WEBVTT - Coming Soon: Gertie’s Law

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<v Speaker 1>Silence all stand please and remain standing.

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<v Speaker 1>I suppose in the courtroom I'm called Your Honor.

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<v Speaker 1>All persons having business before this honorable court are commanded

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<v Speaker 1>to give their attendance and they shall be heard.

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<v Speaker 1>In normal life, I'm usually called Simon.

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<v Speaker 3>Gertie is one of the three watching women of the court.

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<v Speaker 3>She's not blindfolded because Justice Redmond Barry thought it'd be a

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<v Speaker 3>good idea if she could see everybody that comes through the door.

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<v Speaker 3>In the workplace... it varies the associates like they tend

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<v Speaker 3>to call us Judge I think.

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<v Speaker 3>Our legal system has always been premised in modern times

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<v Speaker 3>on the assumption that it's better that 10 guilty men

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<v Speaker 3>or women go free than that one innocent man or

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<v Speaker 3>woman is wrongfully convicted.

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<v Speaker 3>You can't go wrong with Judge if you go with

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<v Speaker 3>judge nobody's going to get offended nobody's gonna tell you off.

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<v Speaker 3>And they shall be heard. And they shall be heard.

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<v Speaker 3>The whole truth. And nothing but the truth. Nothing but

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<v Speaker 3>the truth.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm Greg Müller. I'm Evan Martin. This is Gertie's Law

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<v Speaker 6>a podcast series from the Supreme Court of Victoria. We'll

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<v Speaker 6>hear from the judges, explore the labyrinth of corridors and

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<v Speaker 6>even the underground dungeons. Meet the people behind the difficult

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<v Speaker 6>decisions made here every day.

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<v Speaker 6>The pressure to get things right is enormous and so

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<v Speaker 6>it should be.

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<v Speaker 6>And get to know the system from the inside.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm Anne Ferguson, Chief Justice of Victoria. What we do

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<v Speaker 7>here every day directly affects people's lives. It's complex, it

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<v Speaker 7>matters to our democracy and it's fascinating. You might think

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<v Speaker 7>you know this court many criminals who've appeared here are household

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<v Speaker 7>names and it's on the news most nights. But how

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<v Speaker 7>well do you really know it?

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<v Speaker 7>Well I was kind of freaked out to be frank

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<v Speaker 7>so I just came off the street and next minute

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<v Speaker 7>I'm sitting like two or three meters from a serial killer.

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<v Speaker 7>I think I've seen too much violent death apart from

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<v Speaker 7>anything else I've sentenced a significant number of people to

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<v Speaker 7>usually very long sentences.

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<v Speaker 8>Punishment's a tricky concept because we don't live in a

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<v Speaker 8>lawless society in which vengeance or lynch mobs rule.

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<v Speaker 2>This is 21st century justice in a 19th century building.

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<v Speaker 2>These courtrooms look pretty much the same as they did

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<v Speaker 2>130 years ago except for the laptops on the bar

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<v Speaker 2>table and the female judges.

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<v Speaker 2>The judge must come to an instinctive synthesis to arrive

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<v Speaker 2>at the final sentence.

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<v Speaker 2>When I first heard the term instinctive synthesis I thought

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<v Speaker 2>it was an 80s rock band.

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<v Speaker 8>You get a very, very detailed look at areas of

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<v Speaker 8>life that you wouldn't ordinarily go into I recently heard

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<v Speaker 8>a case about spring onion farming.

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<v Speaker 8>For entertainment, people would come to the courts and they

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<v Speaker 8>would watch the cases and they would watch the leading

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<v Speaker 8>barristers perform and they would watch the salacious murder trials

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<v Speaker 8>in the public galleries of the courts were full. That

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<v Speaker 8>is mostly not the case any more.

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<v Speaker 8>How has this justice system evolved since the eighteen eighties?

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<v Speaker 8>What happens here after the news cameras and the microphones

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<v Speaker 8>are turned off? And just how the judges come to

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<v Speaker 8>their decisions?

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<v Speaker 6>Gertie's Law raises the curtain on the Supreme Court of Victoria.

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<v Speaker 6>Each episode will explore a different aspect of the court

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<v Speaker 6>such as sentencing, juries suppression orders and parole. Listen to

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<v Speaker 6>gird his law wherever you get your podcasts. First episode

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<v Speaker 6>March 25th.

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<v Speaker 6>This honorable court stands adjourned.