1 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Alex Marlow Show, and I'm glad you're here. 2 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 1: We are starting today bright and early, actually before the 3 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: break of dawn here on the West Coast, because Senator 4 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 1: Ernst has some news she wants to report to us today. 5 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 2: A friend of the show, I would say, Senator, it's 6 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 2: great to see you again. 7 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 1: And the leader John Thune has tasked you with kind 8 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:27,639 Speaker 1: of make sure that the fraud that we've seen some 9 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: in I. 10 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 2: Want to say Somalia, but I'm going to say Minnesota. 11 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:32,880 Speaker 1: For now, just to be politically correct, but it feels 12 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:35,519 Speaker 1: like Somalia is never going to happen again. I have 13 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 1: had a lot of thoughts on this, but let's start there. 14 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 1: So you're going to be or you have convened, perhaps 15 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 1: the Senate Doge Caucus. You've got a big plan you 16 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 1: want to roll out, and I want to get some 17 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 1: of the details. 18 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 3: Absolutely, thanks Alex, and yes later, Thune has tasked me, 19 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 3: as the Senate Doge Caucus chairwoman, to put together a 20 00:00:56,720 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 3: package from our members that will deal with fraud and 21 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:06,039 Speaker 3: waste and exactly now that we've seen what's going on 22 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 3: in Minnesota with the Somali population there and the massive 23 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 3: amounts of fraud through federal government programs. 24 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:17,919 Speaker 4: People are becoming excited about it. Again. 25 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 3: Nadoja has been around. We keep working, but the fact 26 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 3: is now we've got more steam behind us because we've 27 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 3: seen the exposing of these learning centers that actually had 28 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:36,960 Speaker 3: no children enrolled at them. So we are gathering today 29 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 3: in our caucus. We have a base plan already prepared 30 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 3: to present to Leader Thuon in a legislative package. 31 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 4: But what our. 32 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 3: Members will do they will present their own ideas. 33 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 4: And it's many different buckets. 34 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 3: It's government efficiency, it's closing loopholes, it's exposing fraud. I mean, 35 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 3: there are so many different ways we can get at this, 36 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 3: but we want one big package that we can move 37 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 3: through the Senate and then hopefully the House and get 38 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 3: it to the President's desk for signature. 39 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:08,639 Speaker 2: Yeah. 40 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: Of course, you were in charge of are in charge 41 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: of the Senate Doge Caucus, and you've got a reputation 42 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 1: for looking for fraud, waste, fraud and abuse in general. 43 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:19,639 Speaker 1: That's one of the things that you've made your signature 44 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: at Washington. I want to talk about are we targeting 45 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: Minnesota specifically or are we going to be looking at 46 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 1: the whole country because I got to tell you, as 47 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 1: a Californian, I got an idea for you, and it's 48 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 1: that fake high speed reil project I've been hearing about 49 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 1: my entire adult life. That is hasn't yielded one train ride. 50 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 3: Yes, so we have talked about this before, Alex, and 51 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 3: let me tell you what. They have just decided not 52 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:50,519 Speaker 3: to continue with the high speed rail project because the 53 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 3: work that we have done on exposing there. 54 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 2: Congrats Billians. 55 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 3: Yes, so we have saved just in this fiscal year alone, 56 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:00,920 Speaker 3: I think the federal government had alec hated about four 57 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 3: billion dollars. That's just in one fiscal year. Now, this 58 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:06,639 Speaker 3: has been going on for years and years and years, 59 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 3: and as you pointed out, absolutely no rail has been 60 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 3: laid for this high speed rail project. 61 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:18,919 Speaker 4: So finally gone, it is mixed, it is over. 62 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 3: We will not be providing support for that project, and 63 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 3: I don't believe the project will be continuing now. So 64 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 3: it's just exposing issues like that that you know, it 65 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 3: has been so helpful because once we expose it, people 66 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 3: get outraged, they contact their local officials, they contact us 67 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 3: here in Congress, and we're able to put an end 68 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 3: to wasteful spending. What we have seen, and back to 69 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 3: your original question, we're not just focused on Minnesota. Minnesota 70 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 3: is just the tip of the iceberg. We know that 71 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 3: there is fraud that is running rampant through federal government 72 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 3: programs all across the United States. So while we may 73 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 3: be directing a lot of our efforts at what we 74 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 3: saw in Minnesota, it means that we can cover down 75 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 3: on a number of these issues across all fifty states. 76 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 3: So just for example, we know that Minnesota was billions 77 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:19,039 Speaker 3: of dollars when it came to those childcare centers that 78 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 3: actually didn't really exist well between twenty eighteen and twenty 79 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 3: twenty two. So think you know, as we were moving 80 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 3: into the pandemic. In the years immediately following the pandemic, 81 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 3: the Government Accounting Office the GAO found anywhere between those 82 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 3: years anywhere from two hundred and thirty three billion dollars 83 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 3: to five hundred and twenty one billion dollars of fraud 84 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:53,679 Speaker 3: each of those years, and that amounts to nearly ten 85 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:55,679 Speaker 3: percent of our federal budget. 86 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 1: So my interpretation is we're never going to stop finding 87 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 1: this fraud because this is the whole mo for Democrats. 88 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 1: It's how they operate is that they try to buy 89 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: vote with government funds. They confiscate funds from the taxpayers 90 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 1: at gunpoint, and then they scatter it around their various 91 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 1: states or wherever their constituency may be in. 92 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 2: Order to try to buy votes. 93 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:22,720 Speaker 1: It feels like that's the only explanation for how things 94 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 1: should have gotten so bad in Minnesota. So if they're 95 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:26,599 Speaker 1: that bad Minnesota, of course they're going to be that 96 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 1: bad in California and probably elsewhere well. 97 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 4: Right, And it is it's a hook. 98 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 3: You know, all of this money and you just hand 99 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 3: it out and people keep coming to the trough because 100 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 3: they just want that free government money. And yeah, Democrats 101 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 3: have really conditioned their constituents too. And the way I've 102 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 3: thought about this in the past is that there are 103 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 3: various groups they're literally praying at the altar of the 104 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 3: federal government. 105 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 4: Our government programs have grown so. 106 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 3: Big and so costly, and it then becomes very difficult 107 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:11,279 Speaker 3: to audit because there's so many programs, there's so much 108 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 3: going on. So really I believe in much smaller limited government. 109 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:20,359 Speaker 3: When we grow the bureaucracy is so big that we 110 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 3: can't audit it, we need to rethink what we're doing. 111 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:26,599 Speaker 1: All right, I would be remiss if I did not 112 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 1: go through some of the you give me a tease, 113 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 1: and some of the stuff you're targeting. The California Crazy 114 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:33,600 Speaker 1: Train is high up on your list. You're also going 115 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 1: to be trying to end unemployment for millionaires. Yes, kind 116 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:41,280 Speaker 1: of a funny concept, getting bureaucrats back to work. 117 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 2: God forbid. 118 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 1: I mean, and then if we have empty and vacant 119 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: buildings that are causing us costing US billions of dollars 120 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:49,119 Speaker 1: a year, I should laugh at this stuff. 121 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 2: It's all horrifle, right. 122 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it does. 123 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 3: It sounds like a badly written comedy. 124 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 4: But this is federal government. 125 00:06:56,720 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 3: So we have exposed so much waste, and I'm grateful 126 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:04,720 Speaker 3: the Squealed team that I've had here within my office. 127 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 3: You know, we're constantly looking for fraud, waste, and abuse. 128 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 3: But then also to our DOGE caucus members as well. 129 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:14,559 Speaker 3: You know, so many people are like, oh, Doge is dead, 130 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 3: and no, because my caucus members and I have been 131 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 3: working continuously on a number of these projects and making 132 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 3: sure that not only we're ferreting out the fraud, waste 133 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 3: and abuse, but that we're actually making our federal government 134 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 3: much more efficient and so that it works better for 135 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 3: our constituencies. 136 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 4: But yeah, some of the stuff you really can't make up. 137 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: Okay, one of the items that U is on your 138 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 1: target list is recisions. 139 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 2: Explain this one. 140 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 4: Yes, absolutely. 141 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 3: So we saw earlier last year a what we call 142 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 3: a recisions package. So we were able to pass this 143 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 3: through the Congress have it signed into law by the President. 144 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 3: But we were able to say nine billion dollars through. 145 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 4: That initial recisions package. 146 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 3: And it's been a very long time since we as 147 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 3: a federal government have done that, where we've said, you 148 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 3: know what, we've programmed out these billions of dollars, but 149 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 3: we don't actually need to spend those billions of dollars, 150 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 3: so we're going to claw it back. So we did 151 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 3: that with nine billion dollars. What we are hoping to 152 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 3: do now this Congress this year, in this session is 153 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:35,559 Speaker 3: to provide our recisions priorities to the Budget Chair Lindsey 154 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 3: Graham and push Leader Thoon on doing a recisions package 155 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 3: two point zero. So I have already compiled my list 156 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 3: of priorities for that recisions package. I'm encouraging my DOGE 157 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:52,439 Speaker 3: Caucus members to do the same. It will be really 158 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:56,440 Speaker 3: important for us to go through the books once again 159 00:08:56,760 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 3: and decide where we need to actually continue spending the 160 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 3: dollars in the federal government and if they are programs 161 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 3: that aren't yielding results, pull the money back. And that's 162 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 3: what we can do through a recisions package. 163 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 1: All right, I want to give you a chance to 164 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:14,559 Speaker 1: give me any other highlights that you think are essential 165 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 1: for this audience to hear in terms of where you're 166 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:17,959 Speaker 1: targeting for cuts. 167 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, absolutely, you've named so many of them. We 168 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:27,359 Speaker 3: will continue to go through a lot of those different programs. 169 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 3: One of the areas that I have been focused on 170 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:34,559 Speaker 3: because I also chair the Small Business Committee, is continuing 171 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 3: to go after the waste and fraud that was committed 172 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:43,199 Speaker 3: in the Paycheck Protection Program and the Economic Injury Disaster 173 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 3: Loan Program. 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It's the first one 191 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 1: that actually worked. SunPower Led backs it with a money 192 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: back guarantee and a two year warranty, something most competitors 193 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 1: just can't offer. And it's made in America. Use code 194 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 1: Marlowe for ten percent off today. Stop settling for low 195 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:33,200 Speaker 1: quality devices, an upgrade to real medical grade relief. Senator, 196 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: do you think that the I'm trying to piece together 197 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 1: why the Democrats they shut down the government for forty 198 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 1: odd days, got them nothing, and now are they going 199 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 1: to shut down the government again. There's all these spending 200 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 1: bills that are out there. They were willing to do 201 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 1: this in September, but it doesn't seem like they want 202 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 1: to now, and I don't understand what change for them. 203 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 4: Well, I don't know. 204 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 3: I know that there are a couple members that have 205 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:01,559 Speaker 3: been publicly saying we need to shut down the federal 206 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:05,679 Speaker 3: government again. I don't agree with that. I think they've 207 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 3: lost a lot of steam. It was very costly to 208 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 3: shut down the federal government and a lot of people 209 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 3: were hurt, those that rely on programs, those that are 210 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:20,559 Speaker 3: most needy and vulnerable. So I think the blowback has 211 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:22,959 Speaker 3: been pretty extreme on the Democrats. 212 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 4: I think the American people. 213 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 3: Have really woken up to the fact that it was 214 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:31,319 Speaker 3: Democrats that actually was shutting down the federal government. 215 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:35,199 Speaker 4: So, you know, we'll see what happens, Alex. 216 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 3: But I think we've got great, great partners that actually 217 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 3: do want to move forward with these appropriations bills. And 218 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:44,680 Speaker 3: what I would remind folks to is that through these 219 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 3: appropriations bills will actually be saving money on where we 220 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 3: would be going if we just did a clean continuing resolution. 221 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 4: So we're actually you. 222 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 3: Know, cutting back a few billion here a few billion there, 223 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 3: it may difference. 224 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 1: What about is your ICE funding that's coming up in 225 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 1: some of these appropriations that we're discussing now, because if 226 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:09,319 Speaker 1: there is, it just feels like one that's politically sort 227 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 1: of suicidal for Democrats to vote for, even though I mean, 228 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:14,680 Speaker 1: I think ICE is doing my large. 229 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 2: Terrific work, but it is a political football for them. 230 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:22,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely it is. And God bless those ICE agents. 231 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 3: I pray for them every single day. They've had some 232 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 3: really difficult times and are doing a great service for 233 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:36,200 Speaker 3: the American people. But it will be a really tough 234 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 3: vote for the Democrats to take. So DHS Department of 235 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 3: Homeland Security is not in front of us right now 236 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 3: as an appropriations bill. It will be coming forward soon 237 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:55,199 Speaker 3: and the Democrats will will have to make that decision 238 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 3: do we support this bill or do we allow it 239 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 3: to lapse? And if they do, I'm telling you, it's 240 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 3: the safety of the American people. It's protecting our homeland. 241 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 4: That's what these. 242 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 3: Folks do, as well as other various agencies that fall 243 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 3: under DHS. So they're going to be called out on 244 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 3: the carpet on the floor of the Senate and the House, 245 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 3: and they're going to have to figure out do we 246 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 3: want to protect our nation or do we stand by 247 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 3: convicted rapists, murders, those that are here illegally. That's who 248 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 3: they're defending, because that's who ICE is apprehending, Narco terrorists, 249 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 3: people that do human trafficking. You know, it's Heaven's awful, 250 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 3: but that's who Democrats are defending if they decide to 251 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 3: defund ICE. 252 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 1: How about healthcare because a lot of the affordability issue 253 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 1: is going to always healthcare is always first and foremost 254 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 1: for Americans, it seems like in this regard, and Republicans 255 00:14:57,200 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 1: are in a tough spot. This is one where the 256 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 1: Democrats broke the healthcare system and yet they pull better 257 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 1: than Republicans on this. And there's not a ton of 258 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 1: great options. No one likes the idea of extending Obamacare subsidies, 259 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 1: but we also don't like the idea of seeing people's 260 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 1: premiums balloon and having it be our fault. 261 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 2: So one are the options that are out there. 262 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 1: I know there's a Morino Collins bill from Bernie Marino 263 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 1: and Susan Collins, which seems like some sort of a 264 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 1: compromised bill. Does anything have legs that the audience should 265 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 1: hear about at this point, do you think. 266 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 3: Well, I do think that is the one that has 267 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 3: the legs, and finding a compromise where we can continue 268 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 3: with a small amount of subsidy moving forward, perhaps phasing 269 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 3: that out as we make corrections in the system. We 270 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 3: know that the health insurers that has to be addressed. 271 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 3: We should not be sending checks from the federal government 272 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 3: directly to health insurers because you know, every time we 273 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 3: do that, they are just pumping up the rates as 274 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 3: much as they can because I know why the federal 275 00:15:57,360 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 3: government's going to pay. So we have to look at that. 276 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 3: We have to look at the overall cost of healthcare 277 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 3: and what's at the root of that. So there's a 278 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 3: lot of things that need to be corrected and we've 279 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 3: just got to be able to move forward on that. 280 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 3: But in the meantime, I think the compromise package is 281 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 3: probably what we'll move forward on. A lot more discussion 282 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 3: to follow on that, But you're right, Americans, they need 283 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 3: the healthcare coverage and they need it to be affordable. 284 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 3: But the Obamacare system, it didn't make it more affordable 285 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 3: and made it much more unaffordable for everyday Americans, which 286 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 3: is why we've required federal government subsidies. 287 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 4: If it were affordable, we wouldn't need that. 288 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 3: So let's just recognize Obamacare did not do what it 289 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 3: had promised, and we've got to find a way out 290 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 3: of this mess that's on us here in the Congress. 291 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 3: We've got to figure out a way forward. But in 292 00:16:57,240 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 3: the meantime, it's been pretty messy. 293 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 1: And Task Staff centergy Ernans of Iowa, thank you for 294 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 1: being here on the Alex Marlow Show and we will 295 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 1: talk soon. 296 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:05,879 Speaker 4: Thanks so much, Alex. 297 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:22,120 Speaker 1: Right, Interior Secretary Doug Bergham is with me. I'm told 298 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:26,400 Speaker 1: you're the fifty fifth Interior secretary of the United States. Secretary, 299 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:27,919 Speaker 1: did you know that you're your fifty fifth in the 300 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 1: list at least according to the Internet. 301 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:34,639 Speaker 5: That's that's accurate, Alex, and honored to serve in the 302 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:38,400 Speaker 5: as leading the most misnamed department in all of government. 303 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I believe that. What do you expand on that? 304 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:41,920 Speaker 1: I mean, share what you mean by that? 305 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 5: Well, I mean interior people think like you're inside something 306 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 5: they think of like interior design. They think maybe they 307 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 5: get its interior of a continent, like you're the secretary 308 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 5: of Nebraska. But you know, Interior has got. If it 309 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 5: was a standalone, standalone balance sheet of Interior would be 310 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:01,880 Speaker 5: the largest balance sheet of any company. 311 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 6: Private or public in the world. 312 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:07,200 Speaker 5: Five hundred million acres of surface land, seven hundred million 313 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 5: acres a subsurface, three billion plus of offshore undersea acres. 314 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 5: And of course, even like our biggest some of our 315 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 5: biggest states, whether you've got Utah, Nevada, Alaska, and some 316 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 5: of those places, the federal government owns up to sixty 317 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 5: percent of the land in those states. 318 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:27,880 Speaker 6: So it is a huge responsibility. 319 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 5: All the national parks, all the historic battlefields, all US. 320 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 6: Fish and wildlife. 321 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 5: Great opportunity to be celebrating the freedom to fifty this 322 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 5: year as we celebrate a two hundred and fiftieth anniversary. 323 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 5: But when you take a look at the in addition 324 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 5: to everything I've described, fourteen time zones from Guam to 325 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 5: the US Virgin Islands. These are all managed relationships US 326 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:55,359 Speaker 5: territories by Interior, And of course we've got Air Force 327 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:58,440 Speaker 5: bases in the Pacific on these territories. The people who 328 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:01,680 Speaker 5: live there are US citizens. So it's a fascinating breadth 329 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 5: of a job. But maybe it should be called the 330 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:06,160 Speaker 5: Department of the exterior because it's got a. 331 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:08,119 Speaker 6: Lot to do with the outdoors and not really anything 332 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 6: to do with the indoors. 333 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:11,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was going to say, Greg and Sean, I'm 334 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 1: gonna have to scrap my first half dozen questions which 335 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 1: were all about interior design. 336 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 2: So that was a big mistake. It really messed up 337 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:18,160 Speaker 2: the prep. Here. 338 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:21,919 Speaker 1: Secretary, I want to talk about your role in the 339 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:25,120 Speaker 1: administration where I think you and Secretary right at Energy 340 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 1: could be the key that picks the lock for this 341 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:30,439 Speaker 1: year where we're going to be NonStop affordability talk. If 342 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 1: you guys can get some room to run and do 343 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 1: what you want to do. I think prices in this 344 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 1: country are going to come down, and I think people 345 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 1: are going to be making a lot of money. But 346 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 1: I want to start overseas. It's the Department of Exterior. 347 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 1: And let's talk about Venezuela. The President was very critical 348 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 1: of when we waged war in Iraq for two decades, 349 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:48,120 Speaker 1: lost a lot of people, lost a lot of treasure, 350 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 1: and then didn't take the oil even though there were 351 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 1: constant news cycles about taking the oil. Do you see 352 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:57,160 Speaker 1: us acquiring some of that Venezuelan oil? And I also 353 00:19:57,160 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 1: want to hear about what that creud is like. It's 354 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:01,879 Speaker 1: much heavier, but it is useful in some ways. 355 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 2: Speak less about this. 356 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 6: Well, two things. 357 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 5: Let's talk about the economics of this President Trump brilliant 358 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:17,200 Speaker 5: strategy that he's executing on Venezuela, breathtakingly perfect execution of 359 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:20,639 Speaker 5: as commander in chief. But then we take a look 360 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 5: at it from a geopolitical standpoint. The conducting this law 361 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 5: enforcement effort against a criminal who was posing as a 362 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:34,440 Speaker 5: president in Venezuela and was in a country that exported 363 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:37,399 Speaker 5: three things, oil, gold, and drugs, and most of the 364 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:41,440 Speaker 5: drugs were coming to the US. President Trump stopped step one, 365 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:43,679 Speaker 5: stopped the mass invasion, control the border. 366 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 6: Step two. 367 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 5: We were taking mass casualties because of all the drugs 368 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 5: coming into our country. And I mean we lost the 369 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:53,640 Speaker 5: equivalent of six Vietnams of deaths in America under Joe 370 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 5: Biden because of overdoses from illegal drugs, mostly coming over 371 00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 5: the southern border. 372 00:20:58,359 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 6: So to stop the flow of that. 373 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 5: But then we've got this corrupt country was turning into 374 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:07,919 Speaker 5: Venezuela was turning into the playground for every bad actor 375 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:12,680 Speaker 5: in the world. Hamas Asbala, the Russians, the Iranians and 376 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 5: who was benefiting for all that in China because when 377 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 5: failed sanctions, even if the oil is still going out 378 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:21,679 Speaker 5: in the dark fleet, it was going out and discounts 379 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 5: up to thirty three percent off of list. China was 380 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 5: the number one buyer of all that, and so it 381 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 5: was it was helping our adversaries hurting America. All of 382 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 5: that flipped around in one fell swoop. What it could 383 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 5: mean in terms of toppling Cuba, what it could mean 384 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 5: towards helping the economy the United States because on to 385 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 5: set your second question, Yes, Venezuelan crude is heavy crude. 386 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:48,680 Speaker 5: But with that heavy crude, there's an opportunity. Our refineries 387 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 5: twenty five years ago on the Gulf of a Meerck 388 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:53,439 Speaker 5: Coast were set up to process. 389 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 6: That Venezuelan crue. 390 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 5: You put billions more into your refinery, but you can 391 00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 5: get more products out of it on the heavy end, 392 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 5: including things like asphalt for road building. Right, there's value 393 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 5: there once you've made the investment in refinery. There's value 394 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 5: to managing that level of crude. So that connection had 395 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 5: been broken, there wasn't Venezuelan crude coming into the US 396 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:16,919 Speaker 5: that's going to mean lower prices for gasoline, for diesel, 397 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 5: for aviation fuel. It's going to mean increased jobs on 398 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:21,919 Speaker 5: the Golf Coast and American refineries. 399 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:23,160 Speaker 6: It means all of those things. 400 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 5: And for Venezuela, it means that they can start getting 401 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 5: paid the world price for their oil again as opposed 402 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 5: to this massively discounted prices. And the US is part 403 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 5: of the arrangement we have with the interim authorities in 404 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:42,640 Speaker 5: Venezuela is we control the marketing and the sale of 405 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 5: their oil. That's the lever that we have as part 406 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:49,639 Speaker 5: of this relationship for providing the security, if you will, 407 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 5: to protect Venezuela and to help keep the bad actors 408 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 5: out of air and then get normal relations going from 409 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 5: an economic standpoint between our two countries, which. 410 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 6: Is beneficial of both. 411 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,120 Speaker 5: But when you do that when at the world's largest reserves, 412 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 5: bigger than Saudi Arabia, this is a blow to opek 413 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 5: in that it shifts the center of the dominance energy 414 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:15,639 Speaker 5: dominance back to the Western Hemisphere, maybe to the Western 415 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,639 Speaker 5: Hemisphere for the very first time after in a post 416 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 5: World War two era it's been predominantly controlled by the 417 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 5: Middle East. When the Middle East is always full of conflict. 418 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 5: We like President Trump, would like to end that. Maybe 419 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 5: we're getting closer to that. But this is a big 420 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 5: thing for world peace and it's a huge thing for 421 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:35,440 Speaker 5: American prosperity with these brilliant moves President Trump made on Venezuela. 422 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,440 Speaker 1: All right, so I want to talk about red state 423 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 1: versus Blue state energy prices. I live in a blue state. 424 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 1: I'm still paying over five bucks a gallon for gas. 425 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 1: I live in California. So it's the and I dodged 426 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:50,640 Speaker 1: tomatoes whenever I have to announce that out loud. But 427 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:52,440 Speaker 1: what's the difference. Why is it feel like it's so 428 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 1: much cheapier to get energy in red states? 429 00:23:55,760 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 5: Well, there's a ideology has been driving politics, and politics 430 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 5: has been driving policies, and policies drive pricing. And in 431 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 5: blue states, if you say, hey, we are going to 432 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 5: not have affordable, reliable US energy and we're going to go. 433 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 6: Down the path the Green New scam, and we're going 434 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 6: to go for. 435 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 5: Highly taxpayer subsidized, intermittent, weather dependent sources of energy, then 436 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 5: there's a premium on that, which is part of the scam. 437 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:31,439 Speaker 5: Was didn't tell anybody the producers and the folks that 438 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 5: are getting those tax credits are going to get rich, 439 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 5: but you, as a consumers are going to become poorer 440 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 5: and poorer because you're going to have to pay more. 441 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:42,119 Speaker 5: And California is an extreme case of this, so is 442 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 5: New York and the whole New England area. But take 443 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:48,639 Speaker 5: the price of electricity in New England. It's triple the 444 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,680 Speaker 5: cost thirty cents for a kill a lot of electricity 445 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:53,440 Speaker 5: in New England versus ten cents in. 446 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 6: My home state of North Dakota. 447 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:58,439 Speaker 5: And so it is, so that is like triple what 448 00:24:58,520 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 5: people are paying. 449 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:01,239 Speaker 6: And then you take a look at it. 450 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 5: You talked about plus five dollars a gallon for gas 451 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:05,400 Speaker 5: in California. 452 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 6: California used to have forty refineries, now they have eight. 453 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:09,360 Speaker 6: Two more. 454 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:12,639 Speaker 5: Chevron and Valero have announced their closing because of the 455 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:16,439 Speaker 5: regulatory red tape that's choking them out of business. And 456 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 5: then meanwhile, because California, like New York, has blocked pipelines 457 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,919 Speaker 5: coming into the state where you could be getting affordable, 458 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 5: reliable US energy that could be converted into electricity, California 459 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 5: is actually a national security threat right now. Sixty three 460 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:33,720 Speaker 5: percent on their own California website, their own reported data, 461 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 5: sixty three percent of the oil that's consumed in California 462 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 5: is being imported from foreign countries Iraq number one on 463 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 5: the list. So in California, for all their vaunted regulation 464 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:50,880 Speaker 5: about going with evs, they California still has more internal 465 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:52,200 Speaker 5: combustion cars. 466 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 6: Than any other state, even as vehicles. 467 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:58,640 Speaker 5: So it is a tax on the citizens of California 468 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 5: that is completely unnecessary. 469 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 6: It's all driven by ideology and politics. 470 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,119 Speaker 5: It's not I mean, we could provide all of the 471 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 5: energy that California needs here domestically secure, reliable, affordable sources. 472 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 5: The leaders of the state that are creating these rules 473 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 5: that are causing these prices to be inflicted on their citizens. 474 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:19,200 Speaker 2: All right, So now at the west coast of the 475 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 2: lower forty eight. 476 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:23,119 Speaker 1: Now let's go to the far eastern northern part of 477 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:25,719 Speaker 1: the United States, the fifty first state. Of course, I'm 478 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 1: talking about Greenland. Secretary, What is the energy resources like 479 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 1: in Greenland? I'm hoping being a little bit tugu and 480 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,359 Speaker 1: cheek here, but I am hoping we acquire it somehow. 481 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 1: If we do, what do we get out of it 482 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 1: from an energy and a ability to produce at standpoint, Well, we. 483 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 5: Take a look at presidential action that shaped our country. 484 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 5: When we look back on the two hundred and fifty 485 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:52,440 Speaker 5: years Thomas Jefferson Louisiana purchase. 486 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 6: Transformed our country. 487 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:57,880 Speaker 5: When Alaska was purchased, it was called Seward's Folly after 488 00:26:57,880 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 5: the Secretary of State. 489 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 6: But Alaska, you know, is the other bookend on North America. 490 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 5: You take a look at a map of the world 491 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:08,199 Speaker 5: from the North Pole looking down, You've got Alaska on 492 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 5: one side, Greenland on the other side. Greenland people say 493 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:13,879 Speaker 5: it's so far away. Greenland's closer to Washington, d c. 494 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 5: Than than than Alaska is. It's in a heck of 495 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 5: a lot closer than Hawaii is. It's definitely closer than 496 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:23,199 Speaker 5: our territories that we have in the Pacific. So it 497 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 5: is rich in critical minerals. Obviously, China's cornered the market 498 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 5: on that we as a country have to get back 499 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 5: into the mining and resource production business in our country. 500 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,679 Speaker 5: But whether it's the critical minerals are there or the 501 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 5: strategic location it has because you know, I know, growing 502 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 5: up in North Dakota, we had more missile silos than 503 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 5: any other state to protect this country from missiles coming from. 504 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 6: Russia over the top of the North Pole. 505 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 5: Greenland prevents presents even a better line of defense for 506 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 5: both US and for Europe out of there. And again, 507 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:59,640 Speaker 5: as President Trump has said, if we're not if we're 508 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 5: not in Greenland, uh, you know you know who's got 509 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:04,440 Speaker 5: built six weather stations there. 510 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,680 Speaker 6: China. You know you know who's got a presence there. Russia. 511 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:09,879 Speaker 6: Everybody wants to encroach in on the Artic. 512 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:11,679 Speaker 5: The Arctic is going to be the new frontier of 513 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 5: defense around the northern hemisphere, and we need to It's 514 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:19,399 Speaker 5: absolutely from a national security standpoint, the US needs to 515 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 5: have a presence in Greenland. Well, I think the logical yeah, 516 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,480 Speaker 5: the lot, but the logical places for them. You know, 517 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 5: our president is someone who can strike a deal. He's 518 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,399 Speaker 5: the best deal maker we've ever had as president. I 519 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:34,120 Speaker 5: think there's a win win here, absolutely a huge win 520 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,959 Speaker 5: win for for Denmark, for Greenland, and for the United States. 521 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 5: President Trump will find that deal, I'm sure. 522 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 2: Secretary Bergham, I got about a minute left. 523 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 1: I'm looking at some of these big beautiful bill benefits 524 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 1: that are going to be ripening over the course of 525 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 1: the year. What are you most excited about that could 526 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 1: unleash American energy Dominance. 527 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 5: Well, what I'm most excited about is for Americans, as 528 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 5: it's been renamed, but the Working Family's Tax Cut Bill. 529 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 5: This thing is, you know, put more money in people's pockets, 530 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 5: whether it's over time, you know, our older citizens with 531 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 5: Social Security or people that are working for tips. I mean, 532 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 5: this thing is there's going to be some big refund 533 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 5: checks coming to people this year and even more during 534 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 5: twenty twenty six. So I'm excited about that. But this 535 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 5: bill helps us cut red tape. We've cut so much 536 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 5: red tape. President Sump said, Drill, Baby, Drill. We got 537 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 5: codified in that bill, the ability. We've increased the number 538 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 5: of permits over the last year of the Biden administration 539 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 5: by fifty five percent. And so the reason why we're 540 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 5: seeing record production in the US, we're seeing record L 541 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 5: and G exports. 542 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 6: Those are all things that are driving prices down. 543 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 5: Energy is a component of the food you eat, the 544 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 5: clothes on your back, the gas in your car, and 545 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 5: how you heat your home. President Trump's red cutting red 546 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 5: tape and getting us back in the business of producing 547 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 5: is driving prices down for all Americans. 548 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 1: At Secretary Doug Berghm Secretary Doug Berghen of the interior 549 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 1: at Secretary Burgram with two u's on next the Everything app. 550 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 2: Thanks Secretary, come back anytime. 551 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 6: Thank you, Alex. 552 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 2: We have a terrific team on The Marlow Show. 553 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 1: Sean McConnell's our board operator, Roger Wicker, Junior, Rick Lock, 554 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 1: Garrett Shali, Matt Zibbel, Brandon Couples, Misty Callahan, John Cassio, 555 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 1: and our executive producer Greg Evan. I'll pitch in quite 556 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 1: a bit on the show Daniel West as well. I'm 557 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 1: adding all these credits here. So for just a one 558 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 1: hour show, I am doing three additional podcasts though, every week, 559 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 1: and I just recorded one with my good friend Joel Pollock, 560 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 1: who's now at the California Post, which is sort of 561 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 1: the New York Posts been off. 562 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 2: He worked for me for many years of bright Bird News. 563 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 1: He's very close with Scott Adams, and we could do 564 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 1: a deep dive on Adams' life and lessons and those 565 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:42,720 Speaker 1: of you who like Scott or didn't know him very well, 566 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 1: I think you're going to enjoy that. 567 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 2: And that's up wherever you get your Marlow podcasts, some 568 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 2: real insight there. 569 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 1: Joel was also someone who was one of my middle 570 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 1: East experts, and we get into Iran and the hope 571 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 1: that we all have that these latest latest round of 572 00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 1: Iranian protests will be too much for the regime to handle, 573 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 1: and maybe it will collapse and whatever replaces it will 574 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 1: likely be better. 575 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,000 Speaker 2: But we don't really know what that could be at 576 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 2: this point. 577 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 1: But I'll tell you that just the fact that these 578 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 1: people are out there in the street showing such bravery 579 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 1: they could be killed at any moment. 580 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 2: It's also letting the. 581 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 1: Sunlight shine upon the deranged nature of the Democrat left 582 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,720 Speaker 1: here in the United States of America. Currently leading Breitbart 583 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:24,959 Speaker 1: dot com right now my news outlet, you don't get 584 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 1: the Britpart dot com app is a story from a 585 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 1: Democrat representative, Eugene Vinman, who is the brother of Alexander Vinman, 586 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 1: who is one of the stars of the bogus Trump 587 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 1: impeachments that I've written about extensively. 588 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 2: Let's play cut five guys. 589 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 7: Well, first of all, I think we all recognize that 590 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 7: the Iranian regime is an authoritarian regime that is suppressing 591 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 7: its people. 592 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 2: And you know, I recognize. 593 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 7: That in my own family experience, we've fled from a 594 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 7: communist authoritarian regime and we need to support the Iranian 595 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 7: people in their struggle for freedom and independence. They're protesting largely, 596 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 7: piece fully on the streets, and they're being attacked and murdered, 597 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 7: and I think, you know, there's an irony obviously in 598 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 7: what we see with ice on america streets. 599 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 1: You see that an irony with ice on America's streets. 600 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 1: This is just evidence of one of my refrains that 601 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 1: I will make from time to time that it's been 602 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 1: abundantly clear for a long time that the left just 603 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 1: hates this country in America, that they're really rooting against 604 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:27,480 Speaker 1: the United States of America. There are thousands confirmed that 605 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 1: are dead in these Iranian protests, and there are some 606 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 1: reports that could be upwards of twenty thousand. People are 607 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 1: still flooding the streets because they want to see that 608 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 1: regime toppled. That they don't like the authoritarian nature of it, 609 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:39,959 Speaker 1: they don't like the Islamism that's taken over that country 610 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,479 Speaker 1: that was once on track to be a westernized country 611 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 1: within the Middle East and has been completely derailed and 612 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 1: has become one of the hell holes on the planet, 613 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 1: where they don't have water, where their currency is no value. 614 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 1: And yet you see this guy comparing it to an 615 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 1: ice agent who shoots someone who was deliberately, agitating, possibly paid, 616 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 1: driving a four thousand pound car at him. 617 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 2: It's the same. 618 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 1: Is the Islamist authoritarian undemocratically elected Iranian regime cracking down 619 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:10,240 Speaker 1: on peaceful protesters in the street. That's how deranged and 620 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 1: lunatic the establishment left is in this country at this time. Remember, 621 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:18,120 Speaker 1: Renee Good would be alive if not for those Somali 622 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:21,719 Speaker 1: fraudsters and Somali fraud ring. She had deliberately positioned her 623 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 1: car in a way that was obstructing with a law 624 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 1: enforcement operation. She had her obnoxious lesbian wife taunting her 625 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 1: while she was there, smiling, agitating, provoking, obviously trying to 626 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 1: cause problems deliberately, and it got out of hand. Now 627 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 1: was the shooting justified? 628 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 2: I don't know. 629 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,239 Speaker 1: I think a jury is going to decide that it is. 630 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,000 Speaker 1: But I'll tell you that is not remotely close to 631 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,400 Speaker 1: what's going on in Iran. And to think that democrats 632 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 1: can see all the peace and prosperity in this country 633 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:51,880 Speaker 1: where we live, in a place where we can import 634 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 1: I think it's over one hundred thousand Somalians in Minnesota 635 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 1: and what percentage of the fraud that's taking place in 636 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 1: that state is from the Somalian imigrants that we welcomed 637 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 1: in this country. 638 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 2: And then you start doing the math. Why was this tolerated? 639 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,840 Speaker 1: Why was this maybe even encouraged by the Democrat establishment 640 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,399 Speaker 1: because they know that's their voter base. The criminal voter 641 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,400 Speaker 1: base is animating that party right now. It's driving that party. 642 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:20,960 Speaker 1: The energy is with either legal aliens, fraudsters, small time crooks. 643 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 2: That's who they live for. They hate law and order. 644 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:25,960 Speaker 1: The left hates law and order, and for them to 645 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,920 Speaker 1: see what happened in Minnesota and to compare that to 646 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,839 Speaker 1: what's happening in Iran, it just reveals so much about them, 647 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,680 Speaker 1: really important stuff our that'st Today's show went by super fast. 648 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:37,400 Speaker 1: We got all got stuff for you on the Marlow 649 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 1: Feed and I will share with you also brightbart dot 650 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:43,920 Speaker 1: com all day every day for breaking news. That's my 651 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,799 Speaker 1: baby front page editor there for oh it's been going 652 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:50,240 Speaker 1: on twelve thirteen years. I've been attached to that front page, 653 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 1: enjoyed every day putting up the fastest, hardest hitting breaking 654 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,480 Speaker 1: news for all of you, and plus some fresh content 655 00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:56,920 Speaker 1: for you on the podcast feeds. 656 00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,560 Speaker 2: That'll do it for now. I'm Alex Marlowe and we 657 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,880 Speaker 2: will talk to all of you tomorrow. 658 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:05,960 Speaker 1: Oh we gotta got thirty still A wow, that's it's say, 659 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:07,759 Speaker 1: I mean, the first time I've ever done that. And 660 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 1: on the on the new show, it's a getting the 661 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 1: count wrong. Okay, So I was told I have to Okay, 662 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:14,800 Speaker 1: now now I see it. So I'll just compliment Shawn's 663 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 1: Shawn's beard today, like That's what I'll do with the 664 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 1: last thirty seconds. 665 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 2: Is the look is really noteworthy. 666 00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:21,480 Speaker 1: Also, how I did not have the hair organized for 667 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 1: the Urnst interview and I got it organized for the 668 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:24,400 Speaker 1: Burgherm interview. 669 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,439 Speaker 2: And I wonder if they watch it back to back, if. 670 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:27,640 Speaker 1: One of them is gonna say, hey, how come you 671 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:30,720 Speaker 1: got the better version, better version of the marlow hair style. 672 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 2: It was just time, like we did the Urgent interview. 673 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:35,800 Speaker 1: Five am I get sleeping children couldn't get in a 674 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:37,840 Speaker 1: wardrobe by then, or couldn't get int the hair and makeup? 675 00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:39,680 Speaker 2: All right, that's it, see guys tomorrow