WEBVTT - What Makes a Good Life? Kirk Cameron Exclusive Plus Tim Goeglein 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:03.440 Today's show sponsored by Lear Capital, the precious metals leader 0:00:03.480 --> 0:00:07.080 since nineteen ninety seven and only company I trust and 0:00:07.160 --> 0:00:09.879 recommend to my family, friends and viewers. 0:00:10.280 --> 0:00:12.720 Visit learlex dot com. 0:00:13.280 --> 0:00:16.080 He's editor in chief of Breitbart News and a New 0:00:16.160 --> 0:00:19.599 York Times best selling author, and on this podcast he 0:00:19.680 --> 0:00:22.960 brings deep research, prescient analysis at. 0:00:22.880 --> 0:00:24.320 World class guests. 0:00:24.640 --> 0:00:29.760 He's Alex Marlow and this is the Alex Marlow Show. 0:00:31.320 --> 0:00:31.600 All right. 0:00:31.640 --> 0:00:34.200 We are talking faith and family today on The Marlow Show. 0:00:34.240 --> 0:00:36.920 We've got none other than Mike sever himself, Kirk Cameron, 0:00:37.200 --> 0:00:39.879 followed by Tim Gaglin, who has been a veteran in 0:00:39.920 --> 0:00:42.080 the conservative movement for a long time now with focus 0:00:42.120 --> 0:00:44.600 on the family, and we were talking about what makes 0:00:44.680 --> 0:00:46.080 a good life. 0:00:46.000 --> 0:00:47.839 What could be better than that? Check it out. 0:00:47.880 --> 0:00:56.840 That's today's show, all right. New guests the Alex Marlow Show. 0:00:57.000 --> 0:00:59.440 Someone who probably should have reached out to a long 0:00:59.480 --> 0:01:01.840 time ago, because we're big admirers of his at Bright 0:01:01.880 --> 0:01:05.960 Part News. And that's Kirk Cameron, who left Hollywood famously 0:01:06.280 --> 0:01:09.520 because Hollywood was offering things I think went deeply against 0:01:09.560 --> 0:01:11.640 his Christian faith. He'll be commenting on that and a 0:01:11.640 --> 0:01:14.000 little bit. He's also got a huge new initiative with 0:01:14.040 --> 0:01:17.200 doctor Ben Carson and Riley Gaines celebrating America to fifty. 0:01:17.600 --> 0:01:18.600 That's also top. 0:01:18.440 --> 0:01:20.839 Of mind as well. But Kirk, I'm gonna will surprise 0:01:20.880 --> 0:01:23.080 you a little bit. You were such a fixture of 0:01:23.080 --> 0:01:24.880 my home growing up. We were a huge. 0:01:24.560 --> 0:01:29.480 Growing Pains family, and it's the you've done so much since. 0:01:29.840 --> 0:01:31.920 But how many people of the people, like, let's say, 0:01:31.959 --> 0:01:34.240 ten people stop you in the street, how many are still? 0:01:34.319 --> 0:01:35.640 Man, that was such a good show. 0:01:36.560 --> 0:01:39.080 Yeah, I think we all belong to have a show. 0:01:39.280 --> 0:01:41.000 All right, So we lost Kirk for a second. 0:01:41.200 --> 0:01:43.600 He's back, but now he's listed as Mike sever in 0:01:43.640 --> 0:01:44.800 the window, which is hilarious. 0:01:44.880 --> 0:01:46.560 So very good sense of humor is with you. 0:01:46.920 --> 0:01:49.040 I like, see we get a good time as Christian 0:01:49.080 --> 0:01:51.560 Americans like we don't. We're having a great time too. 0:01:52.120 --> 0:01:54.240 I asked you about Growing Pains. What was your what 0:01:54.280 --> 0:01:54.680 was your thoughts? 0:01:54.720 --> 0:01:54.920 Face? 0:01:54.960 --> 0:01:59.560 Yeah, let's see, I loved being on Growing Pains, by 0:01:59.600 --> 0:02:01.360 the way, and of course I got my sever in 0:02:01.360 --> 0:02:03.440 the corner as my id and who nobody else gets 0:02:03.480 --> 0:02:04.280 to do that except for me? 0:02:04.280 --> 0:02:05.800 I got to take full at the end. It's true, 0:02:05.840 --> 0:02:06.320 it's only you. 0:02:06.800 --> 0:02:09.400 I don't know ten people stop me in the grocery store. 0:02:10.360 --> 0:02:12.320 You know, some of them might give me dirty looks 0:02:13.040 --> 0:02:16.600 because I love God and I'm pro life and I'm 0:02:16.600 --> 0:02:19.400 pro America. But I would say that probably eight of 0:02:19.440 --> 0:02:22.680 them would say, hey, man, I love that show back 0:02:22.720 --> 0:02:26.359 in the day, and you know, do you think it's 0:02:26.360 --> 0:02:29.880 too late to turn the country around? Do you think 0:02:30.360 --> 0:02:33.600 it's all it's all going down here from downhill from here? 0:02:33.680 --> 0:02:36.720 Or do you think that there could be another great awakening? 0:02:36.960 --> 0:02:40.840 And of course I know history and I know my scriptures, 0:02:40.880 --> 0:02:43.840 and so I think the best has only yet begun. 0:02:45.560 --> 0:02:46.120 It's amazing. 0:02:46.400 --> 0:02:49.200 I feel the same way, but I have to admit 0:02:50.120 --> 0:02:53.040 that it is a bit feel though it's a I 0:02:53.080 --> 0:02:55.760 don't know if I can argue it as well as 0:02:55.760 --> 0:02:58.680 for me, I feel very optimistic about this country. I 0:02:58.680 --> 0:03:01.760 still feel like God to shine in America. But tell me, 0:03:02.000 --> 0:03:05.200 if what is your intellectual argument that the best is 0:03:05.280 --> 0:03:05.799 yet good? 0:03:05.960 --> 0:03:07.280 We're going to go deep. I love it. 0:03:09.160 --> 0:03:12.120 So I would say that if we look through life 0:03:12.480 --> 0:03:15.079 with this narrow lens, and I'm not saying that you're 0:03:15.120 --> 0:03:17.240 doing that, but it's easy to go off of how 0:03:17.280 --> 0:03:19.120 we feel and what we see right in front of us, 0:03:19.120 --> 0:03:23.720 because that's most arresting. But if we step back and 0:03:23.760 --> 0:03:27.520 we look at the wide angle view of all of history, 0:03:28.000 --> 0:03:31.160 we begin to see that we've got it so much 0:03:31.200 --> 0:03:33.960 better than they did back during the Roman Empire. Go 0:03:34.040 --> 0:03:37.200 back to the gladiatorial games, where Christians and people of 0:03:37.240 --> 0:03:39.800 moral virtue were being thrown to lions and lit on 0:03:39.880 --> 0:03:42.640 fire to illuminate gladiatorial games. 0:03:43.440 --> 0:03:47.000 Slavery wasn't just appalling. 0:03:47.480 --> 0:03:51.040 It was good business for every nation in the world 0:03:51.120 --> 0:03:53.119 if you wanted to build a wall or a pyramid, 0:03:53.200 --> 0:03:56.760 or run a country. And so the whole idea that 0:03:56.840 --> 0:03:59.360 things are so bad and only getting worse today is just, 0:03:59.720 --> 0:04:04.760 in my opinion, objectively historically not true. And we are 0:04:04.800 --> 0:04:09.200 only appalled at the moral nasties that we see today 0:04:09.240 --> 0:04:12.640 because we have been so civilized by the Gospel and 0:04:12.680 --> 0:04:18.400 by the Bible that we consider that stuff outrageous. Today, however, 0:04:18.880 --> 0:04:24.400 we're slowly sliding back into the swamp of paganism and 0:04:24.800 --> 0:04:28.919 idolatry and all sorts of perversions, because we're getting away 0:04:29.279 --> 0:04:32.400 from the very values that lifted us out of these 0:04:32.440 --> 0:04:37.840 things and toppled tyrannies and gave us representative government and 0:04:37.920 --> 0:04:40.920 moral ethics, and that ultimately comes from our faith. But 0:04:40.920 --> 0:04:42.920 if we get back to those things, I believe we're 0:04:42.960 --> 0:04:44.080 teed up for revival. 0:04:44.480 --> 0:04:47.880 And the scriptures and history are replete with that. Great 0:04:47.880 --> 0:04:48.720 awakenings come. 0:04:48.680 --> 0:04:54.120 During times of moral decline, spiritual apathy, economic collapse, and corruption. 0:04:54.760 --> 0:04:57.360 So we're teed up for one right now. 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But again, is this just am I rooting 0:07:10.080 --> 0:07:11.440 for this? Or do you think it's real? It is 0:07:11.480 --> 0:07:15.000 real and we're rooting for it. I know that I 0:07:15.040 --> 0:07:21.560 am again when when you and I are living in 0:07:21.560 --> 0:07:25.320 a world where things are not working, Promises are made 0:07:25.520 --> 0:07:29.840 but they're not kept, and we realize we've been sold 0:07:30.760 --> 0:07:37.560 a bag of horse manure from people politically, people economically, whatever, 0:07:38.360 --> 0:07:43.240 we say enough, this is happening on our watch. And 0:07:43.400 --> 0:07:45.760 those of us who are parents now we got a 0:07:45.760 --> 0:07:47.880 lot of skin in the game, and our children's futures 0:07:47.880 --> 0:07:48.440 are at stake. 0:07:48.680 --> 0:07:50.240 I don't want them to look back at me and go, 0:07:50.480 --> 0:07:51.240 what were you doing? 0:07:51.800 --> 0:07:54.880 Just sort of hanging out on the porch, Watch been 0:07:54.920 --> 0:07:57.480 throwing your hands up saying well, Jesus is coming soon. No, 0:07:57.840 --> 0:08:01.560 why don't you act like Saint Patrick of Ireland and 0:08:01.640 --> 0:08:04.000 do something about the Pagans. Why don't you act like 0:08:04.080 --> 0:08:07.480 King Alfred of Wessex in England and do something about 0:08:07.480 --> 0:08:10.800 the Vikings. We've got our own purple hair platoon. We've 0:08:10.840 --> 0:08:13.600 got our Marxist mafia who is after the hearts and 0:08:13.640 --> 0:08:17.240 minds of our kids and will torch their future and 0:08:17.320 --> 0:08:20.280 the future of our country and its liberties if we 0:08:20.360 --> 0:08:23.960 don't reattach the spiritual route and take back the education 0:08:24.040 --> 0:08:27.800 of our family, which is why guys like doctor Ben Carson, 0:08:28.720 --> 0:08:31.880 women like Riley Gaines and I are leaning in to 0:08:31.960 --> 0:08:34.040 play the long game by investing in the hearts and 0:08:34.080 --> 0:08:35.920 minds of children through the books that we're writing. 0:08:37.160 --> 0:08:40.960 Yeah, my natural follow up would be, so what are 0:08:41.000 --> 0:08:41.439 you doing? 0:08:41.520 --> 0:08:43.480 What should we be doing? And you've got a major 0:08:43.679 --> 0:08:44.520 new initiative. 0:08:45.000 --> 0:08:47.960 What you're doing with doctor Carson, who is familiar to 0:08:47.960 --> 0:08:50.200 my audience, and Riley Gaines is familiar to everyone at 0:08:50.200 --> 0:08:50.680 this point. 0:08:51.080 --> 0:08:52.520 Tell me about what the plan is. 0:08:52.600 --> 0:08:54.960 Well, the plan is we got to stop whining and 0:08:55.000 --> 0:08:59.120 start winning. We've got to stop complaining about about a 0:08:59.200 --> 0:09:01.960 bent and crooked culture and replace it with something else. 0:09:02.240 --> 0:09:05.319 Because I believe that we, as people who love God, 0:09:05.360 --> 0:09:08.680 love America, love our family, we have been tasked with 0:09:08.760 --> 0:09:12.520 culture creation, not to just demonize the culture and try 0:09:12.520 --> 0:09:13.200 to escape it. 0:09:13.559 --> 0:09:16.600 Look, this happened on our watch. 0:09:17.040 --> 0:09:20.080 And so what we're trying to do is put tools 0:09:20.120 --> 0:09:23.360 weapons in the hands of parents and grandparents to sit 0:09:23.400 --> 0:09:26.840 down with your kids and win the war, one family 0:09:27.120 --> 0:09:29.160 at a time by reading them great stories. 0:09:30.000 --> 0:09:33.520 Mine is all about. It's called Built by the Brave, 0:09:33.960 --> 0:09:34.559 and it's. 0:09:34.480 --> 0:09:37.040 All yeah, and I just want to kirk, I want 0:09:37.040 --> 0:09:38.600 to be really clear with people. 0:09:38.679 --> 0:09:40.280 So this is an initiative with Brave Books. 0:09:40.280 --> 0:09:43.760 You guys got going the America Winds series that you 0:09:43.800 --> 0:09:44.440 guys are doing. 0:09:44.559 --> 0:09:46.199 Yeah, tell me about this is what it's called the 0:09:46.240 --> 0:09:47.480 America Winds Bundle. 0:09:47.640 --> 0:09:50.520 It's three books, one written by Ben Carson, Riley Gaines 0:09:50.800 --> 0:09:53.640 and Me about the faith of America, the bravery of 0:09:53.880 --> 0:09:58.240 early Americans, and the accomplishments of Americans. To help children 0:09:58.240 --> 0:10:00.480 to understand our country is something you should be proud of. 0:10:00.480 --> 0:10:03.160 I'm not ashamed of. Billie Eilish says, you know you 0:10:03.160 --> 0:10:05.520 should be ashamed. We're all living on stolen land. Time 0:10:05.559 --> 0:10:08.760 Magazine says, you start forth of July celebrations with Juneteenth, 0:10:08.960 --> 0:10:13.120 and remember what awful centers you are. And we need 0:10:13.120 --> 0:10:17.160 to take back to the narrative and say we're not perfect. 0:10:17.559 --> 0:10:20.839 But America's victories and accomplishments and faith and courage is 0:10:20.960 --> 0:10:23.640 unique in the world. That's why everybody wants to come 0:10:23.720 --> 0:10:27.200 here for the opportunity and the liberty. And so don't 0:10:27.240 --> 0:10:31.200 believe the Marxists who want to indoctrinate your kids. You 0:10:31.360 --> 0:10:34.600 take charge of what they're learning and teach them why 0:10:34.600 --> 0:10:38.360 they should be grateful, humbled and proud to be an American. 0:10:39.679 --> 0:10:41.360 And you guys, you know to brave books. I US 0:10:41.480 --> 0:10:42.840 is right on the front, so you can't miss it. 0:10:42.840 --> 0:10:46.800 So it's Kirkstaff with Riley and doctor Carson. It's all great, 0:10:46.840 --> 0:10:49.960 and this is so important that it's we can't be 0:10:50.000 --> 0:10:52.599 feeding our children garbage and is not enough just to 0:10:52.640 --> 0:10:55.920 complain about it. You do have to ultimately create new 0:10:56.040 --> 0:10:58.680 art with people in mind who are people of faith, 0:10:58.720 --> 0:11:01.080 people conservative pople who don't generally just hate this country. 0:11:01.480 --> 0:11:03.440 But it's a long road. So tell me some of 0:11:03.440 --> 0:11:04.400 the stuff. 0:11:04.080 --> 0:11:06.440 That you feel like people should be doing to get 0:11:06.480 --> 0:11:10.200 activated here in terms of culture, not just opining them 0:11:10.280 --> 0:11:13.360 upon it, but also creating in ourselves. 0:11:14.080 --> 0:11:14.520 What do we do? 0:11:14.760 --> 0:11:18.400 That's that's the great question you mentioned. Just so many 0:11:18.480 --> 0:11:21.040 people who hate our country. It's interesting. They don't actually 0:11:21.080 --> 0:11:23.480 hate our country. They just want to control it because 0:11:23.520 --> 0:11:25.680 it's the awesomest country in the whole world. That's what 0:11:25.720 --> 0:11:29.040 they want, right, They want They just want to come inside, infiltrate, 0:11:29.120 --> 0:11:32.120 take over the power structures and the institutions so that 0:11:32.200 --> 0:11:35.880 they can drive. They can drive the ship because we're 0:11:35.880 --> 0:11:38.920 the biggest, we're the best, We're the greatest, and it 0:11:38.960 --> 0:11:40.080 ought to be used for good. 0:11:40.640 --> 0:11:41.960 With regard to what do we do? 0:11:44.800 --> 0:11:48.720 I think that a little Middle Earth wisdom is appropriate here. 0:11:49.040 --> 0:11:52.480 And I'm going to quote Gandolf the Gray from Lord 0:11:52.480 --> 0:11:55.360 of the Rings, and he said to Frodo during difficult times, 0:11:55.679 --> 0:11:59.520 other evils there are fro do that shall come. For 0:11:59.640 --> 0:12:03.160 even sar On himself is but an emissary or a servant. 0:12:04.080 --> 0:12:07.200 Yet it is not our task to master all the 0:12:07.320 --> 0:12:11.160 tides of the earth. But rather to do what is 0:12:11.320 --> 0:12:16.880 in us for the help of those years wherein we 0:12:17.040 --> 0:12:20.440 are set uprooting the evil in the fields we know, 0:12:21.240 --> 0:12:23.439 so that those who live after us will have clean 0:12:23.480 --> 0:12:24.280 earth to till. 0:12:25.160 --> 0:12:27.720 What weather they shall have is not ours to rule. 0:12:28.880 --> 0:12:31.680 So brother, what our task is, what we do is 0:12:32.559 --> 0:12:36.040 not try to extinguish all the evils politically, economically, morally 0:12:36.040 --> 0:12:38.760 and spiritually we can't, but to do what we can 0:12:38.840 --> 0:12:41.240 while we've got breath in our lungs now, for the 0:12:41.280 --> 0:12:45.880 help of these years, this decade, this generation, uprooting evil 0:12:46.040 --> 0:12:50.120 where we can planting seeds of truth and goodness and 0:12:50.160 --> 0:12:52.880 beauty so that our children and grandchildren, those who live 0:12:52.920 --> 0:12:55.880 after us will have clean earth to till. And then 0:12:55.920 --> 0:12:59.600 they'll be able to handle the political storms and the 0:12:59.760 --> 0:13:04.959 more whirlwinds that come at them, because what they watched 0:13:05.000 --> 0:13:10.240 you and me and Carson and Riley Gaines and remembered 0:13:10.280 --> 0:13:13.200 the stories of George Washington and Abraham Lincoln and the 0:13:13.240 --> 0:13:16.000 Pilgrims and others who did it in their generation, and 0:13:16.040 --> 0:13:19.040 they'll know what to do. I think that's how we 0:13:19.120 --> 0:13:21.280 get on the right road, and we keep going and 0:13:21.320 --> 0:13:22.200 we don't quit. 0:13:23.960 --> 0:13:26.439 Very well done. And I enjoyed the Gandalff performance. You 0:13:26.440 --> 0:13:29.120 should try acting. You can probably get at it. Right now. 0:13:29.160 --> 0:13:34.320 I'm just waiting for a few more grades to come in. Yeah, 0:13:32.640 --> 0:13:36.600 it's one day, so talk to me a little bit. 0:13:36.640 --> 0:13:38.480 Let's go back a step and everyone should go to 0:13:38.480 --> 0:13:40.440 Great Books dot Us and support what they're doing. 0:13:40.600 --> 0:13:42.079 I really admire what they're doing there. 0:13:42.360 --> 0:13:45.280 And three great people to support with Riley and doctor Carson, 0:13:45.320 --> 0:13:46.480 both of them I think will be in the show 0:13:46.520 --> 0:13:48.640 coming up. So we'll do we'll do a three parter 0:13:48.720 --> 0:13:52.200 on this one. But you had so much going for 0:13:52.280 --> 0:13:56.760 you in Hollywood and you did something that I think 0:13:56.800 --> 0:14:00.000 a lot of us would believe in but is very 0:14:00.120 --> 0:14:02.560 hard to do. And just to extract yourself from that 0:14:03.280 --> 0:14:07.400 when you had already were at the top of top 0:14:07.480 --> 0:14:09.840 of the industry and your whole future ahead of you, 0:14:10.400 --> 0:14:12.320 and you thought, you know what, this is costing me 0:14:12.400 --> 0:14:15.400 more spiritually that it's gaining me in terms of a career. 0:14:16.520 --> 0:14:19.480 Look back on your decision to kind of leave Hollywood 0:14:19.480 --> 0:14:20.560 and take your own approach. 0:14:20.600 --> 0:14:22.840 How's it going this far? All's going great. I'm looking 0:14:22.840 --> 0:14:24.360 at this, I'm talking to you here. 0:14:24.360 --> 0:14:26.560 I am all these decades later and I'm talking to 0:14:26.600 --> 0:14:29.320 you on your show about stuff that I'm passionate about. 0:14:29.680 --> 0:14:31.880 And some people say, yeah, you walked away from Hollywood. 0:14:32.000 --> 0:14:33.960 The truth is I never really walked away from Hollywood. 0:14:33.960 --> 0:14:37.280 I walked away from a career that I wanted to 0:14:37.320 --> 0:14:40.040 have to be a doctor. When I was a little kid, 0:14:40.080 --> 0:14:42.280 I never wanted to be an editor. I couldn't stand 0:14:42.280 --> 0:14:44.000 while my mom made me brush my hair, tuck in 0:14:44.000 --> 0:14:46.119 my shirt and do these like McDonald's auditions. 0:14:47.640 --> 0:14:49.360 But it worked. 0:14:49.680 --> 0:14:52.040 I got the McDonald's commercial and that turned into the 0:14:52.040 --> 0:14:54.600 growing pains part, and that turned into getting married to 0:14:54.640 --> 0:14:58.640 my girlfriend. We've now got six children, two grandchildren, and 0:14:58.840 --> 0:15:02.240 I'm fighting for the culture. I love this country, and 0:15:02.280 --> 0:15:04.960 I went from an atheist to a Christian, and. 0:15:05.560 --> 0:15:07.200 I feel like I hit the jackpot. 0:15:07.480 --> 0:15:13.120 So to slide back to a lower position of an 0:15:13.160 --> 0:15:18.000 Academy Award winning actor in Hollywood promoting the destruction of 0:15:18.160 --> 0:15:21.720 the hearts and minds of children has never been on 0:15:21.760 --> 0:15:25.200 my bucket list. I feel like I've got the greatest 0:15:25.280 --> 0:15:28.280 job and position in the world, and that is I 0:15:28.400 --> 0:15:32.080 get to be a husband, a father, and somebody who 0:15:32.120 --> 0:15:33.600 responds to the grace of God. 0:15:35.440 --> 0:15:38.480 So a few years ago you moved to Tennessee unless 0:15:38.480 --> 0:15:40.320 that's changed. I think that was the last time I 0:15:40.400 --> 0:15:43.600 had reported on it. And what are your thoughts on 0:15:43.680 --> 0:15:46.120 just the general decline of Hollywood, because I find myself 0:15:46.160 --> 0:15:48.960 back out in the Hollywood area after leaving. We went 0:15:49.000 --> 0:15:52.880 back for my wife's work recently, and it's kind of 0:15:53.120 --> 0:15:53.920 depressing town. 0:15:54.000 --> 0:15:54.200 Now. 0:15:54.520 --> 0:15:56.480 A lot of Hollywood is not Hollywood. A lot of 0:15:56.480 --> 0:15:58.720 it's in Winnipeg, a lot of it's in Georgia, a 0:15:58.720 --> 0:16:00.960 lot of it is now AI. I'm asked about AI. 0:16:00.800 --> 0:16:01.200 In a second. 0:16:01.240 --> 0:16:03.720 A lot of it's sort of sort of in computer 0:16:03.760 --> 0:16:04.800 servers somewhere. 0:16:05.320 --> 0:16:08.360 But evaluate the move to Tennessee, what's that like? 0:16:08.440 --> 0:16:11.400 And just kind of watching Hollywood continue to I think 0:16:11.480 --> 0:16:13.760 eat itself alive for all sorts of different reasons from Afar. 0:16:13.880 --> 0:16:17.760 Well, first of all, I did move from California. But 0:16:17.880 --> 0:16:19.880 now that I'm in Tennessee and people ask me where 0:16:19.880 --> 0:16:24.560 I'm from, I'm quick to say I escaped from California 0:16:25.000 --> 0:16:27.960 two years ago, and I sought asylum in your beautiful 0:16:27.960 --> 0:16:31.520 Red state because there's so many Californians here and New 0:16:31.640 --> 0:16:33.800 Yorker's here, and I think they need to go through 0:16:33.800 --> 0:16:36.240 a decontamination process. We need to have some sort of 0:16:36.280 --> 0:16:39.480 like a tank that they passed through first. By the 0:16:39.480 --> 0:16:41.600 way they drive, they've still got some California and New 0:16:41.680 --> 0:16:45.360 York on them. But we moved here primarily for our children. 0:16:45.680 --> 0:16:49.960 We weren't escaping California. We were pursuing relationship with our 0:16:50.040 --> 0:16:53.760 kids and our grandkids. And we love California. We want 0:16:53.800 --> 0:16:59.480 to see revival in California. It's a beautiful state. And 0:17:00.040 --> 0:17:02.040 you know what you see happening in Hollywood is just 0:17:02.160 --> 0:17:07.960 I think the inevitable end of. 0:17:06.200 --> 0:17:07.600 Of cancerous systems. 0:17:08.400 --> 0:17:11.880 Cancer can't last forever in a host, right, It eventually 0:17:11.920 --> 0:17:14.320 is going to eat itself and kill its own host. 0:17:14.840 --> 0:17:18.640 That's the that's the that's the sickness of cancer. And 0:17:18.880 --> 0:17:22.880 when you have a moral cancer in something that is 0:17:23.080 --> 0:17:28.320 as unfortunately, I guess it's it's fortunate when Hollywood does 0:17:28.359 --> 0:17:30.200 good things, but it's unfortunate when it does bad things 0:17:30.520 --> 0:17:33.560 and you have something that's so cancerous that promotes every 0:17:33.720 --> 0:17:42.120 every vice and you know, epic sin from uh, pride, greed, lust, morality. 0:17:42.760 --> 0:17:47.040 I'm sorry, pride, reed, lust, envy, anger, wrath, all that stuff. 0:17:47.680 --> 0:17:50.680 It eventually just rots from the inside out. And that's 0:17:50.720 --> 0:17:54.760 why I'm thrilled that it has diversified. And now you've 0:17:55.040 --> 0:17:56.880 got it coming out of Atlanta, You've got it coming 0:17:56.920 --> 0:17:57.600 out of Winnipeg. 0:17:57.600 --> 0:18:00.239 You've got to come on out of Toronto and other places. Now, 0:18:00.240 --> 0:18:03.240 anybody with an iPhone can make a movie. You can 0:18:03.280 --> 0:18:05.760 do good or bad. You're not shut in by the 0:18:05.760 --> 0:18:10.520 gatekeepers in Hollywood. So what's your take on AI? Because 0:18:11.000 --> 0:18:15.600 this is a two parter, Because I have some optimism 0:18:15.720 --> 0:18:17.600 for AI. We've been thinking about this a lot, reported 0:18:17.680 --> 0:18:19.200 a lot at Breitbart. 0:18:18.840 --> 0:18:21.400 And one of the things that's going on is it's 0:18:21.440 --> 0:18:25.600 going to democratize art creation more. But I don't know 0:18:25.640 --> 0:18:27.919 if art's gotten better since it's gotten more democratized in 0:18:27.960 --> 0:18:30.400 recent years. So I really am kind of mixed on that. 0:18:30.560 --> 0:18:34.120 But also from a faith perspective, I feel like it's 0:18:34.119 --> 0:18:38.080 a good opportunity for people to understand the Bible as 0:18:38.119 --> 0:18:42.000 a AI could be a real good teaching tool, But 0:18:42.080 --> 0:18:44.639 I'm also seeing it being used in pretty blasphemous ways 0:18:44.760 --> 0:18:47.920 with AI confessions going on and AI sermons, And I 0:18:48.000 --> 0:18:49.320 got to be frank with you, sometimes I feel like 0:18:49.359 --> 0:18:51.000 the Pope is made of AI, Like he just says 0:18:51.040 --> 0:18:52.000 stuff that I feel like. 0:18:53.480 --> 0:18:56.879 Is so generic that I can't believe it. Tell me 0:18:56.880 --> 0:18:57.439 where you're. 0:18:57.320 --> 0:18:59.640 At on this as from a spiritual perspective. 0:18:59.359 --> 0:19:04.480 Well, I'm probably not qualified enough to speak with any 0:19:04.560 --> 0:19:07.000 kind of authority on this. It's brand new for all 0:19:07.040 --> 0:19:10.919 of us, maybe even newer for me. But one of 0:19:10.920 --> 0:19:13.919 the things that I do see with my kids and 0:19:14.320 --> 0:19:19.160 some of my colleagues is the mistrust in what we see. 0:19:19.280 --> 0:19:20.960 You know, we used to be able to say seeing 0:19:21.040 --> 0:19:23.959 is believing, show me proof. Well, now you can have 0:19:24.160 --> 0:19:27.640 a deep fake video generated by AI that you can't 0:19:27.640 --> 0:19:30.240 tell the difference between that and reality anymore. 0:19:30.880 --> 0:19:36.520 Could it be that it forces us back to analog real. 0:19:37.880 --> 0:19:44.119 Things and the whole digital miracle has just cannibalized itself 0:19:44.119 --> 0:19:45.560 and no one trusts it anymore. 0:19:46.280 --> 0:19:46.760 I don't know. 0:19:47.000 --> 0:19:50.359 I think it's fascinating. I love the tools and the 0:19:51.440 --> 0:19:57.040 democratization of information and skills like you talked about, but 0:19:57.160 --> 0:20:00.840 I don't know where it's going. What gives me, what 0:20:00.960 --> 0:20:04.160