WEBVTT - Jesus Calling Scripture Series: Understanding the Trinity with Timothy Jones

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<v Speaker 1>The Early Church spoke of the Trinity not merely as doctrine,

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<v Speaker 1>but as something that could take a lifetime of exploring

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<v Speaker 1>and pondering and could deepen and enrich our worship in

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<v Speaker 1>wonderful ways.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome to a special scripture focused bonus episode of the

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<v Speaker 3>Jesus Calling Podcast, where we think about the concept of

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<v Speaker 3>the Trinity, the Father, and the Holy Spirit and what

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<v Speaker 3>their presence and purpose means to each of our individual lives. Pastor,

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<v Speaker 3>author and speaker Timothy Jones helps us contemplate this relational

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<v Speaker 3>view and how the communing of God, Jesus and the

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<v Speaker 3>Holy Spirit brings a new level of intimacy and belovedness

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<v Speaker 3>to each of us.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Timothy Jones. I'm a pastor and author and speaker

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<v Speaker 1>and retreat leader. I live near Nashville, and I love

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<v Speaker 1>to write and teach. One of the things that gives

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<v Speaker 1>me joy is seeing people grow closer in their relationship

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<v Speaker 1>to God. And I've just in fact, spent the last

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<v Speaker 1>couple of years exploring and writing about how God comes

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<v Speaker 1>close to us in the Trinity. While some of us

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<v Speaker 1>find that ancient belief to be intimidating or confusing, I

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<v Speaker 1>found that knowing God as Father's son and Spirit warms

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<v Speaker 1>our view of God. There's a real tenderness here, and

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<v Speaker 1>that surprises some people. I see in that three personed

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<v Speaker 1>portrait of God a wonderful invitation to know all three

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<v Speaker 1>in more intimate ways, to realize how God comes close

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<v Speaker 1>to give us help even for our everyday life. The

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<v Speaker 1>idea of a highly relational God goes back to the

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<v Speaker 1>very beginning. In Genesis, the first book of the Bible,

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<v Speaker 1>we hear God say, let us make humankind in our image,

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<v Speaker 1>and for centuries scholars have puzzled over that moment when

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<v Speaker 1>God said, let us make people in our image. It's plural.

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<v Speaker 1>That seems a little odd when we profess belief in

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<v Speaker 1>one God. But I see a hint here, a glimmer

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<v Speaker 1>of the trinity. There's one God, and yet there's so

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<v Speaker 1>much richness in that oneness suggested in that odd little

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<v Speaker 1>quirk of grammar. Let us make, I think shows us

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<v Speaker 1>that there's a blessed, wonderful complexity in God's own being

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<v Speaker 1>in nature. For from before time began. This is telling

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<v Speaker 1>us there was conversation. There was already a communion, a

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<v Speaker 1>community of Father, Son and Holy Spirit. They've always commune.

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<v Speaker 1>That kind of boggles the mind, I know, to think

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<v Speaker 1>that eternity past grims with relationship, before humankind even appeared

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<v Speaker 1>on the scene. God already was busy relating from before time,

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<v Speaker 1>and it makes sense that that God, already full of

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<v Speaker 1>love and communing, would create to create befits, a triune

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<v Speaker 1>being who overflows with love and life. As the creation's

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<v Speaker 1>story unfolds, we see this communal aspect in action. We

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<v Speaker 1>see how, for example, a wind, the breath of God,

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<v Speaker 1>the Spirit, as Genesis tells us, moved over the face

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<v Speaker 1>of the unformed waters. This was not something flighty even

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<v Speaker 1>in these primordial beginnings. The spirit didn't just kind of

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<v Speaker 1>hang around or hover. It brooded, as some say that

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<v Speaker 1>word could be translated. It moved with tender care, like

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<v Speaker 1>a bird minding its eggs or hatchlings. So order and

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<v Speaker 1>beauty grow out of the Spirit's active participation. And Jesus

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<v Speaker 1>was there too. Again, God said, let us make he

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<v Speaker 1>was there. Jesus was, as John would later say in

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<v Speaker 1>his Gospel, he was there the word of God, and

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<v Speaker 1>God's word had a hand in calling forth, in speaking

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<v Speaker 1>forth the world. So I like to think of it

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<v Speaker 1>like this. If you picture an artist, how an artist

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<v Speaker 1>can fashion something wonderful out of marble or clay or

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<v Speaker 1>oil paints. Consider all the more Jesus Vincent van Go

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<v Speaker 1>with the artist, pained though he was by despair at

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<v Speaker 1>times in his life, saw Jesus as the supreme artist.

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<v Speaker 1>He was, and he was with God the Father and

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<v Speaker 1>God the Spirit at the very creation of the world.

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<v Speaker 3>Stay tuned for more with Timothy Jones after a brief message.

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<v Speaker 1>Throughout the Gospels, Jesus speaks of the Father with words

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<v Speaker 1>of profound closeness. I and the Father are one, he said,

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<v Speaker 1>The Father loves the Son. I just think it's amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's almost jarring, how intimate that all seems. But that

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<v Speaker 1>says to me that at the living center of our faith,

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<v Speaker 1>God is not some aloof distant being. This is not

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<v Speaker 1>some deity who can't understand and what it means to

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<v Speaker 1>be an intimate relationship. This is not a being who

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<v Speaker 1>is impossible to know, or experience or have a conversation with.

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<v Speaker 1>We see that in this picture as God, the Father

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<v Speaker 1>and Jesus the Son relate and converse. They've been living

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<v Speaker 1>in joyous communion throughout eternity. There's communion among the Father,

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<v Speaker 1>the Son, the Holy Spirit. And he has revealed. God

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<v Speaker 1>has revealed this picture to us to give us hope.

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<v Speaker 1>We wouldn't have thunked up ourselves. But because God has

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<v Speaker 1>shown us this picture, we glimpse a delight that grows

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<v Speaker 1>out of a communion that's already at play between the

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<v Speaker 1>three persons of the Trinity. And I would say, if

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<v Speaker 1>you think that's a stretch, remember how at jesus Baptism

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<v Speaker 1>we see the son in the water, the spirit descending,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Father's voice declaring, you are my beloved son.

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<v Speaker 1>They're used to having conversations. They always have, they always will,

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<v Speaker 1>and that should encourage us. I love how in John

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<v Speaker 1>chapters fourteen through seventeen, Jesus speaks repeatedly about the shared

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<v Speaker 1>life he has with God and our invitation into it.

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<v Speaker 1>In John fourteen twenty he says, on that day you

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<v Speaker 1>will know that I am in my Father and you

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<v Speaker 1>and me and I in you. And in John fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>four he says, abide in me and I in you.

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<v Speaker 1>And that word abide is a rich word. It has

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<v Speaker 1>to do with not just being next to somebody, but

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<v Speaker 1>sharing their life, being in communion. This belief in the Trinity,

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<v Speaker 1>And in light of passages like these in John, lets

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<v Speaker 1>us talk about God in family like words, with intimate names,

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<v Speaker 1>terms of affection. Sometimes when people think about the Trinity,

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<v Speaker 1>they get kind of intimidated by all of the philosophical

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<v Speaker 1>speculation that surrounds it. But when you think about it,

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<v Speaker 1>what is more appealing or inviting than words like father, son,

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<v Speaker 1>living spirit. And the amazing thing to me is we're

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<v Speaker 1>invited into that loving kind fellowship. And I think this

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<v Speaker 1>is really important right now. We are in a cultural

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<v Speaker 1>moment defined by epic even epidemic lonelines. There are fractured

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<v Speaker 1>relationships we experience. Who of us hasn't recently had a

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<v Speaker 1>polarizing conversation, And I think in the midst of all

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<v Speaker 1>of this, all the more we're searching for a more

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<v Speaker 1>lasting love, something that's reliable, sturdy, dependable, and abundant. This

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<v Speaker 1>is what I see in this picture of the Trinity.

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<v Speaker 1>The Trinity because of all of this relational depth, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not intimidating as much as it is life changing. We compete,

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<v Speaker 1>we strive. Sometimes when we're online, we're worried about how

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<v Speaker 1>we present ourselves or if we're going to get that

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<v Speaker 1>coveted like from somebody visiting our sites. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>that leaves us searching for a deeper connection, not to

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<v Speaker 1>know that we're liked, but to know that we're beloved.

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<v Speaker 1>To discover also, then in the midst of that that

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<v Speaker 1>human tenderness alone will not cannot satisfy our deepest longings,

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<v Speaker 1>our deepest selves. So what I'm seeing here can heighten

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<v Speaker 1>our anticipation for a life with God, for a relationally

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<v Speaker 1>richer life, and we may translate that into our relationship

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<v Speaker 1>with God feeling like, well, I've somehow got to impress God,

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<v Speaker 1>I've got to earn his favor, and that just doesn't work.

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<v Speaker 1>What we most want to know and experience is found

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<v Speaker 1>in that experience of being fully beloved, knowing we're loved,

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<v Speaker 1>not just tolerated, but cherished. Here's another thing that's important

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<v Speaker 1>to me in this We get here vivid pictures that

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<v Speaker 1>God knows and cares about the most heartbreaking questions of

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<v Speaker 1>everyday existence. Jesus himself, of course suffered, he became a

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<v Speaker 1>human person, he was rejected, he died a painful death.

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<v Speaker 1>And we see in that segment, or in that chapter

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<v Speaker 1>of the Story of the Trinity, how God cares about

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<v Speaker 1>our most daily worries, about the hardest things that happened

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<v Speaker 1>to us, cares about whether we're loved and valued. The

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<v Speaker 1>answer we see and witness in the Trinity is a

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<v Speaker 1>three word sentence, you are loved. The early Church spoke

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<v Speaker 1>of the Trinity, not merely as doctrine, but as something

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<v Speaker 1>that could take a lifetime of exploring and pondering and

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<v Speaker 1>could deepen and enrich our worship in wonderful ways. There's

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<v Speaker 1>mystery here, but not mystery that puts us off, but

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<v Speaker 1>rather something intriguing that invites us to draw closer to

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<v Speaker 1>experience more of that relational richness of God. And I

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<v Speaker 1>have found that picture sometimes drawing me into prayer. So

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes I will address a prayer to the Father, sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>to Jesus, like Jesus at Mercy. Sometimes to the Spirit.

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<v Speaker 1>I will pray, Come, Holy Spirit. That's a genuinely biblical prayer.

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<v Speaker 1>But often the Trinity, the Three, the fellowship of the Three,

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<v Speaker 1>is the bigger backdrop to all that I ask, or

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<v Speaker 1>say or pray. And I realize in those moments that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm addressing a God who is already actively relating and communing.

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<v Speaker 1>I become part of that conversation. That delight and that

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<v Speaker 1>picture actually makes me want to pray more because there

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<v Speaker 1>is an invitation that's hinted at when we look at

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<v Speaker 1>that picture of God, an invitation to join the fellowship

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<v Speaker 1>God already enjoys. God likes to hear us talk. We

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<v Speaker 1>can pray freely. Nothing is too little or an insignificant

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<v Speaker 1>to bring to God. Nothing is too big to bring

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<v Speaker 1>to God. And I believe God will communicate with us.

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<v Speaker 1>Jesus will turn toward us a tender face. Jesus listens.

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<v Speaker 1>He bends his ear close to our lips. This is

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<v Speaker 1>about grace, isn't it? Grace through and through this promise.

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<v Speaker 1>The conviction that we are fully beloved isn't something we

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<v Speaker 1>claim through our effort. His nearness is not a standing

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<v Speaker 1>we earn or somehow achieve. It's a gift we receive.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's where daily attentiveness comes in. Jesus listens. April sixteen,

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<v Speaker 1>My loving Lord, thank you for loving me regardless of

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<v Speaker 1>how well I'm performing. Sometimes I feel uneasy, questioning whether

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing enough to be worthy of your love. But

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<v Speaker 1>I realize that, no matter how exemplary my behavior may be,

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<v Speaker 1>the answer to that question will always be known. You've

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<v Speaker 1>been showing me that my performance and your love are

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<v Speaker 1>completely different issues. You have loved me with an everlasting

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<v Speaker 1>love that flows outward from eternity without limit or conditions.

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<v Speaker 1>You have clothed me in your robe of righteousness and

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<v Speaker 1>This is an eternal transaction. Nothing and no one can

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<v Speaker 1>reverse it. This means that my successes and failures have

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<v Speaker 1>no bearing on your love for me. I've discovered that

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<v Speaker 1>even my ability to evaluate how well I'm doing is flawed.

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<v Speaker 1>My limited human perspective in the condition of my body

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<v Speaker 1>with its mer curial variations, distort my assessment of my behavior. Lord,

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<v Speaker 1>I bring my performance anxiety to you, and I ask

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<v Speaker 1>you to replace it with your unfailing love. Help me

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<v Speaker 1>to stay aware of your loving presence with me in

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<v Speaker 1>everything I do. Please direct my steps as I go

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<v Speaker 1>through this day in your precious name, Jesus am In.

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