WEBVTT - Most Anticipated Restaurants of 2024

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<v Speaker 1>Hello again and welcome to Arch Eats where we take

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<v Speaker 1>a deeper dive into the things that listeners may not

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<v Speaker 1>know about the restaurant scene here in Saint Louis with

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<v Speaker 1>me as always is co-host and co collaborator Cheryl Beer.

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<v Speaker 1>This episode of Arch Eats brought to you by Saint

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<v Speaker 1>Louis symphony orchestra. Uh In a prior episode, we elaborated

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<v Speaker 1>on Saint Louis magazine's best new restaurants list. And today

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna give more details on another subject. We collaborated

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<v Speaker 1>on our most anticipated restaurant list for 24

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<v Speaker 1>16. Must go to places that we know of so far.

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<v Speaker 1>There's gonna be a lot more. Then we will finish

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<v Speaker 1>as we always do with a micro rant. But first

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<v Speaker 1>we'll begin as we always do with what I can't

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<v Speaker 1>stop thinking about this week.

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<v Speaker 1>So the thing I can't stop thinking about this week

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<v Speaker 1>is the thing. Actually, we can't stop thinking about. Neither

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<v Speaker 1>one of us could get over the whole Ben Pemba

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<v Speaker 1>announcement that he's putting not three but five restaurants in

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<v Speaker 1>the Delmar Maker District. Cheryl. I know you and I

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<v Speaker 1>were just like on our heels like, you know, holy,

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<v Speaker 1>we didn't say Molly, but we said something else when

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<v Speaker 1>he got finished with that

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<v Speaker 1>and, uh it was just uh an unbelievable announcement and

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<v Speaker 1>we really didn't know we didn't actually have any, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>postgame analysis, post podcast analysis. And that's what I think

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<v Speaker 1>we should both talk about. Now. What did you, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>what was your takeaway from that? I mean, I am,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just amazed that he is going to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Ben

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<v Speaker 2>Pemba is a bold person and I think a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people are um raising eyebrows,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, how is he going to pull off? You know,

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<v Speaker 2>not only is he closing his flagships and moving them

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<v Speaker 2>across town, but he's also opening other things in the

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<v Speaker 2>midst of this. And I think, you know, to the naysayers,

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<v Speaker 2>I would say, you know, people tried to bet against

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<v Speaker 2>him in botanical heights as well and look, look what happened,

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<v Speaker 2>look what all he achieved. So I actually am pretty

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<v Speaker 2>bullish on Ben's moves. Um I think they're just going

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<v Speaker 2>to be really exciting and, and great to see

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<v Speaker 1>and he was, and he was the first to say

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<v Speaker 1>that he said this time, I get to do it

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<v Speaker 1>the way I wanted to do it in the first place,

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<v Speaker 1>the way it should be built and I can do

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<v Speaker 1>it even quicker, you know, basically to come to a

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<v Speaker 1>new neighborhood that needs this. And quite honestly, I bet

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<v Speaker 1>he's got great rent there and uh it's just a

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<v Speaker 1>huge opportunity for him. And, and like you said, he

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<v Speaker 1>is a, he's a risk taker. He is a, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he is, he's, he does exciting stuff. He, he takes

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<v Speaker 1>chances and that's what I, that's what I like about

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<v Speaker 1>this guy. He was joking that Gerard Kraft at one time,

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<v Speaker 1>moved a restaurant and started another at exactly the same time.

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<v Speaker 1>Now he's doing that with basically five restaurants. So we've

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<v Speaker 1>got to hand it to uh to Ben Pemba for

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<v Speaker 1>doing something that really nobody else has ever done. And, and,

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<v Speaker 1>and really, you know, there was a Cheryl you were

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<v Speaker 1>mentioning some concerns and one of them is that there's

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<v Speaker 1>no really infill housing in that area. There wasn't any

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<v Speaker 1>infill housing in botanical heights either. His contention is that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, having a density of business in a, in

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<v Speaker 1>an area would drive a change in population in, in building.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, when developers are thinking of putting places up,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a good idea to have some great restaurants within

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<v Speaker 1>walking distance and that's exactly what he's gonna do. So

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<v Speaker 1>my prediction is some, you know, there's gonna be some

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<v Speaker 1>infill housing that's gonna follow along here. You know, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think that strip between Union and King's Highway is

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<v Speaker 1>even a mile long. But man, by the end of

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<v Speaker 1>2024 he won't recognize

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<v Speaker 2>it. And I know you have people in the Skin

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<v Speaker 2>Oliver neighborhood who are looking for a place that they

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<v Speaker 2>can walk to, that's closer than the west end. The

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<v Speaker 2>west end is just around the corner. I mean, what's

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<v Speaker 2>really exciting about this too is that he's, they're all

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<v Speaker 2>such different concepts and it's not just different in style

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<v Speaker 2>but in form as well. You know, he has a

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<v Speaker 2>breakfast and lunch spot. He has a bar, he has

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<v Speaker 2>as a fine dining, you know, restaurant here. He has

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<v Speaker 2>kind of a reinvention of Olio. So really, he's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of giving a little bit of something to a whole

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<v Speaker 2>lot of different kind of interests. And I think that's

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<v Speaker 2>where um where he's going to find a success.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think we might have talked about this before,

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<v Speaker 1>but what his restaurants, what makes them unique is

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<v Speaker 1>they work. They will all work in any city and

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<v Speaker 1>that's the way he designs them that you could pick

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<v Speaker 1>up a Leo and put it anywhere in the country

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<v Speaker 1>and it would work. You could pick up Nick to

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<v Speaker 1>put it anywhere in the country and it would work.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's, again, that's a testament to him. He's got

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<v Speaker 1>incredible creativity. He's uh amazing attention to detail. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>he thinks this stuff through so well and uh I,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's something that, that, that people overlook that,

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<v Speaker 1>that uh you know, these things can literally appear on

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<v Speaker 1>any corner in any city and be successful.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they can appear in any corner in any city.

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<v Speaker 2>They can appear on any corner in the same city.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm, I'm looking forward

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<v Speaker 1>to it. Boy, me too. Anyway, we'll see, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>in about nine months we're gonna, we're gonna be hanging

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<v Speaker 1>out in a different part of town, which I think

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<v Speaker 1>is very, very exciting. Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 1>So our plan today with our most anticipated restaurants episode

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<v Speaker 1>is to provide some more detail beyond the written article

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<v Speaker 1>that we put out a few weeks ago. And uh

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<v Speaker 1>we did 1618, 20 quite a few. And I, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna start uh with Osteria for which

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<v Speaker 1>again it's open now. But when we wrote that article,

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<v Speaker 1>it had, it had yet to open, right? Remember I

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<v Speaker 1>said we're going to talk more about this place and,

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<v Speaker 1>and here we go. So it's open out in o'fallon, Missouri.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh It's uh extended members of the Pio Toso family.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh the it's interesting. The, the, the big seller

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<v Speaker 1>is the a 14 inch bone in pork rib chop,

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<v Speaker 1>done salt and boca style with prosciutto and a white

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<v Speaker 1>wine sage sauce

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<v Speaker 1>and uh Fontanella cheese. That sounds fantastic. I said, why?

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<v Speaker 1>Fontanella and not Fontina? Well, it's creamier. It's smoother and

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<v Speaker 1>it's a little sharper which I didn't know. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>one of the secrets to this beautiful dish that everybody's

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<v Speaker 1>going crazy about out there. There's a dessert. This is

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<v Speaker 1>pretty funny. Uh The,

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<v Speaker 1>the one of the owners is, is the pastry chef

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<v Speaker 1>and she makes the Tre Aichi cake, Tre Aichi three

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<v Speaker 1>friends cake. It's a chocolate cake with three friends. Peanut butter,

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<v Speaker 1>butter cream, chocolate ganache and salted caramel sauce. Wow. These

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<v Speaker 2>seem like friends. I want to hang

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<v Speaker 1>and I mean, it's, it's so inc and it's, it's

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<v Speaker 1>outselling everything else.

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<v Speaker 1>And the other owner said, you know, you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>make tiramisu homemade here too and normally that just flies

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<v Speaker 1>off the shelves. He goes, don't forget about the tiramisu guys.

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<v Speaker 1>He's telling the servers, you know, don't forget to push

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<v Speaker 1>the tiramisu because everybody's ordering this tray, Amici cake, you

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<v Speaker 1>say peanut

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<v Speaker 2>butter butter cream and I don't think you can convince

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<v Speaker 2>me of anything else. It,

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<v Speaker 1>it's, it's, it's a really cool place. It's out in o'fallon.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh

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<v Speaker 1>If, if, if you can get there in time I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if they can keep making this, but they're

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<v Speaker 1>making a homemade barrel aged orang cello out of uh

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<v Speaker 1>you know, ma macerated orange peels and, and, and sugar

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<v Speaker 1>and they ferment all that for three months in toasted

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<v Speaker 1>oak barrels. And the owner said I love this stuff

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<v Speaker 1>and everybody's loving it, but I don't know that I

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<v Speaker 1>can continue to make it because it's so labor intensive.

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<v Speaker 1>So get out there and have some Orano with your tray.

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<v Speaker 1>Aichi cake.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's Osteria Foro. Now open in o'fallon. You've got

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<v Speaker 1>a place down in uh it's called Manalo that I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know that much about. I know it's getting ready

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<v Speaker 1>to open.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes. So that's one of the places I'm particularly excited about.

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<v Speaker 2>I think, you know, over the past few years we've

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<v Speaker 2>seen some really great Filipino restaurants open here in town.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I think of uh fatten calf, I think

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<v Speaker 2>of can and Te'o Exactly. That's a wonderful one too

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<v Speaker 2>over there in mid

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<v Speaker 2>out and we're going to add this to the list.

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<v Speaker 2>Um They're going to open in Tower Grove South, I

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<v Speaker 2>believe they originally said end of 2023 but looks like

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<v Speaker 2>it might get pushed as, as most things do into

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<v Speaker 2>the next month. So hopefully sometime in January they are

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<v Speaker 2>taking over, um, the very short lived restaurant space. Um,

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<v Speaker 2>that was at one time snow. And um they're looking

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<v Speaker 2>to do

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<v Speaker 2>a very traditional Filipino restaurant what the family has said

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<v Speaker 2>is that this is going to be the sort of

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<v Speaker 2>place where think home cooking, think stews and, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Slow Breed Oxtail that have been simmering for hours, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>even cooking for like days.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, in, in someone's home kitchen, they want this

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<v Speaker 2>really traditional soulful, satisfying, slow cooked kind of feel to

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<v Speaker 2>their place there. Um, some of the dishes, like I said,

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<v Speaker 2>Oxtail soup is going to be there. Um, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they'll have pence it, of course, Adobo.

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<v Speaker 2>Um, they also said they're going to do some sweets

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<v Speaker 2>and some imported coffee from the Philippines. So I'm really

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<v Speaker 2>excited

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<v Speaker 1>about that and it's a restaurant that's on two floors.

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<v Speaker 1>Always interested to see what happens on the second floor

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<v Speaker 1>of a restaurant. If it's as appealing as the first floor,

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<v Speaker 1>snow was that way snow was pretty cool upstairs.

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<v Speaker 1>Um Now a place that we went to again, it,

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<v Speaker 1>it kind of sneaked open all of a sudden I

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<v Speaker 1>thought it was gonna open toward the end of the month,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's uh it will be open by the time

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<v Speaker 1>listeners hear this. It's called None of the Above. And

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<v Speaker 1>it is the new speakeasy esque bar. I guess if

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<v Speaker 1>you want to call it that it's City Foundry, you know, it's, it's,

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<v Speaker 1>it's in literally in a tunnel underneath City Foundry. It's

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<v Speaker 1>uh from Gerard Kraft's Niche food group.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it was underground. We didn't, we couldn't like

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<v Speaker 1>peek through the window to see what was going on

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<v Speaker 1>and you enter via a very nondescript man door out

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<v Speaker 1>on Foundry Way that has a single red light above it.

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<v Speaker 1>No signage. And, uh, I, I don't wanna,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, uh, spoil too much of the, of the surprise,

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<v Speaker 1>but there's, there's some passageways and there's some secret doors and, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you were there, what was your impression of the place?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you walk in and I was there in

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<v Speaker 2>the middle of the day and I might as well

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<v Speaker 2>have been there. It doesn't matter, it doesn't matter. You

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<v Speaker 2>walk in, you go through these tunnels, you just descend

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<v Speaker 2>into the subterranean world that, you know, used to be

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<v Speaker 1>and there's all

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of hallways. It's, it's a, it's not a

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<v Speaker 1>long hike, but you definitely feel like you've earned it

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<v Speaker 1>when you get there. And what I

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<v Speaker 2>think is interesting is you're gradually going down these ramps

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<v Speaker 2>like it's not this, you know, you climb down a

0:11:23.375 --> 0:11:26.895
<v Speaker 2>massive stairwell, like everything's just very gradual as if it's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of setting this tone to get to this space

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<v Speaker 2>and then you walk in the store and

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<v Speaker 2>it is just absolutely stunning. I mean, the way I

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<v Speaker 2>described it is it kind of as if art deco

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<v Speaker 2>and mid century modern like had a baby together, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>just think like these lux velvet banquettes, this gorgeous kind of, um,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, amber cognac kind of colored wooden bar, downcast

0:11:54.969 --> 0:11:59.299
<v Speaker 2>lights like brass fixtures on each table individually. It's

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<v Speaker 1>stunning. It's sexy. It's romantic.

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<v Speaker 1>The cocktails are great. Uh It's interesting, the food component,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no kitchen there. So at the present time, the

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<v Speaker 1>food is some uh some cold items, but they're all

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<v Speaker 1>really good and they're not

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<v Speaker 2>going to do a, you know, a full blown food

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<v Speaker 2>program there because, you know, they're right underneath city foundries.

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<v Speaker 2>So they figure this is going to be just a

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<v Speaker 2>special place where people will go for really elegant cocktails.

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<v Speaker 2>They emphasize the,

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<v Speaker 2>they see this as a sophisticated place. They don't have

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<v Speaker 2>a dress code per se. You'll feel

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<v Speaker 1>like you should dress a little bit to go to this. It's,

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<v Speaker 1>it's that cool. It's that sophisticated and it's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>that popular. It's gonna be one of those places you

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<v Speaker 1>brag about to your friends, family, people from out of town. And,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, with that in mind it's no reservations, admittance

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<v Speaker 1>is by walk in only

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<v Speaker 1>and you just have to remember that. But once the

0:12:53.849 --> 0:12:56.569
<v Speaker 1>place fills up, you go on to Rezz and go

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<v Speaker 1>on to that Rezz waitlist, which is a really convenient thing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's that, you know, hey, we've got four people. They

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<v Speaker 1>said very well, you know, your table should be ready

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<v Speaker 1>in 20 minutes, 25 minutes, whatever it is. So at

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<v Speaker 1>least you won't be, be hanging there.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, I understand again. This place is gonna be so

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<v Speaker 1>popular that there will be some sort of time limit

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<v Speaker 1>on the table, sir. Uh I was told that it

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<v Speaker 1>and it's gonna be generous, but it won't be a

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<v Speaker 1>place where you can just, you wanna hang out there

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<v Speaker 1>all night, but

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<v Speaker 1>you won't be allowed to because I'm telling you, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just going to be that popular that, that so many

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<v Speaker 1>people are gonna want to get in there and that's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of, uh that's kind of a thing that's happening,

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<v Speaker 1>I think across the country and especially in Europe, these

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<v Speaker 1>time limits on tables, these guys have to make their

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<v Speaker 1>money when, when the people are out there. So, so that, that's,

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<v Speaker 1>that's how that happens. But none of the above open

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<v Speaker 1>at City Foundry STL

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<v Speaker 1>You heard it here, it is outstanding.

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<v Speaker 2>Must visit. Absolutely an essential food and beverage destination of

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<v Speaker 2>Saint Louis.

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<v Speaker 1>Um out at Westport, I was excited to see all

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<v Speaker 1>the goings on out there. They tore a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>buildings down. There's this huge uh uh green space that's

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<v Speaker 1>being constructed for concerts and parties and, you know, parties

0:14:07.320 --> 0:14:09.880
<v Speaker 1>at the plaza and they've, they've recreated

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<v Speaker 1>uh the, the soda fountain uh restaurant. They uh kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a mini me version of the soda fountain down

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<v Speaker 1>at Union Station and they didn't spare any expense. It's

0:14:19.330 --> 0:14:21.799
<v Speaker 1>exactly the same and they spent a fortune on this place.

0:14:21.809 --> 0:14:26.369
<v Speaker 1>It is really cool looking burgers, freak shakes, fast casual stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not table service like it is uh at Union

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<v Speaker 1>Station so that it should be opened by year's end.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm told. And then

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<v Speaker 1>you've got on the 12th floor of the Gold Tower, the,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the new 360 which is, again, we love

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<v Speaker 1>360 downtown. It's on the rooftop here. It's not, I

0:14:45.289 --> 0:14:48.330
<v Speaker 1>think it's a couple floors down but there's operable windows

0:14:48.340 --> 0:14:50.169
<v Speaker 1>that open up. So it kind of feels you've got,

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<v Speaker 1>you've got the open air feel there.

0:14:52.635 --> 0:14:54.895
<v Speaker 1>Plaza is, it's all of a sudden, it's like it's

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<v Speaker 1>happening there again. And I'm just glad to see that

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<v Speaker 1>you've got a place um in Webster Groves that we

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<v Speaker 1>both love. This

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<v Speaker 2>is Tel the at the Ridge. Um I said, Lauren Nick,

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<v Speaker 2>she and her husband Eddo are the owners of Balkan

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<v Speaker 2>Treat Box, which I think

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<v Speaker 2>if you're listening to this podcast, you are very well

0:15:14.510 --> 0:15:18.570
<v Speaker 2>versed with Balkan Treat Box. It is a vital part

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<v Speaker 2>of the Saint Louis restaurant scene and this is a

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<v Speaker 2>fun little. Um I guess she, she calls it a

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<v Speaker 2>coffee shop. She calls it a cafe that has their

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<v Speaker 2>flavor profile, which is, you know, Balkan cuisine, um very

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<v Speaker 2>focused on kind of the Balkan um

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<v Speaker 2>in particular Bosnian coffee

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<v Speaker 1>drink, the Balkan coffee experience, which is done in, I

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<v Speaker 1>haven't experienced this yet. It's in a little copper pot

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't even dare try to pronounce it. There's two,

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<v Speaker 1>there's two Z's and a V in the name. It's,

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<v Speaker 1>it's impossible to pronounce, but they brew to order this coffee.

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<v Speaker 1>And I guess the name t the, the name comes

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<v Speaker 1>from the grounds found at the bottom of this coffee.

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<v Speaker 1>And apparently fortune tellers use that to tell the drinkers

0:16:06.260 --> 0:16:08.770
<v Speaker 2>fortune. Yes. Instead of like reading the tea leaves, you

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<v Speaker 2>read the coffee.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if that's gonna happen there, but it should. Exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and that's a, that's a really fun place and

0:16:15.059 --> 0:16:17.849
<v Speaker 2>she's going to have kind of daytime fair there. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>she's not spilling the beans too much on what her

0:16:21.419 --> 0:16:24.630
<v Speaker 2>things are. But think of things like, you know, toasts

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<v Speaker 2>and pastries, a lot of different coffee drinks. It's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be just a really fun spot.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a bread pudding that's got, it looks like about

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<v Speaker 1>three tablespoons of cinnamon in it. Have you seen that

0:16:36.690 --> 0:16:39.000
<v Speaker 1>with that made with the so moon bread that is

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<v Speaker 1>just outstanding. Nexus.

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<v Speaker 1>Nexus has been a long time coming. It is

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<v Speaker 2>and I am so excited about Nexus. Um I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if, well, I'm sure you, do you remember the

0:16:50.799 --> 0:16:54.059
<v Speaker 2>restaurant bait in the central west end? That really just

0:16:54.070 --> 0:16:59.280
<v Speaker 2>sophisticated seafood cocktail lounge. Their chef, at least their opening

0:16:59.289 --> 0:17:03.450
<v Speaker 2>chef Sarah Jackson is just this, in my mind. She's

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<v Speaker 2>just this culinary powerhouse. She has this knack for flavor that, um,

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<v Speaker 2>that I feel like she's just one of the most

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<v Speaker 2>chefs that we've seen recently in ST Louis. Um, she's

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<v Speaker 2>been on the scene for a while, but I started

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<v Speaker 2>knowing about her at a place in SARD that's since closed,

0:17:20.455 --> 0:17:24.196
<v Speaker 2>called Fleur De Lily's. That was wonderful. Um, and then

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<v Speaker 2>at Bait, I was really a big fan of her food. Now,

0:17:27.316 --> 0:17:29.546
<v Speaker 2>she's getting to step out on her own. She's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be chef and owner of this restaurant and it'll

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<v Speaker 2>be located in midtown. It's part of that, um, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>development there that houses a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>really great

0:17:38.602 --> 0:17:42.062
<v Speaker 1>restaurant. I call it the 2700 Locust development. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think it has an official name, but there's five restaurants

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<v Speaker 1>under one roof. I think it started with um Quinte

0:17:49.561 --> 0:17:53.942
<v Speaker 1>Filipino Place. Uh Anita Cafe is there. But Dra Wine

0:17:53.952 --> 0:17:57.602
<v Speaker 1>Bar and now Nexus and there's, there's a brewery coming in,

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<v Speaker 1>coming in. So anyway, 2700 Locust is gonna be a

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<v Speaker 1>happening little corner and, and it really is, it's, it's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of reached critical mass. So,

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<v Speaker 1>so Nexus one's that supposed to open. So

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<v Speaker 2>that is, that's another one of those where I think

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<v Speaker 2>the goal was sometime in December of 2023 but it

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<v Speaker 2>looks like it'll get pushed into January, possibly even February

0:18:18.750 --> 0:18:21.989
<v Speaker 2>and what diners can expect at that place. She really,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, she's true to the name. She sees the

0:18:24.109 --> 0:18:26.448
<v Speaker 2>place as kind of this culinary crossroads.

0:18:27.224 --> 0:18:29.704
<v Speaker 2>She doesn't want to use the word fusion, but she's

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<v Speaker 2>really drawing on global flavors. She's taking inspiration from a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of different culinary traditions and she's really trying to

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<v Speaker 2>create this gathering place where you can experience small plates

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<v Speaker 2>from around the world

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<v Speaker 1>and I peeked in the windows there. It's really charming.

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<v Speaker 1>It looks kind of like a, like a parlor in

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<v Speaker 1>the central west end.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, the, the old fireplaces and, and, and, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>cushy chairs and it looks very, very, uh cozy and

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<v Speaker 1>charming and appealing. That's Nexus. We go out to Chesterfield

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<v Speaker 1>to Napoli Brothers and this is gonna open, I think

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<v Speaker 1>in about April and this is the, the restaurant from

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<v Speaker 1>uh the Napoli Brothers being Ken

0:19:07.689 --> 0:19:11.310
<v Speaker 1>and Andy Pio Toso, the sons of uh uh Tony

0:19:11.319 --> 0:19:15.349
<v Speaker 1>Pio Toso of Cafe Napoli fame. Anyway, their thing there,

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<v Speaker 1>Napoli Brothers pizza and pasta is these coal fired pizzas

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<v Speaker 1>and it'll be the only place in town that has

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<v Speaker 1>a coal fired the Black Blisters,

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<v Speaker 1>New Haven style um pie that's cooked in 1000 degree oven.

0:19:29.569 --> 0:19:32.150
<v Speaker 1>It's hotter than any other pizza oven in town. And

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<v Speaker 1>so you get this incredible uh crispness and, and blistering

0:19:36.420 --> 0:19:39.160
<v Speaker 1>and charred flavor like you would from a charcoal like

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<v Speaker 1>like you're cooking it on, on a charcoal grill.

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<v Speaker 1>So, so that's gonna be their claim to fame. But

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<v Speaker 1>I also understood that they're gonna do some pastas there,

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<v Speaker 1>some fresh and dried pastas like they do at some

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<v Speaker 1>of their other stores. So, but the, the signature item

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<v Speaker 1>out at Napoli Brothers is gonna be the same thing

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<v Speaker 1>that they have out at Napoli C it's a pasta

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<v Speaker 1>that's finished in a hollowed out half wheel of Italian Parmesan.

0:20:03.849 --> 0:20:04.880
<v Speaker 1>This giant

0:20:05.380 --> 0:20:10.000
<v Speaker 1>£45 wheel that they cart out to your table. Throw

0:20:10.010 --> 0:20:13.239
<v Speaker 1>some grain alcohol in there. Light it lighted a fire,

0:20:13.369 --> 0:20:15.400
<v Speaker 1>soften up some of the cheese and then they throw

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<v Speaker 1>some seafood risotto in there and scrape some of that

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<v Speaker 1>cheese into that and serve it right. then in there

0:20:22.089 --> 0:20:26.199
<v Speaker 1>table side, it sounds borderline obscene because it

0:20:26.444 --> 0:20:29.915
<v Speaker 1>no casual place out in Chesterfield. I said that's pretty

0:20:29.925 --> 0:20:33.125
<v Speaker 1>darn cool for being casual. So that's gonna be their

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<v Speaker 1>one table side item. And again, they're, they're making a

0:20:36.334 --> 0:20:38.734
<v Speaker 1>big deal out of it because it's the biggest seller

0:20:38.744 --> 0:20:40.425
<v Speaker 1>at Napoli C and they said we just have to

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<v Speaker 1>repeat it because it's just so cool. Go for the

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<v Speaker 1>pizza but definitely hang out for the flaming uh Parmesan

0:20:45.994 --> 0:20:47.385
<v Speaker 1>half wheel. Yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>hang out with the flaming Parmesan

0:20:50.449 --> 0:20:52.399
<v Speaker 1>one in doubt. Light it on fire. It's one of the, it's,

0:20:52.410 --> 0:20:57.770
<v Speaker 1>it's probably the slickest tableside preparation in town. I learned

0:20:57.780 --> 0:21:02.119
<v Speaker 1>a lot talking to the folks at forehands slash peacemaker.

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<v Speaker 1>The one that's gonna open in Kirkwood. Speaking of taking

0:21:04.699 --> 0:21:06.959
<v Speaker 1>a long time to open again, this is the, the

0:21:06.969 --> 0:21:10.160
<v Speaker 1>two Kevins Kevin Lump and Kevin Nash. And this is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be really quite large 315 seats, which is,

0:21:14.459 --> 0:21:15.670
<v Speaker 1>that's an insane amount.

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<v Speaker 1>What I learned was 75 inside, 75 under like a

0:21:20.229 --> 0:21:23.959
<v Speaker 1>four season edition. And then it, it, their quote backyard

0:21:23.969 --> 0:21:26.349
<v Speaker 1>has 100 and 50 seats as well. So, um, a

0:21:26.359 --> 0:21:30.089
<v Speaker 1>lot of, uh, fun things. It's gonna be 50% peacemaker

0:21:30.099 --> 0:21:33.180
<v Speaker 1>and 50% forehands. It's not gonna be, it's not gonna

0:21:33.189 --> 0:21:34.839
<v Speaker 1>lean in either direction.

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<v Speaker 1>But what the fun thing about that is they got

0:21:37.479 --> 0:21:40.688
<v Speaker 1>a menu board from a place called Oat Foundry, which

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<v Speaker 1>I'd never heard of who creates menu boards that are

0:21:43.619 --> 0:21:46.810
<v Speaker 1>akin to those London train station, those old type of

0:21:46.819 --> 0:21:50.270
<v Speaker 1>boards with the numbers that flap and flip over. And

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<v Speaker 1>so they'll be able to change their beers. They'll, they'll

0:21:52.819 --> 0:21:55.310
<v Speaker 1>be able to change their menu. Everything can change, that

0:21:55.319 --> 0:21:58.729
<v Speaker 1>whole board can change completely in 45 seconds.

0:21:59.170 --> 0:22:02.560
<v Speaker 1>And again, they're right next to the Amtrak Station and

0:22:02.569 --> 0:22:05.020
<v Speaker 1>they said we'll even put the Amtrak schedule up on

0:22:05.030 --> 0:22:08.780
<v Speaker 1>this board. That looks like an old train schedule board. Anyway. I,

0:22:08.790 --> 0:22:11.540
<v Speaker 1>I just, I had to laugh at that. I was

0:22:11.550 --> 0:22:13.899
<v Speaker 1>talking to Kevin Lump about it and he said, it's, it's,

0:22:13.910 --> 0:22:16.500
<v Speaker 1>it's the little things that, that separate you. I want

0:22:16.510 --> 0:22:18.458
<v Speaker 1>people to say this is the coolest menu board I've

0:22:18.469 --> 0:22:20.969
<v Speaker 1>ever seen. And I said, and they will, so they're

0:22:20.979 --> 0:22:24.839
<v Speaker 1>going for, uh, hospitality, they're going for experience, they're really

0:22:24.849 --> 0:22:26.339
<v Speaker 1>taking their time on it

0:22:26.709 --> 0:22:30.199
<v Speaker 1>and I know that they're gonna do, um, every quarter

0:22:30.209 --> 0:22:33.390
<v Speaker 1>they're talking about doing outdoor shrimp and crab boils with

0:22:33.400 --> 0:22:36.770
<v Speaker 1>a specific beer brewed for that occasion. They've got all

0:22:36.780 --> 0:22:40.270
<v Speaker 1>kinds of things cooked up for this and they're talking

0:22:40.280 --> 0:22:43.209
<v Speaker 1>about finally, I think they're finally ready to announce an

0:22:43.219 --> 0:22:48.079
<v Speaker 1>opening after kind of hemming and hawing, uh April May opening. And, um,

0:22:48.349 --> 0:22:50.939
<v Speaker 1>that's, that's the story there. And again, that'll be a

0:22:50.949 --> 0:22:53.629
<v Speaker 1>place that everybody's gonna hang out and especially in that,

0:22:53.689 --> 0:22:55.890
<v Speaker 1>you know, backyard that seats 100 and 50 people.

0:22:55.900 --> 0:22:59.250
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely. Yeah, that, that will be a, uh, one of

0:22:59.260 --> 0:23:02.250
<v Speaker 2>those places where get there early. I have a feeling

0:23:02.369 --> 0:23:05.468
<v Speaker 2>it'll be a very popular spot and rightfully so,

0:23:05.479 --> 0:23:08.239
<v Speaker 1>yeah, definitely. And, and like, yeah, long time comment, but

0:23:08.489 --> 0:23:12.719
<v Speaker 1>it'll be worth it. So, um, good company. Is that

0:23:12.729 --> 0:23:13.329
<v Speaker 1>the name of it?

0:23:13.339 --> 0:23:16.770
<v Speaker 2>It is. I am so excited about good company. Um,

0:23:17.150 --> 0:23:22.020
<v Speaker 2>if you're familiar with Good Ice, this is, I guess

0:23:22.030 --> 0:23:26.229
<v Speaker 2>you'd call it a sister company to them. Um, Good Ice.

0:23:26.239 --> 0:23:32.530
<v Speaker 2>It was started by a few bartenders, Jordan Goodman, Kyle Gillespie. Um,

0:23:32.540 --> 0:23:37.130
<v Speaker 2>they're just veteran bartenders, um, here around town and they've

0:23:37.140 --> 0:23:40.688
<v Speaker 2>been doing if you've been anywhere and seen those one

0:23:41.255 --> 0:23:44.365
<v Speaker 2>just embossed ice cubes that are at some of the

0:23:44.375 --> 0:23:48.026
<v Speaker 2>higher end cocktail bars, some nice restaurants around town. Um,

0:23:48.036 --> 0:23:50.686
<v Speaker 2>they got their start doing those. They have all sorts

0:23:50.696 --> 0:23:53.326
<v Speaker 2>of special equipment. It's actually very helpful. It's not a

0:23:53.336 --> 0:23:54.625
<v Speaker 2>gimmick for restaurants.

0:23:54.836 --> 0:23:58.776
<v Speaker 1>They're the ones that have the giant spheres and the long, um,

0:23:58.836 --> 0:24:03.105
<v Speaker 2>the giant spheres, the long rectangles. Um, they have like,

0:24:03.115 --> 0:24:04.316
<v Speaker 2>people can put their logos

0:24:04.421 --> 0:24:06.771
<v Speaker 2>in the ice cubes. If you've seen that at places,

0:24:06.921 --> 0:24:09.641
<v Speaker 2>it's just a wonderful company at their hearts though. Their

0:24:09.651 --> 0:24:13.391
<v Speaker 2>bartenders and they always thought, ok, well, maybe we could

0:24:13.401 --> 0:24:18.482
<v Speaker 2>open up a cocktail bar that complemented our ice business.

0:24:18.491 --> 0:24:22.261
<v Speaker 2>It would be kind of an ice focused cocktail bar. So, um,

0:24:22.271 --> 0:24:25.511
<v Speaker 2>that's the idea behind good company. At least that was

0:24:25.521 --> 0:24:27.881
<v Speaker 2>the genesis of the idea. But

0:24:28.459 --> 0:24:32.000
<v Speaker 2>when they found the space in the former Leila in

0:24:32.010 --> 0:24:34.589
<v Speaker 2>the grove, which is where they're going to be opening,

0:24:34.689 --> 0:24:38.530
<v Speaker 2>they really saw that. Ok, we think the space necessitates

0:24:38.540 --> 0:24:41.560
<v Speaker 2>us doing something a little bit bigger. So in addition

0:24:41.569 --> 0:24:43.400
<v Speaker 1>to Fancy Schmancy Ice, yeah,

0:24:43.410 --> 0:24:47.640
<v Speaker 2>exactly. In addition to Fancy Schmancy Ice and, and I must,

0:24:47.660 --> 0:24:52.160
<v Speaker 2>I must say that Fancy Schmancy Ice does not translate

0:24:52.170 --> 0:24:54.560
<v Speaker 2>into Fancy Schmancy

0:24:54.996 --> 0:24:58.886
<v Speaker 2>experience. They, you know, they wanna have a nice, comfortable

0:24:59.026 --> 0:25:03.936
<v Speaker 2>elevated hospitality focused experience, but it's not gonna be, you know,

0:25:03.946 --> 0:25:05.857
<v Speaker 2>like none of the above where you feel like you

0:25:05.866 --> 0:25:08.737
<v Speaker 2>have to dress up. They're not going for that. In fact,

0:25:08.746 --> 0:25:11.557
<v Speaker 2>one thing they are going for is they really wanna

0:25:11.567 --> 0:25:13.916
<v Speaker 2>be in the conversation is one of the best burgers

0:25:13.927 --> 0:25:16.557
<v Speaker 2>in town, their food menu. They're gonna have a very

0:25:16.567 --> 0:25:20.057
<v Speaker 2>small food menu, but it's going to center around burgers.

0:25:20.067 --> 0:25:21.457
<v Speaker 2>And uh Jordan

0:25:21.534 --> 0:25:25.354
<v Speaker 2>told me not a smash burger but not as thick

0:25:25.364 --> 0:25:29.864
<v Speaker 2>as a like really hearty eight ounce steakhouse burger. Somewhere

0:25:29.874 --> 0:25:34.234
<v Speaker 2>in between. Not too big, not too small goldilocks burger. Exactly.

0:25:34.542 --> 0:25:37.973
<v Speaker 2>You know, just focus toppings. Maybe a fried egg, some

0:25:37.984 --> 0:25:41.494
<v Speaker 2>really great bacon, good cheese. Um, so that's what they're

0:25:41.504 --> 0:25:44.213
<v Speaker 2>looking to do and they do not have an opening

0:25:44.223 --> 0:25:46.514
<v Speaker 2>date at this point. I'm thinking we're probably like into

0:25:46.523 --> 0:25:47.994
<v Speaker 2>spring sometime

0:25:48.071 --> 0:25:50.470
<v Speaker 2>around there when they're looking to be open. But that

0:25:50.480 --> 0:25:52.020
<v Speaker 2>is good company in the growth.

0:25:52.031 --> 0:25:55.831
<v Speaker 1>But they're doing brew. Are they brewing and distilling? I know,

0:25:55.840 --> 0:25:58.369
<v Speaker 1>didn't they, didn't somebody call it a breil? Do I

0:25:58.380 --> 0:25:59.951
<v Speaker 1>have the right place there? No,

0:25:59.961 --> 0:26:02.380
<v Speaker 2>that's not. I don't think that's good company. I think

0:26:02.390 --> 0:26:06.531
<v Speaker 2>that might be alpha, which is next on the list. Yeah,

0:26:06.661 --> 0:26:10.151
<v Speaker 2>good company is just strictly think cocktail bar, think kind

0:26:10.161 --> 0:26:14.500
<v Speaker 2>of neighborhood gathering spot with uh elevated hospitality element to

0:26:14.859 --> 0:26:15.150
<v Speaker 2>it

0:26:15.161 --> 0:26:17.090
<v Speaker 1>in the Delmar Maker District

0:26:17.349 --> 0:26:20.719
<v Speaker 1>is a brew stiller, what they're calling a Bruil that's

0:26:20.729 --> 0:26:22.389
<v Speaker 1>opening up in the springtime, right

0:26:22.439 --> 0:26:27.060
<v Speaker 2>where you're talking about the Bruil is Alpha Brewing Company.

0:26:27.069 --> 0:26:31.849
<v Speaker 2>Um They are located in Tower Grove South currently and

0:26:31.859 --> 0:26:34.609
<v Speaker 2>they're getting ready to open in a facility in the

0:26:34.619 --> 0:26:37.770
<v Speaker 2>Makers District, kind of like a combination events and food

0:26:37.780 --> 0:26:41.889
<v Speaker 2>space called the Maker's Locale. And the whole idea behind

0:26:41.987 --> 0:26:45.896
<v Speaker 2>this is it's going to be food and beverage focused,

0:26:45.906 --> 0:26:49.886
<v Speaker 2>but you will be able to witness your food or

0:26:49.896 --> 0:26:52.986
<v Speaker 2>drink being made in some sort of capacity. The focus

0:26:52.996 --> 0:26:55.607
<v Speaker 2>is on the maker side. So with that being said,

0:26:55.616 --> 0:26:58.717
<v Speaker 2>Alpha Brewing company, they have their, a brewery that they're

0:26:58.727 --> 0:27:02.327
<v Speaker 2>doing there and uh you know, tasting room, of course,

0:27:02.337 --> 0:27:06.536
<v Speaker 2>but they've also just launched a uh distillery and they're going,

0:27:06.624 --> 0:27:11.124
<v Speaker 2>their main focus is Fruited Vodkas, which they've already released them.

0:27:11.134 --> 0:27:15.463
<v Speaker 2>Um They're called Sqush, I believe, is the name of them.

0:27:15.634 --> 0:27:17.884
<v Speaker 2>Um I believe that's how you pronounce it. Um So

0:27:17.894 --> 0:27:20.072
<v Speaker 2>those have already been released, but that's going to be

0:27:20.083 --> 0:27:22.523
<v Speaker 2>the place where those different it is. It's kind of

0:27:22.534 --> 0:27:24.943
<v Speaker 2>fun to say. And so yeah, I guess I'm thinking

0:27:24.953 --> 0:27:28.273
<v Speaker 2>about like squishing up like a strawberry in my fruit vodka.

0:27:28.284 --> 0:27:30.923
<v Speaker 2>You know, I guess it's aptly named there.

0:27:31.260 --> 0:27:32.961
<v Speaker 2>So they're a lot of fun, but they're not the

0:27:32.970 --> 0:27:37.441
<v Speaker 2>only ones in makers local, two very beloved places from

0:27:37.451 --> 0:27:41.321
<v Speaker 2>the Hustle Hospitality Group which owns Steve's Hot Dogs and

0:27:41.330 --> 0:27:46.150
<v Speaker 2>Fountain on Locust. They are opening a second location of

0:27:46.161 --> 0:27:50.911
<v Speaker 2>Steve's hot dogs as well as a ice cream concept

0:27:50.921 --> 0:27:55.480
<v Speaker 2>called Fountain Off Locust. So think of the ice cream

0:27:55.490 --> 0:27:55.760
<v Speaker 2>and

0:27:56.119 --> 0:27:59.880
<v Speaker 2>the dessert side. They do at the original fountain on Locust,

0:28:00.079 --> 0:28:02.669
<v Speaker 2>but they won't do the food component there. And the

0:28:02.680 --> 0:28:05.349
<v Speaker 2>idea is you'll get to see your ice cream being made,

0:28:05.359 --> 0:28:08.359
<v Speaker 2>you'll get to see like your hot dogs prepared to order.

0:28:08.569 --> 0:28:10.959
<v Speaker 2>Um Just a really fun spot that they're gonna do

0:28:10.969 --> 0:28:14.420
<v Speaker 1>there. I was really interested to talk to Gerard Craft

0:28:14.430 --> 0:28:18.680
<v Speaker 1>about his new Barbecue concept called Expat Barbecue, which was

0:28:18.689 --> 0:28:20.140
<v Speaker 1>announced a while back.

0:28:20.619 --> 0:28:24.030
<v Speaker 1>Um, and, and again, he said, you know, the barbecue

0:28:24.040 --> 0:28:26.599
<v Speaker 1>is kind of universal across the world. The only thing

0:28:26.609 --> 0:28:29.569
<v Speaker 1>that changes are the flavors and the marinades and the

0:28:29.579 --> 0:28:33.410
<v Speaker 1>sauces and you know how the, the, the meats are,

0:28:33.420 --> 0:28:34.159
<v Speaker 1>are treated.

0:28:34.619 --> 0:28:37.060
<v Speaker 1>And he gave me a little sneak peek into one

0:28:37.069 --> 0:28:40.060
<v Speaker 1>of the, uh, items that he's gonna be serving there. Uh,

0:28:40.339 --> 0:28:43.540
<v Speaker 1>it's a Saint Louis style spare rib, not a baby back.

0:28:43.550 --> 0:28:46.280
<v Speaker 1>We all are baby back to death. He loves, he

0:28:46.290 --> 0:28:49.560
<v Speaker 1>loves the big Saint Louis. Spare the big long flat

0:28:49.569 --> 0:28:52.500
<v Speaker 1>spare rib that I call the rib. My dad used

0:28:52.510 --> 0:28:53.689
<v Speaker 1>to cook when I was a kid

0:28:54.099 --> 0:28:57.579
<v Speaker 1>and on this, he's going to put a uh here

0:28:57.589 --> 0:29:00.040
<v Speaker 1>and this is what makes you, there's Chinese five spice

0:29:00.050 --> 0:29:06.000
<v Speaker 1>fermented black bean paste, black vinegar, lychee juice and bajo whiskey.

0:29:06.449 --> 0:29:10.010
<v Speaker 1>And you know, I know most of these except for

0:29:10.020 --> 0:29:11.910
<v Speaker 1>bajo whiskey and I had to look that up. I

0:29:11.920 --> 0:29:14.329
<v Speaker 1>didn't know what the heck it was. It's, it's a

0:29:14.339 --> 0:29:16.989
<v Speaker 1>clear Chinese spirit and apparently

0:29:17.390 --> 0:29:22.020
<v Speaker 1>it's the world's best selling liquor more than whiskey, vodka,

0:29:22.030 --> 0:29:26.489
<v Speaker 1>gin rum and tequila combined. We are to believe Wikipedia.

0:29:26.500 --> 0:29:29.670
<v Speaker 1>But anyway, I was impressed to see that, that there

0:29:29.680 --> 0:29:33.130
<v Speaker 1>was all this detail going into the spare ribs. So

0:29:33.560 --> 0:29:36.770
<v Speaker 1>uh again, this is uh what he calls different but

0:29:36.780 --> 0:29:39.969
<v Speaker 1>still familiar uh flavors. He's going to

0:29:40.609 --> 0:29:44.800
<v Speaker 1>um he's going to take brisket and use seasonings from

0:29:44.810 --> 0:29:50.109
<v Speaker 1>the Yucatan on that particular piece of meat, cinnamon oregano, burrito, chilies,

0:29:50.119 --> 0:29:53.150
<v Speaker 1>things like that. So the brisket is gonna taste different.

0:29:53.310 --> 0:29:57.780
<v Speaker 1>He's going to do a triple smoked sweet potato sounds

0:29:57.790 --> 0:30:00.790
<v Speaker 1>delicious with flavors from Spain. So there's gonna be some

0:30:00.800 --> 0:30:02.550
<v Speaker 1>vegetable focus there too.

0:30:02.944 --> 0:30:05.564
<v Speaker 1>Anyway, there a lot of cool things going on. And

0:30:05.574 --> 0:30:09.064
<v Speaker 1>if you remember this is that giant space at City

0:30:09.074 --> 0:30:13.305
<v Speaker 1>Foundry STL two stories. I think it's 16,000 square feet.

0:30:13.494 --> 0:30:15.895
<v Speaker 1>And what he's experimenting with this is really wild is

0:30:15.905 --> 0:30:19.665
<v Speaker 1>this food delivery system? It's finer dining downstairs and much

0:30:19.675 --> 0:30:23.385
<v Speaker 1>more casual kind of sandwich focused upstairs. He's creating this

0:30:23.395 --> 0:30:24.545
<v Speaker 1>conveyor system

0:30:24.900 --> 0:30:27.790
<v Speaker 1>to carry the bags from downstairs all the way through

0:30:27.800 --> 0:30:31.050
<v Speaker 1>the space kind of looping around to see your food

0:30:31.060 --> 0:30:34.479
<v Speaker 1>traveling up this conveyor to the second floor. And he said,

0:30:34.489 --> 0:30:36.380
<v Speaker 1>if I can pull this off, it's it's really gonna

0:30:36.390 --> 0:30:40.780
<v Speaker 1>be cool. So look for a food conveyor at uh

0:30:40.790 --> 0:30:41.920
<v Speaker 1>expat BB

0:30:41.930 --> 0:30:44.300
<v Speaker 2>Q. It's like that little choo choo train restaurant.

0:30:44.994 --> 0:30:45.834
<v Speaker 2>It is a city that all the

0:30:45.844 --> 0:30:49.435
<v Speaker 1>kids go to and, and, and I, I was impressed

0:30:49.444 --> 0:30:50.925
<v Speaker 1>enough with all that. And he goes, well, let me

0:30:50.935 --> 0:30:54.655
<v Speaker 1>tell you about the life size pink elephant. He said,

0:30:54.665 --> 0:30:59.015
<v Speaker 1>we've named it Patty for expat and he's, he consulted

0:30:59.025 --> 0:31:02.964
<v Speaker 1>the guys at City Museum. Apparently, it's this sculpture life

0:31:02.974 --> 0:31:07.775
<v Speaker 1>size pink elephant. And according to legend, if the tusks

0:31:07.785 --> 0:31:10.775
<v Speaker 1>and trunk are in a certain position, it's good luck.

0:31:10.785 --> 0:31:12.814
<v Speaker 1>And he made sure that everything is,

0:31:13.359 --> 0:31:15.459
<v Speaker 1>you know, the way it needs to be. Apparently, Gerard

0:31:15.469 --> 0:31:17.619
<v Speaker 1>is a very, very superstitious guy and he had to

0:31:17.630 --> 0:31:21.579
<v Speaker 1>make sure that all this was proper and good luck.

0:31:21.589 --> 0:31:24.910
<v Speaker 1>This will be Patty will be his good luck charm.

0:31:24.920 --> 0:31:29.119
<v Speaker 1>And that barbecue is that for a, just a wacky story? Oh,

0:31:29.130 --> 0:31:29.280
<v Speaker 1>it

0:31:29.290 --> 0:31:31.819
<v Speaker 2>sounds fun. And I know he's, uh, I think he

0:31:31.829 --> 0:31:35.079
<v Speaker 2>said it's the large, it's by far the largest restaurant

0:31:35.089 --> 0:31:35.939
<v Speaker 2>he's opened to date

0:31:36.349 --> 0:31:39.280
<v Speaker 1>16,000 square feet is just huge. And, and again, on

0:31:39.290 --> 0:31:41.739
<v Speaker 1>that second floor, if you, if you see, you can

0:31:41.750 --> 0:31:44.650
<v Speaker 1>see it when you go up the Foundry way, that

0:31:44.660 --> 0:31:48.449
<v Speaker 1>patio stretches for like a mile, you can like bowl

0:31:48.459 --> 0:31:51.339
<v Speaker 1>do bowling up and down there. So it's gonna be

0:31:51.349 --> 0:31:52.930
<v Speaker 1>a really cool space upstairs

0:31:53.020 --> 0:31:58.020
<v Speaker 1>again, slightly more upscale little finer dining downstairs. Anyway, that's

0:31:58.030 --> 0:32:01.319
<v Speaker 1>expat barbecue. And I think he said, uh, April May. No.

0:32:01.329 --> 0:32:04.680
<v Speaker 1>He said March April for that. That is a cool place.

0:32:04.689 --> 0:32:08.449
<v Speaker 1>And maybe the, one of the more interesting places kind

0:32:08.459 --> 0:32:12.540
<v Speaker 1>of under the radar is neon greens. And that's opening

0:32:12.550 --> 0:32:16.150
<v Speaker 1>up in the, the old rise coffeehouse space in the grove.

0:32:16.160 --> 0:32:20.520
<v Speaker 1>And it's really the first of its kind in the country,

0:32:20.849 --> 0:32:24.439
<v Speaker 1>a quick service concept because they grow their own greens

0:32:24.449 --> 0:32:29.300
<v Speaker 1>and they use these giant uh vertical hydroponic systems to

0:32:29.310 --> 0:32:34.640
<v Speaker 1>do that. And, um, it's, it's, it's crazy. Apparently there's

0:32:34.650 --> 0:32:39.599
<v Speaker 1>uh these giant vertical hydroponic systems that allows the restaurant

0:32:39.609 --> 0:32:42.469
<v Speaker 1>to grow six acres worth of produce in this little

0:32:42.479 --> 0:32:46.510
<v Speaker 1>1200 square foot space. So they will produce, uh, produce

0:32:46.530 --> 0:32:47.390
<v Speaker 1>on site,

0:32:47.479 --> 0:32:49.599
<v Speaker 1>uh, all year round. And they're actually doing it right

0:32:49.609 --> 0:32:51.479
<v Speaker 1>now and they're selling it to restaurants. Yeah, I

0:32:51.489 --> 0:32:56.229
<v Speaker 2>went to Mainlander and Mainlander is using greens from there

0:32:56.239 --> 0:32:59.260
<v Speaker 2>for a salad that they had and I can tell

0:32:59.270 --> 0:33:02.890
<v Speaker 2>you you really can taste the difference between this level

0:33:02.900 --> 0:33:04.500
<v Speaker 2>of quality. I mean, just think

0:33:04.810 --> 0:33:06.189
<v Speaker 2>the most tender

0:33:06.439 --> 0:33:09.869
<v Speaker 1>homegrown. Well, it's as fresh as it gets. It's literally

0:33:09.880 --> 0:33:13.829
<v Speaker 1>plucked right there and it arrives apparently at neon greens

0:33:13.839 --> 0:33:17.209
<v Speaker 1>on a conveyor. They're, they're, they're conveying this lettuce uh

0:33:17.219 --> 0:33:21.089
<v Speaker 1>past the people that are ordering it. So anyway, this

0:33:21.099 --> 0:33:23.910
<v Speaker 1>is gonna be a really, really fun place to go

0:33:23.920 --> 0:33:27.229
<v Speaker 1>freshest salads. You can possibly get first of its kind

0:33:27.239 --> 0:33:27.989
<v Speaker 1>in the country,

0:33:28.290 --> 0:33:32.030
<v Speaker 1>uh opens sometime this spring. But in the meantime, you

0:33:32.040 --> 0:33:34.469
<v Speaker 1>might see some of these greens popping up at some

0:33:34.479 --> 0:33:38.030
<v Speaker 1>local restaurants and, and local shops. I just really like

0:33:38.040 --> 0:33:41.219
<v Speaker 1>the whole idea and the whole concept. It's just extremely

0:33:41.229 --> 0:33:44.959
<v Speaker 2>cool. I feel like we've unearthed a potential new food

0:33:44.969 --> 0:33:47.479
<v Speaker 2>trend for 2024 food via conveyor

0:33:47.489 --> 0:33:49.890
<v Speaker 1>belt. Yeah. Yeah, it's, it's great. You know, you can't

0:33:49.900 --> 0:33:52.270
<v Speaker 1>beat a conveyor belt. I think we've got one more

0:33:52.280 --> 0:33:55.010
<v Speaker 1>Yale bar and I'm letting you have it because I

0:33:55.020 --> 0:33:56.109
<v Speaker 1>know I know you're just

0:33:56.189 --> 0:33:56.829
<v Speaker 1>going to just,

0:33:57.170 --> 0:34:00.369
<v Speaker 2>I will wax poetically for the next 20 minutes about

0:34:00.380 --> 0:34:04.069
<v Speaker 2>why Parker's Table is the happiest place on earth. No,

0:34:04.079 --> 0:34:06.810
<v Speaker 2>I will, I will keep it toned down. But this

0:34:06.819 --> 0:34:10.370
<v Speaker 2>really is an exciting place for those who really see

0:34:10.379 --> 0:34:13.560
<v Speaker 2>Parker's Table, not just as a wine shop, but as

0:34:13.570 --> 0:34:17.610
<v Speaker 2>a market, but a community gathering place, the Yale Bar

0:34:17.620 --> 0:34:21.330
<v Speaker 2>is going to actually make that official. They took over

0:34:21.590 --> 0:34:24.009
<v Speaker 2>a law office that had been operating

0:34:24.090 --> 0:34:27.989
<v Speaker 2>um next door for probably like, yeah, forever. And I

0:34:28.000 --> 0:34:31.049
<v Speaker 2>think they'd always wanted to open something like this, but

0:34:31.060 --> 0:34:34.389
<v Speaker 2>the opportunity was just never there. So when the law

0:34:34.399 --> 0:34:37.209
<v Speaker 2>office was out, they, they jumped on it and they're

0:34:37.219 --> 0:34:41.989
<v Speaker 2>basically just doing a very low key 30 seat wine bar. Um,

0:34:42.000 --> 0:34:44.889
<v Speaker 2>they'll have beer and wine. No hard liquor. They're going

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<v Speaker 2>to be open. What John Parker, the owner calls English

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<v Speaker 2>pub hours of, you know, 5 to 10 p.m. PM,

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<v Speaker 2>you know,

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<v Speaker 2>probably have some little snacks here and there from the market. Um,

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<v Speaker 2>but just a really low key cozy spot and they

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<v Speaker 2>have such a wonderful wine selection there and such knowledgeable people.

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<v Speaker 2>I can only imagine it's gonna be such a fun

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<v Speaker 2>curated list. I bet it'll be the kind of place

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<v Speaker 2>where you're not just getting the usual suspects, they're probably

0:35:12.149 --> 0:35:15.300
<v Speaker 2>pouring some fun stuff and it's gonna be ever

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<v Speaker 2>changing. Just a really fun spot and

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<v Speaker 1>he's got such a knack for, for decorating and detail

0:35:20.830 --> 0:35:23.479
<v Speaker 1>and doing all of it. It's very organic and very

0:35:23.489 --> 0:35:25.510
<v Speaker 1>homegrown and he puts his tool belt on and goes

0:35:25.520 --> 0:35:28.350
<v Speaker 1>to work and everything he does. Uh, everything over at

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<v Speaker 1>the Oakland room is cool. Everything at,

0:35:30.870 --> 0:35:32.810
<v Speaker 1>you know, his wine shop is cool and now we've

0:35:32.820 --> 0:35:35.879
<v Speaker 1>got nail bar at the corner of Oakland. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and Steve Carvelli, the chef over there is just, not

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<v Speaker 2>only is he just a wonderfully talented chef, but he's

0:35:41.909 --> 0:35:45.469
<v Speaker 2>also just a great human being. So I'm excited to

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<v Speaker 2>see what

0:35:46.475 --> 0:35:49.395
<v Speaker 2>of opportunities there are for um, him with the Yale

0:35:49.405 --> 0:35:53.554
<v Speaker 1>Bar as well. And that's, I mean, we could talk more.

0:35:53.564 --> 0:35:56.745
<v Speaker 1>I mean, we've already yammered on enough, but that's just

0:35:56.754 --> 0:36:00.284
<v Speaker 1>a smattering of the new places that we're looking forward

0:36:00.294 --> 0:36:03.814
<v Speaker 1>to in 2024. And, uh, like I said, that really

0:36:03.824 --> 0:36:06.625
<v Speaker 1>only takes us to June. We haven't even scratched the

0:36:06.635 --> 0:36:09.165
<v Speaker 1>surface for the rest of the year. So we will

0:36:09.175 --> 0:36:13.415
<v Speaker 1>probably weigh in again, uh, later on with future picks,

0:36:13.719 --> 0:36:15.939
<v Speaker 1>uh, that we're excited about and I'm sure there'll be

0:36:15.949 --> 0:36:21.060
<v Speaker 1>tons of them. So that brings us to our micro rant.

0:36:22.159 --> 0:36:25.139
<v Speaker 1>And this week we're gonna talk about restaurants that don't

0:36:25.149 --> 0:36:29.179
<v Speaker 1>answer their phones during open hours from that just drives

0:36:29.189 --> 0:36:32.870
<v Speaker 1>me crazy. There are so many times that, you know,

0:36:32.879 --> 0:36:35.889
<v Speaker 1>you might be wanting to order something to go or,

0:36:35.899 --> 0:36:37.659
<v Speaker 1>you know, you lost your wallet or

0:36:37.760 --> 0:36:41.389
<v Speaker 1>you're seeing if the place is open on Monday or, uh,

0:36:41.429 --> 0:36:43.389
<v Speaker 1>this happened to me. I was trying to get a

0:36:43.399 --> 0:36:46.679
<v Speaker 1>message to somebody that I knew was there and wasn't responding.

0:36:46.909 --> 0:36:48.979
<v Speaker 1>And another time I was trying to buy him a

0:36:48.989 --> 0:36:51.860
<v Speaker 1>dessert and I wasn't able to do it just because they,

0:36:51.870 --> 0:36:53.219
<v Speaker 1>they weren't answering their phone.

0:36:53.550 --> 0:36:56.429
<v Speaker 1>And, and so that's just, I, I know that, you know, the, the,

0:36:56.439 --> 0:36:59.250
<v Speaker 1>the defense is, hey, we're too busy. We'd rather, you know,

0:36:59.260 --> 0:37:02.570
<v Speaker 1>take care of the customers that are there. But I

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<v Speaker 1>think there's a point where you either have a phone

0:37:05.600 --> 0:37:07.530
<v Speaker 1>and use it or just say the heck with it,

0:37:07.540 --> 0:37:09.090
<v Speaker 1>we're not gonna have a phone and there's a lot

0:37:09.100 --> 0:37:12.330
<v Speaker 1>of people that do that too, you know, and, and

0:37:12.340 --> 0:37:15.179
<v Speaker 1>my contention is, hey, if you're not answering the phone,

0:37:15.189 --> 0:37:17.810
<v Speaker 1>there's a good chance that your competitor is. I just

0:37:17.820 --> 0:37:20.649
<v Speaker 1>think for all those six reasons I stated that it's

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<v Speaker 1>a darn good reason to pick up the phone

0:37:22.500 --> 0:37:23.279
<v Speaker 2>during business.

0:37:23.385 --> 0:37:26.775
<v Speaker 2>Exactly. Well, I mean, I'm of the, uh, I'm of

0:37:26.785 --> 0:37:30.625
<v Speaker 2>the mindset that you should have a phone anyway. Like

0:37:30.635 --> 0:37:34.085
<v Speaker 2>you said, you're running late for a coveted reservation that

0:37:34.094 --> 0:37:38.885
<v Speaker 2>you probably sat online at midnight to secure. And what if,

0:37:38.895 --> 0:37:40.895
<v Speaker 2>you know, you had car trouble or there was an

0:37:40.906 --> 0:37:43.285
<v Speaker 2>accident on the highway or something and you're in danger

0:37:43.295 --> 0:37:45.785
<v Speaker 2>of having your table given away. So, no, I, I

0:37:45.795 --> 0:37:48.656
<v Speaker 2>completely agree with you. I think it's, it's just one

0:37:48.666 --> 0:37:53.025
<v Speaker 2>of those things where hospitality does not begin and end

0:37:53.035 --> 0:37:53.114
<v Speaker 2>with

0:37:53.221 --> 0:37:56.761
<v Speaker 2>when you walk in the front door it's an entire

0:37:56.812 --> 0:38:00.531
<v Speaker 2>ongoing and evolving relationship with that restaurant and the phone

0:38:00.541 --> 0:38:01.181
<v Speaker 2>is definitely a part

0:38:01.190 --> 0:38:04.291
<v Speaker 1>of that. I totally agree and, and I agree with

0:38:04.302 --> 0:38:07.471
<v Speaker 1>you about the reservation thing that happened to us. It's like,

0:38:07.481 --> 0:38:09.821
<v Speaker 1>you know, reservations are held for 15 minutes and then

0:38:09.832 --> 0:38:12.562
<v Speaker 1>anything goes, well, some people run late and if you

0:38:12.572 --> 0:38:14.661
<v Speaker 1>can't get through to them, it's really frustrating and then

0:38:14.672 --> 0:38:16.362
<v Speaker 1>you go in and say, I'm so sorry, so sorry,

0:38:16.372 --> 0:38:18.352
<v Speaker 1>so sorry that we're running late. But we tried to

0:38:18.362 --> 0:38:20.841
<v Speaker 1>get through and, you know, it's just, it just shouldn't,

0:38:20.882 --> 0:38:22.961
<v Speaker 1>it shouldn't be that way. It shouldn't happen that way.

0:38:23.580 --> 0:38:25.679
<v Speaker 2>Exactly. Answer your phones. Everyone.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it. This week, folks for Arch Eats, best dishes

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