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Speaker 3: Welcome to Built Different. I'm Zach Clinton, your.

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Speaker 2: the Life Audio podcast Network. I'm proud to partner with

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Speaker 2: Life Audio and bring you entertaining, life changing, family friendly

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Speaker 2: podcasts for a new generation.

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Speaker 3: I Built Different.

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Speaker 2: Our mission is to provide encouragement, hope and challenge to

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Speaker 2: help push you past your limits and reach goals you

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Speaker 2: never thought possible. Colossians two, verse six says, So then,

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Speaker 2: just as you received Christ Jesus's Lord, continue to live

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Speaker 2: your lives in Him, rooted and built up in him.

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Speaker 3: Amen. Now let's roll.

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Speaker 2: What's going on everybody and welcome back into the Build

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Speaker 2: Different Podcasts is always I'll be your host, Doctor Zach Clinton,

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Speaker 2: and let me just start out by saying, today's not

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Speaker 2: just another episode, you guys, this is a moment of

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Speaker 2: American Association of Christian Counselors. Because this is episode three

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Speaker 2: hundred of the Build Different podcasts, and by the grace

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Speaker 2: of God, I was doing some math with my wife

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Speaker 2: just the other night. This marks two hundred and seventy

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Speaker 2: that we pray appointed people, back to truth, back to hope,

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Speaker 2: the glory. This isn't never been about numbers. It's always

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Speaker 2: been about impact. It's always been about obedience, It's always

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Speaker 2: been about stewardship. This whole podcast has been rooted and

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Speaker 2: anchored in Colossians Chapter two, Verses six and seven. That

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Speaker 2: remind us, so, then, just as you received Christ, Jesus

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Speaker 2: is Lord, continue to live your lives in Him, rooted

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Speaker 2: you were taught, and overflowing with thankfulness. That has been

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Speaker 2: the heartbeat behind Built Different from day one, and this

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Speaker 2: platform only exists to help people live, love, lead in

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Speaker 2: learn more like Jesus from the inside out. The only

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Speaker 2: He's opened doors, he's brought the right voices at the

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Speaker 2: may never fully see this side of eternity, to encourage

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Speaker 2: and to remind all of us what it truly means

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Speaker 2: to be built different, not by the world's standards, but

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Speaker 2: by His spirit. Every single day, It's been amazing to

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Speaker 2: see what God has done with this. Several occasions, this

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Speaker 2: podcast has reached the top twenty five in religion and

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Speaker 2: has just taken what was once Honestly, I'll just be

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Speaker 2: honest with you selfishly. I love doing this every week

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Speaker 2: because it encourages me. It builds me up in my

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Speaker 2: goodness in the grace of God, even in some people's

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Speaker 2: hope and prayer is that it is revealed within me,

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Speaker 2: That hope is always accessible, that hope is always available

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Speaker 2: because Hope is a person and his name is Jesus.

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Speaker 2: So to every listener, to every guest, to every person

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Speaker 2: First and foremost to my guy Ryan Garrett, who's back

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Speaker 2: there in the audio section. He every single week just

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Speaker 2: faithfully and obediently turns this resource into what it is

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Speaker 2: built different will not be a podcast without him and

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Speaker 2: For my dear friend, our vice president of Media, Brian McNulty,

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Speaker 2: Today's episode, you guys, because it's so special. For our

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Speaker 2: Tanner Morgan is the Ministry and Marketplace director of Uncommon Ministry,

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the nice Age, my dear friend, Tanner Morgan.

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Speaker 2: because you know he's used to coming out of locker

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Speaker 3: Tony Dungee is.

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Speaker 3: Hey, I see some cults gear out there, coaching coach.

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Speaker 1: How can I be most effective for you? And we'll

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Speaker 3: I'm Zach Clinton.

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Speaker 2: Right after this, you're listening to life Audio.

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Speaker 3: It's funny.

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Speaker 2: Tanna and I were talking backstage about this and you

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Speaker 2: He's just repurposing. He's just being redirected into it. Right,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and when I grew up, I was really blessed

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Speaker 1: And I'm writing that down. Said man, right now, football

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Speaker 1: you follow him and do what he does, This would

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Speaker 1: be good for you. So I get Donnie Shell as

438
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Speaker 1: a roommate. And I didn't know it at the time,

439
00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:32,879
Speaker 1: but now I'm rooming with the strongest Christian guy that

440
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Speaker 1: I've ever been around.

441
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Speaker 4: And I've watched these guys.

442
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Speaker 1: I watched them in high school and they're winning Super

443
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:42,159
Speaker 1: Bowls and they're my heroes, you know what I'm talking about.

444
00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:49,439
Speaker 1: And Donnie is reading his Bible every day in the morning,

445
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Speaker 1: six o'clock in the morning when we get up. He's

446
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Speaker 1: reading at ten o'clock at night after our meetings. And

447
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:57,480
Speaker 1: he's asked me what I'm reading and I said, well,

448
00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:00,480
Speaker 1: I'm reading the playbook trying to find out what the

449
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 1: strong safety does. I don't know what I'm supposed to do. No, no, no, man,

450
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:10,600
Speaker 1: you got to read your Bible. Thursday after practice. He says, Hey,

451
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:13,480
Speaker 1: after everything's over the night after the meetings, we have

452
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Speaker 1: a Bible study. You really need to come. So Coach

453
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:18,440
Speaker 1: Nol told me to follow him.

454
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Speaker 4: So I got it. He says, come to the Bible study.

455
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Speaker 4: I'm coming. So I go in. He takes me in.

456
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Speaker 4: There's twenty five.

457
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Speaker 1: Guys in there, and it's all my heroes, all the

458
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Speaker 1: guys I looked to el C.

459
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Speaker 4: Greenwood, J. G.

460
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Speaker 1: Thomas mel Blunt, John Stalworth, and they're in there studying

461
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Speaker 1: the Bible. And my mom taught me the Bible, and

462
00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:46,080
Speaker 1: I read the Bible when I was young. But these

463
00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:49,640
Speaker 1: guys said, hey, if you don't get your life right,

464
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Speaker 1: if you don't do things the right way, you can

465
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Speaker 1: make this team. You can win Super Bowls. It's not

466
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Speaker 1: going to make any difference. So I get go and

467
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:05,920
Speaker 1: follow these guys and I'm with Donnie and I miraculously

468
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,359
Speaker 1: make the team. We have about ten guys, get hurt

469
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Speaker 1: and all kind of different kind of stuff for me

470
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Speaker 1: to make the team. But being around these guys for

471
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Speaker 1: a year and saying, it's not the football, that's not

472
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Speaker 1: the most important thing in their lives. These guys were

473
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:26,480
Speaker 1: great family men. They had good what I was looking for,

474
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Speaker 1: looking for a wife, want to have kids. They're involved

475
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Speaker 1: in the community, doing everything right and.

476
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Speaker 4: Winning Super Bowl.

477
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Speaker 1: And I said, man, there's a reason why I got here.

478
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Speaker 1: I didn't know it at the time, but there was

479
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Speaker 1: a reason God wanted me to see that, and that's

480
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Speaker 1: when my life changed around. Well, we have a chapel

481
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Speaker 1: service now. Early on and there's a chapel speaker by

482
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Speaker 1: the name of Tony Evans. Oh yeah, oh yeah, a

483
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Speaker 1: dynamic guy. So I'm in there listening. I'm got my

484
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Speaker 1: notebook out writing, and he says he finishes up, and

485
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 1: he says, now you listen to me, and you expect

486
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 1: to hear some Christian talk because I'm doing the chapel. Well,

487
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:13,639
Speaker 1: I have to tell you when I leave here and

488
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Speaker 1: I go home, I'm going to be a Christian husband

489
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Speaker 1: and father, And when I go across the street, I'm

490
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Speaker 1: gonna be a Christian neighbor. And when I take my

491
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Speaker 1: wife to the grocery store, I'm gonna be a Christian shopper.

492
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Speaker 1: And when I'm out in the playing basketball with my

493
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Speaker 1: kids in the driveway, I'm gonna be a Christian athlete.

494
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Speaker 1: My point is, I'm a Christian all the time, no

495
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Speaker 1: matter what I do. I'm writing that down. And then

496
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Speaker 1: he says, what about you, for you guys Christians all

497
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Speaker 1: the time I had to sit there and think. I said, Man,

498
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Speaker 1: I'm a Christian in this chapel service, and I'm a

499
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Speaker 1: Christian when I'm at the Bible does it with the guys.

500
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Speaker 1: But when that guy blocks me in the back, I'm

501
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:09,160
Speaker 1: not really a Christian. And when I make a great

502
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 1: play and official throws the flag for passing affairs, I'm

503
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 1: not really a Christian. And I started thinking, you know what,

504
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 1: He's right, I need to be a Christian all the time.

505
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,119
Speaker 1: And that's when my life flipped around. I was twenty

506
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Speaker 1: one years old. That's when it flipped flow Floods.

507
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Speaker 4: Coach.

508
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Speaker 5: There's been a lot of talk in this room about vulnerability.

509
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Speaker 5: I mean, I think even earlier we had a moment

510
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Speaker 5: where man took the mask off, laid it at the

511
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Speaker 5: foot of the cross, lated at the foot of Jesus.

512
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Speaker 5: You deal with guys who are leading in very high

513
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Speaker 5: intense situations. I think of what you and Tom land

514
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Speaker 5: Fear and Paul Olsen do through uncomon ministry with the

515
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Speaker 5: NFL Coaches Fellowship, leading Bible studies with some of the

516
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Speaker 5: best NFL coaches in the country. And one of the

517
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Speaker 5: common themes that Thomas told me and what you guys

518
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Speaker 5: have talked about is vulnerability. Can you just talk about

519
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 5: how important it is for us as man, as we

520
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,640
Speaker 5: look to model what it looks like to follow Jesus,

521
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Speaker 5: on how we can practically live a life of vulnerability

522
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Speaker 5: and point others to Jesus.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, one of the crazy things about the NFL. You

524
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 1: get programmed not to show weakness. Okay, if I'm a player,

525
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Speaker 1: I can never let anybody think that I'm not on

526
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Speaker 1: top of my game, I'm not the best, that I

527
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Speaker 1: have any problems.

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Speaker 4: You can't do that.

529
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Speaker 1: As a coach, you can't do that because people will

530
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Speaker 1: take that for weakness. So we get programmed into I

531
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 1: got this all together, I'm the best, don't worry about me.

532
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 1: I've got it going. That's not the case, that's not true.

533
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Speaker 1: We all have problems, we all have issues, we all

534
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 1: have things we need help with. And so our mission

535
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 1: with the Uncommon Ministry is to get guys to understand

536
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 1: it's okay to share that, it's okay to let your

537
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 1: buddies know what you're struggling with and that you need

538
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 1: help because there's somebody that can help you, and then

539
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 1: in turn, you might be able to help someone else.

540
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Speaker 1: And that is really what I've found, especially ministering with

541
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Speaker 1: young men, that is so important because I've got six

542
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Speaker 1: boys at.

543
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 4: Home now, and none of them want to ever let.

544
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 1: You think they got anything wrong, no problems, I did

545
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 1: I got this. I got this. But sometimes we've got

546
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Speaker 1: to be vulnerable. And that's what's great about being here, coach.

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Speaker 2: You know, as we talk about vulnerability, I was just

548
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Speaker 2: thinking of the life of job. He lost a lot

549
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Speaker 2: of things, one of them was his children. And I

550
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Speaker 2: know that something that you've gone through in your past

551
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Speaker 2: is the loss of the son. And I would just

552
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Speaker 2: love for you to just vulnerably share with men in

553
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Speaker 2: this room who have something that they've lost, whether it's

554
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Speaker 2: a family member, whether it's a dream, whatever it.

555
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Speaker 3: Might be in their lives.

556
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Speaker 2: Just what did God reveal to you about himself in

557
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Speaker 2: the midst of a powerless season.

558
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Speaker 1: Yeah, our oldest son, James, died at eighteen years old.

559
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Speaker 1: We've got another son, our third son, Jordan, has a real, rare,

560
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 1: rare genetic disease. It's called insensitivity to pain. He doesn't

561
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Speaker 1: feel any pain at all, and he actually we got

562
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Speaker 1: him diagnosed at Johns Hopkins in Baltimore. The doctor told

563
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Speaker 1: us he had read about cases, but he'd never seen one.

564
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Speaker 1: He said, he's probably not going to make it to

565
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Speaker 1: two or three years old. Everything I've read about it,

566
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Speaker 1: these kids don't survive. But Jordan has survived. He's twenty

567
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Speaker 1: five now, he's flourished. But it's crazy. He doesn't feel

568
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Speaker 1: any pain, and he would do He's had about seventy

569
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Speaker 1: surgeries because.

570
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Speaker 4: Break bones without knowing it. He does crazy stuff.

571
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Speaker 1: When his little kid, he used to jump off the

572
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 1: slides and just do stuff because it didn't hurt. And

573
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Speaker 1: watching him grow up, my wife and I got the

574
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Speaker 1: idea of people say, if God's good, why does he

575
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Speaker 1: allow pain in your life? And Jordan without being able

576
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Speaker 1: to feel pain, there's a lot of damage to himself,

577
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Speaker 1: and that has showed us that pain is not always

578
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 1: a bad things. Sometimes pain tells you I need to

579
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Speaker 1: stop doing what I'm doing and do something a little differently.

580
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Speaker 1: So we're kind of learning this watching Jordan grow up.

581
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Speaker 1: And then two thousand and five, I'm coaching the Indianapolis Colts.

582
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Speaker 1: Got the best team I've ever had, without question.

583
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Speaker 4: We went our.

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Speaker 1: First thirteen games, we don't We're thirteen to oh, we

585
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 1: don't even have a close game. We're just killing everybody,

586
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 1: and everybody saying this is the year the Colts are

587
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 1: finally going to do it. They're finally going to win

588
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, and we're kind of cruising through the season. Thanksgiving,

589
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Speaker 1: my son Jordan comes up to visit us. He's hanging

590
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Speaker 1: out with us, we have Thanksgiving, he goes back home play.

591
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Speaker 4: A game on that Sunday. We win the game and

592
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Speaker 4: get a.

593
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 1: Call on Monday and it's the police department in Tampa.

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Speaker 4: You Jordan's done. His parents.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we hate to tell you this, but we've found

596
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 1: a body and he's not alive. And that is something

597
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 1: that no parent, you don't want to hear that, and

598
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,719
Speaker 1: you're not prepared for it, and we weren't prepared for it,

599
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 1: and we didn't know how to take it. We went down,

600
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 1: flew down to Tampa, investigated is our son, and man,

601
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Speaker 1: what are you going to do? And it was probably

602
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Speaker 1: the most painful thing that I've ever been through. But

603
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Speaker 1: watching Jordan, I kind of said, you know, sometimes pain

604
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Speaker 1: is there for a reason, and it turns you back

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00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 1: to towards the Lord. So my wife and I both said,

606
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 1: we have praised God through all these different times in

607
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 1: my career and in my life, praised them when good

608
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 1: things happen. Now we've got this terrible situation. I've got

609
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Speaker 1: to show people that I'm still gonna praise the Lord.

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Speaker 4: Even when it's tough. Oh So we did the funeral.

611
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 1: I talked about it and what it meant and thanked

612
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 1: everybody for the support that they had.

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00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 4: I went back to work.

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Speaker 1: The last game of the season, we won, and we've if

615
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 1: a fourteen win team. We go to the playoffs and

616
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 1: everybody's expecting this to be our super Bowl team. In

617
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 1: our first playoff game in Pittsburgh, upsets us and they

618
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 1: go to the super Bowl and win. Because I'm a

619
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:21,400
Speaker 1: former stiller, I clap for them. But it was tough.

620
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 1: That was difficult. So we lose the sun. We struggle

621
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Speaker 1: through that and we come back and still give God

622
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,359
Speaker 1: the glory. Now we lose with the best team I've

623
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Speaker 1: ever had. How am I going to handle this? And

624
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,279
Speaker 1: what am I going to be like? And is it

625
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 1: time to give it up? At these two big devastating disappointments,

626
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 1: and I remember my wife and I talked and saying,

627
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 1: you know what, if we stop now, people will say, yeah,

628
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 1: you're a convenient Christian's. When everything's good, you can handle it.

629
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Speaker 1: But let a little adversity come and you can't handle it.

630
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 1: To say, we got to come back and show people

631
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Speaker 1: that we really take our face seriously. So we come

632
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,400
Speaker 1: back the next year and we don't have the same team.

633
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:07,799
Speaker 1: We lost Edrin James, who was a Hall of Fame

634
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 1: running back. He leaves in free agency. David Thornton was

635
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:14,720
Speaker 1: our defensive captain and the Tennessee Titans gave him about

636
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 1: five million dollars more than we could pay him.

637
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:18,320
Speaker 4: And we lose him.

638
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 1: We had some injuries that year, so we've got a

639
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 1: good team in two thousand and six, but not the

640
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 1: same team. We end up winning it all, and that

641
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:31,319
Speaker 1: was the year after all the disappointments, we won it.

642
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 1: What I went through was kind of preparing us, and

643
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Speaker 1: that's why you've got to be vulnerable. Third game of

644
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:43,720
Speaker 1: the year, we're playing Jacksonville Jaguars. It's a tight game.

645
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,880
Speaker 1: Reggie Wayne catches the ball, puts it in the position,

646
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 1: we win the game. We're all celebrating in the locker room.

647
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Speaker 1: Reggie's had a big game. Pr Director comes to me

648
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,239
Speaker 1: and pulls me to the side. Tony, I don't know

649
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 1: how you're going to say this, but you've got to

650
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 1: tell Reggie his brother got killed in a car accident

651
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 1: this morning.

652
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Speaker 2: And wow.

653
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:07,799
Speaker 1: But we go from this uphourik High just winning the

654
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 1: game and Reggie makes the biggest play in the game.

655
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 1: I got to tell him that we got a message

656
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 1: that his brother didn't make it, and that brought the

657
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 1: locker room together. I mean, there was so much of just, hey,

658
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 1: we're in this together, and we got to support Reggie.

659
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:31,839
Speaker 1: And we fast forward to the Super Bowl and we're

660
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 1: playing in Miami, playing against the Chicago Bears, and Reggie

661
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:39,280
Speaker 1: Wayne catches the first touchdown pass in the Super Bowl,

662
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 1: scores our first points and he comes over to the

663
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:44,840
Speaker 1: bench and he's crying and I'm crying because we both

664
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 1: know that we're in the super Bowl and we've are

665
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:53,360
Speaker 1: able to show people that that disappointment, that tough time

666
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 1: didn't stop us.

667
00:36:55,719 --> 00:37:04,879
Speaker 4: So good or coach.

668
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 5: Staying on the theme of family, I remember when I

669
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 5: was an undrafted free agent nobody at the Pittsburgh Steelers.

670
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 5: One of our first meetings, Mike Tomlin gets up there

671
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,799
Speaker 5: and he's talking about his journey in coaching, and he

672
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,399
Speaker 5: goes to tell a story about he's some young dB

673
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 5: coach out of the University of Cincinnati and he just

674
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 5: gets hired by Tony Dungee, a guy he's looked up

675
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:26,880
Speaker 5: to one of the first meetings that you have with

676
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,240
Speaker 5: in one on one you call him into his office

677
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 5: and he's nervous, he's excited. As you open the door,

678
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,800
Speaker 5: he walks in, he steps over a PlayStation or an Xbox,

679
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 5: steps over your son, and he remembers he told the team,

680
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 5: you know, I thought the NFL is going to be well,

681
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 5: it's football or nothing. And you modeled to him, the

682
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:47,319
Speaker 5: guy who just retired and had a Hall of Fame

683
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 5: career himself, what it looks like to be excellent in

684
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 5: football and excellent in family. And when I think about

685
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 5: NFL coaching and coaching in general, you are the example

686
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 5: of what it looks like to be excellent in your

687
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 5: profession of coaching football, but excellent family.

688
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 4: How did you do it? Then?

689
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 5: How did you modelate to so many coaches that were

690
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 5: mentored by you?

691
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:09,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, Mike Tomlin has told me that story too. He said,

692
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 1: I thought I was coming in the big time to

693
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 1: the NFL and it was just one hundred percent football.

694
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 1: And the first time I came into your office, that's

695
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:18,800
Speaker 1: what I saw.

696
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 4: But I knew you were good at it, so I

697
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 4: knew you did it didn't have to be what I

698
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 4: thought it was.

699
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 1: And I think that helped him and shaped him that

700
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:31,400
Speaker 1: he could be a great coach and still be family oriented. Well,

701
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 1: Chuck Knowles showed me that, and I played for him

702
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 1: for two years. I coached for him for eight years,

703
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:43,760
Speaker 1: and he always put family first. Always put family first.

704
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:47,320
Speaker 1: We had family Saturday practices where everybody brought their kids

705
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 1: on Saturday.

706
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 4: And that's just the way he did it.

707
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:53,800
Speaker 1: We're all people talk about coaches working laid and overtime

708
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,799
Speaker 1: and sleeping in their offices and all that. I never

709
00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 1: missed a dinner with my family when I worked for

710
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 1: coach No. I always hey, he said, you guys need

711
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:08,879
Speaker 1: to be home. So I saw that, and I saw

712
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 1: you could do it well, and I modeled that, and

713
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 1: I wanted my guys to understand that, my players and

714
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 1: my staff, and then, you know, that would be the

715
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,320
Speaker 1: first thing I would say if you ever have a problem,

716
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 1: a situation where you need to go home.

717
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 4: I don't care what it is, I don't care where.

718
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 1: We are in practice. You make sure you take care

719
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 1: of that first. Coaches, you're going to be home. We're

720
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 1: going to get you home in a decent time. My

721
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:36,799
Speaker 1: wife had the wives group the same way, and they

722
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:41,320
Speaker 1: did things together because we wanted to feel the same.

723
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 1: Coach Nole always took his wife on the road trips

724
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,400
Speaker 1: on the plane and she sat next to him in

725
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 1: first class, and as a player, I kind of got it,

726
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 1: but I didn't really understand. But he wanted to show

727
00:39:56,160 --> 00:40:00,080
Speaker 1: us that as important as we were, we were.

728
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 4: Not as important as his wife. I love it. I

729
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:03,279
Speaker 4: love it.

730
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:07,800
Speaker 1: So when I become head coach of the Pittsburgh of

731
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:10,319
Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, where do you think my wife

732
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 1: sat on the plane right next to me in first plays?

733
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 4: Steal uh.

734
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:18,320
Speaker 1: But for a lot of players that was cool because

735
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 1: they saw me as coach and they saw me up

736
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 1: at the podium in the meeting rooms. But that gave

737
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 1: them a chance to see me as husband. Okay, And

738
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:30,360
Speaker 1: I would take my boys on the road trips and

739
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 1: you know, they're in the back of the plane and

740
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 1: they're ball boys and running out to get the tea

741
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:41,360
Speaker 1: or whatever. But man, Coach Dungee's got his family around

742
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 1: and they're important. And I think that sent a good

743
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:48,319
Speaker 1: message and I was proud of that.

744
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 4: Man.

745
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:54,840
Speaker 2: Well, coach, you've always prioritized again faith, family, and I

746
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 2: don't know about you, guys in the room. But when

747
00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:58,880
Speaker 2: I look at Coach Dungee, which I look at you,

748
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:02,880
Speaker 2: and I think of the word leadership, the word impact,

749
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 2: the word influence, the word's humility.

750
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 3: I was actually eating dinner with a guy named doctor J.

751
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 2: Strack from Student Leadership University recently, and he shared a

752
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 2: story of Coach Dungee when he was invited down to

753
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 2: speak to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and there was this

754
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 2: young rookie coach and he had heard the news of him,

755
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 2: and he was excited to speak for him. He looks

756
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:25,840
Speaker 2: in this room and there was this kind of taller

757
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 2: slender man that was unstacking chairs and putting them out

758
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 2: for the players to have a chapel. He thought that

759
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:33,959
Speaker 2: the guy worked for the hotel, and so he poked

760
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 2: his head and said, hey, do the Buccaneers are they

761
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:38,360
Speaker 2: doing their Bible studying here? And the guy kind of

762
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:41,319
Speaker 2: turned around and said, uh, yeah, I'd say so.

763
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:43,720
Speaker 3: He thought, okay, walks away.

764
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:45,760
Speaker 2: He got convicted in his spear, like maybe I should

765
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:47,319
Speaker 2: go back out and even introduce myself to the guy.

766
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 2: I didn't even catch his name. So he introduces himself, Hi,

767
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 2: I'm doctor J. What's her name, and the guy says,

768
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 2: my name's My name's Tony with a big smile on

769
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 2: his face.

770
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:57,359
Speaker 3: He saw, it's nice to meet you, Tony. He walks away,

771
00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:00,720
Speaker 3: and then while he's walking away, boom, it hits him.

772
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 4: No, that can't be.

773
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:06,319
Speaker 3: He walks back to the room and he said, what

774
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 3: had happened to be Coach Tony, And Coach Tony has

775
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:11,399
Speaker 3: a big spi and says, that's right.

776
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 2: And when I think of that story, the word that

777
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 2: comes to mind is uncommon.

778
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:17,400
Speaker 3: Coach.

779
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 2: You are an uncommon man, You are an uncommon leader,

780
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:23,359
Speaker 2: You are an uncommon husband. And what I would love

781
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 2: for you just to share with these guys, where did

782
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:29,320
Speaker 2: this idea of being uncommon come from?

783
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 3: And then what is just the word for them?

784
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 2: Because they're going to leave here and they're gonna go home, Coach,

785
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:35,319
Speaker 2: and they're going to take everything that they absorbed. It

786
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:37,240
Speaker 2: was like drinking out of a fire hose all weekend,

787
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 2: and they're excited and they're ignited. But then they're going

788
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 2: to go home and life's going to hit him in

789
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 2: the face. And so my question is how can they

790
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 2: live the uncommon life?

791
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 4: Uncommon?

792
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 1: In ten and I are both involved in the in

793
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 1: the ministry, but it really came from two sources.

794
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:53,800
Speaker 4: The first one was my dad.

795
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 1: My dad used to tell us all the time that

796
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 1: your dungeons, you're different, don't have to do what the

797
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 1: world does.

798
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 4: If the world is.

799
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 1: Doing something you want to do it, good do it.

800
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:09,840
Speaker 1: But if everybody's doing something you don't want to do,

801
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 1: you do something else and get them to follow. You

802
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:15,800
Speaker 1: don't follow just because everybody else.

803
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:18,359
Speaker 4: Is doing it. Over and over and over and over.

804
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 4: He would tell us that.

805
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 1: I get to the University of Minnesota, I'm our coach there.

806
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:28,319
Speaker 1: First meeting we have, he said, I'm looking for uncommon men,

807
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:32,319
Speaker 1: because you can't win the championship with common people, with

808
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 1: average people. I need uncommon And then he said, there's

809
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 1: two ways you can be uncommon. You can either have

810
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 1: a talent that's so rare that nobody else has it,

811
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:45,360
Speaker 1: or you can have a drive in your heart that

812
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 1: makes you work so hard that you do things that

813
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 1: everybody else could do but the average person won't. And

814
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:53,320
Speaker 1: as soon as he said that, I said, that's me.

815
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 1: That's the way I want to be uncommon. I want

816
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:58,879
Speaker 1: to I'll work everybody here and do it that way. Well,

817
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 1: then as I got to put and I'm reading. I'm

818
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 1: in this Bible study and I get to Matthew chapter seven,

819
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:12,839
Speaker 1: and Jesus is saying that there's a broad way that

820
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:16,319
Speaker 1: everybody follows, and then there's a little narrow path that

821
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 1: nobody's on, and that's the right path, the path that

822
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 1: follows me be on that uncommon narrow path. And so

823
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:29,800
Speaker 1: that's what I wanted to be, and that's kind of

824
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:30,839
Speaker 1: what I set out to do.

825
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:32,880
Speaker 4: I don't have to do what everybody else does.

826
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:36,360
Speaker 1: They don't have to do it just average, just okay,

827
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:39,319
Speaker 1: do it as well as I can do it, but

828
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:41,799
Speaker 1: then make sure I'm on the right path, even if

829
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:43,359
Speaker 1: nobody else is doing it that way.

830
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:45,880
Speaker 4: And that struck me.

831
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 1: The last time I was here, which was several years,

832
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 1: many years ago, I talked about a job interview that

833
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:57,240
Speaker 1: I had with a team, and I was with the owner.

834
00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 1: He was looking for a head coach, and he said,

835
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:04,720
Speaker 1: you don't really coach the way i've seen people coach.

836
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 1: You know, you don't yell, you don't raise your voice

837
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:12,880
Speaker 1: a lot, you don't use any profanity. And I said, no,

838
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 1: I don't. I think I can get it done a

839
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 1: different way. I think guys will respect me if we

840
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 1: developed the loving relationship, and when they know that I

841
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 1: care about them, they'll do what I asked them to

842
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 1: do because they want to. And he said, I've never

843
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:30,800
Speaker 1: seen that where I don't think that'll work.

844
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 4: In the NFL, and he didn't hire me.

845
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 1: Wow, but I was committed to that's the way I'm

846
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 1: going to do it, even though it wasn't the common way.

847
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 4: It's uncommon path. That's the way I'm going to do it.

848
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 3: Man. Any last questions you might have it.

849
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 5: But then I can listen to coach talk all day.

850
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 3: I could as well coach.

851
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 2: One thing I wanted to follow up with then, is

852
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 2: with uncommon ministry.

853
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:55,840
Speaker 3: Really, it's a question to both of you, guys.

854
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:58,279
Speaker 2: I don't know about you guys, but I want to

855
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 2: get more involved. I want to be as involved as

856
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 2: possible with all pro dads. I mean you guys who

857
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 2: wear so many different hats. You lead Bible studies with

858
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:08,719
Speaker 2: NFL coaches all the time, You have such influence and

859
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:10,959
Speaker 2: you are still a coach to so many. I'm even

860
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 2: I want to ask Tanner a question real quick before

861
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:12,879
Speaker 2: we leave.

862
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 3: What's it like working with this guy?

863
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 2: University of Minnesota quarterback, following in his footsteps, but getting

864
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 2: to see the.

865
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 3: Type of man and leader he is that's been amazing.

866
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 5: I mean, for him to even sign off that I

867
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 5: could join Uncommon Ministry was a big sigh relief for

868
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:26,720
Speaker 5: me because I had to, you know, get the boss

869
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 5: man to agree it. But for me, you know, I

870
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 5: grew up adoring the coach Don as the guy who

871
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 5: is the gold standard, who is the example in football

872
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 5: because I grew up a football fan of what it

873
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 5: looks like to love Jesus and be excellent at your craft.

874
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 4: And so to be.

875
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 5: Able to work with coach Dongee, to work with Tom Lamfear,

876
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 5: who's a guy who has made a huge impact on

877
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 5: Tony's life, and work with Brian Slipka. For me, man,

878
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:51,880
Speaker 5: I'm the luckiest guy in the world, and I'm very blessed.

879
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:55,280
Speaker 2: I love that coach again. Thank you for the impact,

880
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 2: Thank you for the influence. How can we, though, get

881
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:00,240
Speaker 2: more involved with all that you're doing and how can

882
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 2: we let me say this this wait, how can we

883
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:05,280
Speaker 2: be praying for you in this new season of life?

884
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 1: Well, I think just pray for me that God will

885
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 1: show me the right place to be. I know I'm

886
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 1: going to be more involved in the uncommon work that

887
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 1: we're doing. But where's that platform going to be where

888
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:22,360
Speaker 1: I can give this message to guys, young men especially

889
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:24,400
Speaker 1: who are looking for the right way, And that's what

890
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 1: I want to encourage them. They you can be excellent

891
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:30,880
Speaker 1: at whatever you choose to do, and you can be

892
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 1: uncommon if you'll be excellent and put the Lord first.

893
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:37,760
Speaker 1: Because there's a lot of people that can be excellent,

894
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:40,799
Speaker 1: but there's not everybody that's going to be excellent and

895
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 1: put the Lord first.

896
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 3: Wow, excellence is never an accident.

897
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:52,320
Speaker 2: Coaching well, I think Coach Dungee is uncommon is because

898
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:55,880
Speaker 2: you really do live the unashamed life. Coach Tony Dungee.

899
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Speaker 2: We're grateful for you, all of us here ignite. We

900
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 2: love you, We appreciate you. Can my friend love you

901
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:03,439
Speaker 2: and appreciate you. Thank you for your time. Guys, say,

902
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:05,800
Speaker 2: if you want to commit to praying alongside of me

903
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 2: and all of us here ignite, and if you are

904
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 2: just amazed and blown away and moved by what God

905
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 2: is continuing to do through both of these men's lives

906
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:15,399
Speaker 2: with Tanner but also with Coach Dungee, can we give

907
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 2: them one more round of applause and just thank them

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Speaker 2: for being here with us.