1 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:08,480 Speaker 1: I'm Josh Hammer, and this is the Josh Hammer Show. 2 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:11,400 Speaker 1: Wrapp Bi pays off. Wilthy of Israel three sixty five 3 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 1: Action joins us from Israeli on the show to give 4 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: us an update on the ground over there in the 5 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: middle of a war zon. Meanwhile, Tucker Carlson, what is 6 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 1: there to say that has been said already? The dude 7 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 1: has jumped the shark yet again. At the same time, 8 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 1: lots happening on the domestic front. Tim Wallace getting dragged 9 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 1: before Congress to answer for some of the horrific Smali 10 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: fraud in his state of Minnesota and a must pass 11 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 1: piece of big tech legislation that you probably have missed. 12 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 1: But I'm going to tell you all about it all 13 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:39,879 Speaker 1: that much more on today's show. But for now we 14 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 1: begin with this. Well, we are now days, not quite 15 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 1: a full week, but we are now a number of 16 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: days into the joint American Israeli campaign against the Iranian regime, 17 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 1: and things are continuing to go staggeringly well from an 18 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 1: American perspective, there is very little doubt about that. To 19 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 1: be clear, there are now six American service members at 20 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 1: the time of this recording who have lost their lives 21 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 1: and we pray for their families, and we hope that 22 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:09,759 Speaker 1: their blood will be avenged, because it is horrific, horrific 23 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 1: and tragic stuff. Other than that, and that is a 24 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 1: very very very large and weighty caveat other than that. 25 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 1: From an American perspective, this has been an astonishing operational success, 26 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 1: the United States sinking sinking an enemy warship with a 27 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 1: submarine torpedo for the very first time since World War II, 28 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 1: literally since nineteen forty five, the United States largely sinking 29 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 1: the near entirety, frankly, of the Iranian Navy. Something like 30 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 1: fifteen to twenty Iranian naval vessels at this point are 31 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 1: now floating somewhere at the bottom of the Persian Gulf 32 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 1: for the Arabian Sea or the Indian Ocean or something 33 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 1: like that. The entire Iranian Air Force, as Pete Hegseth, 34 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 1: Secretary of War, joked earlier this week, was built in 35 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety six and it died in twenty twenty six. Meanwhile, 36 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: the Kurds, and the Kurds are very important ethic might 37 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 1: not already in the region. Those of you who have 38 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 1: a long of memory, you will recall that during the 39 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 1: anti ISIS campaign against the Sunni Islamist ice IS extremists 40 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 1: in Syria and Iraq. About a decade ago or ago 41 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 1: or so, we being the United States, relied fairly heavily 42 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 1: at times on the Kurds to help us there. Whether 43 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 1: or not the United States should go out of its 44 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: way to diplomatically to try to carve out actually an 45 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 1: independent homeland for the Kurds called Kurdistan, whether that should 46 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: be in Western Iran or parts of northern Iraq, eastern Syria. 47 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 1: There This has been ongoing football and American foreign policy 48 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:31,399 Speaker 1: for a long time. 49 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 2: Frankly I support it. 50 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 1: The main reason that we don't do it is because Turkey, 51 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 1: which is a NATO country. Unfortunately Turkey is dedaposed to 52 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 1: the Kurds in Kurdistan. 53 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 2: There. 54 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 1: In any event, the CIA is now currently providing some 55 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 1: small arms two Kurdish forces in Western Iran. That's the 56 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 1: same part of Western Iran that is on the border 57 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 1: with Iraq, and it is a softer underbelly of Iran 58 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 1: for the very simple reason that it is closest to 59 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:00,040 Speaker 1: the West, closer to Israel, closer to Europe, United. 60 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 2: State, etc. 61 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:02,519 Speaker 1: There And because of that it is on the front 62 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 1: lines of these aerial sortiers and these bombing campaigns when 63 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 1: the American Israeli jets are coming in from the west. 64 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:13,519 Speaker 1: So the idea here seems to be to carve out 65 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 1: this soft underbelly there in Western Iran, try to arm 66 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 1: some of the factions that are perhaps best equipped to 67 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 1: try to actually really rise up and try to topple 68 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 1: this most desponic and tyrannical of Isthmus regimes. 69 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 2: This is one of. 70 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 1: The challenging things here as we start to think forward 71 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: about it's too really to be clear to think about 72 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 1: what the endgame necessarily will look like in exact form there, 73 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 1: but it's not less very tempting to do so anyway. 74 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 1: And these are exactly kind of factions that are going 75 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: to have to get some arms in their hands. That 76 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 1: is going to be any chance of actually delivering a 77 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 1: death blow to this regime in full If you're going 78 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 1: to actually do or attempt a full scale regime change 79 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 1: via the air, it's very very difficult. It's not quite impossible, 80 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 1: it's very very difficult. That's kind of sort of what 81 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 1: the Bomba miistration with Samantha Power calling some of the shots, 82 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 1: tried to do to momark Goadaffi in Libyan twenty eleven. 83 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 1: That is a horrific example. Kadafi was killed, but Libya 84 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 1: is essentially fall into a state of Internet sign jihadis 85 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: civil war ever since them. The best example as to 86 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 1: how he sustained aerial campaign with the goal of kind 87 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 1: of maybe sort of regime change and it kind of 88 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:26,719 Speaker 1: worked out would be the nineteen nineties and the Balkans 89 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:28,039 Speaker 1: in Yugoslavia, the Bill. 90 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:29,159 Speaker 2: Clinton campaign there. 91 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 1: But that's not necessarily the best example either, because it 92 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: is a little more complicated in that. But look what 93 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 1: is actually going to happen here when it comes to 94 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: on the ground and ran, Well, the first thing to 95 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 1: emphasize here before we get there. We will get there 96 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 1: in just a minut or two. But the number one 97 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 1: thing to emphasize for now is just to keep up 98 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 1: the pressure for now. It is important just to sustain 99 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 1: the pressure on the regime. So at the time that 100 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:55,280 Speaker 1: we are talking here, the United States and Israel are 101 00:04:55,279 --> 00:05:00,840 Speaker 1: both continuing just to pound various regime targets inside is Meanwhile, 102 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 1: on the other side of the equation, we'll check in 103 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:05,679 Speaker 1: with Rabbi Wiliki here fairly shortly, but Iran, their munitions, 104 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 1: their stockpile seems to be rapidly dwindling. I've heard from 105 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:11,280 Speaker 1: a lot of folks here in the US, here on 106 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 1: the home front, a lot of folks who are who 107 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 1: are who are expressing a lot of grave concerns about 108 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 1: the American about the American military stockpile. Are we running 109 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:21,600 Speaker 1: out of missiles? Are are we running out of that? 110 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 1: And you know, frankly, there is a word for this, folks, 111 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: and the word for that is pannikin. That's I'm pretty 112 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:29,840 Speaker 1: sure what we're calling it these days, is that if 113 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: you are overly panicking over situation, for what it's worth. 114 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:35,280 Speaker 1: Secretary of War Pete Hegseth and the Chairman of the 115 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 1: Joint Chiefs Dan raising Kine, didn't sound exactly worried about that, 116 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 1: did they. At their Joint Press con conference earlier this week, 117 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 1: they talked about how we have more than enough, more 118 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: than enough munitions to outlast the Irani regime. The number 119 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:51,599 Speaker 1: of cyrons that are happening in Israel and the UAE, 120 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 1: some of the other allied countries in the region, number 121 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: of missiles that are coming in seems to be drastically diminishing, 122 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 1: with one pretty large caveat. 123 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:00,080 Speaker 2: By the way, it actually does appear. 124 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 1: That an Iranian drone hit Azerbaijan, which is an ally 125 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 1: of Israel, An ally country the United States as well, 126 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: which sits on the northern border of Iran, and ozbra 127 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:15,119 Speaker 1: Jehan is now just the latest country, another Muslim majority country, 128 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:17,479 Speaker 1: by the way, another Muslim country that Iran has hit. 129 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 1: So at this point, if if you're a Muslim country 130 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 1: and you have not been hit by Iran, you're probably thinking, bro, 131 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 1: what do I have to. 132 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 2: Do to get hit? 133 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 1: I mean, why am I not in your crosshairs? Why 134 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 1: am I not getting fired upon by you? They've hit 135 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 1: essentially everyone else in the region, which frankly is just 136 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 1: astonished him. By the way, NATO also shooting down an 137 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 1: Iranian blissed missile that was headed towards a US base 138 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 1: in Turkey, which again is a NATO quote unquote ally 139 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: the rest of type. Berdawan, who is the strong man 140 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 1: there in Turkey, is about as friendly to the Irani 141 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 1: regime as anyone else in the region. So for the matter, 142 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 1: I guess it is Katar and they've been hit too, 143 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:54,479 Speaker 1: so Iran clearly doesn't really care a whole lot about that. 144 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:56,840 Speaker 1: Back to the munitions just for a second, and then 145 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: we'll talk about what victory and endgame might actually look 146 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:02,279 Speaker 1: like here for President Trump and the American national interests. 147 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 1: One thing on themmissions yere again, I keep on hearing 148 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: from some friends, very dubbish friends there, say, oh, we're 149 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 1: gonna run ammunitions. 150 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 2: There. 151 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: There's this notion that is hardwired into some people's brain 152 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 1: that America is forced to use some of these extraordinarily 153 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: expensive missiles and missile interceptors to basically catch these really 154 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: crappy twenty thirty thousand dollars Iranian drones. Some of these 155 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: missile interceptors can cost upwards of five million dollars a 156 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: Patriot system, not cheap at all. It's worth noting here 157 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 1: that we actually gained a lot here from the Russia 158 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 1: Ukraine War. So Iran actually supplied the Russian regime of 159 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 1: Lampudin with some of their Shahid level drones, and some 160 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 1: of those drones we actually they fell in Ukraine. The 161 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 1: Ukrainians shared them with us, and we actually were able 162 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: to reverse engineer and apparently now what I heard from 163 00:07:57,080 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 1: a fairly high level military official actually earlier to was 164 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 1: that increasingly on the ground, and I suppose over the 165 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 1: seas right now in the Middle East, we're not necessarily 166 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 1: just using these five million dollar Patriot missile system platforms 167 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 1: to intercept these crap Iranian drones were also just using 168 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 1: these thirty thousand dollars Lucas strones, which we essentially reverse 169 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: engineered from the Iranians. So that is a remarkable development 170 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: there and really all to militate against concerns about dwindling 171 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 1: minissions there. So for now, just keep up the pressure 172 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: that is first and foremost, but we do have to 173 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 1: begin to talk about what a possible end game looks like, 174 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 1: the arming of the Kurds. Notwithstanding, there are very few 175 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: non regime people in Iran. 176 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 2: Who actually have access to weapons. 177 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 1: This has been one of the problems all on this, 178 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 1: one of the reasons that there were tens and tens 179 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 1: of thousand of them who were brutally murdered during the 180 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 1: anti regime uprisings late December into early January. There they 181 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 1: don't actually have the weapons, and of course, very few 182 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 1: oppressed people in the history of mankind have access to weapons. 183 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 1: One of the many reasons that I am plush a 184 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 1: staunch sect Amendment proponent, because it it is here or 185 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 1: there and everywhere one of the best guarranteurs against tyranny. 186 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 1: It really is the ultimate reason why we have the 187 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 1: Second Amendment in the US Constitution. So there is a 188 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 1: dearth of accessibility to small arms among the Iranian people there, 189 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: and in addition to the Kurds in Western Iran. At 190 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 1: some point you're probably gonna have to get a little 191 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: more hands on in trying to get some more of 192 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 1: these small arms into the hands of some of the 193 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 1: anti regime factions there. But overall, and here is the 194 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:30,680 Speaker 1: key points. Overall, my assessment, and what I believe to 195 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 1: be the Trump mistrations assessment, is that victory in Iran 196 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 1: will be achieved by a neutralized threat. I do not 197 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 1: believe that from the American perspective here, that the US 198 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 1: national interest is going to define victory as solely quote 199 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 1: unquote regime change. If there is going to be a 200 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 1: quote unquote regime change here, if the mole is the 201 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 1: IRGC Revolutionary Guard Corps, if they're all going to go 202 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 1: the way the Dodo bird, fine, fantastic, that is the 203 00:09:56,760 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 1: best possible result there. But I do not think this 204 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 1: is necessarily going to go on unless and until that happens. 205 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:07,839 Speaker 1: We had a pretty pretty hawkish guy in Aron Mike 206 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 1: Duran of Hudson Institutes on the show earlier this week, 207 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:13,719 Speaker 1: and Mike Duran actually very soberly predicted that a year 208 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 1: from now there will be some less radical IRGC folks 209 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 1: who are actually still calling the shots inside of RON. 210 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: So I don't believe that the US is going to 211 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 1: define victory as solely being the complete overthrow of all 212 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 1: the moles in the urgency. The victory will be defined 213 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:31,559 Speaker 1: as the neutralization of the threat. The most radical regime 214 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 1: in the planet cannot have access to nuclear weapons, they 215 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 1: cannot be making ballistic missiles, they cannot be making ICVM 216 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 1: intercontinental ballistic missiles. And yes, if God forbid, the regime 217 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:45,319 Speaker 1: does survive, if there still is an IERGYC, if there 218 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 1: are still molos, if that basic structure is in place there, 219 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 1: they should be severely diminished, severely defined, severely neutered, and 220 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 1: deeply deeply sobered and chastened. And what I mean by 221 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 1: that is that they will have to have soberly looked 222 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 1: to the fact that this joint American is really operation 223 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 1: took them out or came extremely close taking them out, 224 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 1: and they better be willing to deal with us. They 225 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 1: better be willing to actually do something remotely approximating make peace. 226 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 1: So how exactly Trump personally and how the administration defines 227 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 1: the neutralization of the threat is up to them, and 228 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:27,200 Speaker 1: really sold. 229 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 2: The up to them. 230 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 1: But recall, this is a regime that was founded, literally 231 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 1: founded upon anti American radicalism. The four hundred and forty 232 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 1: day hostage crisis at the USMC in Tehran was the 233 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:40,439 Speaker 1: founding act of the revolutionaries there in Tehran in nineteen 234 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 1: seventy nine. They've been trying to kill us. They've been 235 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 1: trying to kill Donald Trump and others for years, indeed 236 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:48,680 Speaker 1: for decades. As Sentcom tweeted on Sunday, they have killed 237 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 1: over one thousand Americans over the forty seven year sordid 238 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 1: history of this regime. Unless until that threat is neutralized, 239 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 1: the operation will continue. That doesn't necessarily mean regime change, 240 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 1: God willing. At this point, it will mean that, but 241 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 1: potentially potentially it could mean a little less in that. 242 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 2: Ultimately, of course, we shall sink. 243 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:14,679 Speaker 1: We're pleased to bring on a man who's become a 244 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 1: very good friend of mine, Rabbi Paysock Wilicky. Rabbi Wilicki 245 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:20,679 Speaker 1: is the exective director of Israel three sixty five Action 246 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 1: and a columnists for the Jerusalem Post, and he joins 247 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 1: us from Israel. Believe our first guest to join us 248 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:29,439 Speaker 1: from Israel since the war started. So, Rabbi Willicky, thank 249 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:31,959 Speaker 1: you for joining the program. First and foremost, we hope 250 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 1: that you and your loved ones and family are all safe. 251 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 1: It's been a very trying week. Put a mile the while. 252 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 1: We go ahead, actually and start right there. Why don't 253 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 1: you just give us some of your more personal experience 254 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:43,839 Speaker 1: since the war started. I was there, Rabbi, as you 255 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 1: may recall, I was there last June actually when the 256 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 1: twelve day war with the Ron started. This particular conflict, frankly, 257 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 1: seems to be substantially more intense than the war last June. 258 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 1: So tell us about your experience before we get into 259 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 1: anything else. 260 00:12:57,240 --> 00:12:59,680 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's far more intense. Look at the top 261 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 3: of the list. In terms of my personal experience, the 262 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 3: only really mass casualty event, which was a direct hit 263 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 3: actually on a bomb shelter which was also serving as 264 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 3: a synagogue in Bait Shemesh happened about a ten to 265 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 3: fifteen minute walk from my house. I was actually in 266 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 3: a safe room in a bomb shelter at the time 267 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 3: with my family, with my wife and a couple of 268 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 3: my kids, and we heard the impact. And my daughter 269 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 3: is friendly with the son of one of the people 270 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:29,079 Speaker 3: who was killed. So it actually touches close to home 271 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 3: in every sense of the word. And so there's been 272 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 3: a bit of a sense of mourning in the city 273 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 3: of bait Schemish. At the same time, there is a 274 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 3: sense of I wouldn't call it happiness, but a contentment 275 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:45,080 Speaker 3: that finally, after all these decades, the Iranian threat is 276 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 3: being dealt with. 277 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 1: So let's pick up on that, because you are, among 278 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:52,079 Speaker 1: other things, you're you're prolific talker, writer, speaker, if we 279 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 1: can guess on any number of conservative television shows and 280 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 1: podcasts there. But you're also a rabbi, and I want 281 00:13:57,400 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 1: to just happen too that a little bit as well, 282 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 1: because I think we really what you're getting into here 283 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 1: is this spirit of the Jewish people. As we would 284 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 1: say in Hebrew, I'm Israel hired, the children of Israel, 285 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 1: the people of Israel live. Because this happened just a short. 286 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 2: Walk from you. 287 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 1: I'm sure you personally know some of the individuals who 288 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 1: were either killed or the families who were affected and 289 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 1: so forth there. And yet if I had to guess 290 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 1: not being there, if I had to guess the town 291 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 1: where you live, Rabbi, is probably not necessarily overly morning, because, 292 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 1: as you said, the children of Israel to talk to 293 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 1: us more about the fighting spirit of the community, of 294 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 1: the nation of Israel, and how perhaps this war, more 295 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 1: than any other war, really probably eventually had to happen. 296 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 3: Well, Josh, thank you so much for asking that question. 297 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 3: The Jewish people have a historical memory that is different 298 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 3: from most other people. We have a very deep sense 299 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 3: of being part of this large story, this sweep of 300 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 3: history that goes all the way back, and this goes 301 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 3: and this is not just people who think a lot 302 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 3: about theology or history, but this goes down to every 303 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 3: school child. The way we're raised is to think about 304 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 3: the exodus from Egypt and the ultimate redemption and everything 305 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 3: in between and see ourselves as part of that. And 306 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 3: that gives us a great sense of strength, because the 307 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 3: perspective that we bring to every every situation includes all 308 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 3: of that and there and because of that the Israeli 309 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 3: people have a have a very strong sense of social 310 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 3: cohesion built around this sense that we are part of 311 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 3: this large, this monumental historical story in God's plan for 312 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 3: planet Earth and that and that we're serving that role. 313 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 3: So in the big picture, with all of the tragedies 314 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 3: that we experience along the way, there is this tremendous 315 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 3: strength and resilience with everything going on. In the happiness 316 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 3: index in the world, Israel still comes out one of 317 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 3: the leading countries even though we're under we're under attack, 318 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 3: and that speaks to the deep spiritual identity of the 319 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 3: Jewish people, the existential identity. 320 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 1: It seems to me that it also comes just from 321 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 1: a deep rooted sense of purpose, of purpose and meaning 322 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 1: which is which is a sentiment that is deeply lacking 323 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 1: in large swaths of Western civilization, say, but is certainly 324 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 1: not lacking in the State of Israel and among the 325 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 1: nation of visual more generally. The rabbit payeswok Wiggie can 326 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 1: be followed on x at Rabbi pw Rabbi. Look, let's 327 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 1: talk a little bit about the war itself. Iran's missile 328 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 1: stockpile of diminishis seem to be drastically dwindling in real time, 329 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken. Actually, I think Israel's major international airport, 330 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 1: Bengorian Airport, it's not open for commercial travel, but I 331 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 1: think there was some incoming traffic that was printed in 332 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 1: IDF Home Command start and to loosen some restrictions there. 333 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 1: So the sense that I get here from United States 334 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 1: is that the situation is rapidly improving there on the 335 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 1: ground with Israel, I want to kind of look. 336 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 2: A little head towards victory. 337 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 1: Early in the show, we were talking a little bit 338 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 1: about how the United States, how President Trump likely would 339 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 1: define victory. I'm curious from the Israeli perspective, what you 340 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 1: think of as victory in this particular conflict. How do 341 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 1: you think primary nets in Yahoo and the IDF, the 342 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 1: state of Israel, What is victory and how will we 343 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 1: know from the the Israeli perspective when victory is achieved. 344 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:05,879 Speaker 3: Wow, that's a fantastic question because there are different levels 345 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 3: to answering that. Because when we talk about removing threats, 346 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 3: if you ask anyone in the Israeli brass and the 347 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:15,400 Speaker 3: way they're talking in media, the goal is to remove 348 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:18,360 Speaker 3: the threat, But what is removing the threat really mean 349 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:21,880 Speaker 3: if the Islamic regime remains in power in any way 350 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 3: at all, and I wrote about this before the war, 351 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 3: if this Muller regime is in power when all is 352 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 3: said and done, even if they're very weak, as long 353 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:32,359 Speaker 3: as they can keep their head down and wait until 354 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 3: the end of the Trump administration, they know that whatever 355 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:36,879 Speaker 3: comes next will be more favorable. And as long as 356 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 3: they can sell their oil to the Chinese Communist Party, 357 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 3: they will have cash flow. And they are one hundred 358 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 3: percent ideologically committed to the destruction of the state of Israel. 359 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:48,359 Speaker 3: That's why since the Twelve Day War they entered this 360 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:51,919 Speaker 3: massive economic crisis that almost brought down their regime from protests, 361 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 3: and yet they were still spending all the billions of 362 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 3: dollars they made on oil, on weapons, on ballistic missiles, 363 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:02,160 Speaker 3: on the nuclear program, their proxies. They are wholly committed. 364 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 3: So in that sense, victory in the long term sense, 365 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 3: meaning where it's final, is only really. 366 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:08,640 Speaker 4: If the regime falls. 367 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 3: But if the regime somehow doesn't fall because the Iranian 368 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 3: people themselves don't rise up and do it, because ultimately 369 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 3: they're the only ones who can bring it down. You 370 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 3: can't bomb the regime out of existence. The Iranian people 371 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 3: have to step up at some point. But if they 372 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 3: don't bring down the regime, if the missile stockpile is 373 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 3: depleted to the point that it basically doesn't exist, and 374 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 3: if Israel holds air superiority, this is a critical point. 375 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:37,120 Speaker 3: Israel has achieved air superiority with the Americans now, just 376 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 3: like we did in the Twelve Day War, but Israel 377 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:43,120 Speaker 3: allowed that air superiority to slip in the months in between. 378 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 3: If Israel retains air dominance over Iran long term, as 379 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 3: the Defense Minister says they plan to do, then even 380 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 3: if the regime stays in power, they're not really going 381 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 3: to be able to do much to Israel. Victory means 382 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:58,879 Speaker 3: there's no more threat. So that's the real answer to 383 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 3: your question. What where do we have to get to 384 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 3: where there's no more threat? Depends if you mean short 385 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 3: term or long term. 386 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 2: No fair enough. 387 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:08,119 Speaker 1: And to be to be clear, that's actually exactly how 388 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 1: I defined the victory earlier in the show as well. 389 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 1: Is the removal of the threat. And again we can 390 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 1: kind of debate exactly what that means, but I view 391 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 1: that as an American essentially the exact same way. I mean, 392 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 1: this is a regime, Rabbi, as you know that it 393 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:23,879 Speaker 1: is not just deadly opposed to Israel, it was literally predicated. 394 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 1: It was founded upon anti American ideology. The very first 395 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:28,880 Speaker 1: act of the revolutionaries was to go to the US 396 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:31,400 Speaker 1: embassy in Tehran for the fourge to foury day hots crisis. 397 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 1: The whole regime has been fanatically anti American. There, they 398 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 1: personally tried to assassinate Donald Trump. So I think the President. 399 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 1: I can't speak for the President, obviously, but my guess 400 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 1: would be that President Trump Secretary hexapt they would essentially 401 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:45,919 Speaker 1: define victory basically the exact same way that you just 402 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 1: find there, which is wonderful and frankly, I think augurs 403 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:51,639 Speaker 1: quite nicely for the continued success of this joined by 404 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 1: National American Israel canpaig. Folks, we've been chating with Rabbit 405 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 1: Peslock willically Executive Director of Israel through sixy five action 406 00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 1: follow him on x at Rabbi PW bye bye before 407 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 1: I let you go, which is called minutes left. I 408 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 1: guess I would be remiss if I didn't go back 409 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:06,640 Speaker 1: to tap into your rabbinical expertise. 410 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 2: Here. 411 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 1: I do find this just overwhelmingly symbolic that all of 412 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 1: this is transpiring on the Jewish calendar right around the 413 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:14,359 Speaker 1: time of the Holiday of Purim. I spoke about on 414 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 1: the show a little bit earlier this week. Our daughter's 415 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:19,119 Speaker 1: name is Esther, who is the heroine of the holiday 416 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 1: of Poorum. It's all about the Book of Esther. There 417 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 1: one of my favorite holidays in the calendar, a story 418 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 1: of Jewish salvation back in each and Persia two and 419 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 1: a half millennia ago. Talk to just a little bit 420 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 1: more here in the final minute or so that we 421 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 1: have here together. It talks a little bit more about 422 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:33,119 Speaker 1: the symbolic timing of this. There's really no such thing 423 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 1: rab by as coincidences, are there? 424 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 3: Well, that's what Purim is all about. 425 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:36,919 Speaker 4: You know. 426 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 3: One of the strangest things about Purim is the name 427 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:42,679 Speaker 3: of the festival, because the word Purim means lots, and 428 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 3: it says in the Book of Esther right at the 429 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:47,879 Speaker 3: end that the festival is named after the fact that 430 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 3: the way that Hayman chose the date for his decree, 431 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 3: his genocidal decree to wipe out the Jews, was by 432 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 3: drawing lots, and therefore we named the whole festival after that. Now, 433 00:20:57,560 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 3: if he had chosen the name of the festival some 434 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:01,919 Speaker 3: other way, maybe because he chose his birthday or his 435 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 3: wife's birthday, we recall it that. I mean, why are 436 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 3: we calling it after the lots that he drew? But 437 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 3: the point really is it's actually a kind of sarcastic 438 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 3: dig at at the anti Semites at Haman, which is 439 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 3: that people who believe that God is not in charge, 440 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 3: believe that everything is chance. And when we look at 441 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 3: the world, if we were in the exodus from Egypt, 442 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 3: if there's the splitting of the sea, in the ten plagues, 443 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 3: it's undeniable that it's God. But when there's a lot 444 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 3: of things that look like coincidences, and you know, serendipitous 445 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 3: occurrences that just happened to take place at the right time, 446 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:39,399 Speaker 3: in the right place, then we have to choose to 447 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:41,680 Speaker 3: see the hand of God. And some people will just 448 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 3: say it's a bunch of coincidences. Other people will say, no, 449 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 3: that's the hand of God. So we name the festival 450 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:51,160 Speaker 3: after chance because Hayman believed in chance. And that's really 451 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 3: the point of this. Everyone in Israel is very cognizant 452 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 3: of this coincidence. Of Purim and the war against a 453 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:03,120 Speaker 3: Persian genocidal regime. It's literally the same things as twenty 454 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:04,120 Speaker 3: five hundred years ago. 455 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 2: Now you're all aware of you really can't make it up, 456 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:07,680 Speaker 2: Rabi and force you. We're out of time. But Rabbi 457 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:08,200 Speaker 2: pays off body. 458 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 1: Folks follow fall him my next at Rabbi pw A 459 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 1: wonderful follow Rabbi, God bless you and stay safe. Please, 460 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 1: thank you, God bless We appreciate folks a very short 461 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:16,400 Speaker 1: commercial break. 462 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:17,680 Speaker 2: Stay with us so much more on the other. 463 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:25,639 Speaker 1: Side, welcome back, so so much more to discuss. 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So 491 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 1: Sale News Channel is actually continuing to grow. It's a 492 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:57,959 Speaker 1: super excited news and starting this week. SNC is available 493 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:01,360 Speaker 1: now right now at Amazon on Prime Video. You can 494 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 1: find Sale News Channel under News via the live TV 495 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 1: option at Amazon Prime Video. For more ways to watch 496 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:11,919 Speaker 1: Sale News Channel, go to SNC dot tv and click 497 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 1: on ways to watch. Really proud of the expansion of 498 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:18,879 Speaker 1: the Salem News Channel. So just some brief final thoughts 499 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 1: on the conversation that we just had with Rabbi Pesak 500 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:25,160 Speaker 1: with Wiliki. The Book of Esther, which is this book 501 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 1: in the Hebrew Bible, in the Old Testament that at 502 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 1: the basis of the holiday that Jew celebrator early this 503 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 1: week of Porum, the story of salvation in ancient Persia 504 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:37,159 Speaker 1: from the annihilation that was planned by Hayman working in 505 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 1: concerts with the impressionable King Akuzverus. It is the only 506 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 1: book of the entire Hebrew Bible Oral Testaments where the 507 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:50,159 Speaker 1: word God does not appear. There is no reference to 508 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 1: God in the text. This is kind of what Rabbi 509 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:56,879 Speaker 1: Willicky was getting at there. You see, the ancient Persians 510 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 1: thought that there could be lots, there could be coincidences, 511 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 1: but no, there are no such thing as coincidences. God 512 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:10,920 Speaker 1: is everywhere. Even when you were in a depressed state 513 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 1: personally or a national you're collectively depressed state, a state 514 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 1: of oppression, of repression, of tyranny, totalitarianism. God is always there. 515 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 1: God was there at the concentration camps. As difficult as 516 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:26,440 Speaker 1: it is to sometimes hear those words, God was there 517 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 1: at the gulags. God is always, always, always there. He 518 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:34,440 Speaker 1: knows things, of course that we don't know. But even 519 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 1: if you think he's not there, he ultimately really is there. 520 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:41,879 Speaker 1: And this, to me is one of the great messages 521 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:43,399 Speaker 1: of the Book of Aster. And one of the reasons 522 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:47,160 Speaker 1: that is such a timeless story is that even though 523 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 1: the word God does not appear, because He didn't appear 524 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 1: to be present for the Jews who are facing annihilation, 525 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 1: they are in ancient Persia. 526 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:57,400 Speaker 2: They thought that they were about to die, and they were. 527 00:25:57,760 --> 00:25:59,159 Speaker 2: They didn't see God in their lives. 528 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:03,639 Speaker 1: He's always there, and He acts in mysterious ways, in 529 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:07,160 Speaker 1: ways that you don't necessarily always see. 530 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 2: Well. 531 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:09,879 Speaker 1: One of the current ways that it might not always 532 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:13,360 Speaker 1: be obvious as to how exactly God has thought this through, 533 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,680 Speaker 1: whereas you and I have not, has been the continued 534 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 1: descent into just utter loanbag idiocy that. 535 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:23,440 Speaker 2: Is Tucker Carlson. 536 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 1: So last we talked about Tucker, he was doing this 537 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:32,400 Speaker 1: outrageous interview with the US Ambassador to Israel, Mia Cuckabee. 538 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 1: He jetted into the major airport there, literally to not 539 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 1: leave the airport completely fabricated, made up this story about 540 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 1: getting detained by the security there. 541 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 2: It was subsequently proven to be an absolute. 542 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 1: Why his questions were outrageous talking about DNA testing Israelis 543 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 1: to make sure they were the actual children of Abraham. 544 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 1: And I wrote an essay about that interview for front 545 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,359 Speaker 1: Page magazine, the online journal for the David Horrowitz Freme Center. 546 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 1: We're I'm proud to be a Shulman Fellow these days, 547 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:04,680 Speaker 1: And I asked, what is anthy to Tucker Carlson wants 548 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:08,119 Speaker 1: from the Jews? Like really, Like, like, bro, what do 549 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:11,479 Speaker 1: you want? What do you want from us? All you 550 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 1: do is rant about Jewish power and organize jewry. You're obsessed, 551 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:20,399 Speaker 1: pathologically obsessed. A lot of these people are obsessed. Frankly, 552 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 1: you know. I was on Piers Morgan's show yesterday. The 553 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 1: show is called Uncensored, and it was a four person 554 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 1: panel and among them was the utter, utter miscreants, this 555 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:38,440 Speaker 1: oath Chank Wiguer of the Young Turks, who I told 556 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 1: him on the show, I said, Shang, because Shank was 557 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 1: calling the Iatola comany courageous. He was calling courageous for 558 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 1: how he died in defiance. He was a good Shahid, 559 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 1: a good martyr. He died in defiance of the US 560 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:54,160 Speaker 1: and Israel, the big Satan, little Satan. And I told 561 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 1: Shang frankly, I said that you have the moral conscience 562 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:00,440 Speaker 1: of a cockroach in the iq of a tadpole. And 563 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,359 Speaker 1: I meant it, and changed respond by ranting about Israel lobby, 564 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 1: this Israel, this Israel that, and Pierre's Morgan, who is 565 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:10,119 Speaker 1: not exactly a beacon of moral clarity on these issues. 566 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:12,159 Speaker 1: Chime did and said, Shank, you know, of all my 567 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 1: guests the past few years, you no one else. You 568 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 1: use the I word Israel more than anyone else, any 569 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 1: other guests. And so it is with Tucker. So it 570 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 1: is with all these guys. They are obsessed. So after 571 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 1: the Tucker Mike Cockabee interview, I wrote this essay for 572 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:31,399 Speaker 1: Front Page magazine saying, or asking rather what exactly to 573 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,119 Speaker 1: Tug Carlson want from the Jews. And this was before 574 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 1: the holiday of porting the Book of Esther. So I said, well, 575 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,960 Speaker 1: actually the answer might be found in the Book of Esther, 576 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 1: and I said that Tuger Carlson, frankly these days looks 577 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 1: a lot like the villain like hey man who Rabbi 578 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 1: Willicky and I were just discussing a man who harbored 579 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 1: a seething hatred for the Jewish people and sought to 580 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 1: leverage his proximity to power to destroy them. And I 581 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 1: actually wrote in my essay I just I called like 582 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 1: I see it, folks, I said, for Carlson, I believe 583 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 1: that his own hatred includes an eagerness to incite anti 584 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 1: Semitic violence, maybe even outright pagrams, and maybe just maybe 585 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 1: even a full on King Ferdinand and Queen Isabella's style 586 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 1: edict of expulsion to kick the Jews out of America. 587 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 1: I really think that is not an exaggeration as to 588 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 1: what is actually going on here. I honest to God, 589 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 1: I've said that, I've said before. It's not the first 590 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 1: time'm saying this. I've said before. I think that is, 591 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 1: honest to God, what's happening. And in responds that some 592 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 1: folks said, Oh my God, Josh, what are you doing. 593 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 1: This is an overwrought comparison, This is hyperbolic. This loathsome 594 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 1: anti Semite in Texas by name of Joel Webbin wrote 595 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 1: this hilariously long substack post which I think got like 596 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 1: five reposts or whatever. No one actually read the darn thing, 597 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 1: basically calling me insane and drange for making this comparison. 598 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 1: And what does Tucker do well? 599 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 2: Last night? 600 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 1: Tucker goes on to rant against Habbad, which is the 601 00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 1: most peaceful, beloved Jewish outbreed organization probably in the world. 602 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 1: Habbad are the guys. We're just seeking to spread the 603 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 1: joy and the happiness of the Jewish religion. That's what 604 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 1: they're there for. They're the guys who are trying to 605 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 1: rap to fill in of folks in the airport, trying 606 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 1: just to spread the love and joy of the Sima, 607 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 1: we would say, the happiness of the Jewish religion, of 608 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 1: the Jewish way of life, of the of the Torah, 609 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 1: of the Bible, of all of it. And Tucker just 610 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 1: goes on this deranged rant talking about how Hubbad is 611 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 1: awful and they're trying to incite this messianic civil war 612 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 1: to try to get rid of al Axa Mosque, which 613 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 1: is the dome of the rock there in Jerusalem. They're 614 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 1: trying to to incite the rebuilding of a third temple. Well, 615 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 1: first of all, talker, I I got news for you. 616 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 1: Jews pray three times a day, every single day, four 617 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:01,240 Speaker 1: times on the Sabbath, on Shabbaan for the restoration of 618 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:04,720 Speaker 1: the Temple. The restoration of full Jewish sovereignty in the 619 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 1: Holy See of Jerusalem is a core thing that we 620 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 1: pray for. And if you have an issue with that, 621 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 1: you might just have an issue with Judaism, which obviously 622 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 1: is exactly what Tucker Carlson says. You know, at this point, 623 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 1: how many how many times does this does this guy 624 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 1: have to jump the shark? I have lost count and 625 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 1: this is now happening. Let's not forget after Donald Trump 626 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 1: apparently in his January eleventh being a Tucker of the 627 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 1: White House, apparently Trump said the Tucker, dude, cool it. 628 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 1: Find a way to tone down the anti ISRASO find 629 00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 1: a way to tone down the allegation of any soundism. 630 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 1: And your response is to tell Mike Kakabee to DNA 631 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 1: test a bunch of Jews in Israel and to accuse 632 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 1: the most beloved Jewish hourage organization of them all, Kabbad, 633 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 1: of trying to incite a holy war to do what 634 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 1: exactly to get rid of the Arabs or Muslims from Jerusalem. 635 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 1: This is six stuff. 636 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 2: It's absolutely six stuff. 637 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 5: I had. 638 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 1: There was a Klubod rabbi actually I won't name him, 639 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 1: out in the Western US who reached out to me 640 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 1: early this morning and said, Josh, he's literally putting Kabad 641 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 1: rabbis in our families or communities in danger. By the way, 642 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 1: one of the murder rabbis in Bondai Beach, Australia and 643 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 1: Sydney last December was a Kabad rabbi. It seems to 644 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 1: be the Tuck Carlson wants more dead Jews. I'm sorry 645 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 1: if that's too harsh to hear, but frankly, is just 646 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:31,720 Speaker 1: the case there. And at this point, what does he 647 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 1: have to do to earn the rebuke of those who 648 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 1: can and should rebuke him. Unbelievable stuff. Folks, Stay with us. 649 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 1: We'll be right back with more on the other side. 650 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 2: Welcome back. 651 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 1: So just some final thoughts on this whole conversation that 652 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 1: we've had thus far, So as some of these idiots 653 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 1: at home, whether they are on the far left like 654 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 1: a Chankwiger, like an Anakasparian of the whole young Turst 655 00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 1: crowd or whether they are on the quote unquote right, 656 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 1: people like Tucker Carlson, people like Megan Kelly. They're trying 657 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 1: to manufacture this notion that the Iran war is not 658 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 1: just of mixed popularity with American people, which I'll be 659 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 1: the very first to say that it absolutely is. The 660 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 1: silver lining there is. I don't think Donald TRM particularly 661 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 1: cares about the polling on this issue. I think he 662 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:19,960 Speaker 1: just genuinely feels that he is really doing. 663 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 2: The right thing. 664 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 1: But they're also trying to advance this narrative that this 665 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 1: is yet another Maga civil war again, the interventionist, the neocons, 666 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 1: by which they really just mean the Jews, right in 667 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 1: this case, they're saying the Jews are trying to tear 668 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 1: apart Maguy and try to tear apart the conservative and 669 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 1: Republican base in this midterm election year and in reality 670 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 1: time for a reality check. In reality, Republicans have never 671 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 1: been as unified around President Donald J. Trump as they 672 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,760 Speaker 1: are right now here. For instance, was our pal Harryenton 673 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:54,520 Speaker 1: over at CNN. 674 00:33:54,960 --> 00:34:00,600 Speaker 6: Republicans love Donald Trump more than any president's own party 675 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 6: supporters loved him at this particular point. Just take a 676 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 6: look here, okay, own party supporters, twenty first century president's 677 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,840 Speaker 6: own party approval about at this point the second term, 678 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:12,040 Speaker 6: Bush was at seventy seven percent. Obama was at seventy 679 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:12,480 Speaker 6: seven percent. 680 00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:14,960 Speaker 2: Look at this. Eighty six percent. 681 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:18,360 Speaker 6: Of Republicans approve of the job that Donald Trump is 682 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 6: doing at this point. That is higher than either Obama 683 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,120 Speaker 6: or Bush had within their own party at this point. 684 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:27,360 Speaker 6: Trump's magic touch has not seen the war off yet 685 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:29,239 Speaker 6: when it comes to the Republican base. 686 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,080 Speaker 2: And what kind of approval are we talking about here? 687 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,719 Speaker 6: Okay, so we're talking about overall approval here, how about 688 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 6: the strongly approved, the strongly approved. 689 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:37,920 Speaker 2: Not just like but love love. 690 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,800 Speaker 6: Okay, we're gonna look at these same presidents again, strong 691 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,439 Speaker 6: approval among your own parties base, which is he Here's 692 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,319 Speaker 6: Trump is the only one who gets the majority at 693 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:49,080 Speaker 6: this point in their presidency. Obama was at forty eight percent, 694 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,799 Speaker 6: Bush was at forty seven percent. You see here, Trump 695 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 6: at fifty three percent, not as high as overall approval rating, 696 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:57,400 Speaker 6: but still getting a majority of the Republican base. 697 00:34:57,800 --> 00:34:59,800 Speaker 1: You know, they call him teflon Dawn for a reason, 698 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:04,480 Speaker 1: because he seemingly can do no wrong when it comes 699 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,360 Speaker 1: to supporters Trump, Point's worth has a long history of 700 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 1: actually joking about this exact phenomenon. I think back to 701 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:13,400 Speaker 1: the twenty sixteen e Lession cycle when he famously joked 702 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:16,160 Speaker 1: about shooting someone in the middle of Fifth Avenue and 703 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 1: he wouldn't lose any support. He was being more than 704 00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 1: a little facetious tongue in chink. But there's a kernel 705 00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,880 Speaker 1: of truth there because a lot of these support of 706 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,560 Speaker 1: Trump is part of it is on the substance. That's 707 00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:28,239 Speaker 1: why I've been a supporter for a long time, is 708 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:29,880 Speaker 1: that I just like what he does when he is 709 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,359 Speaker 1: in office. But a lot of it is actually even 710 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 1: more than that. It is the fact that he has 711 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:37,880 Speaker 1: a really strong sense of humor, that he comes across 712 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:41,600 Speaker 1: as really relatable despite being a billionaire. Some of these 713 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,080 Speaker 1: unique political skills that you can't necessarily teach, that you 714 00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:47,640 Speaker 1: can't necessarily translate to any other setting or to any 715 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:54,399 Speaker 1: other individual. Now, the whole Epstein distraction hasn't apparently made 716 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,280 Speaker 1: a dent as you just saw there with Harrenton's graphics 717 00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:01,080 Speaker 1: when it comes to Republican support for President Trump, nor 718 00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:05,839 Speaker 1: has anything for that matter, nothing certainly not this. So 719 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:09,880 Speaker 1: this notion that the magabase is revolting over the Iran 720 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:14,000 Speaker 1: war is ludicris. In every polling crosstad that we have 721 00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:19,560 Speaker 1: seen thus far, self identified MAGA Republicans supports Operation Epic 722 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,360 Speaker 1: Fury and an even higher rate, potentially upwards of twenty 723 00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:28,640 Speaker 1: five to thirty points higher than non MAGA aka Norman Republicans. Okay, 724 00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:31,880 Speaker 1: just important stuff to bear in mind. But on the 725 00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,840 Speaker 1: one hands, you have Republicans, that is, that are largely 726 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,640 Speaker 1: unified right now, and now on the other hand, you 727 00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:40,800 Speaker 1: have Democrats that just continue to be deeply, deeply divided. 728 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:42,319 Speaker 1: So we talked a little bit about some of these 729 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:44,320 Speaker 1: primary results across the country. 730 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:45,000 Speaker 2: Earlier this week. 731 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:48,680 Speaker 1: There was this much watched Texas Senate Democratic primary where 732 00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,480 Speaker 1: you had jasmccrockett, who was beloved well, frankly just by 733 00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:54,319 Speaker 1: idiots and morons but also by the progressive grassroots brought 734 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:57,600 Speaker 1: the whole AOC squad contingents. She went up in flames 735 00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:00,560 Speaker 1: against this young, woke billy Graham acolytes, their calling him 736 00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:04,040 Speaker 1: this guy James tell Rico, this deeply unimpressive, very green, 737 00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:08,200 Speaker 1: inexperienced state rep. In Texas. Another reason that Democrats are 738 00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:12,400 Speaker 1: divided is because well they have a lot of scandals 739 00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,120 Speaker 1: and a lot of baggage, and no scandal is more 740 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:18,359 Speaker 1: visible right now than this fraud scandal that has been 741 00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:21,160 Speaker 1: going on well quite frankly for years, but at least 742 00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,719 Speaker 1: in the current news cycle. It's still dragging on now 743 00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,759 Speaker 1: for a handful of months. Over in the state of Minnesota, 744 00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,759 Speaker 1: Tim Walls, the govern Minnesota who has announced, lest you forget, 745 00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:33,440 Speaker 1: he announced he's actually not running for re election. So 746 00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,920 Speaker 1: this fraud scandal has actually destroyed his political career. He's 747 00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:39,040 Speaker 1: got nowhere to go. He totally bombed on the national 748 00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:41,959 Speaker 1: state as Kamala Harris's VP did awful and that VP 749 00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,359 Speaker 1: debate with Jade Vance. He's done so there and now 750 00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,840 Speaker 1: he's done so when it comes to the gubernatorial mansion 751 00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:49,239 Speaker 1: in the state of minnesot as well, Tim wall is 752 00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:53,440 Speaker 1: actually along with Keith Ellison, the horrific Attorney General of 753 00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:56,520 Speaker 1: the san Minnesota, they were called to testify subpoena before 754 00:37:56,640 --> 00:38:00,920 Speaker 1: the House Oversight Committee led by James Call of Kentucky. 755 00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:02,600 Speaker 1: Not every day that you actually get a sitting governor 756 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:04,640 Speaker 1: that actually goes in to testify before Congress, and there 757 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,960 Speaker 1: were some pretty explosive stuff. One of our favorites, the 758 00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:11,759 Speaker 1: young freshman Brandon Gill of Texas, recent guests here in 759 00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,160 Speaker 1: the Josh Hammer Show. Brandon Gill, I think he did 760 00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:17,640 Speaker 1: a pretty good job actually of exposing Tim Wallas. Brandon 761 00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:20,360 Speaker 1: Gill has been really really hard charging on the Smay 762 00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:21,759 Speaker 1: fraud stuff, and I think that he did a great 763 00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:23,640 Speaker 1: job here in this Q and A with Tim Wallas. 764 00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:25,080 Speaker 2: Go ahead and watch this, yep. 765 00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:28,680 Speaker 5: And would you agree that as governor, ultimately you're responsible 766 00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:30,960 Speaker 5: if tax dollars are defrauded? 767 00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:32,120 Speaker 4: Yes? I would agree. 768 00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:35,239 Speaker 5: Would you also agree that calling somebody racist is a 769 00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:36,920 Speaker 5: serious accusation. 770 00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,279 Speaker 4: If they are racist? I think I'm asking you. 771 00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:43,320 Speaker 5: If is that a serious accusation to make about somebody? 772 00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,640 Speaker 4: I think it's just an observation of reality. 773 00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:49,840 Speaker 5: All right, Well, let's go there. Is it racist for 774 00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:53,120 Speaker 5: a government official do identify fraud? 775 00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:55,960 Speaker 4: No? 776 00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:57,560 Speaker 5: No, is it islamophobic? 777 00:38:58,760 --> 00:38:59,920 Speaker 4: Do identify fraud? 778 00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:01,400 Speaker 5: To identify fraud? 779 00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:02,719 Speaker 4: I know, I don't believe it would be. 780 00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:06,319 Speaker 5: How can multiple whistleblowers have said that your administration told 781 00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:10,000 Speaker 5: them not to say anything about widespread fraud across multiple 782 00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:14,320 Speaker 5: agencies because doing so would be considered racist or islamophobic. 783 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:16,800 Speaker 4: I can't speak to it because it's not anything I 784 00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:17,360 Speaker 4: would say. 785 00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:21,680 Speaker 5: Well, that's what your administration has said and has told whistleblowers, 786 00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,480 Speaker 5: and as you just testified, the buck stops with you. 787 00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,960 Speaker 5: It's what you stated in your statement whenever you announced 788 00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:28,880 Speaker 5: you weren't running again. 789 00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:30,280 Speaker 2: So pretty brutal stuff. 790 00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:32,480 Speaker 1: Tim Wall's basally saying that he doesn't know what's happening 791 00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:34,600 Speaker 1: under his administration. By the way, there are plenty of 792 00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:37,640 Speaker 1: other lines of questions, including from Nancy Maso South Carolina, 793 00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:39,880 Speaker 1: where it turns out that Tim Wallas's frankly has not 794 00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,560 Speaker 1: done a very good job of paying attention. Which makes sense, bro, 795 00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:45,600 Speaker 1: because you've allowed upwards of nine billion dollars in federal 796 00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:48,840 Speaker 1: tax payer funds to go to literal fraudsters, to people 797 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,479 Speaker 1: that can't even spell the freaking daycare center that they're 798 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:53,839 Speaker 1: doing to scam us out of our hard earned tax 799 00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:57,360 Speaker 1: payer dollars. This is a massive scandal. Jade Vance was 800 00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,720 Speaker 1: announced at the State of the Union as, among other things, 801 00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:02,480 Speaker 1: the new Tzar of fraud. Look, we know that Marco 802 00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:04,319 Speaker 1: Rubio is wearing a million hats these days. It's still 803 00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,719 Speaker 1: an ongoing meme on social media. I guess jadevances any 804 00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:08,759 Speaker 1: another hat to his repertoire as well. When it comes 805 00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:12,600 Speaker 1: to this new Czar of fraud, we'll see ultimately what happens. 806 00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:15,120 Speaker 1: Their Secretary of Scott best End at Treasury foods Worth 807 00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:18,719 Speaker 1: continues to look into into more financial crimes that are 808 00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,719 Speaker 1: being committed here as well. There are two high level 809 00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:25,120 Speaker 1: political takeaways when it comes to the ongoing smality fraud scandal. 810 00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:28,040 Speaker 1: Congressman Gil our friend, to his great credit, has been 811 00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:31,160 Speaker 1: to the spear in pushing both of these lines of thought. 812 00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:33,239 Speaker 1: On the one hand, you have the fact that this 813 00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:37,000 Speaker 1: is a searing indictment of the Democrat welfare states of 814 00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:41,200 Speaker 1: the LBJ. Gray society, and this whole broader vision for 815 00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:44,880 Speaker 1: a society that can just give out lots of money, 816 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:48,439 Speaker 1: just give out free stuff and free funds and free 817 00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:51,440 Speaker 1: this and free facts, and therefore in doing so that 818 00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,080 Speaker 1: you will make people better off and society as a 819 00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:57,520 Speaker 1: whole will be better. This has been debunked countless times 820 00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:01,240 Speaker 1: over the decades. I cannot commend highly enough Thomas Sole himself, 821 00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:05,640 Speaker 1: the legend, the living legend, the great economists, primarily affiliated 822 00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:09,160 Speaker 1: with the Hoofren suits out at Stanford, who Thomas Soule 823 00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:12,440 Speaker 1: has debunked this time and time again about how the 824 00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:16,760 Speaker 1: LBJ Great Society, more than anything else, really helped destroy 825 00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:21,239 Speaker 1: the black family in modern America, tragedy happening around the 826 00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:23,520 Speaker 1: same time actually as the Civil rights movement, which of 827 00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:27,080 Speaker 1: course was just and righteous. So the welfare state clearly, 828 00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:29,680 Speaker 1: clearly nearly needs to be cracked down upon. And boy 829 00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,080 Speaker 1: do we apparently need better checks when it comes to 830 00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:33,960 Speaker 1: out the other big thing. And this is my personal 831 00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:38,120 Speaker 1: favorite angle here is the topic of immigration. Somali's, as 832 00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,880 Speaker 1: Connors mc gill has noted, did not sail over on 833 00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:44,719 Speaker 1: the Mayflower. Bringing them here was an act of choice, 834 00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:49,960 Speaker 1: of collective volition on the part of societal elites of 835 00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:52,440 Speaker 1: those who are in control of immigration policy. For X 836 00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:54,520 Speaker 1: y Z reasons, they decide to import a lot of 837 00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:57,880 Speaker 1: people from Mogadishu, largely after a black Hawk down and 838 00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:01,960 Speaker 1: all of that. It's time to unwind these mistakes. There 839 00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,560 Speaker 1: was a mosque, for instance, outside Washington see earlier this 840 00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:07,920 Speaker 1: week talking about the Shaheed, the martyr Ali Khameeni of Iran. 841 00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:11,440 Speaker 1: There isn't a subversive fifth column in this country. We 842 00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:14,760 Speaker 1: should be denaturalizing and deporting as many of these individuals 843 00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:19,680 Speaker 1: who have tradually been naturalized citizens as possible. Unless until 844 00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:21,600 Speaker 1: we start doing this, this threat is going to loom 845 00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:25,680 Speaker 1: over us there. Diversity is not necessarily a strength. Frankly, 846 00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:29,560 Speaker 1: in many circumstances, diversity can be a massive, massive thor 847 00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:31,239 Speaker 1: in our side, and nothing has supposed. It's like the 848 00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:34,680 Speaker 1: smaller fraud scandal frankly recently in Minnesota. Folks, hope you 849 00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:36,960 Speaker 1: have a great risk reading. We will be right back tomorrow. 850 00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:37,960 Speaker 1: Josh Hammers signing off. 851 00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:42,200 Speaker 2: We'll see you that