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Speaker 3: All right, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. It is

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Speaker 3: March tenth, twenty twenty six. Welcome Blake, Howdy, it's that

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Speaker 3: time again. Lots to get to you. We got a

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Speaker 3: to get into it actually with Senator Kennedy as well.

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Speaker 3: It comes from Oyl State Louisiana.

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Speaker 2: And then we.

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Speaker 3: Have Professor Ray from Hillsdale College gonna give us a

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Speaker 3: whole history of Iran in that region, what this conflict

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Speaker 3: really means for that. So lots of educating today, lots

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Speaker 3: there's a lot of short term push and pool you're

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Speaker 3: I mean, I kind of liken this too. You know,

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Speaker 3: we live in historic times, Blake, where you could make

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Speaker 4: At this stage, I can confirm that the RCMP is

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Speaker 5: All right, use picture of the Canadian Mounty is like

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Speaker 2: What could the motive be? So? Yeah, so this is

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Speaker 3: Right, they won't say that it was a Muslim guy

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 3: But President Trump told some reporters last night that the

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Speaker 2: Now. The markets loved this.

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Speaker 3: The Dow Jones was down all day yesterday when shooting

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Speaker 2: Way that he put this. So let's make sure.

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Speaker 5: He said it's very complete, but also just beginning, which

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Speaker 5: I think, And then a reporter asked him about it,

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Speaker 3: The words of Charlie? The unpredictability is the point. But

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Speaker 5: You called it an excursion. You said it would be

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Speaker 6: To days?

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Speaker 7: I think so okay, very soon. Look, everything they have

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Speaker 7: Most people have never even heard about the leaders that

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Speaker 3: So yeah, to Blake's point, I think, you know, we

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Speaker 5: It seems he could possibly even declare victory while still

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Speaker 3: I actually think there is a strategic brilliance to this though. Actually,

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Speaker 3: I think the President understands that the Navy has been

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Speaker 3: The real question, though, is at what point, from a

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Speaker 2: His son was killed. He must ain't killilled.

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Speaker 5: No one has seen him yet. He might be a

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Speaker 5: to hope that's true. I think it will be politically

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Speaker 3: What's going on in Iran, How are you feeling about it?

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Speaker 8: I don't want America to be the worlds policeman, but

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Speaker 8: I'm not going to repeat it. This is a limited intervention.

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Speaker 6: And then the good people, and they.

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Speaker 8: Does it necessarily mean regime change? I don't know, guys.

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Speaker 6: Let me say it again.

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Speaker 3: I think that's so well said. And the title of

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Speaker 2: By Senator John Kennedy. Everybody check it out.

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Speaker 3: Senator, you did the country a great service, and I'll

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Speaker 8: You're testifying that President Trump approved this ahead of time.

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Speaker 10: Yes, sir, we went through the legal processes, did it?

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Speaker 2: Senator Obviously that interaction led to.

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Speaker 6: Look, I accept for responsibility for that. That was me.

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Speaker 8: Nobody put me up to it, Nobody asked me to

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Speaker 8: and her team implemented his policies. But there are management

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Speaker 8: problems at the Department of Homeland Security.

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Speaker 6: I only got to talk about two of.

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Speaker 8: Them in the limited time I had, But there are others,

447
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Speaker 8: and they are distracting and we're distracting from President Trump's

448
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Speaker 8: agenda and our agenda to make this country better. Number two,

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Speaker 8: A quarter of a billion, not a million, quarter of

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Speaker 8: a billion dollars to run ads in which the secretary starred.

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Speaker 8: To me, they looked like political ads. Quarter of a

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Speaker 8: billion dollars and apparently they weren't bid out, and they

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Speaker 8: allegedly went to.

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Speaker 6: Friends of hers.

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Speaker 8: Consider that spending porn the President didn't approve it. I'm

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Speaker 8: gonna call out spending porn every single time, doesn't matter

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Speaker 8: who doesn't. And you can write that down and take

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Speaker 8: it home to Mama. And if somebody gets upset about that,

459
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Speaker 8: they need to fill out a hurt feelings report because

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Speaker 8: I'm gonna keep doing it. And that's all that it

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Speaker 8: was to it. It wasn't some deep dark agenda. It

462
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Speaker 8: was meet my doing. Some liked it, some didn't. But

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Speaker 8: I will tell you this, I've seen President Trump mad before,

464
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Speaker 8: but this time, as I said the other day, he

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Speaker 8: was mad as a murder hornet.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Well, interesting background that you were probably not aware of.

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Speaker 3: We spent the whole day before the announcement was made

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Speaker 3: that there was gonna be a change of leadership calling

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Speaker 3: this out. And why it was so important was because

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Speaker 3: the Democrats have known about this stuff and they were

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Speaker 3: waiting to pounce. And if they get power in after

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Speaker 3: the mid terms, god forbid, they were going to use

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Speaker 3: this against the President and you. So you did the

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Speaker 3: nation of service, and I'll prove it to you. Here's

476
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Speaker 3: Jamie Raskin in the House cut.

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Speaker 11: One investigation into the hundreds of millions of dollars that

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Speaker 11: Secretary Nome channeled to various political friends and intimates of hers,

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Speaker 11: so that that money can be reclaimed for the American people.

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Speaker 11: Hundreds of millions of dollars might be a joke to

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Speaker 11: somebody in the Trump cabinet, but it's not a joke

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Speaker 11: to the American people.

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Speaker 3: And I've been hearing rumors, Senator that they were going

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Speaker 3: to use these for impeachment, maybe impeachment of Nome, maybe

485
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Speaker 3: impeachment of President Trump. So you getting ahead of this

486
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Speaker 3: did a great service to the country, and I genuinely

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Speaker 3: thank you for it. And it's no disrespect for some

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Speaker 3: of the achievements, but yeah, we'd have been here in

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Speaker 3: rumblings ourselves, and so I think you did a really

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Speaker 3: great thing and it showed a lot of courage. So

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Speaker 3: the question is you had you had a hearing this

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Speaker 3: morning where somebody was saying that the judges, the judicial

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Speaker 3: activists that are fighting ICE and deportations are braver than

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Speaker 3: our ICE agents, and you you said that that guy

495
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Speaker 3: triggered your gag reflex. I thought it was another brilliant line.

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Speaker 3: Tell us what success looks like at DHS deportations. It's

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Speaker 3: one of the central planks of the President's agenda.

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Speaker 8: Legal immigration is legal illegal immigration, you see I legal?

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Speaker 6: Uh duh.

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Speaker 8: Our immigration laws are not some second tier statutes that

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Speaker 8: people can violate without consequence. We need to enforce our

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Speaker 8: immigration laws. Number two. How you enforce the matters, they

503
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Speaker 8: have to be enforced in accordance with due process, with

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Speaker 8: equal protection, uh, in accordance with the standards set forth

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Speaker 8: for reasonable suspicion in the Supreme.

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Speaker 6: Court case of Terry Vill Ohio.

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Speaker 8: If you want to protest them, you have every right

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Speaker 8: as an American. You do not have the right to

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Speaker 8: protest violently. Violence undermines the morality of what you say

510
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Speaker 8: your movement stands for. Gandhi knew that doctor King knew

511
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Speaker 8: that Mandela knew that protesting violently is also exquisitely stupid.

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Speaker 6: You're going to get hurt.

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Speaker 8: Most cops that I know, the vast majority, will leave

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Speaker 8: you alone unless you do illegal stuff. And then if

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Speaker 8: you do illegal stuff, they're going to enforce the law.

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Speaker 8: That also seems to me to be a matter of

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Speaker 8: common sense. I think Mark Wayne will bring some common

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Speaker 8: sense back. I think Mark Wayne trusts Tom Holand, who

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Speaker 8: I think has done an admirable job.

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Speaker 6: I think he will be firm.

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Speaker 8: I think he will be fair, and I think he

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Speaker 8: will be confirmed by the United States Senate. I think

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Speaker 8: the President has chosen him well. He's tough as a

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Speaker 8: pine knot, and I hope he gets you confirmed quickly.

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Speaker 3: Senator, one last question for you, and I know you

526
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Speaker 3: got to run here. There is some rumors of what

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Speaker 3: if any sort of deals could be made with these

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Speaker 3: blue jurisdictions, the sanctuary cities and sanctuary states, and to

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Speaker 3: get them to cooperate. Some people have mentioned that we

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Speaker 3: might have to offer up a pathway for dhaka.

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Speaker 2: Recipients or something.

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Speaker 3: Right, these are things that are going to grade against

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Speaker 3: the base the people in this audience. Do you feel

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Speaker 3: like some sort of deal needs to be made in

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Speaker 3: that way or is that what they're going to demand?

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Speaker 3: How can we get the Democrats to even fund DHS.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of questions here, but is there anything

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Speaker 3: that you'd be willing I know you're not the secretary,

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Speaker 3: but is there anything that you'd be willing to offer

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Speaker 3: up in exchange for getting them to cooperate with ice detainers?

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Speaker 8: Don't I don't think there's anything we can't offer up.

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Speaker 8: I wouldn't support, offering them up anything. Most of these

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Speaker 8: people believe in open borders. They believe in They are

544
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Speaker 8: also the ones who told us to defund the police.

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Speaker 8: We've seen that vampire movie. We know how it turns out.

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Speaker 8: They also that now they want to defund ice. That's

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Speaker 8: ultimately what this is all about. You can't reasonable people

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Speaker 8: like that. If if I were king for a day,

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Speaker 8: I'm not, don't aspire to be, I would. I would

550
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Speaker 8: use every legal mechanism I could to withhold their money,

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Speaker 8: because what they're doing refusing to enforce federal law, not

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Speaker 8: changing it.

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Speaker 6: They are just.

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Speaker 8: They think they're smarter and more virtuous than the American people,

555
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Speaker 8: and can and can pick and shoes among which of

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Speaker 8: our laws they think are just or unjust.

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Speaker 6: I would withhold their money.

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Speaker 8: Many of these people, many of these people think America

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Speaker 8: was wicked when it was founded, and it's more wicked today.

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Speaker 6: I don't know, not all of them, but many of

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Speaker 6: them do that.

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Speaker 8: They're they're they're they're they're king of the hill, top

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Speaker 8: of the lists.

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Speaker 6: Crazy. I'm sorry, but that's the way it is.

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Speaker 8: And I don't think anything we offer them will get

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Speaker 8: them to change their minds Now, It's not all my, my, my,

567
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Speaker 8: my Democratic friends, but there's some of others are just

568
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Speaker 8: scared guys. The Karen wing of the Democratic Party wants

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Speaker 8: to defund ice, and the Karen wing of the Democratic

570
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Speaker 8: Party has told all all the elected officials who happen

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Speaker 8: to be Democrats that if they don't do their best

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Speaker 8: to defund ice, they the Karen wing will will punish

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Speaker 8: them the rest of their natural lives. And they're scared.

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Speaker 2: I think you're right.

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Speaker 3: The radical left wing fringe of the Democrat Party or

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Speaker 3: the progressive coal controls the party. And sometimes I wonder

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Speaker 3: about our own side.

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Speaker 2: Senator. You know, we're talking about this.

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Speaker 3: Everybody wants to Save America Act Pact passed, and it

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Speaker 3: seems like I just we can't make any progress on it,

581
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Speaker 3: and this audience is frustrated by that.

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Speaker 2: I'm frustrated.

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Speaker 8: Well, I think you'll see some progress soon. I support

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Speaker 8: the Save the Act. I'm a co sponsor. Here's what

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Speaker 8: I think we ought to do. I think I'm in

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Speaker 8: the minority. The short way home here is a reconciliation.

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Speaker 8: If we do do it, the reconciliation, we only need

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Speaker 8: fifty one votes. Some of my colleagues say, Kennedy, you

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Speaker 8: know that's crazy. It'll never never pass muster under the

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Speaker 8: Budget Controlled Actor, which is one of the parameters on

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Speaker 8: your ability to do something to reconciliation.

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Speaker 6: There's what I say.

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Speaker 8: Look, I've seen things pass muster under the under reconciliation

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Speaker 8: and what we call the bird Bath that I never

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Speaker 8: thought had a chance. And I've seen other things that

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Speaker 8: I thought were slam don't get turned down. Uh if

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Speaker 8: if if I were king for a day, I'm not,

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Speaker 8: but I would go hire the best legal minds I

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Speaker 8: could find for us to craft a provision around the

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Speaker 8: Save Act that would pass muster under the Budget Control

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Speaker 8: Act and and would survive a bird bath. And I

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Speaker 8: would take our shot. And I don't know why we

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Speaker 8: haven't done that.

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Speaker 6: We could have done it weeks ago.

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Speaker 8: I'm not criticizing anybody, but that's just the way I

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Speaker 8: would do.

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Speaker 3: It, Senator John Kennedy, Thank you so much, sir, And

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Speaker 3: again your book. I want to make sure I get

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Speaker 3: How to test negative for stupid and why Washington never

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Speaker 3: will Uh God bless you again, sir for your your

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Speaker 3: your questioning, your honest questioning I think you did the

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Speaker 3: nation of a tremendous service, and thank you for articulating

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Speaker 3: the vision I think that you have that the President

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Speaker 3: shares in Iran.

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Speaker 2: I think it's the right one. So God bless you guys.

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Speaker 6: For good man, I'll listen to you all the time.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you, sir, God bless you folks.

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Speaker 5: Well, I'm sure a lot of you already know, and

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Speaker 5: remember today is six months since what happened to Charlie,

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Speaker 5: and one of the concerns we all have is making

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Speaker 5: sure that the man who killed him is convicted. And

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Speaker 5: one thing we're all becoming much more aware of is

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Speaker 5: the potential for our jury system to be a weak

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Speaker 5: point in making sure that criminals are held to account

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Speaker 5: for what they do. And so there was a piece

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Speaker 5: yesterday in the Washington Freebeacon. They do a lot of

651
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Speaker 5: great work about this fact that there is a left

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Speaker 5: wing group training activists on how to undermine the jury system.

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Speaker 5: And so we have the reporter who wrote that, Pisa

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Speaker 5: Thomas Cadanacci. Are you there, Thomas, I'm here, Hey, welcome

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Speaker 5: to the program. So this group Freedom Trainers, why don't

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Speaker 5: you just tell us what they're doing, what they're telling people,

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Speaker 5: and what the ramifications of this would be.

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Speaker 12: Absolutely well, I really appreciate you having me on, first

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Speaker 12: of all to talk about this, because I think it's

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Speaker 12: such an important issue and it's certainly something that's going

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Speaker 12: under the radar. So also just at the forefront, I

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Speaker 12: want to say, this is something that I had to

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Speaker 12: do multiple double takes on because I couldn't believe what

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Speaker 12: I was coming across when I was researching this. Essentially,

665
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Speaker 12: there's a group based in DC that it's focused on

666
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Speaker 12: DC right now, but it could clearly be something that

667
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Speaker 12: spreads across the country, and perhaps it has. But what

668
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:55,760
Speaker 12: we see is they're working in DC to undermine Trump

669
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Speaker 12: DOJ prosecutions that are taking place in the DC the

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Speaker 12: Attorney's office. And so what the group does is essentially

671
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Speaker 12: educate members of the jury or themselves, try to infiltrate

672
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Speaker 12: juries and went on there. They vote quote in favor

673
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Speaker 12: of their conscience, not in favor of the law, and

674
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Speaker 12: obviously this has a number of ramifications. One thing I

675
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Speaker 12: just want to say, also off off the start, is

676
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Speaker 12: you know, the the DJ itself is not early an

677
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Speaker 12: agency that often comments on things like this, But I

678
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 12: thought it was very telling that after we reached out,

679
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Speaker 12: they did want to comment, and they gave a pretty

680
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 12: forceful response to our reporting here, saying that they're aware

681
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Speaker 12: and that they're you know, anyone who engages in this

682
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Speaker 12: type of activism should be held accountable.

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Speaker 5: Is there a way to hold them accountable? Because I

684
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Speaker 5: suppose what seems like a vulnerability here is, as they

685
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Speaker 5: point out, it basically is legal to do this to

686
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Speaker 5: decide you get on a jury and just decide I'm

687
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Speaker 5: not going to convey for any reason whatsoever. Now, as

688
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Speaker 5: your piece points out, judges and lawyers will attempt to

689
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Speaker 5: remove such people. But all their training materials here are

690
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Speaker 5: basically how to sneak onto a jury so that you

691
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Speaker 5: can rig the verdict correct exactly.

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Speaker 12: And so one thing I will know is in their

693
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Speaker 12: training materials and in their webinars which I attended, they

694
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Speaker 12: say that there are sort of unambiguously legal maneuvers that

695
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Speaker 12: you can take, such as you know, quote educating the

696
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Speaker 12: public in the way that they're doing handing out flyers

697
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Speaker 12: in near courthouses. That appears to be one of the

698
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Speaker 12: main things they do. They camp outside of courthouses during

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Speaker 12: jury selection and try to give pamphlets to prospective jurors.

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Speaker 12: And those pamphlets, which I also obtained, will have all

701
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Speaker 12: sorts of different, uh you know, legal rationales to try

702
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Speaker 12: to help jurors you know, vote again their conscience. But

703
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Speaker 12: in addition to the unambiguously legal that they say, there

704
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Speaker 12: are the quote legal but risky. This is where the

705
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Speaker 12: duj could potentially step in the legal but risky are

706
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Speaker 12: things like discussing this process with jurors before deliberations begin.

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Speaker 12: This is something that's almost certainly happening. But again, no

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Speaker 12: one's been caught doing this or publicly stating that you

709
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Speaker 12: intend to nullify. That's something that they again they say

710
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Speaker 12: is legal but risky. I highly doubt that people who

711
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Speaker 12: want to thwart a duj prosecution are going to just

712
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Speaker 12: come out and openly say it. But it's that first

713
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Speaker 12: point discussing nullification with jurors, especially in the process of

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Speaker 12: giving out one of these pamphlets and you know, quote

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Speaker 12: educating that could be a potential hurdle for them in

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Speaker 12: the future.

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Speaker 2: You know what just reminds me of is like you

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Speaker 2: know those jurists on the the on the jurors rather

719
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Speaker 2: on the O. J.

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Speaker 3: Simpson trial that were just like they some of them

721
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Speaker 3: admitted afterwards that they they knew he was guilty, but

722
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Speaker 3: they just were it was a get back for Ryan King.

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Speaker 5: And it's there's a lot of other cases, if you know,

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Speaker 5: every prosecutor in a big city has seen it happen

725
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Speaker 5: where this and it's a vulnerability because you need the

726
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Speaker 5: Supreme Court actually confirmed in a case recently, you need

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Speaker 5: unanimity of twelve jurors to convict in a criminal case,

728
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Speaker 5: and you only need one holdout of those twelve to

729
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Speaker 5: have a hung jury. And you know, it's difficult to

730
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Speaker 5: bring a trial, it's time consuming to do a trial.

731
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Speaker 5: You have to start over if there's a hung jury.

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Speaker 5: And that's what they're telling people in these materials. If

733
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Speaker 5: you you only need to be that one holdout, and

734
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Speaker 5: you can just say I'm not gonna convict, I'm not convinced,

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Speaker 5: I'm voting not guilty, and you can blow up the

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Speaker 5: whole case. And we were seeing this over and over

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Speaker 5: with the grand juries, they're not indicting cases the federal

738
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Speaker 5: government's bringing. But you only need one of these people

739
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Speaker 5: in the Luigi Manngoni case. You might only need one

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Speaker 5: of these people in the Tyler Robinson case.

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Speaker 2: And it's it's scary.

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Speaker 12: It's giving people the opportunity, people, people who might have

743
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Speaker 12: been activists before. It's giving them that sort of like

744
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 12: quote unquote legal backing to go ahead and thwart an

745
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Speaker 12: entire prosecution, regardless of the evidence, and regardless of the

746
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Speaker 12: fact that the system, the justice system in the US,

747
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Speaker 12: which we all love, is built on that idea of fairness,

748
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Speaker 12: and so if people try to undermine that, that could

749
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Speaker 12: undermine the American public's confidence in the system itself. Also,

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Speaker 12: just give you a few examples. There was the case

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Speaker 12: in DC of the sandwich man who threw a subway

752
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 12: sandwich at a National Guard member and the grand jury

753
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:41,799
Speaker 12: failed to indict. And this group and their webinars really

754
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Speaker 12: seems to suggest that this was a case of people

755
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Speaker 12: who are on the jury who didn't really care about

756
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Speaker 12: the evidence. They go through this in detail, you know,

757
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Speaker 12: asking the participants of their webinars about you know, if

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Speaker 12: you were on the jury, what would your excuse be

759
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Speaker 12: for voting against indictment in this case? And they all

760
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Speaker 12: kind of list their examples, and then you know, the

761
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Speaker 12: trainer gets up there and says, well, you can really

762
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Speaker 12: give whatever or no explanation for your vote. You can

763
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Speaker 12: just simply vote against if you agree with the guy

764
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Speaker 12: who assaulted the member of the National Guard. And so

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Speaker 12: that that's one example, and I think that there's going

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Speaker 12: to be multiple of these. They also cite the case of,

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Speaker 12: you know, there was the case of six members of

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Speaker 12: Congress who you know, put out a video saying that

769
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Speaker 12: members of the military should in many cases reject and

770
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Speaker 12: turn down orders from Trump himself. And those six members

771
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Speaker 12: of Congress we were not indicted because a grand jury

772
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Speaker 12: decided that there was not enough evidence in that case.

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Speaker 12: So there are these examples, and they're happening, and you know,

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Speaker 12: my personal fear when I see this stuff is that

775
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 12: you know, it will spread to you know, the Tyler

776
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 12: Robins and trial, it will spread to the Luigi MANGEONI,

777
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Speaker 12: it will spread to a number of other trials. You know,

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Speaker 12: I'm actually an energy reporter, and one thing I've done

779
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Speaker 12: is report on climate cases in which you know, states

780
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Speaker 12: and cities accuse the biggest oil companies of causing climate change.

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Speaker 12: And these are cases where billions of.

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Speaker 2: Dollars are at stake.

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Speaker 12: So if you get one, you know jury that with

784
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 12: a couple of people on there who are activists and

785
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 12: don't really care about the law, they could actually with

786
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Speaker 12: their vote, you know, really damage the economy by destroying

787
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Speaker 12: the oil companies who are probably falsely being accused of

788
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Speaker 12: causing weather events, you know, like hurricanes. And so I

789
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 12: think there's there's really a large impact that this could.

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Speaker 6: Have moving forward.

791
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Speaker 2: You got to give it to lefties.

792
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Speaker 5: They are so very or organized in being very evil.

793
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: They they constantly open up new fronts in the assault

795
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Speaker 3: on Western civilization.

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Speaker 5: And I'll be frank, I think I don't want to

797
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 5: soft pedal this. This is one of the things that

798
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:15,799
Speaker 5: frightens me the most. I've been thinking about it, you know,

799
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 5: coming up for a long time that this is this

800
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Speaker 5: is a weakness in our system because it is in

801
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Speaker 5: the constitution that you need a jury verdict to convict

802
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:26,920
Speaker 5: somebody of a crime. It is something that's been around

803
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 5: in the Anglo legal system for a very long time.

804
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Speaker 5: And if you have you know, complete polarization a long

805
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 5: political lines or along racial lines. Where you can't assemble

806
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 5: twelve people to consistently convict someone on any crime that

807
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 5: has racial valance or political valance, the country's going to

808
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 5: fly apart. And this has happened before in I believe

809
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 5: Ireland under the British there would be terrorist attacks on

810
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 5: like British officials and like juries would just not convict

811
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 5: and so they basically had to revoke the right to

812
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Speaker 5: a jury trial in Ireland to make sure they could

813
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 5: convict people of crimes. In Britain. Right now they're trying

814
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:06,400
Speaker 5: to revoke the right to a jury trial for any

815
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Speaker 5: crime with a sentence of under three years. They're just

816
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 5: the general decay of their system. And so this is

817
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 5: a very judges judged and yeah, we have judge problems.

818
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 5: And this is a right that has been so integral

819
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:24,719
Speaker 5: to American civilization Western Anglo civilization for so long and

820
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Speaker 5: now we're seeing it being used to further tear it down.

821
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the left go back. I mean, it's

822
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 3: probably dates back further than that, but you know, you

823
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Speaker 3: see the rise of critical theory in the in the

824
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 3: law schools going back to the nineteen eighties. They've identified

825
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 3: our judicial system and our criminal justice system as a

826
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Speaker 3: point of weakness for a long time that they're looking

827
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Speaker 3: to exploit. You know, it makes you think of the

828
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Speaker 3: John Adams quote. You know that the our founding documents

829
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Speaker 3: are only you know, good for moral and upright people, right,

830
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Speaker 3: they're wholly inadequate for any there any other. So it

831
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 3: makes you nervous when you see the degradation of our

832
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 3: people that then filter into the system that we need

833
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:10,239
Speaker 3: to function correctly. Final words here, we got to get

834
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Speaker 3: ready for our two here in Secretary Chris Wright, who's

835
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Speaker 3: coming up next, but the floor is yours to wrap

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Speaker 3: up this this Yeah.

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Speaker 12: I'll just think three quick points here. At number one,

838
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 12: this group Freedom Trainers is housed at a larger, pretty

839
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Speaker 12: major nonprofit called Community Change. Community Change is funded by

840
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Speaker 12: kind of all the usual suspects, Rockefellers, the Arabella Network,

841
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 12: Open Society, which is George Soros's network, and then Hansuergweeze's

842
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:47,840
Speaker 12: network as well, who's another foreign billionaire influencing American politics.

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Speaker 12: Number two, they say they've already trained hundreds of thousands

844
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Speaker 12: of people, which is a little alarming. And number three,

845
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Speaker 12: I will say that. One of the leaders of this

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Speaker 12: group and someone named Maria Stephen. She was on The

847
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 12: Colbert Show recently as a sort of what he described

848
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:13,360
Speaker 12: as a non resistance or a non violence resistance scholar,

849
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Speaker 12: whatever that means, and she talked about the dangers of

850
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Speaker 12: ICE and how ICE officers can again reject orders from

851
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 12: their higher ups in their course.

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Speaker 6: Of doing business.

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Speaker 12: So those are kind of three points I wanted to

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Speaker 12: make to kind of show people how prevalent this is

855
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Speaker 12: right now and how really we need to start becoming

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Speaker 12: more aware of this.

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Speaker 3: Those are really salient points, So thank you for adding those.

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Speaker 3: You got to believe that there's got to be some

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Speaker 3: law that these people have triggered that we can prosecute.

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Speaker 5: It's using really hit the historic strengths of our system

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Speaker 5: against it.

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Speaker 3: Oh it's kind of like immigration. H Yeah, kind of

863
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:59,319
Speaker 3: like our compassion or openness. Thank you so much. This

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Speaker 3: is super fascinating, terrifying, but important for us to go through.

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Speaker 3: So thank you for making the time. And sorry the

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Speaker 3: schedule got pushed back.

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Speaker 2: A little bit there. Awesome. Keep up the great work.

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Speaker 5: The online world moves fast, and it's moving even faster

869
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 5: these days. That's why TikTok approaches teen safety with families

870
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:24,399
Speaker 5: in mind from the start, because discovery and creativity are

871
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:27,359
Speaker 5: both wonderful things, but it's important to make sure that

872
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 5: safety comes first as well. On TikTok, teenagers have over

873
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:34,800
Speaker 5: fifty built in protections right from when they join. Accounts

874
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 5: routines all start private by default, They're not open to

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Speaker 5: the entire world, and for those under sixteen, direct messages

876
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:44,280
Speaker 5: are turned off. Only their friends can comment on their videos.

877
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Speaker 5: And that kind of approach matters because feeling confident and

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00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 5: comfortable about these platforms your teenagers are on shouldn't mean

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Speaker 3: We should be joined shortly by Secretary of Chris Wright,

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Speaker 3: Department of Energy.

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Speaker 2: Secretary of US Secretary of Energy.

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Speaker 3: Big big job right now, because everybody's talking about oil

892
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:39,760
Speaker 3: and I just checked it.

893
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 2: It is down eleven percent today.

894
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:44,400
Speaker 5: It's all over the place.

895
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Speaker 2: It's down.

896
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Speaker 5: Every single commodity is now just another cryptocurrency swing. You're

897
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Speaker 5: so twenty five percent today, you know, just cause no,

898
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:54,239
Speaker 5: you're absolutely right.

899
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Speaker 3: It's it like we talk about how our brains get

900
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Speaker 3: impacted by social media and by everything being digital, and

901
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 3: these things used to move like an oil taker slowly,

902
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Speaker 3: that they would turn slowly, but now everything's so quick.

903
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Speaker 2: You had a spike.

904
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Speaker 3: So on March it looks like six at some point

905
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Speaker 3: it went from about eighty seven dollars a barrel to

906
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Speaker 3: one hundred and seven. Now on some of the I

907
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Speaker 3: think after hours trading, it spiked all the way up

908
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Speaker 3: to almost one hundred and twenty. But now it's been

909
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Speaker 3: slowly coming down. It's back at eighty four seventy three.

910
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Speaker 3: That is Brent crude oil per barrel. There it is,

911
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Speaker 3: and it's going down. So we're gonna have secretary right.

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00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 3: It looks like he's just getting seated. So they're gonna

913
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Speaker 3: give me the go ahead and just a second there.

914
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Speaker 3: But this is the big job right now for this administration.

915
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 3: There's a whole bunch of education that needs to happen.

916
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:54,640
Speaker 3: And hopefully Secretary Right can walk us through how the

917
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 3: price of oil then is translate it's delayed which a

918
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:01,840
Speaker 3: lot of people don't realize, into the price of the pump,

919
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:04,720
Speaker 3: and what we can do to bring down those costs,

920
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Speaker 3: what we can do to get the straight of horn Moose,

921
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:10,440
Speaker 3: which is effectively blocked right now. How do we get

922
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 3: that opened up? What is it going to take.

923
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:15,440
Speaker 2: Is it insurance, ensuring the tankers? Is it? Is it

924
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:17,799
Speaker 2: working with the oil companies? Is it?

925
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Speaker 3: Do we just have to keep bombing the hell out

926
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Speaker 3: of Iran until they relinquish? All right, I'm told Secretary

927
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 3: Chris Right is ready. Welcome back to the show. Secretary,

928
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:32,799
Speaker 3: you have a huge job right now. You're looking at Venezuela,

929
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 3: you're looking at Iran, you're looking at your pride. You're

930
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Speaker 3: making a lot of phone calls, so thank you for

931
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Speaker 3: making the time.

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Speaker 2: Tell us.

933
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Speaker 3: So the price of Brent crude is at eighty three

934
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Speaker 3: forty four right now, it's coming down.

935
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Speaker 2: What's it? Why is it coming down? And what more

936
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:47,160
Speaker 2: can we do.

937
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 13: Well, Andrew, thanks for having me.

938
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Speaker 9: I appreciate you, appreciate all your viewership.

939
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Speaker 13: So yeah, the.

940
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Speaker 9: Straits of Hormus that most of the Middle Eastern crude

941
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Speaker 9: flows through have been effectively close since this conflict started.

942
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 13: That's what drove them up.

943
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 9: And of course the biggest answer here is to end

944
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Speaker 9: Iran's ability to attack the United States bases, terrorize their neighbors,

945
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Speaker 9: and threaten oil supplies.

946
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Speaker 13: That they've been doing for forty seven years.

947
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Speaker 9: So right now, you know they are uncontrolled and they

948
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Speaker 9: have so much armaments they're able to scare shipping traffic off.

949
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Speaker 9: But every day, every hour, we're degrading the Iranian nation's

950
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Speaker 9: ability to terrorize their neighbors, threaten energy supplies, and kill

951
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Speaker 9: American soldiers. This has been a forty seven year long conflict.

952
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Speaker 9: They've always put a premium on raised energy prices higher

953
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Speaker 9: than they should be because Iran always had the risk

954
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Speaker 9: of this sort of wanton projection of their power over

955
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Speaker 9: this critical waterway. And so why they've treated in the

956
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:03,400
Speaker 9: short run is the United States, in consultation with a

957
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 9: bunch of other nations that are part of the International

958
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:11,319
Speaker 9: Energy Agency, have agreed or are in the process of

959
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 9: working an agreement to release oil out of strategic petroleum

960
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:20,560
Speaker 9: reserves to replace a fair amount of the lost crude

961
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:22,880
Speaker 9: oil coming out of the Strait, so that will keep

962
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Speaker 9: global oil markets supplied going forward.

963
00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:29,240
Speaker 13: There are oil stores around the world.

964
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Speaker 9: We do have surplus oil production capacity in the world,

965
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Speaker 9: but a lot comes out of the Strait of Hormuz.

966
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Speaker 9: So the price and fear factor are raising prices because

967
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:42,880
Speaker 9: of the lack of flow of energy. But ultimately, we

968
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Speaker 9: need to degrade Iran's military ability to do what they're

969
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:50,279
Speaker 9: doing today and what they've threatened to do and on

970
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Speaker 9: and off done for forty seven years.

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Speaker 3: So with a solution, I've heard different ideas floated out

972
00:54:56,440 --> 00:55:02,719
Speaker 3: ensuring insurance for these tankers, I've seen potential military escorts.

973
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:07,880
Speaker 3: Are any steps being taken on either of those two fronts?

974
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Speaker 13: Oh?

975
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 9: Absolutely that those were the first steps we announced. I

976
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:14,080
Speaker 9: was saying the recent movement in oil prices was because

977
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Speaker 9: of the potential release coming. The first things we announced

978
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Speaker 9: was the commercial insurance market for ships. You know, rates

979
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:24,920
Speaker 9: were going up and it wasn't clear if that market

980
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:25,760
Speaker 9: was really open.

981
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:29,240
Speaker 13: So we've offered to reinsure the insurance.

982
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 9: Companies which will allow the insurance market to open back up.

983
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:36,960
Speaker 9: But tied together with that is people will transit the

984
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Speaker 9: straight when they believe the risk is relatively low, so

985
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:44,319
Speaker 9: it's physical security for the ship captains to go through. Now,

986
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:46,840
Speaker 9: we've had a large oil tanker went through the straits

987
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:48,160
Speaker 9: forty eight hours ago.

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Speaker 13: We have others that are interested to try to do.

989
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 9: That, but you know, that's not clear yet whether we've

990
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Speaker 9: degraded Iran's capacity to cause trouble enough to make transit safe.

991
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Speaker 9: One has gone through and it worked fine, but you

992
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Speaker 9: know there's still risks there.

993
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Speaker 13: Every day we're degrading them.

994
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Speaker 9: But when we degrade them enough that it seems like

995
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Speaker 9: a ship escort with the US military is enough to

996
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Speaker 9: ensure safe travel.

997
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:19,719
Speaker 13: That'll be a great day. And I think that's not

998
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:22,880
Speaker 13: too far away. But you know, somehow we need to

999
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Speaker 13: get that energy flow into the world again.

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Speaker 9: And of course the US has a lot of levers

1001
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Speaker 9: to pull and are act.

1002
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Speaker 13: And are working this.

1003
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Speaker 3: Every day every day, So the Secretary the you know,

1004
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Speaker 3: there's a whole piece to this where I think the

1005
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:41,920
Speaker 3: average American consumer is a little uneducated about the price fluctuations. Right,

1006
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 3: So we've seen the price at the pump go up,

1007
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:47,160
Speaker 3: and I noticed that it was up even further today,

1008
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Speaker 3: even though the price of Brent has come down. Can

1009
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:53,839
Speaker 3: you just educate us on the time delay? How does

1010
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 3: the pricing work? Because you know, the left will always

1011
00:56:57,120 --> 00:57:00,520
Speaker 3: say that the oil companies are conspiring against and you know,

1012
00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:04,480
Speaker 3: using fear in the market to you know, price gouge

1013
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:06,280
Speaker 3: us and make a bunch of extra profits.

1014
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:07,279
Speaker 2: What's really going on?

1015
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:10,920
Speaker 13: No, this is just markets. This is supply and demand.

1016
00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 9: You know, if you raise your gasoline prices up really

1017
00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:17,920
Speaker 9: fast before your cost of crude has gone up, your

1018
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:20,080
Speaker 9: neighbor next door is going to eat your lunch by

1019
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:22,680
Speaker 9: keeping his prices a little bit lower than your prices.

1020
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:26,000
Speaker 9: And gasoline is separate than crude oil. You know, the

1021
00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:30,400
Speaker 9: US exports gasoline, we import gasoline. Gasoline is traded all

1022
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:33,760
Speaker 9: around the world. It's very tied to the price of crude,

1023
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:38,240
Speaker 9: but there are times where gasoline prices, you know, trade

1024
00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:42,400
Speaker 9: with different time lags and sometimes even different directions than

1025
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:44,920
Speaker 9: crude price. In the long run, they're very tied together,

1026
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:48,080
Speaker 9: but they're separate markets. And the market for diesel is separate,

1027
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:51,120
Speaker 9: and the market for jet fuel is different as well.

1028
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 13: But Andrew.

1029
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:56,080
Speaker 9: One key thing to think of here, we're going through

1030
00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 9: a short term dislocation and we are all feeling it.

1031
00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:02,560
Speaker 9: The President is keenly aware, I think, as everyone knows

1032
00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:06,640
Speaker 9: of gasoline prices and diesel prices and costs for American consumers.

1033
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:08,080
Speaker 13: He is keenly aware.

1034
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:10,880
Speaker 9: In fact, it may seem backwards right now, but this

1035
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:14,840
Speaker 9: war is the large part because of the President's concern

1036
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:17,960
Speaker 9: of energy prices for American consumers over.

1037
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Speaker 13: The long run.

1038
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:22,360
Speaker 9: Iran, who has been a threat to oil supplies, Iran

1039
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:26,000
Speaker 9: who's driven the previous price price spikes in the late

1040
00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:27,000
Speaker 9: nineteen seventies.

1041
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:29,680
Speaker 13: That was Iran that led to that huge.

1042
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 9: Price bike and the gas lines and all that.

1043
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:32,560
Speaker 13: That was Iran.

1044
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:37,480
Speaker 9: The President seeing, boy, that same nation is arming itself

1045
00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:40,720
Speaker 9: massively with missiles so that they can make it so

1046
00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:43,720
Speaker 9: hard to attack them that no one will, so they

1047
00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:44,840
Speaker 9: can finish building.

1048
00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 13: Their nuclear weapons.

1049
00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:50,200
Speaker 9: Imagine a nation that's so trouble oriented to have nuclear

1050
00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:53,480
Speaker 9: weapons and a massive weapons arsenal.

1051
00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:56,080
Speaker 13: They could dictate to the world the price of energy.

1052
00:58:56,400 --> 00:58:59,200
Speaker 9: And I think previous presidents were just kicking that can

1053
00:58:59,240 --> 00:58:59,800
Speaker 9: down the road.

1054
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:01,840
Speaker 13: Well, it didn't blow up on my watch.

1055
00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:03,880
Speaker 9: And that's kind of a risky thing, and they've kicked

1056
00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:06,920
Speaker 9: it down. They kicked that can down the road. This

1057
00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:10,840
Speaker 9: president's bold. He thinks about American consumers, and he thinks

1058
00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:13,919
Speaker 9: long term, that is not a situation the US wants

1059
00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:14,640
Speaker 9: to go into.

1060
00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:17,560
Speaker 13: They're they're arming themselves so hard right now.

1061
00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:22,680
Speaker 9: In the negotiations, they weren't indicating any willingness to not

1062
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 9: be massively armed and ultimate possessors of nuclear weapons. And

1063
00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:29,680
Speaker 9: I think he rightly saw this window could close. This

1064
00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:32,640
Speaker 9: window could close. They could rain hell on our soldiers

1065
00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:34,919
Speaker 9: and make it very hard for US to push back

1066
00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:37,840
Speaker 9: on them, and they could dictate global energy prices, and

1067
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Speaker 9: that's not tolerable to President Troup.

1068
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 2: Let's talk geopolitics here.

1069
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:46,360
Speaker 3: We saw what happened in Venezuela and that incredible military precision.

1070
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:49,160
Speaker 3: We're all in awe of our military. But that opened

1071
00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:53,640
Speaker 3: up a new supply with a cooperative country. Have you

1072
00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:55,720
Speaker 3: seen the impacts of that yet? Are we still kind

1073
00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:56,640
Speaker 3: of ramping up there?

1074
00:59:57,040 --> 01:00:00,120
Speaker 9: Yeah, oil production is rising in Venezuela and we're I'm

1075
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:02,800
Speaker 9: thrilled to see that so quickly, you know, But to

1076
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:06,640
Speaker 9: meaningfully add the global supply, that's sort of six twelve

1077
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:10,200
Speaker 9: eighteen months. It's not many years. We'll see hundreds of

1078
01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:12,760
Speaker 9: thousands of barrels a day of additional production out of

1079
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Speaker 9: Venezuela before this year is over. Very excited about that,

1080
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Speaker 9: and of course, a huge reduction in drug running. It

1081
01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:22,000
Speaker 9: was just out of some of the Americas and they

1082
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:25,200
Speaker 9: said the murder rate has plummeted in Trinidad and Tobago

1083
01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:29,080
Speaker 9: because of the president's enforcement against running drugs on boats

1084
01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:31,560
Speaker 9: in the ocean there north of Venezuela.

1085
01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:34,560
Speaker 13: So look, great progress in Venezuela. Great progress.

1086
01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:37,560
Speaker 2: Well, that's great to hear. I mean, it seems like

1087
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Speaker 2: it could.

1088
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Speaker 3: Be the model in a place like Iran, potentially if

1089
01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:44,480
Speaker 3: we get a leadership there that's also willing to cooperate.

1090
01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:48,280
Speaker 3: I'm skeptical that we're there yet, but obviously that's the

1091
01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:50,400
Speaker 3: hope that this would be the last time we'd have

1092
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:53,640
Speaker 3: to deal with a bad actor that's sowing terrorism throughout

1093
01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:57,760
Speaker 3: the region. But I mean, could you in theory not

1094
01:00:57,920 --> 01:01:02,160
Speaker 3: see regime change and still get the ultimate result that

1095
01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:04,960
Speaker 3: we want, which is an end to the conflict, an

1096
01:01:05,080 --> 01:01:06,960
Speaker 3: end to the destruction and end to the violence and

1097
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:10,480
Speaker 3: the end of the terrorism, and then a cooperative potential

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Speaker 3: partner in that region. Let's talk about potential positive outcomes

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Speaker 3: in Iran if you don't see regime change.

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Speaker 9: Yes, Look, of course, this operation was not premised on

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Speaker 9: regime change. It was premised on they're building up such

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Speaker 9: such a daunting supply of missiles that is, shielding a

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Speaker 9: nuclear program.

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Speaker 13: That's just unacceptable.

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Speaker 9: Whoever rules Iran cannot have an impenetrable mass of missiles

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Speaker 9: with a nuclear weapons stockpile behind that. So if we

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Speaker 9: get a better regime, that would be great. But as

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Speaker 9: you said, we might get remnants of the existing regime.

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Speaker 9: But they're so defanged in their ability to project power

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Speaker 9: to support the terrorist proxy groups around the Middle East

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Speaker 9: that they pivot their behavior. How are they going to

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Speaker 9: stay in power in their country if they're poorer, if

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Speaker 9: they're not as much of a military power, they better

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Speaker 9: start to live in a little better lives for their people.

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Speaker 9: So we have to degrade their military capacity. That is

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Speaker 9: the ultimate job of this mission. But achieving that mission

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Speaker 9: may have positive spinoff effects as well.

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Speaker 3: So we're told that China gets about seventeen percent of

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Speaker 3: its energy from Venezuela and Iran. Right, they were getting

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Speaker 3: cut rate prices black market sanctioned oil.

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Speaker 2: What explained to the audience.

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Speaker 3: What this means from an energy standpoint for the CCP

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Speaker 3: and Jijiping. What are the felt impacts here and what

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Speaker 3: are the long term impacts.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, this is not good news for China.

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Speaker 9: Certainly, China has three discount oil suppliers, Venezuela, Iran, and Russia.

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Speaker 9: Venezuela is no longer a discount oil supplier to China.

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Speaker 9: In fact, most of Venezuela oil flies to the United

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Speaker 9: States because it's cheaper to transported here and it all

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Speaker 9: sells at market prices, so it's no longer cheap oil

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Speaker 9: for China. China's not happy about that. They've they've lost

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Speaker 9: a client state in the Western Hemisphere, as has Russia

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Speaker 9: and as has Iran. So Venezuela is not just good

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01:03:12,760 --> 01:03:16,120
Speaker 9: for energy, it's good for geopolitics. So we're thrilled to

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Speaker 9: We're thrilled with that development. I'm sure China is very

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Speaker 9: concerned about the same thing with Iran. They've been getting

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Speaker 9: very discounted Iranian crude and at the end of this, again,

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Speaker 9: we don't know who's going to be leading Iran, but

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Speaker 9: it will be a different Iran than going into this

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Speaker 9: and in Iran with massively shrunk and military capabilities, massively

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Speaker 9: shrunken ability to terrorize American soldiers in the region, their neighbors,

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Speaker 9: and global oil supplies.

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Speaker 13: So yeah, it's this. We're changing the calculus for China

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Speaker 13: quite a bit with.

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Speaker 9: These two, uh, with these these two changes in posture

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Speaker 9: with these two nations.

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Speaker 3: So there was in Iran, Yeah, and there was some

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Speaker 3: news made that you know, we we kind of offered

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Speaker 3: in all of a couple of days worth to Russia.

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Speaker 3: What's the logic there of allowing them to more freely

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Speaker 3: trade oil? Is it just to bring prices down or

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Speaker 3: is there any concern there?

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Speaker 13: Yeah?

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Speaker 9: No, and so definitely not in all of branch to Russia.

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Speaker 9: This was no change in policy towards Russia. Here's how

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Speaker 9: China treats its discount oil suppliers. You send your crude

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01:04:23,640 --> 01:04:27,000
Speaker 9: to us, We'll unload it when we want. We'll let

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Speaker 9: it stack up in convoys, having to wait at sea

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Speaker 9: for weeks or months at a time, because if we

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01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:35,840
Speaker 9: knew that, we'll get to buy it from me even cheaper,

1161
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Speaker 9: because you'll be desperate. So there's a lot of just

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Speaker 9: floating Russian oil it's going to be unloaded at Chinese

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01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:45,480
Speaker 9: refineries maybe thirty or sixty days from now.

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Speaker 13: But yet we have Indian refineries.

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Speaker 9: The second biggest importer of oil in the world after

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Speaker 9: China is India. So India was going to shut down

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Speaker 9: some of their refineries, slow their production of gasoline and diesel,

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Speaker 9: which they sell into the global market. That put up

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Speaker 9: prices of for gasoline and diesel even here in the

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Speaker 9: United States. So we said, hey, we're not changing our

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Speaker 9: policy towards Russia, but you know, for thirty days, go

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Speaker 9: ahead and buy that Russian crew that's floating offshore, keep

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01:05:14,520 --> 01:05:18,040
Speaker 9: your refineries open, keep your energy production up, and absorb

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Speaker 9: that oil. So it's basically trying to replace or bring

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Speaker 9: forward some of these lost barrels that aren't coming out

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Speaker 9: of the Straits.

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Speaker 13: It is not a change in our policy towards Russia.

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Speaker 9: There's a lot of floating Iranian crude off the oceans

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Speaker 9: as well. Now, of course we have no change in

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Speaker 9: policy for Iran as well. But if for short oil

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Speaker 9: and we have pragmatic solutions to bring oil to market,

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Speaker 9: you know, we're looking at all of those things. That's

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Speaker 9: about protecting American consumers.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, that's that's very good insight. Thank you for that. Actually,

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Speaker 3: I think that's an important distinction. People need to understand

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Speaker 3: that this has knock on effects for even allies like India.

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Speaker 3: Last question here, Secretary, I know your time is tight

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Speaker 3: the next steps in this process. I mean, everybody's wondering

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Speaker 3: when this is gonna end. I know you don't have

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Speaker 3: a crystal ball. When will energy prices come back down?

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Speaker 3: When will the price of gas come back down? What's

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Speaker 3: your message to the American people?

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Speaker 9: So American people is you know, God bless the American troops,

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Speaker 9: God blessed President Trump's leadership. The military progress has been tremendous.

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Speaker 9: We are massively degrading their ability. You're destroying their missile launchers,

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Speaker 9: their missiles themselves, and their fabrication, their factories that build missiles,

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Speaker 9: that build drones, that build all these weapons. We're just

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Speaker 9: degrading their ability to reign terror on their own citizens,

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Speaker 9: on the American soldiers, and on the nations.

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Speaker 13: In that region.

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Speaker 9: And at the end of this, we want to remove

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Speaker 9: Iran's ability not just to threaten the military destruction they've done,

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Speaker 9: but also their ability to threaten the flow of energy. Ultimately,

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Speaker 9: President Trump is doing this to low were the long

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Speaker 9: term cost of energy because the biggest threat to the

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Speaker 9: flow of energy around the world is Iran, and Iran

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Speaker 9: is going to be defanged. So this is short term

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Speaker 9: pain a long term gain.

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Speaker 3: Secretary Chris Right at the Department of Energy, you're you know,

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Speaker 3: I just want people to understand, he runs the Department

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Speaker 3: of Energy, but he has more energy than just about

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Speaker 3: anybody I've I've encountered in recent memory, but besides maybe

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Speaker 3: President Trump. You know, the President Trump might have more energy,

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Speaker 3: but you are an active, creative, energetic force at the

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Speaker 3: Department of Energy. So thank you for making the time.

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Speaker 3: And I just I think you're you are one of

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Speaker 3: the more fascinating.

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Speaker 11: Uh.

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Speaker 3: There's so many in the admin. We have some we're

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Speaker 3: blessed to have such a great administration, but you are

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Speaker 3: truly a remarkable, remarkable leader of that department.

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Speaker 2: So thank you, sir. We appreciate you taking the time

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Speaker 2: and coming on with us today.

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Speaker 9: Thanks so much, Andrew, and you have President Trump is

1225
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Speaker 9: indeed tireless. I can't quite keep up with him, but

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Speaker 9: I'm doing everything I can can to be as close

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Speaker 9: as possible to his work ethic and his energy level.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, he is.

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Speaker 13: He is a freak of nature.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, he is. And you're doing a great job.

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Speaker 2: So keep up the great work.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure you'll get those those that price the pump

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Speaker 3: back down soon enough. So God bless you. We'll talk

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 3: I'm excited about our next guest, Doctor Paul Ray. He's

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Speaker 3: a professor of history at Hillsdale College. He's the chair

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Speaker 3: of the Charles O. Lee and Louis K. Lee Western

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Speaker 3: Heritage Center. He's also the director for the Senator Center

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Speaker 3: of Military History and Strategy.

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Speaker 5: Ooh, that sounds fun, So.

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Speaker 2: We want to talk to doctor Paul Ray. Welcome to

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Speaker 2: the show. Doctor.

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Speaker 3: It's great to have you back. You you are a

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Speaker 3: very accomplished gentleman.

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Speaker 6: He thank you, and it's good to be back.

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Speaker 2: It's great to have you.

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Speaker 3: We want to talk about Iran, and again we're approaching

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Speaker 3: this as an educational segment. We want people to understand

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Speaker 3: Iran better. So what do people need to know about

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Speaker 3: the people in the history of Iran better.

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Speaker 14: Well, the first thing to understand is the Iranians are

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Speaker 14: an ancient nation, very much aware.

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Speaker 6: Of themselves as a nation.

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Speaker 14: If you look at the Arab world, if you leave

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Speaker 14: a side Egypt, none of the countries in the Arab

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Speaker 14: world are really countries in the old fashioned sense of

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Speaker 14: the word. The Egyptians have always been on their own

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Speaker 14: and they have a very powerful understanding of.

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Speaker 6: Who they are.

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Speaker 14: The rest of the Arabs are part of Islam, and

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Speaker 14: there's no Syria, there's no Iraq, so that's a European creation.

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Speaker 14: But Iran is a nation. And when Islam came to Iran,

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Speaker 14: when they were conquered by the Arabs, they didn't switch

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Speaker 14: their language, they didn't go over to the language of

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Speaker 14: the Qur'an. They retained Persians. So there was a kind

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Speaker 14: of cultural resistance built on a pride in their nation.

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Speaker 14: That's extremely important for understanding them. Now if you look

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Speaker 14: at recent history in that.

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Speaker 6: Part of the world, I mean, look.

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Speaker 14: They were a great empire in the sixth century BC.

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Speaker 14: It is Iran that was responsible for the Xerxes invasion

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Speaker 14: of Greece. If you look at the recent history of Iran,

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Speaker 14: it's not been entirely positive. It was a kind of plaything.

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Speaker 14: In the nineteenth century the oil in the south, the

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Speaker 14: British exploited that very little to the money went to

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Speaker 14: the Iranian people. And one consequence of this is the

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Speaker 14: Kijar dynasty was overthrown by a general who then became Shaw.

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Speaker 14: And it's the Shaw's father, the father of the Shaw.

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Speaker 6: That we knew fifty years ago.

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Speaker 14: The Pahlavi family took over and his goal was to

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Speaker 14: restore the Iranian nation, to restore Persia to its strength,

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Speaker 14: and to do that he had to get the Russians

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Speaker 14: out they were threatening in the north, and the English

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Speaker 14: out of the south. And he tried to play with

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01:12:47,760 --> 01:12:50,360
Speaker 14: the Germans during World War two was a way of

1313
01:12:50,360 --> 01:12:53,640
Speaker 14: getting rid of the English and the Russians, and the

1314
01:12:53,680 --> 01:12:58,280
Speaker 14: English and Russians joined together and booted him and put

1315
01:12:58,320 --> 01:13:02,200
Speaker 14: his sixteen year olds on the shaw that we once

1316
01:13:02,280 --> 01:13:08,440
Speaker 14: knew in power. Now, these two people, the two Paula Vishas,

1317
01:13:09,040 --> 01:13:14,160
Speaker 14: had a kind of goal for Iran. Their model was

1318
01:13:14,360 --> 01:13:18,160
Speaker 14: Mustapha Camal of the Ottoman Empire and then of Turkey,

1319
01:13:18,200 --> 01:13:21,760
Speaker 14: the man who came to be called Ata Turk. And

1320
01:13:21,840 --> 01:13:25,240
Speaker 14: what they wanted to do is to bring Iran into

1321
01:13:25,320 --> 01:13:31,479
Speaker 14: the twentieth century. So they were major modernizers. At Turk

1322
01:13:31,560 --> 01:13:36,160
Speaker 14: succeeded in this, and he was able to succeed in

1323
01:13:36,200 --> 01:13:40,519
Speaker 14: this because after World War One, the allies that had

1324
01:13:40,640 --> 01:13:43,960
Speaker 14: won that war, the British, the French, the Italians and

1325
01:13:44,040 --> 01:13:49,599
Speaker 14: so forth. The Greeks wanted to split up Anatolia among them,

1326
01:13:49,840 --> 01:13:51,960
Speaker 14: and he was sent. He had been the hero of

1327
01:13:52,000 --> 01:13:54,400
Speaker 14: the Battle of Gallipoli fighting against the British.

1328
01:13:55,000 --> 01:13:57,080
Speaker 6: He was sent by the Sultan.

1329
01:13:58,200 --> 01:14:03,480
Speaker 14: To disarm the population of Anatolio, and he did the opposite.

1330
01:14:03,520 --> 01:14:06,879
Speaker 14: He turned them into an army. He defeated the Greeks,

1331
01:14:07,520 --> 01:14:11,160
Speaker 14: drove them out, the Italians of the French and the

1332
01:14:11,160 --> 01:14:16,400
Speaker 14: British withdrew, and he created modern Turkey. So he was

1333
01:14:16,400 --> 01:14:19,880
Speaker 14: a hero, and as a hero he was able to

1334
01:14:19,880 --> 01:14:23,760
Speaker 14: get away with a great deal. And what did he

1335
01:14:23,840 --> 01:14:27,000
Speaker 14: try to do well. He tried to push Islam into

1336
01:14:27,040 --> 01:14:31,960
Speaker 14: the private sector to create a secular state. He abolished

1337
01:14:32,000 --> 01:14:34,479
Speaker 14: the caliphate, which went all the way back to the

1338
01:14:34,520 --> 01:14:40,400
Speaker 14: time when Muhammad died. When they set up radio stations

1339
01:14:41,200 --> 01:14:43,880
Speaker 14: right in the beginning. Half of the radio announcers in

1340
01:14:43,880 --> 01:14:47,240
Speaker 14: the nineteen twenties were women, half of them men. Took

1341
01:14:47,280 --> 01:14:50,120
Speaker 14: a long time for Barbara Walters to become an announcer

1342
01:14:50,439 --> 01:14:53,400
Speaker 14: in the United States. Think of that difference. In nineteen

1343
01:14:53,479 --> 01:14:57,880
Speaker 14: fifty there were more women teaching at Turkish universities than

1344
01:14:57,920 --> 01:15:04,439
Speaker 14: an American universities, more women chairing departments in universities than

1345
01:15:04,479 --> 01:15:05,760
Speaker 14: in American universities.

1346
01:15:05,920 --> 01:15:09,599
Speaker 6: Same thing was true for Egypt. So there was a kind.

1347
01:15:09,439 --> 01:15:17,080
Speaker 14: Of modernizing movement that swept the Islamic world Egypt as

1348
01:15:17,120 --> 01:15:23,080
Speaker 14: well as Iran. But the Pahlavis weren't heroes. They didn't

1349
01:15:23,080 --> 01:15:27,879
Speaker 14: have the advantages he had, and they ran into trouble,

1350
01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:31,360
Speaker 14: both from the British and the Russians, as I explained,

1351
01:15:31,880 --> 01:15:36,200
Speaker 14: but also from the Mullas, who did not want Turkey

1352
01:15:36,240 --> 01:15:39,160
Speaker 14: to be dragged kicking and screaming into the twentieth century.

1353
01:15:39,280 --> 01:15:42,360
Speaker 2: Iran, Iran, right, yeah, yeah.

1354
01:15:42,080 --> 01:15:43,320
Speaker 6: Iran you're actually right.

1355
01:15:44,479 --> 01:15:51,280
Speaker 14: So what happens in the fifties and sixties is that

1356
01:15:51,360 --> 01:15:55,639
Speaker 14: the younger of the two Shaws achieved some success by

1357
01:15:55,760 --> 01:15:57,960
Speaker 14: using the Americans to get the British out.

1358
01:16:00,080 --> 01:16:02,559
Speaker 6: Ingements are worked out so.

1359
01:16:02,479 --> 01:16:05,719
Speaker 14: That a great deal of the proceeds from the oil

1360
01:16:05,760 --> 01:16:08,600
Speaker 14: that came from Iran ended up in the hands of

1361
01:16:08,600 --> 01:16:09,120
Speaker 14: the government.

1362
01:16:09,800 --> 01:16:10,439
Speaker 6: What did they do.

1363
01:16:11,240 --> 01:16:18,720
Speaker 14: They built roads, they built schools, they built hospitals. They

1364
01:16:18,880 --> 01:16:24,599
Speaker 14: sent large numbers of Iranian students abroad to study. At

1365
01:16:24,640 --> 01:16:27,599
Speaker 14: the time of the Iranian Revolution in nineteen seventy nine,

1366
01:16:27,880 --> 01:16:32,519
Speaker 14: there were fifty thousand Iranian students study in the United States,

1367
01:16:34,000 --> 01:16:37,880
Speaker 14: and they were buying a great deal for Iran. There

1368
01:16:37,880 --> 01:16:44,200
Speaker 14: were fifty thousand Americans living in Tehran, mostly businessmen, selling

1369
01:16:44,240 --> 01:16:50,000
Speaker 14: them weapons and everything. You could imagine, this attempt to

1370
01:16:50,040 --> 01:16:54,519
Speaker 14: get them rapidly. Moving into the twentieth century upset people.

1371
01:16:55,920 --> 01:16:57,840
Speaker 14: A lot of the students who went to the United

1372
01:16:57,880 --> 01:17:02,200
Speaker 14: States were radicalized and came back wanting to throw out

1373
01:17:02,240 --> 01:17:07,960
Speaker 14: the Shaw. A fair number of them were communists. Then

1374
01:17:08,479 --> 01:17:14,000
Speaker 14: there were the rural people who were devout and the Mollahs.

1375
01:17:14,920 --> 01:17:17,280
Speaker 14: One of the things that the younger Shaw did was

1376
01:17:17,320 --> 01:17:20,960
Speaker 14: called the Green Revolution. He took land away from the

1377
01:17:20,960 --> 01:17:27,120
Speaker 14: great landowners, including the Molas, and he distributed among the

1378
01:17:27,200 --> 01:17:34,800
Speaker 14: peasants of Iran. So what builds up gradually is a

1379
01:17:34,880 --> 01:17:38,880
Speaker 14: kind of explosion. There are two parties.

1380
01:17:38,400 --> 01:17:39,440
Speaker 6: To this explosion.

1381
01:17:40,439 --> 01:17:43,680
Speaker 14: On the one hand, there's the religious party led by

1382
01:17:43,720 --> 01:17:52,040
Speaker 14: the Ayatollahomeni, who was a man of cunning, ruthlessness and eloquence.

1383
01:17:53,240 --> 01:17:56,200
Speaker 14: On the other hand, there was a mass of people

1384
01:17:56,360 --> 01:18:01,599
Speaker 14: with no particular direction and no particular leader, the people

1385
01:18:01,720 --> 01:18:06,200
Speaker 14: from the leading families in Tehran, the younger people, and

1386
01:18:06,280 --> 01:18:10,280
Speaker 14: the ones who had studied in the United States. The

1387
01:18:10,360 --> 01:18:14,080
Speaker 14: consequence is when the crisis came in nineteen seventy nine,

1388
01:18:14,960 --> 01:18:21,320
Speaker 14: Homiani managed to fool the urban population, this modernizing population,

1389
01:18:22,080 --> 01:18:26,920
Speaker 14: into thinking that they could live with him perfectly. Well,

1390
01:18:27,200 --> 01:18:29,760
Speaker 14: the revolution takes place, the shot is pushed out.

1391
01:18:31,160 --> 01:18:31,720
Speaker 6: He was a.

1392
01:18:31,720 --> 01:18:36,639
Speaker 14: Dying man at that time, dying of cancer, and Homeni

1393
01:18:36,760 --> 01:18:42,960
Speaker 14: then edges out the urban population and he establishes something

1394
01:18:43,160 --> 01:18:47,240
Speaker 14: like a totalitarian regime. The other day, I gave a

1395
01:18:47,280 --> 01:18:50,240
Speaker 14: talk here at Hillsdale College on this, and I woke

1396
01:18:50,320 --> 01:18:53,320
Speaker 14: up in the morning and I asked myself, I wonder

1397
01:18:53,439 --> 01:18:57,519
Speaker 14: if there are commissars in the Revolutionary guard and in

1398
01:18:57,640 --> 01:19:02,599
Speaker 14: the Iranian Army, that is to say, political officers.

1399
01:19:03,840 --> 01:19:06,120
Speaker 6: In Russia. This was the people from the.

1400
01:19:06,080 --> 01:19:11,160
Speaker 14: Party who watched over the military guys, watched over all

1401
01:19:11,200 --> 01:19:14,799
Speaker 14: of the officers, and I went to Ai, that source

1402
01:19:14,840 --> 01:19:18,680
Speaker 14: of great wisdom, and on this occasion it really was

1403
01:19:18,720 --> 01:19:22,200
Speaker 14: a source of wisdom because it provided very good detail

1404
01:19:22,280 --> 01:19:26,120
Speaker 14: on this. And yes, there are commissars in the Iranian Army.

1405
01:19:26,960 --> 01:19:32,120
Speaker 14: So this is a regime of surveillance in which the

1406
01:19:32,200 --> 01:19:39,320
Speaker 14: guardians are surveilled also by Mullahs who serve as political officers.

1407
01:19:39,520 --> 01:19:42,800
Speaker 14: They can arrest anyone of the officers of the military officers.

1408
01:19:43,600 --> 01:19:47,160
Speaker 14: They can reverse any decision that a military officer makes.

1409
01:19:48,360 --> 01:19:49,680
Speaker 6: This is quite.

1410
01:19:51,280 --> 01:19:54,160
Speaker 14: A well disciplined, well organized regime.

1411
01:19:56,640 --> 01:20:00,200
Speaker 3: If you knew Charlie Kirk, you knew this. He was

1412
01:20:00,200 --> 01:20:03,320
Speaker 3: a connector. Charlie believed in finding good people and connecting

1413
01:20:03,360 --> 01:20:05,360
Speaker 3: them with other good people that he cared about. When

1414
01:20:05,400 --> 01:20:08,240
Speaker 3: someone truly took care of him, Charlie would never hesitate

1415
01:20:08,280 --> 01:20:11,000
Speaker 3: to recommend them. Andrew Delray and Todd of Akin were

1416
01:20:11,040 --> 01:20:13,760
Speaker 3: two of those people. They personally helped Charlie and Erico

1417
01:20:13,840 --> 01:20:16,920
Speaker 3: with their mortgage needs, and Charlie trusted them completely, whether

1418
01:20:16,960 --> 01:20:19,439
Speaker 3: it was a home buyer trying to qualify or someone

1419
01:20:19,479 --> 01:20:21,880
Speaker 3: needing to consolidate debt or see if they could get

1420
01:20:21,880 --> 01:20:24,799
Speaker 3: a lower rate in payments. These were the guys Charlie

1421
01:20:24,840 --> 01:20:28,439
Speaker 3: sent people to and right now, timing matters. The market

1422
01:20:28,439 --> 01:20:31,200
Speaker 3: has shifted and rates have come down. There's more inventory,

1423
01:20:31,240 --> 01:20:34,519
Speaker 3: bidding wars have cooled, and buyers finally have more control.

1424
01:20:34,600 --> 01:20:37,360
Speaker 3: But that window won't stay open forever. As rates come down,

1425
01:20:37,520 --> 01:20:41,360
Speaker 3: competition will return. That's why being prepared now is so important.

1426
01:20:41,439 --> 01:20:44,320
Speaker 3: Andrew and Todd at Union Home Mortgage bring over forty

1427
01:20:44,439 --> 01:20:47,799
Speaker 3: years of combined experience and guide you through the process clearly,

1428
01:20:47,840 --> 01:20:51,000
Speaker 3: no pressure, no guesswork. These are the people Charlie trusted,

1429
01:20:51,040 --> 01:20:53,000
Speaker 3: and they're the people you can count on.

1430
01:20:53,280 --> 01:20:56,320
Speaker 1: Reach out today to get approved for mortgage financing with

1431
01:20:56,360 --> 01:20:59,400
Speaker 1: Andrew and Todd at Andrewintodd dot com or call Triple

1432
01:20:59,400 --> 01:21:02,519
Speaker 1: A Triple as eleven seventy two with forty years of experience,

1433
01:21:02,560 --> 01:21:04,759
Speaker 1: they really are the experts and they make it easy

1434
01:21:04,800 --> 01:21:07,639
Speaker 1: because they keep everything in house. Called Triple eight Triple

1435
01:21:07,640 --> 01:21:10,439
Speaker 1: eight eleven seventy two, or go to Andrewintodd dot com

1436
01:21:10,439 --> 01:21:14,440
Speaker 1: that is Andrewintodd dot com.

1437
01:21:14,479 --> 01:21:18,400
Speaker 3: As Blake mentioned earlier, it is the six month anniversary

1438
01:21:18,479 --> 01:21:20,560
Speaker 3: of us. I don't call it an anniversary, It's a

1439
01:21:20,680 --> 01:21:25,240
Speaker 3: six month mark of losing Charlie, and the team has

1440
01:21:25,280 --> 01:21:28,280
Speaker 3: a tribute video in honor of the great Charlie Kirk,

1441
01:21:28,320 --> 01:21:31,360
Speaker 3: our friend. We wanted to play it for you. Play

1442
01:21:31,400 --> 01:21:31,800
Speaker 3: cut ten.

1443
01:21:32,680 --> 01:21:35,720
Speaker 1: This is why your faith is the most important thing.

1444
01:21:36,080 --> 01:21:39,960
Speaker 1: You are commanded to go do something productive with your life.

1445
01:21:40,000 --> 01:21:42,479
Speaker 1: You are not commanded to go sit idly by and

1446
01:21:42,600 --> 01:21:46,919
Speaker 1: just receive. You are commanded to go give and to produce,

1447
01:21:47,280 --> 01:21:50,280
Speaker 1: and to risk to then go so into other people.

1448
01:21:50,400 --> 01:21:52,639
Speaker 1: That is a biblical idea that has made the world

1449
01:21:52,720 --> 01:21:57,680
Speaker 1: a profoundly better place. We must put God first in

1450
01:21:57,800 --> 01:22:00,439
Speaker 1: everything that we do. We are nothing here but just

1451
01:22:00,479 --> 01:22:05,120
Speaker 1: for a short instant, short little glimpse. We act not

1452
01:22:05,400 --> 01:22:09,240
Speaker 1: out of outcome, but we act out of obedience. Everybody,

1453
01:22:09,280 --> 01:22:12,240
Speaker 1: this was not earned. You guys were a vessel. We

1454
01:22:12,240 --> 01:22:14,439
Speaker 1: were a vessel. Psalm one, oh seven to one, Oh

1455
01:22:14,520 --> 01:22:16,880
Speaker 1: give thanks to the Lord, for he is good or

1456
01:22:16,920 --> 01:22:19,120
Speaker 1: his steadfast love endures forever.

1457
01:22:19,240 --> 01:22:21,240
Speaker 10: I have to say this without getting emotional, but I'm

1458
01:22:21,360 --> 01:22:22,559
Speaker 10: very proud of my husband.

1459
01:22:22,640 --> 01:22:25,320
Speaker 11: You are so intentional with your faith and you are

1460
01:22:25,400 --> 01:22:28,040
Speaker 11: so intentional with just how you are as a father

1461
01:22:28,120 --> 01:22:28,759
Speaker 11: and a husband.

1462
01:22:28,880 --> 01:22:31,760
Speaker 1: Becoming a father has made me, first of all, understand

1463
01:22:31,840 --> 01:22:35,080
Speaker 1: that what I'm fighting for is beyond even yourself. We

1464
01:22:35,200 --> 01:22:38,880
Speaker 1: do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities

1465
01:22:39,160 --> 01:22:42,080
Speaker 1: and darkness and spirits, because at its core, what we

1466
01:22:42,120 --> 01:22:44,639
Speaker 1: are fighting is a spiritual battle. And if you're here

1467
01:22:44,680 --> 01:22:47,840
Speaker 1: and you don't believe in God, okay, fine, I'll pray

1468
01:22:47,840 --> 01:22:49,880
Speaker 1: for you, and I hope you find Jesus Christ as

1469
01:22:49,880 --> 01:22:51,280
Speaker 1: your Lord and savior because it will.

1470
01:22:51,120 --> 01:22:51,720
Speaker 11: Change your life.

1471
01:22:56,840 --> 01:22:57,919
Speaker 13: How do you want to be remembered.

1472
01:22:59,360 --> 01:23:02,559
Speaker 1: I want to be remembered for courage from my faith.

1473
01:23:03,400 --> 01:23:04,800
Speaker 2: That would be the most important thing.

1474
01:23:04,800 --> 01:23:07,120
Speaker 5: The most important thing is my faith in my life.

1475
01:23:13,000 --> 01:23:14,600
Speaker 2: We miss you, Charlie.

1476
01:23:16,320 --> 01:23:22,320
Speaker 3: Six months doesn't feel real still six months almost exactly. Yeah,

1477
01:23:22,760 --> 01:23:25,120
Speaker 3: lost him on September tenth, and it is March tenth.

1478
01:23:25,400 --> 01:23:27,880
Speaker 2: So here's to you, Charlie, and.

1479
01:23:30,320 --> 01:23:34,080
Speaker 3: We had to play it. This is his show. It

1480
01:23:34,120 --> 01:23:41,960
Speaker 3: will always be his show, So blake any thoughts, you

1481
01:23:42,000 --> 01:23:42,840
Speaker 3: know it's.

1482
01:23:44,439 --> 01:23:47,639
Speaker 5: Eric has said that if Charlie was given the choice

1483
01:23:48,000 --> 01:23:51,280
Speaker 5: to undo what happened and come back, he wouldn't. She

1484
01:23:51,439 --> 01:23:54,519
Speaker 5: thought because of what was unleashed by it. I like

1485
01:23:54,640 --> 01:23:56,679
Speaker 5: to I've gone a couple of times in the last

1486
01:23:57,120 --> 01:24:00,679
Speaker 5: week or so where we have one of the buildings

1487
01:24:00,720 --> 01:24:03,000
Speaker 5: here on the on the campus is just all of

1488
01:24:03,040 --> 01:24:08,000
Speaker 5: the male packages gifts. Yeah, we've received or that people

1489
01:24:08,000 --> 01:24:11,679
Speaker 5: have left outside the campus, which we still encourage people

1490
01:24:11,720 --> 01:24:13,519
Speaker 5: to come. We still see people there. So if you're

1491
01:24:13,600 --> 01:24:17,599
Speaker 5: passing through Phoenix, stop by. We'd love to see people

1492
01:24:17,680 --> 01:24:21,880
Speaker 5: make a visit. Uh But I look at that and

1493
01:24:21,960 --> 01:24:23,920
Speaker 5: you know, we still get the emails as well, you know,

1494
01:24:24,000 --> 01:24:27,439
Speaker 5: people talking about they started going to church because of Charlie,

1495
01:24:27,680 --> 01:24:29,519
Speaker 5: they kept going to church because of Charlie.

1496
01:24:29,520 --> 01:24:29,920
Speaker 2: Some of them.

1497
01:24:30,120 --> 01:24:32,240
Speaker 5: We even get ones where they say, I'm not really

1498
01:24:32,240 --> 01:24:34,280
Speaker 5: sure if I believe God exists, but I'm still going

1499
01:24:34,400 --> 01:24:36,400
Speaker 5: because Charlie said too. And you know, we want to

1500
01:24:36,479 --> 01:24:40,920
Speaker 5: encourage that, you know, leave your heart open. And we've

1501
01:24:40,960 --> 01:24:44,519
Speaker 5: seen so many cases of that, and I think Charlie

1502
01:24:44,520 --> 01:24:46,519
Speaker 5: would even say, like, if you know, if it would

1503
01:24:46,520 --> 01:24:50,479
Speaker 5: help one other person come to Christ, you know, my martyrdom,

1504
01:24:50,479 --> 01:24:51,760
Speaker 5: you know, it would be worth it. And we're not

1505
01:24:51,800 --> 01:24:55,080
Speaker 5: seeing it's not one person, it's it's hundreds thousands, you know,

1506
01:24:55,120 --> 01:24:57,960
Speaker 5: maybe around the world. Yeah, you know, hundreds of millions,

1507
01:24:58,200 --> 01:25:00,080
Speaker 5: because it is a true it truly did have a

1508
01:25:00,200 --> 01:25:01,120
Speaker 5: global impact.

1509
01:25:01,840 --> 01:25:02,160
Speaker 2: Uh.

1510
01:25:02,200 --> 01:25:07,559
Speaker 5: And it's also true that because because of what happened

1511
01:25:07,600 --> 01:25:10,160
Speaker 5: to him, we never have to see we never have

1512
01:25:10,200 --> 01:25:12,200
Speaker 5: to see Charlie lose his fastball. We never have to

1513
01:25:12,200 --> 01:25:16,400
Speaker 5: see Charlie get old, become you know, become tired. He's

1514
01:25:16,479 --> 01:25:20,479
Speaker 5: always as he was. He's I would have loved that brave.

1515
01:25:20,680 --> 01:25:23,880
Speaker 5: He's that brave young hero going out onto the campuses

1516
01:25:23,960 --> 01:25:27,240
Speaker 5: speaking to young people, reaching young people. And we'll always

1517
01:25:27,320 --> 01:25:28,120
Speaker 5: have that example.

1518
01:25:29,000 --> 01:25:34,320
Speaker 3: Even Doctor Ray, I know you're hanging in there. Maybe

1519
01:25:34,640 --> 01:25:38,280
Speaker 3: a little pivot on the six month mark of losing Charlie.

1520
01:25:38,320 --> 01:25:43,000
Speaker 3: You're a historian. What did what did Charlie's contribution and

1521
01:25:43,240 --> 01:25:46,200
Speaker 3: what happened? What did it mean historically? What in the

1522
01:25:46,240 --> 01:25:48,120
Speaker 3: whole scheme of things? What does it mean to you?

1523
01:25:48,880 --> 01:25:58,160
Speaker 14: Well, he started something, and he was sufficiently a force

1524
01:25:59,840 --> 01:26:04,000
Speaker 14: that I don't think it's simply going to stop. I mean, like,

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Speaker 14: you know, you're continuing his show. I was on his

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Speaker 14: show when he was still with us, back in July

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Speaker 14: and August a couple of times, and I was struck

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Speaker 14: by his energy, his sincerity, his open mindedness. He was

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Speaker 14: interested in listening as well as in talking. But the

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Speaker 14: other thing is he was a young man who moved

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Speaker 14: a great many people. And I don't think that's going

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Speaker 14: to stop. And obviously you don't think it's going to stop,

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Speaker 14: or you wouldn't be continuing.

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Speaker 6: The Charlie Kirk Show.

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Speaker 2: Correct.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And he enjoyed his conversations with you, doctor. I

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Speaker 3: know that you bring a wealth. I literally was sitting

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Speaker 3: here the whole time just you provided context to the

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Speaker 3: Middle East that I was not aware of, between the

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Speaker 3: Turks and the Egyptians and the Iranians. And and he

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Speaker 3: loved learning. He loved That's why he loved Hillsdale. You know,

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Speaker 3: he called it the beacon of the North America's greatest

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Speaker 3: university's college. And you guys are continuing that on and

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Speaker 3: we're continuing to work with you guys, and we're continuing

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Speaker 3: to work with doctor arn and we just really appreciate

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Speaker 3: your perspective. I know this was a pivot that I

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Speaker 3: didn't pref I didn't prepare you for, doctor, but you've

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Speaker 3: you've handled it brilliantly. And it's a credit to Hillsdale

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Speaker 3: College that you are part of their faculty, and you

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Speaker 3: guys can all learn from the great professors at Hillsdale.

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Speaker 3: Go to Charlie for Hillsdale's I didn't you know, it's

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Speaker 3: not why we had doctor ray On.

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Speaker 2: We wanted to learn about the history of the region.

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Speaker 3: But check it out because Hillsdale is one of these

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Speaker 3: institutions that makes America so special. It preserves it's like

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Speaker 3: salt that you preserve these great ideas is for another generation.

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Speaker 3: So check it out. Charlie for Hillsdale. Final word to you, Professor.

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Speaker 6: Ray Okay, I'll tell you a story.

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Speaker 14: I spent some years in Turkey eighty four to eighty six,

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Speaker 14: and I went back there in two thousand and two

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Speaker 14: met a group of Turkish journalists, one of Iranian journalists

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Speaker 14: with them, and at that time there were pro American

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Speaker 14: demonstrations at soccer games by just people doing it, chanting

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Speaker 14: in favor of America, and I thought, maybe this is

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Speaker 14: the time the revolution is going to go under And

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Speaker 14: I asked the Turkish the Iranian journalist, and he said no.

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Speaker 14: The people who handle security in Iran were graduate students

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Speaker 14: in Eastern Europe and the communist period. They know how

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Speaker 14: to handle the crowd. And then he added, what they

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Speaker 14: don't know how to handle this their own children. There

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Speaker 14: will be a counter revolution in are, Ronnie said, but

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Speaker 14: it's going to take some time.

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Speaker 6: Mm hmm oh, well, some time.

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Speaker 14: Has passed, but maybe not enough time.

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Speaker 6: We will see in the next few.

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Speaker 3: Weeks, doctor Ray, Professor Ray, thank you so much for

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Speaker 3: your time.

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Speaker 6: Pleasure to be with you again.

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Speaker 2: For more on many of these stories and news you

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Speaker 2: can trust, go to Charliekirk dot com.