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Speaker 1: I'm Joshammer and this is Josh Hammer Show folks. Wishing

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Speaker 1: all of you a blessed ash Wednesday. May it be

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Speaker 1: an easy fans for those of you who have been

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Speaker 1: fasting throughout today. Whish my fellow Jews also a roche

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Speaker 1: hoodesh on our happy new month in the Hebrew calendar

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Speaker 1: as well. Planning to get to Rachel Beauvard of the

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Speaker 1: concertive Parnichham Institute sauspay lay on the program to unpack

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Speaker 1: the filibuster debates in the Senate, this time when it

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Speaker 1: comes in the form of the Save America Act, This

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Speaker 1: indispensable voter id legislation. Are Democrats willing to filibuster in

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Speaker 1: the name of opposing an eighty twenty issue? Will impact

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Speaker 1: that much more with Rachel later on the show, but

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Speaker 1: for now we lead with this is war imminent in

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Speaker 1: the Middle East? Stop me if you've heard this one before.

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Speaker 1: This is an ongoing story, perhaps you might say, for

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Speaker 1: the past twenty five thirty years, at least as far back,

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Speaker 1: arguably as the Clinton era, perhaps debates surrounding the original

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Speaker 1: bomby of the World Trade Center in nineteen ninety three,

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Speaker 1: arguably even further back than that, with the formation and

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Speaker 1: the takeover in Tehran of the current reigning Islamic Revolutionary regime,

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Speaker 1: with the hostage crisis that effectively ended the Jimmy Carter

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Speaker 1: release in nineteen eighty. The Irani regime, to be clear,

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Speaker 1: has been a thorn in the side of the United

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Speaker 1: It's actually, though even worse than that, this is a

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Speaker 1: They are, whether we care to admit it or whether

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Speaker 1: we desire to recognize it as such. They are any

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Speaker 1: it as a state of war. Congress has not issued

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Speaker 1: a formal declaration of war against Iran, for instance, under

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Speaker 1: Article one section of the Constitution, and in colloquial layman's terms,

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Speaker 1: we don't think and act and live our lives every

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Speaker 1: with the run. But make no mistake about it, the

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Speaker 1: They chant death to America and death to Israel, which

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Speaker 1: Satan in their perverse twisted is limicidiology, respectively. They chant

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Speaker 1: The debate, now for a little over a month, has

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Speaker 1: been this will President Donald Trump, following his issuance and

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Speaker 1: Mola apparatchiks have not just taken that red line, acrossed it,

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump, reiterating on January fifteenth on True Social saying

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Speaker 1: There have now been at least two rounds of negotiations,

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Speaker 1: There has been a second aircraft carrier strike group, the

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Speaker 1: who's on the right when it comes to Senate procedure.

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Speaker 1: And there's been this whole debate about the Save America Act,

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Speaker 1: which is the update version of the Save Act, this

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Speaker 1: voter id proof of citizenship legislation introduced by Ship Roy

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Speaker 1: in the House, michae Lee and the Senate. And it's

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Speaker 1: this whole debate Rachel, as to whether in our republican

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Speaker 1: should nuke the filibuster. But if I under saying correctly,

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Speaker 1: that's something of a false choice. So can you kind

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Speaker 1: of just explain the broad debate in the context and

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Speaker 1: kind of give us the real version of the store here? Sure?

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Speaker 4: Well, this Senate provides two ways to break a filibuster,

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Speaker 4: And I think this is a little bit unknown, but

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Speaker 4: everybody's very familiar with the cloture vote, which is the

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Speaker 4: sixty votes that break a filibuster that allow you to

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Speaker 4: move to final passage on a bill at simple majority.

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Speaker 4: That's the one everybody knows. But the other way to

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Speaker 4: break a filibuster in the Senate, which has been a

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Speaker 4: part of the Senate's rule since its inception, is by

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Speaker 4: physical exhaustion, by forcing the filibustering party to stand and

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Speaker 4: talk until they cannot speak anymore, either because they've worn

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Speaker 4: themselves out entirely, or by application of the Senate's two

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Speaker 4: speech rule, which says that you only get two speeches

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Speaker 4: per legislative matter per legislative day. So once you've exhausted

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Speaker 4: those speeches, then you put the question at simple majority.

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Speaker 4: So you either do it you get simple majority. At

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Speaker 4: the end of either process, you either get sixty votes

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Speaker 4: for cloture first, or you break a filibuster through exhaustion.

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Speaker 4: And so when everyone's talking about the standing filibuster or

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Speaker 4: the talking filibuster, they're referring to this sort of old

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Speaker 4: fashioned way of breaking a filibuster, which has been part

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Speaker 4: of the Senate's rules since its inception. The sixty vote requirement,

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Speaker 4: which again which is what most people are familiar with,

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Speaker 4: wasn't actually part of the Senate's rules until nineteen seventeen.

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Speaker 4: And so this is the way that the Senate broke

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Speaker 4: filibusters all the way up until then, and sometimes even

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Speaker 4: after then. You know, people may remember the famous talking

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Speaker 4: filibusters of the twentieth century. Probably the most famous was

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Speaker 4: the Civil Rights Act of nineteen sixty four which passed

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Speaker 4: in this similar way.

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Speaker 1: Rachel Bilward again, folks with the VP of Programs at

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Speaker 1: CPI follow her on x at Rachel Beauvart. Just to

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Speaker 1: bring this home, I think we're talking here really about

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Speaker 1: those old kind of grainy black and white footage of

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Stewart and mister Smith goes to Washington way back

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Speaker 1: in the day. Right as you could correctly mentioned, nineteen

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Speaker 1: sixties became known for this with the Stromp Thurtman civil

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Speaker 1: rights filibusters. So why is this not penetrating? Why are

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Speaker 1: people not entertaining this idea seriously? I see sender, Mike,

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Speaker 1: your form boss is pushing for it be taken seriously,

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Speaker 1: but there seemed to not be a whole lot of

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Speaker 1: takers in the Republican savi isiolti since essentially force the

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Speaker 1: Democrats to do this filibuster. And just for additional context here,

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Speaker 1: I think it's important to emphasize that on the underlying

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Speaker 1: substance of this legislation here talking about proof of citizenship

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Speaker 1: to register to vote, voter ID to actually vote on

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Speaker 1: voting day, this is a wildly popular issue, extraordinarily popular.

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Speaker 1: Democrats actually support voter ID by at least a seventy

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Speaker 1: three margin in some polts is actually even higher there. So, Rachel,

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Speaker 1: I guess over to you, why is there such resistance

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Speaker 1: to forcing Chuck Schumer the Democrats to actually literally filibuster

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Speaker 1: in the name of what's at least a seventy five

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Speaker 1: to twenty five eighty twenty issue.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we talk a lot about eighty twenty issues, but

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Speaker 4: this actually is one. It's shocking, like it actually is

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Speaker 4: an eighty three percent issue among the electorate. But I

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Speaker 4: think the reason there's such resistance of doing it on

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Speaker 4: Capitol Hill it's really two things. One, there's a little

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Speaker 4: bit of this like misinformation and misunderstanding that you referenced

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Speaker 4: at the beginning. People say, oh, well, isn't this nuking

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Speaker 4: the filibuster.

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Speaker 1: No, it's not.

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Speaker 4: You don't have to change any Senate rules to do this.

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Speaker 4: This has been part of the Senate tradition for two

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Speaker 4: hundred years. But two and this is not to be undersold.

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Speaker 4: It's hard, right, Like people are talking about this as

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Speaker 4: a strategy. It is difficult. It requires skill, it requires

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Speaker 4: physical exertion, and it takes time. And that is just

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Speaker 4: something if you watch the modern Senate that you know,

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Speaker 4: they're just not that interested in putting in a lot

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Speaker 4: of effort in sort of the old fashioned way. If

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Speaker 4: you look at the modern Senate schedule, they work two

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Speaker 4: and a half days a week. You know, they come

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Speaker 4: in Monday night, they leave Thursday at noon. Everything is

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Speaker 4: sort of scheduled, pre baked.

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Speaker 2: This is not that.

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Speaker 4: This is we are in session, you know, potentially seven

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Speaker 4: days a week, you know, could be through the night.

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Speaker 4: Votes are unpredictable. You have to stand there, you know,

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Speaker 4: and respond to a live quorum when it's called. You

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Speaker 4: don't know when it's coming. So it requires a level

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Speaker 4: of physical commitment that senators are really you haven't seen

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Speaker 4: them undertake this level of commitment in decades, if not longer,

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Speaker 4: And so this is just it's an uphill clime to

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Speaker 4: convince them that it's worth doing this. Skipping your fundraiser, right,

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Speaker 4: Is this is worth doing that?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: You know, I think you'll probably get a nice chucklout

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Speaker 1: of this. Rachel. I remember when I was starting law

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Speaker 1: school at University of Chicago back in September twenty thirteen.

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Speaker 1: It was orientation week and there was some really boring

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Speaker 1: administrative bureaucratic A ten class don't be late kind of

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Speaker 1: thing going on, And I was literally live streaming Ted

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Speaker 1: Cruz's filibuster of Obamacare, like in the third or fourth

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Speaker 1: throw at the time, which is kind of my telltale

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Speaker 1: lawyer threst in my life, was intending to go into

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Speaker 1: perhaps more interesting pursuits. But in any event, what's your

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Speaker 1: guest as to how this plays out when it comes

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Speaker 1: to the Save America? Is it going to pass? Is

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Speaker 1: it going to be a filibuster? Reconciliation is a possibility,

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Speaker 1: but I'm hearing that that's not going to be a

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Speaker 1: reconciliation package. When don't we start there on the worker

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Speaker 1: way back? What are you hearing on the reconciliation front?

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Speaker 1: There's this rumor that there's not going to be a

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Speaker 1: second reconciliation bill. Potentially is that going to happen and

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Speaker 1: if so, is it possibly a vehicle for that kind

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Speaker 1: of just prognosticated people.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there's been there's factions within Republicans on the hill

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Speaker 4: definitely pushing for a second reconciliation bill. And for those unfamiliar,

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Speaker 4: this is the budget reconciliation process passes at fifty one votes.

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Speaker 4: It's a privileged vehicle actually, like a standing filibuster. It

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Speaker 4: has endless amendments, but it can pass at fifty one votes.

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Speaker 4: The President has vitaed that or not technically, but he

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Speaker 4: said I don't necessarily know if we want a second

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Speaker 4: reconciliation package. So there's a little bit of gray area.

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Speaker 4: The Hill could still decide to send him one. But

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Speaker 4: and whether or not that that architecture has started being

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Speaker 4: put together, I think people have started working on it,

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Speaker 4: but there's no clear path for it, so it's unknown

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Speaker 4: I think at this point if that's going to happen.

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Speaker 4: But when it comes to the Save America Act. You

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Speaker 4: know what's fascinating about this is, as you point out,

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Speaker 4: it's a hugely popular issue, not just among the Republican base,

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Speaker 4: but even among some Democrats. And you know, John Thune,

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Speaker 4: the majority leader of Senate Republicans, has really resisted this

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Speaker 4: talking filibuster issue. However, he has said in the last

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Speaker 4: two days, well, the Save America Act is going to

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Speaker 4: get a vote, which says to me that he's going

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Speaker 4: to do what we call failure theater, right, He's going

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Speaker 4: to put it on the floor. He's going to file cloture.

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Speaker 4: He'll say, look, we're having a vote, knowing that it's

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Speaker 4: not going to get the sixty votes required. And then

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Speaker 4: I'll say, well, I did what you asked. We couldn't

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Speaker 4: do it, darn it. We'll just move on to passing

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Speaker 4: Russian sanctions or whatever it is that's next on their agenda.

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Speaker 4: So if you had to, if I had to put it,

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Speaker 4: what's likely to happen.

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Speaker 1: Is probably that fair enough? And I guess we shall

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Speaker 1: see again both. Rachel Bouvart is VP of Programs at

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Speaker 1: the Conservative Partnershamts do follow her on ex at Rachel Beauvart. Rachel,

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Speaker 1: at least one more question, if I may so. You

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Speaker 1: and I are are semi veterans to full on veterans

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Speaker 1: of the anti big tech fights over the years, and

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Speaker 1: as veterans of that fight, you and I have bump

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Speaker 1: shoulders and at times more than bump shoulders with Brendan Carr,

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Speaker 1: the current Commissioner of the FCC, who was a wonderful man.

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Speaker 1: We were just talking about him earlier in the show.

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Speaker 1: I think extremely highly a Brendan Carr. He's very much

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Speaker 1: in the news for seeking to enforce the law. That's

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Speaker 1: my basic legal take on the matter. He's getting a

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Speaker 1: lot of blowback. First it was from Jimmy Kimmel and

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Speaker 1: his apologist, now is from Stephen Colbert and his apologists. There,

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Speaker 1: what is your base of take as to this tempest

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Speaker 1: in a teapot when it comes to the equal time

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Speaker 1: enforcement rule and what is the source of so much

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Speaker 1: misunderstanding on this particular front.

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Speaker 4: Well, it's interesting because to your point, he enforced the law.

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Speaker 4: When Colbert, who was apparently warned, you know, by his

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Speaker 4: bosses that if you give one candidate in this Texas

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Speaker 4: race time, you have to give another candidate, he ignored it.

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Speaker 4: The person that's being disadvantaged the most here is Jasmine Crockett,

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Speaker 4: which is which is very funny, and Democrats have sort

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Speaker 4: of invented this, you know, lie that somehow Brendan Carr

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Speaker 4: is interfering and trying to keep Democrats from speaking or this,

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Speaker 4: and that he's actually defending the rights of Jasmine Crockett.

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Speaker 4: He's impartially enforcing the law as it stands under the

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Speaker 4: equal time rule, and he's getting a ton of blowback.

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Speaker 4: This is a you know, trying to be charitable. They

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Speaker 4: are just making it up, right, like this is what

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Speaker 4: the law says. And I don't know that you can

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Speaker 4: argue with that. This is what's they're always asking to

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Speaker 4: be done. Known is above the law? Well, this is

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Speaker 4: what you're seeing it right now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really astounding. No one is above the law.

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Speaker 1: And frankly, another obvious take here thing is that if

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Speaker 1: you don't like the law, that the proper remedy is

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Speaker 1: not to moan about. The proper remedy is.

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Speaker 4: To change it.

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Speaker 1: To change it exactly. You lopy Congress, you try to

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Speaker 1: get in touch with with your representatives, with with your

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Speaker 1: K Street lobby. Is there the first woman allows you

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Speaker 1: to petition for grievances? Right, I mean, there's all these

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Speaker 1: wonderful things here. But alas, this is too sophisticated and

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Speaker 1: perhaps too much ripe. Kind of took villain Americans to make.

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Speaker 1: It's much easier to make things up as you and

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Speaker 1: I ve veterans of this space and know very well. Again, folks,

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Speaker 1: Rachel Bolevard is the VP of Programs at CPI follow

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Speaker 1: her on x at. Rachel Boulevard a genuine well spring

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Speaker 1: of knowledge, as you can tell. Rachel. Wishing you a

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Speaker 1: very blessed ash Wednesday, fast. Great to see you, my friend.

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Speaker 1: Stop by against soon if you will. Thanks so much, Josh,

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Speaker 1: you bet God bless and coming up on other side

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Speaker 1: of the break, folks. Much more on everything happening out there.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot happening in the news. Stay with us

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Speaker 1: for an update on Goldman, Sachs and DEI. Actually, you're

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Speaker 1: probably not going to plead this. Stay with us. We'll

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Speaker 1: be right back after the break. Welcome back. DEI is

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Speaker 1: always the news, seemingly. DEI is the tip of the

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Speaker 1: spear of critical theory. Critical theory which really came to

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Speaker 1: prominence here in the United States in the nineteen sixties

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Speaker 1: with the rise of the Frankfurt School. These horrific, these

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Speaker 1: horrific ultra ultra left wing neo Marxist political theorists, primarily

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Speaker 1: as the name and apply from Frankfurt, Germany, who came

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Speaker 1: Theodore Ordorno, who are just some of the leading proponents

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Speaker 1: back in the sixties of critical theory. In fact, are

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Speaker 1: Palk Chris rufo who has been one of the foremost

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Speaker 1: agitators against the DEI dispensation. Chris Rufoer wrote a whole

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Speaker 1: book a couple of years ago. We actually interviewed him

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Speaker 1: about that at the time here on the Josh Shammer Show.

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Speaker 1: Chris rufo wrote a book talking about the rise of

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Speaker 1: the Frankfurt School and its cultural Marxism downstream that very

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Speaker 1: much continues to this day, seen most clearly the presidencies

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Speaker 1: in the news, alpe it it's less than news because

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump has been waging something of a full fledged

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Speaker 1: war against DEI, to his tremendous credit. That is, in

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Speaker 1: the opening days and opening weeks of this second Trump administration,

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Speaker 1: I called it the single most important executive order that

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Speaker 1: executive order that Donald Trump has ever signed. He said

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Speaker 1: that so called DEI, by which we mean explicitly prioritizing

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Speaker 1: certain race, ethnicity, gender, sexual rotation, certain traits, explicitly prioritizing

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Speaker 1: some at the expense of others. He said that this

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Speaker 1: would be viewed as illegal for purposes of these Civil

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Speaker 1: Rights Act of ninety sixty four, which common sensibly, very

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Speaker 1: clearly says that it can't discriminate on the basis of race, ethnicity, sex,

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Speaker 1: and so forth. It should seem obvious. Unfortunately, for a

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Speaker 1: why for much of the past year, because it is

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Speaker 1: so astylingly obvious, because also the polling increasing indicates that

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Speaker 1: there is very little support for the less aggressive aggressive

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Speaker 1: immutable trade lines of race and sex and gender nationality,

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Speaker 1: so idiotic and immoralized face, and because it now also

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Speaker 1: is very clearly deemed to be illegal by the people

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Speaker 1: in charge. Because of all the above, we've seen many

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Speaker 1: corporations over the past year that have started to drop

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Speaker 1: like flies when it comes to essentially deep sixingdi from

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Speaker 1: their agenda. So reports to the Wall Street Journal, this

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Speaker 1: is just a delectable story of the Wall Street Journal

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Speaker 1: reporting earlier this week that Goldman Sachs, one of the

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Speaker 1: most iconic Wall Street banks of them all and historically

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Speaker 1: very liberal leaning bank. Lloyd Blankfine, the former CEO Goldman Sacks,

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Speaker 1: a very prominent Democrat, major Democrat donor, was known to

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Speaker 1: be quite chummy with Barack Obama and the Obama mestration.

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Speaker 1: Goldman Sacks has now dropped its commitment to support diversity

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Speaker 1: for its own board for its own corporate board members.

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Speaker 1: So the Goldman Sachs Board's governance committee historically has has

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Speaker 1: found qualified candidates for ports Walter Journal based primarily on

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Speaker 1: four factors. One of those four factors is a broad

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Speaker 1: description of diversity including viewpoints, backgrounds, work, and military service.

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Speaker 1: In addition to quote unquote other demographics that catchall phrase

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Speaker 1: other demographics includes a list of dei factors. So the

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Speaker 1: update for you is that Goldman Sacks is now crossing

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Speaker 1: off that they catch all critical theory inspired other demographics

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Speaker 1: subcategory from its criteria to get on the board. So

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Speaker 1: but another way, gomenzaks A last says they will not

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Speaker 1: be discriminating against white people, Asian people, Christians, Jews, Mormons, etcetera.

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Speaker 1: Any of the folks who find themselves on the wrong

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Speaker 1: side of the neo Marxist woke dichotomy of the oppressors

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Speaker 1: versus the oppressed. Now it's worth noting as well that

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Speaker 1: Goldman Sachs actually already already had scrapped diversity requirements from

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Speaker 1: its clients. So golmansa AX is an investment banker. One

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Speaker 3: There.

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Speaker 1: They had already been distancing themselves from an emphasis on

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Speaker 1: DII in terms of their clients. Now the big headline

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Speaker 1: I can't quite emphasize just how symbolic Goldman Sachs is

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Speaker 1: as a firm. They're not the nation's largest bank or

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Speaker 1: anything that would be.

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Speaker 2: JP.

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Speaker 1: Morgan Chase Bank of America is up there well far ago.

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Speaker 1: Goldman Sachs is somewhere further down, primarily because they're largely

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Speaker 1: commercial and investment banking, not necessarily just just private loans

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Speaker 1: a little bit of that these days as well. But again,

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Speaker 1: like many other in Wall Street, they're starting to see

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Speaker 1: the tide. Wall Street historically does not necessarily place a

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Speaker 1: ton of wrong wagers when it comes to politics. After all,

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Speaker 1: these are people who are literally their profession is trying

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Speaker 1: to prognosticate and to bet on political and financial markets,

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Speaker 1: just markets in general. They're good or reading the markets,

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Speaker 1: They're good or reading the tea leaves, is really what

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to say here. So if a company like

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Speaker 1: Golden Sacks, which historically has been a very liberal Democrats

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Speaker 1: pulling back from d I that they're not going to

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Speaker 1: when it comes to the future of DEI. More generally speaking,

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Speaker 1: I want to emphasize this, We are winning on DEI.

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Speaker 1: We have been winning on DEI thanks in no small

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Speaker 1: part to the work of some leading activists. We mentioned

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Speaker 1: Chris Rufe already, Robbie starbuck Ham on the show a

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Speaker 1: couple months ago. Robbie has been an amazing, amazing activist

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Speaker 1: crusader when it comes to trying to end wokeism in

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Speaker 1: corporate America. But ultimately the reason that we are winning

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Speaker 1: on the DI issue is because the truth has a

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Speaker 1: stubborn tendency to prevail in the long term, and the

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Speaker 1: truth is on our side. The truth is clear. This summer,

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Speaker 1: this nation will celebrate two to fifty years since designing

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Speaker 1: up the Decoration Independence, where we said that we hold

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Speaker 1: these truths be self evident, that all men who create equal,

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Speaker 1: not that all men are superior inferior based on their race, sex, nationality,

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Speaker 1: sexual orientation, etc. Et cetera, et cetera. So the truth

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Speaker 1: is on our side, the politics are on our side,

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Speaker 1: the pollings on our side, the laws on our side.

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Speaker 1: We are winning on the DI issued gold. Missaxe is

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Speaker 1: yet the latest example of that. Speaking of the does

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Speaker 1: a client of the WO agenda, I want to just

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Speaker 1: turn my attention now briefly to the Olympics. So I'm

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Speaker 1: a big sports fan, as you likely know if you're

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Speaker 1: a big listener or viewer of the show. I just

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Speaker 1: love sports. I've been a huge sports in my entire life,

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Speaker 1: and I get very excited for the Olympics every I

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Speaker 1: guess every two years summer winter in a two year

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Speaker 1: off cycle repeating pattern. I can't remember more about the

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Speaker 1: summer Games than the Winter Games. I've been watching a

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Speaker 1: controversy about Eileen Gou, who is this American born skier

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Speaker 1: who is choosing to compete for the second Olympics in

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Speaker 1: a row for China. She has to compete with China

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Speaker 1: back in twenty twenty two when the Olympics that you

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Speaker 1: were in Beijing, probably even more controversial then. And she's

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Speaker 1: lot of frankly, very well deserved heat for doing this.

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Speaker 1: There for not just abandoning her country when it comes

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Speaker 1: to international athletic competation, but abandoning her country for its

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Speaker 1: arch geopolitical rival, for a country spies on us, since

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Speaker 1: spy balloons, that starts global diseases like COVID, that steals

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Speaker 1: her intellectual property, that rips us off when it comes

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Speaker 1: to terrorists manufacturing a horrible actor, the worst out there

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Speaker 1: on the world stage. And again she's getting a lot

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Speaker 1: of stuff, a lot of craft for this, not not

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Speaker 1: just from the conservative podcast here, but also actually from

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Speaker 1: Enis Cantor, the former NBA player in Turkish Distant. Here's

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Speaker 1: Enis Cantor lashing out. Eileen Goo is a traitor.

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Speaker 3: You know, she was born in America, she raised in America,

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Speaker 3: lives in America, and choose to compete against her own

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Speaker 3: country for the literally the worst human rights you know

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Speaker 3: abus her on the planet China. You know, she built

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Speaker 3: her fame in a free country and then choose to

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Speaker 3: represent an authoritarian regime which you know, while chasing and

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Speaker 3: you know, endorsement deals, you know, linked by watching dog

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Speaker 3: groups and massive detention and force labor camps.

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Speaker 1: So good for Nis Canter, Canada. They're speaking with laur

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Speaker 1: and Gram on Fox News. Look, I am not an Olympian,

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Speaker 1: if you haven't noticed. If I were, I would obviously

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Speaker 1: represent the United States America. Maybe maybe maybe in certain instances.

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Speaker 1: America obviously has a lot of people. We are very

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Speaker 1: good at sports. If you can't qualify for America, maybe

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Speaker 1: maybe you try to represents your ancestral country. But can

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Speaker 1: we at least stipulate that you don't do it for China? China,

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Speaker 1: as Don Trump will call it the worst of the worst.

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Speaker 1: They tip of the spear or the axis of all

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Speaker 1: the nations that oppose the United States of America in

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Speaker 1: each and everything that we do. They hate us. Look,

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying that that Aileen Goo should I have

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Speaker 1: her citizenship stripped, but I will throw it out there

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Speaker 1: as saying that, at a bare minimum she should have

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Speaker 1: face some pretty severe repercussions when it comes to this

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Speaker 1: outright decision. There she is, as Edan Kenner says, a

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Speaker 1: trader to her country. Folks, hockey droids say, show Josh

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Speaker 1: Hammer signing off of a great rest of the evening.

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Speaker 1: We'll be right back here tomorrow. The Josh hamber Shaw

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Speaker 1: is a member of the Trust Project.