WEBVTT - Charlie vs. The Students on Immigration 

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<v Speaker 1>My name is Charlie kirk I run the largest pro

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<v Speaker 1>American student organization in the country, fighting for the future

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<v Speaker 1>of our republic.

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<v Speaker 2>My call is to fight evil and to proclaim truth.

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<v Speaker 1>If the most important thing for you is just feeling good,

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna end up miserable.

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<v Speaker 2>But if the most important.

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<v Speaker 1>Thing is doing good, you'll end up purposeful. College is

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<v Speaker 1>a scam, everybody. You got to stop sending your kids

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<v Speaker 1>to college. You should get married as young as possible

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<v Speaker 1>and have as many kids as possible. Go start at

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<v Speaker 1>turning point, you would say, college chapter. Go start attorny point,

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<v Speaker 1>you say high school chapter. Go find out how your

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<v Speaker 2>Let's talk about the border.

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<v Speaker 1>We have brought in five percent of the population of hating.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't see the issue with that though, like as

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<v Speaker 1>you don't see the issue allow allowing.

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<v Speaker 2>Immigrants into our country. I mean, is that not the.

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<v Speaker 1>Foundations are legal immigrants that he is seeking refuge for

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<v Speaker 1>the best country in the world. Isn't that the whole

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<v Speaker 1>point of your organization? The US is the best country

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<v Speaker 1>in the world. Shouldn't we be obligated to like help

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<v Speaker 1>people that are something?

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<v Speaker 2>America is the best country.

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<v Speaker 1>Therefore citizens should come first, not foreigners.

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<v Speaker 2>So we have an obligation to our own people. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so the path of the citizenship should become easier.

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<v Speaker 1>No, we should deport them all back to We should

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<v Speaker 1>deport them all back to them all back to their hall.

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<v Speaker 2>Of the immigrants. Okay, we shouldn't all the illegal foreigners.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>In Springfield, Ohio, in one town.

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<v Speaker 1>English is a second language speakers in one high school

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<v Speaker 1>went from two hundred and fifty to fifteen hundred kids

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<v Speaker 1>in two years.

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<v Speaker 2>These communities are being overrun. Go down to Aurora, Colorado.

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<v Speaker 1>Right down the street here, entire apartment complexes are now

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<v Speaker 1>being run by Venezuelan gangs. Not to mention, every day

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<v Speaker 1>an American citizen is being killed from Lake and Riley

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<v Speaker 1>to Rachel Morin to eleven year olds that are being

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<v Speaker 1>killed in duy accidents.

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<v Speaker 3>We have a belief that.

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<v Speaker 1>Our founding fathers had, which is your government does not

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<v Speaker 1>fulfill its obligation to its own people first, its government

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<v Speaker 1>is not legitimate.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's what's happening right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Our government is now providing taxpayer funded cell phones, hotel rooms, benefits,

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<v Speaker 1>airplane rides, cash.

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<v Speaker 2>For foreigners, but not for Americans.

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<v Speaker 1>If you guys, as an American citizen, want a free

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<v Speaker 1>cell phone, they'll laugh at you as a foreigner. For Venezuelan,

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<v Speaker 1>you get one on the southern border. You get a

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<v Speaker 1>flight to any city that you want. You get a

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<v Speaker 1>luxury hotel in New York City, you get taxpayer funded healthcare.

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<v Speaker 1>That is the inversion that is elevating somebody from a

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<v Speaker 1>distant land over our own people when our own kids

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<v Speaker 1>can't afford homes. Our own people are seeing an increase

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<v Speaker 1>in crime, homelessness, and we have over fifty thousand homeless

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<v Speaker 1>vets in this country.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a breakdown of the social contract.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, so the government should support veterans, support citizens, and

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<v Speaker 1>more we should do Yeah, yeah, so we should spend

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<v Speaker 1>more on our people that are health care better social prosections.

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<v Speaker 2>It's literally you just said we should spend it.

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<v Speaker 1>On veterans and not on foreign and American citizens with

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<v Speaker 1>like cheaper health care.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's what you just said. Well, hold on, you're freeing.

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<v Speaker 1>Phones, airplane rides, public transit. I don't have to pray

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<v Speaker 1>for Americans. No, it sounds terrible, actually Americans.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, government should not be getting free phones to anybody.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, you said that the citizens should come first in

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<v Speaker 1>those progress You know how they should come first by

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<v Speaker 1>not having to compete against a foreigner for your job.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't think that's the Kenason though. When mostly

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<v Speaker 1>how about this, if your own perspective was correct, would

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<v Speaker 1>you feel careful comfortable going in an uber right now

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<v Speaker 1>to Aurora, Colorado and go into those three apartment complexes.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, according to the Aurora police, I probably would.

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<v Speaker 1>They say the apartment's complexes.

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<v Speaker 2>Are not overrun. You should get in the car and

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<v Speaker 2>go yet and go.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, go talk to anybody here and go knock

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<v Speaker 1>on the door, and they'll extort you. For cash, because

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<v Speaker 1>we're a country that is open for looting. Right now,

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<v Speaker 1>for the entire world, over one hundred and eighteen countries

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<v Speaker 1>have entered the southern border that we know of. At

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<v Speaker 1>least ninety nine people on the terrorist watch list have

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<v Speaker 1>come across the southern border.

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<v Speaker 2>We're talking about people from.

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<v Speaker 1>Turkmenistan, Whozbekistan, from Iran, people from Pakistan that are coming

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<v Speaker 1>here and mean harm to the interior of the United States.

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<v Speaker 2>Not to mention, we're breaking down what it means to

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<v Speaker 2>be a citizen.

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<v Speaker 1>A citizen should be put first above anybody else. If

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<v Speaker 1>a government does not do that, then a government is

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<v Speaker 1>not fulfilling it's basic obligation, and the number one obligation

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<v Speaker 1>is to make sure that it's people can have a

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<v Speaker 1>pathway to a better life and a good life, not

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<v Speaker 1>a variety of free stuff, but not have to compete

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<v Speaker 1>with somebody from Brazil for a home. Not that the cure, no,

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<v Speaker 1>but not sure. The way that we're not doing that

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<v Speaker 1>is that we're importing the third world, and we're quickly

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<v Speaker 1>becoming the world. So why don't we use our resources

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<v Speaker 1>to improve the third world so they're not coming here

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<v Speaker 1>rather than.

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<v Speaker 2>Because that's not the role of the American government.

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<v Speaker 1>You think we should be concerned about Central American politics.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care. I care about our own people, so

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<v Speaker 1>secure the border, about those people that are so you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you know why you're in Of course I care about it.

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<v Speaker 1>You say you don't want to spend the money to

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<v Speaker 1>make that change happen. Number one, We've spent trillions, hundreds

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<v Speaker 1>of billions of dollars. It doesn't do anything any good.

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<v Speaker 2>Number two.

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<v Speaker 1>Number two, it is not the role of the American

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<v Speaker 1>government to solve the problems of Panama, El Salvador and

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<v Speaker 1>Honduras when our own citizens are suffering and are crying

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<v Speaker 1>out for help. So why has the billions of dollars

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<v Speaker 1>spent on Central American aid over the last four years.

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<v Speaker 1>We shouldn't efect that it slowing it has the rates

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<v Speaker 1>of sex trafficking.

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<v Speaker 2>In Central America. It hasn't.

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<v Speaker 1>It hasn't slowed anything. No, it's been effect It hasn't

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<v Speaker 1>affected anything. What you're talking about is bribing these governments

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<v Speaker 1>where they then go give it to cartel leaders and say, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>this month, send twenty thousand people instead of forty thousands.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not what that money's going towards scaling towards NGO's

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<v Speaker 1>built um up stabilization.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think NGOs spend the money correctly? Okay nine,

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<v Speaker 2>you are so nicely.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, more people are crossing the Daarien Gap

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<v Speaker 1>than ever before, not to mention we are, they're coming

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<v Speaker 1>across on the CBP one app across the border into

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<v Speaker 1>the interior United States in every single state. You cannot

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<v Speaker 1>continue to have a country if you import an unfamiliar.

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<v Speaker 2>Third world this quickly into America. So now you should

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<v Speaker 2>be a path to So we should.

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<v Speaker 1>Have no immigrants in this country right now, no immigrant

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<v Speaker 1>on and we need a total complete shutdown of immigration

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<v Speaker 1>in this country until every single gen Z person can

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<v Speaker 1>afford a home and can get their act together and

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<v Speaker 1>be able to afford the American work. Your path to

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<v Speaker 1>gen Z getting homes is it just kicking off brown people,

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<v Speaker 1>not brown people. I think we should imgrant, we should.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyone that's here illegally should be deported back to their

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<v Speaker 1>country of homeland.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, it's a moral position one visas that

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<v Speaker 2>like generate that's interesting, h one B.

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<v Speaker 1>But you're staying computer anything, anybody computer engineering. You guys

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<v Speaker 1>have to compete against a foreigner.

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<v Speaker 2>For a job.

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<v Speaker 1>That's wrong every Yeah American, Well, I actually care about

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<v Speaker 1>the country more.

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<v Speaker 2>Than the free markets.

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<v Speaker 1>Colleges should better prepare students and better uf resources. College

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<v Speaker 1>is a scam, but yes, we went, We did that

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<v Speaker 1>earlier for computer science. They shouldn't go to college.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, actually, don't need to go to college for computer science.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't need to go to college computer science. You could

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<v Speaker 2>do a coding class in a couple of months. You

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<v Speaker 2>could do a coating class. Yes, yeah, Alphabet is hiring

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<v Speaker 2>right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Alpha can get a job at Alphabet Google. Yes, taking

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<v Speaker 1>a C plus plus class. Correct, Yes, yes, they're hiring

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<v Speaker 1>coders after a sixty day coding class. To answer your question,

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<v Speaker 1>a country that ceases to secure its own sovereignty and

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<v Speaker 1>does not think I care more about my own people

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<v Speaker 1>than the foreigners ceases to be a country. You're a

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<v Speaker 1>colony and you're something else, and we are seeing our

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<v Speaker 1>generosity be taken advantage of. I am all for American

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<v Speaker 1>charities going down to Panama and helping out.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm all for people giving the charity.

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<v Speaker 1>So we should reallocate us spending towards things that are

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<v Speaker 1>actually effective for people in and outside of our borders.

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<v Speaker 1>So then we don't want people coming into our borders,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we can help our people. Well, no, the

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<v Speaker 1>way again, if they come to the border and the

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<v Speaker 1>border is closed and.

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<v Speaker 2>You say a stile, they go back to Nicaraga.

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<v Speaker 1>If we spend in Central America, they don't have to

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<v Speaker 1>come to the US, and then we have a US

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<v Speaker 1>the same amount of spending. No, no, it's the first

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<v Speaker 1>of all, if you to solve the problems of the

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<v Speaker 1>Third World would cost trillions of dollars and that would

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<v Speaker 1>all be laundered and not even work. And again, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not the position of the American government to go throw

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<v Speaker 1>money around in the Southern Triangle. Instead, it's our country's closed.

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<v Speaker 1>We're not open for looting anymore. Go make Nicarago great again,

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<v Speaker 1>or go do it. El Salvador is gone. El Salvador

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<v Speaker 1>is now a safe and stable country and they're seeing

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<v Speaker 1>their GDP go up.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's not because of us. Yeah, it is.

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<v Speaker 1>We put four billion dollars into cushoes in America.

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<v Speaker 2>Hold then, and you know, Bukelly barely took the money.

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<v Speaker 2>You know why it's safe.

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<v Speaker 1>Bukell has turned El Salvador safe because he locked up

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<v Speaker 1>all the criminals. He locked up forty thousand criminals and

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<v Speaker 1>put them in prisons. And El Salvador is now safer

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<v Speaker 1>than America. El Salvador is the murder capital of the world,

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<v Speaker 1>and now El Salvador is much safer than America. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's wrong. If you guys are afraid to walk

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<v Speaker 1>the streets to Denver at night, I wouldn't walk the

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<v Speaker 1>streets to Denver. Would you guys know that's a breakdown

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<v Speaker 1>of the fundamental role of government. Would you guys walk

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<v Speaker 1>the streets of la at night? No, the streets of

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<v Speaker 1>San Francisco. No, we can't walk our own greatest cities

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<v Speaker 1>at night. And we want to bring in more people

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<v Speaker 1>from the Third World, Hell no.

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<v Speaker 4>In the case of immigration, if you hard restrict it

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<v Speaker 4>and make it harder to get in, the only people

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<v Speaker 4>who are going to make the attempts to get in,

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<v Speaker 4>or generally going to make the attempts to get in,

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<v Speaker 4>are more likely to commit crimes.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's just not there's no there's no data or

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<v Speaker 1>evidence to suggest that at all. When we've had the

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<v Speaker 1>strictest immigration policies, crime was at its lowest in this country.

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<v Speaker 1>Well so in the nineteenthimes correlation. Well, no, it's actually

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<v Speaker 1>direct causation. Right now, we have wide open borders, correct

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<v Speaker 1>DNA background testing from over one hundred and twenty different countries.

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<v Speaker 4>Sure, but I don't think that has to do with

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<v Speaker 4>the process of getting into the country. And well, it

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<v Speaker 4>has to do with the process getting in the country,

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<v Speaker 4>because if it's extremely difficult to get in through legally,

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<v Speaker 4>people are going to resort to coming through illegally. Well

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<v Speaker 4>is that not true? But we should just prevent both,

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<v Speaker 4>that's the point. You should you should prevent people getting

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<v Speaker 4>in in any way.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well we should have a total immigration moratorium in

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<v Speaker 1>this country.

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<v Speaker 3>Can we have like the.

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<v Speaker 4>Lowest unemployment we've had in a long time, wouldn't we

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<v Speaker 4>want more workers?

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<v Speaker 1>No, we want wages to go up for American workers.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the opposite. Well, so you want to restrict the

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<v Speaker 1>labor pool so that you guys get the jobs first,

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<v Speaker 1>not some competitor from Korea or Japan that comes in

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<v Speaker 1>and steals your tech job. Shouldn't we invest in American

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<v Speaker 1>workers first before free Sure we should, But why do

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<v Speaker 1>you think wages are not keeping up with inflation? Because

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<v Speaker 1>we're bringing in millions of people into this country every

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<v Speaker 1>single year that you guys have to compete against and

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<v Speaker 1>they don't have student loan debt, if they're able to

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<v Speaker 1>undercut wages every single yeah, continue, If we're.

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<v Speaker 4>Bringing in so many people, I don't think we would

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<v Speaker 4>have as low unemployment as we would right now, would we.

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<v Speaker 2>There's two types of unemployment.

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<v Speaker 1>There's structural unemployment and then their specialized unemployment. Specialized unemployment

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<v Speaker 1>is very very high, which is about eight to nine percent,

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<v Speaker 1>which is more computer science data engineering. But that we

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<v Speaker 1>have millions of people that have entered the disabled roles too.

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<v Speaker 1>So but to your point, we do have millions of

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<v Speaker 1>people coming into the I mean it's not even a.

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<v Speaker 4>Question, but how many of those people you think that

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<v Speaker 4>are coming in or would come in if we made

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<v Speaker 4>it faster and more easy, are going to be taking

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<v Speaker 4>these high specialized tech jobs.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, very few.

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<v Speaker 1>But the point is that the point about they undercut

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<v Speaker 1>the muscular class, which is the very people that pay

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest burden for all of these policy.

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<v Speaker 4>You said that the high unemployment is in specialized not

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<v Speaker 4>in general unemployment. Correct, Yeah, general unemployment is so low,

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<v Speaker 4>then why does it, like, why are we worried about

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<v Speaker 4>people coming in taking the jobs of like those.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not the only reason why we're worried.

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<v Speaker 1>We're worried because many of them are coming in illegally,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's they're criminals, every single one of them, so

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<v Speaker 1>they break our laws.

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<v Speaker 3>I think you're proving my point here though.

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<v Speaker 1>But no, you're just making one sliver of economics though

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<v Speaker 1>numbers aside. How many of you guys have seen things

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<v Speaker 1>get so expensive in the last year and a half.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so that's just I agree.

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<v Speaker 4>But the real I think that's we have different reasons

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<v Speaker 4>because I see that.

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<v Speaker 2>Major companies, why are price is going up?

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<v Speaker 4>I see major companies are owning different things like serial brands.

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<v Speaker 4>There's like two companies that own allso serial brands. And

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<v Speaker 4>when they can increase the prices continually and say, hey,

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<v Speaker 4>look guys, it's inflation when they're making record profits that

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<v Speaker 4>they've never made.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>If that's If that's the case, then then why are

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<v Speaker 1>small businesses raising their prices?

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<v Speaker 4>Small businesses are raising their prices because the products that

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<v Speaker 4>they're getting in from these major two to three companies.

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<v Speaker 1>Are Okay, So how does inflation work.

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<v Speaker 4>Inflation works by having more money in the system and

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<v Speaker 4>generally because of that, your dollar is worth less, and

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<v Speaker 4>then your wages don't really increase, and because your wages

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<v Speaker 4>don't increase, everything's costing more to you.

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<v Speaker 1>So tru or false. We have injected around ten trillion

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<v Speaker 1>dollars of new money in the last three years. Absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, that is the number one reason why we're

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<v Speaker 1>seeing prices increase.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, But I think it's slowed.

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<v Speaker 4>The inflation itself has slowed down a lot, and the

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<v Speaker 4>prices themselves.

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<v Speaker 2>Depends on what good or service you're talking about.

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<v Speaker 4>I agree, and I think the reason it's what good

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<v Speaker 4>or service is because the goods or services that are

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<v Speaker 4>in control of porderline monopolies are able to raise their

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<v Speaker 4>prices more and more. That's why when you go to

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<v Speaker 4>the grocery store, the big issue is a bunch of

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<v Speaker 4>things are going up that are controlled by major companies

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<v Speaker 4>that are supplying all these grocery stores, right, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>But a lot of them have competitors, and so I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I can list five or six examples where there's robust

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<v Speaker 1>competition and prices are still going up. But we have

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<v Speaker 1>too many dollars chasing too many, too few goods and services.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the big problem.

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<v Speaker 4>Our worker base isn't really churning as it should because

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<v Speaker 4>we have such low unemployment, which is why I'm saying

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<v Speaker 4>immigration should be easier come in because when your workers

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<v Speaker 4>aren't moving through positions and stuff, wages aren't going to

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<v Speaker 4>increase that often because you're more likely to get a

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<v Speaker 4>wage increased by switching to another job that.

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<v Speaker 3>Pays you more.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So wouldn't it make if you want to get

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<v Speaker 1>wages up? Shouldn't you want to restrict the amount of

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<v Speaker 1>workers in the workforce? I mean it's pretty so if

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<v Speaker 1>you have two hundred people you could hire to fix

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<v Speaker 1>a window or thirty people to hire to fix a window,

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<v Speaker 1>which pool is going to have the higher average wage?

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<v Speaker 3>I think the I think the smaller pool would.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, Well, I think the issue is a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>people right now aren't wanting to go switch to other

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<v Speaker 4>jobs all the time, and when you get more people

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<v Speaker 4>in more jobs, you're likely to have more churn through there.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Yeah, I don't think we disagree on that.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, cool, So that's that's why I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>But you don't have me convinced on an immigration issue, though,

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<v Speaker 1>because if you restrict immigration across the board, then you

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<v Speaker 1>have a prioritization and a lesser pool of competition for

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<v Speaker 1>foreign born American labor.

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<v Speaker 4>Sure, but I think am I wrong in saying your

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<v Speaker 4>issue is that you have issues with specialized labor coming

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<v Speaker 4>in and taking the positions of higher paying more specially.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, to be fair, it's it's specialized muscular

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<v Speaker 1>class labor, which is conflated. So there's there's advanced manufacturing too,

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<v Speaker 1>which does not require college degree but can take six

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<v Speaker 1>to nine months of apprenticeship, or for example, being an

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<v Speaker 1>auto mechanic that's not exactly being a coder, but that's

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<v Speaker 1>tough work, right, or.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, even more simply, I.

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<v Speaker 4>Just don't think that that's the majority of labor that

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<v Speaker 4>is going to come in if we allow more people through.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's not like a blanket, Oh we're letting everybody through.

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<v Speaker 4>But right now, I see My biggest issue with the

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<v Speaker 4>right is that, like, why are we restricting more immigration

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<v Speaker 4>other than like illegal immigration, but why are we not

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<v Speaker 4>proposing ways to loosen immigration to fix that the jobs

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<v Speaker 4>that aren't like that, because there's like most jobs aren't

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<v Speaker 4>generally in those classes.

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<v Speaker 1>You're coming after this in good faith, My response would

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<v Speaker 1>be we need a national training program to get Americans

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<v Speaker 1>properly trained before we try to import foreign labor to

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<v Speaker 1>fill those positions. And that goes back to my college

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<v Speaker 1>credentialing which is for your college degree, and we've undersupplied

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<v Speaker 1>the six to nine month specialization vector. And because that,

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<v Speaker 1>we have massive job opening. I want to get to

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<v Speaker 6>So I just had a question because you talk a

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<v Speaker 6>lot about like protecting and securing our southern borders, But

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<v Speaker 6>as the granddaughter of immigrants, I think that we get

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<v Speaker 6>into a lot of complicated disputes with the idea that

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<v Speaker 6>immigrants are criminals, are drug dealers and things like that.

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<v Speaker 6>So I just want to hear what your opinion is

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<v Speaker 6>on those expectations. Are those what do you call it,

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<v Speaker 6>those stereotypes that are put on Hispanic communities, Latino communities

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<v Speaker 6>and how they change the way people perceive immigration.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, so thank you for the question. So you said

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<v Speaker 1>you're the first generation student or first generation American.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm a first generation student.

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<v Speaker 2>Cool, great, second generation American? Do they hear that right?

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<v Speaker 6>I'm a third generation American on my mom's side, second.

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<v Speaker 2>On my dad's.

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<v Speaker 1>When you're your grandparents, then is that right came to

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<v Speaker 1>the country. Did they do so through the legal process?

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<v Speaker 2>That was ind So my.

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<v Speaker 6>Father got married to my mother, so he is a

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<v Speaker 6>legal resident of the United States. She's been here her

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<v Speaker 6>entire life.

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<v Speaker 2>But did she did she enter?

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<v Speaker 6>My great she did?

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<v Speaker 2>She's born here. Yeah, got it.

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<v Speaker 6>My grandpa on my dad's side entered in illegally.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So I'm not here to like insult your grandpa, right,

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah, yeah, But we must be very clear that

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<v Speaker 1>the type of immigration that we support is when you

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<v Speaker 1>follow our rules and you come on our terms, and

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<v Speaker 1>that you do not break into a country uninvited and

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<v Speaker 1>you try to cut Can I add something to that.

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<v Speaker 6>The reason why he left, and a lot of people

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<v Speaker 6>in Mexico do, is because of the political state, especially

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<v Speaker 6>in the seventies and eighties when they decided to move.

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<v Speaker 6>They have a government that isn't supportive of their constituents

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<v Speaker 6>and because of drug problems there, their only choice was

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<v Speaker 6>to move.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I totally sympathize. That's not true.

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<v Speaker 1>It's never the only choice to commit a crime, and

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<v Speaker 1>we should not put up with it. And so it

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<v Speaker 1>is an insult to other immigrants from Vietnam and Laos

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<v Speaker 1>in Pakistan that have to wait decades in line to

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<v Speaker 1>morally equivalate people that come in and just break in. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I have an unstable country, like half of the world's

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<v Speaker 1>countries are unstable. So we just have to be very

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<v Speaker 1>clear with this is that if you come into the

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<v Speaker 1>country uninvited, you have committed a crime and you are

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<v Speaker 1>a criminal. And we could decide that we're not going

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<v Speaker 1>to enforce our laws, or we can say that when

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<v Speaker 1>you are a criminal, you should then be punished for

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<v Speaker 1>that crime aka sent back to your country of origin

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<v Speaker 1>because you were not invited. And it is an insult

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<v Speaker 1>again to the polls and to the Checklesovakians and from

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<v Speaker 1>the Senegalese and people all across the world that don't

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<v Speaker 1>have the proximity of luxury, just to waltz into America.

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<v Speaker 6>You call it a luxury to leave a country that

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<v Speaker 6>has political tyranny and come into a country.

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<v Speaker 1>With all the tay yes to live in Mexico, to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to go you one hundred miles north and

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<v Speaker 1>break into America. Do you know how many people Pakistan

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<v Speaker 1>would kill to be on that border?

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<v Speaker 2>That's why we bring them in?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we shouldn't, right, that's the point. And secondly, do

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<v Speaker 1>you do you think that you have a right to

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<v Speaker 1>immigrate to America.

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<v Speaker 6>I think that I didn't have a choice. My grandparents

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<v Speaker 6>made that decision.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm not trying to attack your grandparents, but no

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<v Speaker 1>one has a right to go to anybody else's country.

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<v Speaker 1>You are invited. It is a privilege, not a right

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<v Speaker 1>to come into America.

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<v Speaker 6>It's a privilege to live a life that requires you

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<v Speaker 6>to have clean water, clean food. Y. Of course it is,

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<v Speaker 6>and you have to fight for that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes it is not.

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<v Speaker 6>But we didn't hold on a set well born here.

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<v Speaker 3>We may fight for that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, my ancestors did fight for that, actually, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a very thankful recipient of many generations of Americans that

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<v Speaker 1>fought for the greatest nation ever time.

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<v Speaker 6>What coming here.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, illegally what wait, what did my ancestors do.

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<v Speaker 2>They came here.

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<v Speaker 1>They came over here in sixteen twenty, fought in the

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<v Speaker 1>Revolutionary War, fought in the Civil War, fought w Because my.

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<v Speaker 6>Grandfather didn't come here in sixteen twenty, it gives him

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<v Speaker 6>no right to He.

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<v Speaker 1>Can fill up paperwork and wait in line like the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of the world, and then we can see, we

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<v Speaker 1>can see whether or not it's in our best interest

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<v Speaker 1>to allow him to come in. And so we have

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<v Speaker 1>to weigh costs and benefits. Do you think that the

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<v Speaker 1>American government should first have an obligation to citizens before foreigners?

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<v Speaker 6>Hm?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I think we have as good question. Here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, we're obligated because we're citizens to have the rights

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<v Speaker 6>that we have, but that doesn't mean we can't.

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<v Speaker 2>Open up our orders a lot of seconds.

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<v Speaker 1>So, you, being a younger American and everyone in the

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<v Speaker 1>audience is the first generation in American history to have

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<v Speaker 1>it be worse off than your parents. So the socials

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<v Speaker 1>and you agree with that social contract poor more expensive.

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<v Speaker 1>So wouldn't it be rational for the American government to

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<v Speaker 1>say we're going to prioritize younger generation Americans? That are

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<v Speaker 1>American passport holders and citizens before those in another nation.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't think. I don't I don't want to say

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<v Speaker 6>anything that offends people, But you go ahead, said it, right,

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<v Speaker 6>I've already said it whatever. I think that the way

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<v Speaker 6>we're going about it is wrong, and that if we

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<v Speaker 6>don't have a clear path to citizenship, we won't open

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<v Speaker 6>up those opportunities for people to come and seek a

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<v Speaker 6>good life.

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<v Speaker 2>But I also think that, yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>We are required to have those rights.

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<v Speaker 1>Are speaking, A good life is fine, It's a nice

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<v Speaker 1>added benefit. Our government does not exist to improve the

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<v Speaker 1>life of foreign citizens.

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<v Speaker 6>A government should be open to the idea of excepting.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course we are if we have our own house

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<v Speaker 1>in order. We are in chaos right now. We have

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<v Speaker 1>the most depressed, suicidal, anxious generation history. Our birth rate

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<v Speaker 1>is collapsing. Kids can't afford homes. You guys are are

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<v Speaker 1>drowning in debt. You have to compete against jobs, You

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<v Speaker 1>have to compete for jobs against foreigners. Our country is

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<v Speaker 1>a mess right now. And so when your country is

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<v Speaker 1>a mess and your home is in disarray and bedlam,

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<v Speaker 1>your own government should say time out. I have a

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<v Speaker 1>heart for the people of Haiti, I have a heart

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<v Speaker 1>for the people of every country, but you're not coming

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<v Speaker 1>here until this generation at least has it as good

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<v Speaker 1>as their parents. And that is a very simple moral statement.

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<v Speaker 1>If when you bring people in, they make the life

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<v Speaker 1>worse for the people that were already here, should we

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<v Speaker 1>stop letting those people in?

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<v Speaker 2>Do they though? Yes they do.

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<v Speaker 1>Illegals every day are doing DUIs and kids are dying

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<v Speaker 1>across the country.

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<v Speaker 6>But if Americans are doing this, it's fine.

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<v Speaker 2>Well it's not fine. They should go to jail.

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<v Speaker 1>But this is the red herring is that Americans are

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<v Speaker 1>invited guests. Foreigners are people that broke into the country

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<v Speaker 1>that shouldn't be here, and none of those crimes should

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<v Speaker 1>be happening at all. One of them is a crime

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<v Speaker 1>of choice. The other is just a crime, because that's

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<v Speaker 1>part of what happens when you have a society.

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<v Speaker 2>So when you have Americans that are murdered.

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<v Speaker 1>By illegals, that is because we have decided and chosen

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<v Speaker 1>we're okay with them being here, and if they kill

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<v Speaker 1>our people, no big deal.

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<v Speaker 6>That's I'm just trying to I know we're not going

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<v Speaker 6>to agree on It's.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why I came up here.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you okay with deporting every illegal person that's here.

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<v Speaker 6>No, why because there's some people here that are not

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<v Speaker 6>represented well by the media. There's a lot of illegal

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<v Speaker 6>immigrants here that are working their butts off for the life.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I don't care if they're working hard.

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<v Speaker 1>But the point is, what should the punishment be for

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<v Speaker 1>breaking into a country?

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<v Speaker 6>Depends on the crime you commit after you break into it.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's it. I'm talking about. Just the crime is

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<v Speaker 1>breaking in. What should the punishment be? I break into

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<v Speaker 1>somebody's home, what should their punishment be?

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<v Speaker 2>Can you repeat that? Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>So if you behave after you get here, that's fine.

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<v Speaker 1>So to play that out. If someone comes into your

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<v Speaker 1>dorm room uninvited and they do the dishes and laundry,

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<v Speaker 1>they can stay.

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<v Speaker 6>If I'm not going to do my own dishes, heck yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>they're doing my dishes for me.

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<v Speaker 2>Cool.

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<v Speaker 6>If they don't kill me, I'm not dead.

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<v Speaker 2>It is what it is.

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<v Speaker 4>Man.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, they are killing a lot of Americans. But you

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<v Speaker 2>say they like.

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<v Speaker 6>They are they all illegal immigrants kill people.

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<v Speaker 2>Many illegals do. Actually they're no. But it's just interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>The punishment for the crime of breaking into a nation

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<v Speaker 1>should be what it is in Switzerland and Israel and Hungry.

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<v Speaker 1>Every person who breaks into a nation uninvited goes back

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<v Speaker 1>to their country of origin.

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<v Speaker 2>Period.

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<v Speaker 6>Is there an emphasis on the southern border.

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<v Speaker 1>Because most people come illegally through the southern border.

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<v Speaker 6>The point I'm trying to make is that we categorize

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<v Speaker 6>all illegal immigrants under the same thing, sex traffickers, drug dealers.

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<v Speaker 6>Are you saying all illegal immigrants have to be deported?

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<v Speaker 6>You're applying that all of them, and not a small

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<v Speaker 6>percentage of that.

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<v Speaker 1>If you come into a country uninvited, definitionally you are

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<v Speaker 1>a criminal.

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<v Speaker 6>We're just not going to agree.

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<v Speaker 2>That's fine. Then final question, what is a criminal?

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<v Speaker 6>What is a criminal?

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<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 2>What is it?

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<v Speaker 1>Would you agree with the definition that a criminal is

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<v Speaker 1>someone who breaks the law?

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<v Speaker 2>M Here's where I'm thinking, I don't. Here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't.

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<v Speaker 6>I know how he's gonna turn it, and I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Fell it's not a matter of turning it. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>it's a very abc sequence. If they're not criminals, then

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<v Speaker 1>tell me what a criminal. And a criminal is obviously

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<v Speaker 1>someone who breaks the law. Someone who comes across the

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<v Speaker 1>sounin border broke federal law. Therefore, they are a criminal.

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