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Speaker 4: All right, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. Hour
Speaker 4: two is underway. We are joined by Jason Rants, a
Speaker 4: Seattle survivor, longtime Seattle resident, and he's got a website
Speaker 4: Seattlered dot com Seattle red dot com. Jason, welcome back
Speaker 4: to the Charlie Kirk Show. It's good to see you.
Speaker 3: Good to see you. Thanks for having me.
Speaker 4: You know, we were on a show last night together
Speaker 4: with Katie Pavlich and NewsNation arguing about the virtues of
Speaker 4: sanctuary cities, and we had the what is that guy's name?
Speaker 2: Chris Hahn, the aggressive Progressive, and.
Speaker 4: I couldn't hear you half the time because he kept
Speaker 4: interrupting us. So I was like, Jason, we have to
Speaker 4: have you back on the show. So explain to us
Speaker 4: what is going on in Seattle, then relate it to Minnesota.
Speaker 4: You have been around these communist front groups longer than
Speaker 4: just about anybody in the country. You see it up
Speaker 4: close and personal in the Pacific north West. How big
Speaker 4: is this movement? How militarized are they, how organized are they?
Speaker 4: Explain it for our audience, please, Jason Rants.
Speaker 5: So, it is very organized, but it's not nearly as
Speaker 5: large as it once was. And I was thinking about
Speaker 5: it this morning for Kalum I'm doing I mean, go
Speaker 5: back to Black Lives Matter in twenty twenty, and this
Speaker 5: was right at the start really of the pandemic, before
Speaker 5: a lot of people came to their senses and they
Speaker 5: were terrified to go outside because we were told not to.
Speaker 5: And yet there were millions of people nationwide who actually did,
Speaker 5: in fact take to the streets, and that was all
Speaker 5: based on a lie. Cut to what's been going on
Speaker 5: for the last few months, the organizing has arguably gotten
Speaker 5: even more favorable press coverage. There's still a lot of
Speaker 5: misinformation and just flat out lies happening, and yet we're
Speaker 5: not seeing the same number of people out on the ground.
Speaker 5: It's the same folks over and over and over again
Speaker 5: who are showing up in shorts. It's grown a little bit,
Speaker 5: there's no doubt about that. And not everyone who shows
Speaker 5: up to these protests are sort of that professional activist class.
Speaker 5: But the same level of organizing, the same level of
Speaker 5: strategy is at play, and it's this progressive protest industrial
Speaker 5: complex where you've got a bunch of folks in this case,
Speaker 5: either activists within the community who are part of the organization,
Speaker 5: or it's Democrat lawmakers far left lawmakers who are encouraging
Speaker 5: you in this case, to interfere with ICE operations, go
Speaker 5: out there, get in their faces, put your bodies on
Speaker 5: the line. That's a quote from some of these lawmakers
Speaker 5: and activists, And they end up creating a situation in
Speaker 5: which someone likes Alex pretty ends up getting killed. Then
Speaker 5: they use that death to create more outrage. That then
Speaker 5: just creates that vicious circle to get more people to
Speaker 5: then go out and interfere with ICE and put their
Speaker 5: bodies on the line and then lead to this next
Speaker 5: confrontation that ends up taking someone's life.
Speaker 3: And it just makes folks a whole bunch of money.
Speaker 5: It gets people more follows on social media, and it
Speaker 5: gets them more favorable coverage, and we see this happening
Speaker 5: over and over and over again. It's not going to stop,
Speaker 5: but it's certainly not growing at the same level that
Speaker 5: the BLM movement grew. And that's obviously a good thing
Speaker 5: because it means at least some of the American voters,
Speaker 5: the average person who's looking at this, are saying, Okay,
Speaker 5: we want sensible immigration reform, we want some semblance of
Speaker 5: immigration law being enforced, and they're not falling for the
Speaker 5: far left position that underlines everything that they're doing here.
Speaker 5: They are against, on the radical left all enforcement of
Speaker 5: immigration laws. That is a radical position that is not
Speaker 5: shared by the vast majority of this country, and I
Speaker 5: think that explains why we're not seeing this movement grow
Speaker 5: at the same level as we saw during the DLM movement.
Speaker 6: So, Jason, you've seen this unfold over a pretty long
Speaker 6: period of time.
Speaker 2: In Seattle.
Speaker 6: They've had Antifa type stuff for ages, they had the
Speaker 6: explosion of homelessness there. It felt like Seattle was in
Speaker 6: a really severe crisis about five years ago. I remember
Speaker 6: Seattle is dying and all of that, And it seems
Speaker 6: to me, obviously it's still a blue city. Obviously it
Speaker 6: still has a lot of problems, but it does seem
Speaker 6: to have pulled back from the autonomous zone level crisis
Speaker 6: they were in. Are there any lessons from that for
Speaker 6: how the whole country might regard this national Antifa as
Speaker 6: they how do people how do you defeat this process
Speaker 6: that they enact on us to use the kind of
Speaker 6: weaponize weakness against the system.
Speaker 5: Well, it's interesting because had we had this conversation a
Speaker 5: few months ago, my answer would have been a little
Speaker 5: bit more clear as it's going to be because Unfortunately,
Speaker 5: the voters just took a giant step backwards, or took
Speaker 5: a mile backwards, because after all that nonsense with the
Speaker 5: autonomous zone, the voters put in place someone who is
Speaker 5: least perceived to be a little bit more moderate. Now
Speaker 5: I didn't view our last mayor as moderate, but he
Speaker 5: was booted out of office for a socialist, an open socialist,
Speaker 5: who has already instituted a bunch of plans. That's sending
Speaker 5: us back in the wrong direction. So I don't know
Speaker 5: if Seattle voters learn their lesson. Now, if you look
Speaker 5: back and you're just kind of dweeby like me, and
Speaker 5: you look at the general I don't know algorithm of voters.
Speaker 5: Here is the Seattle base of radicals. They push us
Speaker 5: very very very far to the left. Then the voters say, okay,
Speaker 5: let's dial it back a notch. Then you see some results.
Speaker 5: But then they go and say, okay, well, now that
Speaker 5: we saw some of course correction, let's go back in
Speaker 5: the crazy direction. And so that's where we're at right now.
Speaker 5: We're headed back in that crazy direction. And you know,
Speaker 5: this whole idea of the protesters and how organized they are,
Speaker 5: Like yesterday, there was yet another march in downtown Seattle,
Speaker 5: you know, ruining all the traffic again, and they were
Speaker 5: doing this because they wanted to speak in solidarity with
Speaker 5: what's going on in Minneapolis. Again, it's the same people
Speaker 5: who show up every single time who are engaged in this,
Speaker 5: and they're allowed to do whatever it is they want
Speaker 5: to do because they're doing it for some quote unquote
Speaker 5: righteous position.
Speaker 3: And that's how it's going to unfold.
Speaker 5: I imagine there's gonna be another one today and another
Speaker 5: one tomorrow, and it's going to be the same people
Speaker 5: showing up. So I don't know if we've actually truly
Speaker 5: learned a lesson, because we never seem to learn our
Speaker 5: lesson for more than four years at a time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're talking Katie Wilson. She's a real peach,
Speaker 2: by the way.
Speaker 4: And you guys are gonna have a massive problem with
Speaker 4: Somali fraud rings as well. In the state of Washington.
Speaker 4: They are rampant their Jonathan Choe, who's with Tbosa front Lines,
Speaker 4: has been doing investigations on that. It's this is an
Speaker 4: emerging story that you guys are gonna have to confront.
Speaker 4: I'm worried that if we don't squash this right now, Jason,
Speaker 4: with a massive show of force, which seems like we're
Speaker 4: going in the opposite direction. We're gonna have an even
Speaker 4: tougher problem in cities like Seattle, Portland, Los Angeles, Chicago
Speaker 4: come the spring and summer months when the weather's better.
Speaker 4: So are you worried about seeing that as well? I mean,
Speaker 4: because you could let this stuff peter out and then
Speaker 4: it flares up again, peter out, flares up again, or
Speaker 4: you could squash it definitively. And I don't like seeing
Speaker 4: guys like Bovino be left out on you know, to
Speaker 4: take you know, take the rap for everybody here. I
Speaker 4: want to see us squash this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he should not take the rap.
Speaker 5: However, I do think it's reasonable to say or a
Speaker 5: criticism is that I don't think he handled this over
Speaker 5: the weekend particularly well, and I think the President is
Speaker 5: trying to clean that all up. The President has been
Speaker 5: really good about putting competent people in positions of power
Speaker 5: and just sort of letting them take the lead and
Speaker 5: he'll come in when he needs to, and he obviously
Speaker 5: needed to.
Speaker 3: Immediately.
Speaker 5: Calling Alex Pretty a domestic terrorist was a unwise decision.
Speaker 5: It was not going to play in the context of
Speaker 5: even the video that we had at the time. To
Speaker 5: just merely jump to that that quickly, knowing that the
Speaker 5: left wing media is never ever, ever going to be
Speaker 5: sympathetic to any messaging coming from ICE or coming from
Speaker 5: CBP or from this administration just seemed like an unforced error.
Speaker 5: I think the President is making the right move and
Speaker 5: putting Tom Homean in charge for now. I don't think
Speaker 5: Bovino again, to your point, he shouldn't be just thrown
Speaker 5: under the bus for any of this now. There should
Speaker 5: be should we do that to Christy.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 5: However, I don't think that they handled the messaging well
Speaker 5: in this case, and it seemed to be put out
Speaker 5: there in a way that I completely understand.
Speaker 3: Right, wanting to.
Speaker 5: Immediately back your staff, whether again it's Border patrol, ice
Speaker 5: or any law enforcement makes sense because the context has
Speaker 5: been no matter what it is they do, they're going
Speaker 5: to be thrown under the bus by left wing media.
Speaker 5: They're going to be relentlessly attacked, and so the natural
Speaker 5: instinct is to protect them. But the way you protect
Speaker 5: them does matter, And the initial messaging went a little
Speaker 5: bit too far. They did it without the evidence on
Speaker 5: their side, And look, there were conservatives who called out
Speaker 5: some of the messaging around one's right to bare arms
Speaker 5: and have a concealed carry. You know, it's obviously not
Speaker 5: illegal in Minnesota to have concealed carry while going into
Speaker 5: a protest. It doesn't mean that what he did was wise.
Speaker 5: It very clearly wasn't. And had they focused on I
Speaker 5: think they would have won that messaging, or at least
Speaker 5: had a little bit more of an upper hand.
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Speaker 4: All right, so we got to talk about some of
Speaker 4: the lib freakout. Jason, you live in a very liberal city, Seattle.
Speaker 4: I don't know why you're still up in Seattle, by
Speaker 4: the way, but God bless you for braving up there.
Speaker 4: I went to University of Washington. I appreciate Seattle. Utiful city,
Speaker 4: very crazy city. So these people are crazy, They are
Speaker 4: dangerous people. These are provocateurs, right, they are agitators, they're
Speaker 4: communists often three h two, this is an Antifa member.
Speaker 4: Get your reaction on the other side.
Speaker 7: Show up, ready to go. Okay, No, not talking about
Speaker 7: peaceful protests anymore. We're not talking about having polite conversations anymore. Sorry,
Speaker 7: but welcome to America twenty twenty six, where Second Amendment
Speaker 7: is the only thing that's going to keep you protected
Speaker 7: from literal Tazi gunmen that are killing innocent people in
Speaker 7: the street with impunity. This is not a joke. There's
Speaker 7: nothing fun to chant about it. Get your guns and
Speaker 7: stop these people.
Speaker 2: That's probably your neighbor, Jason. How am I supposed to
Speaker 2: do with this? This is radical stuff.
Speaker 5: What we're supposed to do with it is, call it
Speaker 5: out and ensure that this kind of mess isn't normalized.
Speaker 5: And that's been the reality, I think for the last
Speaker 5: several years, is that kind of messaging was completely normalized,
Speaker 5: where you've got these sad people, lonely people, dangerous people
Speaker 5: who have convinced themselves that they're actual heroes, that they're
Speaker 5: freedom fighters, and if not for their violence and activism,
Speaker 5: we would be headed towards a fascist country. They believe
Speaker 5: we're already in that space. And that's the sad part,
Speaker 5: and that's why so many people, yourself included, myself included,
Speaker 5: we've talked about this for the last several years of
Speaker 5: when you've got radical leftists who are in positions of power,
Speaker 5: who are out there as recently as yesterday and over
Speaker 5: the weekend talking about how you know, they're fighting Nazis,
Speaker 5: the Gestapo, they're fighting Adolf Hitler and Karnate. We know
Speaker 5: that that's incredibly dangerous. It's not just hyperbole, and they
Speaker 5: know it's not just hyperbole, and that it's inspiring their
Speaker 5: base to commit these kinds of violent acts or at
Speaker 5: least threatened them. And you know, so the attention has
Speaker 5: to be on unnormalizing and stigmatizing again this kind of language.
Speaker 5: The reality is there's always going to be crazy people
Speaker 5: out there, and people get inspired by all sorts of things.
Speaker 5: The question is whether or not the messaging inspiring some
Speaker 5: of these people are delivered in good faith or not.
Speaker 5: And when you've got and frank references by Tim Wilson,
Speaker 5: that's not delivered in good faith. When you've got Gavin
Speaker 5: Newsom out there, it's not delivered in good faith. It's
Speaker 5: intended to create this kind of violence, and at least
Speaker 5: at a bare minimum, this kind of violent rhetoric. And
Speaker 5: they believe that they benefit from it because they keep
Speaker 5: getting rewarded by left wing press for these kinds of statements.
Speaker 5: And you know the good news is you know that
Speaker 5: individual that you just played is Venmo was taken down.
Speaker 5: I believe his Instagram has been taken down. He now
Speaker 5: says he's on the run, trying to now flip this
Speaker 5: into him being some kind of victim.
Speaker 3: He's not the victim. He is the bad guy in
Speaker 3: the story.
Speaker 4: That's right, speaking of bad guys and not normalizing bad behavior.
Speaker 2: You are in Seattle, so I have to ask you
Speaker 2: about the Super Bowl.
Speaker 4: Bad Bunny will dress to impress us at the super Bowl,
Speaker 4: but won't wear a dress.
Speaker 2: So this is new.
Speaker 4: This is breaking, breaking, re dress breaking, no dress, Jason, So.
Speaker 2: This is cowardice. He's just backing down. He blinked, he blinked.
Speaker 2: What so yeah, give us your respect.
Speaker 5: He should be wearing a dress, or he shouldn't be performing.
Speaker 5: If you're gonna go all in, you might as well
Speaker 5: just go I want it all in Spanish and I
Speaker 5: want it in a dress.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so bad bunny.
Speaker 4: He did not include US and concert tours for fear
Speaker 4: in his tour. So he didn't, in clear us include
Speaker 4: US tour stops in his tour because of fear of
Speaker 4: ice raids.
Speaker 2: And you know, now we're hearing.
Speaker 4: Super Bowl twenty twenty six ice agents to conduct enforcement
Speaker 4: as Trump boycotts the game.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of layers here to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 4: You are a Seattle resident, give us your POV on
Speaker 4: this Super Bowl and in the much much discussed halftime show.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I will say this season has felt a little
Speaker 5: bit different, that we've kind of gotten away from a
Speaker 5: lot of the wokeness.
Speaker 3: There's no doubt it's become less woke as a league.
Speaker 5: I enjoy watching hometown teams in whether it's a Super
Speaker 5: Bowl or World Series fingers crossed next year. So I'm
Speaker 5: not going to boycott something that I might actually enjoy
Speaker 5: because of a bunch of lunatics. I don't particularly care
Speaker 5: about the halftime show. I didn't really know who Bad
Speaker 5: Bunny was when he became all controversial. I kind of
Speaker 5: heard of him, but not really followed anything. I will
Speaker 5: do what I normally do during the halftime, which is
Speaker 5: just not watch. I focus on the game. And you know,
Speaker 5: to the extent that anyone enjoys.
Speaker 3: The super Bowl, watch the super Bowl. That's what you enjoy.
Speaker 3: Not allow wokes goold.
Speaker 4: I have to I have to interject here, Jason, we
Speaker 4: do have a All American halftime show that we would
Speaker 4: we would gladly welcome you to watch you. It'll be
Speaker 4: all over X, all over YouTube, all over, all over rumble.
Speaker 4: So yep, there it is the All American Halftime Show.
Speaker 4: We do not say the other word in that in
Speaker 4: that sentence for fear of legal reprisal, but do eight.
Speaker 2: To twenty five All American Halftime Show.
Speaker 4: We're gonna have more details on that next week, so
Speaker 4: please do stay tuned.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, I think this is a really interesting.
Speaker 4: Touch point actually just as a culture, because you know,
Speaker 4: we have a guy that seems to not really like
Speaker 4: America performing at the biggest stage that we have, and
Speaker 4: that's a that's a really unfortunate reality.
Speaker 2: Go ahead, Jason, it is.
Speaker 5: I just don't want to see that kind of power
Speaker 5: to these people to take away something that other people enjoy.
Speaker 3: It's the same thing, you know.
Speaker 5: I don't go out of my way to support people
Speaker 5: who don't support this country, but I also don't allow
Speaker 5: them to ruin something for me. And the super Bowl
Speaker 5: is not about the halftime show. And to your point,
Speaker 5: there's some counter programming that's way better to consume. That's
Speaker 5: for about fifteen to twenty minutes, and that's what people
Speaker 5: should do. But I'm not going to say I'm going
Speaker 5: to boycott an entire league or a championship game because
Speaker 5: of some people on the radical left demanding it. If
Speaker 5: we seed over football or baseball or any sports to
Speaker 5: the left, and we're going to run out of things
Speaker 5: to enjoy.
Speaker 2: Seattle Red check it out, Jason Rant, Thank you so much.
Speaker 3: Thanks guys.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, I think Trump's actually been kind of spot on
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Speaker 8: a film which I'm sure everyone has and broken it down,
Speaker 8: I don't know if it was a good shoot or not.
Speaker 8: They're smart people in my life who say it was.
Speaker 8: There's some smart people in my life who say it wasn't.
Speaker 8: And that's not really the point here. The point here
Speaker 8: is to clarify that the goal is to try to
Speaker 8: tone down the interplay that's taking place between the institutional,
Speaker 8: well funded, organized left agitators and activists. They're not protesters.
Speaker 8: There's no protests going on, and you don't show up
Speaker 8: at a law enforcement operation armed with multiple magazines if
Speaker 8: you're just protesting. You're doing this because you're trying to
Speaker 8: cause problems. And that's exactly what happened. And getting back
Speaker 8: on that messaging, but still understanding that we don't really
Speaker 8: know if this was a legal shooting or just shooting,
Speaker 8: and we got to let all that work out. And
Speaker 8: what we got to do is move on as fast
Speaker 8: as we can to things we want to talk about,
Speaker 8: which is depretations, which is wildly popular with Americans, and
Speaker 8: cracking down on illegal immigrant and immigrant fraud that's happening
Speaker 8: in this country. We just got to pivot back there
Speaker 8: as fast as humanly possible. I trust Donald Trump to
Speaker 8: do that, and I'll tell you trust Tom Homan is
Speaker 8: not just that Bavino's getting moved off and Nome's getting
Speaker 8: moved off. That's a very small part of it is
Speaker 8: Tom Homan is the man, he was put on earth
Speaker 8: for these exact moments and putting him in charge of
Speaker 8: exactly the right move.
Speaker 4: Completely agree. I believe that Tom Homan is the perfect
Speaker 4: man for the job. And Blake, you made this point earlier.
Speaker 4: Messaging discipline. There's nobody better.
Speaker 6: Than messaging discipline, good experience, and it's it's a fine
Speaker 6: thing to navigate because they are in that position where
Speaker 6: you do need to change what the narrative is around it.
Speaker 6: But you can't retreat, You can't concede, you can't say
Speaker 6: they won. You certainly can't make it look like they won.
Speaker 6: And I think it's actually paying dividends that we have
Speaker 6: multiple sort of famous immigration hawks within DHS, such as
Speaker 6: you can swap out personnel without making it look like
Speaker 6: a total tear down.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well this is interesting. I'm getting some breaking news here.
Speaker 4: Pima County, Arizona shooting incident occurred this morning near mile
Speaker 4: post fifteen on Ara Vaka Road. Border betray officers are
Speaker 4: on the scene. We saw some new activity out of
Speaker 4: Arizona yesterday. Actually you could throw this b roll up
Speaker 4: three thirty four. ICE has been on the scene here
Speaker 4: in Phoenix, Arizona, Arkopa County, and you're seeing the semblance
Speaker 4: that I think the beginning pieces of what we've seen
Speaker 4: in Minneapolis. Where they're organized. There's obviously some group chats.
Speaker 4: They're monitoring these unmarked vehicles, these DHS cars, and they're
Speaker 4: attacking them. They're going after them to harass and these
Speaker 4: young women apparently took up a selfie with some ICE
Speaker 4: officers apparently in support, and they instantly got harassed and
Speaker 4: chased by activists. This so this is my whole point
Speaker 4: with this, what we're seeing in Minneapolis. We cannot be
Speaker 4: perceived to be weak. Now, if Trump can strike a deal,
Speaker 4: I'm with you. I trust Trump's instincts here. I think
Speaker 4: the pivot can be fine. I think some of the
Speaker 4: messaging was mishandled. I agree if these you know, if
Speaker 4: they were omnipotent in this interaction with PREDDI, they probably
Speaker 4: would done what they did. They probably wouldn't have taken
Speaker 4: the shot. But you're completely right, it's beside the point.
Speaker 4: This gentleman should not have been impeding ICE officers and
Speaker 4: by the way. Again, we made the point earlier, this
Speaker 4: was not a protest, This was him trying to impede
Speaker 4: law enforcement. The protests happened after the shooting. Okay, so
Speaker 4: he was obviously up to no good. And apparently there's
Speaker 4: some other video that's coming out right now, Alex that
Speaker 4: shows that he had an interaction with ICE about a
Speaker 4: week before. He's claiming that he was tackled by ICE
Speaker 4: officers or whatever. I don't care. Get the heck out
Speaker 4: of the way. Let let law enforcement do their job.
Speaker 4: And by the for the love of God, the Trump
Speaker 4: administration cannot look weak on this. And I don't think
Speaker 4: that is gonna happen here, but they cannot look weak.
Speaker 8: Are you guys afraid of being shot right now? Are
Speaker 8: you afraid ICE is gonna shoot you?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 3: Why not?
Speaker 8: Because first of all, you're not illegal alien abating arrest,
Speaker 8: and you're not a white leftist, well funded protester who's
Speaker 8: not really a protests really an activist who's armed, who's
Speaker 8: showing up to agitate. The problem is is that when
Speaker 8: people like Tim Walls and people like Jacob Pry actually
Speaker 8: has acknowledged that there's Somali Froud going on, he's at
Speaker 8: least said, for whatever reason that yeah, there is some
Speaker 8: bad stuff happening here, to his credit, but you saw
Speaker 8: what happens on CNN. You see what happens with Tim Wilson.
Speaker 8: There is no basis for ice being here. Of course,
Speaker 8: there's a basis. We've all seen the videos. We all
Speaker 8: know what's happening with aliens in that part of the country.
Speaker 8: They're stealing taxpayer money. But here's the point here. The
Speaker 8: most important thing here is that for all of us
Speaker 8: to understand is that we cannot be perceived as weak,
Speaker 8: because our eye on the ball needs to be that
Speaker 8: we're going to make America more affordable, were going to
Speaker 8: make it safer, and they hate that, and that's really
Speaker 8: what they're protesting against it. It's not even a protest, but
Speaker 8: they're doing and they're trying to deliberately stop the enforcement
Speaker 8: of our laws because they know a laws of society
Speaker 8: is better for them politically. And we've got to be
Speaker 8: able to explain that to people in an efficient and
Speaker 8: effective way, and we've got to cut through the noise,
Speaker 8: which I think we can do, especially when they're running
Speaker 8: so far to the extreme where they're calling Steven Miller.
Speaker 8: The Rick Wilson from the Lincoln Project was saying, Steven
Speaker 8: Miller needs to be hung. He seriously needs to be.
Speaker 3: Hung in public.
Speaker 8: You had that crazy with the pink p word hat
Speaker 8: on on CNN yesterday who was talking about how they're
Speaker 8: gonna put people in ovens. That level of extremity. We
Speaker 8: need to use that to our advantage to point out
Speaker 8: that these people are truly radical and they have no
Speaker 8: sense of common sense.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I completely agree.
Speaker 4: And we've got you've got my favorite guy here, Jimmy Kimmel,
Speaker 4: giving them air support because that's what he always do.
Speaker 2: This is from about a week ago, but it plays
Speaker 2: three thirty nine. They're trying out a new slogan, Donald J.
Speaker 3: Trump is gonna kill you.
Speaker 2: He isn't just killing people overseas.
Speaker 1: An ICE agent today shot and killed an unarmed thirty
Speaker 1: seven year old woman during ICE operation in Minneapolis.
Speaker 2: Who were there there under the guys of protecting us.
Speaker 2: I want to see two Ice.
Speaker 4: And now you've got Stephen Colbert screaming from the top
Speaker 4: of his lungs. You guys have this up on Breitbart.
Speaker 4: Colbert screams f Ice. Kimmel is crying and John Stuart
Speaker 4: rants after gun about guns after latest federal agent involves shooting.
Speaker 4: So the air support's coming in. They think they're going
Speaker 4: to win the parts and minds here, and I just
Speaker 4: want everybody to be very clear that this is a tactic.
Speaker 4: They harass, they get martyrs, so they get some casualties,
Speaker 4: and then they play victim.
Speaker 8: The martyring part is really essential because I don't know
Speaker 8: what was in Alex Pretti's heart, but I know that
Speaker 8: if he was trying to commit suicide by ICE, he
Speaker 8: would have not behaved any differently. That's exactly how he behaved,
Speaker 8: is in a way that was designed so that he
Speaker 8: would get killed and then he would become a martyr.
Speaker 8: Now I don't know, I have no idea if that's
Speaker 8: what his intention was, but I know that that is
Speaker 8: a playbook now that can be followed. And now ICE
Speaker 8: is to be extra careful. And they have an important
Speaker 8: job to do. They're trying to enforce our immigrations and
Speaker 8: custom laws. That's all they're there to do. They're not
Speaker 8: there to do anything else. They'd probably don't even want
Speaker 8: to be there, they'd probably rather be at home, but
Speaker 8: they're there, deployed to try to enforce what's clearly immigration
Speaker 8: violations is taking place in the area, and so their
Speaker 8: life be made difficult when these media cycles play out
Speaker 8: the way they have, because what's happened now is this
Speaker 8: is penetrated in the broader culture. People who not following
Speaker 8: shows like this or content like ours, people who are
Speaker 8: just casual observers of the news, and they hear, wow,
Speaker 8: I shot a guy. They're cold blooded, and they don't
Speaker 8: hear the contexts. They don't hear any sort of corrections
Speaker 8: that take place, and that is something where we need
Speaker 8: to be very conscious. And I think President Trump is
Speaker 8: to be honest.
Speaker 4: With you, Yeah, I mean, Blake, I'd love your thoughts
Speaker 4: on this, because you know you have been advocating for
Speaker 4: less I guess boisterous, performative tweeting from details.
Speaker 2: What you want.
Speaker 6: Here is you What the base wants is they want
Speaker 6: proof that it's working. And for a lot of people
Speaker 6: like the boisterous stuff, the performati stuff. It's kind of
Speaker 6: a way of showing like, hey, we're serious about this,
Speaker 6: we have credibility on this. But I think the base
Speaker 6: but also just accept the clear, obvious signs that what
Speaker 6: you're doing is working. In fact, the freak outs of
Speaker 6: the left are often all the proof you need that
Speaker 6: this is happening.
Speaker 2: So you don't.
Speaker 6: Necessarily need a big car like a meme of someone
Speaker 6: like solving as they're like taken away in a helicopter
Speaker 6: or whatever. As long as the left is freaking out
Speaker 6: and it's very clear that this is this is all happening,
Speaker 6: that you're getting the job done, that's what the base
Speaker 6: will be satisfied with. It's just like with the border.
Speaker 6: You don't need infinity memes that the border is closed.
Speaker 6: The border is closed.
Speaker 2: Everyone knows it, and that's the victory. Yeah, it's interesting.
Speaker 4: I hate this article from the Wall Street Journal, but
Speaker 4: it says this is backfiring against Republicans. Waltz is happy
Speaker 4: and they call it the calm strategy. They own the
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Speaker 2: We are joined by Alex Marlowe.
Speaker 4: I'm just getting details on some breaking some breaking news
Speaker 4: here that Alex Preddy was shot, who has shot Minneapolis
Speaker 4: and died this past weekend. At an earlier incident, he
Speaker 4: stopped his car after observing ice agents chasing what he
Speaker 4: described as a family on foot, began shouting, shouting, blowing
Speaker 4: his whistle, and then he later told the same sources
Speaker 4: that five agents TechEd him and one leaned on his back,
Speaker 4: appearing to break his rib. This, according to sources, so
Speaker 4: a week before he was ultimately killed, he was out
Speaker 4: there cosplaying as a vigilante here so broke rib in
Speaker 4: confrontation with federal agents a week before death, sources say,
Speaker 4: So that's an interesting wrinkle. He was apparently known to
Speaker 4: law enforcement in Minneapolis, so fascinating detail.
Speaker 2: I don't know what to.
Speaker 4: Necessarily make of that, but obviously this was a person
Speaker 4: that was devoting his life and his time to confronting
Speaker 4: law enforcement, to stopping ice. The definition of an anti
Speaker 4: ice organizer. So there's that. I want to take our
Speaker 4: attention in a slightly different direction, Alex. This is Jennifer Welch,
Speaker 4: whoose now made a name for herself as being a
Speaker 4: basically the most vile person that you see on social media.
Speaker 4: She's attacking white Evangelical Christianity. In this clip, we'll play
Speaker 4: at Alex and get your take on the other side.
Speaker 2: Three thirty three.
Speaker 9: Evangelical Christianity is a cancer. These are the worst of
Speaker 9: our country. They use their religion in two ways, as
Speaker 9: a weapon and as a shield. They weaponize it whenever
Speaker 9: they want to and say we're on the moral high ground.
Speaker 9: You're a lesbian. You deserve to die. You're a lesbian.
Speaker 9: The cops shouldn't have revived you. Oh your parents are
Speaker 9: Mexicans and they brought you over here. Yeah, you should
Speaker 9: go to jel and eat worm food. And then when
Speaker 9: you call them out on it, Oh my god, they're
Speaker 9: after the Christians. How dare they?
Speaker 8: How dare they?
Speaker 9: We're so oppressed. White Christians are so oppressed in this country.
Speaker 9: And it should come as no surprise to anyone that
Speaker 9: of this cult that I'm talking about, white evangelicals over
Speaker 9: eighty percent went and voted triple trumped.
Speaker 6: This person is basically it's if you read about like
Speaker 6: the Rwanda genocide, there's a thing called Hutu radios. There's
Speaker 6: the hutuos and tooth season who Tooo radio is basically
Speaker 6: just this radio station that broadcast constant anti Tutsi propaganda
Speaker 6: that you know, called them cockroaches, things like that. And
Speaker 6: this woman just feels like that for well white Evangelical
Speaker 6: Christian America, like a lot of that is just insane lies.
Speaker 6: And she does it NonStop all the time, like she's
Speaker 6: kind of she's the final boss of awfuls as it were, very.
Speaker 2: Very dark woman.
Speaker 6: Uh and man, we're probably gonna be stuck with her
Speaker 6: a long time. But she's a lunatic, like a very
Speaker 6: a very hateful lunatic, and like you can just tell
Speaker 6: like this woman, this woman would be like having that
Speaker 6: incredibly sinister grain of hers as she funnels you into a.
Speaker 2: Gas chamber or whatever. She's good at the other rising language, Alex,
Speaker 2: your reaction.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I love the content. I mean, it is pure evil,
Speaker 8: it's just also false, and Christians tend to be way
Speaker 8: more charitable. They spend way more time volunteering. I tell
Speaker 8: you how all the horrible stuff said about Christians, and
Speaker 8: some of them I think do badly, but they at
Speaker 8: least mean well, and a lot of them, as a percentage,
Speaker 8: spend a lot more of their time doing productive things
Speaker 8: for our society. And I feel like as we've gotten
Speaker 8: more secular, we've certainly gotten less happy. We have more crime,
Speaker 8: we have less optimism. So I think we should would
Speaker 8: all benefit from a more Christian revival approach to society.
Speaker 8: That's my take. Obviously she disagrees, but I'm just very
Speaker 8: prohursaying this stuff publicly, because if people want to hold
Speaker 8: up this person who is so unappealing, is so unconvincing,
Speaker 8: is so angry and so petty as a champion of
Speaker 8: their values. This makes me very positive. This is the thing,
Speaker 8: is that when you look at their slate of spokespeople
Speaker 8: right now, the tampoon, Timmy Walls, I mean, these people
Speaker 8: are so unlikable, they're so uncharismatic, they're so full of
Speaker 8: bologney that I think that is just a remarkable opportunity
Speaker 8: for the rest of us, especially happy warriors in the
Speaker 8: Christian faith in particular, to stand up and say we're
Speaker 8: not going to tolerate any of this, and we're gonna
Speaker 8: beat it.
Speaker 4: You know what it struck me with that clip is
Speaker 4: she you could insert LGBTQ, you could insert black America,
Speaker 4: you could insert any of their preferred victim groups, their
Speaker 4: marginalized groups, their special interest groups, and that would be
Speaker 4: one hundred percent true of basically any leftist flavor of
Speaker 4: the week. And so it just strikes me as this
Speaker 4: massive projection. And to your point, Christians are the best
Speaker 4: of this country. Yeah we're not perfect, Yeah we make mistakes,
Speaker 4: but you try having an America without Christianity and it
Speaker 4: will fail. The country that she's enjoying, the country that
Speaker 4: she's blessed to be, and whether she acknowledges it or not,
Speaker 4: is a blessing because it is good. And why is
Speaker 4: it good is because it's Christian roots. This is something
Speaker 4: Charlie talked about so much, so much. That is what
Speaker 4: makes America great actually is how great is people are.
Speaker 8: To look at this at a literal point where she
Speaker 8: says that evangelical Christianity is a cancer and these are
Speaker 8: the worst people in the country. Well they're the worst
Speaker 8: because because they're threatening to her, because we tend to
Speaker 8: vote conservative. And that's the main thing to understand is
Speaker 8: that we people of faith believe that God is above
Speaker 8: all else, God family, and then maybe politics is third
Speaker 8: for us, maybe it's fourth behind career stuff like that.
Speaker 8: It's a but for the left right now, it's politics
Speaker 8: above all else. They believe that politics is they're guiding
Speaker 8: principle and the ends justify the means in order for
Speaker 8: them to achieve political victory. And just note that if
Speaker 8: there's a group of people who are God fearing, who
Speaker 8: pay their taxes, who are not criminals, who do a
Speaker 8: lot of volunteer work or give a lot to chearity.
Speaker 8: They do not care if you don't support their guy. Politically,
Speaker 8: if you support the opposite side, that Donald Trump's side,
Speaker 8: then you are inherently bad and wrong. And it's very
Speaker 8: important to understand that because there's not a lot of
Speaker 8: a place where we can agree. There's a huge amount
Speaker 8: of daylight between the two positions in this country, and
Speaker 8: that's relatively new where there's such a big gulf.
Speaker 2: I totally agree.
Speaker 4: We actually talked about this in our conversation Alex and
Speaker 4: this is the Charlie kirkshow So we're going to play
Speaker 4: a clip of Charlie talking about just this.
Speaker 2: Three forty five.
Speaker 1: John Adams seamlessly said the Constitution was only written for
Speaker 1: a moral, religious people. It was wholly inadequate for the
Speaker 1: people of any other. The body politic of America was
Speaker 1: so Christian and was so Protestant that our form and
Speaker 1: structure of government was built for the people that believed in.
Speaker 2: Christ, our Lord.
Speaker 1: One of the reasons we're living through a constitutional crisis
Speaker 1: is that we no longer have a Christian nation, but
Speaker 1: we have a Christian form of government, and they're incompatible.
Speaker 2: So you cannot have.
Speaker 1: Liberty if you do not have a Christian population.
Speaker 4: I'll never forget watching that live. I looked at the
Speaker 4: team as a longer clip that I'd love to play.
Speaker 4: We just don't have enough time. But I think you're right, Alex.
Speaker 4: This is a threat to her, her way of life,
Speaker 4: Christianity is a threat to her cult her.
Speaker 2: The Left really is a cult.
Speaker 4: It's an ideological cult, and she knows that we're a
Speaker 4: threat and we should become a bigger threat and organize
Speaker 4: even in greater measure. Alex, final thirty seconds to you.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm optimistic then with the message of Charlie, with
Speaker 8: what you guys are caring forward, what I'm trying to do,
Speaker 8: and so many others like us, that this will just
Speaker 8: fuel people to get focused. You play this clip to
Speaker 8: someone who's not a hardcore leftist and see, this woman
Speaker 8: is completely insane. I don't want anything to do with
Speaker 8: anything she's associated with. So that's why I'm gona keep
Speaker 8: paying clips like this myself.
Speaker 2: Amen.
Speaker 4: Alex Marlow, hosts of The Alex Marlow Show, Editor in
Speaker 4: chief of Breit Barton Breaking the Law is also out,
Speaker 4: So check out that book. Your breaking series is really important, Alex.
Speaker 4: Charlie's a big believer in it. Thank you for making
Speaker 4: the time. My friend will see you soon.
Speaker 8: You guys should stick with it. You guys are doing
Speaker 8: a great job. For more on many of these stories
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