WEBVTT - 496 Hearing God Without Putting Words in His Mouth

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<v Speaker 1>Life Audio.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, welcome to the Praying Christian Woman podcast. I am

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<v Speaker 2>Alana here with Jamie. How's it going?

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<v Speaker 1>Going great. How about you?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm good. Happy back-to-school season to all the parents out

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<v Speaker 2>there and people getting kids or grandkids or neighbor kids

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<v Speaker 2>or foster kids or whoever you're getting off to school.

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<v Speaker 2>Happy back-to-school season to all the teachers and school workers

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<v Speaker 2>and How's the school year started for your family?

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<v Speaker 1>It's been good. It's been a lot of moving parts,

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<v Speaker 1>but the kids are excited about their schools and their classes.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm excited for the school year. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and how about one more special blessing to families

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<v Speaker 2>who have kids start in college or away from home

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<v Speaker 2>for the first time too, or new empty nesters or

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<v Speaker 2>partial empty nesters, whatever season you're in. And happy fall,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess, or spring if you're in the lower hemisphere.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm really excited for today's topic. It is a

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<v Speaker 2>question that I have been mulling over and finally feel

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<v Speaker 2>like I'm at the point where like, I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if you're this way. I need time to like stew

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<v Speaker 2>over certain questions before I would be able to like

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<v Speaker 2>talk through them. And so like if I said, hey, Jamie,

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<v Speaker 2>give me your thoughts about this and you've never thought

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<v Speaker 2>about it before. It might be a little hard, but.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I don't like getting caught off guard.

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<v Speaker 1>And also, I have an input CliftonStrength, so I like

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<v Speaker 1>to research and kind of make sure that my opinion

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<v Speaker 1>is based on something solid. We're kind of jumping into

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<v Speaker 1>this one, so I apologize in advance if I say

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<v Speaker 1>anything off the cuff and people are like, that is

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<v Speaker 1>not biblically accurate.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and that's funny because Your input, I think, works

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<v Speaker 2>in the same way that my intellection does. So Jamie

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<v Speaker 2>and I are using CliftonStrengths languages. It's sort of like

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<v Speaker 2>a personality test, but a little more in-depth and tailored

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<v Speaker 2>more toward, like, I think it was designed for business people.

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<v Speaker 2>But for me, the intellection side is I need to

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<v Speaker 2>think about something before... Being able to really discuss.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like ruminate on it and kind of let it

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<v Speaker 1>rattle around in your mind a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>So while you're doing the research, I'm just doing the pacing.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that. And then we put our two brains together.

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<v Speaker 2>So I've had plenty of time to intellect on this.

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<v Speaker 2>You have had zero time to input on this. So

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<v Speaker 2>the question though is, A, how do we know if

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<v Speaker 2>it is our intuition speaking to us or the Holy Spirit?

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<v Speaker 2>And what I want to focus on even more importantly

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<v Speaker 2>is B, the dangers of assigning Holy Spirit discernment with

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<v Speaker 2>all capital letters to what is the gift of discernment.

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<v Speaker 2>Because if we had a Venn diagram, there would be

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<v Speaker 2>some things that would be just intuition, some things that

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<v Speaker 2>would be just Holy Spirit discernment, and some things in

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<v Speaker 2>the middle. And I think that to live wise lives...

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<v Speaker 2>We need to know where the promptings and desires and

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<v Speaker 2>thoughts are coming from and which we can pinpoint. We're

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<v Speaker 2>never going to get 100% correct, and that's okay, too.

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<v Speaker 2>That's part of humility, in my opinion. But I am

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<v Speaker 2>very excited to talk through this. Do you have a

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<v Speaker 2>verse of the day for us?

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<v Speaker 1>I do. This is John 10, verse 27, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to read it from the New American Standard Bible.

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm using the lexicon and I just want to

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<v Speaker 1>comment on a few of the actual translations from Strong's,

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<v Speaker 1>just of the Greek that it comes from. So it's,

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<v Speaker 1>my sheep hear my voice and I know them and

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<v Speaker 1>they follow me. And I would read this and think,

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<v Speaker 1>my sheep hear my voice. You know, sheep are what

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<v Speaker 1>Christians are referred to, followers of Christ. They follow the

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<v Speaker 1>shepherd who is Jesus. So those of us who are Christians,

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<v Speaker 1>who are believers, we hear his voice. and He knows us,

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<v Speaker 1>and we follow Him. And so I think what we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about today is recognizing His voice. And this, when

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<v Speaker 1>I looked at the lexicon, is not exactly that. The word,

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<v Speaker 1>it's to hear or listen, and that means listen to Him.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't necessarily mean discern. And so we're still a

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<v Speaker 1>little stuck, even with this verse, because yes, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to listen to Jesus. And we know in scripture, those

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<v Speaker 1>are his words. We know that for sure in the Bible.

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<v Speaker 1>But what we're talking about is a little bit different

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<v Speaker 1>from that. And so maybe I should have chosen a

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<v Speaker 1>different verse, but it's too late.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I think that what you just verbally went through

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<v Speaker 2>is the question we're talking about. How do we know

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<v Speaker 2>that difference between recognizing, hearing, listening? So I want to

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<v Speaker 2>start with some definitions like we often do. I also

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<v Speaker 2>want to start with some extremes because I think if

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<v Speaker 2>we can picture the extremes, that helps us to hone

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<v Speaker 2>in on what we're really talking about. So when I

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<v Speaker 2>talk about over-spiritualizing our intuition, the extreme version of that,

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<v Speaker 2>and I bet we have all either encountered people like

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<v Speaker 2>this in real life or like in our caricatured imagination. it's, oh, Jamie,

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<v Speaker 2>I really feel like God is not pleased when you

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<v Speaker 2>wear red.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>Like, it's very clear that God doesn't care that you

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<v Speaker 2>happen to be wearing a bright red shirt today, which

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<v Speaker 2>looks lovely on you, by the way.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's very clear that I.

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<v Speaker 2>Am forcing my opinion on you through God's voice, which

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<v Speaker 2>is so heretical. It is so dangerous. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>go so far as to call this an example of

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<v Speaker 2>using the Lord's name in vain. When I take my

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<v Speaker 2>opinion and I tell you that God is saying it,

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<v Speaker 2>then I have just, as I see it, used the

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<v Speaker 2>Lord's name in vain. I have invoked God for me.

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<v Speaker 2>extremely selfish purposes. So that was the real extreme. But

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<v Speaker 2>it can get trickier. It can get into, well, where

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<v Speaker 2>does God want us to go on a mission trip? Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>God must really want us to go to Hawaii. And

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<v Speaker 2>I say that kind of as a joke, but Hawaii

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<v Speaker 2>could use missionaries just like everywhere else in the world.

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<v Speaker 2>But how do I know if my call to Hawaii

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<v Speaker 2>is Is my body lacking vitamin D because I live

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<v Speaker 2>in Alaska? You know, but if I say God's calling

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<v Speaker 2>me to Hawaii, A, I sound really, really special because

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<v Speaker 2>I can hear God. B, nobody can argue with that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, oh, oh, don't take it up with me.

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<v Speaker 2>Take it up with God, you know, and who's going

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<v Speaker 2>to go against God? And then it also brings sin

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<v Speaker 2>into it. It means that if I don't go to Hawaii,

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<v Speaker 2>I am sinning against the Lord. So those are examples

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<v Speaker 2>of how we might use personal opinion and put that

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<v Speaker 2>under the label of Holy Spirit discernment. And then I

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<v Speaker 2>think we do it with our intuition. And I want

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<v Speaker 2>to say this. It's not bad to have opinions. It's

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<v Speaker 2>not bad. to hope that at some point God tells

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<v Speaker 2>Jamie's family to move and become our next-door neighbors. Like,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not bad to have desires. What is bad is

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<v Speaker 2>when I come to you and say, God has told

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<v Speaker 2>me that you need to uproot your family and come

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<v Speaker 2>be our next-door neighbors. Because you can't argue with that.

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<v Speaker 2>And then somebody's sinning. If you don't do it, you're sinning.

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<v Speaker 2>And It can be very coercive. So some churches and

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<v Speaker 2>high control groups will use it, but it can come

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<v Speaker 2>across in even the most well-intentioned well-meaning. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>give you a caricature that again, I feel like a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people have encountered or can imagine of a

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<v Speaker 2>person who is so flaky, but it's all God's fault.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I was like, oh, Sorry I made you

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<v Speaker 2>wait for an hour. God and I were having a conversation. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you say to that? You can't say anything

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<v Speaker 2>to that.

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<v Speaker 1>No. I have a friend who knew someone that was

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<v Speaker 1>like that. And she kind of told me about it

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<v Speaker 1>in a like almost attitude of admiration for this person.

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<v Speaker 1>She said, this person is never on time. They are

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<v Speaker 1>always late for stuff. but they just are always following God.

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<v Speaker 1>And so it's like, oh, exactly. I think the example

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<v Speaker 1>that was given to me was, I was late because

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<v Speaker 1>the Lord told me to stop and have a conversation

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<v Speaker 1>with this person. And so therefore I was late for

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<v Speaker 1>our prearranged meeting. And just like anything, I think there's

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely a time for that. I think there are times

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<v Speaker 1>when you get interrupted and I will find myself just

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<v Speaker 1>being like, you know what? This is what I was

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<v Speaker 1>meant to be doing right now and not doing this

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<v Speaker 1>other thing. But just like everything, it could be corrupted.

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<v Speaker 1>It could be manipulated because I'm not going to place

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<v Speaker 1>judgment on that. person that was doing that because I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know them. But it could be a sense of

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<v Speaker 1>self-importance of, I'm always about the Lord's work. So you

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<v Speaker 1>little people don't have any bearing on my schedule because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing the Lord's work. And you might be part

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<v Speaker 1>of that and you might not, or you might be

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<v Speaker 1>part of that later than you wanted to, because that

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<v Speaker 1>appointment is overridden by my special hearing from God. That

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<v Speaker 1>attitude can become part of it. Or it could also,

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<v Speaker 1>without being quite as like haughty, it could become an

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<v Speaker 1>excuse for Like your mindset could be flipped and you

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<v Speaker 1>could just be like, oh, I'm it's OK that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not on time ever. The Lord meant for me to

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<v Speaker 1>oversleep because I was maybe having a dream that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think there are two pitfalls like that. But I

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<v Speaker 1>do think that it would be bad to be afraid

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<v Speaker 1>of those God changes in direction. But in the name

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<v Speaker 1>of keeping a schedule, because you could be so bound

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<v Speaker 1>to your schedule that you miss God's work. people's time

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<v Speaker 1>is also important and you should be considerate and you

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<v Speaker 1>should be. So I don't know, like everything, I'm wishy-washy

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<v Speaker 1>and in the middle.

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<v Speaker 2>So I feel like there are certain things that aren't

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<v Speaker 2>good or bad. They aren't God or Satan. They're just

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<v Speaker 2>your personality. There are some personalities that are flighty. There

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<v Speaker 2>are some personalities that have a hard time being on time.

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<v Speaker 2>It can be a little annoying to people that they're inconveniencing,

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<v Speaker 2>and that could be where it ends. But the problem

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<v Speaker 2>is when it turns into something that is so spiritual.

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<v Speaker 2>So here's what it would look like if I over-spiritualized

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<v Speaker 2>my creative intuition. Let's say you're my publisher. And I'm

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<v Speaker 2>writing a book and I have signed a contract. I

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<v Speaker 2>have given you my word that I am going to

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<v Speaker 2>write this book for you. And you've already given me

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<v Speaker 2>some money for it. Okay. And then I come to you.

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<v Speaker 2>I say, Jamie, you are such a great sister in

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<v Speaker 2>the Lord. I totally know you're going to understand this.

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<v Speaker 2>God has called me to another project. So I am

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<v Speaker 2>going to be focused on that. And I will have

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<v Speaker 2>to come back. I have to lay this down on

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<v Speaker 2>the altar. this commitment that I made to you. Now, again,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to be careful in the same way you

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<v Speaker 2>were careful. There might truly be a time where God

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<v Speaker 2>calls somebody to do something like that. But if that

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<v Speaker 2>becomes my personality, I am going to step out on

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<v Speaker 2>what I see as a not flimsy limb and say,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not God, it's your personality, and you are making

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<v Speaker 2>God the fall guy for it. And that's really dangerous

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<v Speaker 2>because what are you going to do now? If you

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<v Speaker 2>cut my contract, which you might have the right to

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<v Speaker 2>do because I didn't deliver, then I could sit here

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<v Speaker 2>and be like, oh, she didn't see God. She was

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<v Speaker 2>so earthly minded. So yes, there are times where big H,

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<v Speaker 2>big S, big D, Holy Spirit discernment come and we

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<v Speaker 2>need to change our plans and people might be inconvenienced

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<v Speaker 2>and we might feel awkward, and it might be really hard,

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<v Speaker 2>but we just know that we've got to do it.

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<v Speaker 2>There might also be times where you can't make a

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<v Speaker 2>commitment and you've got to take that. I've got to say, Jamie,

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<v Speaker 2>I am struggling so much right now. I am having

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<v Speaker 2>such a hard time focusing. I am not going to

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<v Speaker 2>be able to meet this deadline. Can we talk about

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<v Speaker 2>extensions or can we talk about ways that maybe we

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<v Speaker 2>can both get back on track. Or maybe it's a

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<v Speaker 2>life-altering event. It's, I have gotten this terrible diagnosis and

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<v Speaker 2>I need to step away from this. That is so

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<v Speaker 2>different than saying, I've gotten a diagnosis and God has

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<v Speaker 2>told me to step away from this. The end result

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<v Speaker 2>might be the same. It might be the wise choice

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<v Speaker 2>for me to step away from it. But as soon

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<v Speaker 2>as I say, and God has told me to, I

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<v Speaker 2>have assumed so much And I have thrust so much

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<v Speaker 2>on you because what if you come to me and say, actually,

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<v Speaker 2>God told me that we were supposed to submit this

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<v Speaker 2>on time.

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<v Speaker 1>Then what do we do?

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<v Speaker 2>Then we're just two budding rams and nobody's going to give.

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<v Speaker 2>And we're both doing it in the name of the Lord. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I think that's a nuance that's important to hold

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<v Speaker 1>on to because I think sometimes we think it's bad

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<v Speaker 1>to want things just for wanting them. Like you're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about the Hawaii thing. Like, You know, you said it's

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<v Speaker 1>not bad to, it wouldn't be bad to want to

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<v Speaker 1>go to Hawaii. But I think sometimes we put a

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<v Speaker 1>God stamp on it to make it seem like righteousness

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<v Speaker 1>in case the haters are going to hate and say, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>why is she using resources to go to Hawaii when

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<v Speaker 1>she can stay at home or whatever? So, yeah. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think that can be dangerous. I actually found in

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<v Speaker 1>my really quick looking, I found a similar passage to

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<v Speaker 1>our verse of the day. that clarifies a little bit more.

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<v Speaker 1>So can I share that? I think it's John 10

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<v Speaker 1>verses three to five. So I'll just read them first.

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<v Speaker 1>And again, I'm going to do the NASB and then

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<v Speaker 1>go to a couple of these things. But it says,

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<v Speaker 1>to him, the doorkeeper opens and the sheep hear his

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<v Speaker 1>voice and he calls his own sheep by name and

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<v Speaker 1>leads them out. When he puts forth all his own,

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<v Speaker 1>he goes ahead of them and the sheep follow him

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<v Speaker 1>because they know his voice. A stranger they simply will

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<v Speaker 1>not follow, but will flee from him because they do

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<v Speaker 1>not know the voice of strangers. So this is a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit different because it's saying that they will follow,

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<v Speaker 1>like we as Christians are going to follow Jesus because

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<v Speaker 1>we know, which means we have seen or perceived, hence

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<v Speaker 1>to know his voice or his sound. Like that's basically

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<v Speaker 1>saying we'll know his voice because we don't know the

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<v Speaker 1>voice of a stranger. And Again, it's more of an

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<v Speaker 1>allegory because, of course, we hear the voice of Satan sometimes, probably,

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<v Speaker 1>or whispers of the enemy in some way, shape, or form.

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<v Speaker 1>We've heard it, but I think this is kind of

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<v Speaker 1>saying that if, as Christians, I think, and I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to extrapolate, I don't know if I'm theologically accurate or not,

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<v Speaker 1>so take this with a grain of salt because I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not a theologian, but If we spend time with Jesus,

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<v Speaker 1>if we spend time in God's word and we come

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<v Speaker 1>to know the character of what sounds like him, then

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<v Speaker 1>we are not necessarily going to follow a voice that

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<v Speaker 1>is contrary to that because that is not what is

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<v Speaker 1>familiar to us in terms of what we have come

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<v Speaker 1>to know as what Jesus would say. Coming from scripture,

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<v Speaker 1>coming from experience of you know, what is the fruit

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<v Speaker 1>of the spirit? James 3, 17 is another one. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>but the wisdom above is pure, peaceable, gentle, open to reason,

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<v Speaker 1>full of mercy and good fruits, impartial and sincere. And

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<v Speaker 1>so if those things are not coming out of what

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<v Speaker 1>we're hearing, then those are outside of the voice of Jesus.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it still leaves a lot unsaid though. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think it still leaves a lot because like you said,

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<v Speaker 1>moving to Hawaii, I mean, that could come from Jesus,

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<v Speaker 1>but it doesn't necessarily have to come from Jesus. So

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<v Speaker 1>could staying at home.

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<v Speaker 2>And if it doesn't come from Jesus, that doesn't make

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<v Speaker 2>it wrong either. I would say this is going to

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<v Speaker 2>be my biggest takeaway, like the mic drop moment of

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm trying to say is sometimes God will tell

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<v Speaker 2>you to do something and you should do it. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>your intuition will tell you to do something and you

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<v Speaker 2>should do it. The only thing you shouldn't do is

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<v Speaker 2>attribute that to God.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, there you go.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe there is something in your heart that is being

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<v Speaker 2>drawn to Hawaii and you can't explain it. And you

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<v Speaker 2>do have the means to go there.

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<v Speaker 1>God bless you. And so you do.

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<v Speaker 2>God did not call you to go to Hawaii, but

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<v Speaker 2>your intuition knew that you needed something there. You needed

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<v Speaker 2>the fresh air. You needed the rejuvenation. You needed the ocean.

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<v Speaker 2>Something there, your body needed. And that's what I have

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<v Speaker 2>learned to strip intuition down to. It's your body finding

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<v Speaker 2>nonverbal ways to communicate with you what it needs, or

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<v Speaker 2>your subconscious finding nonverbal ways to communicate with you. Your

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<v Speaker 2>intuition is not like a terrible, corrupt thing to be

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<v Speaker 2>afraid of.

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<v Speaker 1>Your intuition.

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<v Speaker 2>is really, really, really smart. It's not as smart as God,

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<v Speaker 2>but it is really smart. And so I think we've

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<v Speaker 2>been taught as Christians to, okay, listen to God in

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<v Speaker 2>the Bible, listen to God in the Holy Spirit, listen

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<v Speaker 2>to God through your pastor and teachers and Bible teachers,

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<v Speaker 2>and everything else must be wrong. And that leaves out

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<v Speaker 2>this entire, okay, A, we've got common sense. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>need to read in the Bible or to have the

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<v Speaker 2>Holy Spirit tell me, that I shouldn't go outside at

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<v Speaker 2>10 below without proper winter gear, right? That's just me

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<v Speaker 2>using my brain. I don't stop and pray and ask

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<v Speaker 2>God if it's in his will that I wear a

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<v Speaker 2>coat because I believe that God has given me the

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<v Speaker 2>gift of common sense. And so I wear a coat

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<v Speaker 2>when it's 10 below. In the same way, God has

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<v Speaker 2>given us in two differing volumes an intuition that will

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<v Speaker 2>speak to us, but it is still so different than

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<v Speaker 2>the Holy Spirit. So for example, I think one thing

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<v Speaker 2>that a woman's intuition was designed to do is to

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<v Speaker 2>tell you when you are in an unsafe situation or

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<v Speaker 2>with an unsafe person. We have not had the gift

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<v Speaker 2>of being extremely muscular and dominant. And so God has

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<v Speaker 2>given us the extra gift of being able to read

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<v Speaker 2>people well and to know to differing degrees of accuracy

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<v Speaker 2>and never to 100% accuracy if we are with somebody

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<v Speaker 2>who is unsafe. Here is the extremely tragic version of

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<v Speaker 2>how bad it is when a well-meaning Christian believes that

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<v Speaker 2>intuition and Holy Spirit are exactly the same thing. In

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<v Speaker 2>this scenario, the woman is walking down the road and

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<v Speaker 2>just has a bad feeling. Because her intuition that was

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<v Speaker 2>given to her by God is telling her that something

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<v Speaker 2>is dangerous. But this woman, A, has not been told

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<v Speaker 2>to trust her intuition. And B, she has been told

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<v Speaker 2>that the only extrasensory information that she gets is the

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<v Speaker 2>Holy Spirit. So she interprets it as God told me

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<v Speaker 2>to leave and I didn't. And then let's make it

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<v Speaker 2>terribly tragic that she gets mugged. The woman with the

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<v Speaker 2>wrong understanding of the distinction between the Holy Spirit and

0:21:41.750 --> 0:21:46.169
<v Speaker 2>her intuition can very easily say, God told me to

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<v Speaker 2>leave and I didn't, so I was punished. Or even,

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<v Speaker 2>God told me to leave and I didn't, so God

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<v Speaker 2>punished me. And that is so, so wrong. You did

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<v Speaker 2>not sin against God by ignoring your intuition. You, I

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<v Speaker 2>will submit, were sinned against by the world that forced

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<v Speaker 2>you to ignore your intuition. And God was up here,

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<v Speaker 2>like morality was not a part of it, right? It wasn't,

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<v Speaker 2>am I sinning or am I not? It's, am I

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<v Speaker 2>trusting my intuition or am I not? That's why it

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<v Speaker 2>almost sounds like I'm advocating for a less spiritually pure

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<v Speaker 2>way of looking at ourselves. But I hope people see

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<v Speaker 2>Like the danger of enmeshing your intuition in God and A,

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<v Speaker 2>how prideful that can be, but also how devastating that is.

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<v Speaker 2>If then when you ignore your intuition and something bad happens,

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<v Speaker 2>then you take it as God punishing you because you've sinned.

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<v Speaker 1>That's tragic.

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<v Speaker 2>It is.

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<v Speaker 1>So my husband and I, we're celebrating our 27th anniversary

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<v Speaker 1>this year in a few days. And we went to

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<v Speaker 1>dinner last week to celebrate. And we kind of went

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<v Speaker 1>through during the dinner, we kind of went through the

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<v Speaker 1>eras of our last, of our 27 years and kind

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<v Speaker 1>of just kind of like the whole dinner, we're just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of going through these different eras and talking about

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<v Speaker 1>them and what we got out of them, what were

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<v Speaker 1>the good things, the bad things, the in-between. And it

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<v Speaker 1>reminded me of just before moving to Alaska. We had

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<v Speaker 1>lived in Arizona. And at the time, we were really

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<v Speaker 1>happy there. Like we were very plugged into our church.

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<v Speaker 1>Looking back, I would say it was the place where

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<v Speaker 1>at least my husband had the best friends of almost

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<v Speaker 1>anywhere we've lived other than maybe like our college friends

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<v Speaker 1>back in Virginia. Because for men, it's kind of difficult,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, to make friends. I would say he had

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<v Speaker 1>the most friends, not necessarily, you know, that he didn't

0:24:00.390 --> 0:24:04.129
<v Speaker 1>have good friends other places. But anyway, I was involved

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<v Speaker 1>in children's ministry. He was involved in doing sound for

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<v Speaker 1>the church. We were part of this like church that

0:24:10.590 --> 0:24:13.899
<v Speaker 1>was mobile. So every Sunday we had to get there early,

0:24:14.040 --> 0:24:16.939
<v Speaker 1>set up everything. I mean, I was involved with music.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just, it was the most involved. I'd say

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<v Speaker 1>that we have been at a church in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>time spent serving and being with people in the church.

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<v Speaker 1>So Anyway, everything seemed like it was good. And then

0:24:30.420 --> 0:24:33.780
<v Speaker 1>he was given this opportunity to go to Alaska. The

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<v Speaker 1>first time, we said no. It didn't seem like the

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<v Speaker 1>right timing. But then that opportunity came up again. And

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<v Speaker 1>we started wondering, is this God giving us this opportunity?

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<v Speaker 1>My husband felt very strongly that he was supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>be going. And.

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<v Speaker 1>But not necessarily like, oh, God is calling me here.

0:24:55.960 --> 0:24:58.439
<v Speaker 1>It was just he really wanted a change of scenery

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<v Speaker 1>at that point and thought it was the right thing

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<v Speaker 1>to do. So we're just kind of doing this discernment

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<v Speaker 1>process and, you know, knowing that we're going to do

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<v Speaker 1>it imperfectly because we're not going to hear from God 100%.

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<v Speaker 1>But I just remember asking God, is he wanting to

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<v Speaker 1>do this for the wrong reasons? And I came to

0:25:17.540 --> 0:25:21.480
<v Speaker 1>the passage in, it was about Samson and how.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope I don't get it wrong because I haven't

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<v Speaker 1>reviewed it recently.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember this story.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like he had this idea that he wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>go after this Philistine woman. He was forbidden to marry

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<v Speaker 1>a Philistine woman. And I think he basically was... Drawn

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<v Speaker 1>to her. And I don't know. Anyway, whatever the case.

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<v Speaker 2>His parents were worried.

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<v Speaker 1>His parents were worried. That's right.

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<v Speaker 2>Like the narrator was like, and they didn't know that

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<v Speaker 2>this was part of God's plan.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right. And so.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>They didn't know. And it's like, who are we to

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<v Speaker 1>think that God won't even use? And I think this

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<v Speaker 1>was in the Bible. Like, who are you to think

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<v Speaker 1>that God won't even use just the regular, like carnal

0:26:04.630 --> 0:26:08.390
<v Speaker 1>desires of a person, their wishes, their wants? to bring

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<v Speaker 1>about his plan. And so I just remember reading that

0:26:11.230 --> 0:26:14.230
<v Speaker 1>and thinking, okay, like, all right. So even if, which

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying that it was not a God ordained thing,

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<v Speaker 1>but even if he's not seeking God about this, God's like,

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<v Speaker 1>who's to say I'm not going to move your family

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<v Speaker 1>where you're supposed to be one way or another. And

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<v Speaker 1>so that gave me this idea of, okay, maybe. And

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<v Speaker 1>then I just went to God directly and I just thought,

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<v Speaker 1>please give me confirmation. And so I just remember reading

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<v Speaker 1>about the transfiguration and Jesus takes a couple of the

0:26:38.510 --> 0:26:42.710
<v Speaker 1>disciples up and Moses and Elijah are there and everyone's

0:26:42.790 --> 0:26:45.310
<v Speaker 1>so happy. They're like, wow, let's just make a tent

0:26:45.350 --> 0:26:47.750
<v Speaker 1>and stay here because it feels good to be here.

0:26:48.630 --> 0:26:50.660
<v Speaker 1>And Jesus was like, nope, you got to go back.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got work to do somewhere else. Even though this

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<v Speaker 1>is a great place and a holy place and things

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<v Speaker 1>are really good here, I have other things for you

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<v Speaker 1>right now. And I read that and not everybody would

0:27:01.820 --> 0:27:03.369
<v Speaker 1>read it and come away with the same thing, but

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<v Speaker 1>I really felt the Holy Spirit just nudging me like,

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<v Speaker 1>this is for you. to understand that you're in a

0:27:09.210 --> 0:27:11.550
<v Speaker 1>good place, but I got other things. So go down

0:27:11.570 --> 0:27:15.270
<v Speaker 1>the mountain and keep going. There's more for you somewhere else.

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<v Speaker 1>And we ended up in Alaska. This podcast would never happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Our friendship would not have happened because you lived in Alaska.

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<v Speaker 1>And any number of things wouldn't have happened. So all

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<v Speaker 1>of that to say that I feel like a very

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<v Speaker 1>safe thing to do when you think you might be

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<v Speaker 1>hearing from God, but you're not sure, is just keep

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<v Speaker 1>asking him for wisdom. And again, another scripture is James 1.5.

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<v Speaker 1>If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God,

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<v Speaker 1>it shall be given to him. And it might be

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<v Speaker 1>that if you're not sure of yourself, but you're sure

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<v Speaker 1>of God, you might need to ask a few times.

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<v Speaker 1>But I just truly believe if we just keep asking

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<v Speaker 1>and pursuing and being open to God's showing us through scripture,

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<v Speaker 1>through sermons, through people, through circumstances, I really believe that

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<v Speaker 1>we will eventually receive be able to discern like, is

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<v Speaker 1>it really God or is it not? Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I just want to add the reminder that

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes it's not going to be God, but it's still

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<v Speaker 2>going to be a nudging that makes sense for you

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<v Speaker 2>to listen to.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah. Good point.

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<v Speaker 2>As Christians and as women, we really have had a

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<v Speaker 2>disservice thrust upon us to not learn how to trust

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<v Speaker 2>and honor and listen to our intuition. We're We're taught

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<v Speaker 2>to suppress it. We're taught that, well, since the heart

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<v Speaker 2>is deceitful above all things, then anything that I might

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<v Speaker 2>think or want must necessarily be my sin nature. And,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, there's so much that God has put inside

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<v Speaker 2>us by design that doesn't have to be as complicated

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<v Speaker 2>or as afraid of being tarnished by sin as we

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<v Speaker 2>make it. Like, sometimes we're hungry and that's a sign

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<v Speaker 2>that we should eat.

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<v Speaker 1>So we do.

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<v Speaker 2>And sometimes we're hungry and we're in the middle of

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<v Speaker 2>something and there's no food. So we don't like you

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<v Speaker 2>haven't sinned one way or the other, but the hunger

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<v Speaker 2>is still in most cases, right? Like, you know, relationships

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<v Speaker 2>with food can get enmeshed in, in things of the flesh.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you're not in a situation like that, like

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<v Speaker 2>hunger is just hunger. It doesn't have to be oh God,

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<v Speaker 2>should I eat this piece of pizza or not? Like

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<v Speaker 2>I really need, because I want to do it. But

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<v Speaker 2>if I want to do it, then it must not

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<v Speaker 2>be good for me. And I don't want to make

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<v Speaker 2>you mad. Like we have so much freedom in Christ.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that if I wanted to just like become

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<v Speaker 2>grandmother to the world and like impart grandmotherly advice to

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<v Speaker 2>the world, it would be like, things are okay. Like

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<v Speaker 2>God is not as mad about every small choice you

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<v Speaker 2>make as you might be afraid he is. Like it

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<v Speaker 2>would be, imagine how sad it would be to like,

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<v Speaker 2>you take your kid into this beautiful playroom, like just

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<v Speaker 2>the playroom of their dreams. And they come to you

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<v Speaker 2>with every, like, mommy, is it okay if I play

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<v Speaker 2>with this one now? Or will that make you mad? Like, mommy,

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<v Speaker 2>are you sad if I play with this toy? Like,

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<v Speaker 2>could I be done playing with this toy now? Or

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<v Speaker 2>does that hurt your feelings? That would be so sad

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<v Speaker 2>for a mom. And I feel like sometimes that's how

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<v Speaker 2>we treat God with the gifts he's given us.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So there's a book, there's a popular book out

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<v Speaker 1>by John Burke and it's called Imagine Heaven. And he

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<v Speaker 1>has a podcast too. And I would say, absolutely take

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<v Speaker 1>it with a grain of salt because he's a very

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<v Speaker 1>biblically based person. He interviews people who have had near

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<v Speaker 1>death experiences who are Christians. Some of them are not, but, um,

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<v Speaker 1>But he talks to them about their experiences. And his

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<v Speaker 1>goal as a pastor and as a Christian is not

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<v Speaker 1>to take everything. It's to find out everything, find common threads,

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<v Speaker 1>find out if they're biblical, and just talk about it.

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<v Speaker 1>And the idea is to equip believers with the not

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<v Speaker 1>to take someone's testimony about their alleged, whether it's true

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<v Speaker 1>or false, near-death experience as gospel, but to allow us

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<v Speaker 1>to take these stories and be able to imagine heaven

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<v Speaker 1>more fully and more biblically. So anyway, my point is,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the things that in his interviews that keeps

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<v Speaker 1>coming up, and whether it's true or not, I believe

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<v Speaker 1>it's biblical, is that their experience with God and with

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<v Speaker 1>Jesus in their experiences tend to be that they are

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<v Speaker 1>so full of joy and laughter and they're whimsical. They're loving,

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<v Speaker 1>but fun. And I'm not saying that there's not, there

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<v Speaker 1>aren't wrathful, judgmental aspects to God. And I'm not saying

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<v Speaker 1>that these experiences mean that's truly who God is, because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to, you know, that's extra biblical. But

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<v Speaker 1>in the Bible, if you really do read it, and

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's just so much love. There's so much,

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<v Speaker 1>when you hear about the parables that Jesus uses to

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<v Speaker 1>describe God, like the prodigal son, you know, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>he's joyful. He's loving. And I just feel like we

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<v Speaker 1>get so hung up on the God with the ruler

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<v Speaker 1>wrapping your knuckles when you've done something wrong that as Christians,

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<v Speaker 1>we forget some of the whimsicality and the joy and

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<v Speaker 1>the laughter that's, you know, reflected in us. What are

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<v Speaker 1>the things that we love about humanity? And we're made

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<v Speaker 1>in his image and we love to laugh. We love joy.

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<v Speaker 1>Those are things that fulfilling to us. So I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I just know that a wrong understanding of God has

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<v Speaker 1>been my pitfall, my downfall in a lot of my

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<v Speaker 1>problems as a Christian. And I just feel like the

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<v Speaker 1>more I look to who God is, it just helps

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<v Speaker 1>me to live my life, to enhance my prayer life,

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<v Speaker 1>enhance my relationship with God more when I understand more

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<v Speaker 1>who He is. I don't know. Maybe we'll cut that

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<v Speaker 1>whole thing out.

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<v Speaker 2>No, that made a lot of sense. Yeah. Well, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't have a formal blessing ready, but I do hope

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<v Speaker 2>and pray that everybody listening learns to trust the gift

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<v Speaker 2>of intuition that God has given you and that you

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<v Speaker 2>are able to hear the voice of God when he

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<v Speaker 2>is trying to communicate with you. And my prayer is

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<v Speaker 2>that may we all have even greater ability to discern

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<v Speaker 2>which is which and Just as a reminder to drive

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<v Speaker 2>it home, that doesn't mean your intuition shouldn't be listened to.

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<v Speaker 2>It just shouldn't be attributed to the Lord. Amen.

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