? and then 6 00:00:15,710 --> 00:00:17,100 Speaker 1: she's like, I caught you. 7 00:00:19,549 --> 00:00:22,190 Speaker 2: I remember her looking at my vice principal and saying, 8 00:00:22,270 --> 00:00:24,350 Speaker 2: if you're not going to do anything about this, my 9 00:00:24,350 --> 00:00:26,790 Speaker 2: daughter is not going to take PSLE next year and 10 00:00:26,790 --> 00:00:28,750 Speaker 2: if MOE ask me why, I'll tell them because this 11 00:00:28,750 --> 00:00:29,510 Speaker 2: school is useless. 12 00:00:36,750 --> 00:00:39,340 Speaker 1: Hello everyone. Welcome to another episode of the Hot Pot 13 00:00:39,340 --> 00:00:41,939 Speaker 1: where we hop into different transitions in life. I'm Nick. 14 00:00:42,060 --> 00:00:45,700 Speaker 1: I'm Joey, I'm Q and to all mums watching, happy 15 00:00:45,700 --> 00:00:46,379 Speaker 1: Mother's Day. 16 00:00:47,939 --> 00:00:51,299 Speaker 1: It is your day. In case you haven't noticed, the 17 00:00:51,299 --> 00:00:55,450 Speaker 1: studio is looking a little bit special. Very floral. Very 18 00:00:55,450 --> 00:00:56,959 Speaker 1: floral indeed. 19 00:00:57,979 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 1: It's Leo. You mean you didn't know you didn't know me. 20 00:01:03,419 --> 00:01:05,779 Speaker 1: I know you never see real flowers for very long. 21 00:01:06,139 --> 00:01:07,830 Speaker 1: Is it me? No, he 22 00:01:07,830 --> 00:01:08,739 Speaker 2: looked here. I don't know 23 00:01:08,739 --> 00:01:12,709 Speaker 1: why. No, I actually, I was at. But then I 24 00:01:12,709 --> 00:01:16,459 Speaker 1: thought inclusive. OK, thanks for being inclusive. I love it. OK, 25 00:01:16,540 --> 00:01:19,050 Speaker 1: so today's episode is a special one. It is brought 26 00:01:19,050 --> 00:01:20,769 Speaker 1: to you by the Lego Group. 27 00:01:21,470 --> 00:01:24,050 Speaker 2: And on that note, we are going to be talking 28 00:01:24,050 --> 00:01:25,529 Speaker 2: about mama. 29 00:01:26,129 --> 00:01:27,410 Speaker 1: OK, so you wanna talk. 30 00:01:30,809 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 1: Suddenly I'm watching a movie, like chicks. 31 00:01:33,290 --> 00:01:35,889 Speaker 2: We've shared a lot about fathers in our previous Father's 32 00:01:35,889 --> 00:01:38,208 Speaker 2: Day episodes. So this time we are going to talk 33 00:01:38,209 --> 00:01:40,809 Speaker 2: about our mothers and see how well we know 34 00:01:40,809 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 2: them. 35 00:01:41,230 --> 00:01:43,089 Speaker 1: And all of our moms are here today, they're not. 36 00:01:43,610 --> 00:01:46,128 Speaker 1: Oh my God. I know it's not gonna happen, but 37 00:01:46,129 --> 00:01:48,610 Speaker 1: I don't know why I got shocked. OK, first off, 38 00:01:48,769 --> 00:01:51,849 Speaker 1: what do you call your moms? Actually, when I was young, right? 39 00:01:52,230 --> 00:01:55,379 Speaker 1: Um, I used to call her mommy. OK, like every 40 00:01:55,379 --> 00:01:58,629 Speaker 1: other Singaporean, you're trying to be special, I call her mother. 41 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: Like how they call their 42 00:02:02,870 --> 00:02:08,089 Speaker 1: Their mother, I think it's because it feels less endearing 43 00:02:08,089 --> 00:02:10,500 Speaker 1: like because you're an adult now, how can you call 44 00:02:10,500 --> 00:02:16,638 Speaker 1: your mom mummy? Mommy I call my mom mummy too 45 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:17,339 Speaker 1: or like me. 46 00:02:17,460 --> 00:02:17,789 Speaker 2: I can't 47 00:02:17,788 --> 00:02:20,419 Speaker 2: pinpoint where it started, but from secondary school onwards, right? 48 00:02:20,429 --> 00:02:22,500 Speaker 2: I used to call her Oma, yeah, 49 00:02:22,899 --> 00:02:23,198 Speaker 1: I think. 50 00:02:27,794 --> 00:02:28,845 Speaker 1: I last time your ex-boyfriend, you're like, 51 00:02:28,854 --> 00:02:36,445 Speaker 2: eh, don't have it's only my mother but I don't 52 00:02:36,445 --> 00:02:38,883 Speaker 2: know why. Like since secondary school it was like a 53 00:02:38,883 --> 00:02:41,125 Speaker 2: only I call Oma. I call my father dad as 54 00:02:41,125 --> 00:02:43,244 Speaker 2: we've talked about it, uh, now I 55 00:02:43,244 --> 00:02:44,005 Speaker 2: just say mom. Oh, 56 00:02:44,565 --> 00:02:49,195 Speaker 1: OK, not challenge, OK. Do you all know your mom's age? Yeah. 57 00:02:50,470 --> 00:02:53,758 Speaker 1: I was gonna say you got 1972 58 00:02:53,758 --> 00:03:00,149 Speaker 2: is 63 now it's 25, so it will be something, 59 00:03:00,350 --> 00:03:00,690 Speaker 1: right? 60 00:03:00,699 --> 00:03:05,350 Speaker 2: 5353, OK, yeah, you know her birth year? Yeah, yeah, 61 00:03:05,399 --> 00:03:06,470 Speaker 1: 1963 62 00:03:06,470 --> 00:03:07,309 Speaker 2: mom and my dad same 63 00:03:07,309 --> 00:03:07,690 Speaker 2: age. 64 00:03:08,190 --> 00:03:09,830 Speaker 1: I don't know the birth year but I know her age. 65 00:03:09,990 --> 00:03:12,630 Speaker 1: She's 6. The math is good. I just every year 66 00:03:12,630 --> 00:03:15,949 Speaker 1: I try to remember the 90% confident. So if it 67 00:03:15,949 --> 00:03:17,350 Speaker 1: comes out and then it's wrong then. 68 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: No, no, not like you know you ask your mother. 69 00:03:24,089 --> 00:03:24,888 Speaker 2: What do your moms 70 00:03:24,889 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 2: do? 71 00:03:25,288 --> 00:03:30,649 Speaker 1: Oh, my mom is, uh, a GM at, yeah, she's 72 00:03:30,649 --> 00:03:35,669 Speaker 1: a gentle mom at a foam manufacturing company, uh, like scrubdaddy, OK, 73 00:03:37,570 --> 00:03:39,009 Speaker 1: that kind of that kind like Scotch bride or kind 74 00:03:39,009 --> 00:03:41,289 Speaker 1: of like or like, or it can be even like 75 00:03:41,289 --> 00:03:42,970 Speaker 1: industrial in the wall, that 76 00:03:42,970 --> 00:03:46,759 Speaker 2: kind of foam for airplane is crazy. 77 00:03:47,029 --> 00:03:48,928 Speaker 2: Airplane the foams 78 00:03:48,929 --> 00:03:51,259 Speaker 1: to keep warm. I don't know. So, your mom is 79 00:03:51,259 --> 00:03:53,220 Speaker 1: not retired yet. No, but I think she's quite close 80 00:03:53,220 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: or like she thinking of, OK, OK, she's just doing 81 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:01,729 Speaker 1: her thing, yeah. My mom used to be a designer. Um, 82 00:04:01,740 --> 00:04:03,339 Speaker 1: how do I describe it? OK, because my dad is 83 00:04:03,339 --> 00:04:07,119 Speaker 1: a subcontractor, so they met at work, so she like designed, design, 84 00:04:07,740 --> 00:04:11,380 Speaker 1: not interior like. My mom is not an architect, but 85 00:04:11,380 --> 00:04:16,059 Speaker 1: she was designing things in the shipyard and the contract. 86 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 1: The contract site. Beautiful. No, I need to explain myself 87 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 1: because my mom stopped working, uh, the moment she became 88 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:28,350 Speaker 1: a mother. So I never knew her as a career woman. 89 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:33,959 Speaker 2: My mom is a secretary slash personal assistant, and I 90 00:04:33,959 --> 00:04:37,089 Speaker 2: recently learned that she got poached. Yeah, like. 91 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:38,178 Speaker 2: You up. 92 00:04:38,470 --> 00:04:41,339 Speaker 1: OK, would you say that you are close to your moms? 93 00:04:41,470 --> 00:04:45,149 Speaker 2: I think we're OK. Well, we've had a pretty, I 94 00:04:45,149 --> 00:04:47,149 Speaker 2: don't want to say turbulent, but I think we are 95 00:04:47,149 --> 00:04:51,630 Speaker 2: both very um strong characters, so we do butt hits 96 00:04:51,630 --> 00:04:54,709 Speaker 2: quite a lot and as I get older, I think 97 00:04:54,709 --> 00:04:57,070 Speaker 2: it's kind of like olive branch kind of thing, you know, 98 00:04:57,109 --> 00:05:00,058 Speaker 2: we don't have a lot of time in the world 99 00:05:00,059 --> 00:05:00,769 Speaker 2: to 100 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:05,089 Speaker 2: Keep this like thing going, so yeah, 101 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 1: cordial. OK, I would say that I'm quite close to 102 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:10,959 Speaker 1: my mom, close in a way where every single day 103 00:05:10,959 --> 00:05:14,359 Speaker 1: we would. Yeah, you should be the closest one because 104 00:05:14,359 --> 00:05:16,600 Speaker 1: you're staying together. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, but I would 105 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 1: say that there are moments or or rough times in 106 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:21,959 Speaker 1: my life where I would go to her and I 107 00:05:21,959 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 1: would still cry and like share my my struggles with her. 108 00:05:25,369 --> 00:05:27,609 Speaker 1: I would say that is an indication that we are 109 00:05:27,609 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 1: quite close. How's your relationship with your mom? Quite good. Um, 110 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:33,179 Speaker 1: I think I'm probably the closest to her in my family. 111 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 1: What I appreciated was when I was young, right, she 112 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 1: was quite a progressive parent. My dad also, but I 113 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:40,630 Speaker 1: think my mom even more so like. 114 00:05:41,029 --> 00:05:43,549 Speaker 1: I'll support you if whatever you want to do as 115 00:05:43,549 --> 00:05:45,790 Speaker 1: long as you know you like be a good person 116 00:05:45,790 --> 00:05:48,260 Speaker 1: kind of thing. Let you go to Poly, don't need 117 00:05:48,260 --> 00:05:51,429 Speaker 1: to go to JC. You don't want to go to 118 00:05:51,428 --> 00:05:54,549 Speaker 1: local university, that's fine, that kind of thing. That's exactly 119 00:05:54,549 --> 00:05:56,669 Speaker 1: the same as my mom actually, she has always been 120 00:05:56,670 --> 00:05:57,549 Speaker 1: the one fighting. 121 00:05:58,109 --> 00:06:00,429 Speaker 1: For me to just do my own thing and when 122 00:06:00,428 --> 00:06:03,070 Speaker 1: my dad was insistent on me going to uni, right, 123 00:06:03,109 --> 00:06:05,488 Speaker 1: she was like, go poly it's OK. And then there 124 00:06:05,488 --> 00:06:08,269 Speaker 1: was this one time she actually joked, she said, one 125 00:06:08,269 --> 00:06:09,970 Speaker 1: day you become a single mom, I will support you. 126 00:06:10,829 --> 00:06:14,299 Speaker 1: I love that love that, but I, I, I scared. 127 00:06:15,029 --> 00:06:20,350 Speaker 1: Her desire for a grandchild outweighs the need for a 128 00:06:20,350 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 1: complete family nuclear, but she doesn't care, but it was 129 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:25,230 Speaker 1: just very shocking to me. 130 00:06:25,541 --> 00:06:27,613 Speaker 1: It was also a sign that my mom was just 131 00:06:27,613 --> 00:06:30,251 Speaker 1: very supportive. Yeah, even if let's say I get into 132 00:06:30,252 --> 00:06:33,252 Speaker 1: trouble when I was in secondary school, I think she 133 00:06:33,252 --> 00:06:35,023 Speaker 1: has always been like there for me lah. 134 00:06:35,692 --> 00:06:37,933 Speaker 2: That's so cool. Yeah, I think same here. My mom 135 00:06:37,933 --> 00:06:41,173 Speaker 2: was always the one that was my cheerleader, basically getting 136 00:06:41,173 --> 00:06:45,851 Speaker 2: me into all the classes to explore hobbies like pottery 137 00:06:45,851 --> 00:06:47,732 Speaker 2: and then ballet, and then I quit like a lot 138 00:06:47,733 --> 00:06:50,972 Speaker 2: of those things whenever I was bored and she never 139 00:06:50,972 --> 00:06:53,053 Speaker 2: faulted me for it or like, I pay a school fee. 140 00:06:53,246 --> 00:06:54,955 Speaker 2: You better go and like force me, you know, I 141 00:06:54,955 --> 00:06:58,026 Speaker 2: think I'm very thankful that they were very understanding that way. 142 00:06:58,835 --> 00:07:00,515 Speaker 1: Do you guys have any funny stories about your mom? 143 00:07:00,635 --> 00:07:03,025 Speaker 1: She's not very funny. Oh, OK. 144 00:07:04,135 --> 00:07:08,385 Speaker 2: Uh, my, my mom is a very eccentric woman. She's, 145 00:07:08,395 --> 00:07:11,705 Speaker 2: imagine me, right, but if you're talking about the unhinged levels, 146 00:07:11,955 --> 00:07:14,436 Speaker 2: maybe times 10 a bit, and I remember there was 147 00:07:14,436 --> 00:07:16,476 Speaker 2: once when I was very young, um, she read my 148 00:07:16,476 --> 00:07:19,635 Speaker 2: diary without telling me. Then she tried to pass it 149 00:07:19,635 --> 00:07:20,906 Speaker 2: off as like a 150 00:07:21,829 --> 00:07:24,029 Speaker 2: I heard this story. So she's like, I heard this 151 00:07:24,029 --> 00:07:25,670 Speaker 2: story from my colleague the other day, you know, the 152 00:07:25,670 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 2: daughter had her first kiss. Then I was like, Oh random, 153 00:07:28,230 --> 00:07:32,630 Speaker 2: the timing is so coincidental. So, but I told you 154 00:07:32,630 --> 00:07:34,230 Speaker 2: my mom and I are very similar, right? So I 155 00:07:34,230 --> 00:07:36,940 Speaker 2: flipped the book. I said, Oh, is it? The other day, 156 00:07:37,019 --> 00:07:39,149 Speaker 2: I'm really very upset because my friend's mom went to 157 00:07:39,149 --> 00:07:41,230 Speaker 2: read her diary and it's so rude and it's such 158 00:07:41,230 --> 00:07:44,630 Speaker 2: an invasion of privacy. And then my mom was like, Hm, yeah, 159 00:07:44,709 --> 00:07:46,899 Speaker 2: that's that's not very nice. I would never do that. 160 00:07:46,950 --> 00:07:47,190 Speaker 2: I'm like. 161 00:07:47,989 --> 00:07:50,589 Speaker 1: OK, so you didn't end up like fighting lah. No, 162 00:07:50,630 --> 00:07:52,119 Speaker 1: we never, we just in this. Uh, my favorite memory 163 00:07:52,119 --> 00:08:03,709 Speaker 1: of my mom, if that was our favorite memory, that 164 00:08:03,709 --> 00:08:06,070 Speaker 1: was most cherished memory. My a funny memory of my 165 00:08:06,070 --> 00:08:08,309 Speaker 1: mom is when I was really young and then she 166 00:08:08,309 --> 00:08:10,869 Speaker 1: was busy washing the clothes, OK, she was like perspiring, 167 00:08:10,910 --> 00:08:13,829 Speaker 1: she was angry, she was like in the worst mood ever, right? 168 00:08:14,299 --> 00:08:17,450 Speaker 1: Then there was this Tyson, yeah, OK, uh, God of Fortune, 169 00:08:17,820 --> 00:08:19,579 Speaker 1: you know, like last time CNY then they will come 170 00:08:19,579 --> 00:08:21,980 Speaker 1: over to your house and they sell pens. Tyson come 171 00:08:21,980 --> 00:08:30,100 Speaker 1: to your house? Like someone dressed in Tyson, my s 172 00:08:30,100 --> 00:08:34,340 Speaker 1: for charity. OK, OK, so that's the it's really for. OK, so, 173 00:08:34,599 --> 00:08:36,299 Speaker 1: so I will show you the thing that 174 00:08:36,299 --> 00:08:36,988 Speaker 2: very different in 175 00:08:36,989 --> 00:08:37,489 Speaker 1: Jurong. 176 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:41,239 Speaker 1: I was so young. OK, I was like 6 or 7, 177 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:43,919 Speaker 1: and then this Tyson year really appeared, right? And then 178 00:08:43,919 --> 00:08:46,309 Speaker 1: in my head I'm like, OK, Tyson Y is here. 179 00:08:46,479 --> 00:08:48,630 Speaker 1: So I ran to my mom. She was washing her clothes. 180 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:52,719 Speaker 1: Tyson yeah Tyson. I was like, the God of Fortune 181 00:08:52,719 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 1: is here. Then she was like, You better not like 182 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 1: speak nonsense, OK? I'm telling you, ah, blasphemous. I'm so 183 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:01,239 Speaker 1: tired right now. I'm washing the clothes, right? You cannot see, 184 00:09:01,250 --> 00:09:03,580 Speaker 1: is it? Then I'm like, But Mommy Tyson here really 185 00:09:03,580 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 1: outside the. 186 00:09:04,015 --> 00:09:06,705 Speaker 1: After that, my dad really saw the Tyson year outside, 187 00:09:06,994 --> 00:09:09,994 Speaker 1: and he, he actually confirmed it. Then she was like, Oh, sorry. 188 00:09:10,674 --> 00:09:12,914 Speaker 2: No, I mean, to be honest, you're 6 year old 189 00:09:12,914 --> 00:09:13,905 Speaker 2: Tai is an elder. 190 00:09:14,875 --> 00:09:17,474 Speaker 1: She really thought I was pranking her till now she 191 00:09:17,474 --> 00:09:18,784 Speaker 1: will always apologize for 192 00:09:18,784 --> 00:09:21,973 Speaker 2: Tyson. So do you buy the pen? No, I think 193 00:09:21,974 --> 00:09:26,025 Speaker 1: she did. Yeah. My, my core memory is um when 194 00:09:26,025 --> 00:09:28,275 Speaker 1: you got ice cream uncle downstairs, right, when you used 195 00:09:28,275 --> 00:09:28,875 Speaker 1: to stay. 196 00:09:29,419 --> 00:09:33,250 Speaker 1: In uh Bukit Panjang, then downstairs like the HDB estate, 197 00:09:33,460 --> 00:09:37,098 Speaker 1: sometimes the van will come, then they will ring the bell, right? 198 00:09:37,460 --> 00:09:39,500 Speaker 1: Then she will give me $2 right? He said, go 199 00:09:39,500 --> 00:09:43,859 Speaker 1: then it's like, oh my God, like really like to 200 00:09:43,859 --> 00:09:45,900 Speaker 1: try and buy then so many times, right? I reached 201 00:09:45,900 --> 00:09:48,700 Speaker 1: downstairs because the lift last time quite slow right? I 202 00:09:48,700 --> 00:09:52,299 Speaker 1: missed the the ice cream. Oh yeah. 203 00:09:52,750 --> 00:09:54,459 Speaker 1: So actually, aside from your own mom, right, do you 204 00:09:54,460 --> 00:09:58,770 Speaker 1: have any other, um, motherly maternal figures in your life? 205 00:09:59,299 --> 00:10:03,099 Speaker 2: I do actually with um with marriage, we gain like 206 00:10:03,099 --> 00:10:06,099 Speaker 2: another mother. So I'm very close to my mother-in-law. I 207 00:10:06,099 --> 00:10:08,979 Speaker 2: speak to her almost every day. When I met my 208 00:10:08,979 --> 00:10:10,599 Speaker 2: mom-in-law now, she 209 00:10:10,650 --> 00:10:13,559 Speaker 2: Like I don't feel like I gained um like my 210 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 2: son's wife. I feel like I gained a daughter. She 211 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:18,770 Speaker 2: calls me her daughter. She doesn't even say daughter-in-law, and she, 212 00:10:18,799 --> 00:10:20,510 Speaker 2: when sometimes when I say mom-in-law, she's like, you don't 213 00:10:20,510 --> 00:10:21,630 Speaker 2: even say that. I'm just your mom. 214 00:10:22,479 --> 00:10:24,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, actually for me, right, quite interesting growing up I 215 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:27,229 Speaker 1: had 3. I always thought I had like 3 moms, 216 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:31,479 Speaker 1: so that's my mom, and then there's my, my babysitter 217 00:10:31,479 --> 00:10:34,109 Speaker 1: slash nanny. So my babysitter take care of me from 218 00:10:34,109 --> 00:10:36,319 Speaker 1: like when I was a few months old, um. 219 00:10:36,580 --> 00:10:38,849 Speaker 1: Yeah, so like, until I was quite old, I think 220 00:10:38,849 --> 00:10:44,289 Speaker 1: maybe like 18 years old throughout, um, up to I 221 00:10:44,289 --> 00:10:46,729 Speaker 1: think K1 or K2. So from the point I was 222 00:10:46,729 --> 00:10:48,309 Speaker 1: like right after I was born all the way until 223 00:10:48,309 --> 00:10:51,289 Speaker 1: then because both my parents were working. Oh my God, 224 00:10:51,330 --> 00:10:53,968 Speaker 1: you just triggered a memory for me. You also called babysitter. No, 225 00:10:54,049 --> 00:10:56,510 Speaker 1: I had a helper, yeah, and I call her mama. 226 00:10:57,450 --> 00:11:00,119 Speaker 1: I called my babysitter. Yeah, she was, she really was 227 00:11:00,119 --> 00:11:01,849 Speaker 1: like a mother figure to me and. 228 00:11:02,390 --> 00:11:05,010 Speaker 1: She raised me lah for the first maybe 78 years, 229 00:11:05,049 --> 00:11:07,940 Speaker 1: and I remember when she left, right, while I was 230 00:11:07,940 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 1: crying so hard. It's when you have to say goodbye 231 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:12,289 Speaker 1: and then she has to go back to the Philippines. 232 00:11:12,690 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 1: That was painful. I think our generation, a lot of 233 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 1: people have this like another figure which is your helper 234 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 2: like they know your secrets. 235 00:11:23,625 --> 00:11:25,934 Speaker 2: to be like my helper slept in my room and 236 00:11:25,934 --> 00:11:28,174 Speaker 2: I remember when we sent her off, I, I don't 237 00:11:28,174 --> 00:11:30,695 Speaker 2: think I've cried, you know, the drama like we turned 238 00:11:30,695 --> 00:11:32,494 Speaker 2: around in the car, and then you see the, the 239 00:11:32,494 --> 00:11:34,965 Speaker 2: ice cream tower, you know, the, the Changi Airport tower. 240 00:11:35,205 --> 00:11:36,534 Speaker 2: I remember looking at that and then it just got 241 00:11:36,534 --> 00:11:38,614 Speaker 2: blurry and blurry because my eyes were just like 242 00:11:38,614 --> 00:11:39,284 Speaker 2: foggy, 243 00:11:39,375 --> 00:11:42,054 Speaker 1: and then I reunited with her actually when I was 244 00:11:42,054 --> 00:11:42,765 Speaker 1: around 18. 245 00:11:46,409 --> 00:11:48,530 Speaker 1: She, she came back to Singapore and then she came 246 00:11:48,530 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 1: to visit us. Oh, that's so nice. I still see my, 247 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:55,489 Speaker 1: my mama every Chinese New Year. Yeah, I'll go and visit. 248 00:11:56,409 --> 00:12:00,559 Speaker 1: Then my, my third mother figure is my godmom who 249 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:03,710 Speaker 1: is my actually my aunt. So I had a few 250 00:12:03,710 --> 00:12:06,089 Speaker 1: of them growing up, but then when I married Jess, 251 00:12:06,130 --> 00:12:09,130 Speaker 1: actually I'm quite close to my mother-in-law. So because Jess 252 00:12:09,130 --> 00:12:10,690 Speaker 1: is super close to her mom. 253 00:12:11,239 --> 00:12:14,959 Speaker 1: So then I see my, my mom-in-law, I think more 254 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:17,919 Speaker 1: than my mom, and then she will be like really 255 00:12:17,919 --> 00:12:19,839 Speaker 1: hyper focused on taking care of us and all her 256 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:23,070 Speaker 1: children lah. So she will always like bake bread for us, 257 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:26,119 Speaker 1: then she will come and drop, drop off bread. She 258 00:12:26,119 --> 00:12:27,919 Speaker 1: will also always be the one that's like when I'm sick, 259 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:29,710 Speaker 1: then Jess was kind of mention that, oh yeah, Nick 260 00:12:29,710 --> 00:12:31,159 Speaker 1: is not feeling well, then she will message me, how 261 00:12:31,159 --> 00:12:32,500 Speaker 1: are you feeling today? that kind of thing. 262 00:12:33,190 --> 00:12:35,969 Speaker 1: Yeah, sweet. So yeah, it's quite nice. Now I got 263 00:12:35,969 --> 00:12:38,098 Speaker 1: like 4 months. That's a lot. That's a lot, not 264 00:12:38,099 --> 00:12:41,409 Speaker 1: a flex lah, but with the expression, not a flex 265 00:12:41,409 --> 00:12:43,239 Speaker 1: but just a little bit lah. Do you think it's 266 00:12:43,239 --> 00:12:44,869 Speaker 1: important to be close to your mother-in-law? I think. 267 00:12:45,299 --> 00:12:48,890 Speaker 2: OK, I think it is a plus, but it's not 268 00:12:49,140 --> 00:12:50,940 Speaker 2: definitive of a good marriage. Yeah, 269 00:12:51,179 --> 00:12:55,059 Speaker 1: agreed. Yeah, I think sometimes cannot means cannot, but I 270 00:12:55,059 --> 00:12:57,429 Speaker 1: feel like to me it's important that I 271 00:12:57,929 --> 00:12:59,799 Speaker 1: I put in the effort to try and be close la. 272 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:05,049 Speaker 1: What's the bare minimum of having a decent relationship with them? 273 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:05,709 Speaker 2: I 274 00:13:05,710 --> 00:13:06,719 Speaker 2: think not. 275 00:13:07,940 --> 00:13:08,559 Speaker 2: Pegro. 276 00:13:08,809 --> 00:13:10,229 Speaker 1: Oh, that's very, 277 00:13:10,690 --> 00:13:13,079 Speaker 2: no, because I dated someone and one of my biggest 278 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:15,609 Speaker 2: worries was always, I don't know how we can get 279 00:13:15,609 --> 00:13:16,969 Speaker 2: married with 280 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:21,599 Speaker 2: My standing relationship with his mom because she was quite 281 00:13:21,599 --> 00:13:25,969 Speaker 2: nasty towards you. Yeah, and even his aunts were like, hey, 282 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 2: why is your mom acting this way? So it will 283 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:31,049 Speaker 2: hurt because it is your partner's mom, you know what 284 00:13:31,049 --> 00:13:32,919 Speaker 2: I mean, any of the day you can see the 285 00:13:32,919 --> 00:13:35,799 Speaker 2: discrepancies and you also want to assure that I'm not 286 00:13:35,799 --> 00:13:40,150 Speaker 2: replacing you. I am simply your your child's partner. 287 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:43,239 Speaker 1: I think the bare minimum for mother-in-law or like in-laws 288 00:13:43,239 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: the relationship wise is that they need to respect. 289 00:13:45,729 --> 00:13:48,039 Speaker 1: They don't need to agree with your decisions, but they 290 00:13:48,039 --> 00:13:51,739 Speaker 1: must respect your decisions, especially when it's like subjective things, 291 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:54,079 Speaker 1: you know, it's not like, not like you're breaking a 292 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:56,570 Speaker 1: law or something, but like having kids. Your 293 00:13:56,570 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 2: furniture choices 294 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:00,309 Speaker 1: where I want to stay, how you cook, yeah, that 295 00:14:00,309 --> 00:14:00,599 Speaker 1: sort of thing, 296 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:01,630 Speaker 2: whether you have a pet. 297 00:14:01,719 --> 00:14:03,358 Speaker 1: So now that we are in our 30s, how do 298 00:14:03,359 --> 00:14:06,119 Speaker 1: you all spend time with your moms? Mother's Day, Father's Day, 299 00:14:06,359 --> 00:14:08,799 Speaker 1: everybody's birthday, then we will hang out. Um, if not, 300 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:11,200 Speaker 1: then occasionally I'll just be like a family dinner this weekend, 301 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 1: then usually they are not always me lah. 302 00:14:15,380 --> 00:14:18,449 Speaker 1: Yeah. I spent time with my mom in the kitchen, 303 00:14:18,849 --> 00:14:22,409 Speaker 1: in the corridor and in her bedroom every day she's 304 00:14:22,409 --> 00:14:26,489 Speaker 1: watching dramas. So every morning I'm like, morning, then we'll 305 00:14:26,489 --> 00:14:29,010 Speaker 1: just like talk a bit in the kitchen then during 306 00:14:29,010 --> 00:14:31,679 Speaker 1: lunchtime also we'll just chat with her. So it's like 307 00:14:31,679 --> 00:14:34,750 Speaker 1: pockets of time instead of, you know, sitting down having 308 00:14:34,750 --> 00:14:36,799 Speaker 1: a meal because my family doesn't really have that. 309 00:14:37,369 --> 00:14:41,559 Speaker 1: Habit of, yeah, in the recent years, in the recent years, 310 00:14:42,119 --> 00:14:44,849 Speaker 1: sometimes we gossip about other family members. Oh yeah, actually 311 00:14:44,849 --> 00:14:48,900 Speaker 1: that was my favorite pastime. Yeah, yeah, I think that's 312 00:14:48,900 --> 00:14:51,130 Speaker 1: the thing that I my conversations with my mom, I 313 00:14:51,130 --> 00:14:54,119 Speaker 1: think those are the ones I enjoy the most. Yeah, yeah, 314 00:14:54,450 --> 00:14:57,719 Speaker 1: common enemy is really then, OK, so she a bit judgy. 315 00:15:00,953 --> 00:15:05,963 Speaker 1: It's like that. So then we like have the same 316 00:15:05,963 --> 00:15:10,372 Speaker 1: views on same people and same behavior, yeah, yeah yeah 317 00:15:10,393 --> 00:15:12,372 Speaker 1: yeah yeah I love that. So like that that is 318 00:15:12,372 --> 00:15:14,963 Speaker 1: uh yeah, something that we share and I hold quite 319 00:15:14,963 --> 00:15:15,653 Speaker 1: dear to my heart. 320 00:15:17,882 --> 00:15:20,273 Speaker 2: I love that. I see my mom once in a while. 321 00:15:20,362 --> 00:15:22,953 Speaker 2: I will go for maybe a massage, a lunch. 322 00:15:23,526 --> 00:15:26,986 Speaker 2: Of like shopping, yeah, we try and see each other 323 00:15:26,986 --> 00:15:29,156 Speaker 2: at least a couple of times a year outside of 324 00:15:29,156 --> 00:15:32,635 Speaker 2: family lunches and dinners. I feel like now that we 325 00:15:32,635 --> 00:15:34,565 Speaker 2: are approaching, I mean we're all in our 30s, 0 326 00:15:34,565 --> 00:15:36,375 Speaker 2: my God, we're all in our 30s. Now that we're OK, 327 00:15:37,116 --> 00:15:40,585 Speaker 2: soon she's 30 this year. Don't say that. Now that 328 00:15:40,585 --> 00:15:43,075 Speaker 2: we're in our 30s, you know, I did have a 329 00:15:43,075 --> 00:15:45,395 Speaker 2: conversation with my mom last year just saying, I know 330 00:15:45,395 --> 00:15:49,195 Speaker 2: we've been through a lot and there's not much time. 331 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:51,169 Speaker 2: Like in like for us, I don't know when I'm 332 00:15:51,169 --> 00:15:54,169 Speaker 2: going to move. I don't want anything to happen and 333 00:15:54,169 --> 00:15:56,340 Speaker 2: for us to have any regrets. I don't want to 334 00:15:56,340 --> 00:15:57,190 Speaker 2: have any regrets. 335 00:15:57,710 --> 00:16:00,099 Speaker 2: So I really just kind of just said like there's 336 00:16:00,099 --> 00:16:02,219 Speaker 2: no point hopping on the past, like we both have 337 00:16:02,219 --> 00:16:06,099 Speaker 2: our own versions of the truth and they both can coexist. 338 00:16:06,580 --> 00:16:08,859 Speaker 2: So let's just move forward with the same goal of 339 00:16:08,859 --> 00:16:11,299 Speaker 2: just having a relationship and I think that really helped 340 00:16:11,299 --> 00:16:14,380 Speaker 2: us move forward as well. And then now we have 341 00:16:14,380 --> 00:16:17,359 Speaker 2: a pretty healthy and um I don't want to say 342 00:16:17,359 --> 00:16:20,169 Speaker 2: cordial because it is quite loving still, yeah. 343 00:16:20,340 --> 00:16:22,780 Speaker 1: I realized that my mom and I don't really have 344 00:16:22,780 --> 00:16:26,330 Speaker 1: very deep conversations in the recent years as well, so 345 00:16:26,419 --> 00:16:26,630 Speaker 1: I 346 00:16:26,679 --> 00:16:29,349 Speaker 1: I bought this book for her. It says, what was 347 00:16:29,349 --> 00:16:32,830 Speaker 1: the title? I can't remember the title of the book. No, 348 00:16:32,869 --> 00:16:36,020 Speaker 1: it's actually a journal. OK, like, tell me your story, 349 00:16:36,270 --> 00:16:39,020 Speaker 1: something like that. And then every single page there are questions. 350 00:16:39,650 --> 00:16:41,989 Speaker 1: It's an ad on Instagram and then I was like, OK, 351 00:16:42,049 --> 00:16:44,190 Speaker 1: if my mom don't want to have deep conversations with me, 352 00:16:44,229 --> 00:16:45,950 Speaker 1: I'm gonna make her write write them down as if 353 00:16:45,950 --> 00:16:48,580 Speaker 1: it's a journal entry. So I gave her the task 354 00:16:48,580 --> 00:16:51,750 Speaker 1: of finishing it by next year. I don't think she 355 00:16:51,750 --> 00:16:53,229 Speaker 1: has started. Actually that's quite a good idea. I feel 356 00:16:53,229 --> 00:16:54,690 Speaker 1: like I should do that because every time I ask 357 00:16:54,690 --> 00:16:55,510 Speaker 1: my parents, right. 358 00:16:56,099 --> 00:16:59,909 Speaker 1: About, um, my grandparents, they don't know anything. Yeah, so 359 00:16:59,909 --> 00:17:01,809 Speaker 1: that's the point. I want, I want to make sure 360 00:17:01,809 --> 00:17:05,130 Speaker 1: that I know things about her when she passes and 361 00:17:05,130 --> 00:17:07,959 Speaker 1: eventually I want to have that memory la. Yeah, 362 00:17:08,050 --> 00:17:08,709 Speaker 2: that's so nice. 363 00:17:09,050 --> 00:17:12,449 Speaker 1: So actually has your relationship with your mom changed over 364 00:17:12,449 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 1: the years? 365 00:17:13,170 --> 00:17:16,319 Speaker 2: I think they, they are our moms, sometimes I forget 366 00:17:16,319 --> 00:17:19,099 Speaker 2: that they like my mom is a woman who has 367 00:17:19,829 --> 00:17:22,550 Speaker 2: Been experiencing the world for the first time just like 368 00:17:22,550 --> 00:17:24,630 Speaker 2: I am, and they always say like, you know, I 369 00:17:24,630 --> 00:17:27,510 Speaker 2: used to be a teenage girl like you, but I 370 00:17:27,510 --> 00:17:30,629 Speaker 2: never really understood that until now I'm at the age 371 00:17:30,630 --> 00:17:34,030 Speaker 2: where I'm considering motherhood and I realized that my mom 372 00:17:34,030 --> 00:17:35,629 Speaker 2: was a young mom, like she had me when she 373 00:17:35,630 --> 00:17:38,430 Speaker 2: was 22 and she got married at 21 and I 374 00:17:38,430 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 2: cannot imagine doing that. Like even if I add 5 years, 375 00:17:42,150 --> 00:17:43,069 Speaker 2: I can't imagine. 376 00:17:43,510 --> 00:17:46,389 Speaker 2: Being like, like doing that. We, we are still kids. Yeah, 377 00:17:46,829 --> 00:17:49,750 Speaker 2: I mean I can't even imagine being a mom. So 378 00:17:49,750 --> 00:17:53,069 Speaker 2: when I look back now at how, you know, she 379 00:17:53,069 --> 00:17:55,390 Speaker 2: showed up for me as a mom, she really made 380 00:17:55,390 --> 00:17:57,670 Speaker 2: sure that I really had the freedom to be who 381 00:17:57,670 --> 00:18:01,030 Speaker 2: I wanted to be and I realized that maybe I 382 00:18:01,030 --> 00:18:03,170 Speaker 2: was a little bit too harsh on 383 00:18:03,469 --> 00:18:06,390 Speaker 2: I don't want to say her her shortcomings, but you know, 384 00:18:06,420 --> 00:18:09,339 Speaker 2: where she fell short of the ideal mom because we really, 385 00:18:09,540 --> 00:18:11,540 Speaker 2: I feel like we do put our moms on a 386 00:18:11,540 --> 00:18:14,420 Speaker 2: pedestal sometimes and you are my mom, you cannot do this, 387 00:18:14,459 --> 00:18:16,459 Speaker 2: you have to do this, and like society also put 388 00:18:16,459 --> 00:18:19,859 Speaker 2: so much pressure on on moms to be perfect and 389 00:18:19,859 --> 00:18:21,540 Speaker 2: be there. They have to be the best wife, they 390 00:18:21,540 --> 00:18:23,900 Speaker 2: have to be the best daughter and a sister and 391 00:18:23,900 --> 00:18:25,829 Speaker 2: then your mom and then be a woman. There's so 392 00:18:25,829 --> 00:18:27,420 Speaker 2: much to juggle. So. 393 00:18:27,869 --> 00:18:30,540 Speaker 2: It really hit me in the most like recent years 394 00:18:30,540 --> 00:18:32,979 Speaker 2: only that my mom is her own woman and there 395 00:18:32,979 --> 00:18:34,780 Speaker 2: are many things that she might not have been able 396 00:18:34,780 --> 00:18:38,390 Speaker 2: to explore because she had to give it up and 397 00:18:38,390 --> 00:18:39,770 Speaker 2: be a mom at such a young age. 398 00:18:40,099 --> 00:18:42,619 Speaker 1: I've always felt a bit sorry for my mom, as 399 00:18:42,619 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 1: in I think she never regretted having kids, but 400 00:18:45,739 --> 00:18:47,889 Speaker 1: I feel like she never got to live her best 401 00:18:47,890 --> 00:18:51,649 Speaker 1: life in terms of exploring the world. She's a traveler, 402 00:18:51,729 --> 00:18:55,680 Speaker 1: you know, she's adventurous. And then I think at this age, she, 403 00:18:55,770 --> 00:18:59,880 Speaker 1: she's just going with the flow ebb and flow, um, 404 00:19:00,050 --> 00:19:02,169 Speaker 1: but I feel like there's so much potential for her 405 00:19:02,170 --> 00:19:05,329 Speaker 1: to explore different things in life, whether it's new hobbies 406 00:19:05,329 --> 00:19:07,609 Speaker 1: or or just traveling because I did tell you all 407 00:19:07,609 --> 00:19:09,649 Speaker 1: that I want to bring her to Iceland, right? So 408 00:19:09,650 --> 00:19:11,438 Speaker 1: that was actually a suggestion last year. 409 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:13,919 Speaker 1: She said no. Oh, I didn't tell you about it. 410 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:17,400 Speaker 1: I decided not to do it. I think she was 411 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:22,339 Speaker 1: just very considerate about my expenses. I did feel quite 412 00:19:22,339 --> 00:19:25,079 Speaker 1: sad that she chose not to go lah. So I 413 00:19:25,079 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 1: think in different ways I I do try to like 414 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 1: Convince her to go on shorter trips. 415 00:19:30,079 --> 00:19:32,198 Speaker 2: Sometimes with moms, right, you need to play a bit 416 00:19:32,199 --> 00:19:34,719 Speaker 2: of like it's more practical. Yeah, you'd be like, actually 417 00:19:34,719 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 2: I'm feeling very down, can you, can you go with me? Yeah, 418 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:40,400 Speaker 2: then she'd be like, I need to take care of 419 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:42,310 Speaker 2: my daughter. Then actually you're like, 420 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 1: I feel like deep down they are just a little girl. 421 00:19:45,854 --> 00:19:47,685 Speaker 1: They want to feel needed, and they, they want to 422 00:19:47,685 --> 00:19:50,005 Speaker 1: feel important and I feel like sometimes we we tend 423 00:19:50,005 --> 00:19:53,204 Speaker 1: to dismiss that, especially when they age. Yeah, I think 424 00:19:53,204 --> 00:19:55,444 Speaker 1: for me, right, if I were to just flip it around, 425 00:19:55,525 --> 00:19:59,244 Speaker 1: so OK, I'm sharing a new thing. I'm not the 426 00:19:59,244 --> 00:20:02,564 Speaker 1: oldest child. Yeah, what do you mean? So my mom 427 00:20:02,564 --> 00:20:05,724 Speaker 1: had twins before me. The pregnancy didn't go well. 428 00:20:06,310 --> 00:20:10,709 Speaker 1: Then one like died in the womb. Then the other 429 00:20:10,709 --> 00:20:15,319 Speaker 1: one actually was born, uh, very premature, had a heartbeat, 430 00:20:15,390 --> 00:20:17,189 Speaker 1: and actually like my dad always say he still remember 431 00:20:17,189 --> 00:20:20,829 Speaker 1: like she hold his finger, yeah, but then passed away 432 00:20:20,829 --> 00:20:24,149 Speaker 1: in ICU. So then after when they had me, right. 433 00:20:24,569 --> 00:20:27,790 Speaker 1: I always feel like what has not changed, right, with 434 00:20:27,790 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 1: my relationship with my parents as like I got older 435 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:32,478 Speaker 1: is that they always made me feel very special when 436 00:20:32,479 --> 00:20:34,920 Speaker 1: I meet them, right, then they will always like be 437 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:37,319 Speaker 1: very proud of me and and they do that for 438 00:20:37,319 --> 00:20:40,310 Speaker 1: my siblings so la, but they will say things like, 439 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:43,729 Speaker 1: so you got PM on the podcast, that kind of 440 00:20:43,729 --> 00:20:46,199 Speaker 1: thing or I just found out, right, like. 441 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:49,270 Speaker 1: They were suddenly low key make references to very old 442 00:20:49,270 --> 00:20:51,640 Speaker 1: YouTube videos that I was in, you know, like, oh, 443 00:20:51,670 --> 00:20:53,708 Speaker 1: last time you go to this country, then I didn't 444 00:20:53,709 --> 00:20:56,229 Speaker 1: even know that they, of course I don't share like 445 00:20:56,229 --> 00:20:58,349 Speaker 1: these videos with them, right? It's not like AI inside 446 00:20:58,349 --> 00:20:59,069 Speaker 1: this you watch. 447 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:02,109 Speaker 1: But then they were, they were going. No, I my 448 00:21:02,109 --> 00:21:04,920 Speaker 1: mom watching my videos sometimes like last time in the past, 449 00:21:05,790 --> 00:21:07,629 Speaker 1: I can hear my voice. Then she'll just skip to 450 00:21:07,630 --> 00:21:11,709 Speaker 1: the parts where I'm just talking. Then she like laughing 451 00:21:11,709 --> 00:21:16,050 Speaker 1: I'm watching, watching so yeah it's cute, it's cute. 452 00:21:16,430 --> 00:21:19,500 Speaker 2: So on this topic, do you guys have any regrets 453 00:21:19,500 --> 00:21:22,469 Speaker 2: or things that you wish you never said or did 454 00:21:22,469 --> 00:21:23,188 Speaker 2: with your mom? 455 00:21:23,349 --> 00:21:27,430 Speaker 1: I always remember that like I argued with her. 456 00:21:28,189 --> 00:21:31,540 Speaker 1: Quite badly over my one of the helpers that I had. 457 00:21:32,349 --> 00:21:36,229 Speaker 1: So I thought that she was emotionally abusive and like 458 00:21:36,229 --> 00:21:39,459 Speaker 1: verbally abusive. Now I'll just be complaining to my mom 459 00:21:39,459 --> 00:21:43,810 Speaker 1: about it. Um, like, why do you put up with this? 460 00:21:43,869 --> 00:21:47,010 Speaker 1: Like why are you putting your children through like this experience? 461 00:21:47,069 --> 00:21:49,949 Speaker 1: Then like we had quite a bad argument, um, but 462 00:21:49,949 --> 00:21:52,468 Speaker 1: now looking, looking back, then I realized that because she 463 00:21:52,469 --> 00:21:54,729 Speaker 1: was working, my dad was working, if we were to 464 00:21:55,189 --> 00:21:56,869 Speaker 1: change helpers, it was like 465 00:21:57,339 --> 00:21:59,739 Speaker 1: Very draining for her. So if I put myself in 466 00:21:59,739 --> 00:22:00,959 Speaker 1: her shoes now where 467 00:22:01,609 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 1: With like my work schedule, I still feel that it 468 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 1: was needed to be done, but I understand a bit 469 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:11,369 Speaker 1: more lah yeah. Something very silly was when I was 470 00:22:11,369 --> 00:22:14,650 Speaker 1: 13 I dated an A boyfriend. I mean, sorry, I 471 00:22:14,650 --> 00:22:17,640 Speaker 1: had an A boyfriend, right? And then I was quite a, 472 00:22:18,010 --> 00:22:24,050 Speaker 1: I just had a bad lah, OK, with friends. I 473 00:22:24,050 --> 00:22:25,880 Speaker 1: got a I just last time I got one. I 474 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 1: had a phase, OK, um, and then. 475 00:22:28,949 --> 00:22:33,540 Speaker 1: The principal and headmaster called my parents down. It was 476 00:22:33,540 --> 00:22:37,020 Speaker 1: like a whole big thing. I cried. My parents stared 477 00:22:37,020 --> 00:22:41,780 Speaker 1: at me with such disappointing eyes, and my mom had 478 00:22:41,780 --> 00:22:45,239 Speaker 1: to secretly follow me around for like the next few weeks. 479 00:22:47,540 --> 00:22:48,780 Speaker 1: And then she you know she following you. I know, 480 00:22:48,900 --> 00:22:50,540 Speaker 1: and I was very angry about it because like, oh 481 00:22:50,540 --> 00:22:52,880 Speaker 1: my God, you're embarrassing me, mommy. Like my friends can 482 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:55,379 Speaker 1: see you, OK. She was trying to do it very. 483 00:22:55,880 --> 00:23:00,530 Speaker 1: Discreetly, um, just to make sure that I wasn't mixing 484 00:23:00,530 --> 00:23:02,689 Speaker 1: with the wrong crowd lah so how you like after 485 00:23:02,689 --> 00:23:04,729 Speaker 1: school she just be outside your school. No, she's like 486 00:23:04,729 --> 00:23:08,409 Speaker 1: hidden in the blocks. My mom is a PI. No, 487 00:23:08,810 --> 00:23:11,650 Speaker 1: it's also a very, uh, iconic story for my whole 488 00:23:11,650 --> 00:23:13,479 Speaker 1: family because she also followed my brother and my sister. 489 00:23:13,650 --> 00:23:16,969 Speaker 1: All three of us had a bad face, so I really, 490 00:23:17,130 --> 00:23:19,050 Speaker 1: I think the three of us really regret putting our 491 00:23:19,050 --> 00:23:19,479 Speaker 1: mom 492 00:23:20,130 --> 00:23:21,849 Speaker 2: mom is a housewife, but she's a PI. She is 493 00:23:21,849 --> 00:23:22,209 Speaker 2: a PI. 494 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:22,458 Speaker 1: She's 495 00:23:22,459 --> 00:23:22,719 Speaker 2: a PI. 496 00:23:22,839 --> 00:23:25,449 Speaker 1: She damn good, you know, suddenly can appear in the arcade. 497 00:23:25,685 --> 00:23:27,025 Speaker 1: Then she's like, I caught you. 498 00:23:29,324 --> 00:23:29,425 Speaker 1: She 499 00:23:35,074 --> 00:23:35,194 Speaker 1: she hiding behind like hiding behind the one that the 500 00:23:35,194 --> 00:23:36,354 Speaker 1: biyboshi and then yeah, and she know that my brother 501 00:23:36,354 --> 00:23:38,675 Speaker 1: played through and then go play basketball. She knows everything. 502 00:23:38,864 --> 00:23:40,685 Speaker 1: It's more like back to back to back to back. 503 00:23:40,724 --> 00:23:43,285 Speaker 1: My brother 5 years older than me. My sister 3 504 00:23:43,285 --> 00:23:45,114 Speaker 1: years older than me. So by the time I reached you, 505 00:23:45,125 --> 00:23:48,604 Speaker 1: she quite seasoned she very good. She 506 00:23:48,604 --> 00:23:49,603 Speaker 2: was like, I know where to go. I 507 00:23:49,604 --> 00:23:49,935 Speaker 1: know what to do. 508 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:56,219 Speaker 2: I actually I don't really have any regrets, but talking 509 00:23:56,219 --> 00:23:59,229 Speaker 2: about this, right, I was bullied in primary school. They 510 00:23:59,229 --> 00:24:00,670 Speaker 2: put like staple bullets in my hair, my hair, and, 511 00:24:02,619 --> 00:24:05,099 Speaker 2: and my mom, OK, at first she brought it up 512 00:24:05,099 --> 00:24:07,589 Speaker 2: with the principal and they didn't do anything about it, 513 00:24:07,910 --> 00:24:11,670 Speaker 2: so she decided enough is enough. I'm going to go 514 00:24:11,670 --> 00:24:13,449 Speaker 2: down to the school and she called all the 515 00:24:13,494 --> 00:24:17,194 Speaker 2: The people involved to the office. I remember this moment 516 00:24:17,194 --> 00:24:20,645 Speaker 2: because my mom was sitting there and I remember her 517 00:24:20,645 --> 00:24:22,645 Speaker 2: looking at my vice principal and saying, if you're not 518 00:24:22,645 --> 00:24:25,005 Speaker 2: going to do anything about this, my daughter is not 519 00:24:25,005 --> 00:24:27,564 Speaker 2: going to take PSLE next year and if MOE ask 520 00:24:27,564 --> 00:24:29,454 Speaker 2: me why, I'll tell them because this school is useless. 521 00:24:30,204 --> 00:24:31,375 Speaker 2: I remember saying that I'm 522 00:24:31,375 --> 00:24:33,484 Speaker 1: like, that's my mother. Yeah, you 523 00:24:33,484 --> 00:24:36,125 Speaker 2: know, and then it's funny because one of the boys 524 00:24:36,125 --> 00:24:38,525 Speaker 2: that can put, he was like the henchman, right? 525 00:24:39,030 --> 00:24:41,379 Speaker 2: It was his birthday that day and then one of 526 00:24:41,380 --> 00:24:44,540 Speaker 2: the girls that were were like bullying me, right, she said, Auntie, 527 00:24:44,619 --> 00:24:47,530 Speaker 2: it's his birthday today. I don't care if it's your birthday. 528 00:24:47,739 --> 00:24:50,500 Speaker 2: Who wants to go and bully my daughter? And I 529 00:24:50,500 --> 00:24:52,260 Speaker 2: remember in that moment I'm like, well, my mom would 530 00:24:52,260 --> 00:24:53,979 Speaker 2: really do anything to. 531 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,160 Speaker 2: Protect me and I think that's what your mom was 532 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 2: trying to do as well. It was like protection and 533 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,359 Speaker 2: just making sure that she was in as much control 534 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:02,109 Speaker 2: as possible. 535 00:25:03,430 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 1: So now, right, as an adult, do you still turn 536 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:07,790 Speaker 1: to your mom for support or advice? 537 00:25:07,959 --> 00:25:08,079 Speaker 2: My 538 00:25:08,079 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 2: mom-in-law, I do. 539 00:25:09,510 --> 00:25:11,979 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think because I talked to her on an 540 00:25:11,979 --> 00:25:15,339 Speaker 2: almost everyday basis, maybe not necessarily to ask for advice, 541 00:25:15,420 --> 00:25:18,219 Speaker 2: but she definitely offers a lot of emotional support for me. 542 00:25:18,500 --> 00:25:21,180 Speaker 2: Like when I'm renting or spilling the tea, she's the 543 00:25:21,180 --> 00:25:24,020 Speaker 2: one that will be on the, oh my God, like 544 00:25:24,020 --> 00:25:27,649 Speaker 2: she really reacts with me and and kind of shares 545 00:25:27,650 --> 00:25:29,419 Speaker 2: like the burdens. Yeah. 546 00:25:29,540 --> 00:25:32,390 Speaker 1: I wouldn't say I seek advice from her because 547 00:25:32,819 --> 00:25:35,530 Speaker 1: I feel like she can't really relate to our struggles, 548 00:25:35,619 --> 00:25:38,649 Speaker 1: but no matter what they have lived through multiple experiences 549 00:25:38,650 --> 00:25:41,680 Speaker 1: to share some insights with us, you know what I mean? Yeah. 550 00:25:41,819 --> 00:25:44,969 Speaker 1: I think you all also know my baseline requirement for 551 00:25:44,969 --> 00:25:48,150 Speaker 1: emotional support is quite low, low maintenance. Yeah, I don't 552 00:25:48,150 --> 00:25:49,930 Speaker 1: really need emotional support from anyone. 553 00:25:52,229 --> 00:25:54,629 Speaker 1: I think sometimes I, I ask them about like the 554 00:25:54,630 --> 00:25:57,390 Speaker 1: decisions that they made when they were our age, just 555 00:25:57,390 --> 00:26:00,349 Speaker 1: so I have like the different perspective la because there 556 00:26:00,349 --> 00:26:03,188 Speaker 1: are a lot of times when I'm about to make 557 00:26:03,189 --> 00:26:05,829 Speaker 1: a decision and I'm like so 100% sure. 558 00:26:06,369 --> 00:26:09,250 Speaker 1: About it, right, then I feel like, OK, I just 559 00:26:09,250 --> 00:26:11,849 Speaker 1: check a bit, do a bit of due diligence. I 560 00:26:11,849 --> 00:26:15,640 Speaker 1: am thinking of doing this. Last time when you encountered this, 561 00:26:15,849 --> 00:26:19,109 Speaker 1: why did you decide on like a certain action? 562 00:26:19,170 --> 00:26:22,969 Speaker 2: I noticed like when I was a bit older that 563 00:26:22,969 --> 00:26:25,459 Speaker 2: when if I'm crying and my mom hugs me, right, 564 00:26:25,530 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 2: I cry harder, like you really feel completely safe. 565 00:26:30,030 --> 00:26:31,889 Speaker 2: And you can let go and then you feel like 566 00:26:31,890 --> 00:26:33,319 Speaker 2: a baby again and then I'm like, oh my God, 567 00:26:33,369 --> 00:26:34,920 Speaker 2: what just happened? I don't like 568 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:38,130 Speaker 1: that I got no recollection of a childhood hug. I'm 569 00:26:38,130 --> 00:26:41,849 Speaker 1: sure it happened lah, but like it did not form 570 00:26:41,849 --> 00:26:44,369 Speaker 1: part of my core memories from my childhood. Let's look 571 00:26:44,369 --> 00:26:44,890 Speaker 1: through your photo 572 00:26:44,890 --> 00:26:45,069 Speaker 1: album. 573 00:26:45,250 --> 00:26:47,478 Speaker 2: He was probably already in like business poses 574 00:26:47,479 --> 00:26:47,489 Speaker 1: like 575 00:26:47,489 --> 00:26:52,349 Speaker 1: 2 years old 30 30 33. 576 00:26:55,390 --> 00:26:56,170 Speaker 1: Question 577 00:26:56,959 --> 00:26:57,920 Speaker 1: But 578 00:26:57,920 --> 00:26:58,670 Speaker 2: very nice base. 579 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:00,979 Speaker 1: If you switch bodies with your mom for a day, 580 00:27:01,079 --> 00:27:04,359 Speaker 1: what would you do? Freaky Friday. I would go climb 581 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 1: and jump off 582 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:06,920 Speaker 2: waterfalls in 583 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:07,910 Speaker 2: your mother's body. She's like, 584 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:08,060 Speaker 1: why? No, you know, right about my mom. Yeah yeah 585 00:27:13,959 --> 00:27:16,189 Speaker 1: yeah yeah yeah. My mom is a hiker last time 586 00:27:16,189 --> 00:27:18,880 Speaker 1: and then she, she jumped off waterfall. She's she's just 587 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,198 Speaker 1: an adventurous girl. That's where you got it from lah. 588 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:22,119 Speaker 1: But I don't want to jump off. 589 00:27:22,410 --> 00:27:24,489 Speaker 1: For in this body. Can I just say that over 590 00:27:24,489 --> 00:27:26,688 Speaker 1: the weekend, right, I went to a waterfall and I 591 00:27:26,689 --> 00:27:28,689 Speaker 1: was supposed to jump off but then I I can tell, 592 00:27:29,449 --> 00:27:32,849 Speaker 1: but but I jumped off that same waterfall. So I 593 00:27:32,849 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 1: think it's mortality. Yeah. 594 00:27:34,489 --> 00:27:38,959 Speaker 2: Would your mom have a nickname if she became a grandmother? OK, 595 00:27:39,130 --> 00:27:43,050 Speaker 2: this is like a long standing argument in my family 596 00:27:43,050 --> 00:27:45,290 Speaker 2: with Charlie and her mom because I want my kid 597 00:27:45,530 --> 00:27:47,689 Speaker 2: to call her Memo and she's like, we're not. 598 00:27:48,599 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 2: I'm like she's going to call you Memo. I don't 599 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 1: care. That's the thing, yeah, is 600 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:54,910 Speaker 2: a very like Texan like Southern thing. 601 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:55,709 Speaker 1: Then they want what? 602 00:27:55,810 --> 00:27:57,599 Speaker 2: I don't know. I want Memo and Pop Pop. That's 603 00:27:57,599 --> 00:27:57,958 Speaker 2: all I want. 604 00:27:58,079 --> 00:28:00,639 Speaker 1: I think, I think is quite good. You want your 605 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 1: child to 606 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:01,119 Speaker 2: call 607 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:01,238 Speaker 1: your 608 00:28:01,239 --> 00:28:01,879 Speaker 2: mother Mochi. 609 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,469 Speaker 1: OK. If you could make a Lego build of anything, 610 00:28:06,079 --> 00:28:08,239 Speaker 1: what would it be? Perfect question for Nick. I know. OK, 611 00:28:08,300 --> 00:28:11,109 Speaker 1: we know he's you la. I would actually not a 612 00:28:11,109 --> 00:28:11,129 Speaker 1: bad idea. 613 00:28:16,469 --> 00:28:21,389 Speaker 1: I want a Lego Enfield, which is the Liverpool stadium. Oh, 614 00:28:21,439 --> 00:28:26,660 Speaker 1: I thought. I'm like, Enfield. 615 00:28:27,930 --> 00:28:28,609 Speaker 1: We have a mini 616 00:28:28,609 --> 00:28:31,510 Speaker 2: game. We each have a Lego botanical set that we 617 00:28:31,510 --> 00:28:32,359 Speaker 2: need to build. 618 00:28:32,770 --> 00:28:34,329 Speaker 1: So we have 15 minutes to see how far we 619 00:28:34,329 --> 00:28:37,859 Speaker 1: can get. Um, the Lego app is quite cool. I 620 00:28:37,859 --> 00:28:40,479 Speaker 1: have 3D instructions in front of me now. 621 00:28:40,569 --> 00:28:42,849 Speaker 2: It's super cool. Like they even show you the plastic like. 622 00:28:43,930 --> 00:28:46,170 Speaker 1: Yeah. Our task is to make a flower for our 623 00:28:46,170 --> 00:28:48,699 Speaker 2: mom. And just saying, I have the hardest one, OK. 624 00:28:48,810 --> 00:28:51,670 Speaker 2: So we've already sorted all our little parts out. 625 00:28:52,130 --> 00:28:52,250 Speaker 1: Not me. 626 00:28:52,290 --> 00:28:54,369 Speaker 2: This is Q's first time. Yeah, I've never 627 00:28:54,369 --> 00:28:54,770 Speaker 2: done it before. 628 00:28:54,890 --> 00:28:59,439 Speaker 1: I'm so excited for you. OK, we're gonna start in 321. 629 00:29:01,675 --> 00:29:01,685 Speaker 1: OK. 630 00:29:03,464 --> 00:29:05,665 Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, are we supposed to narrate what we 631 00:29:05,665 --> 00:29:06,625 Speaker 2: are doing? No, 632 00:29:06,665 --> 00:29:09,415 Speaker 1: I'm going to be completely silent for 15 minutes. Oh my. 633 00:29:11,915 --> 00:29:13,584 Speaker 1: I have a question for you. Yeah, if you could 634 00:29:13,584 --> 00:29:15,665 Speaker 1: give your mom anything, what would you give her? A 635 00:29:15,665 --> 00:29:19,064 Speaker 1: Lego botanical set and then maybe followed by a Lego 636 00:29:19,064 --> 00:29:19,864 Speaker 1: Millennium Falcon. 637 00:29:20,939 --> 00:29:22,530 Speaker 2: Then she don't want that you keep, right? 638 00:29:23,790 --> 00:29:27,670 Speaker 1: I will give her 30 more years. sorry, no. I 639 00:29:27,670 --> 00:29:31,810 Speaker 1: will give you. No, I want to give my mom 640 00:29:31,810 --> 00:29:32,319 Speaker 1: her youth. 641 00:29:32,989 --> 00:29:35,270 Speaker 2: What would I give my mom maybe like uh. 642 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 2: Maybe, honestly, she's been saying she wants to go on 643 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 2: a trip with me, so maybe I'll give her the 644 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:42,469 Speaker 2: gift of a trip with me. 645 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 1: Oh, actually, what have you given your moms for Mother's 646 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:48,959 Speaker 1: Day in recent years? To be honest, my mom used 647 00:29:48,959 --> 00:29:52,949 Speaker 1: to reject flowers. She always say it's a waste of money, um, 648 00:29:53,060 --> 00:29:55,750 Speaker 1: it's gonna die. You put it in a corner for what? 649 00:29:55,849 --> 00:29:58,270 Speaker 1: For people say in adulthood, I feel like. 650 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,119 Speaker 1: I've learned to appreciate flowers a lot. So I wanted 651 00:30:01,119 --> 00:30:05,359 Speaker 1: my mom to start appreciating flowers. So last year I 652 00:30:05,359 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 1: came home with two bouquets of flowers for my mom 653 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,959 Speaker 1: and my sister and I, I just passed it to 654 00:30:11,959 --> 00:30:13,199 Speaker 1: my mom. I said, I know you're going to say 655 00:30:13,199 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 1: it's a waste of money, but I don't care, just 656 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,319 Speaker 1: take it. It's it's my, it's my way of saying 657 00:30:17,319 --> 00:30:19,380 Speaker 1: I love you. And then she just 658 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,839 Speaker 1: She, she like, thank you. Then she went to put 659 00:30:23,839 --> 00:30:27,479 Speaker 1: in a vase. That's very sweet of you. Yeah, nearly 660 00:30:27,479 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 1: as sweet as my rose. 661 00:30:30,670 --> 00:30:34,540 Speaker 1: OK, actually my mom loves flowers. So, her favorite flower 662 00:30:34,540 --> 00:30:37,540 Speaker 1: is orchid. So every year or every other year, I 663 00:30:37,540 --> 00:30:39,819 Speaker 1: will get her orchids and then they always die. 664 00:30:40,709 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 1: Because, um, I think she likes flower but she's not 665 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,930 Speaker 1: very good, um, gardener. I finished. 666 00:30:47,869 --> 00:30:48,849 Speaker 1: Guys, I'm a beginner 667 00:30:48,849 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 2: huh 668 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:52,900 Speaker 1: cross pollinate. 669 00:30:53,589 --> 00:30:55,699 Speaker 2: Actually this is so pretty. I would love to receive 670 00:30:55,699 --> 00:30:59,949 Speaker 2: this because this flower won't die. So guys, Lego flowers 671 00:30:59,949 --> 00:31:02,979 Speaker 2: are built to last, just like your relationship with your mom. 672 00:31:03,189 --> 00:31:06,339 Speaker 2: With every piece that you add on, you are building 673 00:31:06,339 --> 00:31:08,750 Speaker 2: a stronger block with your mother. 674 00:31:09,430 --> 00:31:12,780 Speaker 1: If you buy real flowers, right, it means that 675 00:31:12,979 --> 00:31:15,819 Speaker 1: You don't want a strong bond with your mother. Oh, 676 00:31:16,099 --> 00:31:19,219 Speaker 2: OK, you know what, guys, you can do both. You 677 00:31:19,219 --> 00:31:21,900 Speaker 2: real flowers along with a wrapped box and when she 678 00:31:21,900 --> 00:31:23,709 Speaker 2: opens it, she can make her own flower. 679 00:31:23,819 --> 00:31:25,540 Speaker 1: Then after one week when you see the real one 680 00:31:25,540 --> 00:31:32,180 Speaker 1: start to build, right, you just replace with the Lego flowers. 681 00:31:33,209 --> 00:31:36,770 Speaker 1: Your stamp. Why your stamp so long? You you steal 682 00:31:36,770 --> 00:31:41,689 Speaker 1: some of my stamps. I think you stole some of 683 00:31:41,689 --> 00:31:42,459 Speaker 1: my stamps. 684 00:31:42,930 --> 00:31:44,489 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know you should give this to your mom, right? 685 00:31:44,569 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 2: Then you say let go holiday. 686 00:31:48,260 --> 00:31:50,579 Speaker 2: This is your first time building Lego. How do you 687 00:31:50,579 --> 00:31:51,369 Speaker 2: feel about it? 688 00:31:51,479 --> 00:31:53,500 Speaker 1: Honestly, it was so fun. As much as we were 689 00:31:53,500 --> 00:31:56,459 Speaker 1: stressing out, right, just because it was a competition, I 690 00:31:56,459 --> 00:31:58,229 Speaker 1: feel like it could be a very therapeutic thing to do. 691 00:31:58,420 --> 00:32:02,380 Speaker 1: On a little Saturday afternoon with a hot cup of 692 00:32:02,380 --> 00:32:03,209 Speaker 1: green tea. 693 00:32:03,699 --> 00:32:06,729 Speaker 1: Can be a bit introspective, to think about 694 00:32:06,729 --> 00:32:08,729 Speaker 2: in the background. What a 695 00:32:08,729 --> 00:32:13,930 Speaker 1: vibe. What has become very accessible even for our slower adults. Hey, 696 00:32:13,989 --> 00:32:16,979 Speaker 1: slow is the trend these days. That's what I meant. 697 00:32:17,050 --> 00:32:17,729 Speaker 1: I mean slow. 698 00:32:20,930 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 2: What about you, bro, do you approve? 699 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:24,500 Speaker 1: I think. 700 00:32:24,910 --> 00:32:25,900 Speaker 1: Lower maintenance, 701 00:32:26,599 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 2: you know 702 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 2: what I've actually seen 703 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:29,959 Speaker 1: can we go look at this, look 704 00:32:29,959 --> 00:32:30,630 Speaker 2: at how 705 00:32:37,510 --> 00:32:37,689 Speaker 1: like durable this is. This is not the illusionary my 706 00:32:37,689 --> 00:32:37,709 Speaker 1: pen 707 00:32:37,709 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 2: but I see people display this with real flowers and 708 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:43,569 Speaker 2: it actually looks really good. You put with your like monster, 709 00:32:43,709 --> 00:32:45,709 Speaker 1: the juxtaposition. 710 00:32:47,780 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 2: Right, yeah, and guys, they all don't look as good. 711 00:32:54,959 --> 00:32:58,890 Speaker 1: No, because after you finish your individual flowers, you can 712 00:32:58,890 --> 00:33:03,839 Speaker 1: then put into the vase with other flowers. He confirmed 713 00:33:03,839 --> 00:33:07,119 Speaker 1: one to make his rose like the main character. You see, 714 00:33:07,369 --> 00:33:12,449 Speaker 1: you see you're ruining the rest. Then it's like that. OK. 715 00:33:14,089 --> 00:33:17,079 Speaker 1: Actually, honestly, I didn't expect it to look so full. 716 00:33:17,119 --> 00:33:20,410 Speaker 1: It's so pretty because I would always assume that like 717 00:33:20,410 --> 00:33:23,270 Speaker 1: when you build toys, it just looks like it will 718 00:33:23,270 --> 00:33:23,890 Speaker 1: just look like a 719 00:33:23,890 --> 00:33:24,130 Speaker 1: toy, 720 00:33:24,209 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 2: you know they say 721 00:33:27,260 --> 00:33:27,270 Speaker 2: about 722 00:33:27,270 --> 00:33:29,569 Speaker 1: assume, right? Don't make you and me, yeah, just make 723 00:33:29,569 --> 00:33:31,449 Speaker 1: a flower out of Lego blocks. 724 00:33:33,790 --> 00:33:36,410 Speaker 2: OK, before we wrap up this episode, is there anything 725 00:33:36,410 --> 00:33:38,609 Speaker 2: you've always wanted to say to your mom but never 726 00:33:38,609 --> 00:33:38,890 Speaker 2: got 727 00:33:38,890 --> 00:33:41,469 Speaker 1: to? No, I want to say I just say. Why, 728 00:33:41,609 --> 00:33:42,910 Speaker 1: why you, why don't say I, I have never held 729 00:33:42,910 --> 00:33:50,140 Speaker 1: back anything. I think there are moments where I would 730 00:33:50,140 --> 00:33:51,869 Speaker 1: tell her the harsh truth about. 731 00:33:52,780 --> 00:33:55,849 Speaker 1: Things about our relationship or like the family and yeah, 732 00:33:55,930 --> 00:33:59,050 Speaker 1: there's nothing to be afraid of. I think generally my 733 00:33:59,050 --> 00:34:01,119 Speaker 1: relationship with my mom has been quite healthy. 734 00:34:01,329 --> 00:34:01,530 Speaker 2: Yeah, 735 00:34:01,770 --> 00:34:05,849 Speaker 2: same. I mean, I think my mom and I say 736 00:34:05,849 --> 00:34:07,079 Speaker 2: too much to each other. 737 00:34:09,300 --> 00:34:12,350 Speaker 2: And that's also how we communicate, yeah, 738 00:34:12,689 --> 00:34:14,639 Speaker 1: but I think if anything I wish she knew how 739 00:34:14,639 --> 00:34:17,370 Speaker 1: beautiful she is inside and out. Yeah, I think my 740 00:34:17,370 --> 00:34:18,590 Speaker 1: mom has never really 741 00:34:29,270 --> 00:34:29,290 Speaker 2: seen that 742 00:34:29,290 --> 00:34:29,530 Speaker 1: about herself. Then I got sick last time. I like Mom, 743 00:34:29,540 --> 00:34:29,659 Speaker 1: you're looking. I said that she really likes. 744 00:34:30,479 --> 00:34:31,659 Speaker 1: Mummy's a tire. 745 00:34:34,090 --> 00:34:35,819 Speaker 1: Don't say that. 746 00:34:37,489 --> 00:34:39,569 Speaker 2: Mr. Lim, we apologize for 747 00:34:39,570 --> 00:34:40,449 Speaker 2: Mr. Lim. 748 00:34:41,780 --> 00:34:43,689 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for watching this episode of The Hot Pot. 749 00:34:43,739 --> 00:34:46,060 Speaker 1: You can listen to us on Spotify, Apple Podcast and 750 00:34:46,060 --> 00:34:46,649 Speaker 1: me listen 751 00:34:46,649 --> 00:34:48,379 Speaker 2: and subscribe to us if you haven't 752 00:34:48,379 --> 00:34:51,570 Speaker 1: already. And if you're looking for Mother's Day gift this year, 753 00:34:51,659 --> 00:34:54,739 Speaker 1: then the Lego botanical sets might be what you need. 754 00:34:54,979 --> 00:34:57,419 Speaker 1: You can also check out the Lego Mother's Day pop 755 00:34:57,419 --> 00:35:00,580 Speaker 1: up at Suntec City from 9 to 12th May. More 756 00:35:00,580 --> 00:35:03,040 Speaker 1: details in the description box below. and share with us 757 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,138 Speaker 1: your favorite moments with your mums. We would love to 758 00:35:05,139 --> 00:35:05,569 Speaker 1: read them. 759 00:35:06,139 --> 00:35:08,339 Speaker 2: And we'll see you in the next episode. Bye. 760 00:35:10,300 --> 00:35:13,679 Speaker 1: shit, my piece dropped already. Can you pause for a while, please. 761 00:35:13,689 --> 00:35:14,159 Speaker 1: Please pause. 762 00:35:16,610 --> 00:35:19,570 Speaker 2: Speaking of like dropping Lego pieces, right, have you ever 763 00:35:19,570 --> 00:35:22,209 Speaker 2: stepped on a Lego piece? It's the iconic thing that 764 00:35:22,209 --> 00:35:24,199 Speaker 2: is like super painful when you step on one. 765 00:35:24,330 --> 00:35:27,089 Speaker 1: It's like the, you know, when the old people downstairs 766 00:35:27,090 --> 00:35:30,110 Speaker 1: when they step on the rock. That 767 00:35:30,110 --> 00:35:31,409 Speaker 2: your therapy 768 00:35:31,409 --> 00:35:33,009 Speaker 1: or reflexology. 769 00:35:35,270 --> 00:35:37,370 Speaker 2: Nothing happened, nothing happened. I'm practicing my singing.