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Speaker 3: All right, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. It is
Speaker 3: March tenth, twenty twenty six. Welcome Blake, Howdy, it's that
Speaker 3: time again. Lots to get to you. We got a
Speaker 3: jam packed show for you. Senator John Kennedy is going
Speaker 3: to be joining us. And then we've got a crazy
Speaker 3: story about leftist training juries to let the criminals off
Speaker 3: the hook. Yeah, it's bad, it's real bad, so we
Speaker 3: want to make sure we get to that. Then we've
Speaker 3: got Secretary of Energy Chris Wright joining us. Lots of
Speaker 3: news about the straighth Horn moves oil prices. We're going
Speaker 3: to get into it actually with Senator Kennedy as well.
Speaker 3: It comes from Oyl State Louisiana.
Speaker 2: And then we.
Speaker 3: Have Professor Ray from Hillsdale College gonna give us a
Speaker 3: whole history of Iran in that region, what this conflict
Speaker 3: really means for that. So lots of educating today, lots
Speaker 3: of explaining what's actually going on behind the headlines, because listen,
Speaker 3: there's a lot of short term push and pool you're
Speaker 3: gonna feel. There's a lot of Twitter chatter, there's gonna
Speaker 3: be a lot of social media chatter. There's gonna be
Speaker 3: a lot of headlines what's really going on, and there
Speaker 3: are some long term impacts that are gonna be felt.
Speaker 3: I mean, I kind of liken this too. You know,
Speaker 3: we live in historic times, Blake, where you could make
Speaker 3: the argument that Reagan in the eighties gave rise to
Speaker 3: Clinton's booming economy in the nineties, right, And so we
Speaker 3: are in that kind of an era where President Trump
Speaker 3: is doing a lot of hard things. You don't have
Speaker 3: to agree with everything. I'm not asking you to beat
Speaker 3: the drums of war. I certainly am not. But when
Speaker 3: you think about the foundations in the Middle East from
Speaker 3: an energy security standpoint, from a geopolitical standpoint, we are
Speaker 3: living in historic times and we have to understand where
Speaker 3: these pieces will lead, where they are going to take
Speaker 3: us in the years ahead. So we're gonna educate us,
Speaker 3: all of you ourselves as well. But first we got
Speaker 3: to get to what happened. There was another shooting and
Speaker 3: an American consul at this time in Toronto. Let's get
Speaker 3: the press clipping. We're gonna explain what's really going on here, clipbait.
Speaker 4: At this stage, I can confirm that the RCMP is
Speaker 4: working closely with the Toronto Police Service and our international
Speaker 4: partners who will assist us in a fulsome investigation into
Speaker 4: the shooting that took place overnight early this morning at
Speaker 4: the American consulate behind us. At this time, the INSET
Speaker 4: team has been engaged as this is a national security
Speaker 4: incident and we're working with Toronto police and others to
Speaker 4: understand the motivations of those involved.
Speaker 5: All right, use picture of the Canadian Mounty is like
Speaker 5: slamming the table.
Speaker 2: What could the motive be? So? Yeah, so this is
Speaker 2: what's so funny about Canada.
Speaker 3: Right, they won't say that it was a Muslim guy
Speaker 3: who's upset about the Iran conflicts so he went and
Speaker 3: shot up a US consulate in Toronto.
Speaker 5: Have this guy locked in a room and he'll be
Speaker 5: like I did it for IS. They'll punch him in
Speaker 5: the face. Stop speaking in reddles.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what is your motive? We all know what this is.
Speaker 3: Obviously, over the weekend we saw those two young men
Speaker 3: that were inspired by ISIS propaganda to go throw IDs
Speaker 3: and a bunch of protesters in New York. And now
Speaker 3: we have a shooting at a US consulate. There was
Speaker 3: obviously the Austin bar nightclub shooting where a number of
Speaker 3: people were shot. If you were killed, we know what
Speaker 3: the motivation is. So this is essentially the bargain that
Speaker 3: your leaders have made with you in the West. They've said,
Speaker 3: don't be racist. You've got to import the Third World,
Speaker 3: or you're racist and you're gonna like it. Invade you,
Speaker 3: you know, your your communities, invade me harder, daddy, that's
Speaker 3: the bargain. Now, what did you get out of that?
Speaker 3: You got approximately nothing, except now every time the Muslim
Speaker 3: community feels offended, you have to watch fellow Americans get
Speaker 3: shot up and bombs thrown at them. So, congratulations, Western man,
Speaker 3: this is the world that you've created, and for no
Speaker 3: particular reason. But this is a sad truth of this
Speaker 3: new reality that we live in. We have a bunch
Speaker 3: of Muslims all over the country now, all over the West,
Speaker 3: including Canada, England, France, Germany, And when they get offended
Speaker 3: there might drive their car into your parade or your
Speaker 3: Christmas festival. They might shoot up your consulate or throw
Speaker 3: IDs at you when you're protesting on the street, or
Speaker 3: they might just be your mayor in New York. So
Speaker 3: that's the breaking news. It's not good news, but it's
Speaker 3: unfortunately the reality that we live in.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 3: There is another angle that is also happening, and we're
Speaker 3: gonna get into this with Senator Kennedy when he joins.
Speaker 3: But President Trump told some reporters last night that the
Speaker 3: military mission is nearly complete.
Speaker 2: Now. The markets loved this.
Speaker 3: The Dow Jones was down all day yesterday when shooting
Speaker 3: back up ended the day up almost two hundred and
Speaker 3: forty points. Oil, which had spiked almost as high as
Speaker 3: one hundred and fifteen hundred and twenty dollars a barrel,
Speaker 3: is down around ninety now. So the war is very
Speaker 3: nearly complete, is the interesting.
Speaker 2: Way that he put this. So let's make sure.
Speaker 5: He said it's very complete, but also just beginning, which
Speaker 5: I think, And then a reporter asked him about it,
Speaker 5: and he said, in the way only Trump can it
Speaker 5: could be both. Yeah, well both, We're very complete so
Speaker 5: far and we're just beginning. How complete are.
Speaker 3: The words of Charlie? The unpredictability is the point. But
Speaker 3: it's interesting to see the markets react to this. Let's
Speaker 3: see here cut seven on Iran.
Speaker 5: You called it an excursion. You said it would be
Speaker 5: over soon. Are you thinking this week it will be over?
Speaker 6: To days?
Speaker 7: I think so okay, very soon. Look, everything they have
Speaker 7: is goun including their leadership. In fact, they are two
Speaker 7: levels of leadership and even actually, as it turns out,
Speaker 7: more than that, but two levels of leadership are gone.
Speaker 7: Most people have never even heard about the leaders that
Speaker 7: they're talking about. So it's obviously been very very powerful,
Speaker 7: very effective.
Speaker 3: So yeah, to Blake's point, I think, you know, we
Speaker 3: had Robert Barnes on yesterday and he was basically suggesting
Speaker 3: the president could declare victory at any point he wanted
Speaker 3: at this at this time and use that as an
Speaker 3: off ramp.
Speaker 5: It seems he could possibly even declare victory while still
Speaker 5: waging the conflict.
Speaker 3: I actually think there is a strategic brilliance to this though. Actually,
Speaker 3: I think the President understands that the Navy has been
Speaker 3: essentially degraded to the point that it's going to take
Speaker 3: them years, if not decades, to recreate the military infrastructure.
Speaker 3: I think they've got about twenty percent of the rocket
Speaker 3: launchers missile launchers remaining. I'm assuming those are going to
Speaker 3: be some of the cleanup work that's going on right now.
Speaker 3: The real question, though, is at what point, from a
Speaker 3: regime standpoint, is victory real. You know, you gotta understand,
Speaker 3: the regime tried to assassinate President Trump a couple of
Speaker 3: times at least they are. And by the way, the
Speaker 3: new leader, the son of Kamanee or whatever, his wife
Speaker 3: was killed.
Speaker 2: His son was killed. He must ain't killilled.
Speaker 5: No one has seen him yet. He might be a
Speaker 5: figurehead the president. Look, the President said he it's not
Speaker 5: going to be a long drawn out conflict. We have
Speaker 5: to hope that's true. I think it will be politically
Speaker 5: harmful if it is not true. So of course we
Speaker 5: want to have this end quickly. I think everyone wants
Speaker 5: it to end quickly. But the question is is how
Speaker 5: much will they be able to achieve before they can
Speaker 5: just say, all right, we're done and go home. But
Speaker 5: the thing that is inevitably true is it's a lot
Speaker 5: easier to start a conflict than to end it. And
Speaker 5: to some extent, as you said, all that all the
Speaker 5: new Supreme leaders family members got killed. But if he
Speaker 5: doesn't want it to end, what if he says, I'm
Speaker 5: going to send suicide bombers everywhere that we can one.
Speaker 3: There's a larger question about what it's going to take
Speaker 3: to get the population to take back their country or
Speaker 3: do we even want that?
Speaker 2: Do we even care?
Speaker 3: And it seems that in recent days, last two days specifically,
Speaker 3: the admin has been signaling that that's not as that's
Speaker 3: not as huge of a concern as maybe we anticipated
Speaker 3: at the beginning. Remember, they've lost about fifty of their
Speaker 3: you know, sort of political leaders, their top brass, so
Speaker 3: it'll be interesting to.
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Speaker 8: The brain is an amazing organ It starts working in
Speaker 8: a mother's womb and it does stop working until you
Speaker 8: get elected to coms.
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 8: I answer your question. Even dunc tape can't fix stupid.
Speaker 8: If this country was founded by geniuses but it's being
Speaker 8: run by a bunch of idiots, Anybody who votes for
Speaker 8: any of these bills without.
Speaker 6: Seeing the fine print is like a rock only dumber.
Speaker 8: Putting the vice president in charge of solving this problem,
Speaker 8: I don't know.
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Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 3: We have Senator John Kennedy on his first time on
Speaker 3: the show, so we wanted to make it special and
Speaker 3: do a brief montage of some of his greatest hits. Senator,
Speaker 3: Welcome to the Charlie kirkshawtz an honor to have you.
Speaker 3: I hope you didn't mind our celebration of some of
Speaker 3: your quips and whimsies. We love them here and so
Speaker 3: does the country. Welcome to the show.
Speaker 8: Well, thank you. I would deny everything, guys, but you
Speaker 8: have the video. Yeah, there's no thanks for having me Andrew.
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, it's honored to have you here, sir. We're
Speaker 3: you know, there's so much to talk about. You are
Speaker 3: the senator of a of an oil state, a state
Speaker 3: that's a lot of its economy is revolves around refineries
Speaker 3: and shipping, and there's a lot of news right now.
Speaker 3: So I wanted to get into that as a first step,
Speaker 3: and then we'll get into some of the DHS stuff.
Speaker 3: What's going on in Iran, How are you feeling about it?
Speaker 3: How is Louisiana feeling about it? And give us your perspective.
Speaker 8: I don't want America to be the worlds policeman, but
Speaker 8: on occasion we have to intervene because one of the
Speaker 8: bad guys is trying to be the world's policeman. Here's
Speaker 8: what our intelligence showed. You would think after the curb
Speaker 8: stomping that America and Israel gave Iran back in June,
Speaker 8: that they would have learned their lesson.
Speaker 6: They didn't.
Speaker 8: Our intelligence showed that Iran had restarted its nuclear weapons program.
Speaker 8: It was producing between two hundred and six hundred missiles
Speaker 8: a month. Its goal was to stockpile so many drums
Speaker 8: and so many ballistic and cruise missiles that it could
Speaker 8: threaten to destroy the entire Middle East if anybody interfered
Speaker 8: with their renewed efforts to get a nuclear weapon. That's
Speaker 8: not a world that's safe for America. The President, in
Speaker 8: my opinion, did not start a war. He's trying to
Speaker 8: prevent a war. It will be a limited excursion. So far,
Speaker 8: we've destroyed seventy five percent of their missile launchers. We're
Speaker 8: destroying their missile manufacturing facilities, their drone manufacturing facilities, their
Speaker 8: new efforts to get a nuclear warhead. We're destroying all
Speaker 8: of the infrastructure for the Revolutionary Guard.
Speaker 6: I think that.
Speaker 8: Will be complete, gentlemen, in the next few weeks, and
Speaker 8: then I expect the President to withdraw. I do not
Speaker 8: believe he will send troops. If he sends troops, the
Speaker 8: thud you hear will be me face planning from surprise.
Speaker 2: Please don't do that.
Speaker 3: But I think that's a really good assessment. And I
Speaker 3: think that you know, when conflict started, I felt that
Speaker 3: the it had not been sold properly to the American public.
Speaker 3: I trust the President and his instincts, and we have
Speaker 3: his back, but I did not feel that it had
Speaker 3: been sold properly. I do feel that comments from Senator
Speaker 3: Secretary of Rubio, from JD. Vance, from Secretary of Hegseth
Speaker 3: have completed the picture. And I think you've done a
Speaker 3: beautiful job there. Senator the question Andrew.
Speaker 8: If I could say, if I can say this, I
Speaker 8: think you're I think.
Speaker 6: You're you're, you're you're dead on there.
Speaker 8: Look, we both know the president UH as long as
Speaker 8: I've known him. He one of his character traits is
Speaker 8: that he grows anxious when he has an unexpressed thought.
Speaker 8: He has no filter, and sometimes that prevents him from
Speaker 8: articulating a message that is as tight or coherent as
Speaker 8: we would like.
Speaker 2: UH.
Speaker 8: Rubio is there to help. UH headset there to help.
Speaker 8: And what I just told you is what we have
Speaker 8: been told by the administration in classified and unclassified briefing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you are a great messenger.
Speaker 3: It's one of your hallmarks, and I think you've done
Speaker 3: a very good job of that right now.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 3: The question, though, is there's also a political calculus. And
Speaker 3: one of the things that I've been aware of is
Speaker 3: that this could be the absolute spot on right decision
Speaker 3: from a national security perspective, but it could have political ramifications.
Speaker 3: I can tell you, Senator that you know, the gen
Speaker 3: zers that we're talking to on campus are students. They're
Speaker 3: telling us that young people they don't want this conflict,
Speaker 3: even those that voted for President Trump do not want
Speaker 3: this conflict. What would your message be to gen zers
Speaker 3: watching and listening that are skeptical of any war.
Speaker 8: Well, look, those are fair questions that are being asked.
Speaker 8: People remember well Afghanistan, people remember well Libya, people remember
Speaker 8: well a Raq. Those are very fair questions.
Speaker 6: What I would tell them is the truth. What I
Speaker 6: just said.
Speaker 8: I'm not going to repeat it. This is a limited intervention.
Speaker 8: It's not something we wanted. We negotiated with the late Ayatola,
Speaker 8: who's now who's now as dead as Woodrow Wilson, and
Speaker 8: I don't wan't shed a tear for him.
Speaker 6: We negotiated with him for weeks.
Speaker 8: He said no to everything except once, and it became
Speaker 8: clear that we were going to get nowhere. I would
Speaker 8: like to see the president. He hasn't asked me for advice,
Speaker 8: so you know, I'm gonna offer it anyway. I would
Speaker 8: like to see the president address the nation and say
Speaker 8: here's why I went in and here's when I'm coming out. Uh,
Speaker 8: here's what we've accomplished. Here's my objective.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: Senator.
Speaker 3: So we've been told, we played the clip before you joined,
Speaker 3: that you know this could be nearly complete and that
Speaker 3: it's going to be short. So now we're hearing the
Speaker 3: messaging kind of pivot. There's a little bit of a
Speaker 3: pivot in the messaging. What what does success look like
Speaker 3: in this conflict? If Comani's son is still, you know,
Speaker 3: the the new supreme leader.
Speaker 6: Well, here here's what success looks like to me.
Speaker 8: And I don't speak for him, but I think it
Speaker 8: a President Trump would would agree. Successful to me is
Speaker 8: Iran or the political theological leadership in Iran having four
Speaker 8: wheels down and they're actual dragging drone manufacturing facilities gone
Speaker 8: missile manufacturing facilities gone, new steps to obtain a nuclear
Speaker 8: warhead gone, Ranian Navy gone, I Ranian Air Force gone.
Speaker 8: As much infrastructure as we can find for the Revolutionary
Speaker 8: Guard gone.
Speaker 6: And then the good people, and they.
Speaker 8: Are good people of Iran who don't want these uh,
Speaker 8: these these knob heads running their country any more than
Speaker 8: anybody else in the world does, will have an opportunity,
Speaker 8: perhaps maybe to to choose their own government. Success to
Speaker 8: me looks like a few more weeks. I don't want
Speaker 8: to leave too soon, just because of my democratic colleagues
Speaker 8: are screaming like they're part of a prison right. They're
Speaker 8: not going to support anything that President Trump does. But
Speaker 8: but that's what success looks like to me.
Speaker 5: I guess rational consider a lot of people have is
Speaker 5: if we if we even if we do all that destruction,
Speaker 5: if we come out and the regimes is still in
Speaker 5: place and still despises us, would we be able to
Speaker 5: go back? I guess I would just be worried. Is
Speaker 5: this just a giant, a bigger version of what happened
Speaker 5: last summer? Where we go in and we break a
Speaker 5: lot of stuff, but the fundamental problem is still there
Speaker 5: and might even hate us a lot more.
Speaker 9: Well.
Speaker 8: I supported what we did last summer, and I support
Speaker 8: what we what we're doing now. I'm not gonna repeat
Speaker 8: everything I just said. The question I think most fair
Speaker 8: minded people have to ask themselves is is the world
Speaker 8: better off after we leave around this time? Having done
Speaker 8: what I just said we were going to do, and
Speaker 8: we're doing it, We're almost done. Is the world better off?
Speaker 9: And?
Speaker 8: I think the answer and are the Iranian people better off?
Speaker 8: Have we completely solved the problem? No, it's going to
Speaker 8: take regime change, but the people of Iran are going
Speaker 8: to have to determine that they want resume change.
Speaker 2: Look, the.
Speaker 8: New Supreme Leader just like the old Supreme Leader. They
Speaker 8: believe that their God tells them to kill everybody who
Speaker 8: doesn't agree with them, not just Americans, not just Israelis,
Speaker 8: even their fellow Muslims. I don't think any fair minded
Speaker 8: person believes that they are not trying to obtain.
Speaker 6: A nuclear weapon.
Speaker 8: I don't think any fair minded person believes that if
Speaker 8: they obtain a nuclear warhead and the missile technology to
Speaker 8: deliver it, they will use it and once they get it,
Speaker 8: I don't think any fair minded person believes that that
Speaker 8: will not lead to nuclear proliferation.
Speaker 6: Every country in.
Speaker 8: The Middle East will obtain a nuclear weapon, so will Japan,
Speaker 8: so will South Korea, so will Australia, and then it's
Speaker 8: off to the races. We have a chance to stop it.
Speaker 8: Does it necessarily mean regime change? I don't know, guys.
Speaker 8: I hope so, but you know I have to I
Speaker 8: can't predict the future. I have to wait for it
Speaker 8: like everybody else.
Speaker 6: Let me say it again.
Speaker 8: I don't want America to be the world's policeman, but
Speaker 8: there are times that we have to intervene to keep
Speaker 8: the bad guys from being the world's policeman. And this
Speaker 8: is one of those times. Yeah, and let me just
Speaker 8: say I talked about this in my book.
Speaker 6: I don't know why this.
Speaker 8: I don't know why this is, guys, but there's some
Speaker 8: people in this world. They're not mixed up, they're not confused,
Speaker 8: they're not sick. It's not that their mama and daddy
Speaker 8: didn't love them enough.
Speaker 6: They're just bad people.
Speaker 8: If I make it to have and I'm gonna ask
Speaker 8: God why some of them run countries and if you
Speaker 8: weakness around them invites the wolves. Every single time, you
Speaker 8: have to be careful. We don't want another war in
Speaker 8: the Middle East, but this limited excursion is necessary.
Speaker 3: I think that's so well said. And the title of
Speaker 3: your book is just too good. We have to I
Speaker 3: have to mention it how to test negative for stupid
Speaker 3: and why Washington never will and.
Speaker 2: By Senator John Kennedy. Everybody check it out.
Speaker 3: Senator, you did the country a great service, and I'll
Speaker 3: explain why I think that in just a second. But
Speaker 3: you had a questioning a line of questioning that led
Speaker 3: to a series of events at DHS, and I'm going
Speaker 3: to play that clip for everybody.
Speaker 2: Cut three.
Speaker 8: You're testifying that President Trump approved this ahead of time.
Speaker 6: So I m to understand.
Speaker 10: We had conversations about making sure that we were telling people.
Speaker 8: No, ma'm I'm I asking you a short interrupt, but
Speaker 8: the President approved ahead of time. You spending two hundred
Speaker 8: and twenty million dollars running TV ads across the country
Speaker 8: in which you are featured prominently.
Speaker 10: Yes, sir, we went through the legal processes, did it?
Speaker 6: Yes? He did.
Speaker 10: Yes, Okay, And one thing Senator I think would be
Speaker 10: helpful to know is how effective that communications has been.
Speaker 2: Senator Obviously that interaction led to.
Speaker 3: Your colleague, Senator Mark Wayne Mullen being announced as to
Speaker 3: the new DHS secretary.
Speaker 2: So I have a I have a.
Speaker 5: Question, what do you have against Senator Mullen poising him
Speaker 5: into the bureaucracy.
Speaker 6: Look, I accept for responsibility for that. That was me.
Speaker 8: Nobody put me up to it, Nobody asked me to
Speaker 8: do it, nobody approved my questions.
Speaker 6: Uh, that was me.
Speaker 8: Uh, I have I have a lot of gratitude to
Speaker 8: the former secretary in her department for securing the southern border.
Speaker 8: Actually was President Trump who secured the southern border. She
Speaker 8: and her team implemented his policies. But there are management
Speaker 8: problems at the Department of Homeland Security.
Speaker 6: I only got to talk about two of.
Speaker 8: Them in the limited time I had, But there are others,
Speaker 8: and they are distracting and we're distracting from President Trump's
Speaker 8: agenda and our agenda to make this country better. Number two,
Speaker 8: A quarter of a billion, not a million, quarter of
Speaker 8: a billion dollars to run ads in which the secretary starred.
Speaker 8: To me, they looked like political ads. Quarter of a
Speaker 8: billion dollars and apparently they weren't bid out, and they
Speaker 8: allegedly went to.
Speaker 6: Friends of hers.
Speaker 8: Consider that spending porn the President didn't approve it. I'm
Speaker 8: gonna call out spending porn every single time, doesn't matter
Speaker 8: who doesn't. And you can write that down and take
Speaker 8: it home to Mama. And if somebody gets upset about that,
Speaker 8: they need to fill out a hurt feelings report because
Speaker 8: I'm gonna keep doing it. And that's all that it
Speaker 8: was to it. It wasn't some deep dark agenda. It
Speaker 8: was meet my doing. Some liked it, some didn't. But
Speaker 8: I will tell you this, I've seen President Trump mad before,
Speaker 8: but this time, as I said the other day, he
Speaker 8: was mad as a murder hornet.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, interesting background that you were probably not aware of.
Speaker 3: We spent the whole day before the announcement was made
Speaker 3: that there was gonna be a change of leadership calling
Speaker 3: this out. And why it was so important was because
Speaker 3: the Democrats have known about this stuff and they were
Speaker 3: waiting to pounce. And if they get power in after
Speaker 3: the mid terms, god forbid, they were going to use
Speaker 3: this against the President and you. So you did the
Speaker 3: nation of service, and I'll prove it to you. Here's
Speaker 3: Jamie Raskin in the House cut.
Speaker 11: One investigation into the hundreds of millions of dollars that
Speaker 11: Secretary Nome channeled to various political friends and intimates of hers,
Speaker 11: so that that money can be reclaimed for the American people.
Speaker 11: Hundreds of millions of dollars might be a joke to
Speaker 11: somebody in the Trump cabinet, but it's not a joke
Speaker 11: to the American people.
Speaker 3: And I've been hearing rumors, Senator that they were going
Speaker 3: to use these for impeachment, maybe impeachment of Nome, maybe
Speaker 3: impeachment of President Trump. So you getting ahead of this
Speaker 3: did a great service to the country, and I genuinely
Speaker 3: thank you for it. And it's no disrespect for some
Speaker 3: of the achievements, but yeah, we'd have been here in
Speaker 3: rumblings ourselves, and so I think you did a really
Speaker 3: great thing and it showed a lot of courage. So
Speaker 3: the question is you had you had a hearing this
Speaker 3: morning where somebody was saying that the judges, the judicial
Speaker 3: activists that are fighting ICE and deportations are braver than
Speaker 3: our ICE agents, and you you said that that guy
Speaker 3: triggered your gag reflex. I thought it was another brilliant line.
Speaker 3: Tell us what success looks like at DHS deportations. It's
Speaker 3: one of the central planks of the President's agenda.
Speaker 8: Legal immigration is legal illegal immigration, you see I legal?
Speaker 6: Uh duh.
Speaker 8: Our immigration laws are not some second tier statutes that
Speaker 8: people can violate without consequence. We need to enforce our
Speaker 8: immigration laws. Number two. How you enforce the matters, they
Speaker 8: have to be enforced in accordance with due process, with
Speaker 8: equal protection, uh, in accordance with the standards set forth
Speaker 8: for reasonable suspicion in the Supreme.
Speaker 6: Court case of Terry Vill Ohio.
Speaker 8: If you want to protest them, you have every right
Speaker 8: as an American. You do not have the right to
Speaker 8: protest violently. Violence undermines the morality of what you say
Speaker 8: your movement stands for. Gandhi knew that doctor King knew
Speaker 8: that Mandela knew that protesting violently is also exquisitely stupid.
Speaker 6: You're going to get hurt.
Speaker 8: Most cops that I know, the vast majority, will leave
Speaker 8: you alone unless you do illegal stuff. And then if
Speaker 8: you do illegal stuff, they're going to enforce the law.
Speaker 8: That also seems to me to be a matter of
Speaker 8: common sense. I think Mark Wayne will bring some common
Speaker 8: sense back. I think Mark Wayne trusts Tom Holand, who
Speaker 8: I think has done an admirable job.
Speaker 6: I think he will be firm.
Speaker 8: I think he will be fair, and I think he
Speaker 8: will be confirmed by the United States Senate. I think
Speaker 8: the President has chosen him well. He's tough as a
Speaker 8: pine knot, and I hope he gets you confirmed quickly.
Speaker 3: Senator, one last question for you, and I know you
Speaker 3: got to run here. There is some rumors of what
Speaker 3: if any sort of deals could be made with these
Speaker 3: blue jurisdictions, the sanctuary cities and sanctuary states, and to
Speaker 3: get them to cooperate. Some people have mentioned that we
Speaker 3: might have to offer up a pathway for dhaka.
Speaker 2: Recipients or something.
Speaker 3: Right, these are things that are going to grade against
Speaker 3: the base the people in this audience. Do you feel
Speaker 3: like some sort of deal needs to be made in
Speaker 3: that way or is that what they're going to demand?
Speaker 3: How can we get the Democrats to even fund DHS.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of questions here, but is there anything
Speaker 3: that you'd be willing I know you're not the secretary,
Speaker 3: but is there anything that you'd be willing to offer
Speaker 3: up in exchange for getting them to cooperate with ice detainers?
Speaker 8: Don't I don't think there's anything we can't offer up.
Speaker 8: I wouldn't support, offering them up anything. Most of these
Speaker 8: people believe in open borders. They believe in They are
Speaker 8: also the ones who told us to defund the police.
Speaker 8: We've seen that vampire movie. We know how it turns out.
Speaker 8: They also that now they want to defund ice. That's
Speaker 8: ultimately what this is all about. You can't reasonable people
Speaker 8: like that. If if I were king for a day,
Speaker 8: I'm not, don't aspire to be, I would. I would
Speaker 8: use every legal mechanism I could to withhold their money,
Speaker 8: because what they're doing refusing to enforce federal law, not
Speaker 8: changing it.
Speaker 6: They are just.
Speaker 8: They think they're smarter and more virtuous than the American people,
Speaker 8: and can and can pick and shoes among which of
Speaker 8: our laws they think are just or unjust.
Speaker 6: I would withhold their money.
Speaker 8: Many of these people, many of these people think America
Speaker 8: was wicked when it was founded, and it's more wicked today.
Speaker 6: I don't know, not all of them, but many of
Speaker 6: them do that.
Speaker 8: They're they're they're they're they're king of the hill, top
Speaker 8: of the lists.
Speaker 6: Crazy. I'm sorry, but that's the way it is.
Speaker 8: And I don't think anything we offer them will get
Speaker 8: them to change their minds Now, It's not all my, my, my,
Speaker 8: my Democratic friends, but there's some of others are just
Speaker 8: scared guys. The Karen wing of the Democratic Party wants
Speaker 8: to defund ice, and the Karen wing of the Democratic
Speaker 8: Party has told all all the elected officials who happen
Speaker 8: to be Democrats that if they don't do their best
Speaker 8: to defund ice, they the Karen wing will will punish
Speaker 8: them the rest of their natural lives. And they're scared.
Speaker 2: I think you're right.
Speaker 3: The radical left wing fringe of the Democrat Party or
Speaker 3: the progressive coal controls the party. And sometimes I wonder
Speaker 3: about our own side.
Speaker 2: Senator. You know, we're talking about this.
Speaker 3: Everybody wants to Save America Act Pact passed, and it
Speaker 3: seems like I just we can't make any progress on it,
Speaker 3: and this audience is frustrated by that.
Speaker 2: I'm frustrated.
Speaker 8: Well, I think you'll see some progress soon. I support
Speaker 8: the Save the Act. I'm a co sponsor. Here's what
Speaker 8: I think we ought to do. I think I'm in
Speaker 8: the minority. The short way home here is a reconciliation.
Speaker 8: If we do do it, the reconciliation, we only need
Speaker 8: fifty one votes. Some of my colleagues say, Kennedy, you
Speaker 8: know that's crazy. It'll never never pass muster under the
Speaker 8: Budget Controlled Actor, which is one of the parameters on
Speaker 8: your ability to do something to reconciliation.
Speaker 6: There's what I say.
Speaker 8: Look, I've seen things pass muster under the under reconciliation
Speaker 8: and what we call the bird Bath that I never
Speaker 8: thought had a chance. And I've seen other things that
Speaker 8: I thought were slam don't get turned down. Uh if
Speaker 8: if if I were king for a day, I'm not,
Speaker 8: but I would go hire the best legal minds I
Speaker 8: could find for us to craft a provision around the
Speaker 8: Save Act that would pass muster under the Budget Control
Speaker 8: Act and and would survive a bird bath. And I
Speaker 8: would take our shot. And I don't know why we
Speaker 8: haven't done that.
Speaker 6: We could have done it weeks ago.
Speaker 8: I'm not criticizing anybody, but that's just the way I
Speaker 8: would do.
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Speaker 5: Well, I'm sure a lot of you already know, and
Speaker 5: remember today is six months since what happened to Charlie,
Speaker 5: and one of the concerns we all have is making
Speaker 5: sure that the man who killed him is convicted. And
Speaker 5: one thing we're all becoming much more aware of is
Speaker 5: the potential for our jury system to be a weak
Speaker 5: point in making sure that criminals are held to account
Speaker 5: for what they do. And so there was a piece
Speaker 5: yesterday in the Washington Freebeacon. They do a lot of
Speaker 5: great work about this fact that there is a left
Speaker 5: wing group training activists on how to undermine the jury system.
Speaker 5: And so we have the reporter who wrote that, Pisa
Speaker 5: Thomas Cadanacci. Are you there, Thomas, I'm here, Hey, welcome
Speaker 5: to the program. So this group Freedom Trainers, why don't
Speaker 5: you just tell us what they're doing, what they're telling people,
Speaker 5: and what the ramifications of this would be.
Speaker 12: Absolutely well, I really appreciate you having me on, first
Speaker 12: of all to talk about this, because I think it's
Speaker 12: such an important issue and it's certainly something that's going
Speaker 12: under the radar. So also just at the forefront, I
Speaker 12: want to say, this is something that I had to
Speaker 12: do multiple double takes on because I couldn't believe what
Speaker 12: I was coming across when I was researching this. Essentially,
Speaker 12: there's a group based in DC that it's focused on
Speaker 12: DC right now, but it could clearly be something that
Speaker 12: spreads across the country, and perhaps it has. But what
Speaker 12: we see is they're working in DC to undermine Trump
Speaker 12: DOJ prosecutions that are taking place in the DC the
Speaker 12: Attorney's office. And so what the group does is essentially
Speaker 12: educate members of the jury or themselves, try to infiltrate
Speaker 12: juries and went on there. They vote quote in favor
Speaker 12: of their conscience, not in favor of the law, and
Speaker 12: obviously this has a number of ramifications. One thing I
Speaker 12: just want to say, also off off the start, is
Speaker 12: you know, the the DJ itself is not early an
Speaker 12: agency that often comments on things like this, But I
Speaker 12: thought it was very telling that after we reached out,
Speaker 12: they did want to comment, and they gave a pretty
Speaker 12: forceful response to our reporting here, saying that they're aware
Speaker 12: and that they're you know, anyone who engages in this
Speaker 12: type of activism should be held accountable.
Speaker 5: Is there a way to hold them accountable? Because I
Speaker 5: suppose what seems like a vulnerability here is, as they
Speaker 5: point out, it basically is legal to do this to
Speaker 5: decide you get on a jury and just decide I'm
Speaker 5: not going to convey for any reason whatsoever. Now, as
Speaker 5: your piece points out, judges and lawyers will attempt to
Speaker 5: remove such people. But all their training materials here are
Speaker 5: basically how to sneak onto a jury so that you
Speaker 5: can rig the verdict correct exactly.
Speaker 12: And so one thing I will know is in their
Speaker 12: training materials and in their webinars which I attended, they
Speaker 12: say that there are sort of unambiguously legal maneuvers that
Speaker 12: you can take, such as you know, quote educating the
Speaker 12: public in the way that they're doing handing out flyers
Speaker 12: in near courthouses. That appears to be one of the
Speaker 12: main things they do. They camp outside of courthouses during
Speaker 12: jury selection and try to give pamphlets to prospective jurors.
Speaker 12: And those pamphlets, which I also obtained, will have all
Speaker 12: sorts of different, uh you know, legal rationales to try
Speaker 12: to help jurors you know, vote again their conscience. But
Speaker 12: in addition to the unambiguously legal that they say, there
Speaker 12: are the quote legal but risky. This is where the
Speaker 12: duj could potentially step in the legal but risky are
Speaker 12: things like discussing this process with jurors before deliberations begin.
Speaker 12: This is something that's almost certainly happening. But again, no
Speaker 12: one's been caught doing this or publicly stating that you
Speaker 12: intend to nullify. That's something that they again they say
Speaker 12: is legal but risky. I highly doubt that people who
Speaker 12: want to thwart a duj prosecution are going to just
Speaker 12: come out and openly say it. But it's that first
Speaker 12: point discussing nullification with jurors, especially in the process of
Speaker 12: giving out one of these pamphlets and you know, quote
Speaker 12: educating that could be a potential hurdle for them in
Speaker 12: the future.
Speaker 2: You know what just reminds me of is like you
Speaker 2: know those jurists on the the on the jurors rather
Speaker 2: on the O. J.
Speaker 3: Simpson trial that were just like they some of them
Speaker 3: admitted afterwards that they they knew he was guilty, but
Speaker 3: they just were it was a get back for Ryan King.
Speaker 5: And it's there's a lot of other cases, if you know,
Speaker 5: every prosecutor in a big city has seen it happen
Speaker 5: where this and it's a vulnerability because you need the
Speaker 5: Supreme Court actually confirmed in a case recently, you need
Speaker 5: unanimity of twelve jurors to convict in a criminal case,
Speaker 5: and you only need one holdout of those twelve to
Speaker 5: have a hung jury. And you know, it's difficult to
Speaker 5: bring a trial, it's time consuming to do a trial.
Speaker 5: You have to start over if there's a hung jury.
Speaker 5: And that's what they're telling people in these materials. If
Speaker 5: you you only need to be that one holdout, and
Speaker 5: you can just say I'm not gonna convict, I'm not convinced,
Speaker 5: I'm voting not guilty, and you can blow up the
Speaker 5: whole case. And we were seeing this over and over
Speaker 5: with the grand juries, they're not indicting cases the federal
Speaker 5: government's bringing. But you only need one of these people
Speaker 5: in the Luigi Manngoni case. You might only need one
Speaker 5: of these people in the Tyler Robinson case.
Speaker 2: And it's it's scary.
Speaker 12: It's giving people the opportunity, people, people who might have
Speaker 12: been activists before. It's giving them that sort of like
Speaker 12: quote unquote legal backing to go ahead and thwart an
Speaker 12: entire prosecution, regardless of the evidence, and regardless of the
Speaker 12: fact that the system, the justice system in the US,
Speaker 12: which we all love, is built on that idea of fairness,
Speaker 12: and so if people try to undermine that, that could
Speaker 12: undermine the American public's confidence in the system itself. Also,
Speaker 12: just give you a few examples. There was the case
Speaker 12: in DC of the sandwich man who threw a subway
Speaker 12: sandwich at a National Guard member and the grand jury
Speaker 12: failed to indict. And this group and their webinars really
Speaker 12: seems to suggest that this was a case of people
Speaker 12: who are on the jury who didn't really care about
Speaker 12: the evidence. They go through this in detail, you know,
Speaker 12: asking the participants of their webinars about you know, if
Speaker 12: you were on the jury, what would your excuse be
Speaker 12: for voting against indictment in this case? And they all
Speaker 12: kind of list their examples, and then you know, the
Speaker 12: trainer gets up there and says, well, you can really
Speaker 12: give whatever or no explanation for your vote. You can
Speaker 12: just simply vote against if you agree with the guy
Speaker 12: who assaulted the member of the National Guard. And so
Speaker 12: that that's one example, and I think that there's going
Speaker 12: to be multiple of these. They also cite the case of,
Speaker 12: you know, there was the case of six members of
Speaker 12: Congress who you know, put out a video saying that
Speaker 12: members of the military should in many cases reject and
Speaker 12: turn down orders from Trump himself. And those six members
Speaker 12: of Congress we were not indicted because a grand jury
Speaker 12: decided that there was not enough evidence in that case.
Speaker 12: So there are these examples, and they're happening, and you know,
Speaker 12: my personal fear when I see this stuff is that
Speaker 12: you know, it will spread to you know, the Tyler
Speaker 12: Robins and trial, it will spread to the Luigi MANGEONI,
Speaker 12: it will spread to a number of other trials. You know,
Speaker 12: I'm actually an energy reporter, and one thing I've done
Speaker 12: is report on climate cases in which you know, states
Speaker 12: and cities accuse the biggest oil companies of causing climate change.
Speaker 12: And these are cases where billions of.
Speaker 2: Dollars are at stake.
Speaker 12: So if you get one, you know jury that with
Speaker 12: a couple of people on there who are activists and
Speaker 12: don't really care about the law, they could actually with
Speaker 12: their vote, you know, really damage the economy by destroying
Speaker 12: the oil companies who are probably falsely being accused of
Speaker 12: causing weather events, you know, like hurricanes. And so I
Speaker 12: think there's there's really a large impact that this could.
Speaker 6: Have moving forward.
Speaker 2: You got to give it to lefties.
Speaker 5: They are so very or organized in being very evil.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: They they constantly open up new fronts in the assault
Speaker 3: on Western civilization.
Speaker 5: And I'll be frank, I think I don't want to
Speaker 5: soft pedal this. This is one of the things that
Speaker 5: frightens me the most. I've been thinking about it, you know,
Speaker 5: coming up for a long time that this is this
Speaker 5: is a weakness in our system because it is in
Speaker 5: the constitution that you need a jury verdict to convict
Speaker 5: somebody of a crime. It is something that's been around
Speaker 5: in the Anglo legal system for a very long time.
Speaker 5: And if you have you know, complete polarization a long
Speaker 5: political lines or along racial lines. Where you can't assemble
Speaker 5: twelve people to consistently convict someone on any crime that
Speaker 5: has racial valance or political valance, the country's going to
Speaker 5: fly apart. And this has happened before in I believe
Speaker 5: Ireland under the British there would be terrorist attacks on
Speaker 5: like British officials and like juries would just not convict
Speaker 5: and so they basically had to revoke the right to
Speaker 5: a jury trial in Ireland to make sure they could
Speaker 5: convict people of crimes. In Britain. Right now they're trying
Speaker 5: to revoke the right to a jury trial for any
Speaker 5: crime with a sentence of under three years. They're just
Speaker 5: the general decay of their system. And so this is
Speaker 5: a very judges judged and yeah, we have judge problems.
Speaker 5: And this is a right that has been so integral
Speaker 5: to American civilization Western Anglo civilization for so long and
Speaker 5: now we're seeing it being used to further tear it down.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the left go back. I mean, it's
Speaker 3: probably dates back further than that, but you know, you
Speaker 3: see the rise of critical theory in the in the
Speaker 3: law schools going back to the nineteen eighties. They've identified
Speaker 3: our judicial system and our criminal justice system as a
Speaker 3: point of weakness for a long time that they're looking
Speaker 3: to exploit. You know, it makes you think of the
Speaker 3: John Adams quote. You know that the our founding documents
Speaker 3: are only you know, good for moral and upright people, right,
Speaker 3: they're wholly inadequate for any there any other. So it
Speaker 3: makes you nervous when you see the degradation of our
Speaker 3: people that then filter into the system that we need
Speaker 3: to function correctly. Final words here, we got to get
Speaker 3: ready for our two here in Secretary Chris Wright, who's
Speaker 3: coming up next, but the floor is yours to wrap
Speaker 3: up this this Yeah.
Speaker 12: I'll just think three quick points here. At number one,
Speaker 12: this group Freedom Trainers is housed at a larger, pretty
Speaker 12: major nonprofit called Community Change. Community Change is funded by
Speaker 12: kind of all the usual suspects, Rockefellers, the Arabella Network,
Speaker 12: Open Society, which is George Soros's network, and then Hansuergweeze's
Speaker 12: network as well, who's another foreign billionaire influencing American politics.
Speaker 12: Number two, they say they've already trained hundreds of thousands
Speaker 12: of people, which is a little alarming. And number three,
Speaker 12: I will say that. One of the leaders of this
Speaker 12: group and someone named Maria Stephen. She was on The
Speaker 12: Colbert Show recently as a sort of what he described
Speaker 12: as a non resistance or a non violence resistance scholar,
Speaker 12: whatever that means, and she talked about the dangers of
Speaker 12: ICE and how ICE officers can again reject orders from
Speaker 12: their higher ups in their course.
Speaker 6: Of doing business.
Speaker 12: So those are kind of three points I wanted to
Speaker 12: make to kind of show people how prevalent this is
Speaker 12: right now and how really we need to start becoming
Speaker 12: more aware of this.
Speaker 3: Those are really salient points, So thank you for adding those.
Speaker 3: You got to believe that there's got to be some
Speaker 3: law that these people have triggered that we can prosecute.
Speaker 5: It's using really hit the historic strengths of our system
Speaker 5: against it.
Speaker 3: Oh it's kind of like immigration. H Yeah, kind of
Speaker 3: like our compassion or openness. Thank you so much. This
Speaker 3: is super fascinating, terrifying, but important for us to go through.
Speaker 3: So thank you for making the time. And sorry the
Speaker 3: schedule got pushed back.
Speaker 2: A little bit there. Awesome. Keep up the great work.
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Speaker 3: We should be joined shortly by Secretary of Chris Wright,
Speaker 3: Department of Energy.
Speaker 2: Secretary of US Secretary of Energy.
Speaker 3: Big big job right now, because everybody's talking about oil
Speaker 3: and I just checked it.
Speaker 2: It is down eleven percent today.
Speaker 5: It's all over the place.
Speaker 2: It's down.
Speaker 5: Every single commodity is now just another cryptocurrency swing. You're
Speaker 5: so twenty five percent today, you know, just cause no,
Speaker 5: you're absolutely right.
Speaker 3: It's it like we talk about how our brains get
Speaker 3: impacted by social media and by everything being digital, and
Speaker 3: these things used to move like an oil taker slowly,
Speaker 3: that they would turn slowly, but now everything's so quick.
Speaker 2: You had a spike.
Speaker 3: So on March it looks like six at some point
Speaker 3: it went from about eighty seven dollars a barrel to
Speaker 3: one hundred and seven. Now on some of the I
Speaker 3: think after hours trading, it spiked all the way up
Speaker 3: to almost one hundred and twenty. But now it's been
Speaker 3: slowly coming down. It's back at eighty four seventy three.
Speaker 3: That is Brent crude oil per barrel. There it is,
Speaker 3: and it's going down. So we're gonna have secretary right.
Speaker 3: It looks like he's just getting seated. So they're gonna
Speaker 3: give me the go ahead and just a second there.
Speaker 3: But this is the big job right now for this administration.
Speaker 3: There's a whole bunch of education that needs to happen.
Speaker 3: And hopefully Secretary Right can walk us through how the
Speaker 3: price of oil then is translate it's delayed which a
Speaker 3: lot of people don't realize, into the price of the pump,
Speaker 3: and what we can do to bring down those costs,
Speaker 3: what we can do to get the straight of horn Moose,
Speaker 3: which is effectively blocked right now. How do we get
Speaker 3: that opened up? What is it going to take.
Speaker 2: Is it insurance, ensuring the tankers? Is it? Is it
Speaker 2: working with the oil companies? Is it?
Speaker 3: Do we just have to keep bombing the hell out
Speaker 3: of Iran until they relinquish? All right, I'm told Secretary
Speaker 3: Chris Right is ready. Welcome back to the show. Secretary,
Speaker 3: you have a huge job right now. You're looking at Venezuela,
Speaker 3: you're looking at Iran, you're looking at your pride. You're
Speaker 3: making a lot of phone calls, so thank you for
Speaker 3: making the time.
Speaker 2: Tell us.
Speaker 3: So the price of Brent crude is at eighty three
Speaker 3: forty four right now, it's coming down.
Speaker 2: What's it? Why is it coming down? And what more
Speaker 2: can we do.
Speaker 13: Well, Andrew, thanks for having me.
Speaker 9: I appreciate you, appreciate all your viewership.
Speaker 13: So yeah, the.
Speaker 9: Straits of Hormus that most of the Middle Eastern crude
Speaker 9: flows through have been effectively close since this conflict started.
Speaker 13: That's what drove them up.
Speaker 9: And of course the biggest answer here is to end
Speaker 9: Iran's ability to attack the United States bases, terrorize their neighbors,
Speaker 9: and threaten oil supplies.
Speaker 13: That they've been doing for forty seven years.
Speaker 9: So right now, you know they are uncontrolled and they
Speaker 9: have so much armaments they're able to scare shipping traffic off.
Speaker 9: But every day, every hour, we're degrading the Iranian nation's
Speaker 9: ability to terrorize their neighbors, threaten energy supplies, and kill
Speaker 9: American soldiers. This has been a forty seven year long conflict.
Speaker 9: They've always put a premium on raised energy prices higher
Speaker 9: than they should be because Iran always had the risk
Speaker 9: of this sort of wanton projection of their power over
Speaker 9: this critical waterway. And so why they've treated in the
Speaker 9: short run is the United States, in consultation with a
Speaker 9: bunch of other nations that are part of the International
Speaker 9: Energy Agency, have agreed or are in the process of
Speaker 9: working an agreement to release oil out of strategic petroleum
Speaker 9: reserves to replace a fair amount of the lost crude
Speaker 9: oil coming out of the Strait, so that will keep
Speaker 9: global oil markets supplied going forward.
Speaker 13: There are oil stores around the world.
Speaker 9: We do have surplus oil production capacity in the world,
Speaker 9: but a lot comes out of the Strait of Hormuz.
Speaker 9: So the price and fear factor are raising prices because
Speaker 9: of the lack of flow of energy. But ultimately, we
Speaker 9: need to degrade Iran's military ability to do what they're
Speaker 9: doing today and what they've threatened to do and on
Speaker 9: and off done for forty seven years.
Speaker 3: So with a solution, I've heard different ideas floated out
Speaker 3: ensuring insurance for these tankers, I've seen potential military escorts.
Speaker 3: Are any steps being taken on either of those two fronts?
Speaker 13: Oh?
Speaker 9: Absolutely that those were the first steps we announced. I
Speaker 9: was saying the recent movement in oil prices was because
Speaker 9: of the potential release coming. The first things we announced
Speaker 9: was the commercial insurance market for ships. You know, rates
Speaker 9: were going up and it wasn't clear if that market
Speaker 9: was really open.
Speaker 13: So we've offered to reinsure the insurance.
Speaker 9: Companies which will allow the insurance market to open back up.
Speaker 9: But tied together with that is people will transit the
Speaker 9: straight when they believe the risk is relatively low, so
Speaker 9: it's physical security for the ship captains to go through. Now,
Speaker 9: we've had a large oil tanker went through the straits
Speaker 9: forty eight hours ago.
Speaker 13: We have others that are interested to try to do.
Speaker 9: That, but you know, that's not clear yet whether we've
Speaker 9: degraded Iran's capacity to cause trouble enough to make transit safe.
Speaker 9: One has gone through and it worked fine, but you
Speaker 9: know there's still risks there.
Speaker 13: Every day we're degrading them.
Speaker 9: But when we degrade them enough that it seems like
Speaker 9: a ship escort with the US military is enough to
Speaker 9: ensure safe travel.
Speaker 13: That'll be a great day. And I think that's not
Speaker 13: too far away. But you know, somehow we need to
Speaker 13: get that energy flow into the world again.
Speaker 9: And of course the US has a lot of levers
Speaker 9: to pull and are act.
Speaker 13: And are working this.
Speaker 3: Every day every day, So the Secretary the you know,
Speaker 3: there's a whole piece to this where I think the
Speaker 3: average American consumer is a little uneducated about the price fluctuations. Right,
Speaker 3: So we've seen the price at the pump go up,
Speaker 3: and I noticed that it was up even further today,
Speaker 3: even though the price of Brent has come down. Can
Speaker 3: you just educate us on the time delay? How does
Speaker 3: the pricing work? Because you know, the left will always
Speaker 3: say that the oil companies are conspiring against and you know,
Speaker 3: using fear in the market to you know, price gouge
Speaker 3: us and make a bunch of extra profits.
Speaker 2: What's really going on?
Speaker 13: No, this is just markets. This is supply and demand.
Speaker 9: You know, if you raise your gasoline prices up really
Speaker 9: fast before your cost of crude has gone up, your
Speaker 9: neighbor next door is going to eat your lunch by
Speaker 9: keeping his prices a little bit lower than your prices.
Speaker 9: And gasoline is separate than crude oil. You know, the
Speaker 9: US exports gasoline, we import gasoline. Gasoline is traded all
Speaker 9: around the world. It's very tied to the price of crude,
Speaker 9: but there are times where gasoline prices, you know, trade
Speaker 9: with different time lags and sometimes even different directions than
Speaker 9: crude price. In the long run, they're very tied together,
Speaker 9: but they're separate markets. And the market for diesel is separate,
Speaker 9: and the market for jet fuel is different as well.
Speaker 13: But Andrew.
Speaker 9: One key thing to think of here, we're going through
Speaker 9: a short term dislocation and we are all feeling it.
Speaker 9: The President is keenly aware, I think, as everyone knows
Speaker 9: of gasoline prices and diesel prices and costs for American consumers.
Speaker 13: He is keenly aware.
Speaker 9: In fact, it may seem backwards right now, but this
Speaker 9: war is the large part because of the President's concern
Speaker 9: of energy prices for American consumers over.
Speaker 13: The long run.
Speaker 9: Iran, who has been a threat to oil supplies, Iran
Speaker 9: who's driven the previous price price spikes in the late
Speaker 9: nineteen seventies.
Speaker 13: That was Iran that led to that huge.
Speaker 9: Price bike and the gas lines and all that.
Speaker 13: That was Iran.
Speaker 9: The President seeing, boy, that same nation is arming itself
Speaker 9: massively with missiles so that they can make it so
Speaker 9: hard to attack them that no one will, so they
Speaker 9: can finish building.
Speaker 13: Their nuclear weapons.
Speaker 9: Imagine a nation that's so trouble oriented to have nuclear
Speaker 9: weapons and a massive weapons arsenal.
Speaker 13: They could dictate to the world the price of energy.
Speaker 9: And I think previous presidents were just kicking that can
Speaker 9: down the road.
Speaker 13: Well, it didn't blow up on my watch.
Speaker 9: And that's kind of a risky thing, and they've kicked
Speaker 9: it down. They kicked that can down the road. This
Speaker 9: president's bold. He thinks about American consumers, and he thinks
Speaker 9: long term, that is not a situation the US wants
Speaker 9: to go into.
Speaker 13: They're they're arming themselves so hard right now.
Speaker 9: In the negotiations, they weren't indicating any willingness to not
Speaker 9: be massively armed and ultimate possessors of nuclear weapons. And
Speaker 9: I think he rightly saw this window could close. This
Speaker 9: window could close. They could rain hell on our soldiers
Speaker 9: and make it very hard for US to push back
Speaker 9: on them, and they could dictate global energy prices, and
Speaker 9: that's not tolerable to President Troup.
Speaker 2: Let's talk geopolitics here.
Speaker 3: We saw what happened in Venezuela and that incredible military precision.
Speaker 3: We're all in awe of our military. But that opened
Speaker 3: up a new supply with a cooperative country. Have you
Speaker 3: seen the impacts of that yet? Are we still kind
Speaker 3: of ramping up there?
Speaker 9: Yeah, oil production is rising in Venezuela and we're I'm
Speaker 9: thrilled to see that so quickly, you know, But to
Speaker 9: meaningfully add the global supply, that's sort of six twelve
Speaker 9: eighteen months. It's not many years. We'll see hundreds of
Speaker 9: thousands of barrels a day of additional production out of
Speaker 9: Venezuela before this year is over. Very excited about that,
Speaker 9: and of course, a huge reduction in drug running. It
Speaker 9: was just out of some of the Americas and they
Speaker 9: said the murder rate has plummeted in Trinidad and Tobago
Speaker 9: because of the president's enforcement against running drugs on boats
Speaker 9: in the ocean there north of Venezuela.
Speaker 13: So look, great progress in Venezuela. Great progress.
Speaker 2: Well, that's great to hear. I mean, it seems like
Speaker 2: it could.
Speaker 3: Be the model in a place like Iran, potentially if
Speaker 3: we get a leadership there that's also willing to cooperate.
Speaker 3: I'm skeptical that we're there yet, but obviously that's the
Speaker 3: hope that this would be the last time we'd have
Speaker 3: to deal with a bad actor that's sowing terrorism throughout
Speaker 3: the region. But I mean, could you in theory not
Speaker 3: see regime change and still get the ultimate result that
Speaker 3: we want, which is an end to the conflict, an
Speaker 3: end to the destruction and end to the violence and
Speaker 3: the end of the terrorism, and then a cooperative potential
Speaker 3: partner in that region. Let's talk about potential positive outcomes
Speaker 3: in Iran if you don't see regime change.
Speaker 9: Yes, Look, of course, this operation was not premised on
Speaker 9: regime change. It was premised on they're building up such
Speaker 9: such a daunting supply of missiles that is, shielding a
Speaker 9: nuclear program.
Speaker 13: That's just unacceptable.
Speaker 9: Whoever rules Iran cannot have an impenetrable mass of missiles
Speaker 9: with a nuclear weapons stockpile behind that. So if we
Speaker 9: get a better regime, that would be great. But as
Speaker 9: you said, we might get remnants of the existing regime.
Speaker 9: But they're so defanged in their ability to project power
Speaker 9: to support the terrorist proxy groups around the Middle East
Speaker 9: that they pivot their behavior. How are they going to
Speaker 9: stay in power in their country if they're poorer, if
Speaker 9: they're not as much of a military power, they better
Speaker 9: start to live in a little better lives for their people.
Speaker 9: So we have to degrade their military capacity. That is
Speaker 9: the ultimate job of this mission. But achieving that mission
Speaker 9: may have positive spinoff effects as well.
Speaker 3: So we're told that China gets about seventeen percent of
Speaker 3: its energy from Venezuela and Iran. Right, they were getting
Speaker 3: cut rate prices black market sanctioned oil.
Speaker 2: What explained to the audience.
Speaker 3: What this means from an energy standpoint for the CCP
Speaker 3: and Jijiping. What are the felt impacts here and what
Speaker 3: are the long term impacts.
Speaker 13: Yeah, this is not good news for China.
Speaker 9: Certainly, China has three discount oil suppliers, Venezuela, Iran, and Russia.
Speaker 9: Venezuela is no longer a discount oil supplier to China.
Speaker 9: In fact, most of Venezuela oil flies to the United
Speaker 9: States because it's cheaper to transported here and it all
Speaker 9: sells at market prices, so it's no longer cheap oil
Speaker 9: for China. China's not happy about that. They've they've lost
Speaker 9: a client state in the Western Hemisphere, as has Russia
Speaker 9: and as has Iran. So Venezuela is not just good
Speaker 9: for energy, it's good for geopolitics. So we're thrilled to
Speaker 9: We're thrilled with that development. I'm sure China is very
Speaker 9: concerned about the same thing with Iran. They've been getting
Speaker 9: very discounted Iranian crude and at the end of this, again,
Speaker 9: we don't know who's going to be leading Iran, but
Speaker 9: it will be a different Iran than going into this
Speaker 9: and in Iran with massively shrunk and military capabilities, massively
Speaker 9: shrunken ability to terrorize American soldiers in the region, their neighbors,
Speaker 9: and global oil supplies.
Speaker 13: So yeah, it's this. We're changing the calculus for China
Speaker 13: quite a bit with.
Speaker 9: These two, uh, with these these two changes in posture
Speaker 9: with these two nations.
Speaker 3: So there was in Iran, Yeah, and there was some
Speaker 3: news made that you know, we we kind of offered
Speaker 3: in all of a couple of days worth to Russia.
Speaker 3: What's the logic there of allowing them to more freely
Speaker 3: trade oil? Is it just to bring prices down or
Speaker 3: is there any concern there?
Speaker 13: Yeah?
Speaker 9: No, and so definitely not in all of branch to Russia.
Speaker 9: This was no change in policy towards Russia. Here's how
Speaker 9: China treats its discount oil suppliers. You send your crude
Speaker 9: to us, We'll unload it when we want. We'll let
Speaker 9: it stack up in convoys, having to wait at sea
Speaker 9: for weeks or months at a time, because if we
Speaker 9: knew that, we'll get to buy it from me even cheaper,
Speaker 9: because you'll be desperate. So there's a lot of just
Speaker 9: floating Russian oil it's going to be unloaded at Chinese
Speaker 9: refineries maybe thirty or sixty days from now.
Speaker 13: But yet we have Indian refineries.
Speaker 9: The second biggest importer of oil in the world after
Speaker 9: China is India. So India was going to shut down
Speaker 9: some of their refineries, slow their production of gasoline and diesel,
Speaker 9: which they sell into the global market. That put up
Speaker 9: prices of for gasoline and diesel even here in the
Speaker 9: United States. So we said, hey, we're not changing our
Speaker 9: policy towards Russia, but you know, for thirty days, go
Speaker 9: ahead and buy that Russian crew that's floating offshore, keep
Speaker 9: your refineries open, keep your energy production up, and absorb
Speaker 9: that oil. So it's basically trying to replace or bring
Speaker 9: forward some of these lost barrels that aren't coming out
Speaker 9: of the Straits.
Speaker 13: It is not a change in our policy towards Russia.
Speaker 9: There's a lot of floating Iranian crude off the oceans
Speaker 9: as well. Now, of course we have no change in
Speaker 9: policy for Iran as well. But if for short oil
Speaker 9: and we have pragmatic solutions to bring oil to market,
Speaker 9: you know, we're looking at all of those things. That's
Speaker 9: about protecting American consumers.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, that's that's very good insight. Thank you for that. Actually,
Speaker 3: I think that's an important distinction. People need to understand
Speaker 3: that this has knock on effects for even allies like India.
Speaker 3: Last question here, Secretary, I know your time is tight
Speaker 3: the next steps in this process. I mean, everybody's wondering
Speaker 3: when this is gonna end. I know you don't have
Speaker 3: a crystal ball. When will energy prices come back down?
Speaker 3: When will the price of gas come back down? What's
Speaker 3: your message to the American people?
Speaker 9: So American people is you know, God bless the American troops,
Speaker 9: God blessed President Trump's leadership. The military progress has been tremendous.
Speaker 9: We are massively degrading their ability. You're destroying their missile launchers,
Speaker 9: their missiles themselves, and their fabrication, their factories that build missiles,
Speaker 9: that build drones, that build all these weapons. We're just
Speaker 9: degrading their ability to reign terror on their own citizens,
Speaker 9: on the American soldiers, and on the nations.
Speaker 13: In that region.
Speaker 9: And at the end of this, we want to remove
Speaker 9: Iran's ability not just to threaten the military destruction they've done,
Speaker 9: but also their ability to threaten the flow of energy. Ultimately,
Speaker 9: President Trump is doing this to low were the long
Speaker 9: term cost of energy because the biggest threat to the
Speaker 9: flow of energy around the world is Iran, and Iran
Speaker 9: is going to be defanged. So this is short term
Speaker 9: pain a long term gain.
Speaker 3: Secretary Chris Right at the Department of Energy, you're you know,
Speaker 3: I just want people to understand, he runs the Department
Speaker 3: of Energy, but he has more energy than just about
Speaker 3: anybody I've I've encountered in recent memory, but besides maybe
Speaker 3: President Trump. You know, the President Trump might have more energy,
Speaker 3: but you are an active, creative, energetic force at the
Speaker 3: Department of Energy. So thank you for making the time.
Speaker 3: And I just I think you're you are one of
Speaker 3: the more fascinating.
Speaker 11: Uh.
Speaker 3: There's so many in the admin. We have some we're
Speaker 3: blessed to have such a great administration, but you are
Speaker 3: truly a remarkable, remarkable leader of that department.
Speaker 2: So thank you, sir. We appreciate you taking the time
Speaker 2: and coming on with us today.
Speaker 9: Thanks so much, Andrew, and you have President Trump is
Speaker 9: indeed tireless. I can't quite keep up with him, but
Speaker 9: I'm doing everything I can can to be as close
Speaker 9: as possible to his work ethic and his energy level.
Speaker 2: But yeah, he is.
Speaker 13: He is a freak of nature.
Speaker 2: Thank you, he is. And you're doing a great job.
Speaker 2: So keep up the great work.
Speaker 3: I'm sure you'll get those those that price the pump
Speaker 3: back down soon enough. So God bless you. We'll talk
Speaker 3: with you soon. Thank you again, thanks so much. As
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Speaker 3: I'm excited about our next guest, Doctor Paul Ray. He's
Speaker 3: a professor of history at Hillsdale College. He's the chair
Speaker 3: of the Charles O. Lee and Louis K. Lee Western
Speaker 3: Heritage Center. He's also the director for the Senator Center
Speaker 3: of Military History and Strategy.
Speaker 5: Ooh, that sounds fun, So.
Speaker 2: We want to talk to doctor Paul Ray. Welcome to
Speaker 2: the show. Doctor.
Speaker 3: It's great to have you back. You you are a
Speaker 3: very accomplished gentleman.
Speaker 6: He thank you, and it's good to be back.
Speaker 2: It's great to have you.
Speaker 3: We want to talk about Iran, and again we're approaching
Speaker 3: this as an educational segment. We want people to understand
Speaker 3: Iran better. So what do people need to know about
Speaker 3: the people in the history of Iran better.
Speaker 14: Well, the first thing to understand is the Iranians are
Speaker 14: an ancient nation, very much aware.
Speaker 6: Of themselves as a nation.
Speaker 14: If you look at the Arab world, if you leave
Speaker 14: a side Egypt, none of the countries in the Arab
Speaker 14: world are really countries in the old fashioned sense of
Speaker 14: the word. The Egyptians have always been on their own
Speaker 14: and they have a very powerful understanding of.
Speaker 6: Who they are.
Speaker 14: The rest of the Arabs are part of Islam, and
Speaker 14: there's no Syria, there's no Iraq, so that's a European creation.
Speaker 14: But Iran is a nation. And when Islam came to Iran,
Speaker 14: when they were conquered by the Arabs, they didn't switch
Speaker 14: their language, they didn't go over to the language of
Speaker 14: the Qur'an. They retained Persians. So there was a kind
Speaker 14: of cultural resistance built on a pride in their nation.
Speaker 14: That's extremely important for understanding them. Now if you look
Speaker 14: at recent history in that.
Speaker 6: Part of the world, I mean, look.
Speaker 14: They were a great empire in the sixth century BC.
Speaker 14: It is Iran that was responsible for the Xerxes invasion
Speaker 14: of Greece. If you look at the recent history of Iran,
Speaker 14: it's not been entirely positive. It was a kind of plaything.
Speaker 14: In the nineteenth century the oil in the south, the
Speaker 14: British exploited that very little to the money went to
Speaker 14: the Iranian people. And one consequence of this is the
Speaker 14: Kijar dynasty was overthrown by a general who then became Shaw.
Speaker 14: And it's the Shaw's father, the father of the Shaw.
Speaker 6: That we knew fifty years ago.
Speaker 14: The Pahlavi family took over and his goal was to
Speaker 14: restore the Iranian nation, to restore Persia to its strength,
Speaker 14: and to do that he had to get the Russians
Speaker 14: out they were threatening in the north, and the English
Speaker 14: out of the south. And he tried to play with
Speaker 14: the Germans during World War two was a way of
Speaker 14: getting rid of the English and the Russians, and the
Speaker 14: English and Russians joined together and booted him and put
Speaker 14: his sixteen year olds on the shaw that we once
Speaker 14: knew in power. Now, these two people, the two Paula Vishas,
Speaker 14: had a kind of goal for Iran. Their model was
Speaker 14: Mustapha Camal of the Ottoman Empire and then of Turkey,
Speaker 14: the man who came to be called Ata Turk. And
Speaker 14: what they wanted to do is to bring Iran into
Speaker 14: the twentieth century. So they were major modernizers. At Turk
Speaker 14: succeeded in this, and he was able to succeed in
Speaker 14: this because after World War One, the allies that had
Speaker 14: won that war, the British, the French, the Italians and
Speaker 14: so forth. The Greeks wanted to split up Anatolia among them,
Speaker 14: and he was sent. He had been the hero of
Speaker 14: the Battle of Gallipoli fighting against the British.
Speaker 6: He was sent by the Sultan.
Speaker 14: To disarm the population of Anatolio, and he did the opposite.
Speaker 14: He turned them into an army. He defeated the Greeks,
Speaker 14: drove them out, the Italians of the French and the
Speaker 14: British withdrew, and he created modern Turkey. So he was
Speaker 14: a hero, and as a hero he was able to
Speaker 14: get away with a great deal. And what did he
Speaker 14: try to do well. He tried to push Islam into
Speaker 14: the private sector to create a secular state. He abolished
Speaker 14: the caliphate, which went all the way back to the
Speaker 14: time when Muhammad died. When they set up radio stations
Speaker 14: right in the beginning. Half of the radio announcers in
Speaker 14: the nineteen twenties were women, half of them men. Took
Speaker 14: a long time for Barbara Walters to become an announcer
Speaker 14: in the United States. Think of that difference. In nineteen
Speaker 14: fifty there were more women teaching at Turkish universities than
Speaker 14: an American universities, more women chairing departments in universities than
Speaker 14: in American universities.
Speaker 6: Same thing was true for Egypt. So there was a kind.
Speaker 14: Of modernizing movement that swept the Islamic world Egypt as
Speaker 14: well as Iran. But the Pahlavis weren't heroes. They didn't
Speaker 14: have the advantages he had, and they ran into trouble,
Speaker 14: both from the British and the Russians, as I explained,
Speaker 14: but also from the Mullas, who did not want Turkey
Speaker 14: to be dragged kicking and screaming into the twentieth century.
Speaker 2: Iran, Iran, right, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6: Iran you're actually right.
Speaker 14: So what happens in the fifties and sixties is that
Speaker 14: the younger of the two Shaws achieved some success by
Speaker 14: using the Americans to get the British out.
Speaker 6: Ingements are worked out so.
Speaker 14: That a great deal of the proceeds from the oil
Speaker 14: that came from Iran ended up in the hands of
Speaker 14: the government.
Speaker 6: What did they do.
Speaker 14: They built roads, they built schools, they built hospitals. They
Speaker 14: sent large numbers of Iranian students abroad to study. At
Speaker 14: the time of the Iranian Revolution in nineteen seventy nine,
Speaker 14: there were fifty thousand Iranian students study in the United States,
Speaker 14: and they were buying a great deal for Iran. There
Speaker 14: were fifty thousand Americans living in Tehran, mostly businessmen, selling
Speaker 14: them weapons and everything. You could imagine, this attempt to
Speaker 14: get them rapidly. Moving into the twentieth century upset people.
Speaker 14: A lot of the students who went to the United
Speaker 14: States were radicalized and came back wanting to throw out
Speaker 14: the Shaw. A fair number of them were communists. Then
Speaker 14: there were the rural people who were devout and the Mollahs.
Speaker 14: One of the things that the younger Shaw did was
Speaker 14: called the Green Revolution. He took land away from the
Speaker 14: great landowners, including the Molas, and he distributed among the
Speaker 14: peasants of Iran. So what builds up gradually is a
Speaker 14: kind of explosion. There are two parties.
Speaker 6: To this explosion.
Speaker 14: On the one hand, there's the religious party led by
Speaker 14: the Ayatollahomeni, who was a man of cunning, ruthlessness and eloquence.
Speaker 14: On the other hand, there was a mass of people
Speaker 14: with no particular direction and no particular leader, the people
Speaker 14: from the leading families in Tehran, the younger people, and
Speaker 14: the ones who had studied in the United States. The
Speaker 14: consequence is when the crisis came in nineteen seventy nine,
Speaker 14: Homiani managed to fool the urban population, this modernizing population,
Speaker 14: into thinking that they could live with him perfectly. Well,
Speaker 14: the revolution takes place, the shot is pushed out.
Speaker 6: He was a.
Speaker 14: Dying man at that time, dying of cancer, and Homeni
Speaker 14: then edges out the urban population and he establishes something
Speaker 14: like a totalitarian regime. The other day, I gave a
Speaker 14: talk here at Hillsdale College on this, and I woke
Speaker 14: up in the morning and I asked myself, I wonder
Speaker 14: if there are commissars in the Revolutionary guard and in
Speaker 14: the Iranian Army, that is to say, political officers.
Speaker 6: In Russia. This was the people from the.
Speaker 14: Party who watched over the military guys, watched over all
Speaker 14: of the officers, and I went to Ai, that source
Speaker 14: of great wisdom, and on this occasion it really was
Speaker 14: a source of wisdom because it provided very good detail
Speaker 14: on this. And yes, there are commissars in the Iranian Army.
Speaker 14: So this is a regime of surveillance in which the
Speaker 14: guardians are surveilled also by Mullahs who serve as political officers.
Speaker 14: They can arrest anyone of the officers of the military officers.
Speaker 14: They can reverse any decision that a military officer makes.
Speaker 6: This is quite.
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Speaker 3: As Blake mentioned earlier, it is the six month anniversary
Speaker 3: of us. I don't call it an anniversary, It's a
Speaker 3: six month mark of losing Charlie, and the team has
Speaker 3: a tribute video in honor of the great Charlie Kirk,
Speaker 3: our friend. We wanted to play it for you. Play
Speaker 3: cut ten.
Speaker 1: This is why your faith is the most important thing.
Speaker 1: You are commanded to go do something productive with your life.
Speaker 1: You are not commanded to go sit idly by and
Speaker 1: just receive. You are commanded to go give and to produce,
Speaker 1: and to risk to then go so into other people.
Speaker 1: That is a biblical idea that has made the world
Speaker 1: a profoundly better place. We must put God first in
Speaker 1: everything that we do. We are nothing here but just
Speaker 1: for a short instant, short little glimpse. We act not
Speaker 1: out of outcome, but we act out of obedience. Everybody,
Speaker 1: this was not earned. You guys were a vessel. We
Speaker 1: were a vessel. Psalm one, oh seven to one, Oh
Speaker 1: give thanks to the Lord, for he is good or
Speaker 1: his steadfast love endures forever.
Speaker 10: I have to say this without getting emotional, but I'm
Speaker 10: very proud of my husband.
Speaker 11: You are so intentional with your faith and you are
Speaker 11: so intentional with just how you are as a father
Speaker 11: and a husband.
Speaker 1: Becoming a father has made me, first of all, understand
Speaker 1: that what I'm fighting for is beyond even yourself. We
Speaker 1: do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities
Speaker 1: and darkness and spirits, because at its core, what we
Speaker 1: are fighting is a spiritual battle. And if you're here
Speaker 1: and you don't believe in God, okay, fine, I'll pray
Speaker 1: for you, and I hope you find Jesus Christ as
Speaker 1: your Lord and savior because it will.
Speaker 11: Change your life.
Speaker 13: How do you want to be remembered.
Speaker 1: I want to be remembered for courage from my faith.
Speaker 2: That would be the most important thing.
Speaker 5: The most important thing is my faith in my life.
Speaker 2: We miss you, Charlie.
Speaker 3: Six months doesn't feel real still six months almost exactly. Yeah,
Speaker 3: lost him on September tenth, and it is March tenth.
Speaker 2: So here's to you, Charlie, and.
Speaker 3: We had to play it. This is his show. It
Speaker 3: will always be his show, So blake any thoughts, you
Speaker 3: know it's.
Speaker 5: Eric has said that if Charlie was given the choice
Speaker 5: to undo what happened and come back, he wouldn't. She
Speaker 5: thought because of what was unleashed by it. I like
Speaker 5: to I've gone a couple of times in the last
Speaker 5: week or so where we have one of the buildings
Speaker 5: here on the on the campus is just all of
Speaker 5: the male packages gifts. Yeah, we've received or that people
Speaker 5: have left outside the campus, which we still encourage people
Speaker 5: to come. We still see people there. So if you're
Speaker 5: passing through Phoenix, stop by. We'd love to see people
Speaker 5: make a visit. Uh But I look at that and
Speaker 5: you know, we still get the emails as well, you know,
Speaker 5: people talking about they started going to church because of Charlie,
Speaker 5: they kept going to church because of Charlie.
Speaker 2: Some of them.
Speaker 5: We even get ones where they say, I'm not really
Speaker 5: sure if I believe God exists, but I'm still going
Speaker 5: because Charlie said too. And you know, we want to
Speaker 5: encourage that, you know, leave your heart open. And we've
Speaker 5: seen so many cases of that, and I think Charlie
Speaker 5: would even say, like, if you know, if it would
Speaker 5: help one other person come to Christ, you know, my martyrdom,
Speaker 5: you know, it would be worth it. And we're not
Speaker 5: seeing it's not one person, it's it's hundreds thousands, you know,
Speaker 5: maybe around the world. Yeah, you know, hundreds of millions,
Speaker 5: because it is a true it truly did have a
Speaker 5: global impact.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 5: And it's also true that because because of what happened
Speaker 5: to him, we never have to see we never have
Speaker 5: to see Charlie lose his fastball. We never have to
Speaker 5: see Charlie get old, become you know, become tired. He's
Speaker 5: always as he was. He's I would have loved that brave.
Speaker 5: He's that brave young hero going out onto the campuses
Speaker 5: speaking to young people, reaching young people. And we'll always
Speaker 5: have that example.
Speaker 3: Even Doctor Ray, I know you're hanging in there. Maybe
Speaker 3: a little pivot on the six month mark of losing Charlie.
Speaker 3: You're a historian. What did what did Charlie's contribution and
Speaker 3: what happened? What did it mean historically? What in the
Speaker 3: whole scheme of things? What does it mean to you?
Speaker 14: Well, he started something, and he was sufficiently a force
Speaker 14: that I don't think it's simply going to stop. I mean, like,
Speaker 14: you know, you're continuing his show. I was on his
Speaker 14: show when he was still with us, back in July
Speaker 14: and August a couple of times, and I was struck
Speaker 14: by his energy, his sincerity, his open mindedness. He was
Speaker 14: interested in listening as well as in talking. But the
Speaker 14: other thing is he was a young man who moved
Speaker 14: a great many people. And I don't think that's going
Speaker 14: to stop. And obviously you don't think it's going to stop,
Speaker 14: or you wouldn't be continuing.
Speaker 6: The Charlie Kirk Show.
Speaker 2: Correct.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And he enjoyed his conversations with you, doctor. I
Speaker 3: know that you bring a wealth. I literally was sitting
Speaker 3: here the whole time just you provided context to the
Speaker 3: Middle East that I was not aware of, between the
Speaker 3: Turks and the Egyptians and the Iranians. And and he
Speaker 3: loved learning. He loved That's why he loved Hillsdale. You know,
Speaker 3: he called it the beacon of the North America's greatest
Speaker 3: university's college. And you guys are continuing that on and
Speaker 3: we're continuing to work with you guys, and we're continuing
Speaker 3: to work with doctor arn and we just really appreciate
Speaker 3: your perspective. I know this was a pivot that I
Speaker 3: didn't pref I didn't prepare you for, doctor, but you've
Speaker 3: you've handled it brilliantly. And it's a credit to Hillsdale
Speaker 3: College that you are part of their faculty, and you
Speaker 3: guys can all learn from the great professors at Hillsdale.
Speaker 3: Go to Charlie for Hillsdale's I didn't you know, it's
Speaker 3: not why we had doctor ray On.
Speaker 2: We wanted to learn about the history of the region.
Speaker 3: But check it out because Hillsdale is one of these
Speaker 3: institutions that makes America so special. It preserves it's like
Speaker 3: salt that you preserve these great ideas is for another generation.
Speaker 3: So check it out. Charlie for Hillsdale. Final word to you, Professor.
Speaker 6: Ray Okay, I'll tell you a story.
Speaker 14: I spent some years in Turkey eighty four to eighty six,
Speaker 14: and I went back there in two thousand and two
Speaker 14: met a group of Turkish journalists, one of Iranian journalists
Speaker 14: with them, and at that time there were pro American
Speaker 14: demonstrations at soccer games by just people doing it, chanting
Speaker 14: in favor of America, and I thought, maybe this is
Speaker 14: the time the revolution is going to go under And
Speaker 14: I asked the Turkish the Iranian journalist, and he said no.
Speaker 14: The people who handle security in Iran were graduate students
Speaker 14: in Eastern Europe and the communist period. They know how
Speaker 14: to handle the crowd. And then he added, what they
Speaker 14: don't know how to handle this their own children. There
Speaker 14: will be a counter revolution in are, Ronnie said, but
Speaker 14: it's going to take some time.
Speaker 6: Mm hmm oh, well, some time.
Speaker 14: Has passed, but maybe not enough time.
Speaker 6: We will see in the next few.
Speaker 3: Weeks, doctor Ray, Professor Ray, thank you so much for
Speaker 3: your time.
Speaker 6: Pleasure to be with you again.
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