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Speaker 2: Joe Rogan's been a bit of a mixed bag, but

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Speaker 2: and Steve O tried to make the case that all

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Speaker 3: Situation talk to this transiend this changed under a person like, hey,

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Speaker 3: And I spoke with them. They described to me a

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Speaker 5: We've got like polticys. Not true, they're just not allowed

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Speaker 5: And so you give them a fucking willy wank, a

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Speaker 2: So now I love this so much for a couple

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Speaker 2: I also love this because I assure you what he's saying,

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Speaker 2: ever anywhere? And Rogan does, And I assure you Stevo's

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Speaker 5: You're actually into women. Okay, that's real too, man, I

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Speaker 5: And uh, here's what's not complex. What is your chromosomes?

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Speaker 5: Okay, this is the same thing for competing all these

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Speaker 5: no one's gonna get hurt. No one's gonna get hurt.

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Speaker 5: This is the problem when you allow perverts to have

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Speaker 2: And there's so much of this interview and such importance

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Speaker 5: Here we are just not allowed to use the women's

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Speaker 6: Watch mentioned the Paxton case, and the ags in many

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Speaker 1: They're almost jubilant about.

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Speaker 6: Being able to use these laws to ban young people

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Speaker 6: And you are a principal, you have LGBT students in

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Speaker 6: could be for many people the very existence of transgender kids.

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Speaker 6: More and more people are saying there simply are no

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Speaker 2: That is a man dressed as a woman who won

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Speaker 2: just delivering the facts to you. I will let you

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Speaker 2: And for those of you who think that that's just

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Speaker 2: bring you a video that is made available to and

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Speaker 2: This is what they're giving your kids today.

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Speaker 4: We are actually going to be talking about tips for

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Speaker 4: you have to stick to it, and you're able to change.

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Speaker 4: You can evolve. I have had that experience myself in

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Speaker 4: evolution as a person. Number seven is binding. I'm actually

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Speaker 2: My understanding is that that was presented to six graders

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Speaker 2: six graders. Oh, Larry, come on, nobody's teaching kids in

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Speaker 2: queer trands. That's just a right wing fanatic talking point.

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Speaker 2: You're demonizing people. No old ones teaching kids about these things.

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Speaker 1: We report you decide. Have you decided yet?