1 00:00:03,130 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: Life Audio. What does it mean to be a faithful steward? 2 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:09,580 Speaker 1: What does it look like to surrender everything to the Lord? 3 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 1: What does it look like to wait and believe in 4 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:15,620 Speaker 1: his promises, even if you're wrestling and struggling with doubt today? 5 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:24,070 Speaker 1: We talk about all of this and more in today's episode. Hello, hello, hello, 6 00:00:24,190 --> 00:00:26,750 Speaker 1: ladies and gents, and welcome to this week's episode of 7 00:00:26,790 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 1: the And I have a friend joining me today and 8 00:00:32,979 --> 00:00:35,470 Speaker 1: I'm so excited to have her on because it is 9 00:00:35,530 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 1: about time. Honestly, I know so many awesome just Christian creatives, 10 00:00:40,420 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 1: Christian women, Christian authors, Christian fill in the blank. And 11 00:00:44,850 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: Janessa is one of them. We met a while ago, 12 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 1: like back in 2020 at a retreat in Tyler, Texas. Right. 13 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:54,150 Speaker 1: It was like right before the whole world. 14 00:00:54,890 --> 00:00:57,270 Speaker 2: Oh, my gosh. Right before the world shut down. 15 00:00:57,290 --> 00:01:00,230 Speaker 1: Yeah. Before all the chaos, before we went through the 16 00:01:00,250 --> 00:01:02,300 Speaker 1: little time loop and we're like, what timeline are we 17 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:04,500 Speaker 1: in right now? You know? But she and I go 18 00:01:04,700 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 1: way back and it's just been really encouraging to see 19 00:01:07,190 --> 00:01:11,110 Speaker 1: her as a mom, as a creative. You've probably seen 20 00:01:11,330 --> 00:01:14,150 Speaker 1: her artwork somewhere. You might even have been gifted some 21 00:01:14,190 --> 00:01:18,069 Speaker 1: of her merch or whatever. Like she's just so multifaceted 22 00:01:18,090 --> 00:01:20,930 Speaker 1: and multi-talented. And I'm excited that now one of the 23 00:01:20,970 --> 00:01:24,190 Speaker 1: things that's on the roster of what she's created is 24 00:01:24,209 --> 00:01:26,850 Speaker 1: a book. And her book that is coming out here 25 00:01:26,910 --> 00:01:29,050 Speaker 1: in a few weeks that you can pre-order is called 26 00:01:29,510 --> 00:01:33,660 Speaker 1: Moving With God. nine keys to get unstuck and step 27 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:38,320 Speaker 1: boldly into his promises for your life. I'm so excited 28 00:01:38,340 --> 00:01:41,250 Speaker 1: for this. But before we dive into that, Janessa, I 29 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:43,190 Speaker 1: know I kind of gave like a brief introduction about 30 00:01:43,230 --> 00:01:45,210 Speaker 1: who you are and what you do, but care to 31 00:01:45,310 --> 00:01:47,910 Speaker 1: elaborate on anything, care to add any context to the 32 00:01:47,930 --> 00:01:48,990 Speaker 1: people who don't know who you are? 33 00:01:49,590 --> 00:01:52,050 Speaker 2: Yeah. So I am, I like to start off by 34 00:01:52,070 --> 00:01:53,810 Speaker 2: saying I'm a Canadian living in America. 35 00:01:53,830 --> 00:01:55,020 Speaker 1: So I'm not American. 36 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:59,740 Speaker 2: I'm from Canada, which you're married to a Canadian. So yeah, 37 00:01:59,820 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 2: from Canada, born and raised. And then I moved to 38 00:02:01,980 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 2: the United States when I was 18 to do Bible college. 39 00:02:05,100 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 2: I did that for three years. That's where my, my 40 00:02:07,180 --> 00:02:09,910 Speaker 2: husband got my green card. I'm actually trying to get 41 00:02:09,940 --> 00:02:14,389 Speaker 2: my citizenship right now, but it's a long wait. I'm like, 42 00:02:14,450 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 2: why didn't I do this five years ago? Yeah. Because 43 00:02:17,340 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 2: everyone's trying to get their citizenship now. Yes. But that's 44 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 2: all good. I'm like, Lord, in your timing, but why 45 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 2: did I do this earlier? I have three kids. I 46 00:02:26,180 --> 00:02:30,489 Speaker 2: have a six-year-old, a two-year-old, and a six-month-old. So my 47 00:02:30,530 --> 00:02:33,870 Speaker 2: house is busy and I love it. Motherhood is so beautiful. 48 00:02:34,350 --> 00:02:37,290 Speaker 2: It's the most refining thing I've ever walked through. 49 00:02:37,310 --> 00:02:37,390 Speaker 1: Amen. 50 00:02:38,190 --> 00:02:40,299 Speaker 2: And I learned so much about the Lord in it. 51 00:02:40,550 --> 00:02:44,340 Speaker 2: And yeah, so this... book is really exciting because I, 52 00:02:44,450 --> 00:02:47,210 Speaker 2: I've always known I've wanted to write a book, but I, I, 53 00:02:47,370 --> 00:02:49,350 Speaker 2: it had to be the Lord. Cause there's so much 54 00:02:49,470 --> 00:02:51,350 Speaker 2: great books coming out all the time. I'm like, I 55 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 2: don't want to just write a book to write a book. 56 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:56,260 Speaker 2: So years ago I was praying in January and I'm like, Lord, 57 00:02:56,780 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 2: what am I meant to do this year? And I 58 00:02:59,620 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 2: had a dream that night, which I don't get these 59 00:03:02,220 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 2: dreams often where the Lord spoke to me. He came 60 00:03:04,940 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 2: to me in a dream. He said, Janessa, it's time 61 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 2: to write the book and start the podcast. 62 00:03:09,020 --> 00:03:09,090 Speaker 1: Hmm. 63 00:03:09,460 --> 00:03:10,940 Speaker 2: And I woke up and I'm like, all right, it's 64 00:03:10,980 --> 00:03:12,899 Speaker 2: the green light. So this book has been the labor 65 00:03:12,940 --> 00:03:15,359 Speaker 2: of love for the last few years. And yeah, I'm 66 00:03:15,380 --> 00:03:18,870 Speaker 2: really excited to launch it and share a lot of 67 00:03:18,910 --> 00:03:22,450 Speaker 2: my story and all the things that come with wanting 68 00:03:22,550 --> 00:03:25,550 Speaker 2: to move with God and walk in his promises that 69 00:03:25,570 --> 00:03:26,810 Speaker 2: he's spoken over our lives. 70 00:03:27,370 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 1: Well, I'm excited for it. I'm excited for people to 71 00:03:29,470 --> 00:03:31,220 Speaker 1: get their hands on it. I was able to get 72 00:03:31,260 --> 00:03:37,580 Speaker 1: an early copy. But the subtitle talks about getting unstuck. 73 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:41,210 Speaker 1: And I, I want to talk about that, like begin there. 74 00:03:41,710 --> 00:03:46,350 Speaker 1: Like what does being spiritually stuck actually look like? Because 75 00:03:46,690 --> 00:03:49,490 Speaker 1: sometimes we can be doing all of the right Christian 76 00:03:49,610 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 1: things and we can still feel like I'm not moving anywhere. Yeah. 77 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:56,380 Speaker 2: I think, you know, one of the things that I 78 00:03:56,420 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 2: discovered Kirby in my journey with the Lord is what 79 00:04:00,020 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 2: we define as movement and what we define as being stuck. 80 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:07,380 Speaker 2: And for a long time I thought, oh, it's the breakthrough, 81 00:04:07,540 --> 00:04:10,660 Speaker 2: answered prayers. All these things are evidence that I'm moving 82 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:13,590 Speaker 2: forward towards the things that God has spoken. But what 83 00:04:13,610 --> 00:04:17,650 Speaker 2: I've realized very quickly and through hard seasons is, you 84 00:04:17,670 --> 00:04:22,289 Speaker 2: know what? Surrender. When you surrender, that is actually moving forward. 85 00:04:22,630 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 2: When you are faithful in the little and just stewarding 86 00:04:27,100 --> 00:04:29,979 Speaker 2: the assignment that God's given you today, even if no 87 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:32,410 Speaker 2: one is seeing, even if you're hidden and And it's 88 00:04:32,510 --> 00:04:37,030 Speaker 2: so unglamorous. That is movement with God. And we have so, 89 00:04:37,550 --> 00:04:41,300 Speaker 2: you know, romanticized like getting in the promised land. It's 90 00:04:41,310 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 2: like the breakthrough and all these things. And sometimes it's 91 00:04:44,210 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 2: so the opposite. It's like, I'm just out here surrendering 92 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 2: day in and day out. And God's like, Hey, that 93 00:04:50,460 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 2: is moving with me. That is momentum in heaven. And 94 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:58,420 Speaker 2: we often think heaven and earth momentum look the same, 95 00:04:58,460 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 2: but they don't. And so, That's what I would say 96 00:05:01,380 --> 00:05:04,860 Speaker 2: to someone that's like, I feel stuck. It's like, what 97 00:05:04,900 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 2: if we reframe that? What if we begin to ask 98 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:10,820 Speaker 2: the Lord, God, not why is this happening? We start 99 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:13,370 Speaker 2: asking the Lord, God, what are you doing? Because he's 100 00:05:13,500 --> 00:05:17,030 Speaker 2: always moving. God doesn't get stuck. He's not idle. He's 101 00:05:17,610 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 2: always moving. And there's always an invitation. from him to 102 00:05:21,420 --> 00:05:23,940 Speaker 2: step into what he is doing and what he wants 103 00:05:23,990 --> 00:05:27,890 Speaker 2: to develop and do in us. That is absolutely has 104 00:05:28,190 --> 00:05:30,570 Speaker 2: everything to do with the promised land that he has 105 00:05:30,630 --> 00:05:30,990 Speaker 2: for us. 106 00:05:33,650 --> 00:05:35,790 Speaker 1: And I think that's one of my favorite keys that 107 00:05:35,810 --> 00:05:39,010 Speaker 1: you talk about in the book specifically, because that's like 108 00:05:39,070 --> 00:05:42,250 Speaker 1: something that I have been actively walking out and learning 109 00:05:42,330 --> 00:05:46,270 Speaker 1: in this season of becoming a mom, like talk about surrender, right? 110 00:05:46,370 --> 00:05:48,710 Speaker 1: Literally surrendering my life, my body. 111 00:05:48,730 --> 00:05:48,810 Speaker 2: Yeah. 112 00:05:49,450 --> 00:05:52,100 Speaker 1: My brain cells, like she took them all. Like I 113 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 1: can't think for myself at this point, right? Like I'm 114 00:05:55,100 --> 00:05:57,599 Speaker 1: just surviving on the grace of God. I would also 115 00:05:57,640 --> 00:05:59,500 Speaker 1: say coffee, but I don't drink coffee. So just the 116 00:05:59,540 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 1: grace of God. But it has been a surrender. And 117 00:06:03,350 --> 00:06:06,450 Speaker 1: I love that you frame it that way, that surrendering 118 00:06:07,029 --> 00:06:12,050 Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily mean stopping. It's a moving forward. And so 119 00:06:12,750 --> 00:06:14,780 Speaker 1: I would like to kind of linger there for a 120 00:06:14,830 --> 00:06:18,500 Speaker 1: second because I want to know, in your opinion and 121 00:06:18,540 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 1: kind of like with what you write about in the book, 122 00:06:20,730 --> 00:06:25,450 Speaker 1: what's the difference between surrendering a promise to God and 123 00:06:25,630 --> 00:06:27,850 Speaker 1: just giving up on it? Because that's a big thing 124 00:06:27,890 --> 00:06:29,830 Speaker 1: that you talk about. It's just the promises of God. 125 00:06:29,850 --> 00:06:31,850 Speaker 1: So what does it look like to surrender it versus 126 00:06:32,290 --> 00:06:35,150 Speaker 1: giving up? Because there can be, I think, confusion in 127 00:06:35,190 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 1: that area and there is distinction and you kind of 128 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:39,300 Speaker 1: define that distinction in the book. 129 00:06:39,339 --> 00:06:42,060 Speaker 2: Absolutely. Well, I'd love to share a story that kind 130 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 2: of elaborates on that a little bit. So after I 131 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:49,239 Speaker 2: had my first child, I had a season of infertility. 132 00:06:49,779 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 2: I could not get pregnant. And then in 2022, I 133 00:06:53,580 --> 00:06:56,300 Speaker 2: did get pregnant three times and I lost every single 134 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:58,989 Speaker 2: one of those babies. And it was the dark, dark 135 00:06:59,050 --> 00:07:03,150 Speaker 2: season of my life. And, but I had over and over, 136 00:07:03,210 --> 00:07:06,770 Speaker 2: the Lord spoke to me about another child and I 137 00:07:06,870 --> 00:07:09,190 Speaker 2: knew it was a girl. I had dreams. I would 138 00:07:09,210 --> 00:07:12,970 Speaker 2: have people send me messages out of nowhere, being like, hey, 139 00:07:12,990 --> 00:07:14,930 Speaker 2: this is so random. I had a dream that you 140 00:07:14,950 --> 00:07:16,610 Speaker 2: were holding a baby girl. And it was just like, 141 00:07:17,150 --> 00:07:19,350 Speaker 2: you could not doubt that this was what God had 142 00:07:19,390 --> 00:07:22,310 Speaker 2: for me. And I had just scriptures that would confirm it. 143 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:26,100 Speaker 2: And so I was like, this is coming. And then, 144 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:30,060 Speaker 2: but I knew, you know, just walking with the Lord, like, okay, 145 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 2: there is, I do need to surrender this promise. And 146 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 2: so I felt like I was doing that all the time. 147 00:07:34,170 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 2: I felt like I was constantly, coming before the Lord 148 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 2: being like, God, I surrender, like, you're enough, you know? 149 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 2: And then one day at a women's conference, I was 150 00:07:42,540 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 2: sitting on that cold concrete floor, and I remember just 151 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:48,340 Speaker 2: worshiping the Lord, and I felt the Holy Spirit come 152 00:07:48,380 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 2: to me. He said, Janessa, will you surrender this promise? 153 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:55,460 Speaker 2: And I was kind of like, Lord, I have been 154 00:07:55,520 --> 00:08:00,140 Speaker 2: doing this, like, every day. But this time it really 155 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:04,390 Speaker 2: felt different. It was the kind of ask of God. 156 00:08:04,870 --> 00:08:08,090 Speaker 2: will you surrender this as if it would never happen? 157 00:08:10,310 --> 00:08:13,290 Speaker 2: And I just began to weep. And I wept on 158 00:08:13,310 --> 00:08:16,130 Speaker 2: that floor for 30 minutes because I was like, I 159 00:08:16,150 --> 00:08:19,630 Speaker 2: don't know. I wrestled. And it's okay to wrestle. It's 160 00:08:19,690 --> 00:08:22,390 Speaker 2: okay to be in those tension moments of like, I 161 00:08:22,410 --> 00:08:26,450 Speaker 2: don't know. And I finally came to this breaking point 162 00:08:26,510 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 2: of like, God, if I only have one child, I 163 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:33,679 Speaker 2: am so thankful. And you are enough. I, it was 164 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 2: like the true surrender. And I call that my Abraham 165 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:39,679 Speaker 2: Isaac moment where I felt like that was my climb 166 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 2: up that mountain, that three day climb and laid it 167 00:08:42,990 --> 00:08:46,170 Speaker 2: on the altar. And I just surrendered. I really truly 168 00:08:46,210 --> 00:08:49,630 Speaker 2: came to that breaking point. And, and so, you know, 169 00:08:49,650 --> 00:08:53,170 Speaker 2: that was when I look back at that moment, you know, 170 00:08:53,290 --> 00:08:56,390 Speaker 2: I didn't walk away from that feeling hopeless. It wasn't 171 00:08:56,470 --> 00:09:00,610 Speaker 2: this hopeless surrender. And that's the difference is even Abraham, 172 00:09:00,650 --> 00:09:05,059 Speaker 2: we see that when he when he put Isaac on 173 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 2: the altar on that rock to sacrifice, you know, he, 174 00:09:08,820 --> 00:09:13,130 Speaker 2: it even says later in Hebrews 11 that he considered 175 00:09:13,670 --> 00:09:17,430 Speaker 2: that God could raise him from the dead. Like, so 176 00:09:17,630 --> 00:09:21,250 Speaker 2: to me, that says that Abraham still had hope. He 177 00:09:21,309 --> 00:09:23,969 Speaker 2: still had hope, even though he was laying that promise 178 00:09:24,010 --> 00:09:27,550 Speaker 2: down and surrendering completely to the Lord. He didn't give 179 00:09:27,650 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 2: up on what God had promised him from the beginning. 180 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:32,109 Speaker 2: He didn't, think that God was going back on his word. 181 00:09:32,530 --> 00:09:34,170 Speaker 2: He just let go of how it would need it 182 00:09:34,190 --> 00:09:36,830 Speaker 2: to happen. And that of like, I think is the 183 00:09:36,850 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 2: difference is there's, um, you know, that, that hopeful surrender, 184 00:09:41,380 --> 00:09:44,580 Speaker 2: and then there's the hopeless surrender. So really it comes 185 00:09:44,620 --> 00:09:46,660 Speaker 2: down to like, when God is asking you to lay 186 00:09:46,700 --> 00:09:50,420 Speaker 2: something down, we lay it down with the, with the 187 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:54,260 Speaker 2: peace that no matter the outcome, it's going to be beautiful, 188 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:58,300 Speaker 2: but holding on to hope that God does not go 189 00:09:58,340 --> 00:10:01,479 Speaker 2: back on his word and we have to let go 190 00:10:01,500 --> 00:10:03,679 Speaker 2: of how it's going to happen, if that makes sense. 191 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:07,819 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely. And I think another thing like in your 192 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:10,849 Speaker 1: story that a lot of people will probably resonate with 193 00:10:10,990 --> 00:10:13,530 Speaker 1: is I feel like God has promised me this thing. 194 00:10:13,610 --> 00:10:16,730 Speaker 1: He's confirmed this thing to me through scripture, through other people, 195 00:10:16,750 --> 00:10:19,620 Speaker 1: through dreams, through visions, through you know, whatever means in 196 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 1: which he communicates to the person who's listening today. And 197 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 1: it hasn't happened yet. It hasn't happened in the way 198 00:10:26,950 --> 00:10:31,410 Speaker 1: that they expected or prayed for or imagined for their 199 00:10:31,450 --> 00:10:35,250 Speaker 1: life or saw it happen for somebody else. Right. What 200 00:10:35,309 --> 00:10:37,710 Speaker 1: would you say to the person who genuinely believes, you know, 201 00:10:37,750 --> 00:10:40,970 Speaker 1: God has promised me this thing, but years have passed 202 00:10:41,050 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 1: and it still hasn't happened yet for me. 203 00:10:43,980 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, that's a hard place to be. I 204 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:49,540 Speaker 2: will first say that It's okay to feel disappointment. It's 205 00:10:49,620 --> 00:10:53,580 Speaker 2: okay to feel sad. But I say don't camp out there. 206 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:56,699 Speaker 2: We're supposed to just go through those moments of disappointment. 207 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:58,809 Speaker 2: We're not meant to live in those moments of disappointment 208 00:10:58,890 --> 00:11:04,090 Speaker 2: and sadness. Because the truth is, okay, God, all throughout scripture, 209 00:11:04,110 --> 00:11:07,270 Speaker 2: I mean, we look at Joseph. We look at David. 210 00:11:07,330 --> 00:11:10,410 Speaker 2: We look at all these heroes of the faith. None 211 00:11:10,450 --> 00:11:11,630 Speaker 2: of them had it easy. 212 00:11:11,910 --> 00:11:12,740 Speaker 1: Yep. So. 213 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:16,220 Speaker 2: Why do we think it's going to be any different 214 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:20,059 Speaker 2: for our lives? Just because we follow Christ, it does 215 00:11:20,100 --> 00:11:22,699 Speaker 2: not mean a life of easy. It does mean a 216 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 2: life of victory. It means that we will become victorious 217 00:11:25,860 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 2: in the end, but we have to let go of 218 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:31,980 Speaker 2: what that timeline looks like or else we are going 219 00:11:32,059 --> 00:11:35,900 Speaker 2: to be so frustrated. We are going to be resisting victory. 220 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 2: seasons that God actually wants us to be in. And 221 00:11:39,020 --> 00:11:40,680 Speaker 2: we're going to blame it on the devil, but really 222 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:43,850 Speaker 2: it's the Lord saying, Hey, I need to do something here. 223 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:47,430 Speaker 2: And now, because when I'm building in you, when I'm cultivating, 224 00:11:47,450 --> 00:11:51,010 Speaker 2: when I'm growing, it's, it's not just even for you, 225 00:11:51,090 --> 00:11:53,069 Speaker 2: but it's for the people that you're going to impact. 226 00:11:53,110 --> 00:11:56,100 Speaker 2: It's this thing that God has promised you is so 227 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 2: much bigger than yourself. And sometimes we get so caught 228 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:02,510 Speaker 2: in our like me mentality like oh I just want 229 00:12:02,530 --> 00:12:05,870 Speaker 2: this now because we're so self-focused sometimes and that's just 230 00:12:05,910 --> 00:12:09,030 Speaker 2: our human nature but the Lord's like what I'm doing 231 00:12:09,050 --> 00:12:12,429 Speaker 2: is so much bigger than that but allow it to 232 00:12:12,550 --> 00:12:16,250 Speaker 2: simmer allow it to happen don't I'm telling you Kirby 233 00:12:16,390 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 2: I have been in seasons where I'm fighting to get 234 00:12:18,260 --> 00:12:21,780 Speaker 2: out of the season I'm like I just I'm striving 235 00:12:21,860 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 2: I'm like oh what do I need to do to 236 00:12:23,980 --> 00:12:27,079 Speaker 2: escape the very thing that God's put me in and 237 00:12:27,300 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 2: I'm telling you you will save yourself a lot of heartache, headache, 238 00:12:31,900 --> 00:12:35,559 Speaker 2: if you just surrender to the season and just know 239 00:12:35,620 --> 00:12:39,719 Speaker 2: that God is on time. He is never late. He 240 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 2: does not delay. Like even if it feels like a delay, 241 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:46,660 Speaker 2: it is not like everything is on time and he 242 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:51,679 Speaker 2: is so good. Like I, I think about even Martha 243 00:12:51,900 --> 00:12:56,860 Speaker 2: and Mary and Lazarus, like it said that because it 244 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:00,770 Speaker 2: in the scripture, it says that because Jesus loved Mary 245 00:13:00,790 --> 00:13:04,170 Speaker 2: and Martha like he delayed it was like because of 246 00:13:04,230 --> 00:13:07,109 Speaker 2: his love and they maybe didn't see that as an 247 00:13:07,270 --> 00:13:09,740 Speaker 2: act of love but it was an act of love 248 00:13:09,820 --> 00:13:12,620 Speaker 2: because in the end we see this full circle moment 249 00:13:12,700 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 2: of God getting glory from raising their brother from the 250 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 2: dead and that moment was so much bigger than them 251 00:13:19,340 --> 00:13:22,150 Speaker 2: it was for the community around them and so we 252 00:13:22,170 --> 00:13:25,010 Speaker 2: have to trust that the timing of the Lord is 253 00:13:25,410 --> 00:13:29,610 Speaker 2: is is so on point, not just for us, but 254 00:13:29,710 --> 00:13:33,070 Speaker 2: for the people around us. Because when he moves through 255 00:13:33,130 --> 00:13:36,050 Speaker 2: us or when we begin to enter into the things 256 00:13:36,100 --> 00:13:38,860 Speaker 2: that he has prepared for us, it's going to have 257 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 2: so much bigger impact. But we have to go through 258 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:45,540 Speaker 2: all the things behind us that are so uncomfortable, but 259 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:47,500 Speaker 2: it's so worth it. 260 00:13:48,020 --> 00:13:51,089 Speaker 1: I love that you bring up the example of Martha, Mary, 261 00:13:51,130 --> 00:13:53,310 Speaker 1: and Lazarus, that story, because that is something that I 262 00:13:53,330 --> 00:13:56,929 Speaker 1: feel like I've talked about on this podcast so many times, 263 00:13:57,130 --> 00:14:01,429 Speaker 1: just because it's been so relatable to this season of life, 264 00:14:01,510 --> 00:14:04,870 Speaker 1: even I've been in. But I think with that story, 265 00:14:04,910 --> 00:14:08,210 Speaker 1: something also that's super interesting to know is that when 266 00:14:08,230 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 1: you think about Martha and Mary and their relationship to Jesus, 267 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 1: even Lazarus' relationship to Jesus, right? They they were close. 268 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 1: Like they were all very close. Like Jesus wept over 269 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 1: the loss of his friend. Like I know we can 270 00:14:19,580 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 1: joke about like, oh yeah, that's the Bible verse everybody 271 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:26,230 Speaker 1: has memorized. But it's like, no, Jesus sincerely cared about 272 00:14:26,690 --> 00:14:30,410 Speaker 1: everybody in this, in this story, in this scenario, right? 273 00:14:30,430 --> 00:14:35,090 Speaker 1: That was happening. And with Mary, it's so interesting to 274 00:14:35,130 --> 00:14:37,980 Speaker 1: me because it's like, she was the one who sat 275 00:14:38,020 --> 00:14:41,420 Speaker 1: at Jesus's feet, right? Like she was the one who, 276 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:45,970 Speaker 1: who called him rabbi, right? Like she, she had this 277 00:14:46,030 --> 00:14:49,870 Speaker 1: like awe and wonder and, and love for him in 278 00:14:50,590 --> 00:14:53,620 Speaker 1: following him. And then it's like, when this happens and 279 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:56,180 Speaker 1: she hears that Jesus walks into town, she just, she 280 00:14:56,200 --> 00:15:00,580 Speaker 1: doesn't even walk out to him. Martha does, but Mary doesn't. 281 00:15:00,860 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 1: She's like, she comes to him finally after Jesus sends 282 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:07,530 Speaker 1: Martha to go get her and bring her to him. 283 00:15:08,090 --> 00:15:11,310 Speaker 1: And she says, where were you? Like my, my brother died. 284 00:15:11,470 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 1: Where were you? Yeah. And, I think that for some 285 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:17,900 Speaker 1: of us, that might be our posture with God today, 286 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:21,950 Speaker 1: if we're completely honest, where it's like, okay, Jesus is here. 287 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:24,670 Speaker 1: Like I, I know he's doing all these things for 288 00:15:24,690 --> 00:15:27,890 Speaker 1: all these other people, but like, where were you for me? 289 00:15:28,150 --> 00:15:33,030 Speaker 1: And it can, it can create doubt. It can create unbelief. 290 00:15:33,090 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 1: And I know that's another key that you talk about 291 00:15:34,980 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 1: in your book is people navigating and moving through and 292 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 1: moving forward with Jesus through their unbelief. So Like what 293 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:46,020 Speaker 1: are some subtle ways maybe in a person's life where 294 00:15:46,180 --> 00:15:49,420 Speaker 1: unbelief can disguise itself in the life of the Christian? 295 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 1: Because I think a lot of us would say, oh, 296 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:54,980 Speaker 1: I trust God. I trust God. I know God is good. 297 00:15:55,340 --> 00:15:57,460 Speaker 1: But really we do have doubt in a lot of 298 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:00,140 Speaker 1: areas or we're struggling with unbelief in other ways that 299 00:16:00,180 --> 00:16:01,710 Speaker 1: we need to move through and work through. 300 00:16:01,730 --> 00:16:05,210 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say, I know for me, and I 301 00:16:05,250 --> 00:16:07,609 Speaker 2: think a lot of us can probably relate to this, 302 00:16:07,750 --> 00:16:10,510 Speaker 2: is I think one of the biggest indicators that we 303 00:16:10,610 --> 00:16:15,390 Speaker 2: are actually in doubt and unbelief is when we start 304 00:16:15,430 --> 00:16:20,220 Speaker 2: to complain. Complaining, if you look and study the life 305 00:16:20,250 --> 00:16:24,420 Speaker 2: of the Israelites when they got into the wilderness, literally 306 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:26,900 Speaker 2: three days or a couple days, I can't remember if 307 00:16:26,940 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 2: it's exactly three, that they saw the miracle of the 308 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:33,700 Speaker 2: Red Sea parting, which to me I would say is 309 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 2: one of the most insane miracles in scriptures to witness that. 310 00:16:38,140 --> 00:16:42,410 Speaker 2: To witness a literal parting of the sea You see 311 00:16:42,510 --> 00:16:45,590 Speaker 2: all this fish in there and you're just walking on 312 00:16:45,630 --> 00:16:47,790 Speaker 2: dry land, like crazy, running for your life and you 313 00:16:47,850 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 2: are spared, right? And literally within a few days, they 314 00:16:52,980 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 2: go back to complaining, doubt, unbelief. And it's this thing 315 00:16:59,540 --> 00:17:04,109 Speaker 2: of like complaining and it really, it's like bothered the Lord. 316 00:17:04,130 --> 00:17:09,430 Speaker 2: He's like, these people, like step back people. But honestly, 317 00:17:09,490 --> 00:17:12,410 Speaker 2: I think sometimes like, Like that is one of the 318 00:17:12,650 --> 00:17:16,110 Speaker 2: fruits of unbelief is complaining. When we begin to get 319 00:17:16,150 --> 00:17:18,630 Speaker 2: our eyes on all the things that are not happening 320 00:17:18,690 --> 00:17:21,929 Speaker 2: around us instead of getting our eyes on the miracle worker. 321 00:17:23,030 --> 00:17:25,150 Speaker 2: That is, I would say, one of the biggest things 322 00:17:25,190 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 2: that I think the enemy tries to go after with 323 00:17:28,060 --> 00:17:31,980 Speaker 2: us in these seasons of process and in between the 324 00:17:32,020 --> 00:17:34,700 Speaker 2: promise and the promised land. He's like, all right, if 325 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:36,880 Speaker 2: I can get your eyes off of Jesus, I can 326 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:39,159 Speaker 2: get your eyes on to all the things that are 327 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:41,730 Speaker 2: not happening so you begin to complain. And it just 328 00:17:41,810 --> 00:17:45,750 Speaker 2: becomes a downward spiral. Hey, I'm telling you, I think 329 00:17:45,790 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 2: last week I was in that spiral, like complaining and 330 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:51,060 Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, this is not happening. And I'm just 331 00:17:51,100 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 2: like conviction. Like, what am I doing? Like, no, God, 332 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:58,060 Speaker 2: you are good. You are a miracle worker. You are 333 00:17:58,100 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 2: a good father. You have your best in mind for me. 334 00:18:01,660 --> 00:18:04,359 Speaker 2: You have not abandoned me. And in those moments, we 335 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 2: have to stop that cycle of complaining and we have 336 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:11,659 Speaker 2: to stand strong in the spirit and And begin to 337 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:15,050 Speaker 2: declare the truth. Begin to use the sword of the 338 00:18:15,150 --> 00:18:18,590 Speaker 2: spirit and say, no, this is what the Lord has said. 339 00:18:18,670 --> 00:18:23,250 Speaker 2: And stand on his promises. Stand on that. And I 340 00:18:23,310 --> 00:18:27,409 Speaker 2: think sometimes we have become too passive. We have become 341 00:18:27,470 --> 00:18:31,650 Speaker 2: complacent at times. And we forget that there is power 342 00:18:31,810 --> 00:18:34,129 Speaker 2: in the declaration that comes out of our mouth. And 343 00:18:34,210 --> 00:18:36,700 Speaker 2: so I'm telling you, when we, like, I know that 344 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:40,300 Speaker 2: feeling when you begin to feel the weightiness of unbelief 345 00:18:40,380 --> 00:18:42,340 Speaker 2: and doubt and You just kind of want to like 346 00:18:42,700 --> 00:18:46,440 Speaker 2: succumb to it and get small and just like hide 347 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:50,880 Speaker 2: and woe is me. And it's just victim mentality. Like, 348 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:53,780 Speaker 2: let's just be real here. And that is when we 349 00:18:53,820 --> 00:18:58,580 Speaker 2: have to say flesh no more. No more. And let 350 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:02,679 Speaker 2: your spirit man just begin to come to the forefront, 351 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:06,030 Speaker 2: your spirit, and begin to declare, no, this is what 352 00:19:06,070 --> 00:19:09,620 Speaker 2: the Lord has said. This is what God has said. 353 00:19:09,740 --> 00:19:12,100 Speaker 2: He is my deliverer. He took me out of Egypt. 354 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:14,419 Speaker 2: He is taking me to the promised land. And we 355 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:19,459 Speaker 2: begin to stand on the promises of the Lord. It's 356 00:19:19,530 --> 00:19:21,930 Speaker 2: as simple as that, I think. But we just have 357 00:19:21,990 --> 00:19:25,990 Speaker 2: to declare and see it through the eyes of faith. Like, 358 00:19:26,070 --> 00:19:30,530 Speaker 2: I mean, even Joshua and Caleb and the other 10 359 00:19:30,530 --> 00:19:32,630 Speaker 2: spies came with a bad report when they looked into 360 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:35,610 Speaker 2: the promised land. And these two guys are like, Easy peasy. 361 00:19:35,650 --> 00:19:39,310 Speaker 2: Like we have to like there is how we see 362 00:19:39,410 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 2: things like the Lord is saying, like, well, you see 363 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:45,479 Speaker 2: through this lens of faith because one bad report impacted 364 00:19:45,500 --> 00:19:48,689 Speaker 2: an entire generation not being able to go. So I 365 00:19:48,750 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 2: think how we see. things even with eyes of faith 366 00:19:52,980 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 2: is way more important than we realize in our. 367 00:19:55,540 --> 00:19:58,740 Speaker 1: Lives that's so good that is so good and something 368 00:19:58,770 --> 00:20:01,710 Speaker 1: that I have seen time and time again throughout scripture 369 00:20:01,730 --> 00:20:06,210 Speaker 1: specifically in the gospels is Jesus calling us to this 370 00:20:06,369 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 1: remembrance like do you remember who I am? Do you 371 00:20:10,020 --> 00:20:13,399 Speaker 1: remember my power? Do you remember what I just did? 372 00:20:13,810 --> 00:20:18,649 Speaker 1: Like feeding the 5,000 or casting out demons or I 373 00:20:19,510 --> 00:20:23,189 Speaker 1: don't know, silencing the seas, right? It's like this calling 374 00:20:23,250 --> 00:20:26,350 Speaker 1: to remembrance builds our faith in these moments where it's like, 375 00:20:26,590 --> 00:20:29,770 Speaker 1: it feels like my faith is being attacked and shaken, 376 00:20:30,130 --> 00:20:33,330 Speaker 1: or I feel like stuck in this place or I 377 00:20:33,590 --> 00:20:36,970 Speaker 1: feel good sitting in my woe and my complaint, right? 378 00:20:37,010 --> 00:20:39,730 Speaker 1: Like sometimes it feels good to sit in that place. 379 00:20:39,790 --> 00:20:43,030 Speaker 1: If we are completely honest, the woe is me, but 380 00:20:43,070 --> 00:20:45,710 Speaker 1: it's like, that is something I love that you said 381 00:20:45,750 --> 00:20:48,650 Speaker 1: that we need to, that we need to lay aside, 382 00:20:48,810 --> 00:20:50,510 Speaker 1: that we need to crucify, that we need to be 383 00:20:50,570 --> 00:20:53,470 Speaker 1: honest about and step into this place of faith of like, okay, 384 00:20:53,490 --> 00:20:55,929 Speaker 1: maybe it is a little uncomfortable to step out of 385 00:20:55,970 --> 00:21:00,510 Speaker 1: these comfortable places and to actually remember who God is, 386 00:21:00,650 --> 00:21:05,310 Speaker 1: remember his promises and, declare his promises, agree with the 387 00:21:05,350 --> 00:21:08,709 Speaker 1: things that are actually true about who Jesus is, his 388 00:21:08,750 --> 00:21:12,290 Speaker 1: power at work within us, whatever, right? I say whatever, 389 00:21:12,390 --> 00:21:15,910 Speaker 1: but like whatever the thing is, because that is what 390 00:21:15,950 --> 00:21:18,270 Speaker 1: moves us forward. I love that you used the example 391 00:21:18,850 --> 00:21:21,870 Speaker 1: of the Israelites with the promised land and the spies, 392 00:21:21,950 --> 00:21:25,230 Speaker 1: because it's like that kept them stuck in a place 393 00:21:25,310 --> 00:21:29,310 Speaker 1: where faith would have moved them forward far quicker. Would 394 00:21:29,330 --> 00:21:31,610 Speaker 1: it have been the comfortable thing and the thing that 395 00:21:32,220 --> 00:21:36,409 Speaker 1: they probably wanted to do. No, but faith reframed it. 396 00:21:36,570 --> 00:21:39,190 Speaker 1: Faith gave them the confidence to move forward, knowing that 397 00:21:39,210 --> 00:21:42,629 Speaker 1: they could have relied on God. Like they were the 398 00:21:42,670 --> 00:21:45,310 Speaker 1: whole time. Like that's the only reason why they were 399 00:21:45,410 --> 00:21:48,669 Speaker 1: able to get out of Egypt and move through the 400 00:21:48,730 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 1: parted seas. And it's like, it's all God. When you 401 00:21:51,820 --> 00:21:54,440 Speaker 1: think about the math of what it all comes down to. 402 00:21:54,580 --> 00:21:57,300 Speaker 1: So that should be where our confidence comes from. That 403 00:21:57,340 --> 00:21:59,780 Speaker 1: should be where our faith is derived from. Like that 404 00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:04,159 Speaker 1: combats unbelief is remembrance of who it is at the 405 00:22:04,180 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 1: end of the day that we get to move forward 406 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:09,420 Speaker 1: with and move forward because. But as we get closer 407 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:12,580 Speaker 1: towards the end of our podcast episode, you write about 408 00:22:12,660 --> 00:22:15,130 Speaker 1: so much. Like literally there's nine keys and we don't 409 00:22:15,170 --> 00:22:16,810 Speaker 1: have time to get through all of them. But is 410 00:22:16,830 --> 00:22:19,070 Speaker 1: there one more that you want to highlight that you're like, ooh, 411 00:22:19,109 --> 00:22:20,970 Speaker 1: this is one that has just been speaking to me 412 00:22:20,990 --> 00:22:24,070 Speaker 1: in this season or one that I think the listeners 413 00:22:24,109 --> 00:22:26,330 Speaker 1: of the Bottom Beloved podcast should hear about real quick 414 00:22:26,369 --> 00:22:28,750 Speaker 1: that they can explore more in the book? I just 415 00:22:28,770 --> 00:22:30,210 Speaker 1: want to throw that to you real quick. Yeah. 416 00:22:30,270 --> 00:22:34,030 Speaker 2: Thank you. I would say definitely one of the, one 417 00:22:34,230 --> 00:22:37,369 Speaker 2: very important practical key in moving into the promise of 418 00:22:37,430 --> 00:22:41,920 Speaker 2: God is the, the key of stewardship. You know, stewardship is, 419 00:22:42,060 --> 00:22:44,140 Speaker 2: I think there's so many good things I want to say, 420 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:47,340 Speaker 2: but you know, if we look in this, in Genesis, 421 00:22:47,700 --> 00:22:50,419 Speaker 2: one of the first mandates that the Lord gave to 422 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:54,490 Speaker 2: Adam and Eve is to be fruitful and multiply, take dominion, 423 00:22:54,550 --> 00:22:59,770 Speaker 2: subdue the earth. Jesus, the God didn't say, pray about it. 424 00:23:00,330 --> 00:23:03,790 Speaker 2: Now go pray about it. Now go wait for 10 confirmations. 425 00:23:04,150 --> 00:23:07,030 Speaker 2: He said, go do it. And sometimes we are waiting 426 00:23:07,250 --> 00:23:10,660 Speaker 2: for the next confirmation to do the last thing he said. 427 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,199 Speaker 2: We're waiting for the next sign. And the Lord's like, I, 428 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:14,920 Speaker 2: what was the last thing I told you to do? 429 00:23:14,940 --> 00:23:21,010 Speaker 2: You know, facts and then This journey of stewardship, we 430 00:23:21,070 --> 00:23:23,790 Speaker 2: will not get into the promises of the Lord, step 431 00:23:23,830 --> 00:23:29,550 Speaker 2: into the promised land without this key, stewardship. Because he 432 00:23:30,090 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 2: will expand your capacity to receive more as you steward 433 00:23:34,260 --> 00:23:36,459 Speaker 2: the little that's in front of you. Listen, you don't 434 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:38,139 Speaker 2: need a lot. You just need to give him what 435 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,500 Speaker 2: you have and to be faithful with the little, the 436 00:23:40,540 --> 00:23:43,180 Speaker 2: boar and the loaves of fishes. He just gave what 437 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:46,090 Speaker 2: he had. And what did God do? He gave. blessed 438 00:23:46,150 --> 00:23:48,300 Speaker 2: it and multiplied it. And it went way further than 439 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:50,740 Speaker 2: he could have ever thought or imagined. So all you 440 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 2: need to do here is just give the Lord what 441 00:23:53,340 --> 00:23:55,719 Speaker 2: you have. Be faithful to the assignment that's on your 442 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:57,379 Speaker 2: life right now. What is he asking you to do 443 00:23:57,420 --> 00:24:00,980 Speaker 2: today in this moment? Do it with excellence. Do it 444 00:24:01,619 --> 00:24:06,620 Speaker 2: with your whole heart. Michael Phelps, he was an Olympic champion, 445 00:24:06,700 --> 00:24:09,580 Speaker 2: but he started training when he was seven. He spent 446 00:24:10,060 --> 00:24:13,989 Speaker 2: thousands of hours preparing for something that he knew he 447 00:24:14,030 --> 00:24:16,490 Speaker 2: wanted to have in his life. And if we took 448 00:24:16,540 --> 00:24:22,160 Speaker 2: that same principle of training and preparing with our spiritual callings, 449 00:24:22,220 --> 00:24:24,159 Speaker 2: with the things that the Lord has called us to 450 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:28,700 Speaker 2: do and promised us, we're going to see a lot 451 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 2: more people step into the promised land, right? So stewardship 452 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,200 Speaker 2: is a really big key that I really dive deep into. 453 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 2: I share a lot of my story of just business 454 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:39,959 Speaker 2: stuff that I stepped into, but it's a good one. 455 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:42,179 Speaker 1: I love that. It's so funny that you say that 456 00:24:42,260 --> 00:24:45,230 Speaker 1: one because that was... obviously I read the book and 457 00:24:45,310 --> 00:24:47,810 Speaker 1: I pulled some questions just based off of what I read. 458 00:24:47,850 --> 00:24:49,470 Speaker 1: And that was one that stuck out to me as well. 459 00:24:49,490 --> 00:24:50,949 Speaker 1: And I was like, well, we didn't get to that one. 460 00:24:50,990 --> 00:24:52,910 Speaker 1: So I'm glad that you brought that up because literally 461 00:24:52,950 --> 00:24:54,649 Speaker 1: that was one that I also was like, this is 462 00:24:54,670 --> 00:24:59,450 Speaker 1: so good because stewardship is when we faithfully handle what 463 00:24:59,510 --> 00:25:03,209 Speaker 1: God has entrusted to us. It's like, Oh, if God, 464 00:25:03,230 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 1: if the God of the universe is trusting me with something, then, 465 00:25:08,230 --> 00:25:11,810 Speaker 1: I better handle that thing with care. I better do 466 00:25:11,850 --> 00:25:14,369 Speaker 1: what he tells me to do with that thing. Yes, 467 00:25:14,390 --> 00:25:16,950 Speaker 1: out of a fear and a reverence for who he is, 468 00:25:17,390 --> 00:25:19,970 Speaker 1: but out of love and honor for who he is. 469 00:25:19,990 --> 00:25:23,369 Speaker 1: And knowing that it's bigger than just me, as you 470 00:25:23,410 --> 00:25:25,790 Speaker 1: talked about earlier on, it's bigger than just me. This 471 00:25:25,850 --> 00:25:30,030 Speaker 1: is something that impacts the kingdom, that gives him the glory. 472 00:25:30,290 --> 00:25:33,460 Speaker 1: So I need to handle this thing with extra care, 473 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:37,120 Speaker 1: like fragile, we're packing peanut, this thing up, like this 474 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,500 Speaker 1: thing is being handled with care and we're going to 475 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:41,139 Speaker 1: make sure that it gets to where it needs to 476 00:25:41,180 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 1: get to on time, right? Like let's pray and be 477 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 1: that kind of people, right? UPS that. Well, with that 478 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:54,340 Speaker 1: being said, speaking of just packaging and order, UPS, Amazon, ah, 479 00:25:54,380 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 1: where can people get your bug? Because it's coming out soon. 480 00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:58,260 Speaker 1: They can pre-order it now. 481 00:25:58,580 --> 00:26:02,740 Speaker 2: Amazon, all the things. I have a website, movingwithgod.com. So 482 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:04,860 Speaker 2: that kind of gives you all the places. I'm also 483 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:08,500 Speaker 2: going to be hosting a free nine day challenge that 484 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:10,950 Speaker 2: goes with this book that we start in January. So 485 00:26:11,010 --> 00:26:14,010 Speaker 2: you can sign up for that as well. But movingwithgod.com 486 00:26:14,050 --> 00:26:16,070 Speaker 2: is going to be where you can see all the places, 487 00:26:16,090 --> 00:26:19,340 Speaker 2: but Amazon, Barnes and Noble online, all the bookstores kind 488 00:26:19,380 --> 00:26:19,860 Speaker 2: of thing. So. 489 00:26:20,410 --> 00:26:24,100 Speaker 1: Cool. Well, definitely check out the website so that y'all 490 00:26:24,130 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 1: can get in on that because y'all know me. I 491 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 1: love a good freebie and I know y'all love a 492 00:26:28,300 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 1: good freebie. So take advantage of that while you can. 493 00:26:32,140 --> 00:26:33,919 Speaker 1: Where can people also check you out and follow you? 494 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,260 Speaker 1: Because I know that you also have an online shop. 495 00:26:36,300 --> 00:26:39,139 Speaker 1: You're wearing your hat. You've got the cutest merch literally 496 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:40,340 Speaker 1: in the whole world. 497 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:40,429 Speaker 2: Yes. 498 00:26:41,260 --> 00:26:43,419 Speaker 1: All of your designs and everything is incredible. So where 499 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:44,500 Speaker 1: can people check that out? 500 00:26:44,900 --> 00:26:49,580 Speaker 2: Yeah. So I have a website, shop.janessawait.com, and we're on 501 00:26:49,619 --> 00:26:52,620 Speaker 2: social media. You can follow us there. We have all 502 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,740 Speaker 2: kinds of great trucker hats, as you can see. I'm 503 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:57,100 Speaker 2: a trucker hat girly. 504 00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,160 Speaker 1: I need to get that one. That one's so cute. 505 00:26:59,240 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 1: I know. 506 00:26:59,510 --> 00:27:01,270 Speaker 2: It comes out. I mean, it'll be out when this airs, 507 00:27:01,310 --> 00:27:04,109 Speaker 2: but it's coming out next week. So we're excited. 508 00:27:04,130 --> 00:27:06,210 Speaker 1: Let's go. It would match my outfit that I'm wearing, 509 00:27:06,230 --> 00:27:08,530 Speaker 1: my little trucker hat. Yes. Oh, my gosh. Super cute. 510 00:27:08,550 --> 00:27:11,750 Speaker 1: So cute. Awesome. Okay. Well, thank y'all for tuning into 511 00:27:11,790 --> 00:27:14,629 Speaker 1: this episode. I pray that it blessed you. And Janessa, 512 00:27:14,830 --> 00:27:17,380 Speaker 1: thank you for being on the episode. Thank you for 513 00:27:17,470 --> 00:27:20,879 Speaker 1: writing this book faithfully when God called you to do it. 514 00:27:20,940 --> 00:27:23,619 Speaker 1: Not too early, not too late, but just on time 515 00:27:23,740 --> 00:27:28,260 Speaker 1: and stewarding that amongst many other things. I hope that 516 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,740 Speaker 1: you guys do check out this book. Janessa, like I said, 517 00:27:30,810 --> 00:27:32,710 Speaker 1: is a good friend of mine. We go way back. 518 00:27:33,210 --> 00:27:36,570 Speaker 1: She is faithful. Like truly, she is a faithful person. 519 00:27:36,869 --> 00:27:40,159 Speaker 1: And I know that this book has impacted me reading it, 520 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 1: but I know that it'll pour into so many of 521 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:45,010 Speaker 1: y'all's lives as well. It dives into so much more 522 00:27:45,050 --> 00:27:47,070 Speaker 1: than what we talked about today. And I'm excited for 523 00:27:47,090 --> 00:27:48,489 Speaker 1: you all to get your hands on that and to 524 00:27:48,630 --> 00:27:51,330 Speaker 1: read it or listen to it or however you consume 525 00:27:51,369 --> 00:27:53,830 Speaker 1: your books, right? Listening to a book is still reading 526 00:27:53,890 --> 00:27:56,750 Speaker 1: a book. Maybe, maybe not. Y'all can argue about that. 527 00:27:57,270 --> 00:28:00,010 Speaker 1: But I hope that you do tune in and listen 528 00:28:00,050 --> 00:28:01,629 Speaker 1: or read her book because I know it's going to 529 00:28:01,650 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 1: bless you in so many ways. But until next week, 530 00:28:04,950 --> 00:28:07,170 Speaker 1: I love you guys. Thanks for tuning into this week's 531 00:28:07,230 --> 00:28:09,270 Speaker 1: episode of the bottom beloved podcast. And I'll see you 532 00:28:09,310 --> 00:28:11,730 Speaker 1: next week for another until then. I love you. 533 00:28:11,980 --> 00:28:12,400 Speaker 2: Bye. 534 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 1: For more life giving faith based podcasts, just like this one, 535 00:28:16,980 --> 00:28:20,410 Speaker 1: check out life audio.com a proud partner of the bottom 536 00:28:20,450 --> 00:28:21,409 Speaker 1: beloved podcast.