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Speaker 1: He's editor in chief of Breitbart News and a New

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Speaker 1: York Times best selling author, and on this podcast it

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Speaker 1: brings deep research, prescient analysis, and world class guests. He's

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Speaker 1: Alex Marlow and this is the Alex Marlowe Show.

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Speaker 2: All Right, Marlow Show and Friends.

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Speaker 3: Today, Emma Joe Mooren is back, and I'll tell you

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Speaker 3: i'ma Joe.

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Speaker 2: I just got off of.

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Speaker 3: Vacation, which is a very tough thing to do. And

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Speaker 3: have you ever been somewhere warm in your life? Because

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Speaker 3: you're from Canada and then you move New York. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: have you ever been warm?

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Speaker 4: I go somewhere warm?

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Speaker 5: Is that I have to stay away from the sun

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Speaker 5: because it's like way too much on my skin, too fast.

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Speaker 5: So I technically have but I'll put it in like

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Speaker 5: scare quotes. I've been on vacations.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so, so I was on vacation and you feel

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Speaker 3: a deep sense of darkness wash over you when you return.

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Speaker 3: But I'll tell you that's not the point. It's a

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Speaker 3: that's not the point of the show today. The point

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Speaker 3: of the show today was very few stories made it

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Speaker 3: all the way to me on the northwestern coast of

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Speaker 3: the island of Maui in Hawaii. But one of them

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Speaker 3: was how horrible things were going for my friends in

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Speaker 3: New York City under the experiment under the communist mayor

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Speaker 3: you live there, what were you observing?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I literally walked home from work yesterday and passed

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Speaker 5: by like a mountd because it's all mounds a dead

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Speaker 5: rat laying flat next to a pile of garbage like

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Speaker 5: it's it's it's truly like a New York garbage and

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Speaker 5: rats storm that has been taped into the snowstorm.

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Speaker 3: You know what's very dark about that is the fact

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Speaker 3: that the rats dead, because you feel like the rats

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Speaker 3: will be thriving right now.

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Speaker 5: No, No, that's that's perfect, Like it felt like it

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Speaker 5: perfectly fit because it's like very cold and it's very

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Speaker 5: and it's so quick to essential in terms of like

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Speaker 5: the whole scene. If you'd come here and you'd see

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Speaker 5: how perfect the aesthetic is. But you know, mom, Donnie

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Speaker 5: has been an abject failure. And I tweeted this. You know,

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Speaker 5: people thought that this would be you know, he would

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Speaker 5: be this scary communist who was like total destruction and

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Speaker 5: it's worse than that, and that he's utterly mediocre and

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Speaker 5: impotent and he's totally ineffective, which is it's like not

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Speaker 5: like he's even based like for the left, like he's

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Speaker 5: just useless. And that's really what the dead rat, I

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Speaker 5: think is a symbol of to me is like, you know,

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Speaker 5: the revolution. The revolution is a snowbank that's been sitting

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Speaker 5: there for ten days. The reason why the garbage is

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Speaker 5: piling up is because the snow banks are basically blocks

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Speaker 5: I mean, I've been reading the post following this because

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Speaker 5: I'm trying to understand why why this is so horrific,

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Speaker 5: and everybody that the post is interviewed because they're just

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Speaker 4: Of man on the streets stuff.

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Speaker 5: Nobody's giving getting any answers because there is none, and

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Speaker 5: these guys are saying, you know, they have like og

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Speaker 5: New Yorkers being like I've literally never seen this.

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Speaker 4: I heard a story today.

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Speaker 5: You know, people are slipping and falling and breaking bones

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Speaker 5: and stuff like that. Women are vice especially hard for

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Speaker 4: But basically what's.

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Speaker 5: Going on is you have this snow that's been piling

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Speaker 4: A little bit above zero. And it hasn't happened.

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Speaker 5: We've stayed below zero, like well below zero, well below freezing.

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Speaker 5: So you have four foot mounds of snow that are

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Speaker 3: Okay, So this is the main thing that I'm trying

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Speaker 2: Let's take them one at a time.

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Speaker 3: Let's start with the trash, because I had heard there's

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Speaker 3: been no trash pickups in January the twenty fourth. Maybe

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Speaker 5: Today's February fifth, and many areas of the city have

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Speaker 5: it can't the trash can't be picked up because you

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Speaker 5: the post. It's causing total like a total breakdown kind

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Speaker 4: I mean there's total gridlock. Like I said, dead.

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Speaker 5: Rodents around the garbage. That is just they've just frozen

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Speaker 5: third world, which is pure mom, Donnie, his vision is

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Speaker 3: It sounds like it is. So let's talk about the ice.

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Speaker 3: So the ice is one where there has been ice before.

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Speaker 3: This is not we're not getting just no, it's not

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Speaker 4: Well, so that's exactly right, that's the problem.

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Speaker 5: And you know, I don't know how how much the

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Speaker 5: But yeah, exactly, they didn't know how to deal with

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Speaker 4: They didn't do that. So this storm was on January

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Speaker 3: So I guess the question is, has there been any

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Speaker 3: And so now we're here, and so what is what's

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Speaker 4: So there's no straight answer every agency.

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Speaker 5: So I guess there would be a few agencies that

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Speaker 4: So it's like this circle of people, like a circle of.

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Speaker 5: Excuses between agencies, and nobody is taking credit for it,

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Speaker 3: So we're in this experiment in socialism in New York City.

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Speaker 3: I famously endorsed over Mom Donnie because I wanted to

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Speaker 2: It's true, it's a reality.

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Speaker 3: But then again, I'm not sure how much weight my

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Speaker 3: Here is the point the socialist experiment is going on.

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Speaker 3: He's talking constantly about agree of communities. He's talking constantly

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Speaker 2: That's been his priority list.

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Speaker 3: In the meantime, people are literally dying they can't get

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Speaker 5: So that's the craziest part about this story is you

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Speaker 4: So it seems like there is no end in sight.

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Speaker 5: And that's why I always try to resist the the

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Speaker 5: But the thing about accelerating is that it never works out,

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Speaker 4: No, that isn't what it happens.

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Speaker 5: But it happens is somehow you give them an inch

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Speaker 5: and they drive a truck through it and consolidate that power.

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Speaker 5: Especially the left is excellent at that. And that's been

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Speaker 4: It's it's a DSA state.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right, it's Democrats Socialist of America. And I

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Speaker 5: It's like, you see, the failures are right in front

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Speaker 2: What is the angle on.

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Speaker 3: That trash is piling up, and there's dead rats everywhere,

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Speaker 2: So much ice. I honestly feel like that's what's happening.

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Speaker 3: Why have we accepted that when we're paying the highest

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Speaker 4: Plague on the city. It's not nothing, It's not just snow.

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Speaker 3: So one thing that I think is essential to understand

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Speaker 3: Though I got to say, I really enjoyed those pointers

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Speaker 2: How to shovel snow.

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Speaker 4: He's doing the economic populism.

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Speaker 5: He's also young, he's like good looking. He has he

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Speaker 3: So this guy Antonio Delgado, he's the lieutenant governor. He's

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Speaker 4: For yes, she's very weak.

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Speaker 5: Lee almost killed her last time, which no shade at

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Speaker 5: Lee Zelden. He's a very strong candidate obviously, but the

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Speaker 2: No, but that was a surprise. It was like a

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a big deal in New York, right.

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Speaker 3: And and that's yeah exactly, that's a huge, hugely much

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Speaker 5: It's it's interesting because Kathy hochel I don't think really

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Speaker 4: It's not like she's like, you know, a die hard

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Speaker 3: So here's what I'm curious about, is it are they

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Speaker 3: Feels like they're just they've got some other agenda, either

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Speaker 5: I don't think he because you know, he's really and

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Speaker 5: this isn't me reading like Tea Leaves. I mean, he's

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Speaker 5: very explicit about this. He really separates two classes of

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Speaker 5: citizens it seems in his city, and then one is

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Speaker 5: an upper class and one is a second class, and

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Speaker 5: the second class is the rich. Those people are constantly

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Speaker 5: demonized and they're looked at as to be responsible for

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Speaker 5: creating a nice living situation for everybody else. And he

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Speaker 5: has no problem like robbing and looting them in order

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Speaker 5: to do that. So in his mind he is doing

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Speaker 5: the right thing. He's like doing good governance or something,

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Speaker 5: And that seems to be like a real genuine belief

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Speaker 5: in like ideology for him, and I guess for those

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Speaker 5: like him, I don't think that they have a sinister

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Speaker 5: secret plan to like destroy anything. I think that they

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Speaker 5: really think they have it figured out, and everybody before

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Speaker 5: them has just not had the political will, someone like

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Speaker 5: Kathy Hochel, right, you know, in mom Donnie's mind, And

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Speaker 5: you know, I don't know if this is the case

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Speaker 5: for Delgado. I don't know, but maybe Delgado has factors

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Speaker 5: that he has to think about, and he probably has

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Speaker 5: some more maturity than'm Donnie's. Well'm Donnie probably thinks that, yeah,

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Speaker 5: let the rich go, you know, and we'll have our

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Speaker 5: middle class, our new middle class, come in and uplift

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Speaker 5: them and will be now a more egalitarian city. I

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Speaker 5: think that's his vision. And for anybody who can't afford it,

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Speaker 5: don't worry. The government is going to buy up all

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Speaker 5: the real estate from the evil landlords.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 3: The landlords evil landlords, and they're rent controlled so they

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Speaker 3: have cap how much money they can make apartments. It's

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Speaker 3: it all feels like this is all going to fail. Clearly,

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Speaker 3: it's going to fail on paper. None of it adds up,

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Speaker 3: none of the math is there, and it feels like

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Speaker 3: the design.

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Speaker 2: Is to destroy the system. And that just feels like

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Speaker 2: what's going on. It feels like that's what we're witnessing,

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Speaker 2: and I just hope people get it.

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Speaker 3: But it really is universal because you see the leader,

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Speaker 3: the front runner by far other front runner now for

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Speaker 3: the Democrat primary in twenty twenty eighth, Gavin Newsom, who

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Speaker 3: is no record. And I go through all the stuff

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Speaker 3: constantly on the show, listing all the things from homelessness,

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Speaker 3: to the horrible airports, to the horrible traffic, to the

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Speaker 3: horrible crime.

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Speaker 2: To the huge disunity, to the.

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Speaker 3: War on democracy, trying to redistrict in a way specifically

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Speaker 3: to disenfranchised Republicans. We count ballots for two weeks. We

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Speaker 3: have no voter ID. It's this guy does not like democracy.

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Speaker 3: He does not tolerate any sort of opposition. And his

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Speaker 3: track record is he let half the state burn down,

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Speaker 3: and he's just campaigning throughout the country for president. He's

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Speaker 3: not even present when the Trump administration is here in

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Speaker 3: La trying to get people's businesses up and moving, trying

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Speaker 3: to get people with shovels in the ground so they

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Speaker 3: can rebuild. He doesn't care because he's busy posing in

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Speaker 3: front of a freight train when he is claiming he's

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Speaker 3: going to build a high speed rail.

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Speaker 2: So he posed in front of a freight.

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Speaker 4: Train because he appear back to that, Yeah, back to that,

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Speaker 4: we're back on.

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Speaker 2: High speed rail. Oh, you'll get caught up on the

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Speaker 2: shows and you'll.

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Speaker 4: See me back on the last episode of.

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Speaker 2: He's on it now. He's a high speedal guy.

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Speaker 3: And I'm just wondering, it's such a horrible effort. It's

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Speaker 3: such a pathetic effort. I'm just I'm trying to understand

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Speaker 3: are these guys even trying. Are they trying to actually

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Speaker 3: govern effectively, because it feels like everything they're doing is

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Speaker 3: it's not just not working, it's really stupid, like a

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Speaker 3: lot of it's just genuinely stupid.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that Newsim and Mom Donnie are different.

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Speaker 5: I think that Mom Donnie actually has like touched grass

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Speaker 5: in a way that Newishim hasn't you know.

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Speaker 4: I know that Mom Donnie is obviously an elite. Obviously

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Speaker 4: he is.

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Speaker 5: But I also like he lived in a storia, like

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Speaker 5: he is clearly surrounded. Like I don't think that the

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Speaker 5: Democrats Socialists, at least not in New York, are like

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Speaker 5: a totally elite bourgeois party in the way that they

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Speaker 5: can be in California and elsewhere in democratics strongholds like

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Speaker 5: the Democrats soles are like are like populous and they're

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Speaker 5: just misguided and dumb populists. But Gavin Newsom I don't

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Speaker 5: see as as a democratic socialist like he is, I

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Speaker 5: guess a socialist, but it's a different flavor.

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Speaker 4: He has this really bourgeois detached.

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Speaker 5: Like like almost like from a parallel world to the

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Speaker 5: way that the people who he's serving live, and to

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Speaker 5: be preoccupied with high speed like he's not even I

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Speaker 5: don't even think he has the wherewithal It's not that

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Speaker 5: he's not trying. I don't think he has the wherewithal

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Speaker 5: to orient himself into what matters because he's at the

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Speaker 5: French laundry.

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Speaker 4: He doesn't even know what matters.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, noteworthy, all right, but I see the list of

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Speaker 3: cringe inducing just absolutely over the top. Crazy South the

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Speaker 3: Democrats are seeing is not only confined to newsome.

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Speaker 2: Kamala Harris is now.

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Speaker 3: Starting to ramp up her inevitable presidential campaign. We knew

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Speaker 3: she was probably not going, Yeah, knew she's probab gonna

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Speaker 3: run because she's opting out of the governor race, which

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Speaker 3: would be a cakewalk for her, which is very exciting

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Speaker 3: for me from a content front, because she's bad content

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Speaker 3: In general, she's good and I wouldn't say bad.

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Speaker 2: She's not a great character for me.

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Speaker 3: And now there actually is this very odd scenario where

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Speaker 3: you could see a Republican somehow win, which is it's remote,

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Speaker 3: but you know, Chad Bianco and Steve Hilton seemed like

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Speaker 3: decent people, so.

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Speaker 4: We're we're hoping the top two pulling.

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Speaker 3: They're the top two, Yeah right, but they're splitting thirty

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Speaker 3: thirty five percent of Republican vote versus the rast that's

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Speaker 3: going to Democrats. But you know, she opted out on that,

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Speaker 3: which would have been a good job and a prestigious job.

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Speaker 3: But she's not so indicate she's probably gonna run for president,

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Speaker 3: and she's launched a political twitter called Headquarters Underscore six

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Speaker 3: seven because she thinks that's gonna appeal to young people.

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Speaker 3: But I gotta tell you, my five and seven year

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Speaker 3: are already over that joke.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, like she's something that it's like, is she trying

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Speaker 5: to get the vote of like twelve year olds.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's that's a joke designed for people younger than

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Speaker 3: those who vote, and they're sick of the joke like this.

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Speaker 2: They're annoyed.

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Speaker 3: My seven year old I will do the six seven

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Speaker 3: comment when it comes up.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes. For those of you who don't know this, you

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Speaker 2: have to look this up.

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Speaker 3: This is this was the most popular meme of the

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Speaker 3: year last year, and it's younger people repeating the word

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Speaker 3: the number six seven. It's very hard to explain and

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Speaker 3: very dumb, but it was very catchy for a while.

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Speaker 3: This is a really dated reference. This is getting called

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Speaker 3: the most cringey statement ever online.

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Speaker 2: It really could be.

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Speaker 3: So that's what I'm saying, is their bench it's so

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Speaker 3: so lame it's unbelievable.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm if I read them, I would be really worried.

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Speaker 5: And that's why I for all of the You know,

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Speaker 5: I was on Mark Halprin's show today.

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Speaker 4: He didn't we didn't get.

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Speaker 5: This far in this conversation, but this was the next

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Speaker 5: stop that I had when in what we did talk about,

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Speaker 5: where he was asking me about riffs in the conservative movement.

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Speaker 4: Yes, and the movement, And as far as I can search,

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Speaker 4: I think you probably agree with this.

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Speaker 5: Is like the riffs are over things that don't matter,

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Speaker 5: like Israel, Like nobody that lives in Israel, like nobody cares.

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Speaker 4: It's just something to talk about online for now. But

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Speaker 4: like when pushcunsashoven and we're actually like in an election,

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Speaker 4: I don't think that that's going to be a real

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Speaker 4: thing that divides us. But then the second thing that

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Speaker 4: I was thinking while I was saying that was, Meanwhile,

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Speaker 4: the Democrats are absolutely hapless. They're directionless, they have no leadership,

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Speaker 4: and their messaging is so dumb, like like literally, Chuck

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Speaker 4: Schumer talked about amnesty for everyone. He says, eleven million

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Speaker 4: or whatever, the number.

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Speaker 5: Doesn't even matter. We're just giving everyone amnesty. It's like,

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Speaker 5: could you think of a more toxic message? And then

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Speaker 5: their leader is going to be headquarters Underscore six seven

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Speaker 5: on Twitter.

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Speaker 2: It's so smart.

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Speaker 3: And and also, Emma, I think I interrupt you the

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Speaker 3: most of any of my guests because you always say

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Speaker 3: these points where I just feel like I really want

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Speaker 3: to just get right in there to respond. The Israel

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Speaker 3: thing is so important because you and I are pro

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Speaker 3: is Reel people, but it's the whole online right debates.

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Speaker 2: It.

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Speaker 3: Trump stays the course with a overwhelmingly pro is reel

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Speaker 3: but skeptical of net Yahoo and his government policy as

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Speaker 3: he always has. It's one hundred percent successful. The Middle

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Speaker 3: East has never been more peaceful, and all the bad

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Speaker 3: guys are unnoticed. And it didn't act like he wavered

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Speaker 3: one iota like we did all this debate, just tens

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Speaker 3: of millions of hours of debate online and it changed nothing.

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Speaker 3: It meant nothing to know anyone who matters, and we're

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Speaker 3: in a better spot than ever and it's still a

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Speaker 3: pro's real spot. And it is one of these things

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Speaker 3: where you would hope we get all this out of

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Speaker 3: our system by the time we all go to vote,

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Speaker 3: because we're going up against just the lamest most ridiculously

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Speaker 3: silly individuals, and we absolutely have to beat them. We

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Speaker 3: must beat them, and I think we can go ahead.

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Speaker 5: Well, I was just gonna say, even if we don't

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Speaker 5: get it out of our system, like I'm really just

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Speaker 5: not concerned about it, Like it's not like actually, I

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Speaker 5: think on the Democrats side, this is a more like

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Speaker 5: prickly and scary issue because they actually do have people

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Speaker 5: like especially in Michigan, who will like stay home if

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Speaker 5: you're on the wrong side of Israel. But I think

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Speaker 5: on our side, like this isn't like if this is

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Speaker 5: the thing that is going to be the thing that

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Speaker 5: we don't disagree on, you know, between two sides of

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Speaker 5: our group.

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Speaker 4: Good because this isn't an issue that's real.

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Speaker 5: I don't like I mean, like I said, like I'm

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Speaker 5: Jewish myself, I'm a Zionist.

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Speaker 4: I think about Israel like I like probably like no minutes,

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Speaker 4: no minutes on a regular day zero. This is not

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Speaker 4: a real I don't think this is a real fight.

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Speaker 5: I think it's a fight for as like almost like

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Speaker 5: an intellectual exercise where you know, all the all the

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Speaker 5: the Democrats have left X they're all on blue sky.

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Speaker 5: So we only have each other to bicker with, So

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Speaker 5: this is like the thing that we're like bickering about

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Speaker 5: right now online.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, all all points worth exploring, but I got to

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Speaker 3: move on the next thing unfortunately, because you and I

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Speaker 3: can talk forever. But maybe the audience will enjoy this.

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Speaker 3: Make sure you be feedback guys. Hello hot Alex Marlow

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Speaker 3: dot com. I enjoy these Mma Joe shows very much.

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Speaker 3: Emma Joe, you're a number of places where can people

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Speaker 3: find you?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you.

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Speaker 5: I'm a senior consultant back in Stone. I guess only

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Speaker 5: call me of your in comms at a corporation on that.

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Speaker 2: Otherwise, if you are, it's you know, it's a vast audience.

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Speaker 4: If you are, apparently Alex Marlow value is my insight.

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Speaker 2: Emma Joe, appreciate you. Thank you in the audience,