WEBVTT - Post-Midterm Therapy 0:00:02.070 --> 0:00:05.740 Welcome to a meeting of the minds, crafted from decades 0:00:05.800 --> 0:00:09.080 of talk show experience. An extension of the magic they've 0:00:09.140 --> 0:00:13.740 created together on radio. In the phenomenon called M & M. 0:00:14.000 --> 0:00:17.150 Hot topics in the news and wisdom from life. It's 0:00:17.390 --> 0:00:21.110 Mark Davis and Mike Gallagher. This is M & M Extra. 0:00:21.170 --> 0:00:25.320 M & M Extra. Hey, everybody. Come on in. Half 0:00:25.440 --> 0:00:28.680 the hosts, twice the excitement. It is Friday. It is 0:00:28.720 --> 0:00:32.140 the sixth day of November, and welcome to M. Yesterday 0:00:32.180 --> 0:00:35.000 was also M, as in Mike, because Mike did it 0:00:35.020 --> 0:00:37.989 because I was doing a lunchtime speaking engagement, and it 0:00:38.030 --> 0:00:41.589 was awesome. Today it's M, as in Mark, because Mike 0:00:41.670 --> 0:00:45.070 is doing a wonderful, wonderful thing. 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We are, 0:01:57.380 --> 0:02:01.020 if it's possible... more grateful than we ordinarily usually would 0:02:01.060 --> 0:02:04.870 be to have your listenership and your input in what 0:02:05.110 --> 0:02:09.670 are going to be podcasts, radio broadcasts and everything we 0:02:09.690 --> 0:02:14.370 do that I think actually just got more important. Important 0:02:14.410 --> 0:02:17.530 is a weird word. Here's what I mean. If let's 0:02:17.570 --> 0:02:23.579 say that we had had an amazing pleasant surprise on, Oh, 0:02:23.639 --> 0:02:26.720 would that that were true? An amazing pleasant surprise on 0:02:26.800 --> 0:02:30.560 Tuesday and, even to the extent of not losing the 0:02:30.600 --> 0:02:33.560 House by as much, keeping the Senate, et cetera, et cetera. 0:02:33.820 --> 0:02:36.320 Let's say Texas was still a red state. Oh, dare 0:02:36.360 --> 0:02:40.160 we dream. Our path forward would have been as vital 0:02:40.240 --> 0:02:44.250 as ever, as important as ever, as enjoyable as ever, 0:02:44.320 --> 0:02:51.590 as inspiring as ever. But now, faced with this, man, 0:02:51.610 --> 0:02:53.990 we got work to do. I mean, those of us 0:02:54.050 --> 0:02:57.220 in conservative media, And I mean those of you, no 0:02:57.300 --> 0:03:01.320 matter what you are doing. Because here in my state 0:03:01.340 --> 0:03:04.130 of Texas, we have a state to save. In Florida, 0:03:04.169 --> 0:03:08.570 where Mike lives, well, well, well, look at you. Ashley 0:03:08.630 --> 0:03:12.470 Booty winning for the Senate. Byron Donald winning for governor. 0:03:12.889 --> 0:03:17.910 And the Ron DeSantis victory lap. Ooh, mama. There is 0:03:18.030 --> 0:03:21.810 quite the Ron DeSantis swoon going on for these last 0:03:21.850 --> 0:03:27.109 few days. engaged in most notably by Ron DeSantis. I mean, 0:03:27.310 --> 0:03:31.330 I think I saw him on the home and garden TV. 0:03:31.570 --> 0:03:32.870 He's absolutely everywhere. 0:03:33.710 --> 0:03:34.510 And why not? 0:03:35.470 --> 0:03:38.850 And why not? Because I sit here in Texas with 0:03:38.910 --> 0:03:43.570 everybody just shell shocked and our entire power structure being 0:03:43.850 --> 0:03:49.110 swept out like dust. There he is in a still 0:03:49.510 --> 0:03:55.619 red Florida. And I think his leadership is a lot 0:03:55.650 --> 0:04:02.870 of why. They proved themselves immune, well, not immune, resistant 0:04:03.610 --> 0:04:07.830 to what grabbed a hold of my state, grabbed a 0:04:07.880 --> 0:04:13.900 hold of Kansas, grabbed a hold of South Carolina. A 0:04:13.960 --> 0:04:16.120 lot of things happened, but there's some things that did 0:04:16.160 --> 0:04:19.350 not happen. Let's talk about what did not happen on Tuesday. 0:04:19.400 --> 0:04:24.330 The over analysis has been a little bit comical. This 0:04:24.370 --> 0:04:27.250 was not on the national scene, much as some people 0:04:27.270 --> 0:04:29.950 will try to paint it as such a broad rebuke 0:04:30.010 --> 0:04:33.140 of everything Trump has ever done. America did not decide 0:04:33.220 --> 0:04:35.300 suddenly they would like to open the borders or that 0:04:35.320 --> 0:04:39.980 there are indeed 27 genders or, you know, no, this 0:04:40.040 --> 0:04:44.940 was about prices. But gas prices, which means everything prices, 0:04:44.960 --> 0:04:47.520 because when fuel goes up, everything goes up, as we 0:04:47.560 --> 0:04:51.750 have painfully learned. And ultimately, that means that the catalyst 0:04:51.770 --> 0:04:54.990 was the war. The decision made by President Trump at 0:04:55.029 --> 0:04:59.150 the end of, what was it, February, to take action 0:04:59.250 --> 0:05:02.430 to keep Iran from becoming a nuclear weaponry power, and 0:05:02.470 --> 0:05:06.339 I thank God for that decision every day, really do. Gee, Mark, 0:05:06.420 --> 0:05:10.279 even with the result that it yielded this past Tuesday. Okay. 0:05:11.370 --> 0:05:14.250 All right, let's think about that. Let's make a time machine. 0:05:15.710 --> 0:05:19.210 Let's go back. It's February. President Trump says, I've looked 0:05:19.230 --> 0:05:22.050 at this. We're going to let it ride. We're not 0:05:22.070 --> 0:05:26.340 going to do any kind of action toward Iran. Gas 0:05:26.360 --> 0:05:30.380 stays at 235 a gallon. Yay. But then in April, 0:05:31.940 --> 0:05:35.100 a nuke hits Paris. Time to go after the infidels. 0:05:36.260 --> 0:05:39.240 We've allowed them to become a nuclear power. And hey, 0:05:39.300 --> 0:05:43.520 what the heck? How about Los Angeles? nuclear weaponry from 0:05:43.580 --> 0:05:47.860 iran hitting us hitting our allies to say nothing of 0:05:47.900 --> 0:05:51.000 israel they probably would have been first you happy then 0:05:51.020 --> 0:05:54.710 i know that seems like a binary choice but it 0:05:54.750 --> 0:05:57.590 is a binary choice which one do you want uh 0:05:57.670 --> 0:06:00.090 you enjoy that cheap gas while iran is a nuclear 0:06:00.130 --> 0:06:04.470 power this is what president trump wanted to forestall it's 0:06:04.490 --> 0:06:07.070 what he wanted to prevent and then he has Now, 0:06:07.120 --> 0:06:08.859 I can't sit here and tell you that I magically 0:06:08.920 --> 0:06:10.860 know that, you know, we just prevented a nuke from 0:06:10.880 --> 0:06:13.100 hitting somewhere in Europe. I don't know. But I don't 0:06:13.140 --> 0:06:16.750 know that we didn't. And I'm grateful. I just didn't 0:06:16.790 --> 0:06:20.730 have enough company, clearly, because for many and I don't 0:06:20.810 --> 0:06:22.929 beat on people for this. I don't blame them for this. 0:06:23.790 --> 0:06:25.290 Four dollar gas is a bitch. 0:06:27.400 --> 0:06:28.159 I know. I know. 0:06:28.180 --> 0:06:31.380 I know. I know. And as Jane Carville famously said, 0:06:31.420 --> 0:06:34.150 it's the economy, stupid. And it often is. And that 0:06:34.230 --> 0:06:37.390 ate up all the oxygen. The midterms are always a 0:06:37.430 --> 0:06:40.550 referendum on whoever's in power, who's in power. We are. 0:06:41.070 --> 0:06:44.300 Republicans are. Trump is. And all the things that Trump 0:06:44.339 --> 0:06:46.520 can say, all the things Republicans can say, all the 0:06:46.540 --> 0:06:49.440 things that I often said, Mike always says, hey, you 0:06:49.480 --> 0:06:52.460 like those fixed borders? Hey, you like those reduction in 0:06:52.500 --> 0:06:54.780 crime levels? That's because grownups are in charge. We're actually 0:06:54.820 --> 0:06:59.429 prosecuting people. We're actually preventing lawbreakers from coming into the country. 0:06:59.470 --> 0:07:02.480 We're getting rid of the ones we find. Hey, you 0:07:02.520 --> 0:07:05.000 like that gender sanity? We're not even putting pronouns in 0:07:05.020 --> 0:07:07.140 the bio anymore. We fixed that. We got rid of 0:07:07.160 --> 0:07:12.050 all that garbage. Isn't that worth something? Yeah, it's worth something. 0:07:13.310 --> 0:07:16.850 But it didn't make 450 gas okay. It didn't make 0:07:16.910 --> 0:07:20.710 expensive everything okay. People were in a mood to deliver 0:07:20.730 --> 0:07:23.550 a message and deliver a massive middle finger, and boy, 0:07:23.630 --> 0:07:28.760 they did. Which means, quite frankly, that it was pretty 0:07:28.820 --> 0:07:33.120 unavoidable because there is no time machine. The war is 0:07:33.180 --> 0:07:35.620 in progress. I don't know when it ends. I hope soon. 0:07:35.820 --> 0:07:37.680 What does that involve? Finish the job. What does that 0:07:37.700 --> 0:07:39.800 even mean? We'll talk about that here in a little bit. 0:07:41.180 --> 0:07:43.040 But since the war is in progress and the president 0:07:43.120 --> 0:07:48.590 made the decision to prosecute this war, there's no explaining 0:07:48.630 --> 0:07:51.890 this more than had already been done. You know, that, hey, okay, 0:07:51.930 --> 0:07:55.970 we hope that the higher gas prices and the spike 0:07:56.010 --> 0:07:58.630 in inflation, we hope it's worth it because we're safer. 0:07:59.510 --> 0:08:02.390 Middle East is safer. whole world is safer because iran 0:08:02.430 --> 0:08:05.070 is not a nuclear power that's why we did that 0:08:05.770 --> 0:08:07.830 so we hope you're we hope this is worth it 0:08:07.850 --> 0:08:11.010 to you this is a short-term thing for an enormously 0:08:11.050 --> 0:08:14.590 long-term benefit so we hope you're good with that well 0:08:15.050 --> 0:08:18.890 uh they weren't to say the least people were not 0:08:19.420 --> 0:08:22.100 and you can call them short-sighted myopic and you know 0:08:22.140 --> 0:08:27.910 just or you can call them human It's 450 gas, man. 0:08:28.510 --> 0:08:33.810 It's a bear. And people vote with their pocketbooks. And boy, 0:08:33.850 --> 0:08:35.150 did they. Boy, did they. 0:08:35.350 --> 0:08:36.150 In droves. 0:08:37.220 --> 0:08:40.440 And here in Texas and in many other states, as 0:08:40.480 --> 0:08:43.079 long as all those people were flooding in to deliver 0:08:43.120 --> 0:08:46.820 this national message, kind of a global message, really, as 0:08:46.860 --> 0:08:49.719 long as they were in there, they said, oh, might 0:08:49.740 --> 0:08:51.910 as well take out all the other Republicans on the 0:08:51.929 --> 0:08:54.410 ballot as well. That's how Darlene loses, other than being 0:08:54.450 --> 0:09:00.950 a terrible candidate. That's how Governor Abbott, Lieutenant Governor Patrick, 0:09:01.770 --> 0:09:04.630 the entire Texas power structure. Now, we just still have 0:09:04.670 --> 0:09:09.469 a Republican Senate in Austin, thank God, as a backstop 0:09:09.510 --> 0:09:13.340 against all the bad ideas coming our way. And nationally, 0:09:13.420 --> 0:09:16.740 President Trump will still be there, President Vito, as a 0:09:16.780 --> 0:09:20.680 backstop against anything terrible that the Democrat Congress will throw 0:09:20.700 --> 0:09:25.150 his way. So those are the silver linings. That's how 0:09:25.210 --> 0:09:27.870 it happened as I see it. I mean, some things 0:09:27.910 --> 0:09:30.470 are kind of complicated and there are some complexities here. 0:09:31.190 --> 0:09:34.910 Other things are really pretty simple. People voted their pocketbooks 0:09:35.670 --> 0:09:39.160 and expensive gas did it. Expensive everything did it. That 0:09:39.200 --> 0:09:42.200 means the war did it. Boy, that J.D. Vance missive 0:09:42.240 --> 0:09:45.819 that he fired off, was it disloyal? I don't really 0:09:45.880 --> 0:09:51.540 think so. It was awkward. Next cabinet meeting is going 0:09:51.559 --> 0:09:54.520 to be interesting. the next private meeting in the Oval Office, 0:09:56.140 --> 0:10:00.319 President Trump himself admitted that the war, you know, took 0:10:00.380 --> 0:10:04.080 us down. But he still had an asterisk attached to 0:10:04.140 --> 0:10:06.609 it that said, you know, it was worth it. I understand, 0:10:06.620 --> 0:10:07.910 but it was worth it. I'm going to show you 0:10:07.929 --> 0:10:11.550 it was worth it. Seemed like J.D., it's not like 0:10:11.590 --> 0:10:14.750 he said it was not worth it, but he said, 0:10:14.770 --> 0:10:18.089 you know, I wonder about J.D. 's fidelity to the 0:10:18.170 --> 0:10:21.920 war cause. 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Bush 41, he's Reagan's vice president, but 0:13:36.980 --> 0:13:38.360 he wants to get out there and be his own 0:13:38.400 --> 0:13:42.620 man and run in 1988, which he did successfully. Al Gore, 0:13:42.640 --> 0:13:45.809 you know, is his vice president and gets out and runs. 0:13:45.830 --> 0:13:48.230 That did not work out so well, thank God. But 0:13:48.270 --> 0:13:50.390 if you are the sitting vice president, your job is 0:13:50.429 --> 0:13:53.810 to be loyal and to be walking in step, one presumes. 0:13:54.350 --> 0:13:57.179 with the actual president whom you serve. But if you're 0:13:57.240 --> 0:13:59.240 trying to get out there and you have every right 0:13:59.640 --> 0:14:01.840 to get out there and say, look, when I'm president, 0:14:01.960 --> 0:14:05.180 I might do things a little differently. Well, bless her heart, Kamala, 0:14:05.200 --> 0:14:08.819 I was in the process of forgetting she was ever born. But, 0:14:09.480 --> 0:14:11.620 you know, what are you going to do differently if 0:14:11.640 --> 0:14:14.179 you're a president? You get to do that up to 0:14:14.230 --> 0:14:16.949 a point, but it is a little bit limiting if 0:14:16.970 --> 0:14:19.330 you're a sitting vice president to get out there and say, hey, 0:14:19.410 --> 0:14:21.090 here are the many things I'm going to do differently 0:14:21.470 --> 0:14:23.180 than the guy who who I'm sitting here in the 0:14:23.200 --> 0:14:28.300 same White House serving with. So that'll be interesting. And J.D. 0:14:28.330 --> 0:14:31.190 will face that as an interesting challenge. Will we get 0:14:31.210 --> 0:14:34.870 a Rubio candidacy? I really hope so, because I just 0:14:34.950 --> 0:14:39.210 love Rubio. And then there's DeSantis. This is going to 0:14:39.230 --> 0:14:41.930 be cut number two, kids. Let's fire this up. Ron 0:14:41.970 --> 0:14:46.570 DeSantis has had a lot to say. He referred to 0:14:46.610 --> 0:14:55.800 Texas as a near extinction level event. it's, it's, it's 0:14:55.840 --> 0:15:01.560 a remarkable thing that Ron DeSantis ran, ran up into 0:15:01.600 --> 0:15:05.450 the Trump buzzsaw. He ran against Trump, which I don't 0:15:05.470 --> 0:15:07.510 want to say it wasn't smart, but it didn't work 0:15:07.610 --> 0:15:10.930 out well, but because nobody had any, anything against DeSantis, 0:15:10.950 --> 0:15:13.790 but he ran against Trump and that looked, it just, 0:15:14.870 --> 0:15:17.130 it was like bad etiquette in a weird way. And 0:15:17.150 --> 0:15:19.750 it'd be MAGA etiquette book. Thou shalt not run against 0:15:19.770 --> 0:15:23.050 Trump like ever. And so a lot of there might 0:15:23.070 --> 0:15:25.350 be still some people who have some healthy gripes about that. 0:15:25.430 --> 0:15:27.610 I'll say, you know, I don't think there are many. 0:15:29.250 --> 0:15:31.350 But now I think there's going to be an appetite 0:15:31.410 --> 0:15:35.500 maybe for DeSantis. From some folks who want an America 0:15:35.540 --> 0:15:38.800 first leader that has a kind of a MAGA flavor 0:15:38.900 --> 0:15:42.980 to it, but is different in certain ways, maybe stylistically, 0:15:43.040 --> 0:15:44.300 maybe less populism. 0:15:44.320 --> 0:15:44.400 Yeah. 0:15:47.060 --> 0:15:51.600 Maybe less Israel hesitancy. I mean, Vance will bring some 0:15:51.640 --> 0:15:56.300 Israel hesitancy. DeSantis may bring more of a Trump-style Israel 0:15:56.340 --> 0:15:59.830 support than Vance would. So let's listen to Brother DeSantis 0:15:59.870 --> 0:16:02.210 here for a minute here. And this is it's easy 0:16:02.250 --> 0:16:04.450 to do and it's easy to kick people when they're down. 0:16:04.510 --> 0:16:06.109 What was the problem with this candidate? What was the 0:16:06.130 --> 0:16:08.930 problem with that candidate? I believe this is Ron talking 0:16:08.950 --> 0:16:11.510 about Ohio. Lord knows he talked about Texas enough and 0:16:11.530 --> 0:16:13.450 he was right. Let's see if we think he's right 0:16:13.490 --> 0:16:16.990 talking about Ohio, the whole Vivek thing, that ad that 0:16:17.090 --> 0:16:19.290 Vivek ran. I didn't have that much of a problem 0:16:19.310 --> 0:16:21.830 with it. It made me cringe a little bit. Amy 0:16:21.970 --> 0:16:25.690 Acton's weird mother talking about how weird Amy is, his 0:16:25.790 --> 0:16:29.290 bad blood in the family. Do you air that dirty laundry? 0:16:29.720 --> 0:16:34.360 But here might be the 48th president of the United States, 0:16:34.440 --> 0:16:35.020 Ron DeSantis. 0:16:36.260 --> 0:16:37.350 Ohio governor. 0:16:37.750 --> 0:16:41.170 I mean, how bad did did they beat Vivek. 0:16:40.650 --> 0:16:41.290 Like a drum? 0:16:41.330 --> 0:16:44.190 Now, part of that was Vivek, quite frankly. I don't 0:16:44.230 --> 0:16:46.790 know why they would have pushed him to be the 0:16:46.850 --> 0:16:52.630 candidate there. Oh, my mom's from Youngstown. Ohio is a 0:16:52.770 --> 0:16:57.830 working class state. Very blue collar. You know, Vivek, he's 0:16:57.930 --> 0:17:01.210 like a tech guy. He did this Alzheimer's and he 0:17:01.250 --> 0:17:04.270 wants to bring in people, foreign worker on visas. That 0:17:04.330 --> 0:17:06.550 is not the type of person that's going to sell. 0:17:06.570 --> 0:17:08.859 And I know he shot himself in the foot. I 0:17:08.910 --> 0:17:10.740 know he did a lot of other stuff to make 0:17:10.780 --> 0:17:13.480 it a real landslide against him. But even with that, 0:17:13.880 --> 0:17:15.939 it's like, you know, you've got to meet the voters 0:17:16.000 --> 0:17:18.240 where they are on some of this stuff. I think 0:17:18.260 --> 0:17:20.600 we would have done better in Ohio had we had 0:17:20.619 --> 0:17:24.350 a candidate that was more representative or more in tune 0:17:24.869 --> 0:17:28.129 with the interests of kind of these blue collar people 0:17:28.170 --> 0:17:30.790 that make the backbone of Ohio. But they got blown 0:17:30.869 --> 0:17:34.680 out there. And so the shift in Florida was about 0:17:34.820 --> 0:17:35.520 half the shift. 0:17:39.260 --> 0:17:42.659 Yeah, it was. And there's a lot of comparison of 0:17:42.820 --> 0:17:46.109 a Florida. Ron is the he's the alpha. He's the 0:17:46.200 --> 0:17:49.590 alpha dog now, man. You know, Ohio is flip. Texas 0:17:49.670 --> 0:17:52.550 is flip. Here we are. Here we are in Florida. Still, still, 0:17:52.670 --> 0:17:54.870 still a red state. There was DeSantis hanging out there 0:17:54.910 --> 0:17:58.649 with Sage Steele. So does this automatically make him the 0:17:58.670 --> 0:17:59.860 nominee in twenty twenty eight? 0:18:00.000 --> 0:18:00.240 No. 0:18:00.260 --> 0:18:04.439 Although Mike thinks so. He's right. Don't mess with Nostradamus. 0:18:04.740 --> 0:18:08.720 Trust me. I thought the Nostradamus tire tracks over top 0:18:08.770 --> 0:18:10.470 of me when I said, Mike, I don't know about 0:18:10.510 --> 0:18:14.370 that prediction. Yeah. So but I am going to suggest 0:18:14.390 --> 0:18:16.530 that we let the game come to us, as I'm 0:18:16.550 --> 0:18:19.929 so fond of saying and see, you know, it's going 0:18:19.950 --> 0:18:25.320 to depend on twenty twenty eight. This is 2026 is 0:18:25.359 --> 0:18:27.100 going to wrap up. 2027 is going to be a 0:18:27.200 --> 0:18:30.000 fascinating year. You think we'll be doing it all together 0:18:30.400 --> 0:18:32.820 on our respective radio shows and here on M & 0:18:32.420 --> 0:18:36.860 M Extra. Thanks for hanging out with us. What will 0:18:36.900 --> 0:18:40.400 happen to the MAGA brand? What kind of job will 0:18:40.440 --> 0:18:45.119 President Trump do in? He's the fighter, right? He is 0:18:45.280 --> 0:18:48.320 eternally the fighter. Well, he's going to have some fighting 0:18:48.359 --> 0:18:52.300 to do now, isn't he? You think? Democrat House, Democrat Senate. 0:18:52.340 --> 0:18:55.380 We may get Trump at his very best, focused like 0:18:55.440 --> 0:18:57.560 a laser. I don't think he's going to be dicking 0:18:57.580 --> 0:19:00.040 around with the ballroom and the reflecting pool as much 0:19:00.080 --> 0:19:04.570 as he, sorry, I mean, I get really comfortable. It's 0:19:04.609 --> 0:19:10.770 like hanging out with me at the house. And again, 0:19:11.330 --> 0:19:13.869 he's not going to not become Trump anymore. We are 0:19:13.890 --> 0:19:15.950 going to get some reflecting pool. He's going to love 0:19:15.990 --> 0:19:17.970 on that ballroom. Of course he is. It's part of 0:19:18.070 --> 0:19:20.430 what he is. We're going to we're going to rename 0:19:20.470 --> 0:19:22.860 some more stuff, I'm sure, before he's done. But there 0:19:22.880 --> 0:19:25.320 might be something about having a Democrat House and a 0:19:25.340 --> 0:19:28.960 Democrat Senate that really gives him some laser focus that 0:19:29.040 --> 0:19:34.180 could be beneficial to the brand. I think I want 0:19:34.220 --> 0:19:37.200 Jim Jordan to be a House minority leader. It makes 0:19:37.240 --> 0:19:40.500 me sad to say House minority leader. I love Steve Scalise, 0:19:40.520 --> 0:19:42.139 but I think I want Jim Jordan in that post. 0:19:42.260 --> 0:19:44.810 You want some fighting? There's going to be some fighting. 0:19:44.830 --> 0:19:47.390 He's going to take that jacket off and appear without 0:19:47.410 --> 0:19:50.890 it on cable channels all the live long day. So 0:19:51.170 --> 0:19:57.460 it is always historically said that Republicans are better on 0:19:57.480 --> 0:19:59.800 the outside, that we're better when we're out of power 0:19:59.840 --> 0:20:02.580 than we are when we're in power. Well, here's our 0:20:02.619 --> 0:20:06.160 latest chance to prove that. So speaking of being in power, though, 0:20:06.940 --> 0:20:09.360 The list just grows. What could we have done? What 0:20:09.400 --> 0:20:11.300 should we have done? And I think my answer is nothing. 0:20:11.700 --> 0:20:13.270 The prices in the war were going to kill us 0:20:13.810 --> 0:20:17.369 no matter what. We might have could have passed the 0:20:17.510 --> 0:20:21.109 SAVE Act and still got beat. In fact, you know what? 0:20:21.130 --> 0:20:22.469 I think I'm going to go with that. It would 0:20:22.490 --> 0:20:24.310 have been closer because there would have been a lot 0:20:24.330 --> 0:20:27.230 more Republicans who said, yeah, we passed the SAVE Act. Yeah. 0:20:27.510 --> 0:20:28.930 But then there would have been a bunch of people 0:20:28.950 --> 0:20:38.080 going 450 gas. Screw you. Bam. So. Promises. Mike's talked 0:20:38.100 --> 0:20:40.080 a lot about promises on his show, and I have too. 0:20:41.460 --> 0:20:48.700 What's perceived as a broken promise. President Trump said, we're 0:20:48.720 --> 0:20:51.180 going to have a good economy. I'm going to bring 0:20:51.220 --> 0:20:53.960 prices down. And he also said, we're not going to 0:20:53.980 --> 0:21:00.460 get messed around in a lot of foreign war entanglements. Whoops, 0:21:00.880 --> 0:21:06.080 times two. He has good reasons. I accept those reasons. 0:21:07.500 --> 0:21:10.119 But still, at a very surface level, and a lot 0:21:10.140 --> 0:21:12.010 of people look at things at a very surface level, 0:21:12.050 --> 0:21:14.909 especially when it's the surface of their kitchen table that 0:21:14.930 --> 0:21:17.129 they're sitting around trying to make ends meet. When gas 0:21:17.190 --> 0:21:22.570 is 450, have I mentioned that that's what killed us? No. 0:21:23.410 --> 0:21:25.970 it struck people as when politicians say they're going to 0:21:25.990 --> 0:21:28.990 do things, we are now outright part of Trump's power, 0:21:29.490 --> 0:21:31.930 part of his, you know, superpower, part of his appeal, 0:21:32.130 --> 0:21:34.869 continuing appeal, you know, whatever's left of it. And it's 0:21:34.950 --> 0:21:38.270 a lot, it's a lot, it's a lot. Is that he, 0:21:38.350 --> 0:21:39.800 there were things he said he was going to do 0:21:39.950 --> 0:21:43.800 and he did them. We go into shock when people 0:21:43.840 --> 0:21:46.060 do that. What he promised it and actually did it, dude. 0:21:47.920 --> 0:21:53.609 But with this chapter, it just looks like another, Another 0:21:53.750 --> 0:21:55.689 politician saying he was going to do something and then 0:21:55.730 --> 0:21:58.560 not doing it. And that's unfair. What did your dad 0:21:58.580 --> 0:22:01.979 always tell you? Life's unfair. So there we are. So 0:22:02.000 --> 0:22:04.530 there we are. And there's still a lot of turf 0:22:04.720 --> 0:22:08.609 left to pound in the remaining two years of this 0:22:08.650 --> 0:22:12.320 Trump presidency. And you go about pounding the turf of 0:22:12.359 --> 0:22:14.859 your day through the holidays. Here we go. Holidays are 0:22:14.980 --> 0:22:18.080 among us. And relief factor is going to leave you 0:22:18.100 --> 0:22:21.090 more holiday ready. How? Well, because it's a busy time. 0:22:21.130 --> 0:22:23.190 Mike has talked about his back issues. I talked about 0:22:23.230 --> 0:22:26.630 my shoulder issues. You sound like a bunch of geriatrics. 0:22:26.710 --> 0:22:29.109 I think I got something going in my knee, Herman. 0:22:29.780 --> 0:22:33.140 But you try to live a functional life. You try 0:22:33.160 --> 0:22:34.679 to get out and do things, and it's harder when 0:22:34.700 --> 0:22:36.660 you've got aches and pains and things that might keep 0:22:36.700 --> 0:22:38.200 you on the couch or keep you from getting out there. 0:22:38.400 --> 0:22:40.260 And I don't just mean the necessary things of life, 0:22:40.280 --> 0:22:43.020 the shopping and errands and fixing up the house and 0:22:43.040 --> 0:22:46.310 everything for visiting relatives. I mean the things that you enjoy, 0:22:46.750 --> 0:22:48.609 getting out there with your family, getting out there with 0:22:48.650 --> 0:22:51.070