1 00:00:08,257 --> 00:00:09,696 Speaker 1: Life audio. 2 00:00:11,137 --> 00:00:14,537 Speaker 2: Find inspiration as close as your phone. Download the Jesus 3 00:00:14,576 --> 00:00:17,416 Speaker 2: Calling app and get started today for free. Look for 4 00:00:17,457 --> 00:00:20,097 Speaker 2: the Jesus Calling app in both the Apple and Google 5 00:00:20,137 --> 00:00:31,497 Speaker 2: Play stores. Hi everybody, I'm Susie McIntyre Eaton and I'm 6 00:00:31,537 --> 00:00:36,177 Speaker 2: your host for Jesus Listens Stories of Prayer. Today. I 7 00:00:36,257 --> 00:00:40,736 Speaker 2: have a guest on a lady who is a functional 8 00:00:40,976 --> 00:00:44,577 Speaker 2: nutritionist and life coach. Her name is Aaron Carrey. She 9 00:00:44,617 --> 00:00:47,937 Speaker 2: lives in the Great State of Texas with her husband, 10 00:00:48,336 --> 00:00:52,177 Speaker 2: who is also a counselor. She has three children. And 11 00:00:52,457 --> 00:00:58,337 Speaker 2: I think you're going to really enjoy Aaron's wonderful testimony. 12 00:00:58,937 --> 00:01:02,897 Speaker 2: And she decided to write a book called Live Beyond 13 00:01:02,977 --> 00:01:06,337 Speaker 2: Your Label because she was ready to get out from 14 00:01:06,417 --> 00:01:09,937 Speaker 2: under her label. So'll sit back and relax. We're going 15 00:01:09,977 --> 00:01:14,817 Speaker 2: to go to the interview with Aaron Carrie. Hey, Aaron, 16 00:01:14,897 --> 00:01:17,177 Speaker 2: it's really good to have you on the show today. 17 00:01:17,497 --> 00:01:21,937 Speaker 2: I'm very, very interested in your story. What brought on 18 00:01:22,217 --> 00:01:26,297 Speaker 2: the diagnosis and the label that you first received. 19 00:01:26,777 --> 00:01:30,057 Speaker 3: I think in many ways I was so in my 20 00:01:30,217 --> 00:01:32,857 Speaker 3: head about my diagnoses. So I will say that I 21 00:01:32,977 --> 00:01:35,617 Speaker 3: was diagnosed with three labels that come with a stigma 22 00:01:35,897 --> 00:01:37,737 Speaker 3: it's one more than other. But by the time I 23 00:01:37,737 --> 00:01:41,737 Speaker 3: was eighteen, I was diagnosed with PTSD depression and bipolar disorder. 24 00:01:42,017 --> 00:01:45,937 Speaker 3: So for me, bipolar disorder, it is a clinical diagnosis. 25 00:01:46,017 --> 00:01:48,217 Speaker 3: It's not just a personality trait, not just a state 26 00:01:48,297 --> 00:01:51,137 Speaker 3: of mood swings shifting here and there. But it looked 27 00:01:51,177 --> 00:01:53,097 Speaker 3: like a period of time where I was experiencing full 28 00:01:53,097 --> 00:01:58,177 Speaker 3: body depression, like chronic fatigue symptoms burnout. I would stay 29 00:01:58,177 --> 00:02:00,337 Speaker 3: in bed, I could not physically get out of bed, 30 00:02:00,737 --> 00:02:03,257 Speaker 3: and that happened for a long period of time until 31 00:02:03,377 --> 00:02:07,137 Speaker 3: it flipped into many, which is a period of increased 32 00:02:07,137 --> 00:02:11,017 Speaker 3: goal directed activity. It's a period of fast talking. It 33 00:02:11,056 --> 00:02:12,777 Speaker 3: was extreme to the point where my parents were like, 34 00:02:13,056 --> 00:02:15,577 Speaker 3: what is going on? And then I would stay up 35 00:02:15,617 --> 00:02:18,377 Speaker 3: all night. I wasn't getting a lot of sleep, and 36 00:02:18,417 --> 00:02:23,457 Speaker 3: then really manifested. For me, that's really difficult as a 37 00:02:23,457 --> 00:02:26,377 Speaker 3: believer and as believers who struggle with this, is that 38 00:02:26,417 --> 00:02:30,577 Speaker 3: it led to increased risky behavior, to poor decision making, 39 00:02:31,057 --> 00:02:33,937 Speaker 3: and that didn't line up with my belief system. I'm 40 00:02:33,977 --> 00:02:37,377 Speaker 3: a firstborn, I'm an achiever, I'm a preacher's kid, and 41 00:02:37,457 --> 00:02:41,817 Speaker 3: so to make these really dumb, self destructive decisions in 42 00:02:41,857 --> 00:02:44,977 Speaker 3: a state of mania was confusing to me. So when 43 00:02:45,017 --> 00:02:47,377 Speaker 3: I finally did get my diagnosis, it was like, oh, okay, 44 00:02:47,457 --> 00:02:50,337 Speaker 3: there's something wrong with my physical body, there's something wrong 45 00:02:50,377 --> 00:02:52,977 Speaker 3: with my brain. Okay, that kind of makes sense. But 46 00:02:53,137 --> 00:02:57,417 Speaker 3: what was difficult is that it led to a lot 47 00:02:57,457 --> 00:03:00,577 Speaker 3: of negative self talk, which also would perpetuate the cycle. 48 00:03:00,937 --> 00:03:03,097 Speaker 3: It led to a lot of shame for me, and 49 00:03:03,137 --> 00:03:05,417 Speaker 3: that separated I mean, shame is always going to I'll 50 00:03:05,737 --> 00:03:07,697 Speaker 3: probably touched on that a little bit more later, but 51 00:03:07,737 --> 00:03:09,857 Speaker 3: shame will always separate us from God when we allow 52 00:03:09,977 --> 00:03:12,977 Speaker 3: ourselves to believe lies about ourselves, right, And so that 53 00:03:13,097 --> 00:03:16,657 Speaker 3: was really difficult. And then ultimately what happened at the 54 00:03:17,017 --> 00:03:19,697 Speaker 3: end of my college years is that I found myself 55 00:03:19,737 --> 00:03:23,097 Speaker 3: pregnant with my daughter when I was twenty two. And 56 00:03:23,217 --> 00:03:25,817 Speaker 3: the pregnancy was a result of an encounter where I 57 00:03:25,977 --> 00:03:28,737 Speaker 3: was blackout drunk, because during that period of my life, 58 00:03:28,817 --> 00:03:31,777 Speaker 3: I had just been drinking like crazy to escape and 59 00:03:31,817 --> 00:03:34,977 Speaker 3: so I found myself pregnant. And what's interesting is, and 60 00:03:34,977 --> 00:03:37,137 Speaker 3: what I always say is God used this pregnancy to 61 00:03:37,137 --> 00:03:39,417 Speaker 3: bring me new life. When I was pregnant with her, 62 00:03:39,817 --> 00:03:43,017 Speaker 3: I experienced complete remission of my symptoms, which is fascinating 63 00:03:43,057 --> 00:03:47,337 Speaker 3: from a whole like physiological medical standpoint, it fascinates me. 64 00:03:48,297 --> 00:03:50,057 Speaker 3: I think there's a lot of God's grace there and 65 00:03:50,337 --> 00:03:54,977 Speaker 3: redemption as well. But I felt really good. It allowed 66 00:03:54,977 --> 00:03:57,057 Speaker 3: me to create some new healthy habits. It wasn't an 67 00:03:57,097 --> 00:03:58,777 Speaker 3: easy road. I'm not going to say that at all. 68 00:03:58,817 --> 00:04:02,417 Speaker 3: But my daughter is now twenty one ironically studying psychology. 69 00:04:02,457 --> 00:04:04,297 Speaker 3: She wants to be a clinical psychologist. 70 00:04:04,897 --> 00:04:06,537 Speaker 2: But that was a big. 71 00:04:06,337 --> 00:04:09,457 Speaker 3: Turning point for me. But living with those those stigmas 72 00:04:09,457 --> 00:04:12,417 Speaker 3: of those illnesses was something that still was a weight 73 00:04:12,537 --> 00:04:14,257 Speaker 3: on me that I had to learn to deal with. 74 00:04:14,737 --> 00:04:18,657 Speaker 2: Even as parents, as they as they raised their children, 75 00:04:19,577 --> 00:04:26,416 Speaker 2: what is the percentage of their mental disorders? Are you know, 76 00:04:26,577 --> 00:04:32,016 Speaker 2: really strong or just very slightly there? How often does 77 00:04:32,056 --> 00:04:34,537 Speaker 2: it get transferred to their children. 78 00:04:34,856 --> 00:04:37,856 Speaker 3: I know there's a human genome project that discovered that 79 00:04:37,976 --> 00:04:40,976 Speaker 3: genes load the gun, but the environment pulls the trigger. 80 00:04:41,416 --> 00:04:43,816 Speaker 3: Even if you don't have a diagnostic label. For people 81 00:04:43,816 --> 00:04:46,376 Speaker 3: that don't have a diagnostic label of anxiety or bipolar 82 00:04:46,457 --> 00:04:49,057 Speaker 3: or any of these things, we have lots of other labels. 83 00:04:49,056 --> 00:04:50,017 Speaker 2: We give ourselves. 84 00:04:51,097 --> 00:04:54,217 Speaker 3: Motivated, we'll call ourselves things or tell ourselves things that 85 00:04:54,577 --> 00:04:56,897 Speaker 3: does not line up with the data at all. Yet 86 00:04:56,936 --> 00:04:59,416 Speaker 3: this is what happens, and it's all happening like one 87 00:04:59,457 --> 00:05:02,097 Speaker 3: thousand miles a minute on a subconscious level. And I 88 00:05:02,176 --> 00:05:05,176 Speaker 3: do think what I love about reframing, and I hope 89 00:05:05,176 --> 00:05:07,056 Speaker 3: that I re framed this enough in my book, is 90 00:05:07,097 --> 00:05:10,777 Speaker 3: that these are all out of protection. God gave us 91 00:05:10,816 --> 00:05:14,857 Speaker 3: these bodies that are hyper sensitive to triggers and alerts 92 00:05:14,897 --> 00:05:17,296 Speaker 3: and things because He wants us to live out our 93 00:05:17,337 --> 00:05:20,256 Speaker 3: purpose in him right. And so our bodies do get 94 00:05:20,257 --> 00:05:23,496 Speaker 3: on alert, unfortunately showing us unpleasant symptoms from time to time, 95 00:05:23,496 --> 00:05:26,337 Speaker 3: and feelings of anxiety and feelings of sadness and despair, 96 00:05:26,616 --> 00:05:29,457 Speaker 3: and sometimes we do get stuck there. But I do 97 00:05:29,537 --> 00:05:32,457 Speaker 3: think that these alerts were given for a reason. 98 00:05:33,137 --> 00:05:39,537 Speaker 2: You are a functional, functional medicine doctor or not. 99 00:05:39,697 --> 00:05:42,537 Speaker 3: No nutritionist. I work as a nutritionists and health coach. 100 00:05:42,976 --> 00:05:43,736 Speaker 2: I do think. 101 00:05:43,616 --> 00:05:46,456 Speaker 3: Nutrition plays a huge role. I mean, over ninety percent 102 00:05:46,457 --> 00:05:48,736 Speaker 3: of the serotonin that we make in our body is 103 00:05:48,856 --> 00:05:52,416 Speaker 3: made and synthesized in our gut microbiome, which is fascinating. 104 00:05:52,777 --> 00:05:55,976 Speaker 3: We know increasing research about the gut brain connection. Brain 105 00:05:56,056 --> 00:05:59,176 Speaker 3: gut connection, It goes both ways. And like I mentioned, 106 00:05:59,176 --> 00:06:02,576 Speaker 3: there's something called psycho immunology where even our immune system 107 00:06:02,616 --> 00:06:04,537 Speaker 3: is communicating with our brain. So there's a lot of 108 00:06:04,537 --> 00:06:06,896 Speaker 3: different factors at play that we knew about now that 109 00:06:06,976 --> 00:06:09,176 Speaker 3: we didn't when I was diagnosed. But I do think 110 00:06:09,217 --> 00:06:11,696 Speaker 3: that if you're getting the treatment that you need and 111 00:06:11,736 --> 00:06:15,056 Speaker 3: you feel good and it's working for you, awesome, that's wonderful. 112 00:06:15,337 --> 00:06:17,416 Speaker 3: In my experience working with clients, and then in my 113 00:06:17,457 --> 00:06:19,896 Speaker 3: own personal experience, a lot of people still are looking 114 00:06:19,897 --> 00:06:22,457 Speaker 3: for something else. They still don't quite feel like themselves, 115 00:06:22,657 --> 00:06:24,817 Speaker 3: and they're wondering what that something else is. And that's 116 00:06:25,017 --> 00:06:26,176 Speaker 3: why I put the book together. 117 00:06:26,416 --> 00:06:30,976 Speaker 2: I encourage others who are going through this or know someone. 118 00:06:31,097 --> 00:06:35,376 Speaker 2: If you know someone that is struggling with these labels, 119 00:06:35,457 --> 00:06:37,976 Speaker 2: with the label even if it's true, if it's not true, 120 00:06:38,457 --> 00:06:41,177 Speaker 2: to get the book and to listen to the podcast. 121 00:06:41,176 --> 00:06:45,616 Speaker 2: Spread it around that what Aaron has to say about 122 00:06:45,897 --> 00:06:48,416 Speaker 2: these struggles, everybody needs to hear. 123 00:06:48,457 --> 00:06:52,696 Speaker 3: This shame is the biggest liar, and it never tells 124 00:06:52,697 --> 00:06:56,457 Speaker 3: the truth, never, and it will continue to rupture your 125 00:06:56,457 --> 00:07:00,537 Speaker 3: connection with yourself, with others, and with your heavenly father 126 00:07:01,217 --> 00:07:06,296 Speaker 3: if you continue to keep believing the same all life. 127 00:07:06,296 --> 00:07:08,017 Speaker 3: So we've got to believe something new We've got to 128 00:07:08,056 --> 00:07:11,937 Speaker 3: create new neural pathways in our brain to restore our connections. 129 00:07:12,257 --> 00:07:17,177 Speaker 2: You are wonderfully made. You are God's creation, and He 130 00:07:17,257 --> 00:07:21,576 Speaker 2: wants the best for you and your life because for 131 00:07:21,697 --> 00:07:25,577 Speaker 2: one reason his commandment, Jesus's commandment when he went to 132 00:07:25,617 --> 00:07:28,897 Speaker 2: the cross to his disciples, he said, they will know 133 00:07:29,017 --> 00:07:33,897 Speaker 2: you by your love for one another. If you are unwell, 134 00:07:34,377 --> 00:07:37,097 Speaker 2: if you're mixed up in all of the darkness of 135 00:07:37,137 --> 00:07:41,697 Speaker 2: the world, you are unable to much less love yourself, 136 00:07:41,737 --> 00:07:44,816 Speaker 2: but love others. So make it a mission that you 137 00:07:44,897 --> 00:07:47,857 Speaker 2: are well today and that you can love others as 138 00:07:47,937 --> 00:07:51,417 Speaker 2: Christ has loved us. Aaron, thank you so much for 139 00:07:51,457 --> 00:07:55,816 Speaker 2: being with us. We always end the show with Jesus 140 00:07:55,897 --> 00:08:00,177 Speaker 2: listens by Sarah Young a prayer for the folks, and 141 00:08:00,777 --> 00:08:04,696 Speaker 2: it's March the third, and if you would join me 142 00:08:04,737 --> 00:08:07,777 Speaker 2: in prayer, I would appreciate that. And then when we're done, 143 00:08:07,816 --> 00:08:11,177 Speaker 2: I want to pray for you, precious Lord Jesus. I 144 00:08:11,217 --> 00:08:14,257 Speaker 2: love to hear you saying to me, I have called 145 00:08:14,297 --> 00:08:18,696 Speaker 2: you by name. You are mine. It's so comforting to 146 00:08:18,857 --> 00:08:22,497 Speaker 2: know that I belong to you, no matter how isolated 147 00:08:22,577 --> 00:08:27,217 Speaker 2: I sometimes feel. Thank you for redeeming me. By paying 148 00:08:27,257 --> 00:08:30,977 Speaker 2: the full penalty for my sins. I'm grateful that you 149 00:08:31,097 --> 00:08:34,776 Speaker 2: called me to yourself in the most personal way, reaching 150 00:08:34,857 --> 00:08:39,057 Speaker 2: down into the circumstances of my life, speaking into the 151 00:08:39,097 --> 00:08:42,937 Speaker 2: intricacies of my heart and mind. Even though you have 152 00:08:43,057 --> 00:08:46,097 Speaker 2: vast numbers of followers, I am never just a number 153 00:08:46,137 --> 00:08:51,057 Speaker 2: to you. You always speak to me by name. Scripture 154 00:08:51,137 --> 00:08:53,497 Speaker 2: tells me, I'm so precious to you that you have 155 00:08:53,577 --> 00:08:57,417 Speaker 2: inscribed me on the palms of your hands. Nothing can 156 00:08:57,457 --> 00:09:02,657 Speaker 2: separate me from your loving presence. When world events are 157 00:09:02,697 --> 00:09:06,537 Speaker 2: swirling around me and my personal world feels so unsteady, 158 00:09:07,177 --> 00:09:09,977 Speaker 2: I don't want to let my thoughts linger on those stressors. 159 00:09:10,657 --> 00:09:13,417 Speaker 2: Help me instead to focus my mind on the truth 160 00:09:14,017 --> 00:09:18,217 Speaker 2: and this is it. Although this world is full of trouble, 161 00:09:18,417 --> 00:09:21,817 Speaker 2: you are with me and you are in control. You're 162 00:09:21,857 --> 00:09:25,217 Speaker 2: training me to change the subject from my problems to 163 00:09:25,297 --> 00:09:30,017 Speaker 2: your presence by whispering but Jesus is with me, and 164 00:09:30,057 --> 00:09:36,257 Speaker 2: then turning to you and your victorious name. Amen. We're 165 00:09:36,257 --> 00:09:38,937 Speaker 2: so glad you joined us today. I told you you 166 00:09:38,937 --> 00:09:44,097 Speaker 2: would listen and enjoy Aaron's wonderful testimony and story and 167 00:09:44,177 --> 00:09:47,497 Speaker 2: what she is doing today for others. We'll be back 168 00:09:47,577 --> 00:09:51,297 Speaker 2: next time with another guest at another time, but until then, 169 00:09:53,217 --> 00:09:56,817 Speaker 2: just remember that Jesus hears you, he cares for you, 170 00:09:57,257 --> 00:10:00,977 Speaker 2: and he's just a prayer away. God bless you. I'm 171 00:10:01,017 --> 00:10:06,417 Speaker 2: Susie McIntyre. 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