1 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: My name is Charlie Kirk. 2 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 2: I run the largest pro American student organization in the country, 3 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 2: fighting for the future of our republic. My call is 4 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 2: to fight evil and to proclaim truth. If the most 5 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 2: important thing for you is just feeling good, you're gonna 6 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 2: end up miserable. But if the most important thing is 7 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 2: doing good, you'll end up purposeful. College is a scam, everybody. 8 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 2: You got to stop sending your kids to college. You 9 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 2: should get married as young as possible and have as 10 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:32,199 Speaker 2: many kids as possible. 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And I just want to say welcome 30 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 3: Mikey McCoy. 31 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 4: I'm just glad to be here. 32 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:34,119 Speaker 3: I'm happy to be I'm just happy to be here too. 33 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 3: I've been I've been traveling this week and I was 34 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:38,759 Speaker 3: under the weather. Just happy to just happy. 35 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 4: It's the best feeling when you find out when you. 36 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 3: Get I was so exhausted last night. You can probably 37 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:46,039 Speaker 3: still hear it in my voice. Anyways, I wanted get 38 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 3: two quick notes before we get to questions here. One 39 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 3: is that Karen Taylor Robeson has dropped out of the 40 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 3: gubernatorial primary on the Republican side here in Arizona. 41 00:01:57,880 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 4: Yes, okay, I was like, can I collap with that? 42 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 3: She actually she she put out a very nice note 43 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 3: basically saying that you know, she made this very difficult 44 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 3: decision because we didn't want to have inviting on the 45 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 3: conservative side, and then we need to unite and win 46 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 3: and that was it was very gracious. I think she's 47 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 3: gonna score a lot of points with the conservative base 48 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 3: in Arizona and certainly with us at Turning Point. So 49 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:24,920 Speaker 3: that's exciting because we didn't know that was coming. But 50 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 3: Andy Biggs is now has a clear primary path and 51 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 3: that's exciting because he's going to be the next governor 52 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 3: of the state of Arizona, something Charlie was very focused 53 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 3: on and we are going to remain very focused on 54 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 3: as well. Got to take care of Katie. Oh, you 55 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 3: know what, this is fun. So we have this great image. 56 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 3: I have to show it. It is in let me 57 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 3: find it. It's what number is it? 58 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: Guys? 59 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 3: The they put out basically Katie Hobbs put out a 60 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 3: note here it is basically an email after this happened, 61 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 3: saying that she is now up against Katie's billionaire opponent 62 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 3: just dropped out, making Donald Trump and Turning Point Actions 63 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 3: hand pick candidate Andy Biggs the front runner in the 64 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 3: Republican primary. 65 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 1: That is great. 66 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:09,079 Speaker 3: I mean, thank you for the advertisement, Katie Hobbs, thank 67 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 3: you for the for the press release. And I guess 68 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 3: this is just multiple multiple emails talking about Turning Point 69 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 3: Action and how she's up against us. Okay, you know, 70 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:22,519 Speaker 3: how about your up against the voters, the conservative voters that. 71 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 1: Want you out. But anyway, so that's fun. 72 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 3: And then the second thing is we got inflation numbers 73 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 3: back today. They came in better than expected. It was 74 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 3: predicted to be at two point seven percent. Inflation came 75 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 3: in at two point four two point four, So very 76 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 3: very good stuff. There, we have our first question. It 77 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 3: sounds like Kelsey, Kelsey, Welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. 78 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 3: Unmute yourself if you can. 79 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 5: Hi, guys, thank you for taking Michael. So many of 80 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 5: us know that famous I think it's pronounced hop quote. 81 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 5: Good times create week men. Week men create hard times. 82 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 5: Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. 83 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 5: Charlie talked a lot about God's designs of distinctions, especially 84 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 5: male female, and in our overly feminized culture that caters 85 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 5: and creators to women's demands for comfort and sensitivity. I've 86 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 5: been wondering if there's like a parallel hop inspired quote 87 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 5: but for women, and would love maybe your thoughts and 88 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 5: ideas on that. 89 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 4: All right, make one up. 90 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:25,840 Speaker 6: I'd have to make it. So hop is. Unfortunately he's 91 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:28,280 Speaker 6: not a philosopher. He's actually he's a science fiction author. 92 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: I was. 93 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 6: I was actually very surprised to find that out that 94 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 6: it sounds like a very old quote like that would 95 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 6: be classic. And it's from a twenty sixteen novel that G. 96 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 6: Michael Hopp wrote. Uh so I actually now have his 97 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 6: quotes paigeofun on Goodreads to see if there's anything else. 98 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:46,160 Speaker 6: There's other It's very funny some of the other quotes 99 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 6: they have. 100 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 7: One of them is just Faraday boxes, which is probably 101 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 7: not a quote that she's looking for. 102 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 6: But big picture, let's try to think on that, like I. 103 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 3: Was, you know, Sue, we think of was we just 104 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 3: her on Helen Andrews, Yeah, which she's talking about over 105 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:06,480 Speaker 3: feminized culture and basically how we hit a tipping point 106 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:10,559 Speaker 3: at some point between twenty fifteen and let's say twenty 107 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 3: twenty two in different industries that became majority female and 108 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:18,159 Speaker 3: then and then the train goes off the right. 109 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 6: I'm trying to think, is there is there a kind 110 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:24,359 Speaker 6: of cyclical quote you could come up with for women? 111 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 6: I almost want to throw that at you, Kelsey, if 112 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 6: you have any thoughts that come to mind. 113 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 1: Big families create strong women. 114 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:35,359 Speaker 6: The strong women find big families annoying, so their daughters 115 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 6: have small small families. 116 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:40,600 Speaker 3: Small families create feminists. Feminists destroy the country. 117 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:41,600 Speaker 1: I don't know. 118 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:46,040 Speaker 7: Something like that chat tbt, oh dear, Hard times create 119 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 7: resilient women. Resilient women build strong families. It's basically what 120 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 7: you guys said. It is great, but then strong families 121 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 7: indulge weak women. 122 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 6: I don't know, because you have to have the cycle 123 00:05:57,920 --> 00:05:59,280 Speaker 6: to it has to circle back. 124 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 1: That's an interesting question. 125 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 6: I mean what I would think of whatever you were 126 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 6: going to come up with, you think of what are 127 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 6: core themes with women, like women are more nurturing, and 128 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:11,840 Speaker 6: also what Charlie would talk about that women are very 129 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:15,600 Speaker 6: much a norm enforcer group. They're often the people who 130 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 6: uphold the rules of society. And so that's one reason 131 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 6: we've seen feminism drive a lot of things. 132 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 7: Haywire women. Young women are fed a bad life script. 133 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:29,720 Speaker 7: It makes them unhappy. It also encourages them to enforce 134 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 7: really bad rules on people. It's the school marm or 135 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 7: the church lady. 136 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 6: That's the idiom they'll use, even for a woman who 137 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:39,599 Speaker 6: hasn't been to church in her entire life or since 138 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 6: she was a kid. The ones who are showing up 139 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:45,799 Speaker 6: to scream at you, to nag you, to say like, oh, 140 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 6: you have to care, you have to have the BLM square, 141 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 6: you have to support trans kids. Or the people who 142 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:55,159 Speaker 6: are showing up to block ice cars. Those are people who, 143 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 6: in a different context, if they were raised with a 144 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 6: better script, they might be saying, oh, oh you can't. 145 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 6: You can't cheat on your spouse, like you're you're living 146 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:05,280 Speaker 6: with your mistress. You're not allowed to do drinking too, 147 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 6: stop drinking so much. That could be really annoying too. 148 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 6: But it was for a pro social, a good thing, 149 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 6: whereas now they're activated on an evil thing. And so 150 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 6: I think if you were gonna get the equivalent quote 151 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 6: whatever it is, you'd have to capture that elemental things. 152 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 3: And Charlie yeah, Charlie also wrote broke down the difference 153 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 3: between the macro and the micro right. Women really tend 154 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 3: to major on the micro, which would would be sort 155 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 3: of interpersonal relationships, and men tend to think about, you know, 156 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 3: business deals and negotiations. It's not that they don't work 157 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 3: both ways or that you know, men men oftentimes will 158 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 3: fixate on relationships too, but it just in the general, 159 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 3: in the in the larger context that tends to be 160 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 3: more true than not. And we'd also talk about how 161 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 3: we need to have a proper balance of the masculine effeminine. 162 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 3: So a healthy society has a proper balance of masculine feminine, 163 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 3: and men are given a role which they can thrive in. 164 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 3: Women are given a role in which they can thrive in. 165 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 3: And when you get on an unhealthy balance, and this 166 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 3: is what Helen Andrews is talking about. 167 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 6: We have a clip from her. If we want to, yeah, 168 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 6: let's do it. Let's play five seventy one. 169 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 8: But if you want to put it in a single sentence, 170 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 8: you could say that feminization equals wokeness. Everything you think 171 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 8: of as wokeness is simply an epiphenomenon of demographic feminization. 172 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 8: Think about all the things that wokeness means. Valuing empathy 173 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 8: over rationality, safety over risk, conformity and cohesion over competition, 174 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:42,319 Speaker 8: and hierarchy. All of these things are privileging the feminine 175 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 8: over the masculine. So if you have ever wondered why 176 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 8: wokeness appeared out of nowhere when it did, that is 177 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 8: my hypothesis that all of the institutions that began admitting 178 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 8: women in the nineteen seventies eventually got enough women that 179 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 8: they were able to reorient them. 180 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 6: And it's as you said, it's balance that matters. So 181 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 6: those things like empathy over rationality or safety over risk, 182 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 6: that's not actually just a bad thing necessarily. But you 183 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 6: think of where would be an environment where you would 184 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 6: want to, for example, prize cohesion over competition. Where would 185 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 6: you want inclusion over free speech? I can think of 186 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 6: an obvious spot in a family. In a family, you 187 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 6: sometimes have to say you just need to be quiet 188 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 6: because you're upsetting all of your siblings. In a family, 189 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 6: we need safety. We're not recklessly doing dangerous things. In 190 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 6: a family, sometimes we're not fully rational. We have to 191 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 6: care about loving each other above everything that works in 192 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:38,319 Speaker 6: a family, and you need to cultivate that. But it's 193 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 6: out of balance. Yeah, it's out of balance. If your 194 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 6: big institutions of society are that, because all of society 195 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 6: is not the family. 196 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 3: We'll think about the military. You would basically flip all 197 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 3: of those. You would want rationality over empathy, you would 198 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:54,839 Speaker 3: want risk over safety. Well maybe most of the time, 199 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:58,199 Speaker 3: but you have to take risks in wartime. You'd want competition, 200 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 3: you would want you would value, the best, getting to 201 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:05,719 Speaker 3: the top, the most lethal, the most courageous. 202 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 6: In business, You're not going to innovate if your priority 203 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 6: is just inclusion over free speech. 204 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 1: Hmm. Absolutely. 205 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 3: Every day Americans make choices that shape our country's future, 206 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 3: right down to which cell phone provider we support. Here's 207 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 3: what most people don't realize. Patriot Mobile isn't just a 208 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 3: wireless provider. They're an activist organization funded by selling top 209 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 3: tier cell phone service. 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So my shot is like I was thinking of, 229 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 5: you know, Charlie loves scripture. He was amazing at it, 230 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 5: you know, knowing it. And so like when I think of, okay, 231 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 5: great woman and not so a great woman. You've got 232 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 5: your Proverbs thirty one woman, you know, the the noble 233 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:46,320 Speaker 5: woman who's who cares for her family, she's business oriented, 234 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 5: all those good things. And then I think of the 235 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 5: two Timothy three women who's like very influenced by the 236 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 5: evil of the day. And it says like the evil 237 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 5: people gain control over weak willed women who are load 238 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 5: it down with sins and swayed by evil desires, always 239 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 5: learning but never able to acknowledge the truth. Dang. So 240 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 5: maybe like peaceful times create week willed women. Weak willed 241 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 5: women create hard times. Hard times create noble women. Noble 242 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 5: time create peaceful times. 243 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:21,839 Speaker 1: No wow, could Roberts thirty one women. That was great. 244 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:23,559 Speaker 4: Andrew's gonna tweet that. 245 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 7: I man, I always learning, but never willing to acknowledge 246 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 7: the truth thinking of the you know when you get 247 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 7: a little too many grad degrees. 248 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:36,959 Speaker 3: I mean, listen, I have like fourteen examples in my 249 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:40,320 Speaker 3: mind as soon as you started talking about that. Yeah, 250 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 3: well listen, that was well done. And so thank you 251 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 3: for that, and thank you for calling in. And I 252 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 3: think we have Anthony next. Anthony, welcome back to the 253 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:50,679 Speaker 3: Show's up. 254 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 6: Guys, how a man, you're becoming quite the regular. 255 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:57,199 Speaker 9: Yeah, I noticed it myself, actually, Blake as I'm swamp 256 00:12:57,280 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 9: to work today. 257 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 6: Any of subscribers could be a regular. By the way, like, 258 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:03,079 Speaker 6: we have a lot of you, but and we have 259 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 6: a lot of you. We know we have a bunch 260 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 6: of you in the call, but a lot of them. 261 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 6: Don't necessarily raise your hand. To raise your hand. 262 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 1: Ask the questions you can ask us, be like Anthony, 263 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 1: you can ask You could ask. 264 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 6: Me what my favorite teenage mutantninj Turnal is if you 265 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 6: wanted to. 266 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:20,439 Speaker 9: Yeah, we're gonna pass in that one black. 267 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 1: So here's my. 268 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 9: So, here's my question, guys. We see two styles of 269 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:31,839 Speaker 9: the GOP party. We have the old regime and it 270 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:34,319 Speaker 9: even goes down into the local communities, and we have 271 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 9: the new style. So I went to my county's GOP meeting, 272 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 9: this oric committee meeting to uh pick our who's run 273 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 9: for office for local elections in Congress and state and stuff. 274 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 9: It's all the same old cronies. I'm sorry to use 275 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 9: that term, but it's it's they. And what I saw 276 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 9: is I asked someone who I know they're very well, 277 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 9: if any of these people will win. Any answer I 278 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:01,320 Speaker 9: was told was no, because they don't want to change 279 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:04,439 Speaker 9: the way they do stuff, and they just keep recycling 280 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 9: the same style of campaign and whatnot. Like the communications 281 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:13,199 Speaker 9: person for our thing, they sat on the stage and 282 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 9: took photos from behind when people were giving their speeches, saying, hey, 283 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 9: thank you for picking me to be your nominee. How 284 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 9: do we fix this because it's. 285 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 3: Never any Are you talking about like local positions within 286 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 3: the county GOP or something like that. 287 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 9: Yeah, but we So my county is also a district 288 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 9: for Congress, Okay, so we had to nominate our person 289 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 9: that's going to go against the Democrat candidate. So it's 290 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 9: District twenty five. So even that we had to do 291 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 9: that one plus because New York States changed the elections 292 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 9: to now everything's on the federal years for every election, 293 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 9: it doesn't matter what it is. So like, how do 294 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 9: you get the old party to start letting the new 295 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 9: party come in the work things to make it better 296 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 9: to try to win. 297 00:14:57,640 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, this is a huge problem. I've talked 298 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 3: about this with Tyler Boyer a lot. So if you 299 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 3: go to like a local county GOP, you will you 300 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 3: will come in and there's there's people that have been 301 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 3: there for years, like decades, and these guys have never 302 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 3: missed a meeting. They're usually you know, kind of your 303 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 3: gray hairs, and uh, this is kind of what they 304 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 3: live for. And what we've noticed is that when younger 305 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 3: people come into these meetings and they feel, i mean, 306 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 3: there are very it's like high school. It's like you 307 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 3: got mean girls, you got clicks, you got like everybody 308 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 3: hates one faction versus the other faction. 309 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 6: I want to agree. A great example is the Nebraska 310 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 6: legislature when we were trying to get the winter take 311 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 6: off and it was just such Charlie was was venting 312 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 6: about this that you get people who when you're almost 313 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 6: when you're in a system that has existed. It's like 314 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 6: a little closed off from everyone, like who's going into 315 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 6: Nebraska politics usually, so it shortens your time horizon. It 316 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 6: shortens your like horizon. Basically, you stop looking at the 317 00:15:57,120 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 6: national picture, you stop looking at big trends, and start 318 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 6: fixating on Oh, I've known the same people for a 319 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 6: long time. I have my grievances with this person. I'm 320 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 6: friends with this person, often for reasons that aren't what 321 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 6: would normally drive political alliance is very personal and you 322 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 6: get really homed in on that, and that can happen 323 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 6: at your county GOP level. Oh, I'm with this person 324 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 6: because I feuded with this person over who was running 325 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 6: for county. 326 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 1: No, No, it's even like who is who is a treasurer? 327 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 3: Or like you know, how we're gonna how we're gonna 328 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 3: do like tabling or sign ups for I mean, the 329 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 3: most petty stuff I've seen at the local GOP level. 330 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 1: It's really sad. 331 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 3: And then young people come in and they feel completely alienated. 332 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 3: They don't want anything to do with it because it 333 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 3: feels like a completely like different world and it feels 334 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 3: unrelated to current events. 335 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 7: Yeah, that's the biggest thing too that I've seen is 336 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 7: young people. It's like you brought up the Nebraska thing, 337 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 7: Charlie's this young guy. He comes in trying to push 338 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 7: the winner take all narrative and Nebraska and change what 339 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 7: has been Nebraska's you know normal, don't it this way? 340 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 7: And there was literally one guy. I won't forget this, Blake, 341 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:06,119 Speaker 7: Do you remember this. There's one guy and he was 342 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:09,679 Speaker 7: like seventy something, and he was like he had been 343 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:12,640 Speaker 7: part of the legislature there for you know, thirty years. 344 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:16,160 Speaker 4: I'm not changing. I'm not changing. You're just a young buck. 345 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:18,400 Speaker 4: What do you know that I don't like? You don't 346 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 4: know Nebraska? 347 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 1: Well rystims of power. 348 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 3: So they don't realize how insignificant and how irrelevant sort 349 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 3: of their little fiefdom is. But yet they're willing to 350 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:32,159 Speaker 3: sort of, you know, create a bunch of enemies and 351 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 3: dig their heels in on the most irrelevant stuff. 352 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 7: I also think there's a third faction of the GOP 353 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 7: that's being born. You have like the old Guard and 354 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 7: then this new Guard, which you know, like the Rhinos 355 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 7: and now Maga, and I think there's a third which 356 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 7: is like it's very interesting. It's like the new right 357 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 7: people that just don't care anymore, and they think everything's 358 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 7: rigged and everything's fake, and they don't want to vote, like, 359 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:57,159 Speaker 7: they don't want to get vote, they don't want to 360 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 7: get engaged in politics. 361 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:01,400 Speaker 1: And I think this is going to be a de nihilism. 362 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 9: Yeah, I see I see it in my local area actually, 363 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:06,440 Speaker 9: or somebody I know he has two sons or both 364 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 9: voting age one refuses to vote. 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One 429 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 3: of the best sort of outgrowths of turning point action 430 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:23,120 Speaker 3: wasn't necessarily something that we planned, but we have turning 431 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 3: point action for example, in all ten technical swing states, 432 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 3: which includes like Iowa, right which is hasn't really been 433 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 3: a true swing state for a while. But what we 434 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:35,159 Speaker 3: found is that when we go into these places, we 435 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 3: get a lot of young people, we get a lot 436 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:38,919 Speaker 3: of fresh blood. Because we have a different brand, it's 437 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 3: a different kind of we attract different types of people. 438 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:44,440 Speaker 3: And then what happens is we end up, you know, 439 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 3: inevitably working or partnering with local gops and we then 440 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:51,360 Speaker 3: therefore inject all this new blood. Now in a state 441 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 3: like New York, which I believe you're in Anthony obviously 442 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:56,399 Speaker 3: hasn't been a focus, so we're we don't have as 443 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 3: big of a presence there, but just creating an outside group, 444 00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 3: like kind of having this third party outside group that's 445 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 3: very friendly, very affiliated, but has a whole different energy, 446 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 3: a whole different DNA at different culture. That has been 447 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 3: a huge injection of new life in a lot of 448 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:15,200 Speaker 3: these places, and sometimes there's conflicts, like in Wisconsin. You know, 449 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 3: we've got Brett Galashevski who was running TP Action up 450 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 3: in Wisconsin. He's our enterprise director on Turning Point Action side. 451 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:22,719 Speaker 1: But he's like mister Wisconsin. 452 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 3: He has become a lot of those our Turning Point 453 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 3: people have have then been elected to local gop roles 454 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 3: and they've injected huge new energy there. 455 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 1: But some of the old dogs don't like it. 456 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 3: And so I would I would constantly get calls from 457 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 3: you know, local reporters in Wisconsin being like the local 458 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:43,119 Speaker 3: GOLP is very upset at you, and they're very they 459 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 3: don't like what Turning Point Action is doing and they 460 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 3: think that we're trying to take things over. No, it's 461 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:50,160 Speaker 3: more organic than that. It's just we have young people 462 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 3: with a lot of energy people like the new blood. 463 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:54,920 Speaker 3: They want to vote them into office at the local 464 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:58,440 Speaker 3: GOP level. So we've seen that, we've seen that a lot, 465 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 3: and I think that's kind of the way forward is 466 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 3: you got to get kind of outside groups to in 467 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 3: jeck new energy. So that that's that's my theory of 468 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 3: the case there. 469 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 9: All right, that might maybe work out this way. 470 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. 471 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 3: So maybe you could work with our Turning Point Action 472 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:15,680 Speaker 3: people if there's some contested elections, that would be something 473 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 3: that we could maybe get behind with our app and 474 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:19,640 Speaker 3: our ballot chasing. It'd have to be on a volunteer 475 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,160 Speaker 3: basis because New York is not one of our targets 476 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 3: for actual spend, but we we can still get the 477 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 3: local GOP up and running on the app, ballot chasing data, 478 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 3: all those things. 479 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, that's no problem. 480 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 9: I'll definitely look into that and everything. 481 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:32,680 Speaker 1: I appreciate it, guys. 482 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:36,880 Speaker 3: Awesome, Thanks, thanks Anthony. All right, next up we have Christine. Christine, 483 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 3: Welcome to the Charlie Kirkshaw. Please unmute yourself and welcome. Hi. 484 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 7: Hi, thanks for. 485 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 11: Taking my question, and congratulations on a great halftime show. 486 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:49,360 Speaker 1: It really thank you. It was all Mikey, I don't 487 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 1: know about that. 488 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 6: He at least was given in for me. I was 489 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 6: basically like in the dark the whole. 490 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:59,160 Speaker 3: Time we had we kept it pretty under wraps. Anyways, 491 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 3: it's great, thank you, thank you. We're going to do 492 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 3: it again next year, so you know, spread the word. 493 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:08,879 Speaker 11: We absolutely will. Can't wait. My question is it's kind 494 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,440 Speaker 11: of a lofty idea, but I figured I just throw 495 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:14,160 Speaker 11: it out there. I was just curious if any high 496 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 11: school or college chapters have ever considered hosting family events. 497 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,879 Speaker 11: I have three young kids, and you know, I'm always 498 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 11: looking for ways to get them around good role models, 499 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 11: and they love being around big kids too, and selfishly, 500 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 11: I'd love to be around parents who are maybe a 501 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:35,360 Speaker 11: life stage ahead of me, you know, to learn from them. 502 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 11: And was just curious of that his effort that you know, 503 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 11: have been been considered before. 504 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:41,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. 505 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 3: So so Tyler Boyer chimed in on the chat and 506 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 3: he said, turning point families is what TPUSA Faith should 507 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 3: be doing at the chapter level. 508 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 1: He goes, I told them that a long time ago. 509 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,680 Speaker 3: So so it's actually a good idea because we have, 510 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:59,679 Speaker 3: you know, obviously within the C three, which is turned TPUSA. 511 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,639 Speaker 3: We have the high schools which is Club America. We 512 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 3: have the College Vertical, So these are sort of different 513 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 3: teams than we have TPUSA Faith and Turning Point Academy 514 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 3: as well. Uh and that's all under the C three 515 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 3: to a few other things productions, social media, things like that, 516 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 3: but those are kind of the different areas of focus. 517 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,440 Speaker 3: And I do think that they could do a fam 518 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:24,679 Speaker 3: like family mixers and like barbecue. I mean a lot 519 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 3: of this stuff is very chapter based, and like what 520 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 3: I mean by that is it's very college based. So 521 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 3: these chapters get together and they do how do we 522 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,200 Speaker 3: get together with and bring recruit more kids? How do 523 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:37,359 Speaker 3: we We'll do a you know, like different events to 524 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 3: incorporate more of the campus life, and we'll push back 525 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,399 Speaker 3: against censorship. So it's kind of very local based and 526 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,920 Speaker 3: very local to their own university. But I love this 527 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:49,399 Speaker 3: idea of getting the families together and we should we 528 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:51,680 Speaker 3: should push that out and make it a thing. And 529 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 3: Turning Point Faith TPOSA faith could could get behind that. 530 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 3: So it's a great idea, Christine. We don't have it yet, 531 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:03,119 Speaker 3: but there's always room for improvement. So thank you for 532 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 3: the idea. 533 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,920 Speaker 11: Well, I appreciate it, guys, and keep up the great work. 534 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 1: Thank you so much, and thanks for your kind words 535 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:12,360 Speaker 1: about the halftime show. Oh we got one for Mikey. Here. 536 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 1: This is Mick. Mick, You're up next, and mute yourself, sir, 537 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. 538 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 12: All right, I do have a question for Mikey, and 539 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 12: then I have a question for y'all, but I'll start 540 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 12: with Mikey. So, I'm a twenty one year old living 541 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 12: in Oregon, and I never went to college and never 542 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 12: had plans to go to college, and that sounds like 543 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 12: that similar path that you took. I want to know 544 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,920 Speaker 12: if you have any advice for uh, you know, guys 545 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 12: like me coming out of high school that you know 546 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,879 Speaker 12: I want to stay involved and want to be engaged. Then, 547 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,119 Speaker 12: after he answers, I want to hear all of your 548 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 12: favorite Ninja turtles minus. 549 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:47,359 Speaker 1: Don at tellow mine. 550 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:49,200 Speaker 6: Okay. 551 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,920 Speaker 7: Yeah, So I always joked that Charlie kind of saved 552 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 7: me and inductrinated me a little bit, because I legitimately. 553 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 1: No, he did. 554 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 7: He saved me, but I was he was about to 555 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 7: take out three hundred thousand dollars student loans. Yeah yeah, 556 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,119 Speaker 7: and I was supposed to go to college. I had 557 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 7: my college plans and everything, and then he was like, no, 558 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,159 Speaker 7: don't go to college, come work for me. And so 559 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 7: it started as a gap year. It's been you know, 560 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,439 Speaker 7: six six gap years. So but here's my best advice. 561 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 7: This is what I always say to high schoolers in 562 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 7: your community. The people you know, the big businesses, you know, 563 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:24,440 Speaker 7: the most successful people you know. Identify those people. And 564 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:26,119 Speaker 7: when you are graduating and you don't want to go 565 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:30,359 Speaker 7: to college, go at beg for a meeting, annoy the 566 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 7: crap out. 567 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 4: Of them until he give you a meeting. 568 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 1: Did I give you this advice? 569 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 4: No, dude, I've been saying this for years. 570 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 1: Oh that's great. 571 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 7: And then if the keep calling the secretary until he 572 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 7: give you a meeting with the CEO of the company, 573 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 7: say I only need five minutes. I only need five minutes. 574 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,640 Speaker 7: Go there, sit down with them and say, look, I'm 575 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 7: graduating high school. I'm not going to college. I want 576 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 7: to come work for you. I will do whatever it takes. 577 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:54,440 Speaker 7: I'll be the first who arrived the last to leave. 578 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 7: There's no amount of hours I'm not willing to spend 579 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 7: to figure something out if I don't understand it, I'll 580 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:04,119 Speaker 7: be the hardest working employee you have, and at the 581 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,640 Speaker 7: end of my gap year, at the end of this year, 582 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:11,160 Speaker 7: you can either say that you got this entire year 583 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 7: of work out of me and you don't even have 584 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:13,159 Speaker 7: to pay me. 585 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 4: It could be free year of work. 586 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:16,959 Speaker 7: Or you can say, this person's so good, I want 587 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,119 Speaker 7: to hire them full time, and ten times out of 588 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 7: ten they will hire you full time and. 589 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 4: He will immediately hire you. 590 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:27,920 Speaker 7: Entrepreneurs, CEOs, business owners if they see a young hustling 591 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,399 Speaker 7: kid like that walk into their office and say something 592 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 7: just like that, they will hire you. 593 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 1: No, totally. 594 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 3: So I gave my I didn't realize you've been giving 595 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 3: this advice. I gave my nephew the same advice. So 596 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 3: my brother started having kids way younger, and he's older 597 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 3: than me, so like his eldest son is in college 598 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 3: now and he he I asked him, you know, what 599 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 3: do you want to do, and he was like, well, 600 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 3: I'm really into like property management and like business commercial 601 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 3: real estate, and I want to like kind of get 602 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 3: into that space. So I said, Okay, come back to 603 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 3: me with the top three firms into like, go do 604 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 3: your research. 605 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 1: Come back to me. 606 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 3: I said, Okay, so he comes back to me, these 607 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 3: are the top three term firms. Okay, who are the 608 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 3: top two executives at each firm? 609 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 1: Get me? Get me them? 610 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 3: Okay, now, get me, get me their their contact information 611 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 3: like assistants, emails, phone numbers, and so he called around 612 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 3: and got all of them. And I said, okay, you 613 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 3: harassed these three people until somebody takes a meeting with you. 614 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 1: And he got he got, he gotta. He got a paid. 615 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 3: Internship within two weeks doing exactly that. And he and 616 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 3: I told him, I said, you need to be willing 617 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 3: to work for free for at least six months, maybe twelve, 618 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 3: and don't complain. 619 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 1: Just say yes, sir, no, ma'am. All those things. All 620 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 1: you do is you are willing and. 621 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 3: Able and excited, enthusiastic, eager. You have to be so 622 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 3: positive because here's your especially young generations, they are whiners, complainers. 623 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 3: I'm not listen. I'm very pro young people, very pro 624 00:29:55,880 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 3: gen c jen alpha. But listen that the the on 625 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 3: you is that your complainers, you're not hard workers. 626 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 1: All this stuff. Prove that's not true with you. 627 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 3: And if you do that, if you are a standout exceptional, 628 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 3: then they I'm telling you Mikey's point, an entrepreneur will 629 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 3: look at you and see themselves in you and want 630 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,480 Speaker 3: to make you the best thing and pour into you. 631 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 4: Ninja Turtle quick. 632 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 1: Oh shoot yeah, Michaelangelo, I mean this is the Normy 633 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:23,960 Speaker 1: answered Leonardo. 634 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 4: I didn't watch it. I grew up on like aage 635 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 4: doesn't matter a favor. 636 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 1: Do I like blue purple red? Michaelangelo? 637 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, Blake's take clearly, Rich Barris Leonardo Michaelangelo, thanks Rich. 638 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 6: You can't have to Yeah, you can't know this is 639 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 6: that is ridiculous. 640 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 3: Hi, folks, Andrew Covett here, I'd like to tell you 641 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 3: about my friends over at why Refi. You've probably been 642 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 3: hearing me talk about y Refi for some time now. 643 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 3: We are all in with these guys. If you or 644 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 3: someone you know is struggling with private student loan debt, 645 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 3: take my advice and give them a call. Maybe you're 646 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 3: behind on your payments, maybe you're even in default. 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That's the letter why then refi dot com. 656 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,400 Speaker 3: And remember y Refi doesn't care what your credit score is. 657 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 3: Just go to yrefi dot com and tell them your 658 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:44,240 Speaker 3: friend Andrews sent you. 659 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 6: I wanted to get a email very quickly that was 660 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 6: very good, and then we do we have Brandon, But 661 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:52,720 Speaker 6: I also wanted to hit this quick because we talked 662 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:54,400 Speaker 6: about marijuana a lot at the top of the show. 663 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 6: I thought this was a great email we got. I'm 664 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 6: gonna leave her name out of it, but she says, 665 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 6: hi ccast team. I don't normally do this, but was 666 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 6: inspired to write thank you for talking on the show 667 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 6: about the dangers of marijuana. I lived the weed psychosis 668 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 6: nightmare myself and I watched as my boyfriend, who was 669 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 6: a heavy user, began to succumb to delusions and erratic behavior. 670 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 6: I had to get him emergency mental health treatment where 671 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 6: he was diagnosed with marijuana induced bipolar disorder. I had 672 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 6: to learn how to navigate his paranoia and his rage 673 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:29,480 Speaker 6: because he refused to stop using I myself had begun 674 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:31,400 Speaker 6: to use weed during this time, and I saw its 675 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 6: negative impacts on my motivation, on my emotional regulation, and 676 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 6: on my thought processes. It was a terrifying time in 677 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 6: my life. With praise and thanks to God, I am 678 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 6: now free of both the weed and the relationship. More 679 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 6: people need to be talking about these risks. Thank you 680 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:53,920 Speaker 6: very much for that email, and we want everyone listening. 681 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 6: If you're out there, if you're doing weed, listen to that. 682 00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 6: That could be your future. Leave it behind. Reject the poison, 683 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 6: no poison. 684 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. I love this. 685 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 3: First Corinthians six to two. Everything is permissible for me, 686 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 3: but not everything is beneficial. Everything is permissible for me, 687 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 3: but I will not be mastered by anything. And I 688 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 3: think about that all the time, because you know, I 689 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 3: had a pastor who said too really, he said a lot. 690 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 1: Of great things. 691 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 3: He by the way, he went to Princeton, used to 692 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 3: do Bible studies with Franklin Graham. This guy he married 693 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 3: me and my wife, Don Williams, amazing, amazing guy. Used 694 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 3: to say he had so many things. The meaning of 695 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,360 Speaker 3: life is relationships. That was one of his one good ones. 696 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:36,560 Speaker 3: He said faith is spelled risk, which is another good one. 697 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:40,160 Speaker 3: But he he used to say, everybody's an addict. Everybody's 698 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:43,080 Speaker 3: addicted to something. But you do not be mastered by anything, 699 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 3: and let Christ empower you. Overcome your addictions, overcome your flesh. 700 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,480 Speaker 3: Live by the live by the spirit, not by the flesh. 701 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 6: One more question, Brandon, unmute yourself. 702 00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:57,720 Speaker 10: Hey guys, can you hear me? 703 00:33:58,080 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 1: Yes? Uh so, Mike. 704 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:00,720 Speaker 8: Question is. 705 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 10: If there's anything in the anti federalist papers or like 706 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:10,840 Speaker 10: Constitutional Convention or anything that the anti federalist said that 707 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 10: you think if we implemented back then, that it would 708 00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 10: have been you know, it would have worked out for us. 709 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:21,839 Speaker 6: Well, I think we actually did implement. We did implement one. 710 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:23,719 Speaker 6: So the anti federalists, for those who are not aware, 711 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,400 Speaker 6: they're the ones who argued against the constitution. So the 712 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 6: federalists were the ones who said ratify the Constitution. After 713 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:32,719 Speaker 6: the convention, the anti federalists generally campaigned against it. But 714 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 6: as I'm sure you likely know, Brandon, the main thing 715 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,279 Speaker 6: that they pointed out as a problem was that there 716 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 6: was no Bill of Rights in the Constitution as originally drafted. 717 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 6: And George Mason, for example, campaigned against it because it 718 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:47,919 Speaker 6: did not have that, and for that sometimes he's called 719 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:51,200 Speaker 6: the father of the Bill of Rights. And that is 720 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,520 Speaker 6: what we got, and I think we've very much learned 721 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 6: they were correct. Sometimes you'll hear people say, oh, the 722 00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,360 Speaker 6: Bill of Rights might have been a mistake because it 723 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:02,080 Speaker 6: gave people the idea, oh, the government can do anything 724 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:05,400 Speaker 6: that's not explicitly forbidden in the Bill of Rights. And 725 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 6: I think instead we've learned over and over that having 726 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,320 Speaker 6: those explicit productions, they tried to get around what is 727 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,840 Speaker 6: explicitly banned in the Bill of Rights, but they have 728 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,759 Speaker 6: at least a very hard time doing it. That's repeatedly 729 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:23,120 Speaker 6: been our shield against so much over having explicit freedom 730 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:26,560 Speaker 6: of speech, explicit right to bear arms. We would one 731 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 6: and ten percent have banned guns in this country if 732 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 6: we did not have the Second Amendment there awkwardly getting 733 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:36,640 Speaker 6: in the way of them doing it, and the First 734 00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:38,160 Speaker 6: Amendment to the First Amendment. 735 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:42,279 Speaker 3: And there's a the I completely agree with what Blake 736 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:45,560 Speaker 3: is saying, and actually it's funny. I was recently reading 737 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:49,040 Speaker 3: back through a biography of George Washington, and I kept 738 00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:52,640 Speaker 3: sympathizing with the anti federalist more and more. Yeah, it's like, well, 739 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:54,960 Speaker 3: by the way, you got to remember the we think 740 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,799 Speaker 3: of our founders almost as monolithic. 741 00:35:58,239 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 1: They were not. 742 00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:04,560 Speaker 3: They had deeply passionate, vehement sometimes sometimes like come to 743 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:08,320 Speaker 3: blows fisticuffs kind of arguments about the size and scope 744 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:13,960 Speaker 3: of the federal government. And you know, Jefferson, Jefferson notoriously 745 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:19,000 Speaker 3: was of a different mind than George Washington. George Washington 746 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:23,719 Speaker 3: and Hamilton believed in a lot more centralized power with 747 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,839 Speaker 3: the federal government, and Jefferson was much more states rights guy. 748 00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:30,240 Speaker 3: So I totally encourage you to study the Founding fathers 749 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,960 Speaker 3: of the Founding generation. There's good stuff to be gleaned 750 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:34,920 Speaker 3: from both. But to Blake's point, we got a lot. 751 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:35,279 Speaker 1: Of good stuff. 752 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:37,719 Speaker 6: I'm trying to think of something that wasn't implemented, because 753 00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:39,840 Speaker 6: if they wanted the Bill of Rights, I do recall, 754 00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:41,800 Speaker 6: oh sorry, yes, what's that? 755 00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:46,279 Speaker 10: Well, so the one that I think that, I mean, 756 00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:49,239 Speaker 10: I see why they didn't put it in. But they 757 00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:53,160 Speaker 10: were debating of veto on state laws. They wanted the 758 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:58,320 Speaker 10: power to invalidate or negative improper state laws, and I 759 00:36:58,400 --> 00:36:59,719 Speaker 10: see why or. 760 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,400 Speaker 6: State nullification of federal laws. 761 00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:08,600 Speaker 10: State laws, so that national Congress would nullify improper state laws. 762 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:12,800 Speaker 10: So like, for example, we obviously have a lot of 763 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:16,520 Speaker 10: gun laws that are unconstitutional, and the national government could 764 00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:19,040 Speaker 10: just come in and say, hey, you know that's unconstitutional. 765 00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:22,640 Speaker 1: No, doesn't work. Well, we do have a process by 766 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:24,080 Speaker 1: which we can do that through the courts. 767 00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:28,719 Speaker 3: Right, So if the state institutes a law that is 768 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:33,680 Speaker 3: anti constitutional, then that can get litigated up through the courts, 769 00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,520 Speaker 3: and then ultimately the Supreme Court could take it up 770 00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:38,640 Speaker 3: and then basically say that's an unconstitutional law. 771 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:40,520 Speaker 1: So there is a process. 772 00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:42,600 Speaker 3: And by the way, we do have supremacy clause, right, 773 00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:47,000 Speaker 3: the federal government is supreme. So and you, by the way, 774 00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:51,320 Speaker 3: you've seen that specifically with gun laws in countless states, 775 00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:55,880 Speaker 3: especially Blue states, that have tried to institute unconstitutional you know, 776 00:37:56,200 --> 00:38:01,120 Speaker 3: gun laws, and they've been overturned their chagrin, and yet 777 00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:03,520 Speaker 3: there is a tension there, right, Like in California, you 778 00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,520 Speaker 3: still can do concealed carry in California, but they make 779 00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:07,840 Speaker 3: it extraordinarily difficult. 780 00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:09,120 Speaker 1: One it's being saved by. 781 00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:11,520 Speaker 6: I'm trying to think of something the anti federalists wanted 782 00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:14,759 Speaker 6: that wasn't actually including the Bill of Rights and a 783 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,280 Speaker 6: warning I'm recalling they did have is they were concerned 784 00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:20,640 Speaker 6: that the judiciary would be too powerful. That they were saying, 785 00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:23,480 Speaker 6: the Supreme Court could just basically make whatever laws we want. 786 00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:25,560 Speaker 6: And what's funny is we didn't see that for a 787 00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:27,560 Speaker 6: long time. For a long time, there was a lot 788 00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:31,360 Speaker 6: of restraints, and now really over the last century or so, 789 00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:35,920 Speaker 6: we've actually seen that manifestation of the courts being extremely powerful. 790 00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:38,400 Speaker 6: Part of this is just I think part of it 791 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:40,760 Speaker 6: is the Supreme Court that they have those life terms 792 00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:43,600 Speaker 6: and that's now turned into you're on the court forty 793 00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:45,360 Speaker 6: forty five, fifty years. And it's not so much that 794 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:47,640 Speaker 6: that's bad. That's worked to our advantage, but I think 795 00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:50,520 Speaker 6: it's made all of American politics start to revolve around 796 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:53,160 Speaker 6: the Supreme Court dynamics and what you can engineer through 797 00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,560 Speaker 6: the courts, And I sometimes wonder if people would be 798 00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:59,480 Speaker 6: less all consumed with it if it was something like 799 00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,600 Speaker 6: the Supreme Court was an eighteen year term and every 800 00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:05,080 Speaker 6: president by default, would get two nominations to the court, 801 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:07,000 Speaker 6: So you don't have a majority of the court until 802 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,680 Speaker 6: you've won three presidential elections in a row, and then 803 00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:13,000 Speaker 6: it doesn't last for half a century due to the 804 00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:15,480 Speaker 6: quirks of who hadn't managed to get nominees. And it's 805 00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:18,160 Speaker 6: something I think about, but it has frankly worked out 806 00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:19,040 Speaker 6: to our benefit well. 807 00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:22,080 Speaker 3: And I will tell you that wherever, wherever they can 808 00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:27,560 Speaker 3: exploit a loophole or a power vacuum, connivers and corruptors 809 00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:30,520 Speaker 3: will find a way to wiggle in there and manipulate it. 810 00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:32,640 Speaker 1: For their or Oh good, all right, Mikey. 811 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:36,399 Speaker 3: Thank you for joining us, sir, thank you for having me, Blake, 812 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:38,960 Speaker 3: It's been a good show. Thank you everybody, good questions. 813 00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:41,360 Speaker 3: Always be ready to join. 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