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Speaker 1: Everybody, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. Lake. It's a
Speaker 1: good day. It's a good day, December tenth.
Speaker 3: Here we are in studio, lots going on, and by
Speaker 3: the way, some really really great news, Yes, huge news
Speaker 3: for Erica and the team, and really for Charlie. We
Speaker 3: have just got the Wall Street Journal published it this morning.
Speaker 3: Charlie Kirk's newest book is a hit and it is
Speaker 3: out of stock on Amazon.
Speaker 1: Here you go.
Speaker 3: Yep, that's the graphic from the Wall Street Journal. The story,
Speaker 3: and here, of course is the book Stop in the
Speaker 3: Name of God, Why Honoring the Sabbath will Transform your life.
Speaker 3: Erica has been doing an amazing job. She of course
Speaker 3: was on this show yesterday promoting it in Charlie's stead,
Speaker 3: and just couldn't be more proud of her and everything
Speaker 3: she's doing. I mean, she's going on the five. I
Speaker 3: think she doing out Numbered this morning. Hannity Radio calls,
Speaker 3: she's doing she's doing the whole circuit. Obviously, this is
Speaker 3: her first time doing this. Like, you know, people don't
Speaker 3: realize this about Erica. It's not like she's been trained
Speaker 3: like Charlie over twelve years of doing repeat reps exactly.
Speaker 4: She's doing tremendous, yes, absolutely immense, Yeah, beginning to end,
Speaker 4: top to bottom.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so they've been pressed.
Speaker 3: They've they've sold like sixty thousand copies in the first
Speaker 3: day of this book, which is really good, tremendous.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they're doing.
Speaker 4: Realize books don't always sell that much.
Speaker 3: These no forty five books dot com. If you want
Speaker 3: to get your your yeah, if you want to get
Speaker 3: your copy. It's just and I And I said this
Speaker 3: in a tweet yesterday that I pitched Charlie on doing
Speaker 3: all kinds of different politics books. Like we were talking
Speaker 3: about what is his next book going to be? And
Speaker 3: he was just adamant. He's like, no, it's going to
Speaker 3: be about the Sabbath. I've been wanting to write this
Speaker 3: book for a long time.
Speaker 1: I really want to write. I was like, okay, but
Speaker 1: like the Sabbath, you know, And it's just aproposts.
Speaker 3: It's almost like he saved his most important book for
Speaker 3: last and a lot of that.
Speaker 4: Is most timeless one because all the other ones, they're
Speaker 4: a moment in time. College will hopefully be either destroyed
Speaker 4: or reformed. You don't need to call it a scam anymore.
Speaker 4: Right wing revolution that was all about what the next
Speaker 4: GOP admin should do. But this is one you could
Speaker 4: have thirty years from now, fifty years from now, two
Speaker 4: hundred years from now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, one thousand percent.
Speaker 3: I want to play a couple of clips from Erica
Speaker 3: being on The Five yesterday just because it was so
Speaker 3: it was I mean, I don't remember the last time
Speaker 3: I saw kind of like a guest host on The Five,
Speaker 3: especially you know, promoting a book. So thank you to
Speaker 3: The Five and Jesse and Greg and Dana and.
Speaker 1: Even Jessica Taralov. She was very sweet.
Speaker 2: Two nineteen el Jesse and Greg are in a Bible
Speaker 2: study group together?
Speaker 1: Are they really because of Charlie Kirk?
Speaker 5: Okay? That is really cool.
Speaker 4: So every morning, that is really every morning we wake
Speaker 4: up and we read a passage.
Speaker 6: And then we text about it, Okay, and it is
Speaker 6: because of Charlie.
Speaker 5: I love that.
Speaker 3: So what are you saying is Harold, Jesse and Greg?
Speaker 3: So Harold's the liberal and Jesse and Greg are not.
Speaker 3: And they're all in a Bible study because of Charlie.
Speaker 3: So we found that out yesterday, which was which was amazing.
Speaker 3: Here's Erica Kirk telling The Five about how President Trump
Speaker 3: has been there for her in this time two twenty.
Speaker 7: When Donald Trump secured peace in the Middle East. The
Speaker 7: next day he flew back so DC to deliver my
Speaker 7: husband's Metal of Freedom to me. He didn't have to
Speaker 7: do that. So a lot of people, I understand there's
Speaker 7: a lot of policy and everything involved, but also I
Speaker 7: am very proud to have Donald Trump as our president.
Speaker 5: I really am.
Speaker 7: He's a good man.
Speaker 1: He's a good man.
Speaker 3: And you know two three three, put that picture back
Speaker 3: up stopping the name of the tops number one on
Speaker 3: Amazon bestseller list, a book out, like it's sold out
Speaker 3: on Amazon.
Speaker 1: They're going to do print more. Yeah, I've been checking.
Speaker 4: It looks like we only have physical cop This looks
Speaker 4: like that's where books there approaches.
Speaker 3: And I'm really happy to have my my copy. And
Speaker 3: I'm like literally reading a couple chapters every night, and
Speaker 3: I'm telling you this book is I mean, I know,
Speaker 3: it's like people would expect me to say.
Speaker 1: I would probably remain silent if I didn't have anything
Speaker 1: nice to say about it.
Speaker 3: Actually, I would just sort of say, you know, check
Speaker 3: it out, support support Charlie Erica, like it's really freaking
Speaker 3: good man. You know, when God instituted the Sabbath, he
Speaker 3: wove rest into the fabric of creation and on the
Speaker 3: seventh day, God finished his work that he had done,
Speaker 3: and he rested on the seventh day from all his
Speaker 3: work that he had done. Genesis too too. God did
Speaker 3: not rest because he was tired. He rested because he
Speaker 3: was satisfied, and he invites us to do the same.
Speaker 3: There's like all these little like tidbits that these breakthrough
Speaker 3: ideas in this book, and it's just it's just phenomenal. So, uh,
Speaker 3: congratulations to Eric and the team, the team at Winning
Speaker 3: Team Publishing forty five books dot com if you want
Speaker 3: to get your copy, Erica's actually get It was funny because, uh,
Speaker 3: we've been this morning, I've been texting with a bunch
Speaker 3: of people with you know, Eric is going to do
Speaker 3: Glenn Beck's show tomorrow morning, and then so we got
Speaker 3: into a conversation with Glenn's team and then so Glenn's
Speaker 3: actually going to join us at the top of the
Speaker 3: show tomorrow, which will be great, and we can talk
Speaker 3: about that many other things. But there's another big news
Speaker 3: story that was near and dear to Charlie's hall, and
Speaker 3: it's near and dear to Blake's heart.
Speaker 1: So we're going to hit it at hour one.
Speaker 3: We're also going to bring har Meat Dylan from the
Speaker 3: DOJ Civil Rights Department on at the second half of
Speaker 3: this hour to talk about it. But that is, of
Speaker 3: course the rolling back of disparate impact standards within the
Speaker 3: DOJ and within the federal government. Blake, what is disparate
Speaker 3: impact if you had to boil it.
Speaker 4: Down, alrighty, So disparate impact is more people are thankfully
Speaker 4: becoming aware of it. But it's been around for half
Speaker 4: a century at this point, and desperate impact is sort
Speaker 4: of the it's the spearhead for a lot of what
Speaker 4: we'd call the DEI regime, the agenda, the dictatorship of America,
Speaker 4: which is where instead of things coming down to merit
Speaker 4: coming down to measurable ability, where we reduce things to quotas,
Speaker 4: to favoritism, to discrimination based on race or sex, or
Speaker 4: national origin or who knows what. And you know, I
Speaker 4: think this is actually a good opportunity to bring in
Speaker 4: Charlie because he was talking about this in April when
Speaker 4: there was a Trump executive order concerning this. And we're
Speaker 4: going to get to the follow up in a second,
Speaker 4: but this was Charlie summing it up.
Speaker 1: Let's play two thirty six.
Speaker 2: In nineteen seventy one. There was a Supreme Court case
Speaker 2: Greggs v. Duke Power Company. Duke Power was sued because
Speaker 2: for people to get certain jobs at the company, they
Speaker 2: required them to either have a high school diploma or
Speaker 2: pass an aptitude test. Black applicants were less likely to
Speaker 2: have a diploma, and they they didn't do as well
Speaker 2: on the aptitude test. The Supreme Court ruled that Duke's
Speaker 2: job requirements were quote justified, were not justified by business necessity,
Speaker 2: and so they were illegally discriminatory unless the doctrine of
Speaker 2: disparate impact was bored.
Speaker 4: So what he's saying there is the idea was this
Speaker 4: was a neutral test. Is just having a high school
Speaker 4: diploma or taking this aptitude test, no one could really.
Speaker 4: There was no one actually coming in and saying, oh,
Speaker 4: don't hire black people, but they were just less likely
Speaker 4: to do well as well on this test. And the
Speaker 4: court said, well, we don't think this test is close
Speaker 4: enough to what you need employees to do at this company,
Speaker 4: and because it doesn't have an equal outcome between these
Speaker 4: two groups, it's discriminatory. So it's what took our law
Speaker 4: from what most people think of when they think of discrimination,
Speaker 4: where you're deliberately discriminating against people. And they're saying anything
Speaker 4: you do, if it has an unequal outcome, can be
Speaker 4: labeled illegal, can be labeled the illegal discrimination can get
Speaker 4: you sued. And what that's turned into is you essentially
Speaker 4: anything can be illegal because news flash, Andrew, everything has
Speaker 4: unequal outcomes. Everything in the world. No one, Actually, I
Speaker 4: think we have this as well.
Speaker 2: Literally every standard imaginable has created has some sort of
Speaker 2: disparate impact against a group. Nobody on this planet has
Speaker 2: ever designed a test or a standard that men, women, blacks, whites, Asians, Hispanics, Catholic, Jews,
Speaker 2: gaze straits do so equally. Well, the very idea is
Speaker 2: an absurd fantasy. You're going to have different outcomes. But
Speaker 2: what disparate impact does, says the test itself is wrong.
Speaker 2: It is a loophole that you could drive a semitruck through.
Speaker 2: It's a little sliver. You say, oh, disparate impact, Well
Speaker 2: that's the big deal here. No, no, no, no. This
Speaker 2: has been exploited by DEI actors for the last thirty years.
Speaker 1: Thirty last fifty years.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and again, one of the things I want to
Speaker 3: get into is aptitude tests. We used to acquire these
Speaker 3: to get a job in the federal government ye for example.
Speaker 3: And the one of the best examples of this was
Speaker 3: the NYPD. I brought it up before a class of
Speaker 3: chiefs the nineteen thirty nine. Now this had controversy because
Speaker 3: they claimed it was anti Semitic or anti Jewish. But
Speaker 3: here's what's interesting. They had so many applicants. They just
Speaker 3: selected candidates from the top scores on the Civil Service exam.
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Speaker 3: we were talking about aptitude tests, good or bad.
Speaker 1: Apt To tests are great.
Speaker 4: They're one of the fairest things we have in modern life.
Speaker 1: Oh they're racists.
Speaker 4: Oh now, there are a lot of things get called racist
Speaker 4: in America.
Speaker 1: You know, it's funny.
Speaker 3: Charlie loved Thomas Soule's book on disparate Impact. It was
Speaker 3: a discrimination and disparities right and the whole theme of
Speaker 3: the book is that you challenge single explanations like single
Speaker 3: factor explanations, so disparities are not solely due to discrimination, exploitation,
Speaker 3: and genetics. There's multivariate analysis that needs to be done.
Speaker 3: It's complex thinking like you can't just say what's great.
Speaker 4: About aptitude tests is anyone can walk in and do
Speaker 4: well on a test, whereas every other standard people propose
Speaker 4: as alternatives, They're always much more likely to favor people
Speaker 4: who have networks, who have other things they can take
Speaker 4: advantage of. Frankly, it's way better to be a person
Speaker 4: with money with an informal system than just a system
Speaker 4: where whoever scores best does best.
Speaker 3: I recommend everybody check out Thomas Soul's book Discrimination and Disparities.
Speaker 3: It's one of Charlie's favorite books to quote, and in
Speaker 3: it Soul challenges single factor explanations. And what that means
Speaker 3: is there is disparities in racial outcomes. Blacks and Hispanics
Speaker 3: tended not to do as well on certain aptitude tests.
Speaker 3: We can ask questions why that is. So they got
Speaker 3: rid of aptitude tests largely in order to get into
Speaker 3: the federal government, you had to pass you had to
Speaker 3: take a PACE test, which was what is it Stanford.
Speaker 4: Political and political or professional career examinations, an administrative career examine.
Speaker 3: Yes, and so we still have some tests the federal government,
Speaker 3: but widely been removed.
Speaker 4: That's that's the important thing about disparate impact, it doesn't
Speaker 4: actually ban tests. They're still For example, the maybe unless
Speaker 4: they got rid of the State Department has long had
Speaker 4: a test to get in. And for example, but what
Speaker 4: when we say, I said desperate impact makes everything illegal?
Speaker 4: It literally does make everything illegal. And what that means
Speaker 4: is that you have government by vibes. So, for example,
Speaker 4: with disparate impact, a company if they say we're just
Speaker 4: going to give every job applicant an IQ test and
Speaker 4: hire the top scorers, they'll get Historically they would get
Speaker 4: a very questionable look from the federal government. It would
Speaker 4: feel legally risky to do. But if they say you
Speaker 4: need this or that college diploma to be hired by us,
Speaker 4: it's very unlikely that they would be a questioned, even
Speaker 4: if that diploma isn't super directly related to what they're
Speaker 4: hiring for. And both of those things have a disparate impact.
Speaker 4: You know, Whites and Asians are more likely to have
Speaker 4: college diplomas than Black Americans, for example, So why is
Speaker 4: one looked at negatively and the other isn't. It basically
Speaker 4: just comes down to how the bureaucrats feel. It's vibes based,
Speaker 4: and government bureaucrats and lawyers like colleges, they like diplomas,
Speaker 4: they like liberal colleges, dispensing these job granting credentials to
Speaker 4: people that you have to pay a ton of money
Speaker 4: for and they don't like iq tess And so you
Speaker 4: get this ViBe's based government. And then you also get
Speaker 4: that's what also drives that hr ratchet that Charlie would
Speaker 4: talk so much about, which is you avoid getting the
Speaker 4: government after you by doing all these big, loud, expensive
Speaker 4: signals that you're not racist, that you're not sexist, because
Speaker 4: everyone's breaking the law because everything's illegal, so you just
Speaker 4: are trying to say, don't eat me, because they can't
Speaker 4: eat everyone. And this all loops around to why we're
Speaker 4: talking about this today because one of the great things
Speaker 4: going on in this administration, something that's not talked about enough,
Speaker 4: is they have been waging war on this monstrosity. The
Speaker 4: reason we had those Charlie clips is President Trump did
Speaker 4: an executive order to roll back desperate impact last April,
Speaker 4: and just yesterday we had a great announcement from the
Speaker 4: Department of Justice's Civil Rights Division where they're going after
Speaker 4: the traditional disparate impact prioritization in their office. The quote
Speaker 4: they had from their division. The prior disparate impact regulations
Speaker 4: encourage people to file lawsuits challenging racially neutral policies without
Speaker 4: evidence of intentional discrimination. Our rejection of this theory will
Speaker 4: restore true equality under the law by requiring proof of
Speaker 4: actual discrimination rather than just enforcing race or sex based
Speaker 4: quotas or assumptions and the other thing that we had yesterday.
Speaker 4: Because of this, the civil Rights divisions, A bunch of
Speaker 4: employees of the DOJ's Civil Rights decision A Division have
Speaker 4: released an open letter denouncing the direction that the department
Speaker 4: has been headed in. And it turns out about seventy
Speaker 4: five percent of lawyers of career lawyers and the DOJ's
Speaker 4: Civil Rights Division have left because they are outraged at
Speaker 4: the direction the Trump administration is taking it. God bless America.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this this is better than DOJE. This is better,
Speaker 3: you know, like the seventy five percent of a of
Speaker 3: a single of a weaponic bureaucracy.
Speaker 4: The commisar, the woke commissars, as Charlie like to say,
Speaker 4: get them out gets his former DOJ staff criticized leadership
Speaker 4: for abandoning civil rights mission. That's a that's a good thing.
Speaker 3: It's amazing stand up and clap, and we are gonna
Speaker 3: We're gonna give har Meat Dylan her her kudos and
Speaker 3: a and a warm congratulatory welcome onto this show. Because listen,
Speaker 3: you're losing seventy five attorneys that are leaving the DOJ
Speaker 3: Civil Rights for two seventy Yeah, seventy sorry, more than
Speaker 3: two hundred former employees, Yeah, criticize what they call an
Speaker 3: ongoing destruction of the Civil Rights Division. This is the
Speaker 3: This is bigger and more impactful than most people could
Speaker 3: possibly realize because yeah, you know, Charlie said thirty years,
Speaker 3: this has been going off fifty years in our federal government.
Speaker 3: When you see a sliding of standards, when you see
Speaker 3: an abandonment of meritocracy, when you see that, like I
Speaker 3: think there's this prevailing fog over the country where it
Speaker 3: just feels like things don't matter anymore. It's like, oh, well,
Speaker 3: people just get away with crap and nobody gets held accountable.
Speaker 3: This is one of the root causes for that where it's,
Speaker 3: like Charlie used to say, it was like whose line
Speaker 3: is it?
Speaker 1: Anywhere?
Speaker 3: Where the points are made up and the rules don't matter.
Speaker 3: That's what modern society is starting to feel like, why
Speaker 3: does it feel that way. Part of the root cause
Speaker 3: of this is desperate impact. It's and by the way,
Speaker 3: the legal profession getting infected with DII and critical theory
Speaker 3: and all of these things. It floods out into the
Speaker 3: wider culture and the wider society, government, bureaucracy, civil order,
Speaker 3: and things fall apart. Over time, things grade, and so
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Speaker 1: All right, Welcome to the show.
Speaker 3: Harmy Dylan, Assistant Attorney General for the Civil Rights Division. Harmy,
Speaker 3: Welcome back to the Charlie Kirkshaw. I think this is
Speaker 3: the first time we've had you back, if I'm not
Speaker 3: mistaken in this brave new world that we're living in,
Speaker 3: so welcome.
Speaker 1: We're honored to have you.
Speaker 6: Thanks for having me. It's always an honor to be
Speaker 6: on this show.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely.
Speaker 3: I told the audience harmat that we were going to
Speaker 3: give you a very warm welcome because you have you
Speaker 3: have done what I think even Doge was not able
Speaker 3: to do, and you are just I'll let you describe
Speaker 3: it the way you want to, because I know these
Speaker 3: things can be sensitive in the actual official halls of power.
Speaker 3: But you're cleaning house at the DOJ's Civil Rights Division.
Speaker 3: There's a report this morning. We celebrate these changes and
Speaker 3: also there's news on disparate impact. The floor is yours,
Speaker 3: harmy Well, thank you.
Speaker 5: So much, Andrew.
Speaker 6: And so yes, I'm in the news this week because
Speaker 6: there are hundreds of disgruntled former Civil Rights Division lawyers
Speaker 6: who voluntarily quit. I didn't fire them after I told
Speaker 6: them that their job was going to be to protect
Speaker 6: the civil rights of all Americans, not just the chosen
Speaker 6: few and their pet projects that they had been pursuing
Speaker 6: for decades here in the Civil Rights Division.
Speaker 5: Two hundred of them or so immediately.
Speaker 6: Quit and took a five month payout, so we're one
Speaker 6: hundred thousand dollars worth of severance pay and then over
Speaker 6: the last few months, another close to one hundred have quit.
Speaker 6: And yet you know, they're writing and the press, Reuters
Speaker 6: covered it, and they say that I'm trashing the DOJ.
Speaker 5: I've changed its mission.
Speaker 6: I'm making them making attorneys do stuff they don't want
Speaker 6: to do, and it's against the storied, historic vision of
Speaker 6: the DOJ. But I completely disagree. I'm really proud of
Speaker 6: the work that we're doing.
Speaker 5: And obviously it seems obvious to me.
Speaker 6: That the United States Department of Justice should be justice
Speaker 6: for all Americans, not just some Americans or some winners
Speaker 6: of a victim of deepstakes. And I think that actually
Speaker 6: is very popular with Americans. And we're continuing to do
Speaker 6: the core focus of our work. We're protecting people with
Speaker 6: the disabilities, We're even protecting prisoners. We're protecting the rights
Speaker 6: of students in schools, employees in the workplace, contractors, people
Speaker 6: who are discriminated against hate crimes, anti semitism, actually all
Speaker 6: the same stuff that we did before. We're doing it,
Speaker 6: but we're just doing it for everybody, not just for some.
Speaker 5: And we're going to keep doing it that way.
Speaker 6: So if you don't like it, too bad, this is
Speaker 6: how it's going to be for the balance of this
Speaker 6: administration and hopefully beyond, because shouldn't the DOJ be for
Speaker 6: all Americans. So I'm really proud of that, and this
Speaker 6: criticism just shows that we're over the target.
Speaker 5: Andrew, it's amazing, and so it's amazing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Harmy, Like, trust me, we are this news. We
Speaker 3: literally like standing up and clapping before when we saw it.
Speaker 3: I'm telling you so again, just to reiterate, about seventy
Speaker 3: five percent of attorneys left the DOJ Civil Rights Division
Speaker 3: and claim amid claims of coordinated effort to drive them out. No,
Speaker 3: they quit on their own accord. You did not fire them,
Speaker 3: and they claim that you're bandoning the civil rights mission
Speaker 3: of the DOJ.
Speaker 1: I think this is great.
Speaker 3: Is it safe to say, harmeet that the DOJ's Civil
Speaker 3: Rights Division is now hiring.
Speaker 1: There is some spots that opened up.
Speaker 6: Okay, so thank you for mentioning that. I was itching
Speaker 6: to say that. And so to be clear, we have
Speaker 6: a huge agenda. So it isn't just sort of there's
Speaker 6: no goal to shrink the Civil Rights Division. We actually
Speaker 6: have a huge affirmative agenda. I'm suing fourteen states right now,
Speaker 6: and they're going to be more on that list.
Speaker 5: By the end of the week. A lot of exciting litigation.
Speaker 6: We just sued Minneapolis for discriminating against teachers who are
Speaker 6: not minorities, and on and on and on and so
Speaker 6: we are hiring, And so lawyers with at least eighteen
Speaker 6: months experience who are interested in serving a tour of
Speaker 6: duty to help their country can apply at USA jobs
Speaker 6: dot gov and look for Civil Rights Division.
Speaker 5: We are hiring as.
Speaker 6: Fast as we can qualified candidates who are willing to
Speaker 6: do the work. I just articulated and force all of
Speaker 6: our federal civil rights statutes with a lens of all
Speaker 6: Americans and this administration's priorities.
Speaker 1: What's that U are elegant, Harmy? I want to put
Speaker 1: it up.
Speaker 5: On USA jobs dot.
Speaker 1: Gov, USA jobs dot gov.
Speaker 3: If you want to go work with Harmeat Dylan and
Speaker 3: you are an attorney that wants to defend the civil
Speaker 3: rights of all Americans. Novel idea, novel idea. I know,
Speaker 3: you know it's funny about this whole thing. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 3: it's crazy. Go to USA jobs dot gov and I'll
Speaker 3: have the team put it up on that lower banner
Speaker 3: there so everybody can write it down.
Speaker 1: You know what's crazy about this?
Speaker 3: You know, when they started this stuff back in the sixties,
Speaker 3: right disparate impact, which we're going to talk about next.
Speaker 3: You know, I get it, okay, it was like, let's
Speaker 3: say it was eighty three percent white country. Now we're
Speaker 3: basically fifty percent.
Speaker 1: We're on track to.
Speaker 3: You know, I think the last census had whites at
Speaker 3: what fifty six to fifty seven percent of the population.
Speaker 3: You give that another ten years, it's going to be uh,
Speaker 3: probably under fifty percent, maybe right around fifty percent. I mean,
Speaker 3: that's what we're kind of like losing every ten years
Speaker 3: at a ten year clip. When I was born, I
Speaker 3: think we were around eighty percent white still. But as
Speaker 3: this happens, you're going to see I don't know, some
Speaker 3: of this old way of thinking about how white equals
Speaker 3: bad oppressive majority, Like it's it's got to necessarily we've
Speaker 3: got to rethink the way this is happening, because if
Speaker 3: you're just going to say that another one of the
Speaker 3: minorities in this country, like I mean, it might be
Speaker 3: minority majority, but like still, it's not the same dynamics
Speaker 3: as it was in the past. And we have to
Speaker 3: make sure everybody is getting protected. And one of the
Speaker 3: ways that you do that, sorry, if you want to
Speaker 3: chime in their harmony, feel free.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so let me talk about that. I mean, like,
Speaker 6: let's be very frank here. We have a history of
Speaker 6: discrimination in our country. There were slaves, they were not white,
Speaker 6: and they were then kept down by mainly southern but
Speaker 6: not exclusively Southern states. And so the Civil Rights Act
Speaker 6: of nineteen sixty four included a very important law that
Speaker 6: I've personally used for most of my career, Title seven,
Speaker 6: which protects people from discrimination in employment, and then In
Speaker 6: nineteen sixty eight, the Civil Rights Act added this provision
Speaker 6: that we're going to talk about Title six, and that
Speaker 6: deals with all the folks who have contracts with the government,
Speaker 6: government contractors, and anybody who does business with the governmentor
Speaker 6: receives money from the government, including all American universities except
Speaker 6: for Hillsdale pretty much, and all.
Speaker 5: School districts and so forth.
Speaker 6: It's a pretty vast coverage of this statute, and the
Speaker 6: DOJ provides.
Speaker 5: Guidance on it.
Speaker 6: And so I don't want to bore people with too
Speaker 6: much legal ease, but I think this is a really
Speaker 6: important law and important development.
Speaker 5: And Supreme Court in nineteen seventy one.
Speaker 6: Issued a case called Duke Power versus Griggs, and this
Speaker 6: was about a janitor who allegedly was impacted negatively by
Speaker 6: some policies and hiring at Duke Power. And that started
Speaker 6: this concept of disparate impact. So, in other words, you
Speaker 6: no longer necessarily had to prove in your discrimination case,
Speaker 6: whatever the context was, that you were actually being the
Speaker 6: victim of intentional discrimination.
Speaker 5: You could simply prove that there's a.
Speaker 6: Hiring process or a policy, or there's certain you know,
Speaker 6: tests that are required.
Speaker 4: And I because we were We were going back and
Speaker 4: forth on that at the top of the show, and
Speaker 4: the line we were discussing, which I'm a big fan of,
Speaker 4: is disparate impact. Seems to just it literally makes everything
Speaker 4: illegal because nothing is actually equal except I guess true
Speaker 4: random chance, right.
Speaker 6: It really shifts the burden to get away from the
Speaker 6: plaintiff and to the employer to defend themselves. And when
Speaker 6: you use statistics, as you know Mark Twain famously said
Speaker 6: about statistics, lives and damn statistics.
Speaker 5: You know, you can chop and slice and dicee them
Speaker 5: and prove anything.
Speaker 6: And I mean we have statisticians here in the Civil
Speaker 6: Rights Division who you can give them a premise.
Speaker 5: They'll be able to come up with some formula to
Speaker 5: prove it. That's not how we should be running our
Speaker 5: businesses or our world.
Speaker 6: And so as to Title six, when the United States
Speaker 6: gives federal funds, whether it's in a contract basis or grants,
Speaker 6: we have now issued a guidance that says that this
Speaker 6: fifty years of discrimination against frankly law abiding practices and
Speaker 6: businesses and recipients is over.
Speaker 5: It is harming a lot of people. It is wrong,
Speaker 5: and you.
Speaker 6: Should go back to having to prove intentional discrimination. By
Speaker 6: the way, there may be statistical cases to be brought
Speaker 6: there that so we're not banning the use of statistics.
Speaker 6: What we're saying is we're not going to let people
Speaker 6: use statistics.
Speaker 5: To assume a default of discrimination.
Speaker 6: And people are going to have to prove their cases,
Speaker 6: and that includes the government.
Speaker 5: Sometimes that includes me.
Speaker 6: If I have to bring a case against a school
Speaker 6: district or against a university, I have to use my
Speaker 6: evidence and prove the case, not just to have a
Speaker 6: default assumption of discrimination. Because that has hurt so many
Speaker 6: people in our country. It is eroded merit based hiring.
Speaker 6: It has put companies on the defensive. It has encouraged
Speaker 6: and now institutionalized quotas from every institution, including the boardrooms
Speaker 6: of America's largest corporations, because they're all government contractors. And
Speaker 6: so this is so damaging. And if we can just
Speaker 6: reverse that back to an assumption that Americans.
Speaker 5: Are good generally speaking, we follow the law.
Speaker 6: If something bad happened to you prove it with intentional
Speaker 6: discrimination evidence. I think that is really a great development
Speaker 6: for all Americans.
Speaker 3: Politico's framing of this is hilarious. DJ Rolls back anti
Speaker 3: discrimination rules. Trump officials say the requirement to consider racial
Speaker 3: impacts was itself a form of discrimination. Says the Justice Department.
Speaker 3: On Tuesday moved to end long standing civil rights policies
Speaker 3: that prohibit local governments and organization that receive federal money
Speaker 3: from maintaining policies that disproportionately harm.
Speaker 1: People of color. Why are you hurting people?
Speaker 3: Repealing the government's fifty year old disparate impact standard will
Speaker 3: make it harder to challenge potential bias in housing, criminal law,
Speaker 3: and employment.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's basically frames.
Speaker 3: It is, as you're ripping away this sacred shroud from
Speaker 3: the protection for disadvantaged people.
Speaker 1: Harmy.
Speaker 6: I'm clutching my imaginary pearls here, Andrew. And the fact
Speaker 6: is that that's all fake news.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 5: I have been a.
Speaker 6: Lawyer for over thirty years, and the last twenty years
Speaker 6: of it has been as a plane of slawyer proving
Speaker 6: discrimination cases. You can absolutely do it without this unnecessary crutch,
Speaker 6: and we will continue to pursue and take action against
Speaker 6: discrimination here at the DOJ.
Speaker 5: I do it every day.
Speaker 6: Just follow a lawsuit today, and we'll be filing some
Speaker 6: more later this week. And we're just leveling the playing
Speaker 6: field and returning it back and to be I want
Speaker 6: to conclude by saying, when Congress passed the law Title six,
Speaker 6: nowhere in that law doesn't say disparate impact. That's not
Speaker 6: Congress's intent. It was made up by a court and
Speaker 6: we're getting rid of it here at the DOJ.
Speaker 1: Well, God bless you. Harmony K.
Speaker 3: Dillon, Assistant an General at Civil Rights Division of the DOJ.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much for all your great work. You
Speaker 3: are crushing it and we are so proud to have
Speaker 3: you on this show.
Speaker 1: Go get a job.
Speaker 3: If you're a lawyer out there, go work with harme
Speaker 3: meet and help make the country a better place. God
Speaker 3: bless you. Yeah, USA Jobs dot Gov.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Harmey.
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Speaker 3: I just want to remind you Charlie's last books most
Speaker 3: timeless book stop in the name of God. Why honoring
Speaker 3: the Sabbath will transform you? Lev I don't get anything
Speaker 3: out of this except for the satisfaction of knowing that
Speaker 3: the good people out there across this country, really across
Speaker 3: the world. I bet are enjoying Charlie's book. It was
Speaker 3: a labor of absolute love for Charlie to do this book.
Speaker 3: Chapter seven, The Sabbath Improves Your Sleep. Charlie was passionate
Speaker 3: about sleep. I want to share a little seak with you.
Speaker 3: I hesitate to call it a superpower because that sounds grandiose,
Speaker 3: but it's true. It's incredibly powerful and available each and
Speaker 3: every one of us. In our hyper hustle culture, we
Speaker 3: venerate the sleepless. I began noticing this in high school,
Speaker 3: where the best students seemed to operate on little sleeps.
Speaker 3: Caffeinating themselves through the day became a badge and honor
Speaker 3: to say they pulled an all that nier.
Speaker 1: That didn't change as I got older.
Speaker 3: Sleep is so good, and he says, Charlie used to
Speaker 3: proudly sleep nine to ten hours a night.
Speaker 1: He found a way to do it. I don't know
Speaker 1: how he did that.
Speaker 3: It decreases your attention span and parish judgement, slow reaction time,
Speaker 3: emotion volatility, higher cortisol levels.
Speaker 1: Charlie didn't want any of that, so he slept a lot.
Speaker 1: Taking a sabbath will help you do that, all right, Blake.
Speaker 3: President Trump was in Pennsylvania in a Trump rally last year.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he loves to have those rallies. Just have a
Speaker 4: rally for now and then it recharges energize.
Speaker 3: I think there's a little more to it. But yeah,
Speaker 3: we'll talk about that. But I think it was uh,
Speaker 3: I think it's fat. We're gonna have Rich Barris on
Speaker 3: and so we can talk about the polling. Saw some
Speaker 3: disturbing results out of Miami. They have a Democrat mayor
Speaker 3: now first time in thirty years in Miami, which is
Speaker 3: not a good sign. We've struggled with some of these
Speaker 3: special elections things are you know, let's just in.
Speaker 4: The end, we are this is it comes down to
Speaker 4: who is winning elections and in control of things that
Speaker 4: the only way you can get what we just talked
Speaker 4: about with disparate impact is by controlling the Civil Rights Office.
Speaker 4: The only way to do that is by winning elections.
Speaker 4: Same thing throughout the country. And so it's unfortunate what
Speaker 4: happened in Miami. But yeah, so President Trump, he was
Speaker 4: in Pennsylvania holding a rally, and I want to open
Speaker 4: with It's not as fiery as the others, but I
Speaker 4: like it because I think it's him taking show advice.
Speaker 1: We get shows. The feedback loop is alive. So let's
Speaker 1: play to twenty seven.
Speaker 9: And I have no higher priority than making America affordable again.
Speaker 9: That's what we're going to do. And again, they cause
Speaker 9: the high prices and we're bringing them down. It's a
Speaker 9: simple message. If I had one message tonight, you know
Speaker 9: this is being covered. I go all over the world.
Speaker 9: This is crazy because I have made this speech in
Speaker 9: a little while. You know, when you win, When you win,
Speaker 9: you say I can now rest. So Susie Trump, do
Speaker 9: you know Susie Trump sometimes referred to as Susie while
Speaker 9: Susie Trump.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So I liked that because we've gotten emails about this.
Speaker 4: There was that clip that was taken out of context
Speaker 4: where he says affordability is a hoax, and people thought, oh,
Speaker 4: he doesn't care.
Speaker 1: No what it was.
Speaker 4: He was saying, I am fixing a problem created by
Speaker 4: the Biden administration and going to bring prices down. That's
Speaker 4: that's all the messaging needs to be. And he says
Speaker 4: It's pretty simple, he says, it's very simple.
Speaker 3: They messed it up. We're fixing it. Yeah, real wages
Speaker 3: are going up. The price of gas nationally, the average
Speaker 3: is below three dollars, first time since before Joe Biden
Speaker 3: took office. And so I mean there are good signs.
Speaker 3: I mean, the price of Thanksgiving meal was down twenty
Speaker 3: five percent according to the administration. I did not personally
Speaker 3: check on that. I'm sure mine was actually up because
Speaker 3: we had more people around this year. But the point
Speaker 3: is the present Trump's feedback loop is alive, and well,
Speaker 3: there's been some consternation. I mean, for those who are
Speaker 3: not aware, they're little rumors and rumblings behind the scenes
Speaker 3: that you know, President Trump isn't on Twitter.
Speaker 1: He's not getting that.
Speaker 3: Those rallies are kind of work as a poll test
Speaker 3: for him, kind of a focus group, if you will.
Speaker 3: He says certain things, pays attention to what gets the
Speaker 3: biggest applause lines, and then he kind of like dials
Speaker 3: in his messaging that way. So if you're just dealing
Speaker 3: with issues of state all the time and you're kind
Speaker 3: of confined into your White House bubble, you're going to
Speaker 3: miss some of those feedback loops. So how do you
Speaker 3: make sure that President Trump is hearing from the base,
Speaker 3: especially in the wake of Charlie being gone. Charlie was
Speaker 3: a great conduit for that kind of stuff. Well, this
Speaker 3: is this is proof that the message is getting through,
Speaker 3: that people are hearing.
Speaker 1: Hey.
Speaker 3: Affordability, affordability, affordability, domestic, domestic, domestics. So this is a
Speaker 3: whole affordability tour in Pennsylvania. I like it because I
Speaker 3: when as soon as President Trump during Thanksgiving announced he
Speaker 3: was doing a Third World immigration moratorium.
Speaker 1: Things.
Speaker 3: You know, I made a prediction that this was going
Speaker 3: to be one of his most popular policy planks of
Speaker 3: all time, and he's hitting this hard to twenty one.
Speaker 9: If you don't share our values, contribute to our economy
Speaker 9: and assimilate into our society, that we don't want you
Speaker 9: in our country. We don't want you. I mean elon
Speaker 9: Omar and the people from Somalia. They hate our country
Speaker 9: and they think with stupid people, which actually when they
Speaker 9: allow that to happen, they are that's headed by Governor Walltz,
Speaker 9: one of the dumber people around. Nobody's given but think
Speaker 9: of it, He's given not like peanuts, billions. These are
Speaker 9: people that don't work in their own country, their own
Speaker 9: countries are fans, they have no money, and yet they
Speaker 9: come into our country and steal tens of billions of dollars.
Speaker 9: How stupid are we to allow that to happen.
Speaker 3: Just hammer away, hammer away at this, And I actually,
Speaker 3: I'm it.
Speaker 4: Really is the perfect thing because the Left has boxed
Speaker 4: itself in ideologically where they're they're so radicalized on immigration
Speaker 4: they can never admit that any group of immigrants is
Speaker 4: just not worth bringing into America. And this is it's
Speaker 4: like the perfect specimen in terms of they cost a
Speaker 4: lot of money, so they're not contributing that much economically.
Speaker 4: They're very culturally hostile, they're very clannish, they're not assimilating well.
Speaker 4: And they have this avatar who's so unappealing ilhan Omar.
Speaker 3: Gosh, she's awful. She married her brother to get in here.
Speaker 3: I have to the third world country real quick.
Speaker 1: This is funny. I hope they bleeped it. Ride the
Speaker 1: dump button to twenty four.
Speaker 9: I've also announced a permanent pause on third world migration,
Speaker 9: including from hell holes like Afghanistan, Haiti, Somaya, and many
Speaker 9: other countries. I didn't say, oh you.
Speaker 1: Did that's a good moment.
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