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Speaker 2: This is the Chris to gall show. Dah no, Gi,

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Speaker 2: you're right in there. Gee, Love's got it, He's got it.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what the hell's going on here. Good morning, folks.

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Speaker 2: Welcome in new format to my email. Obnoxious as hell.

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Speaker 2: Here's what I want to know. Why do things feel

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Speaker 2: they've got to update? What is it I have maintained?

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Speaker 2: If you, if you don't mind, if I could just

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Speaker 2: get something off my chest this morning, right off the top.

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Speaker 2: Why is it systems that work perfectly well feel they've

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Speaker 2: got to update? What is that? Exactly? Here's here's my contention.

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Speaker 2: In the digital era, digital companies have tons and tons

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Speaker 2: take things that work perfectly well, be it an app,

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Speaker 2: know what, this would look so much better if we

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Speaker 2: rearranged it all just so we can justify our existences

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Speaker 2: and collect the check. And then you and I, the

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Speaker 2: end user who were using the thing and everything was

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Speaker 2: But some guy somewhere in some far flung cubicle feels

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Speaker 2: Your phone works fine? Right? It works perfectly fine? And

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Speaker 2: Easy to find me if you'd like to get in

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Speaker 2: here today. All right, Tom, Holman yesterday announces seven hundred

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Speaker 2: to this number seventy one to kick off the day,

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Speaker 2: because I know a lot of people are irked about this,

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Speaker 2: So here we go.

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Speaker 9: We currently have an unprecedented number of counties communicating with

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Speaker 9: US now allowing ice to take custody of illigo amins

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Speaker 9: before they hit the streets. Unprecedented cooperation. Now say it again,

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Speaker 9: this is efficient. Requires only one or two officers to

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Speaker 9: assume custody of a criminal alien target, rather than eight

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Speaker 9: the street doing criminal operations. This is smart law enforcement,

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Speaker 9: not less law enforcement. It is safer for the community,

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Speaker 9: This coordination also makes it far more safe for the

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Speaker 2: at full capacity. Holman says that he's got cooperation. Holman

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Speaker 2: continue to detain these people and if they're wanted by

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Speaker 2: That's where we find ourselves on the American left today.

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Speaker 2: every day. They say this is a retreat. I don't

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Speaker 2: their word? I don't know. You know, President Trump gave

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Speaker 2: President Trump is trying to extend an olive branch and

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Speaker 2: Look public sentiment, whether you like it or whether you don't,

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Speaker 2: The Washington Examiner has a story coming out, as I

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Speaker 2: citizen checkpoints. And I'm not making this up that this

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Speaker 2: wear body cameras. I don't object to agents wearing body cameras.

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Speaker 2: That's fine with me. Law enforcement being transparent doesn't bother

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Speaker 2: sharing it on their online communities. We just had a

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Speaker 2: over the country doxing ice agents. So this is a

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Speaker 2: It's amazing that they're willing to do it. And there

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Speaker 2: And what's Minneapolis going to do? As the Washington Post

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Speaker 2: it not the American left that's constantly talking about living

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Speaker 2: So I want you to consider being a citizen in

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Speaker 2: are you asking me for my identification? Nay? Once again,

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Speaker 2: Again, this is according to the Washington Examiner. There's apparently

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Speaker 2: a report coming out that they're fanning out all over

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Speaker 2: they will stop any federal law enforcement that's trying to

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Speaker 2: get into respective neighborhoods. Now, that's not legal, first of all,

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's not even a discussion before we go

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Speaker 2: any further. You cannot impede people's movement. You cannot demand citizens,

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Speaker 2: never mind federal agents, show their identification to you, a

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Speaker 2: And that is the real story. And President Trump, for

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Speaker 2: Give me number seventy five street tough Scott past them

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Speaker 12: Any idea how much we're spending on ice every single.

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Speaker 13: Day against the represented This is the Financial Stability Oversight Commission.

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Speaker 13: President Trump has secured the border.

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Speaker 2: He was elected.

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Speaker 12: Well, then let him stay.

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Speaker 2: Well, stop being his flunky?

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Speaker 5: Gentlemen took up my time.

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Speaker 3: Mister, I think you should recognize that, mister chair.

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Speaker 13: The general woman's time has expired, the gentle woman's.

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Speaker 2: That's ultimately what they're reduced to the Democrats. Will you

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Speaker 2: shut up? She says. Look, the fact of the matter is, uh,

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Speaker 2: manufacturing has tipped back into expansion in this country. Inflation

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Speaker 2: is holding. As I said, there are no tariff driven spikes.

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Speaker 2: We're going to get in the tariffs and more detail

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Speaker 2: coming up for our buddy Shanker Singham. Tariff revenue is

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Speaker 2: flowing into the treasury. As a matter of fact, at

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Speaker 2: historic levels, and those terriffs, by the way, are doing

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Speaker 2: exactly what President Trump always said they would, bringing in

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Speaker 2: bill Some estimates put it at trillions, but you can

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Speaker 2: conservatively say billions. It's also forcing fairer trade terms, and

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Speaker 2: it's given the United States genuine financial leverage. There have

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Speaker 2: been enormous diplomatic breakthroughs this year, achieved all through what

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Speaker 2: tariff pressure. The idea that India said yesterday, okay, okay,

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Speaker 2: or two days ago, we're going to stop buying Russian oil.

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Speaker 2: Remember the Putin stooge. Donald Trump has been pressuring India

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Speaker 2: to stop doing business with Russia, and India finally buckled

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Speaker 2: and said, okay, we'll stop. And President Trump said, okay,

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Speaker 2: then I'll lower our tariffs. Not military threats, nobody died,

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Speaker 2: no shots fired. Tariff pressure. That's huge. The diplomatic breakthroughs

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Speaker 2: strictly through tariffs. Fraud watch dogs are clawing back hundreds

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Speaker 2: of billions of dollars. Thank you, Doze. Crime is falling

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Speaker 2: precipitously in cities where deportation laws are enforced. Rents are easing.

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Speaker 2: I had that story yesterday. Mortgage rates are softening. Had

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Speaker 2: that story yesterday as the Wall street. Home hoarding is

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Speaker 2: getting choked off, and President Trump is calling that out too.

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Speaker 2: Even things like the Artemis Moon Mission is advancing. Our

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Speaker 2: allies are finally paying more for their own defense needs too.

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Speaker 2: And if you put it all together, whether it's rising production,

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Speaker 2: lower prices, job growth, safer streets, leaner government, a stronger

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Speaker 2: global position, the picture of what's going on here and

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Speaker 2: what we're living right now is unmistakable. It's a golden era.

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Speaker 2: It's real, it's Trump led, and it's not hype. It's happening.

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Speaker 2: And it's exactly why chaos is suddenly erupting in blue

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Speaker 2: states like Minnesota. Because nothing, nothing, folks, threatens a corrupt

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Speaker 2: system more than competence, especially competence that produces visible results.

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Speaker 2: Federal investigators in covering massive fraud nonprofit networks in Minnesota

475
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Speaker 2: are being exposed. Every time agents get closed, something remarkable

476
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Speaker 2: keeps happening. Crowds appear out of nowhere, blocking filming, disrupting operators.

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Speaker 2: It's not spontaneous protests. It's coordinated rapid response teams organized

478
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Speaker 2: through encrypted signal chats. We talked about it. It's the

479
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Speaker 2: same digital playbook during George Floyd, same tactics same speed.

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Speaker 2: They're not resisting injustice, they're running interference for fraud, paid disruptors.

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Speaker 2: And what we're watching is rising prosperity. It's portrayed instead

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Speaker 2: as some sort of existential threat to democracy itself. Journalists

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Speaker 2: are not doing their jobs here. It's crisis theater. I

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Speaker 2: have much more on this hang on. President Trump was

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Speaker 2: asked if one day he will be spoken of amongst

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Speaker 2: the great presidents, and what he said I thought was

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Speaker 2: a perfect answer as a matter of fact, and it's

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Speaker 2: what I believe in his heart he believes, which is

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Speaker 2: why he has weathered a home invasion and two assassination attempts.

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Speaker 2: I think he means every word of what he says

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Speaker 2: here in this answer number eighty.

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Speaker 5: You think at one point people will talk about you

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Speaker 5: when they talk about presidents like Washington and Lincoln?

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Speaker 6: Is that something you think about?

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Speaker 11: Is such an honor?

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Speaker 1: But I walking down and everyone's screaming, God, I said,

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Speaker 1: what are they talking about? I hope they're right, not

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Speaker 1: for me, but for the country, because if I do

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Speaker 1: a great job, that means the country is doing well.

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Speaker 2: Missus Trump with Israeli hostages held by Hamas meeting at

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Speaker 2: the White House yesterday. Listen to this number eighty three,

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Speaker 2: one of the former hostages.

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Speaker 14: I just want to say that I waited for the

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Speaker 14: last Hosshaite to come home to text you, because when

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Speaker 14: we met before we came home, you gave me so

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Speaker 14: much hope and I could fill your heart with me,

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Speaker 14: and I knew how important it was for you to

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Speaker 14: go back home and talk to President Trump and share

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Speaker 14: your feelings.

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Speaker 2: So I want to thank you for the and I

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Speaker 2: want to.

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Speaker 15: Thank you for putting me in your special Malania phone

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Speaker 15: because I was there talking to you, not for myself,

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Speaker 15: but for the whole world. Bringing the hostages home was

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Speaker 15: the most important thing that I could think about in

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Speaker 15: this world. And now it's all over the world. The

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Speaker 15: bad things that come mustered to my husband.

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Speaker 6: But I'm lucky.

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Speaker 15: And thank you Keith for staying alive and being with me.

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Speaker 15: And thank you Milania for helping. I really appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: That's a viva seagell, a former hostage and a family

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Speaker 2: there talking with Missus Trump. These are people who love people,

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Speaker 2: is my point. President Trump says. The American people hopefully

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Speaker 2: will be left in a far greater state if I

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Speaker 2: do my job. Well, if I'm considered a great president,

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Speaker 2: it's because the American people have benefited from it. Trump.

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Speaker 2: President Trump picked up the phone and called Savannah Guthrie

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Speaker 2: yesterday after NBC's interview with him, just to see how

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Speaker 2: he could personally get involved. Look, the truth is, the

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Speaker 2: Trumps do care about people. The truth the Left cannot

531
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Speaker 2: afford to admit is very very simple. Chaos is erupting

532
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Speaker 2: in places like Minneapolis because just the opposite of President

533
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Speaker 2: Trump failing, he's succeeding bigly. Chaos is erupting because President

534
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Speaker 2: Trump and his successes expose everything they've been hiding. Bad

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Speaker 2: news is the Left's natural habitat. Crisis is their oxygen.

536
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Speaker 2: Panic is their business model. Competence, on the other hand,

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Speaker 2: it's like garlic like cross to a vampire. Competence, prosperity, accountability,

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Speaker 2: it's the solvent that dissolves the left's entire existence and

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Speaker 2: their entire storyline. A strong America when this country, when

540
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Speaker 2: America strengthens, the people who profit from the dysfunction, well,

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Speaker 2: they start to feel the ground shift beneath them. The

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Speaker 2: Washington Posters laid off hundreds of people yesterday. Stability strips

543
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Speaker 2: away their slogans. Prosperity unmasks their grift and accountability threatens

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Speaker 2: their networks. That's all they've got left because President Trump

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Speaker 2: is succeeding. Ornamentent. I don't know about you. If you

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Speaker 2: a minute ago. Good morning, folks, welcome into our two

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Speaker 2: of the Stigall Show. The fact of the matter is

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Speaker 2: President Trump and his tariff policy is winning aggressively. So

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Speaker 2: as a matter of fact, Shanker Singham is the CEO

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Speaker 2: of a company called Conpreteraire, and he is the former

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Speaker 2: Trade secretary for the UK and former advisor to our

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Speaker 2: trade representative here in the United States. He's a brilliant guy.

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Speaker 2: So I want to rehash this because because this is central.

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Speaker 2: This tariff policy of President Trump's is central to the

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Speaker 2: economic and frankly geopolitical success of the country. What's the

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Speaker 2: likelihood the Supreme Court is going to stay with it

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Speaker 2: and allow President Trump to continue with it. We're going

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Speaker 2: to talk with him about it. And also activism. DEI

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Speaker 6: You tell me that all of them.

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Speaker 2: Is Chris to go.

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Speaker 6: You have a great show, highly rated show too. By

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Speaker 6: the way, this is the christ.

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Speaker 2: Hey, welcome back. Glad to have you along today. You

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Speaker 2: know that tariffs, I believe, in my opinion, the subject

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Speaker 2: of tariffs donald Trump's Article two powers. I believe any

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Speaker 2: president's Article two powers include tariffs, and I think too

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Speaker 2: great effect. President Trump has used tariffs, he agrees. Over

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Speaker 2: the weekend, in the Wall Street Journal, he wrote an

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Speaker 2: open editorial. My tariffs have brought America back, and he

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Speaker 2: lays out the case. What he doesn't say is one

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Speaker 2: of the things that I think is the most important

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Speaker 2: and significant is that his tariffs have done a great

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Speaker 2: deal to impede the work of the bad actors globally

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Speaker 2: that mean us harm and are certainly no friend to

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Speaker 2: us in this hemisphere. You've seen Venezuela, you've seen Cuba,

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Speaker 2: you've seen China. You've seen bad actors back off and

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Speaker 2: change their behaviors Iran simply because of tariffs, no bullets,

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Speaker 2: no troops on the ground. I think that's really significant

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Speaker 2: here to discuss this one of the smartest guys we know,

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Speaker 2: and whenever he makes time for we love to have

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Speaker 2: him on. Shanker Singham. He's the former advisor to the

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Speaker 2: British Trade Secretary, former advisor to the United States Trade

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Speaker 2: representative as well. He knows markets like the back of

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Speaker 2: his hand, and we've talked to tariffs before. As the

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Speaker 2: Supreme Court is weighing were to come down on the

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Speaker 2: mister Singham, welcome back, sir.

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Speaker 16: Thank you very much, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 2: Your sense of it again. The last time we talked

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Speaker 2: about tariffs, I know you shared much of the view

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Speaker 2: that they weren't necessarily in that negative, and I also

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Speaker 2: understand why people are hostile toward them conservatives here domestically.

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Speaker 2: But I don't think anyone can argue President Trump has

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Speaker 2: used these to great effect, again without any kind of

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Speaker 2: military action, which I think is not a small matter.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, I mean, I think you know, when he introduced

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Speaker 16: them in the first place on the Liberation Day, what

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Speaker 16: he said was that lots of countries have been have

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Speaker 16: damaged the US economy through various not only their own tariffs,

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Speaker 16: but more importantly, the way they are, the way they

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Speaker 16: use regulation against US companies, the way they distort their

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Speaker 16: markets to like China, for example, massively lowering the cost

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Speaker 16: of its its companies that are able to overproduce and

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Speaker 16: therefore flood the US market and lower prices and put

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Speaker 16: people out of jobs, and so forth. So this has

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Speaker 16: been happening for twenty or thirty years at this point,

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Speaker 16: and we have not been able to deal with it.

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Speaker 16: Here has sort of decided that we're going to follow

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Speaker 16: a different path. And the path that he's followed is

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Speaker 16: actually causing some of those countries to change some of

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Speaker 16: those policies and a lot of particularly regulatory policies that

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Speaker 16: have been sort of you know, enshrined in stone and

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Speaker 16: you're not allowed to talk about them. They are talking

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Speaker 16: about them now. So certainly some big issues, like the

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Speaker 16: policies that that other countries apply to digital companies, particularly

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Speaker 16: the US plant form companies, are all sort of Magnificent

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Speaker 16: seven companies as it were. You know, many countries sort

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Speaker 16: of treat these companies like ATM machines. I mean that

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Speaker 16: they're basically finding them and operating digital policies and competition

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Speaker 16: policies that are completely irrational and are clearly designed to

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Speaker 16: damage only US companies.

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Speaker 2: So a lot of those policies are now you know,

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Speaker 2: are now in play.

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Speaker 16: I mean that they're certainly we can we can hopefully

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Speaker 16: we'll have some good results and some changes from from

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Speaker 16: from those countries. I was testifying to Congress in December

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Speaker 16: about a career in particular. But these are these are

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Speaker 16: across across the board.

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Speaker 2: I know Howard Lutnik said last week that he said

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Speaker 2: in the cabinet meeting the Commerce Secretary, we're now creating

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Speaker 2: steel at a faster clip in the United States than

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Speaker 2: in Japan, which is a new development and something we've

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Speaker 2: not seen in a while. Do you do you see

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Speaker 2: evidence even do you think we will see evidence in

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Speaker 2: the coming years of industry aren't shoring in the United

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Speaker 2: States because of the tariff policy? Is that working? President

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Speaker 2: Trump continues to tout, I think trillions of dollars coming

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Speaker 2: into the country.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, I mean, I would say, I mean part of

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Speaker 16: the problem with the barriers that other countries have and

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Speaker 16: the distortions that other countries have maintained against the US

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Speaker 16: over the last sort of thirty years is that it

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Speaker 16: changes the economic calculus of companies about where to actually

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Speaker 16: locate production. So a lot of companies have located production

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Speaker 16: in places like China and other places in Asia and

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Speaker 16: so forth because of the distortions, not just because you

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Speaker 16: know of low labor costs and all the usual things

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Speaker 16: that happen when you're making a decision about where you're

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Speaker 16: going to produce, but specifically because of these barriers and distortions.

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Speaker 16: So I think eliminating those distortions means that a certain

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Speaker 16: amount of production will come back to the come back

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Speaker 16: to the US, or a certain amount of production when

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Speaker 16: a business is deciding where it's going to locate a factory,

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Speaker 16: you know, may locate a factory in the US as

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Speaker 16: opposed to offshoring it somewhere to take advantage of those

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Speaker 16: of those distortions and so on. So while I wouldn't

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Speaker 16: say that, you know, the deficit is always an everywhere

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Speaker 16: a bad thing, because I don't think that is the case,

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Speaker 16: what I would say is that if the deficit is

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Speaker 16: caused by distortions in other countries leading to overproduction limiting

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Speaker 16: the ability of US companies to reach those markets, then

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Speaker 16: it's the distortions that we need to we need to attack.

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Speaker 16: And there's no doubt that US exports into other countries

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Speaker 16: are damaged by these barriers and distortions, and there's no

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Speaker 16: doubt that imports into the US are artificially increased as

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Speaker 16: a result of those as a result of those distortions

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Speaker 16: in those in those countries. So if you eliminate the distortions,

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Speaker 16: clearly you are going to get more advanced manufacturing and

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Speaker 16: the things locating in the US, and more importantly, you're

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Speaker 16: going to be producing at an economic level that makes

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Speaker 16: sense as opposed to overproduction, which is what we particularly

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Speaker 16: saw in steel. One of the reasons that Japan and

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Speaker 16: China and so forth produce so much steel is because

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Speaker 16: of all the barriers and distortions in their markets and

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Speaker 16: the lack of competition, and US steel companies have not

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Speaker 16: been able to compete with that. So once you eliminate

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Speaker 16: those barriers, the likelihood is that US steel companies and

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Speaker 16: other companies in other sectors will become much more competitive.

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Speaker 2: And also, I just think the COVID era, in my view,

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Speaker 2: I don't know if Corporate America looks at it this way,

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Speaker 2: or people that are headquartered here but make things elsewhere.

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Speaker 2: Is there any thought to the supply chain and the

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Speaker 2: precarious place we found ourselves in the COVID era. I mean,

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Speaker 2: we were sitting ducks in so many ways, particularly when

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Speaker 2: it came to things like pharmaceutic and other things that

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Speaker 2: we needed. I think we learned for the first time, Gosh,

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Speaker 2: if there's a problem in the supply chain, we're up

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Speaker 2: a creek. How important from a domestic security point of

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Speaker 2: view is it that we start making things here at

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Speaker 2: harm Yeah?

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Speaker 16: I mean I think what we learned in COVID was

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Speaker 16: that we did not know, as you said, we did

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Speaker 16: not know where, you know, even at the level of

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Speaker 16: the second or third tier of the supply chain, so

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Speaker 16: the person who's supplying the input into the product that

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Speaker 16: is then used by the US company or the Western company.

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Speaker 16: For example, we didn't really know where the third and

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Speaker 16: fourth suppliers actually were. We didn't even know who they were,

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Speaker 16: and that meant that our supply chains were were, you know,

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Speaker 16: not resilient at all. It also meant that we didn't

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Speaker 16: really know where particular products were being overproduced in certain

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Speaker 16: places because of these distortions and so forth. I think

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Speaker 16: we need to be much more resilient in how our

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Speaker 16: supply chains operate. And now there is a lot of

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Speaker 16: technology actually that enables us. Using things like digital trade

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Speaker 16: corridors and product passports and so forth, we can know

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Speaker 16: exactly where things originated. And I think it's going to

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Speaker 16: be very important to make sure that we aren't exposed

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Speaker 16: in those supply chains two bad actors, and we will

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Speaker 16: have to be able to.

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Speaker 7: Know.

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Speaker 16: Some people use the term friendshoring. I mean I think

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Speaker 16: moving more of the supply chain, particularly for sensitive and

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Speaker 16: products that relate to national security, to move those into

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Speaker 16: friendly countries and to know that all of the inputs

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Speaker 16: and so forth are coming from friendly countries.

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Speaker 2: This is a big question. I've got about a minute ago,

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Speaker 2: so I'm sure I asked something so big with such

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Speaker 2: a short amount of time. But the digital landscape, be

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Speaker 2: it digital currency or AI, obviously it's going to play

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Speaker 2: an outsized role in our future. What what can we

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Speaker 2: or should we do about it? Is it important that

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Speaker 2: we have our hands on it or just kind of

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Speaker 2: allow the marketplace, we back out of it and just

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Speaker 2: just let it, let it grip well.

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Speaker 16: With respect to things like AI, I think there are

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Speaker 16: tremendous opportunities that come from AI to reduce costs and

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Speaker 16: to make people more productive and so forth. But I

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Speaker 16: don't think we should be afraid of it. At the

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Speaker 16: same time, I always help tell younger people that you know,

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Speaker 16: you're not going to lose your job to AI. You're

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Speaker 16: going to lose your job to someone who knows how

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Speaker 16: to use AI. So it's really important that we train

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Speaker 16: our kids and our workforce on how to actually use

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Speaker 16: it and generally using it to speed speed up the

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Speaker 16: processes is the better way of using it. With regard

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Speaker 16: to you know, some of the other issues that you

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Speaker 16: mentioned as digital current and so forth, I mean there

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Speaker 16: is a major distortion. I mean, this is a big

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Speaker 16: topic to open up now, but there is a major

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Speaker 16: distortion in the fiscal sector that we can't get away from.

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Speaker 16: We have we have unlinked money is a measurement of

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Speaker 16: wealth creation from its actual value, and that is a problem,

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Speaker 16: and that fiat money has created a significant distortion, and

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Speaker 16: it may well be the digital currencies and you know,

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Speaker 16: other other measures like this will introduce more competition into

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Speaker 16: the into the financial system, which will be no bad thing.

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Speaker 2: Well, we're going to have you back to talk in

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Speaker 2: more detail about that throughout the year and as time

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Speaker 2: goes on. We value your insights so much. Shanker Singham,

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Speaker 2: thank you very much for your time today. Please come

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Speaker 2: back and see us soon.

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Speaker 16: Absolutely, I'd love.

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Speaker 2: To eight sixty four six four four nineteen hundred Myphdweight

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Speaker 2: loss dot com. A couple of very good pieces of news.

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Speaker 2: Yesterday I told you that the plastic surgeons, the American

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Speaker 2: Society of Plastic Surgeons, said they will no longer do

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Speaker 2: gender butchery on children. Amen and amen. And I had

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Speaker 2: read that there were some others that were thinking about

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Speaker 2: signing on with this, but I couldn't confirm it. Today

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Speaker 2: I can confirm it this from the New York Times

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Speaker 2: the American Medical Association. That's a biggie followed a similar

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Speaker 2: recommendation from the American Society of Plastic Surgeons. For the

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Speaker 2: first time, two major medical groups have backed limits on

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Speaker 2: this gender butcher this Frankenstein's monster garbage, this pit of

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Speaker 2: hell lie that you can have your gender altered surgically.

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Speaker 2: So the American Medical Association, the nation's largest organization representing doctors,

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Speaker 2: yesterday said these procedures should generally be deferred until patients

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Speaker 2: reach adulthood. Hallelujah. We won't let somebody drink bourbon until

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Speaker 2: they're twenty one. But we were perfectly comfortable with cutting

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Speaker 2: off their genitals as miners, and they could make that

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Speaker 2: decision on their own. It was always insane, by the way.

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Speaker 2: It's always a lie, whether you're a minor or an adult.

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Speaker 2: But whatever, you're an adult, you do you but miners.

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Speaker 2: Thank God, and I mean that literally on bended knee.

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Speaker 2: Thank you to Almighty God for reigning here and correcting

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Speaker 2: this barbarism that was unbelievably formally sanctioned by the American

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Speaker 2: Medical Association. That's done now, so hopefully our children will

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Speaker 2: be be safe from that madness, at least from the

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Speaker 2: physical madness. Now the psychological and mental madness of it,

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Speaker 2: that's still very much going on and needs to be

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Speaker 2: dealt with. But whatever. And then the USA today folks

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Speaker 2: have a editorial about Trump's school choice program even winning

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Speaker 2: over Democrats. One of the ways that Trump administration is

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Speaker 2: opening up options for families is through a new federal

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Speaker 2: school choice tax credit. We talked about it with Ted

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Speaker 2: Cruz and the one big beautiful bill. Basically, you being

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Speaker 2: able states are now they have to opt in to

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Speaker 2: take advantage of the money people donate to educational savings

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Speaker 2: accounts for kids to get scholarships to private schools, and

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Speaker 2: they get a tax offset. Brilliant way to fund real

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Speaker 2: school choice in the country. And even Democrats are forced

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Speaker 2: to sign on winning loving understanding to a gentleman that

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Speaker 2: I regret I did not get a chance to introduce

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Speaker 2: myself to last week. I think if memory serves, and

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Speaker 2: I saw who I thought I saw, and I think

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Speaker 2: I did. Neil McCabe part of Real America's voice. He's

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Speaker 2: the national political reporter. I think I saw him at

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Speaker 2: that Treasury launch of Trump accounts last week, and I've

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Speaker 2: never met him in person, but I recognized his photo

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Speaker 2: and when I found out he was going to make

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Speaker 2: time for us today, I thought, oh, I wish I

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Speaker 2: had introduced myself last week. I think I saw you there, Neil,

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Speaker 2: good morning, Welcome in.

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Speaker 4: It's like that's like a radiots where I'm sitting here

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Speaker 4: guarding Where did you seeing me? Oh goodness, I hope

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Speaker 4: you weren't going to say butterworths the.

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Speaker 2: Is that true? Did I see you last week? I

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Speaker 2: thought I did. No, no, no.

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Speaker 7: I was at the Trump event. It was amazing.

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Speaker 4: It was bafo. It was extremely well done. I thought

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Speaker 4: just the logistics.

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Speaker 7: Of the event.

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Speaker 4: A lot of times these events, you know, there's problems

870
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Speaker 4: with security, or there's lines.

871
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Speaker 7: I mean, there was food, there was beverage.

872
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Speaker 4: There was plenty of opportunity for media people to talk

873
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Speaker 4: to the different celebrities and business people and philanthropists. I

874
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Speaker 4: thought it was a phenomenal event for a phenomenal program.

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Speaker 4: And next time we bumped into each other, let's actually

876
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Speaker 4: say hello.

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Speaker 2: That's a promise. I agree with you completely. People asked

878
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Speaker 2: me about that event last week, and I said it

879
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 2: was you know, the Trump administration is buttoned up on

880
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 2: many fronts, but in terms of individual cabinet secretaries or

881
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Speaker 2: individual events, they vary because you're talking about thousands of

882
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Speaker 2: people in a government. I mean it's you know, they're

883
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Speaker 2: not all going to be perfect. But this Scott Besson's

884
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Speaker 2: Treasury people are about as buttoned up a department I was.

885
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Speaker 2: I've been gushing about it too. I've never seen such

886
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Speaker 2: a well run events. It's clearly vessant and his people

887
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:48,359
Speaker 2: are just aces across the board. I am such a fan.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and it speaks to you know, it's sort of

889
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Speaker 7: like I have a line.

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Speaker 4: You know, microcosm becomes allegory and and when you go

891
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 4: to an event that's completely jacked up, you're like, oh

892
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Speaker 4: my goodness, these people are running the treasury.

893
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Speaker 7: Oh my god. When you leave the.

894
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Speaker 4: Event saying, oh all right, these guys, these the guys

895
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Speaker 4: running the Treasury, I think we're all right.

896
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Speaker 2: Yeah. No, it was tremendous. Anyway, I not why you're here,

897
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Speaker 2: but I appreciate the time today, Neil, you're actually I

898
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Speaker 2: love the work you do.

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Speaker 7: What's going on?

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Speaker 2: No, I know you can follow Neil on X by

901
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Speaker 2: the way, Neil W. McCabe. McCabe Neil w. McCabe on

902
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Speaker 2: X he's over there at Real America's Voice is the

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Speaker 2: national political reporter. Can I ask you quickly and I

904
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Speaker 2: do want to specifically get into why you're here, which

905
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Speaker 2: is Fulton County and what's going on there and now

906
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Speaker 2: Fulton County is pushing back to get some records. Can

907
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Speaker 2: I assess you generally as somebody who's been watching this

908
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Speaker 2: administration now for the last year. President Trump just had

909
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 2: an interview yesterday with Tom Lalamasa from NBC News and

910
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 2: he and jd Vance just talked to The Daily Mail.

911
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 2: Rather hostile event for jd Vance and he handled it well.

912
00:53:56,239 --> 00:54:00,959
Speaker 2: These It's it's continue to be true that the Trump

913
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Speaker 2: administration is not afraid to take hostile interviews, I mean

914
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Speaker 2: in mass or individually. And I'm intrigued by that because

915
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Speaker 2: they really don't have to, given Salem News Channel, Real

916
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Speaker 2: America's Voice, they don't have to, but they still do it.

917
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Speaker 2: How do you read that?

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Speaker 7: Well?

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Speaker 4: I think jd Vance can certainly handle himself and and

920
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:25,359
Speaker 4: and it's almost it's almost unfair when you see him

921
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Speaker 4: just slash and burn with Dana Bash or Margaret Brennan,

922
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 4: and you know, he just he just embarrasses them, right,

923
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Speaker 4: and they don't know what to do, and they it's

924
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Speaker 4: great when you see Margaret's all of it. Margaret Brennan

925
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Speaker 4: rather just sort of freeze up.

926
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Speaker 7: We're like, oh, he's done it to me again.

927
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Speaker 4: But Trump has always hit to all fields, and there's

928
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Speaker 4: there's a confidence. And when I was younger, I remember,

929
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Speaker 4: especially in the early Reagan years, there was a confidence

930
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Speaker 4: to conservatism that we've got this, we've figured it out,

931
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Speaker 4: and that intellectually the left was on its back foot.

932
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Speaker 4: And I think Trump and Dvance are sort of exuding that.

933
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Speaker 4: I mean, there's something about coming back the way he did,

934
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Speaker 4: overcoming all of these challenges, and he's like, I'm just

935
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Speaker 4: going to lay it out and I'm going to trust.

936
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Speaker 4: I'm going to trust that my message will reach people,

937
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Speaker 4: and I'm not going to hide in this sort of

938
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Speaker 4: echo chamber.

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Speaker 7: You know. You remember the last two years of George W.

940
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Speaker 4: Bush's administration, We're basically spent in the bunker.

941
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Speaker 7: You know.

942
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Speaker 4: And he he got collaborated in the midterms. Part of

943
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:40,000
Speaker 4: that in twenty oh six is because he was he

944
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:44,359
Speaker 4: was turtling, right, He didn't want to engage people want

945
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Speaker 4: to support the president especially in the same party, you know,

946
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Speaker 4: just people want to support Trump, they want to hear

947
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Speaker 4: from it. What do we say to our friends, like

948
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Speaker 4: they want to see that he's out there fighting and

949
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Speaker 4: they recognize it.

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Speaker 2: That is such a stude point. There's no hiding, there's withdrawal.

951
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:03,319
Speaker 2: And yet the media, as we know, they always do this.

952
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:06,520
Speaker 2: They are sowing chaos and making it sound like the

953
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Speaker 2: country's turned. But every time you see a poll, as

954
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Speaker 2: you as you know, Neil, the American people are with deportations.

955
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Speaker 2: The American people are with border security, they're with cracking

956
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:19,399
Speaker 2: down on illegal aliens and law enforcement. The polling does

957
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:22,600
Speaker 2: not suggest what we so often consume in mass, not

958
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:25,840
Speaker 2: on Salem or real America's voice, but in mass the

959
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:28,399
Speaker 2: propaganda is heavy and I think it wears people out,

960
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:30,640
Speaker 2: but it's not real. It's actually not where the country is.

961
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Speaker 7: Still people don't People don't tell pollsters the truth.

962
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Speaker 4: They always might like if you ask a thousand people,

963
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:40,280
Speaker 4: a thousand smokers, right, should you quit smoking?

964
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Speaker 7: They all say yes, and then they say right. So

965
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Speaker 7: it's like, you know, people, polls.

966
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Speaker 4: Are notoriously bad at recording Trump's support, and people will

967
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Speaker 4: give the fancy answer, especially now today, where instead of

968
00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:01,880
Speaker 4: just some landline and some you know, nameless person calling

969
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:05,799
Speaker 4: you twenty years ago, it's everything's timestamped, whether you do

970
00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 4: it on your cell phone or you do it online.

971
00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 4: They say of your name, your address, the date, the time,

972
00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:14,520
Speaker 4: the tape. And it's like people are like, hey, I'm

973
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:17,440
Speaker 4: being recorded right now giving you my opinions on Trump

974
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Speaker 4: and immigration. Of course I'm going to say the fancy

975
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Speaker 4: thing out of fear.

976
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:25,760
Speaker 2: Neil McCabe with as real America's voice, he's the national

977
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Speaker 2: political reporter. Talk to me about what's going on in

978
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:31,920
Speaker 2: Fulton County. The county's now gone to court demanding the

979
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:35,360
Speaker 2: return of ballots. Where is this going? I mean, I

980
00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:37,240
Speaker 2: know they're trying to make a bunch about Trump trying

981
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:40,120
Speaker 2: to nationalize elections, and again, as usual, I think he's

982
00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:42,120
Speaker 2: kind of taken out of context there. But the fraud

983
00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 2: is real. I think most of us know it. I

984
00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:45,720
Speaker 2: think Fulton County knows it, and I think they're scared.

985
00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 2: Where's this going?

986
00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:52,440
Speaker 4: It's like, please, I can't tell you how twenty twenty

987
00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:53,560
Speaker 4: was rigged and stolen.

988
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:57,080
Speaker 7: I just know it was bogus.

989
00:57:56,080 --> 00:58:00,240
Speaker 4: And like, I'm not an expert on algorithms and chain

990
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:02,600
Speaker 4: of custody. I just know that was not That was

991
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 4: a bogus election. Everyone knows it was bogus. And the example, right,

992
00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:12,920
Speaker 4: Kate exhibit A is can I see the Fulton County ballots?

993
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:13,680
Speaker 7: Please know?

994
00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:16,800
Speaker 4: And we'll spend millions of dollars and we'll go to

995
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:19,480
Speaker 4: every court in the state and we will block.

996
00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:20,240
Speaker 7: You at every turn.

997
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:22,320
Speaker 4: And if you ask to see the ballots, we'll call

998
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:25,960
Speaker 4: you a fascist and an insurrectionist. It's like, just let

999
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:28,480
Speaker 4: me see the ballots. I just want to know if

1000
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:32,040
Speaker 4: they're folded or not. Chris, I have one question, and

1001
00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:35,400
Speaker 4: I'm being told that I'm a monster Hall what a

1002
00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:39,000
Speaker 4: horrible man. He's asking me if the ballots were folded.

1003
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:42,680
Speaker 4: If the ballots are folded, I'll take my medicine and

1004
00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:45,560
Speaker 4: I'll walk away. If they're not folded. I need to

1005
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:50,760
Speaker 4: know why Tulsey Gabbert realized. I think I think that

1006
00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:54,080
Speaker 4: she realized that the FBI has two masters.

1007
00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:56,160
Speaker 7: Sure, it works for the.

1008
00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:59,240
Speaker 4: Justice Department, it's part of the Justice Department. For most

1009
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:02,160
Speaker 4: of its life, the FBI actually worked in the main

1010
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:07,160
Speaker 4: Justice building. And so it's like the FBI doj right

1011
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:10,680
Speaker 4: hand and glove. Kelsey gabbartt says, hold on, I'm the

1012
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:15,240
Speaker 4: director of National Intelligence. The FBI calls itself an intelligency.

1013
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:17,960
Speaker 4: I guess they work for me too. And so no

1014
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:21,640
Speaker 4: one at the Justice Apartment could figure out or wanted

1015
00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:24,320
Speaker 4: to figure out, how to get the Fulton County ballots.

1016
00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:27,560
Speaker 4: Kelsey Gabbert picks up the phone and says, send.

1017
00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:30,680
Speaker 7: In the FBI. I want those ballots quaint and simple.

1018
00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:35,200
Speaker 2: And by the way, the woman representing Fulton County in

1019
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:38,280
Speaker 2: open testimony very recently, as you know, said that three

1020
00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:42,880
Speaker 2: hundred thousand of them were improperly counted. Now she didn't

1021
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:45,000
Speaker 2: necessarily say whether they went to Trump or Biden, but

1022
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:48,120
Speaker 2: said three hundred thousand of them were improperly counted. If

1023
00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:52,600
Speaker 2: Joe Biden quote wins Georgia by eight thousand votes, if

1024
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:55,720
Speaker 2: the county admits three hundred thousand of them were miscounted,

1025
00:59:57,000 --> 00:59:59,280
Speaker 2: that's justification enough to look under the hood, it seems

1026
00:59:59,280 --> 00:59:59,440
Speaker 2: to me.

1027
00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:02,720
Speaker 4: Neil Oh, it's you know, and of course there's the

1028
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:05,160
Speaker 4: water main break that never happened. I mean, it's just

1029
01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:09,120
Speaker 4: when I when they told me the water brain broke,

1030
01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:12,120
Speaker 4: I was saying, with two other guys I was the

1031
01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:15,520
Speaker 4: coms director for Project Ferratas at the time, and we

1032
01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:18,200
Speaker 4: were in the offices of Project Ferratos watching it. I

1033
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:22,760
Speaker 4: had uh and so you know it's we were watching

1034
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:25,280
Speaker 4: and uh and then they said the water mean and

1035
01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:27,280
Speaker 4: I looked to my boys and I said, that's it.

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01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:30,920
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm voting.

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01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:33,480
Speaker 2: I don't know if you have time. Could I hold

1038
01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:36,440
Speaker 2: you over for one more segment? Do you have a second? Sure,

1039
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:39,120
Speaker 2: I appreciate you. Thank you. We haven't visited before. And

1040
01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:41,840
Speaker 2: there's some things to chat about. So Neil McKay from

1041
01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:45,439
Speaker 2: Real America's Voice, he's their national political reporter. I want

1042
01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:49,240
Speaker 2: to pick his brain on the esteemed journalists and his

1043
01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:52,480
Speaker 2: colleague dun Lemon and where he thinks that's headed. The

1044
01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:54,880
Speaker 2: Washington Post laid off hundreds of people too, and the

1045
01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:56,960
Speaker 2: Savannah Guthrie stuff coming up.

1046
01:00:56,960 --> 01:01:21,720
Speaker 17: Hang on, watch the Christa gaul Show on the Salem

1047
01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:25,240
Speaker 17: News Channel now on Google TV, Amazon Fire TV, and

1048
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:26,000
Speaker 17: Apple TV.

1049
01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:28,120
Speaker 2: From the Relief Factor Studios.

1050
01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:30,600
Speaker 6: Here's Chris.

1051
01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:36,040
Speaker 2: Live look at Minneapolis this morning. Thanks for listening on

1052
01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:39,960
Speaker 2: the Patriot AM twelve eighty and watching on the Salem

1053
01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:44,520
Speaker 2: News Channel. As I say, these large metropolitan cities that

1054
01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:46,280
Speaker 2: we get to look at from high above that are

1055
01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:49,240
Speaker 2: governed by Democrats. They're always pretty from high above. Different

1056
01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:51,440
Speaker 2: matter when you're driving around. I said earlier that I

1057
01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:53,880
Speaker 2: was listening to the one of the reporters in the

1058
01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:56,400
Speaker 2: Washington Examiner say she's working on a story, and I'll

1059
01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:58,080
Speaker 2: be interested to read it. If true, I have no

1060
01:01:58,120 --> 01:02:02,560
Speaker 2: reason to doubt it. Said that Minneapolis is prepared to

1061
01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:05,680
Speaker 2: be a different street. You know, the underground network of

1062
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:09,080
Speaker 2: activists who are trying to thwart law enforcement activity there.

1063
01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:12,440
Speaker 2: They're actually fanning out around the city and blocking passage

1064
01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:15,200
Speaker 2: of people, demanding ID to make sure they're not Ice

1065
01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:18,440
Speaker 2: agents before you can pass through. Neil McCabe is back

1066
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Speaker 2: with US Real America's Voice, national political reporter. Neil, I

1067
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:24,360
Speaker 2: don't know about you, and here's just my working theory

1068
01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:28,240
Speaker 2: on it. I don't know that it's that bigger theory

1069
01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:32,640
Speaker 2: or that risky to lob out there. That Minneapolis is

1070
01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:36,000
Speaker 2: just so corrupt, the fraud is so rampant. It just

1071
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:38,720
Speaker 2: seems to have coalesced with all this chaos, And I

1072
01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:41,880
Speaker 2: just keep coming back to that they just desperately, desperately

1073
01:02:41,880 --> 01:02:45,560
Speaker 2: want a distraction, and they're very, very gifted at creating

1074
01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:47,760
Speaker 2: distraction in places like Minneapolis. What's you read?

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Speaker 7: Well, I think that what we're seeing is not so much.

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Speaker 4: You know, obviously they love corruption, and obviously they don't

1077
01:02:57,640 --> 01:03:00,840
Speaker 4: want pay Americans to shovel their drive ways or brush

1078
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Speaker 4: down their horses. Right, So they're absolutely addicted to their

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Speaker 4: illegal wage slaves.

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Speaker 7: Right. But I think what you're really seeing is.

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Speaker 4: Class warfare and or tribal warfare, where it's like these people,

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Speaker 4: these these well to do, middle class, upper middle class

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Speaker 4: upper you know, these these sort of leftists, right, these

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Speaker 4: fancy people they've deigned they've been running this country since

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Speaker 4: the end of World War Two, and they set.

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Speaker 7: Up this system.

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Speaker 4: They set up a system internationally, and they set up

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Speaker 4: a system in this country. They set up the partnership

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Speaker 4: between the big corporations and the government. And everything was

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Speaker 4: spinning like a top and humming like a sewing machine.

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Speaker 4: And all of a sudden, all these Trump voters start

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Speaker 4: saying this is not working for me. And they're like, oh,

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Speaker 4: you're noisy and complaining blue collar people. We're just going

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Speaker 4: to replace you with illegal ways slaves who are going

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Speaker 4: to towel off our car at the car wash and

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Speaker 4: they're going to wash the dishes at our restaurants and

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Speaker 4: we don't have to deal with you. And we and

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Speaker 4: we created all these laws, you know, regulating workers in

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Speaker 4: this country, minimum wage and taxes and safety and health.

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Speaker 4: And what we're going to do is we're going to

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Speaker 4: have a completely deregulated labor for us that doesn't even

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Speaker 4: have to deal with the government. We pay him what

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Speaker 4: we want, and we treat them the way we want,

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Speaker 4: and we live like kings.

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Speaker 7: And the thought.

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Speaker 4: Of that lifestyle and the thought of that control being threatened,

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Speaker 4: that's why they're being such maniacs.

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Speaker 2: And then you see people like Don Lemon, who calls

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Speaker 2: himself a journalist. Now you are a journalist of many

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Speaker 2: many years.

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Speaker 7: When you see him your day to be a journalist.

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Speaker 2: What do you see the outcome of a Don Lemon thing?

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Speaker 2: You know, he's very proud of himself. The celebrity culture

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Speaker 2: of course, just cheering him. I actually think that that

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Speaker 2: is a colossal mistake for the left. I think they

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Speaker 2: way overplayed their hand on that. I think the American

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Speaker 2: public will reject that roundly, which is why I think

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Speaker 2: I think we're seeing them already back away from it.

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Speaker 4: You well, First of all, I worked as a reporter

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Speaker 4: for Boston's Catholic paper for many years, and you know,

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Speaker 4: you spend a lot as a church Catholic reporter, right,

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Speaker 4: You spend a lot of time in church. And I

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Speaker 4: don't know if it did me any good, but I

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Speaker 4: do know that you don't you don't conduct an interview

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Speaker 4: with the priest in the middle of Mass. And so

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Speaker 4: the idea that Don Lemon was there as a journalist

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Speaker 4: when he's actually speak to having a conversation and interrupting

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Speaker 4: the pastor in the middle of a sacred service, and

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Speaker 4: it's like he was obviously a participant when you you know,

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Speaker 4: you have protections. The courts have given journalists tremendous protections

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Speaker 4: as they have expanded the First Amendment. But you lose

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Speaker 4: those petions when you become a participant in the event,

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Speaker 4: and he obviously became a participant. My guess is that

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Speaker 4: he will not be I don't know if he'll be indicted.

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Speaker 4: He certainly won't be convicted the way they're gonna. If

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Speaker 4: they're gonna if they're going to take a dive on

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Speaker 4: the indictment, what they'll usually do is they'll basically, you know,

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Speaker 4: because grand jury stuff is secret. So what the sort

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Speaker 4: of these left wing career prosecutors will do is they'll

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Speaker 4: basically sandbag it. They'll bring on in effect defense witnesses

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Speaker 4: for Lemon, and basically in the grand jury proceedings, they'll

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Speaker 4: convince the grand jury not to go forward. And because

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Speaker 4: it's sealed, the public never knows that the prosecutor took

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Speaker 4: the dive and basically sold the grand jury on not

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Speaker 4: moving forward. And all you'll read in the paper is that,

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Speaker 4: oh wow, the guy you know, no indictment, right, But

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Speaker 4: I just can't see us moving forward.

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Speaker 2: I think they're running away from it tho as a

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Speaker 2: storyline in my opinion, Neil, I've got about thirty seconds.

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Speaker 2: Can I ask you quickly about the Washington Post announcing

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Speaker 2: they're cutting hundreds of jobs. Your reaction to.

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Speaker 7: That, finally some good news. I hate that paper. All

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Speaker 7: those people do is lie. That newsroom is a basket

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Speaker 7: of snakes. Good good for them. Let that's the.

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Speaker 2: Free market at work, is that what you're saying.

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Speaker 7: Let's say none of them wept.

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Speaker 4: I was on the last staff of Human Events when

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Speaker 4: it was a newspaper. None of them wept for me,

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Speaker 4: so good luck they're responsible the two biggest political hopes

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Speaker 4: in this country, Watergate and the Russian collusion.

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Speaker 7: God love them. Good luck hit the bricks.

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Speaker 2: His name is Neil McCabe. I hope this is the

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Speaker 2: first of many times we get to talk in the future,

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Speaker 2: my friend at Real America's Voice at Neil W. Mccab

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Speaker 2: on X. Thank you sir very much for your time.

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Speaker 7: R'd be good.

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Speaker 6: The Christi Gall Show starts right now on Sale News Shows.

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Speaker 2: Hey, great to be with you, folks. Welcome in to

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Speaker 2: the Thursday edition of The Stigall Show. Glad to have

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Speaker 2: you on board today. Coming up. We were talking a

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Speaker 2: little bit about it in the last hour with our

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Speaker 2: buddy Neil McCabe over at Real America's Voice, and that

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Speaker 2: is The Washington Post. You know, as somebody who's been

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Speaker 2: in media now, I mean it's been my career twenty

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Speaker 2: five years that I've been doing it so far and

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Speaker 2: counting hopefully God willing. But I've certainly seen my fair

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Speaker 2: share of cutbacks and slices and dices, economic ups and downs, layoffs, firings.

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Speaker 2: I've seen it all. But for some reason, when it

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Speaker 2: comes to American journalist, some institutions like the Washington Post.

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Speaker 2: They and those who cover Washington d C. Seem to

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Speaker 2: think they should be immune. I think differently. Plus, there

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Speaker 2: is still a lot of concern and the appropriate concern,

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Speaker 2: that American medicine is way too politically active. We're going

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Speaker 2: to get into that coming up too sit tight. Hey,

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Speaker 2: everybody's trying to save money where they can. If you

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Speaker 2: buy your own health insurance or if you're on Obamacare,

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Speaker 2: you know how expensive those premiums are getting. It's why

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Speaker 2: I've sent my own parents, my personal friends, and my

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Speaker 2: colleagues to John Ruhlman and his team at US medical

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Speaker 2: Plan dot com. John works with one hundred different private

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Speaker 2: health insurance companies across the country to find you the

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Speaker 2: very best coverage at the very best rates. My own

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Speaker 2: parents saved four hundred dollars a month each on their

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Speaker 2: Medicare supplemental health insurance premiums reaching out to John Rouman

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Speaker 2: and US medical Plan dot com. I have a friend

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Speaker 2: in between jobs. She reached out to US Medical Plan

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Speaker 2: to replace her Cobra insurance rates. Saved six hundred dollars

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Speaker 2: a month. A personal friend who buys his own family's

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Speaker 2: health insurance out of pocket. I send him to John

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Speaker 2: and now he's saving one thousand dollars a month. Listen, folks,

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Speaker 2: this is one of the easiest ways to save appreciable

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Speaker 2: money every month without sacrificing coverage. But you're not going

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Speaker 2: to know unless you reach out right now and have

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Speaker 2: the conversation eight seven seven four one zero forty three

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Speaker 2: to twenty one, or log onto us medical plan dot com.

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Speaker 6: You tell me that all of us God, he is

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Speaker 6: Chris to God, Risk to Golf. You have a great show.

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Speaker 6: You have a highly rated show too. By the way,

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Speaker 6: please welcome well.

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Speaker 17: This is the Chris to gall Show.

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Speaker 2: Good to be with you, ladies and gentlemen. I welcome

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Speaker 2: you in San Francisco, California. We're looking live this morning

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Speaker 2: as they get prepared for the Super Bowl. Thanks for

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Speaker 2: watching on the Salem News Channel. Glad to have you

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Speaker 2: along people getting ready for that halftime show that does

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Speaker 2: not feature Bad Bunny. Incidently, the New York Post I

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Speaker 2: think I told you this yesterday. The New York Post

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Speaker 2: reports that the drag performances by Bad Bunny, or at

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Speaker 2: least what they anticipate is going to be a drag performance.

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Speaker 2: I guess he said that's what he's gonna do. I

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Speaker 2: don't know anyway. A viral petition demanding the NFL ditch

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Speaker 2: Bad Bunny in favor of George Strait hundreds of thousands

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Speaker 2: of signatures this week. I don't think that's going to happen.

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Speaker 2: I think the Turning Point folks are creating an alternative

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Speaker 2: halftime show. There's certainly plenty to watch. It will be interesting,

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Speaker 2: although I don't know that they report it. Trying to

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Speaker 2: remember can you track when you got tune in on

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Speaker 2: the Super Bowl? Which I think is probably going to

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Speaker 2: be no disrespect to Seattle or you New England Patriots fans.

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Speaker 2: It will be huge for you, obviously, and we're thrilled

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Speaker 2: for you as fans. But I'm not sure what ratings

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Speaker 2: will be on the Super Bowl. It will be interesting

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Speaker 2: to see if they're very big, and if so, I

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Speaker 2: don't know if they can specifically key in on people's

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Speaker 2: tune in and tune out. I don't know if you can,

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Speaker 2: in other words, say well, the game was huge, but

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Speaker 2: the halftime show was not as huge. I don't know,

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Speaker 2: but I do know that the Turning Point people are

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Speaker 2: going to have numbers to report on how many people

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Speaker 2: tuned in to watch their halftime show instead of the

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Speaker 2: Super Bowls, so we will be watching that with great interest.

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Speaker 2: Our telephone number is eight five five Stagall. If you'd

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Speaker 2: like to get in here today, you can always find

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Speaker 2: me online. If you haven't followed on social media yet,

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Speaker 2: I hope that you will run over to Chris Stigall

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Speaker 2: dot com and get signed up on x I'm linked there, Facebook, Instagram, wherever,

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Speaker 2: click and join. Would you please?

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Speaker 9: So?

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Speaker 2: The Washington Post yesterday announces that they are going to

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Speaker 2: cut tons of staff. I don't know if you saw

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Speaker 2: the reporting. I was talking with Neia McCabe about this

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Speaker 2: a little while ago. Washington Post, owned by Jeff Bezos

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Speaker 2: of Amazon dot Com, began widespread layoffs yesterday. They will

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Speaker 2: drastically shrink the size of the newspaper, affect all departments.

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Speaker 2: The cuts will impact a third of all employees, according

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Speaker 2: to the newspaper spokesperson, a newsroom is losing hundreds of staffers.

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Speaker 2: According to the spokesperson from the Washington Baltimore News Guild union,

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Speaker 2: which represents the Post, the executive editor informed the staff

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Speaker 2: of the reductions, which will impact the international, editing, metro

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Speaker 2: and sports desks, and come just days after the newspaper,

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Speaker 2: founded in eighteen seventy seven, scaled back its coverage of

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Speaker 2: the twenty twenty six Winter Olympics amid mounting financial losses.

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Speaker 2: For too long, we've operated with a structure that's too

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Speaker 2: rooted in the days when we were a quasi monopoly

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Speaker 2: local newspaper, Murray said on the call, adding we need

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Speaker 2: a new way forward and a sounder foundation. The Washington

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Speaker 2: Post undergoing wrenching changes to readership and revenue. This from Reuters. Listen,

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Speaker 2: welcome to media in twenty twenty six. It sucks. It's unfortunate.

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Speaker 2: I never wish anybody lose their job. But if there's

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Speaker 2: one thing I'm an expert in, it's job loss. There's

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Speaker 2: one thing I'm an expert in, it's the fluctuation of

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Speaker 2: the media market. All of us that work on this show,

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Speaker 2: and everyone that I call colleague that works in radio

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Speaker 2: or streaming or broadcast, there's not a one of us

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Speaker 2: they aren't aware of the painful realities of the diversified

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Speaker 2: nature of media today. There's never been more of it,

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Speaker 2: and there's never been more ways for people to get it,

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Speaker 2: which means you've got to be at your absolute best

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Speaker 2: you've got to operate lean, you've got to operate mean,

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Speaker 2: and you've got to give people what they want. You've

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Speaker 2: got to be trustworthy, you've got to be entertaining. And

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Speaker 2: if you're not, the public the market is, they're going

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Speaker 2: to let you know. And I thought the most important

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Speaker 2: thing in this statement from mister Murray was we need

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Speaker 2: a new way forward because for too long were the

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Speaker 2: days that we were a quasi monopoly. That's exactly right.

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Speaker 2: In other way, this is not some tragic accident. It

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Speaker 2: is the predictable collapse of an institution that for too

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Speaker 2: long stopped being a news agency and became a political weapon.

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Speaker 2: You heard Neil mention it in the last hour if

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Speaker 2: you were with us Watergate, it's the myth that the

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Speaker 2: Washington Post still trades on today. Woodward and Bernstein, guided

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Speaker 2: by their FBI source, deep throat, following a trail of

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Speaker 2: tapes and bribes and cover ups until a president resigned

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Speaker 2: and the nation watched in awe. Books were written and

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01:15:37,800 --> 01:15:40,640
Speaker 2: sold by the millions on the subject. Hollywood turned it

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01:15:40,680 --> 01:15:47,400
Speaker 2: into civic folklore. Journalism schools filled with idealists who believed

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Speaker 2: that two determined reporters toppled corruption, just simply by following

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Speaker 2: facts wherever they led. I would say that era led

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01:15:58,880 --> 01:16:02,920
Speaker 2: to journal realistic activism. It was not about facts. After

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Speaker 2: a while, they started to think that maybe they too

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01:16:05,240 --> 01:16:07,519
Speaker 2: could have a film made about them if they toppled

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Speaker 2: the powerful, And so the goal became toppling the powerful,

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01:16:11,000 --> 01:16:15,920
Speaker 2: not following the facts where they led. This perception journalism

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01:16:16,040 --> 01:16:20,880
Speaker 2: is heroic, impartial, fearless, the Golden Promise, but it was

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01:16:20,920 --> 01:16:27,840
Speaker 2: built on a far less romantic foundation, deep throat, if

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Speaker 2: you know. The story was a guy named Mark Felt.

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01:16:32,120 --> 01:16:36,360
Speaker 2: Mark Felt was the FBI's number two and furious that

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Speaker 2: Nixon bypassed him for the director's job after j Edgar

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Speaker 2: Hoover's death. Felt and his leaks were not civic virtue.

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Speaker 2: It was bureaucratic revenge. Kind of remind you of maybe

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Speaker 2: an Alexander Vindman of the modern era. The Post, of course,

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01:16:55,400 --> 01:17:00,360
Speaker 2: was far far too eager and more than willing to

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01:17:00,439 --> 01:17:04,759
Speaker 2: serve as the vehicle for score settling. They didn't like Nixon,

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01:17:04,800 --> 01:17:07,400
Speaker 2: they were happy to have the story to print, and

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01:17:07,439 --> 01:17:10,800
Speaker 2: so once that partnership proved effective, the Post learned the

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01:17:10,840 --> 01:17:16,160
Speaker 2: wrong lesson aligning with the deep state, That is, the

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Speaker 2: permanent bureaucracy in Washington could be used to damage political enemies.

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Speaker 2: You see, so actually using the deep state, weaponizing the

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Speaker 2: deep state against people they don't like. Watergate, in fact,

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Speaker 2: had not become a model for exposing corruption. It became

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Speaker 2: a partisan template. Republicans, especially Republicans who threatened the power

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Speaker 2: base of Washington, d C. They became the default black hat.

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Speaker 2: Democrats instantly became the protected class. Russia collusion, what do

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Speaker 2: we know about that? Well, that was treated as holy

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Speaker 2: writ hunter Biden's laptop, that was Russian disinformation election in

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Speaker 2: ten concerns. Well, those were and still are just conspiracy theories.

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Speaker 2: You hear them talking about it now with Fulton County. Ah,

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01:18:08,760 --> 01:18:11,840
Speaker 2: this has been litigated, This has been investigated. There's no

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Speaker 2: there there, there's no question about it. It's weird journalism,

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01:18:15,680 --> 01:18:20,320
Speaker 2: isn't it to just say shut up and quit asking? Meanwhile,

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Speaker 2: the irs, what did they do? We know they've targeted conservatives.

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Speaker 2: We know the misconduct by the FBI well documented. We

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Speaker 2: know the breakdown at the border. We know the massive

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Speaker 2: nonprofit fraud networks, the NGOs, the schools, siphoning relief funds.

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Speaker 2: What do we get from the Washington Post and others

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01:18:45,840 --> 01:18:48,639
Speaker 2: barely a whisper. They're too busy toppling the powerful, don't

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01:18:48,680 --> 01:18:56,760
Speaker 2: you know? Corruption only seems to count when it wore

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Speaker 2: the wrong jersey. If they had the capital D on

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01:19:01,280 --> 01:19:05,839
Speaker 2: their jersey, they were fine. The Washington Post and outlets

1341
01:19:05,880 --> 01:19:09,080
Speaker 2: like it, look the other direction still do. The thing

1342
01:19:09,200 --> 01:19:14,200
Speaker 2: is the consumer, the reader. This case in the Washington Post,

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01:19:14,240 --> 01:19:19,040
Speaker 2: they noticed people will pay for hard to get facts.

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Speaker 2: I see it everywhere. We have so many friends who

1345
01:19:21,400 --> 01:19:25,760
Speaker 2: come to this show who have followers by the millions collectively,

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01:19:26,640 --> 01:19:29,920
Speaker 2: who are now paying for substack, subscriptions and the like

1347
01:19:30,120 --> 01:19:36,040
Speaker 2: because they want that raw, unfiltered verification. They want raw,

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Speaker 2: unfiltered reporting, and they're paying now. They are paying, but

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Speaker 2: they're not paying the Washington Post. They're paying subscriptions on

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01:19:44,280 --> 01:19:50,720
Speaker 2: X sometimes in podcasts and independent reporters. But what they

1351
01:19:50,760 --> 01:19:57,479
Speaker 2: want pay for is selective outrage dressed up as journalism.

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01:19:57,680 --> 01:19:59,840
Speaker 2: A newspaper, if that's what you want to call it,

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01:19:59,920 --> 01:20:05,759
Speaker 2: or a journalistic outlet, has one job. It's very very simple.

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01:20:06,560 --> 01:20:16,719
Speaker 2: Tell the truth when truth. If the truth is now

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01:20:18,200 --> 01:20:21,800
Speaker 2: it's sold out, or it's discovered to be false. Ultimately,

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01:20:21,920 --> 01:20:26,479
Speaker 2: their truth that they report because alternative sources have proven

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Speaker 2: what they reported as truth to be completely false. The

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01:20:29,920 --> 01:20:32,800
Speaker 2: readers don't just walk away. They feel cheated, They get

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01:20:32,840 --> 01:20:38,879
Speaker 2: ticked off. COVID is one of the best examples recently

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Speaker 2: that I can think of. The Washington Post convinced itself

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Speaker 2: that subscribers all they wanted was ideological comfort food. And

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Speaker 2: I suppose that's true of many of them. But most

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Speaker 2: most people, most honest, decent people, they just want accuracy.

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Speaker 2: And when truth becomes optional and partisan, subscribers become optional

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Speaker 2: to their circulation cratered and no paywall. I mean, you

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Speaker 2: can charge people to read your stuff all you want,

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Speaker 2: but you're not going to be able to save a

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Speaker 2: product that stopped delivering what you promised. The layoffs now

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Speaker 2: it's an obituary. Democracy dies in the darkness. That was

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Speaker 2: their big theme, but they built the darkness actually, brick

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Speaker 2: by brick. The irony here could choke a horse.

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Speaker 6: Missed the show live.

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Speaker 17: You know anything about podcasts, I've been getting into podcasts.

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Speaker 5: I love podcasts.

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Speaker 2: Club president yesterday on the layoffs at the Washington Post.

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Speaker 2: He says today's layoffs at the Post are a devastating

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Speaker 2: setback for the scores of individual journalists affected and for

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Speaker 2: the journalism profession. Again, I don't wish that anyone would

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Speaker 2: lose their job. I know what it's like. I've lost

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Speaker 2: my job multiple times in my career. It sucks. I've

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Speaker 2: lost it for performance reasons, bad fits. I've lost it

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Speaker 2: because of budgetary reasons. It sucks, it's scary, it's hard.

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Speaker 2: I don't wish it on anyone. But this is an

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Speaker 2: industry that I always understood came with risks, now more

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01:24:43,479 --> 01:24:46,920
Speaker 2: so than ever, as media has grown and diversified, the

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Speaker 2: market now has democratized media and journalism. What they don't

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01:24:51,600 --> 01:24:54,920
Speaker 2: like is there is no corner on it anymore. As

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Speaker 2: I said the layoffs from the Washington Post, it's the obituary.

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Speaker 2: Democracy dies in the darkness was their slogan. I mean,

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Speaker 2: is that not the most ironic thing? They built the darkness.

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Speaker 2: They chose sides over telling the truth. I think about

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Speaker 2: late night TV. It's the same thing I loved late

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Speaker 2: night variety television, and it collapsed in just the same

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01:25:21,439 --> 01:25:26,679
Speaker 2: way a guy like Carson and Leno. They skewered everybody.

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01:25:27,320 --> 01:25:31,040
Speaker 2: The laughter crossed the aisles. They wasn't targeted, they weren't

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Speaker 2: interested in settling political scores. They just wanted to laugh.

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Speaker 2: But then the format got retooled, just like at the

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Speaker 2: Washington Post, Republicans became the villains. Democrats are the virtuous

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Speaker 2: protected class, and the jokes were no longer jokes at all.

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Speaker 2: The laughing was just clappter trained seals applauding. The jokes

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01:25:54,240 --> 01:25:58,280
Speaker 2: were sermons. And what happened the viewership, much like at

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01:25:58,280 --> 01:26:03,320
Speaker 2: the Washington Post and their readership if operated the daily

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01:26:03,360 --> 01:26:06,600
Speaker 2: show blew up. CBS just said, to hell with it,

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Speaker 2: We're not even going to be in the business of

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01:26:08,040 --> 01:26:13,479
Speaker 2: doing variety television anymore. The laughs didn't die in variety

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01:26:13,520 --> 01:26:18,960
Speaker 2: television because the audience changed. They died because the hosts changed,

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01:26:19,000 --> 01:26:23,280
Speaker 2: the shows changed, the formula changed. So whether it's Late

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Speaker 2: Night Variety or whether it's The Washington Post, both institutions

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Speaker 2: committed the exact same sin. They fell in love with

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Speaker 2: the idea that they were influencers. First, We're an influencer

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Speaker 2: culture now, you see. So instead of telling the truth,

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Speaker 2: they fell in love with their own brand. The Post

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Speaker 2: crowned themselves the GOP slayer and the shield of the Democrats,

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01:26:53,360 --> 01:26:58,400
Speaker 2: so too did Late Night. They pursued applause from their

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Speaker 2: one tribe. Both of them stopped serving their respective crafts. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 2: you look at something like X or shows like ours

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01:27:09,479 --> 01:27:14,240
Speaker 2: and the Salem News Channel at Large and the Podcast

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01:27:14,320 --> 01:27:20,920
Speaker 2: Network and town Hall They're thriving because they deliver raw,

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01:27:21,200 --> 01:27:29,280
Speaker 2: unfiltered information, no gatekeepers, just real truth and real reporting.

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Speaker 2: Take it or leave it. The Post could have survived,

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Speaker 2: but they chose to become partisans first, and the market spoke.

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Speaker 2: When it comes to medicine, the one thing that I

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Speaker 2: would imagine most of us can agree on is you

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Speaker 2: don't really care about the skin color, or the gender,

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Speaker 2: or sexuality or anything else of the person treating you

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Speaker 2: as much as I would think you'd care about the

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Speaker 2: quality of their education and their ability and their talent level.

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Speaker 2: At least that's me. I'll speak for myself. There is

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Speaker 2: an organization you ought to know about called Do No Harm.

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Speaker 2: The chief medical officer there is a gentleman named doctor

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Speaker 2: Kurt Masseli, and we're thrilled to have him today because

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Speaker 2: they're part of a lawsuit right now tackling this issue

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Speaker 2: of DEI and medicine. It is still very real. We

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Speaker 2: used to talk about this, I know on the campus

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Speaker 2: of pen for instance, it was rampant in these schools

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Speaker 2: that they were elevating people of certain skin colors to

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Speaker 2: graduate or lax more lax rules on medical degrees simply

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Speaker 2: because of their skin color, which is just bananas to me.

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Speaker 2: So doctor Marcelli, I welcome you in. This is still

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Speaker 2: very much a problem in medicine obviously, Good morning, Good.

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Speaker 5: Morning, Chris, wonderful to be here, Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 2: Is that what I'm hearing that you basically are still

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01:29:14,160 --> 01:29:16,479
Speaker 2: at Do No Harm sounding the alarm on this trend

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01:29:16,560 --> 01:29:20,080
Speaker 2: that is still very real, and that is we're practicing

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Speaker 2: medicine through artificial terms and artificial metrics.

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Speaker 5: Unfortunately, this is the case. DEI is unfortunately alive and

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Speaker 5: well within medicine and at our organization Do No Harm,

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01:29:33,520 --> 01:29:35,880
Speaker 5: we're doing everything we can to return the focus to

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Speaker 5: patients and get identity politics out of medicine. And like

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Speaker 5: you noted, that's why our court case against UCLA is

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Speaker 5: so important, because UCLA is engaging in race conscious admissions

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Speaker 5: and these are folks who are entering medical school and

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Speaker 5: certainly those are the folks that are going to be

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Speaker 5: our doctors in the future. And as you've noted, medicine

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Speaker 5: is often about life and death situations, and we need

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Speaker 5: to make sure that the very best person is before us,

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Speaker 5: whether we're in that er, whether we're in the or

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Speaker 5: no matter where we are, we want the very best,

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Speaker 5: and we know that all people want the very best,

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01:30:05,640 --> 01:30:08,720
Speaker 5: the most qualified positions. And the other piece is that

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Speaker 5: this is obviously illegal.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 5: We have the Civil Rights Act from nineteen sixty four,

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01:30:14,040 --> 01:30:17,320
Speaker 5: we have the United States Constitutions equal Protection clause in

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01:30:17,360 --> 01:30:19,759
Speaker 5: the fourteenth Amendment, and even in the case of UCLA,

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01:30:19,840 --> 01:30:23,960
Speaker 5: there's the California Constitution which actually specifically says that, again,

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01:30:24,160 --> 01:30:27,640
Speaker 5: this idea of race conscious admissions in medical school or

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01:30:27,640 --> 01:30:30,599
Speaker 5: in any school is just illegal. We've got to focus

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01:30:30,680 --> 01:30:33,599
Speaker 5: on returning merit to medicine and making sure that we're

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01:30:33,600 --> 01:30:36,120
Speaker 5: doing the very best for the patients that we support.

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01:30:37,040 --> 01:30:40,520
Speaker 2: Do you have any evidence, doctor Marceli, that academic standards

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01:30:40,760 --> 01:30:43,360
Speaker 2: never mind just kind of you know, the gender or

1511
01:30:43,400 --> 01:30:48,040
Speaker 2: the racial components have come into play, But have academic

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01:30:48,160 --> 01:30:54,120
Speaker 2: standards been lowered for certain entities to promote certain classes

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01:30:54,240 --> 01:30:57,800
Speaker 2: or races or whatever. And I'm meaning, could we see

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01:30:57,840 --> 01:31:01,479
Speaker 2: doctors promoted get their degree put on their white life quote, uh,

1515
01:31:01,520 --> 01:31:03,760
Speaker 2: and they just quite frankly not be as sharp as

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01:31:03,760 --> 01:31:04,640
Speaker 2: some other graduates.

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01:31:06,360 --> 01:31:08,880
Speaker 5: Well, we've seen this start with the emissions process, with

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01:31:08,920 --> 01:31:12,880
Speaker 5: this idea of what's called holistic review, where the merit

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01:31:12,920 --> 01:31:16,360
Speaker 5: in medicine. The Medical college admission exam, the MCAT is

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01:31:16,400 --> 01:31:20,000
Speaker 5: actually given much lower priority, as is one's GPA, their

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01:31:20,000 --> 01:31:22,800
Speaker 5: grade point average from college given much lower priority. And

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01:31:22,840 --> 01:31:25,880
Speaker 5: we actually see a focus on again this holistic picture

1523
01:31:25,920 --> 01:31:28,800
Speaker 5: of the individual, which may focus on things as to

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01:31:29,160 --> 01:31:32,120
Speaker 5: what community involvement they have, what social justice issues they've

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01:31:32,160 --> 01:31:35,080
Speaker 5: worked on, what their preview exam score is, which is

1526
01:31:35,280 --> 01:31:38,880
Speaker 5: a test that actually is there to assess one's one

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01:31:39,000 --> 01:31:42,240
Speaker 5: sort of cultural competence and how well how compassionate and

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01:31:42,240 --> 01:31:45,559
Speaker 5: empathetic they are. And so when these other measures start

1529
01:31:45,640 --> 01:31:48,840
Speaker 5: moving to the forefront, it diminishes the merit and such

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01:31:48,880 --> 01:31:51,120
Speaker 5: that that really is what is the heart and soul

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01:31:51,400 --> 01:31:55,200
Speaker 5: of us being competent, practicing providers. And then what we've said.

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Speaker 2: Asked you about. I'm sorry to interrupt you on this point,

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01:31:57,160 --> 01:31:59,680
Speaker 2: but I think this is a really fascinating argument that's

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01:31:59,640 --> 01:32:03,519
Speaker 2: the left often makes politically. Doctor Miscelli, doctor Kurt Miscelli

1535
01:32:03,520 --> 01:32:06,280
Speaker 2: with us again at do no Harm, Do No harmmedicine

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01:32:06,320 --> 01:32:10,080
Speaker 2: dot org. I have heard people say, well, doctor Miscelli

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01:32:10,160 --> 01:32:14,280
Speaker 2: is a white guy. He can't really understand or treat

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01:32:15,040 --> 01:32:18,439
Speaker 2: a black woman from the inner city the same way

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01:32:18,479 --> 01:32:22,120
Speaker 2: a fellow black woman, could do you buy any of

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01:32:22,160 --> 01:32:25,000
Speaker 2: that as as someone who practices medicine, Is there anything

1541
01:32:25,080 --> 01:32:27,320
Speaker 2: to that at all?

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01:32:28,000 --> 01:32:31,360
Speaker 5: Chris, that's the argument of what's called racial concordance, that

1543
01:32:31,520 --> 01:32:35,360
Speaker 5: black patients need black doctors, and conversely, you could argue

1544
01:32:35,400 --> 01:32:38,759
Speaker 5: white patients need white doctors. And if anything, that's just wrong,

1545
01:32:38,840 --> 01:32:42,400
Speaker 5: that's segregation, that's moving us back seventy years ago. And

1546
01:32:42,439 --> 01:32:45,280
Speaker 5: in fact, what black patients want, what white patients want

1547
01:32:45,439 --> 01:32:47,799
Speaker 5: is the most competent doctor. We actually did a survey

1548
01:32:47,840 --> 01:32:50,639
Speaker 5: at Dono Harm of five hundred Black Americans to assess

1549
01:32:50,680 --> 01:32:53,160
Speaker 5: what is the one thing that they value most in

1550
01:32:53,200 --> 01:32:56,280
Speaker 5: Over eighty eight percent said it's a highly competent physician.

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01:32:56,560 --> 01:32:58,479
Speaker 5: And that makes sense, that's what we all want. And

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01:32:58,520 --> 01:33:01,080
Speaker 5: so this idea of racial concord even if you look

1553
01:33:01,080 --> 01:33:03,920
Speaker 5: in the literature, it actually has been proven wrong. It

1554
01:33:03,920 --> 01:33:06,519
Speaker 5: doesn't show any sort of bearing, and I think it's

1555
01:33:06,520 --> 01:33:09,679
Speaker 5: important we do no harm. Actually looked at multiple meta

1556
01:33:09,720 --> 01:33:12,600
Speaker 5: analyzes that studied this issue, and there's no benefit in

1557
01:33:12,680 --> 01:33:15,400
Speaker 5: terms of the outcomes and such that people receive. A

1558
01:33:15,400 --> 01:33:18,200
Speaker 5: couple of studies may show some communication differences and such,

1559
01:33:18,200 --> 01:33:20,640
Speaker 5: but the reality is that there's a lot of methodological

1560
01:33:20,800 --> 01:33:24,000
Speaker 5: issues with those studies, and ultimately, in terms of outcomes,

1561
01:33:24,040 --> 01:33:27,040
Speaker 5: in terms of what matters to patients doing well, it

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01:33:27,040 --> 01:33:29,360
Speaker 5: doesn't matter if your physician is black or white. What

1563
01:33:29,439 --> 01:33:32,720
Speaker 5: matters is they're competent, if they're excellent quality, and that's

1564
01:33:32,720 --> 01:33:35,040
Speaker 5: what we need to continue to make sure we promote.

1565
01:33:36,000 --> 01:33:39,719
Speaker 2: And you know what I hate in this era of

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01:33:40,040 --> 01:33:42,960
Speaker 2: modern medicine getting as politicized as it has. And I've

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01:33:43,000 --> 01:33:48,200
Speaker 2: talked with some of the folks like doctor Oz and

1568
01:33:48,600 --> 01:33:52,599
Speaker 2: the team around RFK Junior. I've said to those guys,

1569
01:33:52,840 --> 01:33:58,960
Speaker 2: it's turned a lot of us very skeptical and dubious

1570
01:33:59,080 --> 01:34:01,680
Speaker 2: of many of the things men and women who call

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01:34:01,760 --> 01:34:04,439
Speaker 2: themselves doctors tell us today. It used to be not

1572
01:34:04,560 --> 01:34:07,839
Speaker 2: long ago, if doctor said it, you trust a doctor.

1573
01:34:08,280 --> 01:34:11,200
Speaker 2: And now there is a in an eight built in

1574
01:34:13,200 --> 01:34:16,599
Speaker 2: I almost say, hostility or mistrust in so many people.

1575
01:34:17,640 --> 01:34:20,120
Speaker 2: What's your politics? Doctor? Before you tell me the way

1576
01:34:20,160 --> 01:34:22,280
Speaker 2: I should treat this thing, or take this shot, or

1577
01:34:22,320 --> 01:34:25,000
Speaker 2: take this medicine, what are your politics? Not a place

1578
01:34:25,040 --> 01:34:26,919
Speaker 2: I want to go, but a place we find ourselves,

1579
01:34:26,960 --> 01:34:27,519
Speaker 2: I think.

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Speaker 5: And that's truly unfortunate, Chris, because ultimately it shouldn't matter

1581
01:34:32,160 --> 01:34:34,680
Speaker 5: if the person before us as a Republican, a Democrat,

1582
01:34:34,720 --> 01:34:37,240
Speaker 5: whoever they are, the key should really be that that

1583
01:34:37,320 --> 01:34:40,320
Speaker 5: person has my interest at heart, that they're bringing their

1584
01:34:40,360 --> 01:34:43,240
Speaker 5: expertise that they learned in medical school and residency and

1585
01:34:43,280 --> 01:34:46,519
Speaker 5: from their practice experience, that they're bringing that body of knowledge,

1586
01:34:46,560 --> 01:34:49,559
Speaker 5: the studies they read, the articles they interpret, that they're

1587
01:34:49,560 --> 01:34:52,599
Speaker 5: bringing that into the exam room and helping you as

1588
01:34:52,640 --> 01:34:55,000
Speaker 5: the patient to live your very best life, to improve

1589
01:34:55,040 --> 01:34:57,799
Speaker 5: your quality of life, to help you really be healthy,

1590
01:34:57,840 --> 01:35:01,200
Speaker 5: maintain wellness, whether physical, mental, whatever it might be. And

1591
01:35:01,720 --> 01:35:05,800
Speaker 5: it really is unfortunate because that avenue of politics has

1592
01:35:05,880 --> 01:35:09,040
Speaker 5: clouded the discussion so much. And as you noted, whether

1593
01:35:09,120 --> 01:35:11,879
Speaker 5: it's been past you know, five six years since COVID

1594
01:35:12,240 --> 01:35:15,640
Speaker 5: and the like, it really has done a disservice to medicine.

1595
01:35:15,720 --> 01:35:18,000
Speaker 5: And we in medicine need to return to the science,

1596
01:35:18,040 --> 01:35:21,000
Speaker 5: to the clinical practice so that we can restore that time.

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01:35:21,040 --> 01:35:24,400
Speaker 5: Honor doctor patient relationship that is just so critical to

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01:35:24,479 --> 01:35:27,120
Speaker 5: helping people get well and be well.

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01:35:27,160 --> 01:35:29,720
Speaker 2: What do you, doctor, Kurt Misseli with us? This is

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01:35:30,479 --> 01:35:33,880
Speaker 2: maybe a little off field here, So forgive me people

1601
01:35:33,920 --> 01:35:38,880
Speaker 2: that have decided to forego various things. Maybe it's cancer treatments,

1602
01:35:38,960 --> 01:35:42,519
Speaker 2: or maybe it's certain vaccinations for various reasons. Whatever the

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01:35:42,600 --> 01:35:46,000
Speaker 2: reasons may be, what should a doctor's response be to

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01:35:46,040 --> 01:35:49,559
Speaker 2: that patient. Because I hear increasingly more people say I'm

1605
01:35:49,560 --> 01:35:52,200
Speaker 2: not sure, I feel comfortable with that, or I question that,

1606
01:35:52,360 --> 01:35:54,720
Speaker 2: or I'd like a second opinion, or maybe I'm not

1607
01:35:54,760 --> 01:35:56,280
Speaker 2: going to do the thing you'd like me to do.

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01:35:57,000 --> 01:36:00,160
Speaker 2: And I hear sometimes people who practice medicine get hostile

1609
01:36:00,240 --> 01:36:02,559
Speaker 2: in reaction to that. They don't like it, they get

1610
01:36:02,600 --> 01:36:06,840
Speaker 2: critical or upset. What is the proper balance there?

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01:36:09,160 --> 01:36:12,200
Speaker 5: The key is the relationship between the doctor and patient,

1612
01:36:12,240 --> 01:36:15,320
Speaker 5: and as part of that relationship, it's important for the

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01:36:15,360 --> 01:36:18,639
Speaker 5: doctor to really, of course come with open arms, come

1614
01:36:18,680 --> 01:36:21,080
Speaker 5: with the evidence, come with the data, but to also

1615
01:36:21,120 --> 01:36:24,240
Speaker 5: address that in a compassionate and understanding way, to understand

1616
01:36:24,240 --> 01:36:27,479
Speaker 5: where the patient is coming from. And in some respects,

1617
01:36:27,479 --> 01:36:31,479
Speaker 5: it really is that conversation that's entailed, and certainly the

1618
01:36:31,520 --> 01:36:34,760
Speaker 5: expertise that we have as physicians and the like, the

1619
01:36:34,800 --> 01:36:37,479
Speaker 5: training that we've been through, we need to bring that forward,

1620
01:36:37,600 --> 01:36:39,600
Speaker 5: not in an overbearing way by any means, but in

1621
01:36:39,880 --> 01:36:42,320
Speaker 5: a way that really helps the patient move forward in

1622
01:36:42,360 --> 01:36:44,559
Speaker 5: their life and such and so I think it's just

1623
01:36:44,600 --> 01:36:47,439
Speaker 5: so important for us to always well, to never lose

1624
01:36:47,479 --> 01:36:50,040
Speaker 5: sight of who's before us, the individual that's before us,

1625
01:36:50,160 --> 01:36:52,160
Speaker 5: how we're aiming to care for them, how we're aiming

1626
01:36:52,200 --> 01:36:54,320
Speaker 5: to really help them be well. And I think when

1627
01:36:54,320 --> 01:36:56,839
Speaker 5: we do that, when we come with that understanding, that bearing,

1628
01:36:57,360 --> 01:36:59,519
Speaker 5: I think we can achieve so much more in making

1629
01:36:59,520 --> 01:37:02,719
Speaker 5: sure that they're life is one of richness and fullness.

1630
01:37:02,760 --> 01:37:06,040
Speaker 5: So it really gets back to that relationship. And that's

1631
01:37:06,040 --> 01:37:08,640
Speaker 5: why again it's so important for us to not have

1632
01:37:08,720 --> 01:37:12,000
Speaker 5: politics in the exam room, because that just corrupts the relationships.

1633
01:37:12,000 --> 01:37:14,080
Speaker 5: It makes us think differently, It makes us wonder, is

1634
01:37:14,439 --> 01:37:18,120
Speaker 5: the person here here for different reasons than my health

1635
01:37:18,120 --> 01:37:20,160
Speaker 5: and my well being, And so it just becomes all

1636
01:37:20,200 --> 01:37:22,760
Speaker 5: the more important to focus it on patient care and

1637
01:37:22,800 --> 01:37:25,320
Speaker 5: to really do the right thing for folks. And you know,

1638
01:37:25,360 --> 01:37:27,519
Speaker 5: certainly in this case, that it starts in medical school

1639
01:37:27,520 --> 01:37:30,200
Speaker 5: by making sure that we've got the most qualified folks there,

1640
01:37:30,320 --> 01:37:32,880
Speaker 5: that we're teaching them the sciences, that we're not going

1641
01:37:32,880 --> 01:37:37,000
Speaker 5: into the politics, that we're focused on making good quality physicians,

1642
01:37:37,000 --> 01:37:38,400
Speaker 5: not social justice warriors.

1643
01:37:39,520 --> 01:37:42,120
Speaker 2: Doctor Curt Marcelli A big question here. I've got about

1644
01:37:42,120 --> 01:37:45,280
Speaker 2: a minute and that is, do you see medicine decentralizing.

1645
01:37:45,640 --> 01:37:51,120
Speaker 2: I'm hearing more people going the holistic route or boutique medicine,

1646
01:37:51,160 --> 01:37:53,519
Speaker 2: if you will. They're leaving practices, they're opening their own

1647
01:37:53,640 --> 01:37:56,000
Speaker 2: cash on the barrel head kind of clinic no insurance.

1648
01:37:56,400 --> 01:37:58,200
Speaker 2: Do you think that's on the rise or is that

1649
01:37:58,320 --> 01:38:00,120
Speaker 2: just an immediate finn.

1650
01:38:02,400 --> 01:38:04,400
Speaker 5: I think that the market certainly could call for that,

1651
01:38:04,439 --> 01:38:07,800
Speaker 5: where there's a demand from the consumer. The patients seem

1652
01:38:07,880 --> 01:38:10,240
Speaker 5: to have more of that holistic approach. I think there's

1653
01:38:10,240 --> 01:38:13,040
Speaker 5: certainly something out there. But again, the reality is that

1654
01:38:13,120 --> 01:38:15,559
Speaker 5: as providers, we need to focus and make sure that

1655
01:38:15,600 --> 01:38:18,320
Speaker 5: we're providing the very best that we're based in the evidence,

1656
01:38:18,360 --> 01:38:20,719
Speaker 5: that we're based in the science. You know that we're

1657
01:38:20,760 --> 01:38:24,400
Speaker 5: not sort of offering things that aren't grounded in that

1658
01:38:24,400 --> 01:38:27,120
Speaker 5: that clinical foundation, and so you know, where there may

1659
01:38:27,120 --> 01:38:29,559
Speaker 5: be a demand for that, we'll certainly see those those

1660
01:38:29,600 --> 01:38:32,840
Speaker 5: avenues and such. But ultimately, for all of us as physicians,

1661
01:38:33,080 --> 01:38:35,840
Speaker 5: we've got to focus on providing what is what is

1662
01:38:35,920 --> 01:38:39,400
Speaker 5: sound solid evidence that that again we can find by

1663
01:38:39,560 --> 01:38:42,360
Speaker 5: by studying the science ourselves, by using our critical reasoning

1664
01:38:42,720 --> 01:38:45,080
Speaker 5: and keeping the patient at the center of it.

1665
01:38:46,200 --> 01:38:49,679
Speaker 2: Do no Harm is the organization Do No Harmmedicine dot

1666
01:38:49,800 --> 01:38:51,800
Speaker 2: org if you'd like to read more about the work

1667
01:38:51,800 --> 01:38:54,280
Speaker 2: that the chief medical Officer and his team at Do

1668
01:38:54,360 --> 01:38:56,720
Speaker 2: No Harmer doing, Doctor Kurt Masseli, this has been a

1669
01:38:56,720 --> 01:38:59,040
Speaker 2: great conversation and I think an important one. All of

1670
01:38:59,120 --> 01:39:01,760
Speaker 2: us need doctors at at some point, and so I

1671
01:39:01,880 --> 01:39:03,720
Speaker 2: love talking about this. I hope you'll come back and

1672
01:39:03,760 --> 01:39:04,840
Speaker 2: continue to enlighten us.

1673
01:39:04,960 --> 01:39:08,920
Speaker 5: Doctor would absolutely love to really appreciate it.

1674
01:39:09,840 --> 01:39:13,400
Speaker 2: The Prayer Breakfast is just getting underway. Donald Trump is

1675
01:39:13,880 --> 01:39:15,639
Speaker 2: stepping up to the podium here in just a little

1676
01:39:15,680 --> 01:39:17,320
Speaker 2: bit and he's going to be speaking at the National

1677
01:39:17,320 --> 01:39:20,280
Speaker 2: Prayer Breakfast. Of course, we'll have those comments and his

1678
01:39:20,360 --> 01:39:23,200
Speaker 2: remarks tomorrow. It's always good to see the President of

1679
01:39:23,240 --> 01:39:25,040
Speaker 2: the United States at the Prayer Breakfast, just like it's

1680
01:39:25,040 --> 01:39:27,439
Speaker 2: good to see the Vice president at the March for

1681
01:39:27,520 --> 01:39:32,200
Speaker 2: Life a couple of weeks ago. This is a white House,

1682
01:39:32,240 --> 01:39:34,920
Speaker 2: this is a presidency that values prayer. The seventy fourth

1683
01:39:35,040 --> 01:39:37,680
Speaker 2: National Prayer Breakfast. Good to see it. We'll have that

1684
01:39:37,920 --> 01:39:40,479
Speaker 2: full coverage tomorrow. By the way, speaking of President Trump,

1685
01:39:40,560 --> 01:39:43,200
Speaker 2: he also plans to install This is just kind of

1686
01:39:43,200 --> 01:39:47,479
Speaker 2: the ultimate troll, not that I don't think he means it,

1687
01:39:47,560 --> 01:39:49,400
Speaker 2: and not that I don't think it's sincere, but he's

1688
01:39:49,479 --> 01:39:52,240
Speaker 2: virtually daring the American left to get into these fights.

1689
01:39:52,320 --> 01:39:55,000
Speaker 2: I think he knows goading them into these things is

1690
01:39:55,080 --> 01:39:58,240
Speaker 2: good for the political business, which is why kind of

1691
01:39:58,280 --> 01:40:02,080
Speaker 2: out of nowhere, yesterday we get the and I mean

1692
01:40:02,120 --> 01:40:04,600
Speaker 2: no disrespect to people that care about this issue, I

1693
01:40:04,680 --> 01:40:06,679
Speaker 2: just mean this kind of seems to come out of nowhere.

1694
01:40:06,720 --> 01:40:10,080
Speaker 2: President Trump planning to install a statue of Christopher Columbus

1695
01:40:10,160 --> 01:40:14,280
Speaker 2: on White House grounds, according to three people with knowledge

1696
01:40:14,280 --> 01:40:17,120
Speaker 2: of the move in his latest effort to quote and

1697
01:40:17,120 --> 01:40:22,280
Speaker 2: this is from the Washington Post, the aforementioned layoff headquarters

1698
01:40:23,800 --> 01:40:27,680
Speaker 2: in his latest effort to remake the presidential campus and

1699
01:40:27,800 --> 01:40:32,160
Speaker 2: celebrate the famed and controversial explorer. The statue is set

1700
01:40:32,240 --> 01:40:34,360
Speaker 2: to be located on the south side of the grounds,

1701
01:40:34,400 --> 01:40:37,720
Speaker 2: by E Street and north of the Ellipse, two people said,

1702
01:40:37,760 --> 01:40:41,360
Speaker 2: although they cautioned plans could change. The three people spoke

1703
01:40:41,360 --> 01:40:44,080
Speaker 2: on the condition of anonymity to recount private discussions. The

1704
01:40:44,120 --> 01:40:48,360
Speaker 2: piece is a reconstruction of a statue unveiled in Baltimore

1705
01:40:48,400 --> 01:40:50,920
Speaker 2: by President Reagan and dumped in the city's Harbor by

1706
01:40:50,920 --> 01:40:55,080
Speaker 2: protesters in twenty twenty, as a racial reckoning swept through

1707
01:40:55,120 --> 01:40:58,960
Speaker 2: the country. A group of Italian American businessmen and politicians,

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Speaker 2: working with local schools, obtained the destroyed pieces and rebuilt

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01:41:03,400 --> 01:41:07,080
Speaker 2: the statue with financial support from local charities and federal

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01:41:07,120 --> 01:41:11,639
Speaker 2: grant funding. Bill Martin, Italian American businessman who helped recover

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01:41:11,680 --> 01:41:14,400
Speaker 2: the remnants of the original sculpture and organize a campaign

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01:41:14,400 --> 01:41:16,960
Speaker 2: to rebuild it, said the statue is expected to be

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01:41:17,040 --> 01:41:21,400
Speaker 2: transferred from a warehouse on Maryland's eastern shore to the

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01:41:21,439 --> 01:41:24,519
Speaker 2: Trump administration in the coming weeks. The White House declined

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01:41:24,520 --> 01:41:29,920
Speaker 2: to comment, but the president sticking a Columbus statue on

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01:41:30,000 --> 01:41:32,479
Speaker 2: White House grounds is awesome. Did you see the rendering

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01:41:32,520 --> 01:41:35,280
Speaker 2: by the way of the East Wing? They released that drawing.

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01:41:35,479 --> 01:41:38,840
Speaker 2: That thing looks gorgeous. The east wing, the ballroom for

1719
01:41:38,880 --> 01:41:41,400
Speaker 2: the White House looks at least from the angle of

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01:41:41,439 --> 01:41:44,719
Speaker 2: the rendering, the drawing almost looks bigger than the White

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01:41:44,720 --> 01:41:48,160
Speaker 2: House and the residents itself. It's going to be huge,

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01:41:49,120 --> 01:41:51,320
Speaker 2: and it's funny. I saw a couple of Trump haters saying,

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01:41:51,320 --> 01:41:53,840
Speaker 2: you know, when Trump leaves, they're going to scrape every

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01:41:54,040 --> 01:41:57,400
Speaker 2: last thing his name's on off and say, you know

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01:41:57,880 --> 01:42:00,720
Speaker 2: that's fine. You know, he installed these two giant flagpoles

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01:42:00,720 --> 01:42:03,479
Speaker 2: in the North and South lawn, the Columbus Statue, puts

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01:42:03,479 --> 01:42:06,160
Speaker 2: his name on the Kennedy Center. He's going to build

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01:42:06,200 --> 01:42:09,479
Speaker 2: this new East wing and more. They're talking about an

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01:42:09,600 --> 01:42:13,960
Speaker 2: arc the Trump sort of an arc de triomph homage

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01:42:14,080 --> 01:42:16,960
Speaker 2: in Washington, DC. He's going to build these things, and

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01:42:16,960 --> 01:42:19,599
Speaker 2: he's going to do it all with private funds. And

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Speaker 2: I don't think he's under any illusion that it's all

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01:42:22,120 --> 01:42:24,400
Speaker 2: going to stay, you know, like he's got the portico

1734
01:42:24,479 --> 01:42:28,840
Speaker 2: there in the Rose Garden is lined with presidential photos

1735
01:42:28,880 --> 01:42:31,280
Speaker 2: and then the one for Biden. It's nothing but a pen.

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Speaker 2: I don't think Donald Trump thinks this stuff is sticking

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01:42:35,560 --> 01:42:38,840
Speaker 2: around after he leaves. I actually think this is like

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01:42:38,960 --> 01:42:42,920
Speaker 2: a lasting dare. I think what President Trump is in

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01:42:43,800 --> 01:42:46,920
Speaker 2: ensuring is that for years to come, even after he's gone,

1740
01:42:46,960 --> 01:42:50,000
Speaker 2: there will be great national discussions and the media will

1741
01:42:50,000 --> 01:42:54,879
Speaker 2: show triumphantly the next Democrat or whomever comes, and he's

1742
01:42:55,000 --> 01:42:57,080
Speaker 2: daring them, Okay, what are you gonna do? Rip down

1743
01:42:57,080 --> 01:43:00,240
Speaker 2: American flags from the White House lawn? What are you

1744
01:43:00,280 --> 01:43:04,040
Speaker 2: gonna do? Rip down the Columbus statue. What are you

1745
01:43:04,080 --> 01:43:07,439
Speaker 2: gonna do? Bulldoze this beautiful new ballroom I've just built

1746
01:43:07,439 --> 01:43:10,160
Speaker 2: with private funds. I think he's almost daring the left

1747
01:43:10,200 --> 01:43:13,519
Speaker 2: to get involved in these cultural fights because he knows

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Speaker 2: it's good for politics. See you tomorrow. So that's a

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Speaker 2: wrap for another Christa Gall Show podcast. Thanks for committing

1750
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Speaker 2: to it listening to it all the way through. You're

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Speaker 2: a fighter. I like that about you. Hope you'll leave

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Speaker 2: it a five star review and a written review Apple Podcasts, Spotify.

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Speaker 2: We'll see you next time here on The Christa Gall

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