1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: Is President Trump wobbling on the Chinese Communist Party. We've 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:09,720 Speaker 1: got details on today's episode, plus Indiana reditioning efforts failed 3 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 1: dramatically in the Indiana State legislature, the latest on the 4 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:16,760 Speaker 1: Somaldi fraud, and are we can review hammertime segment. All 5 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: that and more in today's episode of The Josh Hammershell. 6 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 1: Is there any foreign issue that embodies Donald J. Trump 7 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 1: more than the issue of China? I would be exaggerating, 8 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:37,839 Speaker 1: I said, is there any issue period that embodies Donald J. 9 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 1: Trump in his political assent to the upper restaurants of 10 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:44,560 Speaker 1: American and, by extension, global international power. I'd be EXAGGERATMA said, 11 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 1: is there any issue that is more closely and intimately 12 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 1: embodied and just exuded by President Trump? That perhaps would 13 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 1: be the immigration issue. But is there really any issue 14 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 1: on the global stage that when you ask someone off 15 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: the street country is preoccupying a lot of Donald Trump's thoughts. 16 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 1: They're probably gonna say China. I think people might say 17 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: Mexico because I think back to that Trump Tower speech 18 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 1: back in the summer of twenty fifteen. They're not sending 19 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: their best or sending a bunch of rapists. The one 20 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:15,039 Speaker 1: down the guild. That's good, okay, fair enough. But most people, 21 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 1: when you ask them what country tends to occupy a 22 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 1: disproportionately high share of Donald Trump's thoughts and what does 23 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:26,399 Speaker 1: he care about a lot, most folks would say China. 24 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:29,399 Speaker 1: And the reason that Donald Trump cares a lot about China, Oh, 25 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: there are a lot of reasons that he's always cared 26 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 1: about China, But China is America's number one rival. China 27 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 1: is by any stretch of the imagination, pretty much every 28 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: which way you want to slice it, whether it is 29 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:44,320 Speaker 1: from an economic perspective, from a diplomat perspective, from a 30 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 1: geopolitical perspective, from a cultural perspective, from more broadly speaking, 31 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: from a civilizational clash perspective, the highest possible perspective here, 32 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 1: they are our rivals. And Donald Trump is as an 33 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: American nationalist as someone who has mercantilist feelings when it 34 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 1: comes to the balance of trade and trade relations and 35 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 1: trade deficits there. He has looked at the rise of 36 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:09,799 Speaker 1: China over the past twenty five thirty years, really amplifying 37 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 1: after China's ascension to the World Trade Organization in two 38 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 1: thousand and one, and they're acquiring most favored nation status. Actually, 39 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:19,920 Speaker 1: when it comes to the United States and this biolateral 40 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 1: trade relationship, Donald Trump has always looked at and he 41 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 1: has always said, I don't like this one bit. The 42 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 1: question that they were asking on today's show is is 43 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:31,919 Speaker 1: he going wobbly and if so, what has to happen 44 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 1: or to get him back on track. Let's first go 45 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 1: back though, to the first term. In Donald Trump's first 46 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 1: four years in office, he was indeed surrounded by a 47 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 1: lot of China Hawks, the people who had a more 48 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 1: hawkish view of the Chinese Communist Party. And these were 49 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 1: not just the trade folks, the more protectionists and mercantilist 50 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 1: minded trade advisors, people like like Robert Lathhauser and Peter Navarro. 51 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 1: To be clear, those folks definitely have an economically hawkish 52 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:00,839 Speaker 1: view of China. Indeed, though he was surrounded by plenty 53 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 1: of people who took a slightly more militarily hawkish view 54 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 1: of China as well. It's not to say that he 55 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: was surround my people who are necessarily trying to go 56 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 1: to war with China, God forbid, that could be potentially catastrophic. 57 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 1: In fact, it's not exactly a well kept secret that 58 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 1: when the Pentagon, When the United States Apartment of War 59 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 1: does these war game simulations against the Chinese Communist Party, 60 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:24,239 Speaker 1: especially when it pertains to a possible People's Liberation Army 61 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:26,639 Speaker 1: invasion of Taiwan, it is not a very well kept 62 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 1: secret that these war game simulations usually don't end well. 63 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 2: Yes, that's literally true. 64 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:36,119 Speaker 1: Actually, when we do these war games simulations, sometimes America prevails. 65 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 2: More often than not. 66 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: Based on all that I can glean and all that 67 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 1: I have read, and all that I've been told from 68 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:43,119 Speaker 1: folks in the know, the United States does not win 69 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 1: that war game, and that is utterly astounding. But when 70 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: you think about it, it makes some sense. China's navy 71 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 1: has become the largest navy in the world. They have 72 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 1: about one hundred more warships as the United States does 73 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 1: right now. They are also manufacturing naval warships at a 74 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 1: much faster pace in the United States, where every one 75 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: American new warship that is built, and we literally actually 76 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 1: cannot build enough warships quickly to sustain the demand because 77 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 1: we're phasing out to a lot of these older vessels. 78 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 1: We literally cannot build enough to keep up with that. 79 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: So the size of our naval fleet is not only 80 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:20,040 Speaker 1: not notably increasing, if anything, it is just horrifically stating 81 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 1: that they're actually slowly decreasing. For every one new worship 82 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 1: of America makes on this slower dilapidate of timeline, China 83 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 1: is actually manufacturing three new warships. The ratio, by the way, 84 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 1: of commercial vessels of non military maritime vessels is actually 85 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 1: substantially higher. It's a ratio of something like thirty to 86 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 1: one or something astronomical like that. For every one new 87 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 1: commercial vessel America manufacturers, China is able to manufacture thirty. 88 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: That happens when you have a billion and a half people, 89 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:47,840 Speaker 1: and you have billion a half people, and you've been 90 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: investing in years and years and years treating your human 91 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 1: beings life slaves and trying to get them all oriented 92 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:56,840 Speaker 1: towards the Communist Party's singular loadstar are their singular goal, 93 00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: which is trying to be the dominant player on the face. 94 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 2: Of the earth. 95 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 1: That is what we're currently dealing with when we are 96 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 1: dealing with China. So this is what Donald Trump's when 97 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 1: I say his more hawkish devisors from the first term, 98 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:10,280 Speaker 1: this is primarily what they were talking about. They were 99 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:13,479 Speaker 1: soberly viewing the China issue. They were not necessarily trying 100 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 1: to go to war with China again. That's what just 101 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: explains you don't want to do that for a million reasons, 102 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 1: among them the fact that there's a very real chance 103 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 1: America does not actually win that conflict. But they were 104 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 1: soberly viewing this with an eye towards deterrence and or 105 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:30,159 Speaker 1: an eye towards military determines. And economic decoupling. That's the 106 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: key buzzword here. Economic decoupling, to the extent that it 107 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 1: is in the slightest feasible, I'm not necessarily saying that 108 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:40,040 Speaker 1: it is. It is capable of having a complete across 109 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:44,720 Speaker 1: the spectrum economic delinking and decoupling overnight. It's actually totally 110 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 1: not possible, as the case maybe, but you can definitely 111 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: take some incremental steps to try to reshore or ally 112 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 1: shore supply chains as much as possible. Allies, you're referring 113 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:55,840 Speaker 1: to taking a supply chain and not even if you're 114 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 1: not bringing it back to the United States, you're really 115 00:05:57,800 --> 00:05:59,839 Speaker 1: is bringing it back to an allied country that could 116 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 1: be a closer allied country in Asia, in the Indo Pacific, 117 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:06,599 Speaker 1: or potentially could be an allied country here in the 118 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 1: America's in the Western hemisphere, and all throughout Donald Trump's 119 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 1: first term, repeatedly he went to great links to try 120 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 1: to reorient the United States China relationship. In fact, Donald 121 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:20,719 Speaker 1: Trump became the first president since Richard Nixon famously or 122 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 1: infamously you might say, visited Chairman Mao Zedong. Since Nixon 123 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 1: visited Chairman Mao in Beijing in nineteen seventy two, Trump 124 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 1: became the first president to try to reorient the US 125 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: China relationship. Above all, the US China economic relationship. Nixon's 126 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 1: visited China was seen as was seen correctly. It was 127 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:43,280 Speaker 1: perceived correctly by the Chinese Communist Party as an attempt 128 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 1: to open up China to the Western world. All the 129 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:50,359 Speaker 1: old platitudes that came into place trying to liberalize China, 130 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 1: this notion that the economic liberalization would lead to political liberalization. 131 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 1: How many times do we hear that all these various 132 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:02,480 Speaker 1: platitudinous things that were sad, that were believed by purportedly 133 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: ostensibly earnest people there, none of it panned out. 134 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 2: None of it panned out. 135 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 1: There's this old quote, an old quote from the Leninists 136 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 1: and the Stalinist in the Soviet Union that the capitalists 137 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 1: will sell us the rope by which we hang them, 138 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 1: and spice to say, that is very much what has 139 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 1: happened over the course of the past half century, give 140 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 1: or take of economic relations with the Chinese Communist Party, 141 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: we have emboldened every which way imaginable. Our number one arrival. 142 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 1: The notion that economic liberalization has led to political liberalization 143 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 1: is a complete and utter live There were these harrowing 144 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: images during the COVID nineteen lockdowns, a disease that started 145 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 1: at the Wuhan Lab in China. Lest you forget, there 146 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 1: were these horrific images and videos that came out of 147 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 1: COVID nineteen. I saw this one video in Shanghai maybe 148 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:53,679 Speaker 1: around two twenty twenty one, twenty twenty two, I forgot 149 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 1: the exact year of and this is like a full 150 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 1: scale horrific lockdown. You can't leave your house, you know, 151 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: like two years or whatnot. After the virus got out 152 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 1: of the Wuhan Lab, and they had these these drones 153 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 1: or aircraft covering around Shanghai so that the people on 154 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 1: the top floors of these crazy high skyscrapers could hear 155 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 1: that to make sure they heard them, and it would 156 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 1: blast out and say, control your soul's desire for freedom. 157 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 1: In other words, stifle your inner urge to experience life. 158 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 1: Just suck it up and sit there, because we are 159 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 1: the States, we are the Communist Party, and we control you. 160 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:35,679 Speaker 1: Did that sound like economic liberalization leading to political liberalization? 161 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 3: Now? 162 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 1: So, Donald Trump during his first term starts to take 163 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: some prudential steps towards trying to economically decouple to the 164 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 1: extent possible the United States from China. He imposes all 165 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 1: sorts of strategic tarifs and various other ad hoc economic 166 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 1: measures as well. He continues to embolden many of our 167 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:59,559 Speaker 1: allies in the region. He tightens up US Taiwan relations Japan, 168 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:04,199 Speaker 1: Philip means countries like that. Right now, in the second term, 169 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:06,839 Speaker 1: it is an open question as to whether or not 170 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 1: these efforts are continuing a pace. There are a lot 171 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 1: of data points to potentially point to. There are any 172 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 1: number of individuals, though, in the administration, who sounds less 173 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 1: than enthusiastic about soberly facing the Chinese Communist Party as 174 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 1: the generational civilizational frankly challenge that it so demonstrably is. 175 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 1: Unfortunately it's trickling all the way up to President Trump himself. So, 176 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 1: for instance, just last month, as recently as November, Donald 177 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:41,079 Speaker 1: Trump doubling down again on this truly ludicrous suggestion that 178 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 1: we could expand Chinese student visas to up to six 179 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 1: hundred thousand people. 180 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 2: Does anyone think is there a single. 181 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: Person who voted for President Trump who thinks that this 182 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:55,559 Speaker 1: is a good idea. Can you name a single MAGA 183 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 1: voter who thinks that Chinese student visa is going up 184 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 1: to six hundre hundred thousand is a good idea. I 185 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 1: definitely cannot think of that. I cannot think of that 186 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 1: for a second. There is no good argument whatsoever when 187 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 1: it comes to that. It just defies all common sense, 188 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 1: all sorts of other things that are happening now as well, 189 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 1: when it comes to the notion that the trumpminstration is 190 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 1: going a little wobbly on China. There's been this whole 191 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: recent hullabaloo over the fact that Donald Trump is an administration. 192 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 1: They are now allowing n Video, which is basically like 193 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 1: a tenth of the stock market under Jensen Huang and 194 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 1: Vidia as become just a shockingly big player in the 195 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 1: world of computing and chips and nanotechnology and all the 196 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 1: life there. So we are now allowing in Vidia to 197 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:44,559 Speaker 1: export some of their advanced H two hundred series processors. 198 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:45,319 Speaker 2: Prior to this. 199 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 1: Decision, so as recently as like a week or two ago, 200 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 1: it was well understood that when it comes to the 201 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:52,079 Speaker 1: most advanced processors in the world, the United States has 202 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 1: a computing advantage over Communist China of over thirty to 203 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:58,320 Speaker 1: one when it comes to the most advanced small three 204 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 1: nanometers or smaller chips in the world. Hold Taiwan aside 205 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 1: Taiwan's sec conductor manufacturing slightly more complicated question, but speaking 206 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 1: just about Communist China, the US had a much much 207 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:12,680 Speaker 1: much easier or a mass advantage over China when it 208 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 1: comes to computing size. 209 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 2: After this, or if this. 210 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 1: Goes through and if we actually start exporting these H 211 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: two hundred ships, there are our comparative vantage computing goes 212 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 1: down to something like a one point two or one 213 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 1: point three to one, so it all but collapses. Administration 214 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 1: is trying to defend this as saying that there are 215 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:32,680 Speaker 1: some regulatory guardrails, there are some chips who are not 216 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:33,319 Speaker 1: sending there. 217 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:34,719 Speaker 2: None of it really holds up. 218 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 1: Look Lindsey Graham not my favorite politician, probably not yours either, 219 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 1: but frankly, he's actually spot on on this one. Go 220 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 1: ahead and watch Lindsay Graam reacting to this news about 221 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 1: Nvidia exporting chips to China. 222 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 4: Laren Belle's golf in my head here, I don't know. 223 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 4: I don't want to give them a I don't mind 224 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:52,839 Speaker 4: doing normal business with China, but if you can prove 225 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 4: to me this will accelerate the military capability, I'll oppose it. 226 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:00,200 Speaker 1: So I again, I'm just not seeing the argument. I'm 227 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 1: not seeing the argument one bit at all. 228 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:02,680 Speaker 2: Now. 229 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 1: As for the notion that China is less of a 230 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 1: threat now that they have somehow softened up when it 231 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 1: comes to their threat in the United States, I'm not 232 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 1: seeing that, frankly, one bid at all either. In fact, 233 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 1: a lot has happened just over the past year, and 234 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 1: if you want to go further back, the last few years, 235 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 1: indicating that China continues to be a threat. So just 236 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 1: in June, federal prosecutors in Michigan. You might have missed 237 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 1: it at the time, it was easy to miss. Prosecutors 238 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 1: in June charge multiple Chinese nationals with conspiring to smuggle 239 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 1: dangerous biological pathogens into the US for use at the 240 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 1: University of Michigan. As if a world class university like 241 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 1: the University of Michigan does not have a sufficient access 242 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 1: to the things they want to test in a biolab, 243 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 1: it's crazy. The case centered on a fungus, that is, 244 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 1: if they have the pronunciation correctly, Fusarium bremen eorum, which 245 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 1: is a fungus classified by many as a potential agro 246 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 1: terrorism weapon because of its ability to both ravage crops 247 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:03,959 Speaker 1: and too potentially lethally harm both human beings and the livestocks. 248 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 1: The prosecutors alleged the defendants received funding for this biohazard. 249 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 1: For this pathogen weapon, the prosecutors alleged that the Chinese 250 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 1: nationals received funding for this from the Chinese Communist Party itself. 251 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 1: Exact same thing happened, by the way, literally just last 252 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 1: month in November. Additional charge is brought also in Michigan. 253 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 1: Not sure what's happening there in Michigan. It's not just 254 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:25,959 Speaker 1: the Muslims and dearborn. Apparently it's also a lot of 255 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 1: Chinese nationals that are subverting the American national interests. So 256 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 1: additional charges were brought just last month in Michigan against 257 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 1: a third Chinese national in connection with very similar smuggling allegations. 258 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:37,559 Speaker 1: By the way, the same thing happened, you might have 259 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 1: missed it. This last example happened during the Biden administration. 260 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 1: In twenty twenty three. The CDC actually busted a biolab 261 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 1: in Los Angeles, actually out in California, and the biolab 262 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 1: that they busted in California back then contained at least 263 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 1: twenty potentially infectious agents, including HIV, malaria and COVID nineteen. 264 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:02,239 Speaker 1: This is biological warfare, So they're committing chemical warfare of vifensanel, 265 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:06,439 Speaker 1: biological warfare. Via this, they are threatening all of our allies. 266 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 1: Literally just last week or earlier this past week, you 267 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:13,679 Speaker 1: had this horrific incident in the skies over Okinawa and 268 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 1: Japan where a Chinese fighter dread locks its radar on 269 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 1: a Japanese aircraft, which sent Tokyo scrambling. And they were like, 270 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 1: this is provocative. This is borderline casses belly, the actual 271 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 1: justification for an act of war. It probably is not 272 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 1: quite that, but it's shockingly and discomfortingly close to that. 273 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 1: On the other hand, unfortunately, what you had a few 274 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 1: weeks ago, was you had the brand new, precocious prime 275 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 1: Minister of Japan and this young women, the first female 276 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 1: prime minister in Japanese history. Trump was actually over there 277 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 1: shaking hands, doing all the right things as recently as 278 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 1: a month or two ago when when she was sworn in. Unfortunately, though, 279 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 1: after she started amping up the rhetoric when it comes 280 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 1: to China and Taiwan, you allegedly, according to the Wall 281 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 1: Street General reporting citing all sorts of sources of both 282 00:14:57,240 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 1: the American and the Japanese side, allegedly what you have 283 00:14:59,880 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 1: is had Donald Trump who called this new Japanese Prime 284 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 1: minister and basically said, tone it down. Okay, this is 285 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 1: too hostile. I don't like what we're saying when it 286 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 1: comes to Taiwan. So what the heck is going on here? 287 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 1: The question is what the actual heck is going on here? 288 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 1: But why is the trumpdministration seemingly going wobbly on China 289 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 1: when it comes to Chinese student visas, when it comes 290 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 1: potentially to certain types of tariffs and the broader economic 291 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 1: decoupling agenda. Definitely when it comes to trying to bolster 292 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:36,479 Speaker 1: our allies, and it comes from a from a misconception 293 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:40,359 Speaker 1: clearly being boosted by some people who I cannot necessarily 294 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 1: name or identify close to the president, perhaps in the 295 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 1: Department of State, in the Department of War. I'm not 296 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 1: entirely sure of who they are. I don't think it's 297 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 1: Marco Rubio. Marco Rubio has been sounding very aggressive on 298 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 1: the Chinese Communist Party for at least the past decade 299 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 1: or so. But DoD Trump is getting some bad advice 300 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 1: right now. He's getting some unfortunate advice when it comes 301 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 1: to try to appease and to maldikadle the Chinese Communist Party. 302 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 1: There is not going to be any appeasing of the 303 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 1: Chinese Communist Party. They are on the warpath every which 304 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 1: way you look. They are building their military up at 305 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 1: lightning lightning pace. I already compared the warship numbers earlier 306 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 1: in our conversation here. When it comes to them building 307 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 1: up aircraft carriers at a shockingly high pace. The United 308 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 1: States still leads China when it comes to raw number 309 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 1: of aircraft carriers, but again because of China's ship building capacity, 310 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 1: they are catching us up very very quickly. When it 311 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 1: comes to China putting Japanese aircraft in the radar. When 312 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 1: it comes to China doing all sorts of unpresented military 313 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 1: drills around the island of Taiwan, it seems like it 314 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: is only a matter of time before they invade there. 315 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 1: The ultimate goal that China has. You have to understand this. 316 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 1: This is core to China's conception of itself. China is 317 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 1: referred to by historians as the Middle Kingdom, and because 318 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 1: I actually studied Old Chinese in college, the actual Chinese 319 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 1: word for China is jonga Jong means middle or central. 320 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 1: They view themselves as the central Kingdom, as the central 321 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:10,639 Speaker 1: civilization in the world. The Communist Party takes that to 322 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:14,439 Speaker 1: a terrifying, terrifying place where they seek to use all 323 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:17,399 Speaker 1: of the various liberalizations and freedoms that the Western world 324 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:20,119 Speaker 1: gives them in an attempt then to turn it on 325 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:23,439 Speaker 1: the free world, the Western world's head, ultimately attempting to 326 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:26,120 Speaker 1: Sino form the world, that is, to try to take 327 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 1: as much of the world as possible and to form 328 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 1: it in communist China's image. America has to understand that 329 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 1: is what was going on here. There is not going 330 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 1: to be any kind of halfway measure here. So the 331 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 1: recent National Security Strategy document, which we discussed a little 332 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 1: bit on yesterday's show in the context of Venezuela and 333 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 1: the Monroe doctrine. It's a very good document, but it 334 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 1: does have some troubling language to for this theme. Here's 335 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 1: some troubling language when it comes to trying to say 336 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:51,919 Speaker 1: that China has a legitimate sphere of influence when it 337 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:54,120 Speaker 1: comes to the Indo Pacific. There, I don't really want 338 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 1: to hear of that. What I do want to hear 339 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 1: more about is how you are going to embolden America's 340 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:00,400 Speaker 1: allies in the region, How you're going to embolden in Japan, 341 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 1: how you're going to embold in the Philippines, Taiwan, Australia. There, 342 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 1: that's the strategy. The key is trying to get some 343 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 1: sort of Abraham Accord style regional containment alliance where it's 344 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 1: not the Middle Eas's not trying to contain row You're 345 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 1: trying to contain China. So get Japan, Philippines, Taiwan. Let's 346 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:18,920 Speaker 1: try to get India back the table. India is now 347 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 1: drifting away much closer to the China Russia sphere of influence. 348 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:22,640 Speaker 2: That's not good. 349 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 1: Do our best to try to bring these countries together 350 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 1: in some sort of Chinese containment alliance. That's the goal. 351 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:31,400 Speaker 1: The goal is good old fashioned piece through strength to turns. 352 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 1: The goal is not to be weak and to embold 353 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:37,359 Speaker 1: in China. Certainly, it's not to lecture the Prime Minister 354 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:40,680 Speaker 1: of Japan to settle down, young lad and to basically 355 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 1: just sit there and take it when China is is 356 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 1: putting your literal fighter jets in radar harm way bad, 357 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 1: very bad. 358 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:51,120 Speaker 2: So I get. 359 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 1: I don't know exactly where Trump is getting this advice. 360 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 1: I do know that I do not like it one bit. 361 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 1: I don't like it one bit whatsoever. And really, really 362 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 1: it has to end because this generation, this century will 363 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:05,880 Speaker 1: be defined by how America confronts the Chinese Communist Party 364 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:08,920 Speaker 1: civilizational challenge. Right now, we're getting mixed signals from Washington. 365 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 1: Those mixed signals must end because China is ready to 366 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:13,639 Speaker 1: fight the civilizational challenge. The only question I have is 367 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 1: whether or not America is going to do so as well. Meanwhile, 368 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:20,200 Speaker 1: all sorts of other news going on, but we'll start 369 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 1: to mess and then we'll kind of take it back. 370 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 1: International a tremendous loss on Thursday, in the state of Indiana, 371 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 1: the Hoosier States part of the broader redistracting wars. So 372 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: you had two of the largest states in the country, 373 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:37,639 Speaker 1: California and Texas, the number two largest states respectively, that 374 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 1: have engaged in these diistioning efforts trying to give more 375 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 1: seats to their congressional delegations for the Democrats and Republicans respectively. 376 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 1: From the Golden State to the Lone Star State and 377 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 1: all sorts of other states have been involved in this 378 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 1: mid decade redistraint, which is kind of rare. Actually, you 379 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 1: typically see more redistraining towards the end of the decade 380 00:19:57,200 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 1: when it gets closer to the dessennial census. And you've 381 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 1: had other states though regardless, like Missouri, Ohio, North Carolina 382 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:07,399 Speaker 1: who have gone along with this Trump led effort for 383 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:09,879 Speaker 1: red states to try to carve out more seats for 384 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 1: Republicans there. Unfortunately, in Indiana it failed. The Republicans were 385 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 1: going for actually a clean nine to zero reditioning, which 386 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 1: you can do. We've discussed in the show numerous times. 387 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 1: Jerrymandering is inherently political activity, where unless you're doing it 388 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 1: for explicitly raced based reasons, there is no court case, 389 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 1: no jurisprudence, no con principle on the book, nothing that 390 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 1: would prevent you from doing that. You are allowed to 391 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:39,479 Speaker 1: jerry manager to your partisan hearts. Content really you actually are. 392 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 1: It goes back to the origins of the republic. So 393 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 1: why in the world did the Republican led Senate. Republicans 394 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 1: control eighty percent, by my rough count, eighty percent of 395 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 1: the seats in the Indiana Senate. Why in the world 396 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:57,719 Speaker 1: are they voting down this reditioning effort? When Donald Trump, 397 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 1: center Jim Banks, the wonderful young senator from Indiana, when 398 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 1: all these leaders went all in for this. But what 399 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 1: are you guys trying to prove, literally, what are you 400 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 1: trying to prove that you're more principal, that you're better. No, 401 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 1: the principle is jerrymandering. It's named after Elbridge, Jerry James 402 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:18,639 Speaker 1: Madison's vice president. It goes back to the origins of 403 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 1: the republic. I'm so sick of this crap. I am 404 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:25,400 Speaker 1: so sick of the moral sanctimony of these weak hearted, 405 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:29,160 Speaker 1: weak kneed Republicans who fight with one hand tie behind 406 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 1: their back, and they're so content to rest on their 407 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 1: laurels and they will go to sleep the night as 408 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,959 Speaker 1: long as they feel good that they have fought the 409 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:42,440 Speaker 1: good fights. By not withholding any possible shred of bear 410 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 1: fanged animis towards the opposition, But sometimes animis, or at 411 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:50,399 Speaker 1: least at a bare minimum, a sober understanding of the 412 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 1: threat you're dealing with is called for. This is not 413 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:57,360 Speaker 1: your grandfather's Democratic Party. You really ought to be able 414 00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:58,120 Speaker 1: to realize. 415 00:21:57,800 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 2: That by now. 416 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:01,719 Speaker 1: This is a party that is calling to grant Washington, 417 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 1: d c. Statehood, to pack the United States Supreme Court, 418 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:07,680 Speaker 1: to abolish the Electoral College, to abolish the United States 419 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 1: Senate as vestiges of the patriarchy, and all this other colonialist, stupid, 420 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 1: left wing, pseudo academic Frankfurt school crap. This is not 421 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 1: your grandfather's Democratic Party. So really shame, I mean genuine 422 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 1: shame on Indiana Center Republicans for failing right now to 423 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:26,879 Speaker 1: pass this. 424 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 2: It's awful. 425 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:30,400 Speaker 1: It's probably too late for this, unfortunately, to be corrected. 426 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:33,640 Speaker 1: I suppose it kind of is what it is going 427 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:36,119 Speaker 1: down from Indiana. Staying in the Midwest, we have some 428 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:38,919 Speaker 1: updates for you out of Minnesota. We've been covering this 429 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 1: Somaldi fraud scandal. Now for a little while it is 430 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 1: an ongoing scandal. One of the individuals who was at 431 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,639 Speaker 1: the center of this scandal, you will not be surprised 432 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 1: to know, if you didn't already know, is indeed ilhan 433 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 1: Omar herself. 434 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 2: Now. 435 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 1: One of the things that most Republicans have been talking 436 00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 1: about since ilhan Omar got to Congress and was elected 437 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 1: in the twenty eighteen cycle, one things that Republicans have 438 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 1: been talking about is that this ongoing debate as to 439 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 1: whether or not illin Omar actually committed immigration fraud by 440 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:15,200 Speaker 1: coming to the United States by means of actually marrying 441 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 1: her brother and lying about it. It's all, this is 442 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 1: fraudulent when it comes to your immigration paperwork. Well, we 443 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 1: have updates for you on that, and it comes courtesy 444 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,119 Speaker 1: of the Borders are himself, Tom Homan, go ahead and 445 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,400 Speaker 1: watch this, and it's a story that has never been 446 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 1: successfully refuted, even though it's now a five year old 447 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 1: story that's clearly a deportable offense. 448 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 5: Is there an investigation into that? 449 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 3: You know, I just got advised by fraud of Vescer 450 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 3: the other day on that I asked the question who 451 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 3: reviewed the files? Says, you know, there was an immigration 452 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:49,440 Speaker 3: of fraud involved detached of limitation became in issue in 453 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 3: the last four years when this was first brought up. 454 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:55,639 Speaker 3: Who was president, who run d oj so pulling the ructors, 455 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 3: now pulling the files and we're looking at but this 456 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 3: fraud investigator who I know paying one of the best 457 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 3: drawn investigators in HSI homeless security investigations, so there's no 458 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:07,920 Speaker 3: doubt he reviewed the file. So I'm running that down 459 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 3: this week as matter of fact, and we'll see. 460 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 2: So let's see what happens. 461 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 1: I mean, can can we deport illin Omar? I mean, 462 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,439 Speaker 1: how incredible would that be? I mean, this is a 463 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:20,680 Speaker 1: deportable offense. It is absolutely deportable offense. Look, I am 464 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 1: all for more aggressive deportation tactics, more aggressive, frankly, denaturalization 465 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:27,160 Speaker 1: tactics when it comes to folks here who will become 466 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 1: naturalized citizens while lying on their naturalization paperwork about whether 467 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 1: or not they support US recognize foreign terrorist organizations. These 468 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 1: are EXACTI contactics that more folks, frankly should be should 469 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 1: be implementing. I'm really happy to see that Tom Holm 470 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:45,200 Speaker 1: is not given this up. By the way, Rob Spin 471 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 1: of Newsmats there totally right. We've been saying this for years, 472 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 1: some of us that Illinomar created braiz As, she committed 473 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 1: brazen immigration fraud once you came here, and typically you 474 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 1: just get called a conspiracist or in islamaphoba, xenophoball the 475 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:04,159 Speaker 1: stupid craw but they've never actually once objected or proved 476 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,400 Speaker 1: us wrong on the merits. So good for Tom Homan 477 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 1: for pursuing this. Incidentally, what's happening there in Minneapolis, as 478 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 1: you know, if you've watched or listened to the show, 479 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:15,400 Speaker 1: you know that it's really bad. You know, this ends 480 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 1: up being in some billions of dollars, billions of dollars 481 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:22,360 Speaker 1: of the Bilking of Minnesota, taxpayers, of federal United States 482 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 1: taxpayers when it comes to the COVID nineteen bailout programs 483 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 1: there during the early year of the Biden administration. 484 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 2: It's awful. It's absolutely awful stuff. 485 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 1: Scott Piscent, the Trailer Secretary, is involved currently in investigating this, 486 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 1: and specifically after he's including in his investigation the extent 487 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 1: to which ilhan Omar, Tim Walls the governor, and Keith Ellison, 488 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 1: the radical Muslim and turn in general. He's investigating the 489 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:48,440 Speaker 1: extent to which they are all involved here, actually, so 490 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:50,639 Speaker 1: let's go ahead and actually watch this from Scott Pissent. 491 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 2: If there was a linkage in that the money that 492 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:57,239 Speaker 2: they had stolen going to terrorism, then that is a 493 00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,360 Speaker 2: failure of the FBI. 494 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,879 Speaker 6: Fraud investigation dates back to twenty twenty two, when the 495 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 6: Biden administration filed charges in connection to what they called 496 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 6: the largest pandemic fraud in the US. Bessen saying he 497 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 6: was asked last week to investigate whether Minnesota's tax dollars 498 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 6: made its way to terrorist organizations linked to Somalia. 499 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:21,359 Speaker 5: That money has gone overseas and we are tracking that 500 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 5: they both to the Middle East and Somalia. 501 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 1: So as Chris Rufo previously reported at City Journal, and 502 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 1: he's follow up on this numerous times, no one's really 503 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 1: denied it or disputed. Al Shabab, the Somali Suni Jihadis group, 504 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 1: formerly an offshoot of al Qaeda, now they're independent. I 505 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,399 Speaker 1: don't really know exactly when it became independent. It's not 506 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 1: exactly like a McDonald's franchise. I mean, if you're a Jihanis, 507 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:45,440 Speaker 1: you're a jihatas. I don't want to care whether you're 508 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,719 Speaker 1: independent or a franchise. Whatever, but al Shabab, which is 509 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,119 Speaker 1: the al Qaeda or bocal Horam, whatever you want to 510 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 1: call it of Somalia. This amazing Chris Rufo study recently 511 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:01,360 Speaker 1: really showed, and no one's disputed this, that the Minnesota 512 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,920 Speaker 1: taxpayer is the number one funder of alf shpop. I 513 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 1: mean disgusting stuff. I absolutely disgusting, appalling stuff. I want 514 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 1: people to go to jail. I absolutely want people to 515 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 1: go to jail as a result of this. Let's see 516 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,639 Speaker 1: what happens. Scott Pisen is currently doing all the current 517 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 1: financial investigations there ideally will have the DOJ prosecuting as 518 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:27,440 Speaker 1: appropriate based on recommendations from the Treasury and elsewhere. Incidentally, 519 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:32,119 Speaker 1: it's actually not just Minnesota which has a Somali problem 520 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:35,399 Speaker 1: at the moment. Apparently there's actually an increasing Somali fraud 521 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:38,920 Speaker 1: program in Ohio as well as. If Minnesota wasn't bad enough, 522 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 1: go ahead and watch this. 523 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 7: I mean there's a lot of fraud and it's cyclical here. 524 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:45,879 Speaker 7: Most of the individuals that have come and talked to me, 525 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 7: Peter are terrified. They have said, and I quote, I 526 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 7: will be stoned to death if I show my face 527 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:57,440 Speaker 7: on camera or expose what's happening. I think that Minnesota 528 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,679 Speaker 7: was just the type of the sphere, and as you 529 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 7: continue to see what's happening across the country, I think 530 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:07,399 Speaker 7: logically you should start with a place like Ohio. We 531 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:12,679 Speaker 7: have the second highest Somalian population. I live in Columbus, Ohio, 532 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 7: so we have between forty and sixty thousand Somalian residents. 533 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:20,400 Speaker 7: We're one of the largest Somali communities in the United States, 534 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:24,360 Speaker 7: and many came here legally. There were refugees between the 535 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 7: nineteen nineties and two thousands, and many of them are 536 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 7: law abiding. I know the Somalian community, great people. Many 537 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 7: of them are working hard. The problem today is not 538 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 7: the community. It's actually the criminals within the Somalian community 539 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 7: that have exploited Ohio's medicaid program. Because we have a 540 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 7: system right now, it's one of the easiest in the 541 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 7: Midwest to. 542 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 1: Game head Cook, the Ohio attorney. They just heard there 543 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 1: over on Fox News Digital. Look, I will take issue 544 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 1: with one small thing that we just heard there, which 545 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 1: is notion that it's not the communities of the culture, 546 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 1: it is select individuals. Okay, that broadly speaking, that is correct. 547 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 1: Broadly speaking, here in Western civilization. We judge people individually, 548 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 1: not based on their collective identity, on the community, on 549 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 1: their background. The skin color. That's all fine and danity, 550 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 1: that's kind of bread and butter. Marlin Luther King Junior. 551 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 1: Judged by the contents of a character, not the color 552 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 1: of skin. 553 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 2: Fine. 554 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 1: I agree with that. Here's what I will say, though, 555 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 1: as a caveat to the caveat, is that there are 556 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 1: indeed some cultures that have as part of their identity, 557 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 1: as part of their intergenerational inherited customs and traditions, they 558 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 1: have a greater respect for the rule of law. They 559 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 1: have a greater respect for political and legal authority. They 560 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,160 Speaker 1: have a greater respect for trying to do that which 561 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 1: they can, to assimilate into the culture and to be 562 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:49,719 Speaker 1: positive contributions to the society that has so graciously welcomed 563 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 1: them in. And based on what we've seen and based 564 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 1: on what we, frankly have known for years, it's not 565 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 1: a big stretch to say that the Somali assimilation experiment 566 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 1: in the United States is not going well at this time. 567 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:02,959 Speaker 1: It's just not I'm sorry to say it, it's I'm 568 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 1: really I'm not sure, really, not that sorry, kind of 569 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 1: like Donald Trump, I'm really not that sorry. It's just 570 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 1: not working. It's not working, and frankly, we need to 571 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 1: go ahead and fix that. And you know, it's not 572 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 1: just radical Islam that is currently failing here on an 573 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:21,720 Speaker 1: assimilation level at home. Radicalislam continues to be a threat 574 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 1: abroad as well. Again, Radical Islam, you might have forgot 575 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 1: about it, but it has not forgotten about you. One 576 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 1: of the more recent controversies involving radical Islam, or as 577 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 1: the controversy may be lack thereof all pap what I 578 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 1: mean by that, The controversy that's really been generating a 579 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 1: lot of attention, at least in my social circles is 580 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 1: a controversy over the new president of Syria. So during 581 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 1: the outsting of Bashar al Asad about a year ago 582 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 1: or so, this guy was referred to as Al Jolani. 583 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 1: It was actually a reference to his warrior name of 584 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 1: the past. Julani was a reference to Goldlan, the Golan Heights. 585 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 1: The I mean kind of sore disputed area between Syrian Israel. 586 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 1: It's really Israeli territory. And this is part of his 587 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 1: kind of chee hottest mentality trying to take back the 588 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 1: goal on heights. So we're off to a great start. 589 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 1: Now he goes by by the name Ahmad al Shara. Now, 590 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:17,200 Speaker 1: Donald Trump has welcomed al Shara in with really welcome arms. 591 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 1: He's welcomed in with open arms. He has lifted sanctions 592 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 1: as part of a recent statue called the Caesar Act 593 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 1: that was passed during the butchery and the Syrian people 594 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 1: by Basher Alsad. We lifted We've lifted Caesar Act sanctions 595 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 1: on the Syrian regime. Most of the European governments there 596 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 1: in the European Union are doing the exact same thing 597 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,960 Speaker 1: Trump has posed with al Shara in the Middle East 598 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,960 Speaker 1: in Washington, d C. You know, the thumbs up, big smiling, 599 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:43,480 Speaker 1: face to face. There a lot of the Abraham Accords 600 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 1: or Abraham Accords sympathetic countries, countries like the UAE and 601 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 1: Saudi Arabia. They have welcomed al Shara as well. But 602 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 1: who is al Shara? I mean, has al Shara actually 603 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 1: stopped as this guy actually stopped? I mean he was 604 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 1: a former jihadi. This is not in dispute. Al Shara 605 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 1: came up through the ranks as a peripatetic Jihadis, as 606 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,960 Speaker 1: like bouncing around from a rock to Syria to fight 607 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 1: various wars on behalf of al Qaeda. So now that 608 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:12,520 Speaker 1: he trimmed his beard a little bit, he didn't have 609 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 1: the big bin lot in on Al Jazeera style beard. 610 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 1: He's got a smaller beard. And now that he's wearing 611 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,600 Speaker 1: a suit and not a you know, not a turban 612 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 1: or whatever, and now we're calling him a legitimate leader. 613 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 1: So the whole thing is a little confusing, and unfortunately 614 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 1: there's been a lot of pressure placed right now on 615 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 1: Israel trying to really recognize and legitimize al Shara and 616 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 1: make any kind of concessions perhaps that Israel is said 617 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 1: to have to make when it comes to the name 618 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 1: of Israeli Syrian p So for instance, here here is 619 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 1: US Envoy Tom Barrack. Tom Barrack is the Special envood 620 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 1: a Syria. Also of the US Ambassador to Turkey, a 621 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 1: controversial figure frankly in certain ways, including this clip right here, 622 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 1: go ahead and watch this. 623 00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,240 Speaker 5: They're all in on the right track, and their attitude 624 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 5: with US has been totally cooper everything we've asked them 625 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 5: to do and ragging them towards Israel. They're doing. Israel 626 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:12,120 Speaker 5: is not trusting yet, so it's a little slower. My 627 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:17,000 Speaker 5: personal view on the president's desire is we'll get a 628 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 5: deal done starting with the security and border agreement, the 629 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 5: utilization of zones, moving towards the normalization. But it has 630 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:26,880 Speaker 5: to be the answer. 631 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 1: So what Barg's doing here is he's applying pressure. He's 632 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 1: applying pressure on Israel, saying the Syrians are totally cooperating, 633 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 1: They're fully ready for peace. 634 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:36,480 Speaker 2: All they want is peace. 635 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 1: There these are a bunch of you know, Western style 636 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 1: Harvard faculty lounge liberals now in Damascus. There It's like, 637 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:46,480 Speaker 1: are you kidding me? I mean, these are terrorists in suits. 638 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 1: There was this video that I saw week or two 639 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:52,880 Speaker 1: ago of the Syrian military. This is not Basher Ali 640 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 1: SA's military. This is the al Qaeda sympathetic new Syrian 641 00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 1: military under this former al Kata jihadi al Shara, and 642 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 1: the military is chanting Gaza, Gaza, Gaza. Why because they're 643 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 1: still chanting on behalf of Hamas. Because this is a 644 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:14,799 Speaker 1: radical Islamist, radical Sunni pro Muslim brotherhood military. Unfortunately, under 645 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,800 Speaker 1: this former al Qaeda guy now turned into a quasi 646 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:22,280 Speaker 1: legitimate leader. So I don't know exactly wid Trump instigation 647 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,920 Speaker 1: is falling for this so much when it comes to 648 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 1: al shar and Syria. What what I definitely know is 649 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,520 Speaker 1: that I don't like it one beck one bits. Similar 650 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:31,359 Speaker 1: to the fact that more sobriety is called for when 651 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:33,759 Speaker 1: it comes to communist China, so very much is more 652 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 1: sobriety called for when it comes to Syria. And now 653 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:38,800 Speaker 1: let's go to our week in review. Hammertime sent me 654 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 1: in where we go through some of the woke headlines 655 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 1: of the week. Joy reid Man Joyless, Joyless, joy Read. 656 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:48,240 Speaker 1: She's been booted off of MSNBC for frankly being terrible 657 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 1: and having horrific ratings, but the most recent joy Read 658 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:55,040 Speaker 1: Delight and Boys of the Delight is she has posted 659 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:59,560 Speaker 1: a viral video calling the song jingle Bells jingle Bells 660 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 1: race because what exactly I mean, I literally don't even 661 00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:08,239 Speaker 1: know exactly what the alleged reason is. She apparently is 662 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 1: trying to take issue with the past of the Christmas Carol. 663 00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:18,520 Speaker 1: It's I mean, how stupid man, how messed up does 664 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 1: your brain have to be to take something as fun 665 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:26,240 Speaker 1: and frivolous and anodyne as jingle Bells? I mean, literally, 666 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,760 Speaker 1: is there more is there a more iconic Christmas carol 667 00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:34,960 Speaker 1: than jingle bells? But I mean literally one of the 668 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:38,960 Speaker 1: captions on joy Reid's posts, someone writes, quote, this is 669 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:42,520 Speaker 1: where a racist Confederate soldier wrote jingle bells to make 670 00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:46,320 Speaker 1: fun of black people. How about the fact that we 671 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 1: say jingle bells because it's fun, because the kids love it, 672 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,720 Speaker 1: because it's part of the holiday spirit, of the Christmas 673 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:54,839 Speaker 1: spirit at the most, the most wonderful time of the year. 674 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:55,800 Speaker 2: That's it. 675 00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 1: That is why generations of Americans have been singing jingle 676 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:03,320 Speaker 1: bells for a very, very long time. You know, this 677 00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:08,120 Speaker 1: moral sanctimony, this puritanical moral preening, This. 678 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:11,640 Speaker 2: Doesn't politically play well. The American people don't like this crap. 679 00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:15,280 Speaker 1: They have no interest in getting lectured about how jingle 680 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:18,880 Speaker 1: bells is blackface and racist in its origins. 681 00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:24,279 Speaker 2: As kinda hammil An author says, I don't care. 682 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:27,200 Speaker 1: I literally don't care whether the person who ruled jingle 683 00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:30,160 Speaker 1: bells had horrific views on race. I assume that most 684 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,600 Speaker 1: people who lived a few hundred years ago had views 685 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 1: on race that are probably not great by modern standards. 686 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:39,960 Speaker 1: That doesn't mean that older ideas are discredited Okay, the 687 00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:43,520 Speaker 1: fact that the American founders gave us a system that 688 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:47,520 Speaker 1: made a brutal, brutal compromise on the institution of slavery. 689 00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:50,560 Speaker 1: That doesn't mean that their ideas on separation of powers 690 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:52,799 Speaker 1: and federalism and free speech and gun rights and all 691 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,800 Speaker 1: that happy to scard. That's not how it works. You 692 00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:59,480 Speaker 1: take every idea on its merits unbelievable. Just just so, 693 00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:01,960 Speaker 1: just such low IQ idiocy. 694 00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:02,320 Speaker 2: Frankly. 695 00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,880 Speaker 1: Meanwhile, going to the Commonwealth of Kentucky, a state represented 696 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:09,520 Speaker 1: by the name of Sarah Stalker, has sparked a firestorm 697 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:13,560 Speaker 1: for saying that she doesn't always feel good about being white. 698 00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:16,160 Speaker 1: So this was during a meeting of the Interim Joints 699 00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:21,680 Speaker 1: Committee on Education in the Kentucky Commonwealth Legislature, and Sarah Stoker, 700 00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:24,000 Speaker 1: who is from Louisville, the largest city in the state, 701 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:28,640 Speaker 1: called DEI in education quote an incredible opportunity for white 702 00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:31,719 Speaker 1: students to try to learn to see their privilege. And 703 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:33,719 Speaker 1: she said, if I'm going to be honest, I don't 704 00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:35,720 Speaker 1: feel good about being whites every day. 705 00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:36,880 Speaker 2: For a lot of reasons. 706 00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:41,040 Speaker 1: Lady, no one asked you whether you feel good. I 707 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,200 Speaker 1: don't care whether you feel good. I don't care whether 708 00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:46,640 Speaker 1: you feel guilty. Go call a therapist. I'm sure they 709 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:49,960 Speaker 1: are plenty of good therapists in Louisville, Kentucky to help 710 00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:51,480 Speaker 1: you deal with your white privilege. 711 00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:55,320 Speaker 2: Here's what I know. I know that DEI is racist. 712 00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,320 Speaker 1: I know that DEI is racist in the name of 713 00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:01,920 Speaker 1: purportally opposing racism. And I know that DEI therefore has 714 00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:05,680 Speaker 1: no role whatsoever when it comes to the education system. 715 00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:09,840 Speaker 1: There is no role for racism in American education. The 716 00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:13,480 Speaker 1: entire notion of DII is to divide society, much as 717 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:17,279 Speaker 1: actual Marxism in the Communist Manifesto did nearly two centuries ago. 718 00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:20,640 Speaker 1: Now d I will divide society into two tiers, into 719 00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:22,600 Speaker 1: the oppressor tier and the oppressed. Here and if you 720 00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:24,680 Speaker 1: are in the oppressor tier, if you're a white person, 721 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:26,920 Speaker 1: a Christian, Asian, and Jew, a Mormon, whatever, that you 722 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,920 Speaker 1: are an oppressor and you are racist. By sheer dintivent, 723 00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:34,000 Speaker 1: you're a racist. You control structural power there. That's why 724 00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:37,160 Speaker 1: it's on education. Sarah Stalker, I don't give the smallest 725 00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:40,439 Speaker 1: crap in the world as to whether you personally look 726 00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:42,640 Speaker 1: at yourself in the mirror and you want to what 727 00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:44,400 Speaker 1: do you want to do? I mean, you want to 728 00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:46,880 Speaker 1: XPA for your sins by doing what you want to 729 00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,879 Speaker 1: donate to the NAACP or something. Go for it your money. 730 00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:52,520 Speaker 1: No one's judging you that. That is absolutely your rights. 731 00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:56,920 Speaker 1: But do not make your constituents. Do not make innocent Kentuckians, 732 00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,920 Speaker 1: most of whom are white people, be taught and doctrine 733 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,120 Speaker 1: that they should hate themselves because you are. 734 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:02,920 Speaker 2: Such a. 735 00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:07,960 Speaker 1: Bottom feeder that you hate yourself too. That's not how 736 00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,200 Speaker 1: it works, right a bare minimum. That is absolutely not 737 00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:14,560 Speaker 1: how it ought to work. I absolutely hate it. Can't 738 00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:17,920 Speaker 1: can't stand it. Final quick note here in South Florida 739 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,240 Speaker 1: where we live as well, there's a brand new radio 740 00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,960 Speaker 1: station that is getting taken over by a George Soros 741 00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,239 Speaker 1: linked group. So in the world of talk radio, was 742 00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:27,359 Speaker 1: a very big deal over the past couple of years 743 00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,960 Speaker 1: that Odyssey was taken over by the George Soros network. 744 00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:34,520 Speaker 1: Here in South Florida. This is actually the Spanish radio 745 00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:38,280 Speaker 1: station long connected to the Cuban community here called Radio Mambi. 746 00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:41,280 Speaker 1: It's actually not part of Odyssey, and it's potentially concerning 747 00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:45,279 Speaker 1: that George Soros is now getting into yet another, yet 748 00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:48,000 Speaker 1: another radio stream. Here when it comes to trying to 749 00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,560 Speaker 1: take over information and media, that's what they do, folks. 750 00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:53,080 Speaker 1: This is how they tried to win the culture. They 751 00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:56,080 Speaker 1: tried to win the culture by controlling the avenues and 752 00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:58,680 Speaker 1: the distribution points and the media and the channels and 753 00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:02,480 Speaker 1: intermediaries of information. Is incumbent upon all of us to 754 00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:04,719 Speaker 1: fight fire with fire and fight back in coins. That 755 00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:07,680 Speaker 1: is why we have David Ellison controlling CBS News now. 756 00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:10,480 Speaker 1: That is why we have a right of center owner now, 757 00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:12,600 Speaker 1: it seems at the Los Angeles Times. That's why we 758 00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:14,879 Speaker 1: have a right of center opied editor at the Washington Post. 759 00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:18,440 Speaker 2: We can also do our slow counter march through the institutions. 760 00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:20,279 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that we're going to be able to 761 00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:23,960 Speaker 1: match them power for power within the next x years 762 00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:26,960 Speaker 1: or whatever. They have a century long head start, frankly 763 00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:31,120 Speaker 1: in that Gramsian march through the institutions. But just another 764 00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,440 Speaker 1: troubling data point here when it comes to George Soros, 765 00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:35,839 Speaker 1: I don't like it one bit, and the right really 766 00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:37,759 Speaker 1: has to double data trying to match fire with fire