1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:03,120 Speaker 1: Minnesota is in the spotlight, and it's not really for 2 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 1: a good reason. But I think there is a silver 3 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 1: lining here. And I tell you what I mean after 4 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 1: I introduce my next guest, doctor Scott Jensen. He is, 5 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: of course a physician, he's also a government a candidate 6 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: for governor. I should say, got a book, got called 7 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:18,240 Speaker 1: We've Been Played, Exposing to try out of Tyranny. Scott, 8 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: how are you going to see again? 9 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 2: Douc Joe. 10 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:22,440 Speaker 3: It's good to be on and I'm doing well, but 11 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:25,920 Speaker 3: obviously Minnesota is not. And the book I wrote three 12 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 3: years ago, We've Been Played, talks about the tryad of tyranny, 13 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 3: what happens when government colludes. And I think we're seeing 14 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:38,520 Speaker 3: this with Tim Walls in Minnesota and people are flabbergasts 15 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 3: that they're saying, how in the devil could this happen? 16 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:43,520 Speaker 3: And I think when you get a person like Tim 17 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 3: Walls in a position where he can absolutely run roughshod 18 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 3: over all three legislative branches, all three, if you will, 19 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 3: political branches, the executive office, the legislative branch, as well 20 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 3: as even his powerful impact. 21 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 2: On thejudicial branch. 22 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 3: I mean, he has friends in the judicial sector of government. 23 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 3: That have donated to his campaigns. So Tim Walls has 24 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 3: a lot of consolidated power and he uses that. And 25 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:14,119 Speaker 3: that's why I've said so clearly I think Tim Walls 26 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 3: is involved in a major cover up. 27 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: Well, I don't disagree with you, and a lot of 28 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 1: what's coming out right now is absolutely flabbergasting is a 29 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:25,320 Speaker 1: good word. But Doc, I do think there's a silver lining. 30 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 1: I'll explain that in a minute. Let's get down to 31 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 1: the nitty gritty. Why are there so many Somalians in Minneapolis, 32 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 1: Saint Paul, Minnesota when the weather is nowhere near what 33 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:36,040 Speaker 1: it's like in the eastern coast of Africa. Why were 34 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:38,400 Speaker 1: they brought there? Was this Obama? Was there some other 35 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:41,400 Speaker 1: reason that Minnesota is attractive. I don't think they decided 36 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 1: in Somalia, Let's go to Minneapolis, Saint Paul, Minnesota. Somebody 37 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:45,479 Speaker 1: brought them there. 38 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 3: Now, you're absolutely right, and the progression actually started in 39 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 3: the nineteen nineties, and it's really it's not as complicated 40 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 3: as people might think. Frankly, people came in Minnesota. We've 41 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 3: got several faith based organizations that have been quite aggressive 42 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 3: about trying to make certain refugees have a place to come, 43 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 3: and so Somalians came to Minnesota, and I think there 44 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 3: were a lot of programs available to help ease their assimilation. 45 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 3: On top of that, what happens is after the first 46 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 3: wave of immigrants come, frequently, the next wave wants to 47 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 3: go to an area where perhaps some people who know 48 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 3: them best, speak their language have already gone, and so 49 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 3: to speak, trail blazed some pathways. And so we started 50 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 3: to see Minnesota become a real, if you will, melting 51 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 3: pot for East African immigrants. And we saw it from Somalia, Somaliland, Ethiopia, 52 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 3: and it just grew and grew, so that I do 53 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 3: believe that Minnesota is probably the largest Somali community in 54 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 3: the nation. 55 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 1: Had well, it is by a lot. I mean, I 56 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 1: think it's like eightfold more than anybody else. So great answer, 57 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 1: But you and I both know that in Somalia it's 58 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 1: being run by a bunch of ten terrorists. It's not 59 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: a country like ours, It's not anything like Minnesota. Are 60 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 1: the people, generally speaking, because you probably have them in 61 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 1: your practice, are they trying to acclimate because it seems 62 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 1: as though a lot of them, from elon Omar on 63 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 1: down have no problem with fraud and scamming and lying 64 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:20,079 Speaker 1: and marrying your brother and you know, stealing billions of 65 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 1: dollars in aid. Are the general population of Somalians like 66 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 1: they were in Somalia or are they trying to become 67 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: Minnesotans because the ones that we're hearing about aren't doing 68 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: good things. 69 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 3: I think it's a mix, to be sure, But I 70 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 3: think that the people that are probably least inclined to 71 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 3: assimilate are the people that have found their way into 72 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 3: some sort of a power circle. The every day Somalian 73 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 3: who's trying to eke out a living, raise their children, 74 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 3: put a roof over their head, and food in their 75 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 3: tummies and take care of their kids. These people are 76 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 3: desperately working to assimilate. I've been having lunch with one 77 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 3: fellow for the last seven years, and he started out 78 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 3: with his own company doing a lawn service. Then from 79 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 3: the lawn service, he added landscaping. Then he hired a 80 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 3: few employees. The Allians definitely want to be independent business people, 81 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 3: and they want to follow the pathway of other immigrant groups, 82 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 3: other ethnic groups. I was blessed to have the opportunity 83 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:23,599 Speaker 3: to work with so many Southeastern Asian folks who came 84 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 3: over in the late seventies, in the eighties after the 85 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:32,159 Speaker 3: Vietnam War, people from Laos, Thailand, Vietnam, Cambodia, and these 86 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:36,040 Speaker 3: people benefited from our programs are if you will, our 87 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 3: support programs, and they got off of them as soon 88 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:42,599 Speaker 3: as they could. I think at some level, Joel, the 89 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 3: thing that we haven't talked about is in Minnesota, we 90 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 3: have a multitude a multitude of entitlement programs, support programs, 91 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 3: and we're not asking ourselves are they working? Are they 92 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 3: accomplishing their mission? If we have all these pro in 93 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 3: place and we're spending more money than almost any other state, 94 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 3: at some level we have to say are we helping 95 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:08,600 Speaker 3: these folks in their transition or are we hurting it. 96 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 3: There was a defense attorney who in the New York 97 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 3: Times article about ten days ago, he said, listen. 98 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 2: He said, some of these folks had the. 99 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 3: Best of intentions. They were going to try to follow 100 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 3: the law and do it normally, but it was just 101 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 3: so darned easy. 102 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:24,600 Speaker 2: He said. 103 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 3: It was like the cookie jar was full and they 104 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 3: could steal money from it and nobody asked questions. They 105 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:32,599 Speaker 3: just refilled the cookie jar. And I think that's where 106 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:36,799 Speaker 3: Tim Walls and frankly, every Minnesota has a right to say, 107 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 3: what's going wrong in Minnesota? How do we spend so 108 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:45,039 Speaker 3: much money and not expect these programs to perform? A 109 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 3: program starts out at two and a half million dollars 110 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:49,280 Speaker 3: two and a half million, and it goes to over 111 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 3: one hundred million and three years and nobody's watching the store. 112 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 3: Another program starts out at five million, and in three 113 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 3: or four years it's four hundred million. Nobody would stop 114 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 3: at the holiday gas station to buy a diet coke 115 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 3: that they expected to pay three dollars and when the 116 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 3: clerk says that would be four hundred dollars there, yeah, 117 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 3: they'd faint. They'd say, you can have your damn diet coke? 118 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:12,719 Speaker 3: And what the devil happened? That's what should have happened 119 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 3: in Minnesota. 120 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 1: I'm with you a little. Let me tell people who 121 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 1: you are again. It's doctor Scott Jensen. He's a family physician, 122 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:20,599 Speaker 1: Minnesota governor joh candidate. I hope that you become the governor. 123 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:23,280 Speaker 1: He's got a book out call We've been played, exposing 124 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 1: the tryaud of tyranny. I want to get into that 125 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 1: full throat at in a moment. Fraudster's sold over over 126 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:31,919 Speaker 1: a billion dollars from medicaid. We're hearing about two five 127 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: eight billion dollars missing from adult daycare, allegedly from feeding 128 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:38,840 Speaker 1: everybody that never got fed doc? How does this get 129 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 1: so out of control? And is there any way that 130 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:43,479 Speaker 1: Tim Walls could not have known this was happening. 131 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 3: I don't think there's any way that Tim Walls could 132 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 3: not have known. I do think a critical question is 133 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 3: what did he know when? When did he know it? 134 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 3: And when did he actively start to cover it up? 135 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 3: When did he start to tell hundreds of his employees 136 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 3: to shut up. He's not interested in having their whistle 137 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:04,159 Speaker 3: blow activities take place. He squashed them. How much data 138 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 3: has been deleted? Why has Tim Walls been unwilling to 139 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 3: release data when asked for it. It's pretty clear from 140 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 3: a timeline that in the early part of twenty twenty, 141 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 3: the Minnesota Department of Education realized there was a tremendous, 142 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 3: exorbitant increase and agencies that wanted to be involved in 143 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 3: collecting money to feed our kids. 144 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 2: That was when they first knew about it. 145 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 3: Now, did they do anything worthwhile or what a typical 146 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 3: business person would do in the first few months, No, 147 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 3: they didn't. They just dragged their feet. But it wasn't 148 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 3: until twenty twenty one that the FBI was brought in 149 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 3: in the spring, and then in twenty two. In twenty 150 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 3: twenty two, in September, when the FBI started to issues 151 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 3: and get some of its indictments, that was when you 152 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 3: saw Tim Walls all of a sudden try to grab 153 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 3: the stage and say, well, yep, here we are. We 154 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 3: know we investigated, we had a lot of the heavy lifting, 155 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 3: and we've turned it over to the FBI and to 156 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 3: the US attorney. That was absolutely a crock of crap. 157 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 3: They didn't do any of that. Tim Walls tried to 158 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 3: run a victory lab. And in twenty twenty two you 159 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 3: had Judge Gouthman say when Tim Wall said, well, you know, 160 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 3: we would have stopped the payment sooner, but the judge 161 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 3: told us we had to keep on making the payments. 162 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 3: The judge came out in an unprecedented action and said 163 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 3: Tim Walls is not telling the truth. So then Tim Walls, So, 164 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 3: then Tim Wall says, what you wish? The judge is 165 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 3: not going to stay quiet. I'm going to have to 166 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 3: find someone else. So then he blames the FBI, and 167 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 3: the FBI said, we never told you that you had 168 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:39,559 Speaker 3: to keep making fraudulent payments. Tim Walls has been willing 169 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:43,320 Speaker 3: to blame anybody, and this is his modus operandi. But 170 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 3: the bottom line is they did nothing. And I think 171 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 3: people have to ask the next question, why why would 172 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 3: the governor of Minnesota be so hell bent on letting 173 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 3: fraud just bubble up and continue? And I think the 174 00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 3: answer lies in what would it have taken If Tim 175 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 3: Walls had done the normal thing, had demanded accountability, it 176 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 3: would have put his voting blocks at risk. He did 177 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 3: not want to jeopardize the fact that he's got these 178 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 3: minority voting blocks that the Democrats have been able to 179 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 3: count on for years, and that was more important to 180 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 3: Tim Walls than truth and justice. And on top of that, 181 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 3: I think Tim Walls is a very ambitious governor. He 182 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 3: wants to go up the ladder as much as he can. 183 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 3: So voting blocks matter, virtue signaling matter, and quite frankly, 184 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 3: if Tim Walls thought he could get away with it. 185 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 2: Easy, pasy. 186 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 1: Doug, let let me ask you this, because this is 187 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:46,680 Speaker 1: all very well said. Now I'm following you, and I 188 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: trust that what you're saying is the case. First of all, 189 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 1: Tim Walls is not going to go anywhere. He was 190 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 1: such a fool as the vice presidential nominee. I think 191 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:55,719 Speaker 1: he's done. The fact that he's running for reelection in 192 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:58,319 Speaker 1: Minnesota really does give me pause because I fear he 193 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 1: might win. But you're talking about vote blocks, and I 194 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 1: take you at your word when you say most Simonians 195 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 1: want to be part of the American culture. They want 196 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 1: to be a melting pot, they want to acclimate. So 197 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:10,679 Speaker 1: this is just a small percentage of people that are 198 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 1: doing all this fraud. There is no voting block out 199 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 1: there that wants to vote yes on fraud. So how 200 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 1: is it that he would alienate them? Would he look 201 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:19,199 Speaker 1: like the hero or the star if he said I'm 202 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:21,079 Speaker 1: going to stop the fraud. I can't believe this happened. 203 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: This is Minnesota's money, this is American taxpayer's money. I'm 204 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: going to be your hero. Why wouldn't he do that? 205 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 1: Why would he be complicit or complacent? 206 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 3: It's a great question, and I think the point that 207 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 3: needs to be made is between even now, after ten, fifteen, 208 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 3: twenty twenty five years, fifty to seventy five percent of 209 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 3: the Somali community in Minnesota is on one program or 210 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 3: another in regards to free stuff, whether it's healthcare, SNAP. 211 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 3: So even though we've had this population with us for 212 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:58,839 Speaker 3: twenty to thirty years, you still have over half getting 213 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 3: free stuff. I was running in twenty twenty two. There 214 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 3: were rumors that I was never able to verify them. 215 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 3: But there were rumors that Democrats would go out and 216 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 3: frighten the Simali people, saying, if you don't vote for 217 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 3: Tim Walls, you might not be able to get this 218 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 3: apartment at a discounted rate, you might not be able 219 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 3: to get healthcare, you might not be able to get 220 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 3: food stamps or SNAP program. So I think that even 221 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 3: though there's a tremendous number ten twenty thousand Somalis that 222 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 3: want to be able to dream dreams and go out 223 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 3: and build businesses, there is absolutely somewhere between thirty and 224 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 3: sixty thousand Somalis on programs they do not want to 225 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 3: see go away. And Tim Walls hasn't connected the program 226 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 3: with the mission of the program, because that's pivotal. If 227 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 3: you're going to be spending taxpayer dollars, you've got to 228 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 3: make sure that when you pass a program, you know 229 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 3: what you wanted to do, and then you've got to 230 00:11:57,640 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 3: measure it to make sure that it's doing what you 231 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:00,680 Speaker 3: said it would do. 232 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 2: That's not happening. 233 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 1: Doctor Scott Jensen. He is, of course, family physician. He's 234 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 1: also running for governor of the Great State of Minnesota. 235 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 1: His book is called We've Been Played, Exposing the Triad 236 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 1: of Tyranny. Okay, so what you just said, it's not 237 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:15,320 Speaker 1: the first time I've heard that that people in the Somalia, 238 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 1: the Somalian community in Minneapolis, Saint Paul, have been strong 239 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 1: armed into voting one certain way or else you'll lose. This, This, this, 240 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:26,199 Speaker 1: and this. That's electioneering. It's illegal, that's paid to play. 241 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 1: None of that's okay. Now, again, you're not the first 242 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 1: person who's told me this has happened. The FBI is aware, 243 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 1: I'm guessing of these allegations. The FEC I would think 244 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 1: would be aware, the Federal Elections Commission, Why is anybody 245 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 1: doing anything about it? Again, this isn't just a rumor anymore. 246 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 1: We've got anecdotal people like you, but others who are 247 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 1: actually from that community going this really happened. James O'Keefe 248 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:49,439 Speaker 1: went in there and did an investigation about collecting ballots 249 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 1: and paying for ballots in that community in Minnesota. Doc, 250 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 1: why can't anybody stop this? It's illegal. 251 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 3: As soon as anybody brings it up there said to 252 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:04,119 Speaker 3: saying they're spreading this in for they're conspiracists, racists, they're racists, 253 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 3: they're insensitive. I mean literally in Minnesota, word policing is 254 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:12,559 Speaker 3: become an art form. 255 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 2: Wow. 256 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 3: And there's words virtually every week that are all of 257 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 3: a sudden taken off the list of what can be said. 258 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 3: I mean, I've almost wanted to have people send me 259 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 3: a list every month of Okay, what other words I'm 260 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 3: not supposed to use this month. This is where Minnesota's at. 261 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:31,439 Speaker 3: And the only thing that's really blown the lid off 262 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 3: of this, Joe is the national media. It hasn't been 263 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 3: local media. It's been the fact that national media has 264 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 3: been covering it. The White House has gotten involved. We've 265 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 3: got Scott Beiscent talking about it, We've got other people 266 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 3: talking about We've got the irs trying to follow some 267 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 3: of these trails of where do the dollars go? There's 268 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:53,839 Speaker 3: a lot of Minnesotans who would not believe that more 269 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 3: than fifty thousand dollars were donated from these fraudsters to 270 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 3: elect officials in Minnesota. Now that that's come out, we've 271 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:08,599 Speaker 3: got all these elected officials like Keith Ellison clamoring saying, oh, yeah. 272 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 2: We paid it back. 273 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 3: We weren't willing to take those dollars. Well, the fact 274 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:15,440 Speaker 3: of the matter was Keith Ellison had a group of 275 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 3: Somali people in his office. He let them know that 276 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 3: he was going to cover their back. It was after 277 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 3: that that he got thousands of dollars of donations. So 278 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 3: it has to beg the question, are there dollars out 279 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 3: there sequestered in bank accounts, whether offshore or not, that 280 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 3: people can still tap into that are composed of Minnesota 281 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 3: taxpayer dollars. Because if that's the case, then we have 282 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 3: the potential that this isn't just a cover up. Then 283 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 3: we have the potential that there's an ongoing, active, paid 284 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 3: a play scheme going on. And I think we have 285 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 3: an obligation to ask are there elected officials involved in this? 286 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 3: And people sometimes say, Doc, you're going down a rabbit 287 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 3: hole here. That's exactly what happened in nineteen seventy two 288 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 3: when Watergate building was broken into people said, well, this 289 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 3: will never amount to anything, whatever, whatever, whatever. Two years 290 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 3: later we had the president of the most powerful country 291 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 3: in the world resigning in order to avoid being impeached. 292 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. 293 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 1: Absolutely, Doctor Scott Jensen. Go follow doctor Scott Jensen dot com. 294 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 1: It's d R. Scott Jensen dot com. Get the book 295 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 1: called We've Been Played Exposing the Triad of Tyranny. Had 296 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 1: Liz Collin on last week and she gave me some 297 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 1: great insight into all this fraud that's happening in Minnesota. 298 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 1: And somebody actually called the show yesterday, Doc and said, 299 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 1: the local media actually covered this thing. Are you starting 300 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 1: to see the local legacy media going we can't really 301 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 1: ignore this stuff anymore. Right now, Minnesota's on the national 302 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 1: stage and we don't say something, we're going to be 303 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 1: looked at as who we've been for the past five 304 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 1: six years. Is the local media starting to catch on 305 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 1: to this or are they still giving cover to what 306 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 1: Wallas is doing, what Elison's doing. 307 00:15:57,320 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 3: There's no question the local media is stepping up. There's 308 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 3: one media source called the Minnesota Reformer, who is that. 309 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 2: If you will. 310 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 3: Organization has been identified as being pretty hard left at times, 311 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 3: but they've come out and they've asked, Okay, Tim Walls, 312 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 3: are you going to take responsibility? There have been some 313 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 3: very thoughtful articles that have come out of that agency, 314 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 3: asking hard questions, and I think what's happened is that 315 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 3: has caused other news organizations to say we better step 316 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 3: up to the table. So it may feel like it 317 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 3: was on a slow track, but it is encouraging I 318 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 3: think to a lot of Minnesotans that we're starting to 319 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 3: see the Minnesota media step up say hold it, this 320 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 3: is not okay. 321 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 2: Tim Walls. 322 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 3: Acknowledge where you went wrong, tell us what you're going 323 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 3: to do to fix it, and don't just try to 324 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 3: blow aviate and throw you know, bs status. 325 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 2: We want to know what are you really going to 326 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 2: do to solve it. 327 00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 3: Because right now, I think, right frankly, we've got politicians 328 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 3: on both sides of the aisle using this issue to 329 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 3: try to run victory laps for things that they didn't earn. 330 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 3: This fraud has been going on for more than just 331 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:12,439 Speaker 3: during COVID. This was prior to COVID. We saw this 332 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 3: when I was in the Senate. We saw it with 333 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:18,639 Speaker 3: the daycare program, we saw it with Tim Walls moving 334 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 3: people latterly to get him out of the limelight if 335 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 3: they weren't doing their job. There was one situation where 336 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 3: an Inspector General was literally ignoring the input coming to 337 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:32,399 Speaker 3: her and basically she was put on administrative leaves at 338 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 3: home for months and months and months, was paid tens 339 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 3: of thousands of dollars, and then quietly moved over into 340 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 3: another department where she made one hundred and thirty thousand dollars, 341 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:43,159 Speaker 3: but she was out of the limelight. There's piece of 342 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 3: evidence after evidence after evidence that shows there has been 343 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:49,120 Speaker 3: an effort, a very skilled effort, to cover this up, 344 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 3: to quiet it down, to shut down any potential whistleblowers. 345 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 3: And it's been going on literally since Tim Walls became 346 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 3: elected governor. 347 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 1: It's doctor Scott Jensen, of course, family position. Go get 348 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 1: his book called We've Been Played Exposing the Triad of Tyranny. 349 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 1: Let me finish up on the Somalian situation, and thanks 350 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:06,879 Speaker 1: for what you just said about the media. I think 351 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:09,440 Speaker 1: you're right on all counts. I know there are a 352 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:12,680 Speaker 1: lot of good Somalians here. My grandfather was an immigrant, 353 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 1: not from Somalia, from Italy, but when he came over, 354 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 1: he wanted to be an American. All of his eight 355 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 1: children only spoke English, didn't teach him how to speak Italian. 356 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 1: Are you finding as new generations come up in the 357 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:25,679 Speaker 1: Smalian community they want to be more American? And do 358 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:28,440 Speaker 1: you agree with me when I say if more good 359 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:30,879 Speaker 1: people from Somalia stepped up to a microphone and a 360 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 1: camera and said, we aren't represented by what Omar's doing, 361 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 1: by what these seventy eight indicted people did or allegedly 362 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 1: did in the scam. We're good people, we want to 363 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 1: be Americans, we want to be your neighbors. I almost 364 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:45,200 Speaker 1: feel like we need to have more of them step 365 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 1: up and say that. Do you agree? 366 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:48,120 Speaker 2: I do? 367 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 3: And that was why I went down last Monday, about 368 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:54,200 Speaker 3: nine days ago. They called me and said national news 369 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 3: people are coming out here. And this was before President 370 00:18:57,000 --> 00:19:01,160 Speaker 3: Trump had made some of his volatile com and so 371 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 3: they said, when you come down. So I went down 372 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 3: and it was fascinating. The first person I saw that 373 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:09,440 Speaker 3: morning running a Somali business was a woman who runs 374 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 3: a coffee shop and she said to me, she said, 375 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:15,439 Speaker 3: I don't like what Ilhan Omar says or what she 376 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 3: stands for. Next person I saw said, why don't the 377 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:23,640 Speaker 3: Republicans have a candidate to run against Senator Democrat Senator 378 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 3: Omar Fatae, who had just lost the election for mayor 379 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 3: in Minneapolis. We wanted to know where's the Republican party 380 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 3: to run a candidate against them. The next person I 381 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:35,679 Speaker 3: saw said, I don't want to be labeled because of 382 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 3: bad Somalis. And I know there are bad Somalis out there, 383 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 3: So they do want to They do want their voice 384 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 3: to be heard and magnified. And I think even programs 385 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 3: like this Joe, where we talk about this, it matters 386 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:51,200 Speaker 3: because we have seen immigrant group after immigrant group come 387 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:54,479 Speaker 3: to America and make their way. And I think one 388 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:57,719 Speaker 3: of the most successful immigrant stories in Minnesota in my 389 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 3: lifetime was to literally watch the people from Vietnam Laos, 390 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:05,640 Speaker 3: watch the among people, watch the Cambodians, the Ties come 391 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 3: to America, come to Minnesota and become an engine for 392 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 3: our economy. Did they need the programs that we had 393 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 3: set up for a couple of years, Absolutely, But today 394 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 3: under Tim Walls, our programs are without rudder, They're without accountability. 395 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:23,440 Speaker 3: They blow up from two million to one hundred million, 396 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 3: nobody says the word. They go from five million to 397 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 3: four hundred million, nobody says the word. A quarter of 398 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 3: a billion dollars ago and nobody says the word. And 399 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 3: then when employees Minnesota Department of Human Services try to 400 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:37,679 Speaker 3: say something, they're squashed. Tim Walls has absolutely allowed this 401 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 3: to happen on his watch. And this hurts Somali people. 402 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 3: This is not helping them, and they know it. We 403 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:47,719 Speaker 3: need to make people that come to our country recognize 404 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 3: that we're not interested in having them come in as 405 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:55,400 Speaker 3: a trojan whores and undermine the American spirit. We're interested 406 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 3: in having them come to our country help build America. 407 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 3: And I think we need and are entitled to expect 408 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:06,640 Speaker 3: people that come to our country to make some sacrifices, 409 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:11,679 Speaker 3: to assimilate, to learn our language, and to help build America, 410 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 3: build Minnesota, and love our country. 411 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:17,119 Speaker 1: I could not agree more. It's doctor Scott Jensen. Let 412 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 1: me ask you about this guy, Jacob Fry. I mean, 413 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 1: what a fool. This is a guy who I'm calling 414 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 1: him a fool, not you. He obviously went to the 415 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 1: Obama speech pattern school. He talks about Somalians, their fathers 416 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 1: and entrepreneurs and they make the Minneapolis engine run. We 417 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 1: are Somalions. They are Minneapolis. This guy taking the side 418 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 1: of one culture or one community over everybody else in Minneapolis. 419 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 1: Saint Paul doesn't make sense that he sits down at 420 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:49,879 Speaker 1: some Somali restaurant and funnily, I mean it was humorous. 421 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 1: His face, what he was eating the food was like 422 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 1: it was in pain. But here he is, this guy 423 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:57,479 Speaker 1: is completely selling out to just one segment of that 424 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:00,639 Speaker 1: of that community and just like leaving everybody else in 425 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:03,919 Speaker 1: the cold. And he's talking about possibly calling nine one 426 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:06,880 Speaker 1: one on ice agents when they come and not working 427 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 1: at all to help law enforcement from the federal government 428 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 1: enforce the law. What do you make of this guy? 429 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 1: Why is he the mayor? I guess the other choice 430 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:15,680 Speaker 1: was really horrible, But why isn't there a Republican or 431 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 1: a conservative or a moderate that's running to be the 432 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 1: mayor of that great city. 433 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 3: Well, Minneapolis has been a blue city for a long time, 434 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 3: and I think a lot of people are getting fed up. 435 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 3: But I think Jacob Fry represents what's happening to politics, 436 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:33,160 Speaker 3: not just in Minnesota, but I think across our land. 437 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:36,439 Speaker 3: People get elected and they start to have this notion 438 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 3: that this seat, this salary, this position of power, is mine, 439 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,199 Speaker 3: and I'm going to hold onto it regardless of what 440 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 3: i have to do. So we are seeing a gross 441 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:50,879 Speaker 3: level of pandering of licking your finger and holding it 442 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 3: up to see which way the wind's blowing. Today we're 443 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 3: seeing virtue signal, virtue signaling like never before. Jacob Frye 444 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:02,200 Speaker 3: has at times stepped into the fray and made some 445 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 3: solid decisions, but too often, too often, he is literally 446 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:11,120 Speaker 3: pandering to what's the flavor of the day. And when 447 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 3: he does that, he's not helping Somalia. He's not helping 448 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 3: the Somali folks, and he's not helping Minneapolis. He has 449 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 3: made very few bold steps that are going to help 450 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:26,200 Speaker 3: restore Minneapolis to be the city it was ten twenty 451 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 3: years ago. Make no mistake about it, Joe, Minneapolis is 452 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 3: in trouble. The streets are empty at night, some of 453 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 3: the busiest nightclub kind of places that previously enjoyed tremendous 454 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 3: energy and population and people. 455 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:42,920 Speaker 2: It's like a desert. 456 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 3: It's like a ghost town. Wow, Minneapolis restaurants shutting down. 457 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 3: We've had hundreds of restaurants shut down in Minneapolis over 458 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,959 Speaker 3: the last year. I'ctually over the last several years. So 459 00:23:56,840 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 3: clearly Jacob Fry is going to have to roll up asleep. 460 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,920 Speaker 3: He's asked himself what he's made of and start making 461 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,879 Speaker 3: the hard decisions that will help Minneapolis get on a 462 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,439 Speaker 3: pathway that brings it back, because right now it's not 463 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 3: happening and he's not helping the Somalis well. 464 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:13,159 Speaker 1: I mean, if I'm somebody who lost my business in 465 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 1: the Summer of Love the George Floyd riots, I wouldn't 466 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:18,159 Speaker 1: come back to Minneapolis. It's not attractive. I don't know 467 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 1: what would attract me to do that. In fact, I 468 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:21,639 Speaker 1: had somebody called the other day who said they were 469 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:24,199 Speaker 1: visiting Minneapolis and they were told by somebody in the 470 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 1: Somalian community, don't wear an American flag shirt to the 471 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:30,920 Speaker 1: Mall of America. Why because people don't like it there. 472 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:33,639 Speaker 1: What is that? That's a very strange thing. I would 473 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:36,919 Speaker 1: not think of that great American city in those terms, 474 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 1: but I guess you have to. So should you become 475 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:42,119 Speaker 1: the governor, do you work with the mayor of Minneapolis 476 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 1: and other mayors around the state and say, here's how 477 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 1: we can fix it. Here's how we can work as 478 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,679 Speaker 1: a coalition to bring this city back to greatness or 479 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 1: do you think he would be even open to that. 480 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 3: I think you would be open to it, because, frankly, 481 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,440 Speaker 3: as governor, I would demand it, and I would demand 482 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 3: a level of transparency that just hasn't had happened. I 483 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 3: would tell people, listen, we're going to have these conversations 484 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 3: in front of the media. We are going to collectively 485 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:09,199 Speaker 3: as a state start solving some of these problems. I 486 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 3: think this is why Tim Walls and perhaps others misgauged 487 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 3: how critical people have been of the new Minnesota flag. 488 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:22,639 Speaker 3: It was that it's smacked of political correctness. It's smacked 489 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:26,199 Speaker 3: of a few small people saying, in regards to the 490 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 3: Minnesota heritage as reflected on the state seal and the 491 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 3: state flag, they just wiped it out. A few people says, no, 492 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 3: we're going to change it. People celebrated our flag because 493 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:38,959 Speaker 3: it speaks of our past and our president and our future. 494 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 3: It talks challenges that we've had in the past, and 495 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 3: it speaks to our future. People are furious about what 496 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 3: happened to the former Minnesota flag, and it's not because 497 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:55,119 Speaker 3: they're racist or anything else. They respect our heritage. The 498 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 3: fact that as a state we've had challenges and we've 499 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:01,679 Speaker 3: plowed through them and all of us, all that heritage, 500 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 3: all that history, all that richness, was thrown out the 501 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 3: door because someone said this is politically insensitive. Well, you 502 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 3: know what part of our past is politically flawed, and 503 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 3: it is part of our past. It doesn't go away 504 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 3: just because we want to throw a piece of fabric 505 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 3: to the sidelines and have something bland and vanilla take 506 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 3: its place. 507 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 1: That doesn't make any sense. Doctor Scott Jensen, go to 508 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 1: dr Scott Jensen dot com go check out his candidacy 509 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 1: for Minnesota governor. In the time we have remaining four 510 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,639 Speaker 1: or five minutes, Doc, let's talk about who the triad is. 511 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:38,880 Speaker 1: We've been played exposing the tryaud of tyranny? Is the book? 512 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:40,680 Speaker 1: Show the book again? If you don't mind, let people 513 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 1: see the book. You got to go and grab this 514 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 1: right now. It's been not for a few years. It's 515 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:47,440 Speaker 1: by doctor Scott Jensen. Who is the triad of tyranny? 516 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 1: Can you explain who that is? To my audience? 517 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 3: It bubbled up much like a volcano in the early 518 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 3: twenty twenty and we saw it for the next three 519 00:26:55,920 --> 00:27:00,639 Speaker 3: or four years where we saw big government allude with 520 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 3: big pharmacy, and they worked with big Tech to get. 521 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 2: Their message across. 522 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:09,160 Speaker 3: We saw a synchronization of messaging like never before, an 523 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:14,359 Speaker 3: absolute brainwashing of the American people. You know, this time 524 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:18,439 Speaker 3: we said, if there was one false overarching message that 525 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:21,399 Speaker 3: should never have been put out there, it was do 526 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 3: it for. 527 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:23,360 Speaker 2: Gramma, don't kill Gramma. 528 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 3: We saw this take place because big tech, big pharma, 529 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 3: and big government said it would. We saw big pharma 530 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,640 Speaker 3: make inroads into profitability they never would have been able 531 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 3: to make without big government coming alongside of them. Those 532 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 3: three players crushed individual liberties the American people have been 533 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 3: guaranteed in the Constitution. We've been played. People were told 534 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 3: things that now are coming out there were absolutely not true. 535 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:54,120 Speaker 3: We had businesses locked down, we had kids locked out 536 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 3: of schools. We had elderly frail people locked in the 537 00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 3: nursing home facilities, knowing virtually that they die lonely deaths. 538 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 3: We've been played and the only way that we can 539 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:07,959 Speaker 3: prevent it from happening again, Joe, is by never forgetting. 540 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,439 Speaker 3: And that's why I wrote the book is We've been played, 541 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 3: and there was a triad of tyranny that did it. 542 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 3: It's been fascinating to me to watch President Trump dismantle 543 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 3: some of this with the FDA, with Bobby Kennedy, Marty McCarey, 544 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 3: Jay Bodichari at the NIH. It's been fascinating to watch 545 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 3: the big tech companies step in line and acknowledge that 546 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 3: what they did was wrong, what they did was unethical attempts. 547 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 3: When they shut people down like Eric Alex Berenson, they're 548 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 3: coming out saying, yeah, we shouldn't have done that. So 549 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 3: I think we're seeing dismantling of this triad and we 550 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 3: need to remember how it came to be. 551 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 1: I couldn't agree more. And I love all the people 552 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 1: that you mentioned. Doctor Ross is involved in that as well. 553 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 1: As we're watching it unfold. Though, you see the massive 554 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 1: pushback by big Pharma, by big control, you know, apparatus. 555 00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 1: They don't like it. I mean, they've been attacking Bobby 556 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 1: Kennedy from day one. You shouldn't be in that job. 557 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 1: They're trying to get rid of him, just like they're 558 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 1: trying to get rid of Pete Hegseth. But when it 559 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 1: comes to the health and Human services side of it, 560 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 1: when it comes to the FDA, when it comes to 561 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 1: the NIH, when it comes to the CDC, when it 562 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 1: comes to HHS. What happens when President Trump, you know, 563 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 1: ends his term and God forbid, somebody who's more left 564 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:21,480 Speaker 1: gets in there. Did they re establish that control again? Doc? 565 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 1: Is there a way to make these changes permanent and 566 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 1: keep on fighting back the trillions of dollars that's being 567 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 1: invested by big Farmer to keep control. Can this be 568 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 1: long lasting? 569 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 2: I think it can. 570 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 3: And I think the lesson we learned was actually from 571 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 3: the colonists more than two hundred years ago. If you 572 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 3: look at the uprising that became the American nation, historians 573 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 3: have indicated that the number of colonists that wanted to 574 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 3: rebel against England was probably less than twenty percent. But 575 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 3: through the fights, the battles, and the transparency, literally America 576 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 3: became a nation where at one point in time, one 577 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 3: hundred percent of its citizens would hold strong to the 578 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 3: flag and to what we represent. I think the lesson 579 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 3: is transparency, the fact that we have people like doctor 580 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 3: Oz and like I said, Marty McCarey, Bobby Kennedy, Jay Bodicharia, 581 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 3: and many others, even Robert Redfield, the former CDC director, 582 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 3: coming out and saying listen, we should be withdrawing all 583 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 3: the mRNA vaccines. This transparency, you will not be able 584 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 3: to put the genie back in the bottle when we 585 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 3: hear a vaccinologist like doctor Paul Offitt come out acknowledge 586 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 3: and confess that he didn't get the boosters for the 587 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 3: COVID dection. And this is the guy who was saying it. 588 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 3: When we see this happen, they might try to stuff 589 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 3: the genie back in the bottle again in three four 590 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 3: eight years. I don't think it's going to happen, But 591 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 3: I think jd. Vance is going to be the next 592 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 3: president after Trump anyway, and I think that's going to 593 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 3: give us a chance to continue the open dialogue and 594 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 3: continue to enhance transparency, because it's in transparency and in 595 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 3: every citizen and taking seriously their obligation to be an 596 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 3: engaged American citizen. 597 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:07,719 Speaker 2: No sitting in the cheap seats. 598 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 3: Every one of us has to walk into the arena 599 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 3: and say I'm going to do my part. Joe John 600 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,479 Speaker 3: Kennedy said it many years ago. Ask not what your 601 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 3: country can do for you, but what can you do 602 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 3: for your country? 603 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:20,680 Speaker 2: The time is now. The time is now. 604 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 1: I agree with you. Last question doc, and I appreciate 605 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 1: how you spell that. Last question has to be this. 606 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 1: People are frustrated because Fauci is still getting four hundred 607 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 1: thousand dollars a year in his pension and just walks 608 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 1: free when this guy lied to us directly into the 609 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 1: camera and lied about everything when it came to how 610 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,800 Speaker 1: we were supposed to act to the pandemic. Will anybody 611 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 1: pay the price? Because I think Americans want somebody to 612 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,880 Speaker 1: pay the price for wronging us for that entire period. 613 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 2: I wish I knew the answer, Joe. 614 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 3: I think that Pauci and what he got away with 615 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 3: and some of his colleagues that made millions and millions 616 00:31:56,920 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 3: of dollars. The amount of profit that Viser made on 617 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 3: the vaccines was enormous. And I remember the pviisor CEO 618 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 3: telling people that they needed to get vaccinated, not for themselves, 619 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 3: but to do it for the next person, to do 620 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 3: it for grandma. And now we find out they didn't 621 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 3: even have any evidence, no evidence that it would prevent transmission. 622 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 3: There was never any real evidence that would say that 623 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 3: you should divert from what we've always said regarding vaccines. 624 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 3: We tell people to take vaccines to protect themselves. We 625 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 3: don't try to guilt them into taking vaccines and say 626 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 3: if you don't, you're killing someone else. What was put 627 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 3: upon the American people will go down in history as 628 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 3: one of the darkest biased messages and propaganda that America 629 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 3: ever experienced. This is literally worse than what happened in 630 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 3: the Cold War, and. 631 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 1: That's probably true. What we're finding out now is just 632 00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 1: earth shattering and mind numbing. It is Doctor Scott Jensen 633 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 1: to Dr Scott Jensen dot com. Support him there and 634 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 1: make sure if you're in Minnesota, you gotta consider this guy. 635 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 1: I want him to be your next governor. He's running 636 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 1: for governor of Minnesota. Get the book, also called We've 637 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 1: Been Played Exposing the try out of Tyranny. Doc, thanks 638 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 1: for jumping in the chair on short notice. I really 639 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 1: appreciate all the time. 640 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 2: He gave us. 641 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:16,000 Speaker 1: So let's do it again soon. 642 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:18,480 Speaker 2: Thanks Joe, thank you so much. 643 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 1: All Right, that's it for Unshaking and Unafraid with Joe 644 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,760 Speaker 1: Paggs this time. Another one to drop very soon.