1 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:04,920 Speaker 1: Breaking down politics, culture, and the buzz of the day 2 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:08,720 Speaker 1: with bold conversations about faith, family and living. 3 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 2: What you believe. 4 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 1: This is the Danielle Gill Show. 5 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 3: Somewhere in the world right now, a child is approaching 6 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:18,639 Speaker 3: his father and asking him some tough questions about where 7 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 3: babies come from, which will naturally lead to the question 8 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 3: is that where I come from? Too? Or what about me? 9 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 3: Where did I come from? For the parent, these types 10 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 3: of awkward yet highly rewarding exchanges become some amusing memories. 11 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:36,519 Speaker 3: However they answer them will undoubtedly form that child's understanding 12 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 3: of the world. They learn about the frighteningly awesive power 13 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 3: in it, galvanizing differences between men and women, their biological differences. 14 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 3: They learn about their mother, father, their birthline. There's love, 15 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 3: there's affection, there's family unit, the family picture. From that, 16 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 3: moving on, the child would begin to understand that the 17 00:00:56,640 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 3: family is a nucleus, the nuclear family, we say, not 18 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 3: only of their personal life, but of society, of the 19 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 3: country of civilization itself. And this is all well and 20 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 3: good to you know, explain to them as they're older. 21 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 3: But I want you to imagine a growing reality from 22 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 3: many children who were born this day. These days, it 23 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 3: is a different reality than what I just described. For 24 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:22,679 Speaker 3: many children, the answer to the question where do I 25 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 3: come from? Is this. You're the product. 26 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:30,400 Speaker 2: Of a you know seed, an egg donor an egg 27 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 2: placed in another person carefully selected based on certain criteria 28 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 2: appearance and background and quality, but who nonetheless. 29 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 3: Remains completely anonymous. You'll never know this person who gave. 30 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 1: Birth to you. 31 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 3: Your fertilized egg was chosen from amongst several primarily you know, 32 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 3: because it was gender tested. The sisters or other siblings 33 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 3: you have. You may not know now by siblings this 34 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 3: could mean DNA related, or this could mean the birth mother, 35 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 3: the surrogrant mother's other children. Perhaps she's been birthing other people, 36 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:12,239 Speaker 3: but you may not actually be DNA related to depending 37 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:15,359 Speaker 3: on who is caring what You were then transferred to 38 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 3: the womb of a compliant female for gestation or living in. 39 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 3: Personal medical expenses were fully funded by your father perhaps 40 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 3: the mother, and subsidized by you know, other organizations. She 41 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 3: made birth to you, but she had no genetic connection 42 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 3: to you. There was probably an emotional attachment from growing 43 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 3: in that person for nine months of hearing that person's heartbeat, 44 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 3: of sharing nutrients with them then giving birth to you, 45 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 3: But then you were taken from them, ripped from their arms, 46 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 3: and given to other people who you may share all 47 00:02:54,120 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 3: or some DNA with. This then would likely interfere with 48 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 3: the emotional attachment, the nutritional attachment of surrendering this child 49 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:10,920 Speaker 3: via contractual obligation, when this person was hired to do 50 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 3: this role and was merely paid a sum of money 51 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 3: in order to birth you. So, on top of that 52 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 3: mechanical and transactional origin story, which is quite different from 53 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 3: the origin story that children have heard for thousands of 54 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 3: years about how they came into this world, that child 55 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 3: will have to contend with all the other dehumanizing aspects 56 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 3: of modern life. He will grow up never knowing what 57 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 3: a perhaps gender diverse household is, and by that I 58 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 3: mean a parent who's a man and a parent who's 59 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 3: a woman, So having a mother and a father not 60 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 3: all children have that anymore. He may be screen addicted. 61 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 3: His teachers will teach him to hate white people, hate 62 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 3: the patriarchy. He may only have friends who are AI chatbots. 63 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 3: He may never see art or hear music that wasn't 64 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 3: created by a machine. You will grow up in a 65 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 3: society that doesn't care about this inhuman practice that has 66 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 3: led to all of this impersonal modernity, a practice we 67 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 3: blithely allow without a single moral equipple, for fear of 68 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 3: being seen as bigoted or unkind. Now I'm talking about circusy. 69 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 3: If you're someone who sees how dangerous, how warped a 70 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:33,840 Speaker 3: crazy sergacy is, you might be afraid to say that because, 71 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 3: like I said, you might be afraid of being called 72 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 3: unkind or bigoted. But why is that, Well, it's because 73 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:43,479 Speaker 3: our society puts the desires of adults over the needs 74 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 3: of children. Our society says, if any adult wants this 75 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 3: doesn't matter. You know what, We think that that's great 76 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 3: because anything adults went on demand, they should be able 77 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 3: to order on Amazon Prime. If an adult really likes this, 78 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:01,279 Speaker 3: then you know what, We'll just put kids through whatever 79 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:05,359 Speaker 3: hell they have to in order to appease the adults. Now, 80 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 3: it's sad because the people who ultimately suffer are the children. 81 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 3: The children who do not grow up with a mother 82 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:15,720 Speaker 3: and a father, the children who don't grow up with 83 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:18,840 Speaker 3: the woman who carried them into this world, children who 84 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 3: don't share their DNA with Sometimes, the people who are 85 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 3: just dating them. Now, when this child reaches adulthood, he 86 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 3: will become exactly what a modern world might expect. It's 87 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 3: not a dystopian novel that I'm talking you about right now. 88 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 3: This is reality. This is the real world that we 89 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 3: are in now. Of course, we celebrate, we love every 90 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 3: human being who is created, who's brought into this world. 91 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 3: But when we think about loving someone, we have to 92 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 3: think about, wow, you know, we actually want them to 93 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 3: come into this world with parents. And I think a 94 00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 3: lot of these people who advocate for sergacy don't even 95 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 3: see all of the discarded embryos, all of the people 96 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 3: who are created and who are discarded, as we have 97 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 3: talked about on the show, which happens with IVF. Oftentimes 98 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:17,359 Speaker 3: sergasy is kind of the next step of IVF. So 99 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 3: you create these embryos for a lot of people who 100 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 3: may not realize what this is because it's quite quite abnormal. 101 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 3: It's not a natural way of thinking about human creation. 102 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 3: They're taking sperm, taking embryo, selecting for which ones are 103 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 3: high grade I'm sorry, eggs creating embryos. They see which 104 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:38,599 Speaker 3: ones are high grade, anyones that have abnormalities, anyones that 105 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 3: have any problems those get discarded, thrown in the trash 106 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 3: but bye. And then any of the ones that make it, 107 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 3: they have degrade them based on how how good they are. 108 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 3: And then yes, there are people who do the sex selection, 109 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 3: people who select for different traits. But basically that is 110 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 3: then in planted into a third party, a person who 111 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 3: is not related to this child, who is not the 112 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:08,359 Speaker 3: mother or the father, and is paid money in order 113 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 3: to carry this child for nine months and give birth 114 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 3: to them. And then they are sent back to the 115 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 3: parents or potentially people who actually don't share both DNA 116 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 3: with them. So this might be gayo lesbian couples who 117 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 3: obviously they don't have a sperm and an egg, they 118 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 3: have only one, and so the other one is not 119 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 3: related to them and is from a donor or a 120 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 3: friend I don't know, somewhere where they where they got that, 121 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 3: and so then the child goes to one of those 122 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 3: people who they share the DNA with. Now you might 123 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 3: be thinking yourself, this is so insane, how do I 124 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 3: even comprehend this? And that is a valid thought, But 125 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 3: we need to, we need to think about it, because 126 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 3: if we don't think of it, this will continue to 127 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 3: go on. Now to be clear. Once these people are 128 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 3: born into this world, we love them. They are the 129 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 3: same have the same dignity as every other human being, 130 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 3: just like a child who was born in a difficult 131 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 3: home or came out of rape or wedlock or whatever, 132 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 3: it doesn't matter. They are human being. But what I'm 133 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 3: objecting to when I want to talk about today is 134 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 3: this is rewinding, going back to this practice itself, the 135 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 3: creation of this and the exploitation of these women who 136 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 3: are treated as I mean, they call them servants, but yeah, 137 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 3: literally a gestational womb that is for hire in order 138 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 3: to birth human beings, giving up a year of their 139 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:50,559 Speaker 3: life to do this, and then obviously the child. As 140 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 3: many of you probably know who are listening, when you 141 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 3: go through pregnancy, you're not just a gestational womb. You 142 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 3: are completely in sync with the baby. So anything you 143 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:04,079 Speaker 3: eat affects a baby, anything you drink affects of baby. 144 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 3: Your heartbeat is heard by the baby. All these things 145 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:13,079 Speaker 3: are synced up. The taste they get in the amniotic fluid, 146 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 3: the whole rhythm of the mother and the baby are 147 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 3: completely sacd and so that's why after a baby is born, 148 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 3: they often, you know, put the baby in your chest, 149 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 3: you are, you know, as close as possible to the 150 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 3: baby doing the skin to skin contact because the baby 151 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 3: is so at home and feels so comfortable with the 152 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 3: actual mother. Now. I know, at times when the mother 153 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 3: is like, you know, had a surgery or shit not available, 154 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 3: they'll do a skin to skin with a father or 155 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 3: someone else, and that is better than nothing. But ultimately 156 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 3: the baby really wants the mother. And the sad thing 157 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 3: about service is the baby is taken away from the 158 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 3: woman who the baby thinks is their mother or the 159 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 3: baby has been growing inside this woman since their creation, 160 00:09:56,240 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 3: since they were a tiny, you know, tiny embryo. It's 161 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:02,319 Speaker 3: taken away from that woman and never sees her again, 162 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 3: and is then having to be given formula or some 163 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 3: kind of outside food source from the people who then 164 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 3: take the baby home as if it was like a 165 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 3: souvenir that they picked up at a shop. So this 166 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 3: is very disturbing because I think a lot of us 167 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 3: when we look at pregnancy, we look at mothers, we 168 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 3: look at babies. We just instinctively know that mothers and 169 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 3: babies they need to be together. A newborn infant who 170 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 3: is just born needs its mother and for the baby 171 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 3: to be robbed of that. To not have that woman 172 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 3: is actually quite traumatic for the newborn brain, for their 173 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 3: nervous system. Now, the people who might share the DNA 174 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 3: or part of the DNA think, oh, well, i'm the mother, 175 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 3: we share the DNA, And that's true, you do. But 176 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:01,079 Speaker 3: this is why you should not divorce. Worse, those two 177 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 3: roles they are one and the same. They've been one 178 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 3: of the same for thousands of years. They should remain 179 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 3: the same. Where the woman whose DNA it is, that's 180 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 3: inside her. To then put that inside another woman is 181 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 3: basically saying I don't know. It's basically saying I'm gonna 182 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 3: put my child in another person and let them take 183 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 3: off with that person. You know, you hope for the best, 184 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 3: you hope they don't start drinking alcohol or something. But 185 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 3: it's not their baby. It's not their child. They're not 186 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 3: going to be keeping the baby after this. This is 187 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:38,319 Speaker 3: one of a one year gig for this woman and 188 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 3: she's not gonna get to keep the baby. So this 189 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:45,199 Speaker 3: is all really just to say that this is a 190 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 3: warped way to go about child rearing, child bearing. But 191 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 3: this is a cold hard reality of the world we 192 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 3: live in today. And like I said earlier. It doesn't 193 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 3: revolve around kids, doesn't revolve around what's best for them. 194 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:02,959 Speaker 3: It revolves around a parent, an adult, two people they 195 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 3: could be of the same gender or not, who say, 196 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 3: we want to have kids, So donate to us your 197 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 3: reproductive things. Donate to us your spermum or egg or 198 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 3: whatever it is that you don't have. So if you're 199 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:25,199 Speaker 3: a gay couple, obviously you would need the egg from someone, 200 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:27,679 Speaker 3: and if you were a lesbian couple, you would need 201 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:33,440 Speaker 3: a sperm donor. And then literally creating people. And then 202 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 3: when your kids are older, they're like, where did I 203 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:38,079 Speaker 3: come from? And you're like, oh, shoot, I don't really 204 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:41,439 Speaker 3: want to answer that question. That's a little complicated for you, Johnny. 205 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 3: And then of course you have to explain to the 206 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 3: kids how they got down this road. Now, this has 207 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 3: been normalized in our society because the liberals have taken 208 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:54,319 Speaker 3: over so much of our country, and there are places 209 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 3: like New York where literally there's so much other debauchery 210 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 3: going on that like this is kind of low on 211 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 3: the list, perhaps, But when it comes to children, when 212 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 3: it comes to the human family and God's creation and 213 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 3: God's design for human procreation, this is a very important issue. 214 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 3: It's like the big business of child gender transitioning. It 215 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:22,680 Speaker 3: is equal parts of money making picture and in human 216 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:27,679 Speaker 3: travesty comes from humans wanting what they want when they 217 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 3: want it now, and the reason it's supplied to them 218 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 3: is because it is a big business. And these big 219 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 3: fertility clinics and the places that do this, they don't 220 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 3: want to stop it even if they saw what was wrong. 221 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 3: I saw what was going on, because it makes them 222 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 3: so much money. The age of the synthetic human has arrived. 223 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 3: Circusy has been in the news lately as gay couples 224 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 3: have been exploiting their children, and of course we see 225 00:13:53,200 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 3: that many male gay couples only want boys, baby boys. 226 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna go into why that might be, but 227 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 3: we have seen people who have been arrested and who 228 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:12,320 Speaker 3: have been exposed for child abuse. So the reaction has 229 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 3: understandably been one of universal horror. And I'm not saying 230 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 3: that that is purely because of you know what these 231 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 3: people did. But it is more common, let's just say. 232 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 3: And circusy itself is not known. But in the old 233 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 3: days it was a messier business. It was not as common. 234 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 3: It was fraught with emotional pit bulls. It's because you know, 235 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 3: the mother was carrying the baby was perhaps also the 236 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 3: egg donor for the gay couple. Now, that's just traditional sergacy, 237 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 3: because at least there's one thing in common where the 238 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 3: egg is with the the woman carrying it, shears the DNA. 239 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 3: But like I said, that's not always the case. Heterosexual 240 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 3: couples will have to use in an from a woman 241 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 3: going inside another woman who is not related to that. 242 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 3: So anyways, newspapers back in the day often ran stories 243 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 3: detailing how a new mother refused to relinquish her child 244 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 3: to the child's purchasing client. People will then take a 245 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 3: stand and say, oh, well this person signed a contract 246 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 3: and so they have to give up the baby, or well, 247 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 3: this person is the one who's you know, kind of 248 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 3: contractually obligated. But then those resorting to sergacy were typically 249 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 3: couples dealing with fertility issues in their own There were lawsuits, 250 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 3: court battles. TV screens were full of posturing ethicists contemplating 251 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 3: how to resolve such thorny moral issues that resulted from 252 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 3: a fresh horror that we have unleash on ourselves in modernity. 253 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 3: Needless to say, the inherent problem of that process was 254 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 3: the nearly inevitable personal attachment experienced by the mother carrying 255 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 3: the child. It never really mattered what kind of contracts 256 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 3: she signed or how sincerely she promised to only care 257 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 3: the child to term. I mean, if you think about 258 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 3: the concept of pregnancy or birth, it's completely different than 259 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 3: actually going through it. It's completely different to actually be 260 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 3: literally physically attached to a baby. So naturally things get 261 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 3: very messy. Sergacy remained a somewhat niche answer to some 262 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 3: infertility issues, but scientists, ever eager to profit no matter 263 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 3: the moral cost, returned to their labs to work out 264 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 3: even better solutions. Advancements were made, and egg donation IVF, 265 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 3: you know, took on new levels where they said, oh, 266 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 3: let's just do even more egg retriebles, let's just take 267 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 3: out even more and let's create even more people more embryos, 268 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 3: and you know, then you have more chances to implant them, 269 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 3: and then if they don't work, you know what, no 270 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 3: big deal. Or if a lot of them aren't you know, 271 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 3: a little bit off or not ideal, we'll just discard them. 272 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 3: So this allows the to be combined with the sperm 273 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 3: in any laboratory setting, embryos are oftentimes frozen, some of 274 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 3: them frozen for years, and others are discarded. So suddenly 275 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 3: the whole biological equation that governed reinproduction was turned on 276 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 3: its head. No more parents, no more just normal I guess, 277 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:25,119 Speaker 3: way of creating babies anymore. It's all about donors. It's 278 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 3: all about the fertility clinic. You're going to be going 279 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:30,160 Speaker 3: into that doctor constantly if you're going down this road, 280 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 3: because they're going to have to time everything and give 281 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 3: you all kinds of drugs. So it became possible to 282 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:38,879 Speaker 3: mass produce entire armies of unborn children and then freeze 283 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:42,639 Speaker 3: their progress at the very moment of conception, and thus 284 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 3: the enshoyement of their souls, stow them in the freezer. 285 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 3: Then came the next idea, not an innovation as much 286 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 3: as it was a perversion of a natural order. It's 287 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 3: called gestational circusy, and that now accounts for ninety one 288 00:17:56,480 --> 00:18:00,159 Speaker 3: point eight percent of sales in the circusy market for 289 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:04,919 Speaker 3: some analysis. So yes, I'm using the word sales to 290 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 3: describe this because it is a big a business where 291 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 3: the product is a human being and that's what you're selling. 292 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 3: So if you're a woman who wants to be servant 293 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 3: served in the situation, you are selling your body. You're 294 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:21,120 Speaker 3: selling your womb so that it can be used by 295 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 3: one of these people who will take you through this 296 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 3: medical procedure to implant this person inside of you. Now, 297 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 3: a lot of the time, these women who become surrogates, 298 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:34,680 Speaker 3: they are destitute, and I think a lot of them 299 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 3: go down this road. Just like any woman in a 300 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 3: desperate situation. She says, you know what, I need money. 301 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 3: I obviously don't know if this would have been my 302 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:50,200 Speaker 3: number one job goal gosh, but I'm going to do this. 303 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 3: And then a lot of the time it isn't until 304 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:55,920 Speaker 3: the baby is born, till they see each other face 305 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:57,880 Speaker 3: to face, or till the baby's almost born. They've gone 306 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:00,399 Speaker 3: through all these doctors appointments, and they love baby so 307 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 3: much that they say, I don't want to get out 308 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:07,360 Speaker 3: the baby. And now that's one problem. You could also 309 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 3: have the opposite problem, where you have a serget who's like, 310 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:11,639 Speaker 3: you know what, I'm not attached to this baby. I 311 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 3: don't care about this baby. It's not my baby. So 312 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 3: I'm gonna drink gagahol. I'm gonna do drugs. I'm gonna party, 313 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 3: or I'm gonna not really eat a lot of food 314 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 3: because I don't care. So you could have one of 315 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 3: two extremes, and both of those extremes are problematic, and 316 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 3: neither one of those, you know, is good for the 317 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 3: I guess people who will be ultimately keeping the baby, 318 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:37,679 Speaker 3: although I obviously sympathize much more with the woman who 319 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 3: is attached to the baby, because that is that is 320 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:45,160 Speaker 3: a much more natural impulse. Pregnancy is designed to make 321 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 3: you have the emotions and the oxytocin and all the 322 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 3: things to be attached to the baby, and so ripping 323 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 3: that baby away from that woman it's gonna be hard. 324 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 3: It's gonna be hard on the woman. But I think 325 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 3: we need to keep the focus on the child, because 326 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 3: the child is the one who is going to just 327 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:05,399 Speaker 3: be completely helpless, have no say in any of this. 328 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 3: They don't get paid any money. They're not someone who 329 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 3: people are really thinking about. There's someone who is just 330 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 3: going to be given to the person who legally owns them, 331 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:20,639 Speaker 3: who's the highest bidder or whatever. It doesn't matter that 332 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 3: they're most comfortable with the surrogate mother. They're going to 333 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 3: be ripped from their woman's arms. So a lot of 334 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 3: the time, when we look at gestational surrogacy, it's a 335 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 3: sad situation. It's something not a lot of people want 336 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 3: to talk about because it is very complex. There's a 337 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:42,120 Speaker 3: lot of science behind it, and a lot of people think, 338 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:44,919 Speaker 3: you know what, who cares. These people want to have 339 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:47,199 Speaker 3: a kid, so let's just let them go about it 340 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 3: by any means necessary. And you know what's the point 341 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 3: in us stopping it, Well, because it means that the child, 342 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 3: the newborn baby, is going to be from their mother's arms. 343 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 3: And it's because we're treating human beings women as commodities 344 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:09,640 Speaker 3: selling their bodies, and because we are separating the act 345 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 3: of creating human life from the human beings, we're taking 346 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 3: the nature of sex and how God designed it, and 347 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 3: we are removing a very key role in that. If 348 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 3: you are someone who studies natural law, then you'll know 349 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 3: that part of sex and procreation is being open to that. 350 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 3: And so when you remove that and you are creating 351 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 3: children test tubes, well, that is completely different from God's 352 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 3: design for creation. And of course we talked a little 353 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 3: bit about this, but a lot of the time, these children, 354 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 3: they don't even have a mother and a father, they 355 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 3: have two mothers, or they have two fathers, and so 356 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:02,119 Speaker 3: the family structure continues to break down more and more. 357 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:06,119 Speaker 3: It means the person carrying the child has no genetic 358 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:11,119 Speaker 3: connection to the person that is growing inside them. The 359 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:13,399 Speaker 3: lack of genetic connection has proven to be the silver 360 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:16,160 Speaker 3: bullet to the problem of maternal connection with the child 361 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:20,879 Speaker 3: she bears. Psychologically and biologically, the child isn't really hers. 362 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 3: She's rent a womb. Some women view this as a 363 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 3: job that pays well. According to a twenty twenty two 364 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 3: article in Fortune magazine that described the booming business of 365 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 3: surrogacy today, the cost to the prospective parents can reach 366 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 3: over three hundred thousand dollars. Serguts themselves may be paid 367 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:43,400 Speaker 3: anywhere up to one hundred thousand dollars per pregnancy. One 368 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 3: woman says she was paid twenty two thousand that's it, 369 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:51,399 Speaker 3: plus incidentals that ran to several thousand dollars more a 370 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 3: month for her first sergacey a year ago. She received 371 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:59,640 Speaker 3: an additional monthly stipend to pump breast milk. So let's 372 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 3: get this straight. The unique value proposition of the gestational 373 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 3: surrogate in this business is her ability to bring a 374 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:09,679 Speaker 3: baby to term devoid of any feeling, lacking any emotion 375 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:13,880 Speaker 3: for her natural maternal connection to the child. Simply put, 376 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:19,119 Speaker 3: it's her ability to kind of embody a sharp eyed, soullessness. 377 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:22,159 Speaker 3: So pump milk. Really just keep that going. But you 378 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:27,359 Speaker 3: know what, don't think about the baby. It's not your baby. Congratulations, science, 379 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:31,639 Speaker 3: you've managed to discover something worse than the world's oldest profession, 380 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 3: literally selling one's body as an incubator. The calculus for money. 381 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 3: In the process of the commodification of not only her 382 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:44,440 Speaker 3: own body, but also the body of her infant baby 383 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 3: that is being taken from her, somehow managed to make 384 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 3: somehow manages to make these kind of other traditional oldest 385 00:23:55,280 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 3: professions seem boring and combarrassing. It's like, oh, yeah, that's 386 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:01,920 Speaker 3: you know, from the olden days. 387 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:02,880 Speaker 2: This is the new. 388 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 3: Way to sell your body. But let's just not focus 389 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 3: on the poor gest data here. There are other other 390 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 3: things we need to look at. There's the wider fertility industry, gosh, 391 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 3: which has managed to make so much money off of this. 392 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 3: And not to mention this, by the way, this doesn't 393 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:25,199 Speaker 3: always work for couples. They will get people's hopes up 394 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 3: saying oh yeah, it's going to be great and doesn't work. 395 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 3: They make so much money off of people, off of 396 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:36,239 Speaker 3: their hopes, their dreams, and a lot of them end 397 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:39,719 Speaker 3: up crushed. It has managed to manage to persist despite 398 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 3: its clear immorality. But who can worry about immorality when 399 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 3: money has such a proven effect to make the conscience 400 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:51,399 Speaker 3: stay silent again. According to Fortune, the global sergacy business 401 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 3: was worth only four billion in twenty twenty, and then 402 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:58,640 Speaker 3: increased to fourteen billion by twenty twenty two. You can 403 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 3: bet that most of that is coming from because more 404 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 3: recent numbers indicate that twenty twenty five US market alone 405 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 3: is already at twenty four billion dollars is projected to 406 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:11,680 Speaker 3: reaching market size of seventy eight billion by twenty thirty one. 407 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:16,440 Speaker 3: Keep in mind, that's not the fertility industry vertical broadly speaking, 408 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 3: service is just the niche segment of the overall fertility market. 409 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 3: The fertility market is actually much larger seventy eight billion 410 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:32,479 Speaker 3: dollars annually. To manufacture, destroy, and sell human lives, it 411 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 3: employs doctors, nurses, scientists, social workers, egg donors, sperm donors, 412 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 3: donor recruiters, surrogates, agencies, representatives, doctors, and of course where 413 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 3: would we be without throwing a few lawyers into the mix. 414 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 3: So fertility is a big industry. Attorneys are the black 415 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 3: mold of the rot of this whole thing, who oftentimes 416 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 3: see a man's downfall, and they would be complete without 417 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:07,400 Speaker 3: some attorney gleefully rubbing his hands together as he contemplates 418 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:12,199 Speaker 3: the windfall of this entire industry. So it's tough to 419 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 3: track exact employment, but according to IBIS World Reports, the 420 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:19,920 Speaker 3: US fertility industry alone employs over forty four twenty twenty five. 421 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 3: That's not including the larger constellation of support staff. That's 422 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 3: a lot of people, so naturally you can expect that 423 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 3: not all of them can be paid enough to keep 424 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:31,360 Speaker 3: their consciences from having them waking up screaming in horror 425 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,719 Speaker 3: in the middle of the night. So in swoops that 426 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 3: friend of every human tragedy in the modern age, left 427 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 3: is virtue signaling. Of course, it's much easier to ignore 428 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:46,399 Speaker 3: your own culpability and the destruction of mankind if you 429 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 3: ignore the morality question by immediately assuming the role of 430 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:53,639 Speaker 3: the self righteous jerk on a crusade against such vile 431 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:59,680 Speaker 3: influences such as patriarchy or homophobia or heteronormativity and other 432 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 3: upwards enter the charities, and contrary to some assumptions about 433 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 3: the involvement of Christian charities, the charities that subsidize servicey 434 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:13,200 Speaker 3: are overwhelmingly secular. Most of them, I would say a 435 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 3: very high percentage have an LGBTQ focus, right because LGBTQ 436 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 3: people they can't have kids. They can't have kids in 437 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 3: a natural way. So this is the only way. So 438 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,120 Speaker 3: you know, two women women can't make a baby. Two 439 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 3: men can't can't make a baby. Two I don't even 440 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 3: know lgbt Q I as cannot So they turn to 441 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 3: this industry. And so who supports it. Obviously the left. 442 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 3: Some people on the right do too, because they may 443 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 3: not realize how evil it is. Maybe they themselves want 444 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:51,920 Speaker 3: to partake in it, or maybe they just they just 445 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 3: don't want to stand up. These organizations include groups like NHB, 446 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 3: which is Men Having Baby what it stands for, which 447 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 3: runs g PAP, which stands for Gay Parenting Assistance Program. 448 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:11,439 Speaker 3: MHB is active across the West, including places such as 449 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 3: Australia and New Zealand. The Czech Republic of Germany and Poland. 450 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,639 Speaker 3: Commences are happening across the US, and they report the 451 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 3: numbers grew last year by seventy percent. Of course, they're 452 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 3: in San Francisco, but they're also operating in places like 453 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:28,640 Speaker 3: Texas and Tennessee. While Catholic and Lutheran charities openly decreate 454 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 3: the process of IVF and service in general, secular charities 455 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:36,879 Speaker 3: like Baby Quest Foundation, Gift of Parenthood, Journey to Parenthood 456 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 3: Proud People claim that they don't discriminate against any prospective clients, 457 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 3: be the single, single parent or LGBTQ. These organizations probably 458 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 3: work with mhb's Gay Parenting Assistance Program to provide discounts 459 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 3: discounted in free services donated by more than one hundred 460 00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 3: leading IVF sercey, egg donation and legal service providers to 461 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 3: prospective parents. Discounted and donated complementary services include fertility medication, 462 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:11,720 Speaker 3: es grows services, insurance resource services. You might want to ask, 463 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 3: if the process is so expensive that it costs hundreds 464 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 3: of thousands of dollars a child, then why is a 465 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 3: charity even necessary? Can't they just pay for this themselves? 466 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 3: There's no charity to help millionaires by yachts or mansions. 467 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 3: This seems like a luxury. Maybe that'll deter people from 468 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 3: engaging in it because it's so expensive. I can ask 469 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 3: a charity to subsidize my purchase of a Lamborghini or 470 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 3: whatever it is. So why can these wealthy couples appeal 471 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 3: to massive charities in the process of obtaining children. Well, 472 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 3: that's the other function of leftist virtue, where the cloak 473 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 3: of faux virtue would suddenly subsidize an extremely expensive abomination 474 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 3: that makes you the mother Teresa of Marxist materialism. No 475 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 3: one needs these subsidies. They exist for the sole purpose 476 00:29:55,320 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 3: of spreading human misery through the normalization of this whole process. 477 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 3: Sergacey is the only way that two men can raise 478 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 3: a child that is biologically related to one of them. 479 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 3: These charities are a way to incentivize more gay couples 480 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 3: to buy more circuit women. Like most virtue singling, there 481 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 3: is very little actual virtue involved. The charities are more 482 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 3: about finding an excuse to inject a little more flirting 483 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 3: fund into their lives. It's part of their annual report 484 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 3: on twenty twenty five accomplishments. MHB noted we also saw 485 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 3: a significant increase in participation in our social night out events. 486 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 3: These informal gatherings bring together conference attendees alongside local gay 487 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 3: dads and past participants local gay bars, creating vibrant spaces 488 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 3: that helped foster meaningful connections. Ah. Yes, nothing can Day's 489 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 3: heartfelt love for the renting of a womb for a 490 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 3: child than the smallest and most needy in society, more 491 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 3: than finding an excuse to have anonymous Connor relationships in 492 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 3: a bar bathroom as a way to celebrate the process 493 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 3: of gay men purchasing these women's wounds, renting them, and 494 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 3: oftentimes only creating little boys. Let the cat out of 495 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 3: the bag on that phone. But the fact is, the 496 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 3: technology that makes servicey possible also allows prospective parents to 497 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 3: select the embryo by gender before it's implanted into the 498 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 3: circuit pre implantation genetic testing. This is routine as part 499 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 3: of the IVF process that checks the embryo for unwanted 500 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:37,520 Speaker 3: genetic defects such as the being female. Yes, because in 501 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,959 Speaker 3: same sex households, the parents demonstrated a preference for their 502 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 3: own gender a lot of the time. Many lesbian couples, 503 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 3: many of them actually preferred to have girls because many 504 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:52,360 Speaker 3: of them do not like men so much. Gay males 505 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 3: tend to prefer male children, and so likewise, the embryos 506 00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 3: that are created that are the opposite gender and discarded. 507 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 3: So what would we think of a situation like this. 508 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 3: I think we would all be appalled. I think if 509 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 3: everyone knew what service he was and what was involved 510 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 3: in it, people would find it absolutely repugnant. But the 511 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 3: service industry benefits from people not really knowing what it is, 512 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 3: from people thinking, oh, well, don't you want people to 513 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 3: have more kids? Kids are awesome. Yeah, kids are awesome. 514 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 3: They're amazing, they're beautiful blessings. But they come from the Lord, 515 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 3: not from this whole process. Unfortunately, the elephant in the 516 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 3: room here is the same couples are also both sexually 517 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 3: attracted to the gender of the child they're raising. When 518 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 3: I make that choice, when they make that choice, excuse me, 519 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,960 Speaker 3: which presents a lot of issues. We're reminded of the 520 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 3: gay Georgia couple who adopted two boys, sexually abused them, 521 00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 3: recorded that abuse and uploaded it to the internet. All 522 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 3: is part of a wider pornography ring. Thankfully, this happened 523 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:07,320 Speaker 3: in Georgia. So they were indicted and sentenced to one 524 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:11,840 Speaker 3: hundred years without parole. But it's absolutely sickening. Had it 525 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 3: happened in California, they would have been awarded the keys 526 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,360 Speaker 3: to the city probably wouldn't have been punished at all. 527 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 3: Then there's I Am Cullen of Houston, a man who 528 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 3: adopted nine sons only boys and was subsequently sentenced to 529 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 3: over one hundred years in prison of a continual sexual 530 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 3: assault of the boys. Mark J. Newton and Peter Trong 531 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 3: were a gay couple. They purchased a boy for eight 532 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 3: thousand dollars flew him around the world to be abused 533 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 3: by other men. In addition to adoptions and outright purchasing 534 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 3: child slaves, we also have the twenty twenty five story 535 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 3: of Brandon Keith Mitchell, a Tier one sex offender, proudly 536 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 3: displaying his newly purchased baby with his gay partner Logan Riley. 537 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:55,320 Speaker 3: So the sergacy industry vets for genetic defects like being 538 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 3: the wrong gender or the wrong kind of egg donor, 539 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 3: but won't expend the absolute minu effort to check if 540 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:04,720 Speaker 3: their client is himself a sex offender. This is left 541 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 3: to s virtue, the moral prerogative of the perpetually indifferent 542 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:12,719 Speaker 3: and lazy. I get it. Abuse of that nature, while unfortunate, 543 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,800 Speaker 3: isn't the kind of thing we can hang on same 544 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:20,360 Speaker 3: sex couples. That is undeniably true. Let me also point out, however, 545 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 3: that growing up without a gender diverse set of parents 546 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:26,319 Speaker 3: is in and of itself extremely bad for a child. 547 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:29,760 Speaker 3: We've talked endlessly about the problems of fatherlessness in America, 548 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:34,160 Speaker 3: how it lowers I cues, is leading to a lifetime 549 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 3: of struggle for boys. So imagine being a boy who 550 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,400 Speaker 3: never grows up with a mother, never grows up with 551 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 3: a father. You only grow with one gender because your 552 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 3: parents are gay. But what about children raise without mothers? 553 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:50,040 Speaker 3: While a lot of the same, Actually, there's an increase 554 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:53,279 Speaker 3: in psychological issues like anxiety, depression, and ability to deal 555 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 3: with stress. Not having a maternal influence leads to relationship issues. 556 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 3: But it's not just the last It's not that, oh, 557 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:03,800 Speaker 3: you know, you're missing a mother, you're missing a father, 558 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 3: and so therefore someone's parent dies you're going to be 559 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 3: like this. No, it's like you're also being modeled what 560 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 3: love is, what parenthood is, and you're being modeled that 561 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:13,719 Speaker 3: that is between two men, or you're bring modeled that 562 00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:17,239 Speaker 3: that is between two women, and it curates a lot 563 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:23,080 Speaker 3: of identity issues. In other words, these children, they're not 564 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 3: the ones being considered for what is best for them. 565 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:29,319 Speaker 3: Children who are raised in these homes a lot of 566 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:32,080 Speaker 3: the time are abused, and if they're not abused, they're 567 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:36,280 Speaker 3: getting a very warped picture of life. They're facing challenges 568 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,600 Speaker 3: on top of challenges, and who will be out for them. 569 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:42,880 Speaker 3: Liftists will argue that we're making the perfect enemy of 570 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,120 Speaker 3: the good. We should just be happy that these kids 571 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:46,800 Speaker 3: are being raised by anyone at all. We should be 572 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:49,880 Speaker 3: happy that anyone just wants to have kids. But in 573 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:54,480 Speaker 3: the case of surrogacy, that's a false Argumentate women are 574 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:58,560 Speaker 3: oftentimes destitutes, struggling, a lot of them are being paid 575 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:02,680 Speaker 3: literally to rent their bodies. Children are being raised in 576 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:08,279 Speaker 3: homes that are absolutely troubling to say the least. And 577 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:14,160 Speaker 3: the people who are going about this eugenic process in 578 00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:17,759 Speaker 3: discarding and throwing away human beings that are embryos and 579 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:23,239 Speaker 3: creating them and renting people to birth them, they're just 580 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 3: getting what they want on demand. And we are the 581 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,960 Speaker 3: ones who are letting this go on, and Big Fertility 582 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,120 Speaker 3: is the one that is making all the money. They're 583 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:37,759 Speaker 3: the ones that are, you know, giving rich because they 584 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:43,360 Speaker 3: are profiting off of all of this. So that wraps 585 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:47,080 Speaker 3: up today's show. Make sure to tune back in tomorrow 586 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,600 Speaker 3: and we will hopefully talk about something a bit more. 587 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:56,400 Speaker 1: Thank you, breaking down politics, culture, and the buzz of 588 00:36:56,400 --> 00:37:00,000 Speaker 1: the day with bold conversations about faith, family and life, 589 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,040 Speaker 1: living what you believe. This is the Danielle Gill Show.