1 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 1: Welcome to Timeless Wisdom with Dennis Prager. Here thousands of 2 00:00:24,240 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 1: hours of Dennis's lectures courses in classic radio programs. Had 3 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 1: to purchase Dennis Prager's Rational Bibles, go to Dennisprager dot com. 4 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 2: Another aspect which is different from women and which is problematic, 5 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:48,679 Speaker 2: it's quantitative. The male sex urge is quantitative rather than 6 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 2: only qualitative. More not just more sex, more women or 7 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 2: more men for the gay man. Variety is implanted in males. 8 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 2: Did you here's the proof that you know from the news. 9 00:01:10,039 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 2: Did you ever see guys who were married to the 10 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 2: most gorgeous models and women in the world? And then 11 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 2: for fifty dollars we'll go to some hardly go rgeous hooker, 12 00:01:20,759 --> 00:01:24,199 Speaker 2: you know on Santa Monica Boulevard. Did you ever wonder? 13 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, people must think, what is this guy? 14 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 3: Nuts? 15 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 2: Did you ever see his wife? It didn't matter, It 16 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 2: was another female body. That urge for variety. Quantity is 17 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 2: built in and it's it's and let me tell you 18 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 2: this is all said. You know, and as I see, 19 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 2: you know, there are a lot of women's I can 20 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 2: see your faces, you olsumites? Great what I can see? 21 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:52,639 Speaker 2: You know, there were a lot fewer smiles than twenty 22 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 2: minutes ago, and very understandably. I but let me keep reassuring. 23 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 2: Especially but really both sexes that are here, and even 24 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 2: the third sex that may be here. I just because 25 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 2: it is southern California, one doesn't always know who's in 26 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 2: the audience. But this doesn't mean that nothing can work out. 27 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 2: Of course it can, and men can love, believe it 28 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:19,839 Speaker 2: or not. We have to learn how to love. It's 29 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 2: not quite as natural in some ways. And to tie 30 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 2: love in with sex that has to be learned too 31 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 2: in many areas, although sometimes it comes naturally. Nevertheless it 32 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 2: is it can be done, and women shouldn't give up 33 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 2: in trying to work with their with their husbands their 34 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 2: boyfriends in this arena. But first you got to know 35 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 2: the product you're getting. That's that's the whole reason for 36 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 2: all of this. So quantity variety, not just number of 37 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:52,239 Speaker 2: times of sex. That may very well be especially for 38 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 2: some women, she may want it. There up marriages where 39 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:59,080 Speaker 2: the woman wants it more than the man. Absolutely, But 40 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:01,920 Speaker 2: if you took that guy who doesn't want it that 41 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 2: often with his wife and you sent them to wait 42 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 2: and say, you know what, you can have a harem 43 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 2: in Dayton, Ohio. This guy would perk up. Okay, believe me. 44 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 2: The variety, the variety would would perk him up in 45 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 2: a moment. And so and by the way, there's another 46 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 2: proof for the variety. It's a very funny proof, but 47 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:28,079 Speaker 2: it's because it's so obvious, but most people don't think 48 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 2: about it. If men didn't want variety, one issue of 49 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 2: Playboy would suffice. Right, Hey, what do I need this issue? 50 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 2: I have the one from February seventy six, perfectly fine. 51 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 2: This one's no more beautiful than that one. Right. That's 52 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 2: the proof of variety is the amount of pornography there 53 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 2: is out there. If it was just fantasizing over a picture. Okay, 54 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 2: I got one issue. I'm happy. There's nothing different than 55 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 2: the new one. It's instead of you know Lana, this 56 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 2: one is you know Cheryl. And that's really that. It's 57 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 2: pretty interchangeable. But it's variety and it's different, and they 58 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 2: throw out the old issue. I mean, once it's used, 59 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 2: it's it's the word for iph he really is used. 60 00:04:20,159 --> 00:04:24,160 Speaker 2: It's consumed. Once it's consumed, it's done. It's almost like 61 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 2: a meality. You can't reeat it. And that's by the way, 62 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 2: the proof though, when when a man is capable and 63 00:04:32,159 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 2: making love and having sex with a woman, the same 64 00:04:34,919 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 2: woman over and over, that that's a proof by the 65 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 2: way of the power of love, because without love it 66 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 2: would be almost impossible for him and certainly for her 67 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 2: to do so. UH. And finally, in the in these 68 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 2: characteristics of the UH of the male that are problematic 69 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 2: and distinctive is the the that he is aroused genitally 70 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 2: rather than emotionally. The the the the avenue to a 71 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 2: woman's arousal is through the head by and large, through 72 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 2: the brain and the heart, if you will. His is 73 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:25,599 Speaker 2: pretty directly eye to genital and and it's it's again 74 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 2: it is different. He actually a man can actually feel 75 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 2: feel it, seeing and will have even feelings in that 76 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:40,039 Speaker 2: in that area of his body. What are the what 77 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 2: are some of the societal or institutional or proofs of 78 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 2: all of this is the of course, Pornography is one 79 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 2: obvious example, which I will discuss another another session. Prostitution 80 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 2: is a is a classic example. We're you know, just 81 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 2: pay pay to have anonymous sex. In fact, that's what 82 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 2: is part of its allure to many men. They don't 83 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 2: have to talk. They could. It's just a biological act, 84 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:21,919 Speaker 2: you know, there's no commitment necessary. I pay, I do 85 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 2: what I want, I leave. It isn't uplifting, but it is, 86 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:31,599 Speaker 2: but it is natural. Strip teas clubs and topless bars 87 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 2: are just other examples. Men will pay just to see 88 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 2: women topless, and before topless they were grim a go 89 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:43,039 Speaker 2: go girls. That was before topless caught on, you know, 90 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 2: to see women dance in bikinis. Now, of course it's countered. Ah, 91 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 2: but look at Chippendale's and women paying to see male strippers. 92 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:58,159 Speaker 2: I am sure that there is something erotic that goes 93 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 2: on at Chippendale's with women, but there are so many 94 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:07,040 Speaker 2: differences that it is almost a pointless point to say, oh, well, 95 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 2: women love to see men stripped too. First of all, 96 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 2: in almost every instance of women going to male strip places, 97 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 2: and there are very few of them, the ratio of 98 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 2: female to male is about four one thousand to one. 99 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 2: But when they go, they almost always. In fact, I 100 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 2: have never known of an exception. I assume there is, 101 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 2: but I've never known of one. They go in a group. 102 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:36,559 Speaker 2: Men don't tend to go in a group. Hey guys, Hey, 103 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 2: let's all go to the strip Joan. Men like to 104 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 2: go alone fantasize the women they want by themselves. They're 105 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 2: there to look at naked female flesh. The women are 106 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 2: there to have an experience with the girls. Almost. I 107 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 2: am convinced in part to turn the tables on men. 108 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 2: You see, you think that you can look at us 109 00:07:57,640 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 2: like sexual objects, but we can't see you with sexual 110 00:07:59,880 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 2: objects Bologne. We're going to Chippendale's to prove it. But 111 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 2: it is very different and it is not animated by 112 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 2: the same thing, because if it were, they would be 113 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 2: just a burgeoning of these places and women would just 114 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 2: do it, and women would buy magazines like this were 115 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 2: there were two? It was a playgirl and what was 116 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 2: the other one? 117 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 3: Uh? 118 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 2: We No, no, we was for men? There was there was. 119 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 2: This was published by Penthouse and it went out and 120 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 2: went out of business. I think it's the only Penthouse 121 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 2: venture that flunked. What was it called beg end with 122 00:08:35,680 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 2: a V. Anyway, it doesn't matter in any event, uh 123 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:44,559 Speaker 2: it went out of business with all the advertising. Women 124 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 2: are not craving to see men take their clothes off. 125 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 2: In fact, I did an experiment once on my when 126 00:08:50,079 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 2: I had a TV show and I talked about male 127 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 2: female differences, and we took a picture of one of 128 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 2: my male producers and uh in his in his boxer shorts. Okay, 129 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 2: We introduced him and then showed the picture and everybody left. 130 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 2: The audience just thought it was hilarious. The picture of 131 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 2: my folks is just to turn on. Look Larry with 132 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 2: his pants down, and the women laughed and the men laughed. 133 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 2: Right then I said, can you imagine though, And then 134 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:26,319 Speaker 2: I pointed to a female producer. If she were here 135 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 2: with her without her pants on, nobody would laugh. A 136 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 2: place would be sexually charged with tension. Man's pants fall 137 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 2: down is a clown joke. Correct, That is what clowns 138 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 2: do to get laughs. Women aren't going. I gotta see more. 139 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 2: I gotta see more. No, it's a joke. Men. Pants 140 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 2: falling down is a clown's joke. Women, A skirt falling 141 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 2: down is an erotic moment. Okay, I mean is that not? 142 00:09:57,600 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 2: I mean if that doesn't tell it to you, like 143 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:04,199 Speaker 2: all the other things, then nothing will. So those are 144 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 2: some of the expressions. Got to change the tape, fine, 145 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 2: and I'll take a drink of water here. I want to, 146 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:15,560 Speaker 2: by the way, unlike my other classes. I really do 147 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 2: want to get input from you in this one, so 148 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 2: I'm going to speak for a few more minutes and 149 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 2: allow time for questions and comments. 150 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:28,719 Speaker 1: This episode of Timeless Wisdom will continue right after this. 151 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 1: Now back to more of Dennis Brager's Timeless Wisdom. 152 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 2: I will conclude therefore with the six challenges that I 153 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 2: see as a result of all this. If I'm right, 154 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 2: and there are few things I'm more certain of than 155 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 2: the male sex, as I described it, this is the 156 00:10:56,960 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 2: actually five what the male struggle is, and it is 157 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 2: not in order of importance, just as I had notated 158 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:12,599 Speaker 2: it number one. To regard women as human beings first, 159 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 2: This is a male struggle. It is helped massively. If 160 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 2: the boy has a good, loving relationship with his mother, 161 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 2: that's a very big help. It's not common. If it 162 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 2: were common, the world would be in better shape. This 163 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 2: is not an indictment of women. It is not an 164 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 2: indictment of men. It is just a sad fact of life. 165 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 2: The first woman in a male's life is mommy. If 166 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 2: she is loving and he loves her and he bonds 167 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 2: with her, then he sees the first woman of his 168 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 2: affections and has sexual feelings towards as we know since Freud, 169 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 2: it is combined utterly with love and therefore, and he 170 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 2: knows that she's a person. I love her. I want 171 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 2: to talk to her. If a guy talks to his mother, 172 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 2: it's good. If he talks too much to his mother, 173 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 2: it's not good. It is a very very to produce 174 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 2: a healthy male is a very very type rope type thing. 175 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 2: See I mentioned this I'm on the radio, but I 176 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 2: don't remember what context. I believe it was on radio. 177 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:37,560 Speaker 2: And that if a woman, if your wife speaks to 178 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 2: her mother every day on the phone for a half hour, 179 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 2: an hour, it's nothing to no man doesn't matter. Regards 180 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 2: mom as a great friend, best friend, confides in her. 181 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 2: But imagine a guy did that, called his mother every 182 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 2: day for an hour and confided his life to her. 183 00:12:56,160 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 2: You'd sue for divorce. Go marry mommy, is what you 184 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 2: would think. Right, So it's very hard. I want you 185 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:11,679 Speaker 2: to have some sympathy for the male because it's a finer. 186 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 2: Just today I was talking on the radio where a 187 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 2: woman psychologist wrote that boys are more fragile than girls. 188 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 2: They are divorce. We see that and suicide. It's ninety 189 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 2: five percent of juvenile suicides are boys. Boys are fragile. 190 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 2: A good man ors A good man is hard to find. 191 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 2: There are many reasons a good man is hard to find. 192 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 2: It's hard to make a good man because too much 193 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:37,680 Speaker 2: loving mom and his mommy's boy too little, and he 194 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 2: sees women as objects. You want a combination that is 195 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:46,079 Speaker 2: not easily created. And men have to work on themselves, obviously, 196 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 2: which we'll talk about on another session. But understand that 197 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 2: this challenge to males to regard the woman as a 198 00:13:55,679 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 2: human being first is very It runs against his sexual nature, 199 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 2: but may not run against his emotional nature. The you know, 200 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 2: it has often been said when they, well, what does 201 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 2: it when men would rape in war for example, you know, 202 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 2: and they and women or other who try to talk 203 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 2: them out of it would say, think of your mother. 204 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 2: But that may not help. See, don't think of this 205 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 2: as a female whose legs you want to spread. Think 206 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 2: of it as your mother. And but that may not, 207 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 2: as I say, that may not be all that helpful. 208 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 2: There may not have been that much going on with mom. 209 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 2: He may hate mom for all we know, and sore. 210 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 2: So he has to battle his nature in this regard. 211 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 2: It's not an insult that the first thing. Look, the 212 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 2: fact is the first thing a male will see is 213 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 2: a female. As one person once said, you can forget everything. 214 00:14:59,840 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 2: You may not remember anything about a person that you meet, 215 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 2: but you'll always remember their sex. It's very interesting. That 216 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 2: makes a very profound impact on us. You may forget 217 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 2: their race, even which certainly is a very quick thing 218 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 2: that you can notice skin color, but sex is never forgotten. 219 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 2: And and the first thing a man sees in a 220 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 2: woman is a woman, not a person. And that's okay, 221 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 2: that's not terrible. But if it continues, as he has to. 222 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 2: He has to work to regard women as human beings. 223 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 2: Number two, he has to learn to concentrate on other 224 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 2: things in life, because if he could, he would not 225 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 2: he would just concentrate on sex. Men have to learn 226 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 2: how to do this. This is called sublimation. This is 227 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 2: Freud's one of again Freud's great contributions, that a lot 228 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 2: of creativity is men sublimating their sex drive to create things, buildings, 229 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 2: works of art. Why do men build so much? And 230 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 2: and tell me it's not sublimation. From the earliest ages. 231 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 2: Do you ever see what boys and girls do at 232 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 2: an early age, what they build? Boys build big and tall. 233 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 2: Girls build circles. Now you're telling me that this is 234 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 2: culturally induced, right like we told our daughter. Nope, never 235 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 2: build a building, only circles. Jeffese doodles of males and females. 236 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 2: Women doodle in curves and circles. Men doodle and squares 237 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 2: and lines. I mean this very basic stuff, the sex, 238 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 2: the sex part of us. And from very early on, 239 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 2: I mean it is very funny with boys, how everything 240 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 2: is phallic. Mine is bigger than yours, Mine is longer 241 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 2: than yours, Mine is duller than yours, Mine is stronger 242 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 2: than yours. I mean, this starts very early, and it 243 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 2: is Believe me, I didn't induce this in my boys. 244 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 2: I didn't say, hey, let's have a competition, who was 245 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:59,239 Speaker 2: the bigger building. This was. It was just it came naturally. 246 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:07,160 Speaker 2: And this is what men do to sublimate their sex drive. 247 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:13,159 Speaker 2: Is create things, music, art, buildings, architecture, you name it, poems, 248 00:17:14,679 --> 00:17:18,120 Speaker 2: and that's a great thing. And men have to learn 249 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 2: how to do this. Some men don't do it. Some men, 250 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:28,400 Speaker 2: you know, live the life of basically playboy, and that's 251 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:33,200 Speaker 2: what they do. And they're not known for being terribly creative. Third, 252 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 2: which is related to the first, to treat women properly, 253 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 2: even if they still regard them as sexual beings, primarily behaviorally. 254 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 2: Men have to learn how to treat women. It is 255 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 2: much different for women. Women have to learn how to 256 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 2: be decent human beings just like men do. I mean, 257 00:17:55,320 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 2: that's universal, but truly how to treat a woman. Women 258 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:03,360 Speaker 2: are teaching us all the time how to treat them. 259 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 2: Wives are teaching their husbands all the time how to 260 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:12,119 Speaker 2: treat them. And it's because it doesn't come quite naturally, 261 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:20,119 Speaker 2: for reasons that have been noted and otherwise. Actually, I 262 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:22,959 Speaker 2: will give you four and the fourth not five, because 263 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 2: I have another one enough to live for sex. But 264 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 2: I already had that, Yes, oh, I said, say that. 265 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:32,399 Speaker 2: So the fifth is to be monogamous. This is the 266 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:39,359 Speaker 2: ultimate triumph in the domestication of male sexual nature, the 267 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 2: monogamizing of a man. It's very tough. A handful of 268 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:52,160 Speaker 2: men don't find it tough, but handfuls don't make things 269 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 2: true or false. It is a battle for a man. 270 00:18:56,800 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 2: And I will talk about adultery in coming sessions and 271 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 2: methods that I think can be used to minimize it. 272 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:12,640 Speaker 2: But to be monogamous to be faithful sexually to man 273 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:19,199 Speaker 2: could be faithful emotionally, that's not a major trick, But 274 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:23,359 Speaker 2: to be faithful sexually to one woman. I'll put it 275 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:27,400 Speaker 2: to you in a very funny way. I once said 276 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 2: to a Catholic priest friend of mine, you know, the 277 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 2: difference between you and me is not all that traumatic. 278 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:37,640 Speaker 2: You are not allowed to be sexual with any woman 279 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 2: in the world, and neither am I except for one. 280 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 2: Which sounds funny, but is the way a man could 281 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:51,200 Speaker 2: put it. A man is celibate except for one woman, 282 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 2: and that is how men think of that. Why do 283 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 2: men have bachelor parties before they get married, their last 284 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 2: chance to do what their nature wants? See naked women strangers? Right, 285 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 2: They're not asking their cousin to strip, right, total strangers 286 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:11,640 Speaker 2: to show up, take off their clothing. I've never thought 287 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 2: it was a great custom. I must say, it's not 288 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 2: something I didn't do that before my wedding, But my 289 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:20,639 Speaker 2: religion doesn't exactly ask for that. You know, it's not 290 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 2: a mitzvah to have a bachelor party four year pet. 291 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 1: This episode of Timeless Wisdom will continue right after this. 292 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 1: Now back to more of Dennis Prager's timeless wisdom. 293 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:48,160 Speaker 2: So to be monogamous is the final is that final 294 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 2: challenge if men can work this out and women can 295 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 2: help them. And I will tell you one major way, 296 00:20:57,600 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 2: but it's going to be in the solutions part. But 297 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:01,400 Speaker 2: i'll just tell you now and now to take questions 298 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:05,679 Speaker 2: and comments. Yeah, okay, here they are to come to 299 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:08,160 Speaker 2: regard women as human beings first, to concentrate on other 300 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 2: things in life, not to live for sex, to treat 301 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 2: women properly, to be monogamous. Okay, yes, because it was 302 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 2: based to concentrate on other things in life. That's why 303 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:25,120 Speaker 2: I realized they're not that separate. So it's the same. 304 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:27,919 Speaker 2: It's part of it. Not to live for sex, is 305 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:31,119 Speaker 2: to be able to create something like a family, to 306 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 2: be a father, to be a worker, to be a friend, 307 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:37,199 Speaker 2: to be many other things in life. I'll tell you 308 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:40,359 Speaker 2: how one quick way, and then i'll do more of 309 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 2: that next week. That a woman can help her man, 310 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 2: and that is to know him. What is it this? 311 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:53,439 Speaker 2: I don't know if this old saw is true, but 312 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 2: it's an interesting one. Women want to be loved, men 313 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:01,639 Speaker 2: want to be understood. You might even say the opposite. 314 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 2: I don't know. But when I first heard it when 315 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:09,159 Speaker 2: I was much younger. It struck me as having some validity, 316 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 2: and men do want to be understood. My friend was 317 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 2: not happy that he couldn't tell his wife that he 318 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:20,199 Speaker 2: looked at the women at the racket ball club, and 319 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 2: how could it be good? Do you realize what a 320 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:26,160 Speaker 2: massive part of him he is hiding from his best 321 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 2: friend in life. I mean, he would tell that to 322 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 2: a guy he met on an airplane, but to his 323 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:38,200 Speaker 2: own life. He felt constrained from saying a man will 324 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 2: be a good man. I mean, jerks are he can't 325 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 2: do anything with a jerk, But a good man will 326 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 2: be tremendously grateful to a woman who wants to understand 327 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:58,160 Speaker 2: him and doesn't judge his nature maybe his behavior. I mean, 328 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 2: to know our nature is not to say, oh well, then, darling, 329 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 2: whenever you're on a business trip, police feel free to 330 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:06,879 Speaker 2: pick somebody up at a local bar. No, that's a 331 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 2: separate issue. But to understand his nature and not to 332 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:19,879 Speaker 2: judge it, and then to appreciate. Wow, if that's really 333 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 2: what you're like, and you are faithful, you're quite an achievement. 334 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:28,359 Speaker 2: It's worth saying as men should praise their wives for 335 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 2: their extraordinary achievements that they have to that they have 336 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 2: created in their lives. So the dilemma. I began this 337 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 2: first of the four sessions with male sexuality, because that's 338 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:46,119 Speaker 2: really the dilemma in the human species. Women are a 339 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 2: dilemma in other arenas, but in this arena, male sexuality. 340 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 2: Oh yes, I promised you something to blow your mind. Sheet. 341 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,040 Speaker 2: I am going to show you something. I wish I 342 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:04,440 Speaker 2: could pass it around. But it's twelve pages, single spaced. 343 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 2: Every page has two four, six, eight, ten, twelve, fourteen, sixteen, 344 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:17,679 Speaker 2: eighteen twenty. I would say about fifty fifty websites just 345 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 2: available through one one site on the internet. This is 346 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:25,119 Speaker 2: one one site with fifty places to click on to 347 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:30,880 Speaker 2: see women. Okay, this is what you can see if 348 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:40,880 Speaker 2: you click on any of these. All right, okay, all right, 349 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 2: see here we go. Yeah, all right, here you go, folks, 350 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:59,119 Speaker 2: senior citizens. This one has one thousand and five total 351 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 2: pictures of naked senior citizens, female plumpers. I didn't click 352 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 2: on that one. I'm not sure what it is. Fetish, fetish, 353 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:18,119 Speaker 2: wet and messy, Latino redheads, porn star teens, teen female 354 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 2: non nude voyeurism, voyeurism, hidden camera scat. You know what 355 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 2: scott is? Okay, this is all adults here. Scat is 356 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 2: fecal matter, okay, women relieving themselves, yes, okay, fitness centerfolds, gothic, 357 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 2: great ass, Paulina images, sun tan, underwater lingerie, petite, tickling, naturism, 358 00:25:54,359 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 2: anal breasts, natural cheerleaders, co ed, denim, denim shorts, female 359 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 2: body hair, female body hair, pumes, female four arm hair. 360 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 2: I missed that one. I must say it. I'll have 361 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 2: to check that one. Female panties, see through panties, plumpers, 362 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:33,160 Speaker 2: sap fo. That's lesbians, teen feme, non nude, celebrities, celebrities, 363 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 2: female photography, glamour, amateurs, animals. That's bestiality, not pictures of 364 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 2: your pet bikini central bisexuals, black erotic females, bluebird that's 365 00:26:53,320 --> 00:27:00,920 Speaker 2: not for birdwatchers. That's Japanese body art, bras, breasts, candid 366 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 2: beach cartoons, celebrities, cemeteries. I didn't quite follow with that one. 367 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 2: I didn't click on all. I would spent my life there. 368 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 2: Cheerleaders professional as opposed to the earlier cheerleaders, presumably non professional. Cocks, contortions, 369 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:27,360 Speaker 2: nude tops, disabled men, who love disabled women. Okay, amateur 370 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 2: facial amateur. Let's see back to animals again. Asian Indian 371 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:38,640 Speaker 2: Australian female. I won't read you that one be steality, 372 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 2: be steality, hamster duct tape. Do not quite get onto 373 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 2: that an It's another puzzle that only rushing could figure out. 374 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:56,159 Speaker 2: Black females, blondes, bondage, breasts, breasts, large breasts, natural breasts, 375 00:27:56,200 --> 00:28:04,199 Speaker 2: saggy breast, small brunette, butts, chastity belt close up like 376 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 2: the others are from distance. I'm sure close up is 377 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:13,120 Speaker 2: that a riot? Close up that it's probably anatomical I mean, 378 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:20,120 Speaker 2: maybe it's probably internal exhibitionism. Exhibition is in public female 379 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:25,959 Speaker 2: female ejaculation, female anal, female bodybuilder, female cosmetic female genet elia, 380 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:30,119 Speaker 2: large female orgasm. Back to female plumpers. Don't know what 381 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:35,919 Speaker 2: that is? Female spread wide, female toys, female ugly, fetish, 382 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 2: fetish armpits, fetish diapers, fetish feet, fetish female socks. There's 383 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 2: a website of female sucks. I did not know that. 384 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 2: Fetish hair, fetish latex, fetish leather, fetish neck filipinas, freckles, fisting, 385 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 2: I know what it is, but don't ask me. Full 386 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 2: bush furry, fuzzy g string garters, and heels. Okay, that's 387 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 2: only page three, page five. Okay, we do not have 388 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 2: anything for male forearm hair in women's internet sites. There 389 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 2: is no female equivalent to this. You might say, well, 390 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 2: women are embarrassed to buy a playgirl at a newsstand, 391 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 2: but after all, nobody knows what you see on the internet. 392 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 2: There are no internet sites like this for women, not one. 393 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 2: There are tens of thousands, and they're all for men. 394 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 2: So that's what I mean by the orangutan analogy. 395 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 1: This episode of Timeless Wisdom will continue right after this. 396 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 1: Now back to more of Dennis Prager's Timeless Wisdom. 397 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 2: Let me take a couple of If you have any 398 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 2: quick comments or questions, by the way, feel free to 399 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 2: think them up. I begin each session with comments if 400 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 2: you had nightmares tonight, you know on plumpers or ugly 401 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:16,240 Speaker 2: or you know whatever. Let me take one or two. Yes, yeah, 402 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 2: and they are kind of on the visual of enough 403 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 2: that sexuality. 404 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 3: That would really apt. And also when you talked about 405 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 3: blind people, it's interesting there are hundreds and a thousands 406 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 3: of death gay men. They have loads and gay prider eggs, 407 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,960 Speaker 3: they have organizations, they have parties you don't see and 408 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:40,479 Speaker 3: maybe aren't very few blind gay men who didn't get 409 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 3: it from a hip. And I don't know of anybody 410 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 3: who studied blind sexuality or talked to to a blind. 411 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 2: Persons that how do you know that you're straight? 412 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,120 Speaker 3: But I think it's really interesting you that there aren't 413 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 3: very as anything. 414 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,640 Speaker 2: That is fine. I will check into that blind gay men. 415 00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 2: I'll ask about it on the radio. That's my source 416 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 2: for everything. You know, we'll all blind gay men call in. 417 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 2: I mean any you know, we'll all Bulgarians with one 418 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,680 Speaker 2: leg call and I get Bulgarians with one leg in, 419 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 2: I mean in la is everything. That's an interesting thought 420 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 2: that drove your hand up. Yes, really why you're right? 421 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 2: I did not attempt to explain why, and frankly that 422 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 2: doesn't interest me much. First of all, we don't know 423 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:38,479 Speaker 2: there's the evolutionary answer we want that nature wants men 424 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 2: to spread sperm to as many females as possible. That 425 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:46,440 Speaker 2: may well be, but in the in the bottom line, 426 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 2: the bottom line is, it doesn't matter. Why will you 427 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 2: understand man better now that I told you that nature wanted, 428 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:56,959 Speaker 2: you know, males to spread sperm to as many females 429 00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 2: as possible, and that if you look at bulls go 430 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 2: from cow to cow, you have a good idea what 431 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 2: a man is like. If so, I'm happy I edited it. Yeah, 432 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 2: this may be, but you see, that's all theoretical I want. 433 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,720 Speaker 2: I am very pragmatic. I'm giving this because I am 434 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 2: interested in the biogenesis of sexual of sexuality. This is 435 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 2: the fact. This is the way men are now, whether 436 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 2: it is God, nature, evolution, a quirk. It's interesting, but 437 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 2: ultimately of little significance to me. This is what you 438 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 2: and I have to live with. You women I man 439 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 2: have to live with, and that's what I was most 440 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 2: interested in. It is fascinating, but we all have limited 441 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 2: areas to devote our thought processes to. Before there's a 442 00:32:52,360 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 2: woman in shorts walking by through distracted let's get a woman. Yes, yes, 443 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 2: that's a good question. She is an incest survivor? Will 444 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 2: I tell her why her father did it? Probably because 445 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 2: somebody did something to him at some point, I say, probably, 446 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:16,240 Speaker 2: we don't know it for sure. I will tell you this. 447 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 2: I will tell you a story about incest. Raised the 448 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:24,720 Speaker 2: hairs on my back and I thought I was pretty 449 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 2: you know, worldly. This was revelatory to me. This happened 450 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 2: in Egypt when I in nineteen seventy four, I was 451 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:40,160 Speaker 2: visiting Egypt. I was twenty six years old, and I 452 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 2: hired a guide to take me to the Pyramids, and 453 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:51,600 Speaker 2: he spoke some English, and so we discussed on the way. 454 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:55,040 Speaker 2: It was in the summer. Summer in Egypt is terribly 455 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 2: hot and humid, and on the way, I said, would 456 00:33:58,320 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 2: you like to stop for a drink? I said, I 457 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 2: would love to, and I got a beer, and I 458 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 2: very foolishly offered him a beer. Muslim, of course, and 459 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:11,479 Speaker 2: practicing Muslims don't drink alcohol. But he was very very 460 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:13,720 Speaker 2: nice about he said, I'm sorry, I'm a Muslim and 461 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:21,360 Speaker 2: I don't drink alcohol. I've always asked people supposed you 462 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,479 Speaker 2: as opposed to your question, which I should I guess 463 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:27,840 Speaker 2: ask in light of this? Why so I said to him, Muhammad, 464 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,040 Speaker 2: if you would be so kind to tell me, why 465 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:34,280 Speaker 2: is it that you don't drink alcohol? You Muslims plural 466 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:39,319 Speaker 2: you Muhammad individually. Do you know what he answered? He said, 467 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:45,600 Speaker 2: because if a man drinks alcohol, you never know how 468 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:50,840 Speaker 2: he will act. He will go home, he will pass 469 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:55,279 Speaker 2: his daughter's room and see her, and only God knows 470 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:59,480 Speaker 2: what he will do. And I, in my mind, I 471 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:03,320 Speaker 2: was playing the Twilight Zone theme. I thought, oh my god. 472 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,440 Speaker 2: I asked a guy what's why he doesn't drink? And 473 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:08,359 Speaker 2: the first thing that comes to his mind is if 474 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:12,520 Speaker 2: I lost control, I would sleep with my daughter. Thought, 475 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,960 Speaker 2: holy crow, this stuff must be very near the surface. 476 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 2: If this is what this guy answered. And that's all 477 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:26,960 Speaker 2: I can say to you is that I assume. And 478 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 2: here is where you truly need a psychiatrist. A psychiatrists 479 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:34,160 Speaker 2: would give you a great answer on this. I can 480 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:39,480 Speaker 2: only tell you that certain taboos are created, and this 481 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 2: is by society, not by biology, which can affect the 482 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 2: way we view people. I don't understand seeing an immediate 483 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:55,600 Speaker 2: relative in sexual terms. It is very foreign to me. Okay, 484 00:35:55,840 --> 00:36:00,400 Speaker 2: thank God, But I believe it's because I was extremely 485 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:06,200 Speaker 2: well acculturated. The values of the society worked with me. 486 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:13,600 Speaker 2: There is nothing unnatural about incest. There is something terrible 487 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:20,720 Speaker 2: morally about it, but nothing unnatural. And the that didn't 488 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:25,000 Speaker 2: work in the case of your father, I still hold 489 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 2: him responsible. Nobody put a gun to his head. It's 490 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:33,319 Speaker 2: terrible what he did. Using children for sex is to 491 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:36,280 Speaker 2: me the ultimate evil. 492 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:43,520 Speaker 1: This has been timeless wisdom with Dennis Prager. Visit dennispragger 493 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:47,080 Speaker 1: dot com for thousands of hours of Dennis's lectures, courses, 494 00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:51,120 Speaker 1: and classic radio programs, and to purchase Dennis Prager's Rational 495 00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:51,759 Speaker 1: Bibles