1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:02,480 Speaker 1: This is information you're not gonna hear anywhere else. This 2 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: scandal makes Watergate look like a traffic ticket, makes it 3 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:08,640 Speaker 1: look small. I mean, I'm talking about arctic frost. You've 4 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 1: heard about it, but only in the periphery. We're gonna 5 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: get in detail with former Congress and Louis Gomert. You know, 6 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 1: he says, the DOJ and FBI secretly spot on lawmakers, 7 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 1: ces phone records, silence whistleblowers without any warrants. That is 8 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 1: a violation of the constitution. It's not speculation. Louis Gohmert, 9 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 1: former judge, prosecutor and twenty year member of the House 10 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 1: of Representatives, explains what he says actually happened. And by 11 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: the way, if they can do this to members of Congress, 12 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 1: what's to stop them from doing it to you and 13 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 1: to me? I mean, we wouldn't even know it. The 14 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 1: telecom companies were told by a judge, a judge whose 15 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:45,879 Speaker 1: name you've heard a lot lately. You don't have to 16 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 1: tell anybody. In fact, don't tell anybody that you're spying 17 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 1: on or whose records you're turning over for a year. 18 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 1: When you get this information, you're gonna find out how 19 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 1: deep it goes how serious this scandal was and how 20 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 1: close we came to losing our country. Gomert says this 21 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 1: country was one election away from becoming a one party 22 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 1: state and explains how close we actually came. Information you 23 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: haven't seen, you haven't heard here now former representative, former judge, 24 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 1: former prosecutor Louis Gommert. 25 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:17,399 Speaker 2: But we're in one hundred percent agreement on this. Arctic 26 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 2: frost is so much bigger than Watergate, anything that we've 27 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 2: ever seen. I think it's so much bigger than anything 28 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 2: I know in history, where you have the executive branch, 29 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 2: the DOJ that's out to destroy one of. 30 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 3: The two parties. It's just incredible to have. 31 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 2: Gone after hundreds of members of Congress of the other party, 32 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 2: Republican organizations, and members of Congress and senators. There's nothing 33 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 2: like that in history. 34 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 3: It's just profound it is. 35 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 1: And Watergate, if you break it down, was a bunch 36 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 1: of idiots breaking into the DNC to find out what 37 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 1: the campaign strategy was. Richard Nixon made it exponentially worse 38 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 1: by lying about it. He should have just stayed the course. 39 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 1: He might have been fine. It probably was really an 40 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 1: operation to get rid of him and he fell for it. 41 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: But that just on the action that was taken at 42 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 1: the Watergate Hotel was nothing compared to this. This Jack 43 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:27,679 Speaker 1: Frost guy was brought in, in my opinion, as a 44 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 1: political executioner. He was brought in to get to take 45 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 1: out Donald Trump and anybody who even liked Donald Trump. 46 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: He was brought in to take you out, take me 47 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:37,360 Speaker 1: out of it. If he couldn't shut me up. Anybody 48 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 1: who was on the political right, anybody who loved the constitution, 49 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 1: anybody who was gonna make sure government didn't have all 50 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 1: this power. We were all in the target, weren't we. 51 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, we all were. You nailed it, We all were. 52 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 2: And if Donald Trump had not won the election, God 53 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:59,640 Speaker 2: bless him. I mean, he weathered through all the law 54 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:06,519 Speaker 2: fair that they the executioners, the going after his family, 55 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 2: the d banking, everything they threw add him. 56 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 3: Joe. 57 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 2: I don't know anybody else in this country that could 58 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:18,920 Speaker 2: have weathered the storms that he did. If he doesn't 59 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:24,920 Speaker 2: win the election, then I think we're a one party country, 60 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 2: and that party is a Marxist party party, and we 61 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 2: we we elect to go Marxist. Uh. It was that dangerous, 62 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 2: and Jack Frost Smith would have been a party to that, 63 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 2: taking us all down. 64 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 3: There would be no coming back from that. 65 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 2: They would have gone after the stolen expression of show 66 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 2: me the man, and in essence, we'll find a crime 67 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 2: to take him down. They make them up that they 68 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 2: have to, and we've seen that they did that with Trump. 69 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 1: It's a constitutional crisis. He writes about this in Front 70 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 1: page mag dot com. Go check out what louisgum Gohmert 71 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 1: wrote there. I didn't said your name in a long time. 72 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: I keep messing it up, Lewis. Just go to gomert 73 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 1: dot com, gomert dot com and find out more about that. 74 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 1: But frontpagemag dot com is where the latest article is. Constitutionally, 75 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 1: I know how it works. You have to have probable cause, 76 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 1: you have to have a reason. You go to a 77 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 1: judge and you say, here's my probable cause. The judge says, yeah, 78 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:33,040 Speaker 1: here's your warrant. Go do what you want to do. 79 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: But this judge Bosburg, who I think thinks he's the president, 80 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 1: who told the president turned two planes around with illegal 81 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 1: aliens on them, or you're gonna be in trouble with me. 82 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:46,840 Speaker 1: That this guy who every single chance he gets sits 83 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 1: and presides over a Trump case and always takes the 84 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 1: opposite side. Does he have any ability whatsoever, in your opinion, 85 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 1: or even constitutionally to say to Jack Frost, tell At 86 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 1: and T Sprint Verizon, they're not allowed to tell the 87 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 1: members of Congress for a year that they're being spied 88 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 1: on or that all their records are being turned over. 89 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 1: Who does he have that right. 90 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:13,359 Speaker 3: To do that? Oh? No, absolutely not. 91 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:16,839 Speaker 2: And and you know, especially when you look at what 92 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 2: he said, he was saying that, and of course somebody 93 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 2: had to take an oath and swear that if people 94 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 2: like me, uh you know, Ted Cruz all these others, 95 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 2: that that they went after Jim Jordans, that if we 96 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 2: were told that they were turning over all our records 97 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 2: to them, that we were a threat to flee the country. 98 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 1: Where were you going, yeah, one of those well known people, 99 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:51,840 Speaker 1: Where are you going? 100 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 3: My gosh, where would I go? 101 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 2: I've only had one home, you know, I've lived in 102 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 2: Tyler ever since I finished the four years the Army. 103 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 2: I've got nowhere else to go. And then or we 104 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:08,719 Speaker 2: would have been Hillary Clinton and started destroying evidence, or 105 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 2: like the January sixth committee, we would have started destroying 106 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:19,479 Speaker 2: evidence but it was more insidious than that too. They 107 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 2: didn't use probable cause. They used a subpoena, a grand 108 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:29,480 Speaker 2: jury subpoena. Now, with a grand jury subpoena, you know, 109 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 2: and having been a prosecutor and a felony judge, you 110 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 2: know who handled grand juries, a prosecutor can go in 111 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 2: and and abuse this process so badly. And that's what 112 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 2: Jack Smith did, and I can see the abuse here. 113 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 2: He must have gone in with stacks of papers and 114 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 2: told the grand jury, look, we're going after all this evidence. 115 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:01,479 Speaker 2: I just need the foreman here to sign off on 116 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 2: these subpoenas. Now, with a subpoena, you don't have to 117 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 2: prove probable cause or anything. You just have to say 118 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 2: we need this evidence, and they sign off and you 119 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 2: go gather the evidence. 120 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 3: But they they went before Judge. 121 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 2: Bozburg, and then they further got this order that you 122 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 2: couldn't tell anybody about this. You couldn't tell us those 123 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:34,239 Speaker 2: of us whose records were being sieged. Now, thankfully AT 124 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 2: and T and other of the phone companies, when they 125 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 2: saw that this was just a subpoena without a warrant, 126 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 2: without probable cause, they backed off and said, wait a minute, 127 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 2: you know, this looks like something that ought to be 128 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 2: fought over in court. But one of my providers of Averizon, 129 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 2: they just said, oh, a subpoena. Oh sure, here's all 130 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 2: his records, and we won't tell them, we won't let 131 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 2: them know. That is so outrageous, it's so violentive. And 132 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 2: I know, back in two thousand and six when William 133 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 2: Jefferson had committed crimes and they got a legitimate warrant 134 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 2: to search his home, they got a legitimate warrant to 135 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 2: search his office. But for the whole history of Congress, 136 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 2: the executive branch, the prosecutors, and then the DOJ when 137 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 2: it came into existence, and they always understood that there 138 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 2: is a congressional privilege. And some said, all you people 139 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 2: in Congress think you're a blah blah blah. No, no, 140 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 2: but there is a privilege there because we have whistleblowers 141 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 2: come to us, and Jim Jordan and I back in 142 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 2: those days, Joe, we're saying, we got FBI, We've got 143 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 2: people coming to us and whistle blowing about people in 144 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 2: the FBI or DOJ suborning perjury. They're trying to get 145 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 2: FBI agents to sign false half of David, so they 146 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 2: can get warrants. And you know, can you imagine the 147 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 2: chilling effect if you're an FBI agent and you've called 148 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 2: me or Jordan or our committee and now they're going 149 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 2: and grabbing those phone records without letting us know. 150 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 3: I mean, holy cow. 151 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 2: It destroys the ability of us to have legitimate oversight 152 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 2: over the DOJ, over the FBI. And that's one of 153 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 2: the huge checks and balances. So it's not about being 154 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 2: above the law. So ever since you know, there's been 155 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 2: a constitution, if you warrant to search an office of 156 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 2: a congressman our stuff, you didn't tell the congressman or 157 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 2: you went straight to house counsel and they came in 158 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 2: and grabbed everything, and they went through with their lawyers 159 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 2: and they determined what was privileged, what was const constituent 160 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 2: stuff that was privileged, what was whistleblower stuff that was privileged, 161 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 2: and then they turned over what was appropriate under the warrant. 162 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:21,839 Speaker 2: But in this case, in Moeller's case, director of the 163 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 2: FBI back in two thousand and six, he wanted to 164 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 2: set an example and show congress ask or you, we're 165 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 2: going to take it to you. It would stick it 166 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 2: to you. They didn't bother with House counsel. You just 167 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 2: went in and grabbed everything. And the DC C Court 168 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 2: said you can't do that, even though there was a 169 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:45,560 Speaker 2: federal DC judge that said, yeah, yeah, it's okay if 170 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 2: you just sort through it at the DOJ and then 171 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 2: let them have back what's privileged. 172 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 3: You can't do that. 173 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 2: It's got to be a third party that sorts out 174 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 2: the privileged stuff. And so here they are again. It's 175 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 2: even worse than what Moller did did in two thousand 176 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 2: and six. And I was shocked back in six. You know, 177 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 2: Jefferson appeared to be guilty of sin. Why would you 178 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 2: risk a slam dunk case like they had back then 179 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:19,679 Speaker 2: by taking this constitutional risk like he did, Well, it 180 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 2: was just to slam in your face to Congress. In fact, 181 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:26,679 Speaker 2: you know, Mora had said something back in those days 182 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:30,719 Speaker 2: like maybe I need to put four hundred agents on Congress, 183 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 2: you know, get after them. It was a threat to us, 184 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 2: and this is this is really uh, this was what 185 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 2: Jack Smith was doing. The DOJ was coming after Republicans 186 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 2: at every level organizations, and if God blessed Donald Trump, 187 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 2: if he had not won, this would be a Marxist country. 188 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:55,319 Speaker 3: Today. 189 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:58,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt. It's Louis Gomert, former Congress and currently 190 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:02,959 Speaker 1: Senior Fellow at the Political Statesmanship with the David Horrowitz 191 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 1: Freedom Center. David Horror was on my show a lot. 192 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: I really liked the guy. I'm so so sad to 193 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 1: find out about his passing not too long ago. When 194 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 1: it comes to everything you just said, I of course 195 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 1: agree with all of it. But let me ask you 196 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 1: something very specifically. Why doesn't Congress do what it can do. 197 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 1: Defund the FBI till it gets in line, Maybe defund 198 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: the district that Boseburg sits on, or maybe just remove 199 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 1: that court. Congress created that court. They can get rid 200 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 1: of that court. The only court that is Article three 201 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 1: in the Constitution is the Supreme Court. As you know, 202 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 1: is it up to the Supreme Court Chief Justice to say, hey, Boseburg, 203 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:38,680 Speaker 1: you're out of here. You suck at your job. Why 204 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 1: allow somebody to feel like he's got the power of 205 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 1: God sitting on a bench like that? And can't you 206 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 1: when the FBI is getting out of line, can't Congress 207 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 1: say we'll just take the purse strings away, and then 208 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 1: you're gonna have to get in line and do what 209 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 1: your original charter was you investigate stuff. You're not the 210 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 1: boss of us. You're not a deep state, you know, 211 00:12:56,800 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 1: cabal that gets to rule Louis Gilmert's life. Why does 212 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 1: in Congress do what I think it has the power 213 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 1: to do. 214 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 2: Joe, you're singing my song. I sang that song for 215 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 2: eighteen years. I was so frustrated when we had the 216 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 2: majority during my eighteen years. I was so frustrated over 217 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 2: and over. And it wasn't just the FBI, and it 218 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 2: wasn't just the DOJ that we should have called in. 219 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 2: I was going, we have oversight over these judges. We 220 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:33,559 Speaker 2: can subpoena them and call them in and say, look, 221 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 2: Article three, Section one says you only get to serve 222 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:41,080 Speaker 2: during your good behavior. We're concerned about your behavior. And 223 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 2: haven't been a judge in chief Justice. I know you 224 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 2: can't get into minutia of cases, but we can talk 225 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 2: about your behavior, and we can grill them on their 226 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 2: bad behavior because they are violating the law that Congress 227 00:13:57,320 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 2: set out many decades ago. Recuse yourself if there's any 228 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 2: question at all about whether or not you may be 229 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 2: biased in a case. And we have seen that over 230 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:10,200 Speaker 2: and over, and I kept going we have got to 231 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:12,079 Speaker 2: bring these guys in, We got. 232 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 3: To hold them accountable. 233 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 2: And in fact, you know, I made comments about, look, 234 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 2: you know, the FBI may be so far gone, we 235 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 2: may need to just defund this FBI and start over 236 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 2: and create a group just to go through and and 237 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 2: interview the FBI agents and see who might be okay 238 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 2: to go into this new federal entity. 239 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 3: It was that bad. 240 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 2: Because there were that many FBI agents that we were 241 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 2: going along. Some of them may not have been instigating it, 242 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 2: but they were going along with what were constitutionally prohibited things. 243 00:14:56,600 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 2: And and you look at the the practices they had 244 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 2: devolved to. 245 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 3: Back when I was. 246 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 2: Litigating and even during the nineties when I was on 247 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 2: the bench as a judge, you know, I knew FBI 248 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 2: agents and these were good people, Joe. 249 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 3: And when they knew. 250 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 2: Especially if somebody had a lawyer and they got an indictment, 251 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 2: normally they would call the lawyer and say, your clientsman 252 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 2: had died it he's got to show up at the jail. 253 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 3: Tomorrow at nine ten am. 254 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 2: And they knew if he didn't show up that they 255 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 2: were going to get him, and then it would look 256 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 2: like he was running away. 257 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 3: And you can. 258 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 2: Introduce that at trial many times that they ran off 259 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 2: instead of reporting, and you don't want that coming in 260 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 2: at your trial. 261 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 3: So they would report. 262 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 2: And instead of knocking down doors like Roger Stone people 263 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 2: that they weren't a threat to anybody, and having all 264 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 2: the machine guns automatic weapons around them and the swhite teams. 265 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 2: Those were Gestopo tactics. And I don't say that likely. 266 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 2: You can go back and read what the Gestapo did 267 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 2: the early morning tactics that they wanted media there, they 268 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 2: wanted to see it, They wanted everybody to see and 269 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 2: be threatened. High FBI devolved into that. And so it 270 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 2: scared me that you know, maybe exactly what you were saying, Joe, 271 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 2: So when I say you were singing my song, you 272 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 2: really were. But people in the Congress and our party 273 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 2: would go, Louis, you know, we don't want to overreact 274 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 2: and going we're losing the republic. It's not an overreaction. 275 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 2: We've got to do something. So you're exactly right. But 276 00:16:55,560 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 2: until Mike, Mike Johnson say, for thirty years, you know, 277 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 2: you know, we didn't have a speaker who was willing 278 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:09,439 Speaker 2: to fight, was willing to do anything to put up 279 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 2: a fight, and you know, like Bayner would want sound bites, 280 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 2: we'd have hearings like on Big Gazie and other things. 281 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 2: Just give me good soundbites, but we're not going to 282 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 2: do anything about it. And that's that's how you lose 283 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:28,639 Speaker 2: a country when the party that can do something and 284 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 2: knows they should do something, does nothing but look for 285 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 2: political soundbites. 286 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:34,359 Speaker 3: And that's what we've been. 287 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 1: Through Gohmert dot com. It's Louis Gomert. We appreciate the 288 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 1: time and the access. So what happens now, Louis, is 289 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 1: Merek Garland on the hook? Is Joe Biden on the hook? 290 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 1: Is we know Jack Smith is certainly on the hook? 291 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 1: There should be hell to pay for what they did 292 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:50,679 Speaker 1: in violating the civil rights of all of these people 293 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 1: you included. I might be on the list. I don't know. 294 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 1: They were going up to conservatives. They haven't released everybody, 295 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:57,119 Speaker 1: but at the end of the day, a lot of 296 00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 1: Americans did not have the civil rights they're supposed to 297 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:03,440 Speaker 1: have afforded by the Constitution. Who's on the hook? Who 298 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:06,959 Speaker 1: should face the music, and by music, I mean behind bars? 299 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:08,360 Speaker 1: Who should be gone here? 300 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 2: Well, that's what there needs to be a complete investigation 301 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:18,360 Speaker 2: into the Merrick Garland do OJ, into the Christopher Ray 302 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 2: FBI and bring these people to justice. That we're violating 303 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:31,439 Speaker 2: people's constitutional rights who were committing crimes under the color 304 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 2: of their positions, abusing their positions, maliciously prosecuting people. This 305 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 2: is serious stuff and if nobody is made to pay, 306 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 2: then all we've done is have a little reprieve in 307 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:54,159 Speaker 2: our slide to the end of this wonderful republic. 308 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:56,440 Speaker 3: So people have got to be made to pay. 309 00:18:57,240 --> 00:19:00,040 Speaker 2: The jury still out on whether Mike Johnson will be 310 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 2: strong enough to go ahead and make sure that people 311 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:10,160 Speaker 2: are brought to justice. But for thirty years, since Newt 312 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 2: Gingrich's first term as Speaker, we hadn't had a speaker 313 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 2: that was willing to do that, and so the jury 314 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:20,200 Speaker 2: is still out on whether or not we have one. 315 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 3: Now. 316 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 2: I hope and pray Mike Johnson is that person that 317 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:27,400 Speaker 2: will allow people to do it. 318 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 3: But I tell you, you get you get. 319 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 2: In these committees and most people, yeah, they want to 320 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 2: make a fuss, but they're not willing to take the 321 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:46,400 Speaker 2: next step and hold people accountable. And you know, at 322 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 2: one point Ted Poe and John Carter and I were 323 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:57,919 Speaker 2: sitting during votes talking and Ted Poe said, have you 324 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 2: noticed that those of us that have been district judges 325 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 2: before seem to have less trouble just going ahead and 326 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 2: doing what needs to be done? Whereas people that have 327 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 2: never had to sit there and look people in the 328 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:16,679 Speaker 2: eye and send them to prison, they seem to have 329 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 2: a harder time actually doing what needs to be done. 330 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 2: And I said, well, you know, I never thought about it, Ted, 331 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 2: but you're right. When you're a district judge and you're 332 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 2: looking people in the eye, you can't say I'm really sorry. 333 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 2: You know, my core reporter made me do it. You 334 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 2: have to just do what you got to do. But 335 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:39,359 Speaker 2: there are a lot of people in Congress that don't 336 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 2: have the nerve to do what needs to be done. 337 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 2: But we're talking about preserving this union, and there's got 338 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 2: to be some prices to pay for how closely they 339 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:52,919 Speaker 2: took us to the brink of losing the republic. 340 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 1: Ted Poe's a good friend of mine. We go and 341 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:56,439 Speaker 1: we get lunch every so Offen. He comes out at 342 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 1: least once a month. I hear him say that when 343 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 1: you said it. I can actually hear his voice saying that, 344 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 1: And he's right. Of course, you're right. And here's the problem, though, Louis, 345 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 1: and I wonder if you'll give you a comment on this. 346 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 1: I like Mike Johnson. He seems to be a stand 347 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 1: up guy. When he was not the speaker, I felt 348 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 1: like he had more teeth that he has now maybe 349 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 1: he's playing more politics. Who knows. But it bothers me 350 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 1: that you can't even censure a person like Elon Omar 351 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 1: who said Charlie Kirk was Frankenstein and Frankenstein's monster killed him. 352 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 1: You couldn't censure a person like this Plasket who was 353 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 1: literally texting Jeffrey Epstein as she was on oversight or 354 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 1: judiciary whatever she was on questioning. You know, in the 355 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 1: impeachment hearings of Donald Trump, she's texting with the guy 356 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 1: who was already a convicted sex offender to find out 357 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:43,119 Speaker 1: what question she should ask next. Guess what, we couldn't 358 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 1: censure her either. We couldn't censure Rashida Talib for saying 359 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 1: river to the sea. So you can't even do a censure, 360 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 1: which is like a reprimand it's like a slap on 361 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 1: the wrist. How are you going to do something like 362 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,199 Speaker 1: get rid of a district judge. How do you do 363 00:21:56,280 --> 00:22:01,639 Speaker 1: something like defund a doj organized that isn't following the rules? 364 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 1: You know what I mean. I'm with you. I hope 365 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 1: he's that guy, but so far we're not seeing that 366 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:07,640 Speaker 1: from the Republicans. 367 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:13,440 Speaker 2: I know, Joe, I know, uh, And that's why I'm 368 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:17,400 Speaker 2: saying I think the jury's still out, but the indications 369 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 2: are not good. But he's got a rise to the occasion. 370 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:25,359 Speaker 2: He knows, he knows what has to be done, but 371 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:27,359 Speaker 2: he's got to rise to the occasion. 372 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:27,920 Speaker 1: Now. 373 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 2: When he first became speaker, I felt like he got 374 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 2: played by him Jeffers and uh, you know, Mitch McConnell 375 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 2: and Schumer. I felt like he just got played by him, 376 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 2: and you know, got pushed into stuff he shouldn't have 377 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 2: agreed to. But but he's a smart guy. He knows 378 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 2: what surely knows. I know, he knows what needs to 379 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 2: be done. And and one of his staff is one 380 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 2: of my smartest guys that ever worked for me, and 381 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,120 Speaker 2: he's helping him, and I know he. 382 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:02,680 Speaker 3: Knows what needs to be done. 383 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,359 Speaker 2: But they've got to step up and let people do 384 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:10,119 Speaker 2: it and push them into doing it. And that means 385 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 2: Jim Jordan, especially at the Judiciary Committee. But it was 386 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 2: one of the reasons that they would not want me 387 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 2: to be chairman ever of the Judiciary Committee, is because 388 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:32,640 Speaker 2: as one of the Bainter's best friends in the party 389 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:36,679 Speaker 2: that was in Congress, he had a great sense of humor. 390 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 2: But every time he'd see me, he'd say, Louis, you 391 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 2: scare the hell out of me. 392 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 1: And that's a good thing. That's a good thing for 393 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 1: the American people and the people of Texas. Louis, before 394 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 1: I let you go, I hate to not go here. 395 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 1: I know that you were in the house, but you've 396 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:53,199 Speaker 1: got I'm sure you've got a great opinion on this. 397 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:55,399 Speaker 1: What do you think about this philibuster? You and I 398 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 1: both know the pilibuster was only there because I think 399 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:02,719 Speaker 1: it was James Polk was the president when it happened. 400 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 1: He said, you guys are taking too long. I need 401 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 1: this on my desk. Okay, you can filibuster, but as 402 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 1: soon as you're done arguing, you gotta pass this thing 403 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:11,439 Speaker 1: and get it to me. And that worked out. But 404 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:14,640 Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy five, for some reason, they decided to say, 405 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,119 Speaker 1: you don't even have to filibuster anymore. They took it 406 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 1: from a super majority, they took it from a two 407 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 1: thirds majority to a supermajority, which is sixty. And when 408 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 1: they did that, they said, you can just say you're 409 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 1: gonna filibuster. You don't have to actually argue anymore. And 410 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 1: that's all they do is say, hey, we're gonna filibuster. 411 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 1: Then they go to lunch. Nobody even argues anymore. And 412 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 1: it stays that way, and the minority party literally is 413 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,640 Speaker 1: controlling what the Senate can do. The argument to get 414 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 1: rid of it makes sense to me. It goes back 415 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 1: to what it used to be, and you've got a 416 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,200 Speaker 1: simple majority, get it to the president and get it signed. 417 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:45,640 Speaker 1: But the argument is, well, then they're gonna pack the court. 418 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:49,120 Speaker 1: They're gonna add Puerto Rico and DC estates, gonna add 419 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,639 Speaker 1: four new senators. The court's gonna have fifteen members. It's 420 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 1: always going to be liberal. Our side, I'm not a Republican, 421 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 1: I'm a conservative. Our side is always afraid of what 422 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:00,400 Speaker 1: the Democrats would do should we take it the action 423 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:02,680 Speaker 1: at all. So what would you do with the filibuster? 424 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 3: Well, what would I do? 425 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,680 Speaker 2: I would eliminate the filibuster when it comes to confirming 426 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:15,119 Speaker 2: people in office. Yes, they should have gone into recess 427 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:19,360 Speaker 2: in August. It's ridiculous that John Thune and Mike Johnson 428 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 2: didn't do that so that we could at least have 429 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 2: recess appointments. But get rid of the filibuster on confirmations 430 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 2: so that we can get all of President Trump's nominations confirmed. 431 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 2: That just needs to be done. And if you want to, 432 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 2: I'm okay if you want to keep the philibuster for 433 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:43,919 Speaker 2: the other things. But because you've got reconciliation where you 434 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 2: can use if it relates it all to the budget 435 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 2: and you can tie things in there, and because so 436 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:54,159 Speaker 2: many things affect the budget, keep it for that. But 437 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 2: exactly like you said, Joe, if you're going to filibuster, 438 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 2: you get your rear end down there to the Senate floor, 439 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 2: and when you're dragging and you can't speak again, then 440 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 2: the filibuster ends and we go ahead and vote. Now, 441 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 2: Ted Cruz, he beat the record and I think he 442 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 2: went like twenty six hours something like that. That's a filibuster. 443 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:23,439 Speaker 2: I think it was twenty four hours before that. Strom 444 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:29,159 Speaker 2: Thurman Democrat, he was filibustering. You know, one of the 445 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 2: things that did need to pass back in the sixties. 446 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 2: But uh, and and there are some of the things 447 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 2: he did, like keeping one foot on the on the 448 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:43,440 Speaker 2: Senate floor and one fulling foot in the. 449 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:47,120 Speaker 3: Well. 450 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 2: I won't get into how he took care of his 451 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 2: personal needs. But anyway, but you have to be on 452 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:59,639 Speaker 2: the Senate floor. You can yield to somebody else, but 453 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:03,880 Speaker 2: you have to be on the Senate floor while they speak. 454 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 2: And the minute you no longer can speak, the minute 455 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 2: you no longer can be on the Senate floor, then 456 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 2: your filibuster is over. 457 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 3: And go ahead and vote. 458 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 1: And it wouldn't have gone forty three days, Louis, that's 459 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 1: my point. It would not have gone anywhere. And maybe 460 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 1: I don't want to hear. Please, I don't want to 461 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,399 Speaker 1: hear about snap. I don't want to hear about food stamps. 462 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:24,919 Speaker 1: I don't want to hear about wick. Now, none of 463 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 1: that would have been on the table. They were using 464 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 1: the leverage Joe handed to them in nineteen seventy five. 465 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 1: Ye I mean, yeah, go back to it. 466 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 2: Because you can't live forty three days. And by the way, 467 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 2: I remember when rand Paul was doing a filibuster and 468 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 2: uh he somebody uh was going to encouraging one of 469 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 2: the other senators, and I was helping rand I was, 470 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 2: you know, getting the stuff and bringing for him to read. 471 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 2: And uh, one of the other senators brought him an 472 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:02,919 Speaker 2: apple and thermos of tea like Jimmy Stewart had in 473 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 2: the movie mister. 474 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:06,160 Speaker 3: Smith goes to Washington. 475 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:10,120 Speaker 2: Well, when the senators objected, you know, it violates the 476 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,399 Speaker 2: Senate rules, he's got an apple. You can't have an 477 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 2: apple under the Senate rules. Well, it does violate. So 478 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 2: President and Senate said, okay, violating the rules. 479 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:19,879 Speaker 3: Take the apple. 480 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 2: And then in a little bit he said, wait, he's 481 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:24,440 Speaker 2: got tea in that thermost. 482 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 3: He can't have anything but water. 483 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 2: So they take the thermos, and then Graham took a 484 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 2: sip from the little cup and wait, wait, he's still 485 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 2: got some tea in. Then they took the couple of Well, 486 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 2: that's the way you do it. You can't have anything 487 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 2: but water, and you're going to stand there and do 488 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 2: the filibus or forever long you can do it. And 489 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 2: then we voked, and it doesn't last more than two days. 490 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:53,480 Speaker 2: Maybe you can go seven days without eating anything at all, 491 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 2: because you're not going to eat anything on the Senate floor. 492 00:28:56,600 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 2: Right right, Because the Senate holds people to the Democrats 493 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 2: sold people to the rules. Your Republicans need to do 494 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 2: that too, and then we can end the debate and 495 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 2: get on to the vote. 496 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 3: That's not exactly Joe, You're so right about that. 497 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 1: Well, you and I agree wholeheartedly. I just want us 498 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 1: to go back to what it was. The philibuster isn't 499 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 1: a philibuster anymore. It's just we don't feel like voting. 500 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 1: You're not getting our vote. That's just the way it's 501 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 1: going to be. As they make this weird case to 502 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 1: the American people that somehow the Republicans are the one 503 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 1: that shut it down. It's Louis Gohmert, former congress and 504 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 1: currently Senior Fellow for Political Statesmanship with the David Horwitz 505 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 1: Freedom Center. Go to Gohert dot com. Thank you for 506 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 1: all the time today. I missed you. I'd love to 507 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 1: have you on again very soon, my friend, because there's 508 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 1: so much going on and I think we need your 509 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 1: knowledge and your presence more than ever. 510 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 3: Thanks Joe, thank you so much. 511 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 1: I think he spot on. Louis Gummert nails it. We 512 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 1: were that close to losing the United States of America 513 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 1: as we know it. 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